Comments on: Haggard Confesses: ‘I Am a Deciever and a Liar’ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:15:46 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Think Progress » Dobson: I Want To Cure Ted Haggard of Being Gay But Don’t Have Time, It ‘Could Take Four or Five Years’ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/comment-page-7/#comment-1174471 Think Progress » Dobson: I Want To Cure Ted Haggard of Being Gay But Don’t Have Time, It ‘Could Take Four or Five Years’ Thu, 23 Nov 2006 21:07:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/#comment-1174471 [...] Ted Haggard was one of the most prominent evangelical leaders in the nation until he admitted to having a sexual relationship with a male prostitute and buying meth. [...] [...] Ted Haggard was one of the most prominent evangelical leaders in the nation until he admitted to having a sexual relationship with a male prostitute and buying meth. [...]

]]> By: Nobody http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/comment-page-7/#comment-1084581 Nobody Tue, 07 Nov 2006 03:55:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/#comment-1084581 How many more? Being gay isn't the issue, its painting gays as evil. How did Haggart stand in front of all those people and preach hate in the name of god. Which was ultimately directed at himself. Dennis Hasert and Tom Delay should release their demons as well. They are what they hate. There is a GOP closet list... How many more? Being gay isn’t the issue, its painting gays as evil. How did Haggart stand in front of all those people and preach hate in the name of god. Which was ultimately directed at himself. Dennis Hasert and Tom Delay should release their demons as well. They are what they hate.

There is a GOP closet list…

]]> By: lestatdelc http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/comment-page-7/#comment-1083056 lestatdelc Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:03:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/#comment-1083056 <blockquote>Theres no hate in their agenda. Comment by josh — November 5, 2006 @ 2:19 pm</blockquote> Sell your sh*t to someone else.

Theres no hate in their agenda.
Comment by josh — November 5, 2006 @ 2:19 pm

Sell your sh*t to someone else.

]]> By: Patrick http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/comment-page-7/#comment-1082803 Patrick Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:07:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/#comment-1082803 He doesn't have a lifelong problem, he just likes men. He doesn’t have a lifelong problem, he just likes men.

]]> By: gorn http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/comment-page-7/#comment-1082495 gorn Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:03:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/#comment-1082495 Mujaahid Give it a rest, ok? This isn't a religious proselytizing blog. If you find peace with Islam, that's great. For me, it's a heap of superstitious lies and self-deception, mixed with some truth, wisdom, and history, wrapped in myth. In other words, it's just as flawed as Christianity and any other man-made religion. But, to each his own. Mujaahid

Give it a rest, ok?

This isn’t a religious proselytizing blog. If you find peace with Islam, that’s great. For me, it’s a heap of superstitious lies and self-deception, mixed with some truth, wisdom, and history, wrapped in myth. In other words, it’s just as flawed as Christianity and any other man-made religion. But, to each his own.

]]> By: Bluedahlia http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/comment-page-7/#comment-1082177 Bluedahlia Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:02:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/#comment-1082177 Oh and Zooey, Idaho isn't so bad now, we actually have an openly gay member who was elected to our legislature! Gasp! I blame this blueness on the influx of Californians. (cheap housing) ;-) Oh and Zooey,
Idaho isn’t so bad now, we actually have an openly gay member who was elected to our legislature! Gasp! I blame this blueness on the influx of Californians. (cheap housing) ;-)

]]> By: Karim http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/comment-page-7/#comment-1081979 Karim Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:52:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/#comment-1081979 Why do we even care? I mean he is such a hypocrite that it sickens me to no end. Why do we even care? I mean he is such a hypocrite that it sickens me to no end.

]]> By: Mujaahid http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/comment-page-7/#comment-1081976 Mujaahid Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:51:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/#comment-1081976 Bible Led Me to Islam . Abdul Malik LeBlanc tells how he discovered Islam within the pages of Bible . Taken from International Edition Voice of Islam November 1998, Page 25 http://www.islamawareness.net/Converts/blmti.html Bible Led Me to Islam .

Abdul Malik LeBlanc tells how he discovered Islam within the pages of Bible .
Taken from International Edition Voice of Islam November 1998, Page 25

http://www.islamawareness.net/Converts/blmti.html

]]> By: Mujaahid http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/comment-page-7/#comment-1081967 Mujaahid Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:47:39 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/#comment-1081967 All christians preachers FOLLOW the TEACHING of DEVIL PUALNOT JESUS(peace and blessing of be up him) : " But if the truth of God through my lie abounded unto his glory, why am I also still judged as a sinner? " ROMANS 3:7 All christians preachers FOLLOW the TEACHING of DEVIL PUALNOT JESUS(peace and blessing of be up him) :

” But if the truth of God through my lie abounded unto his glory, why am I also still judged as a sinner? ” ROMANS 3:7

]]> By: Mujaahid http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/comment-page-7/#comment-1081951 Mujaahid Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:40:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/#comment-1081951 http://thetruereligion.org/modules/xfsection/index.php?category=1 Former Christian Priests and Missionaries who have Embraced Islam http://www.jewsforallah.org/ "And there are, certainly, among the People of the Book (Jews and Christians), those who believe in Allah, and that which has been revealed to you and in that which has been revealed to them, humbling themselves before Allah: They will not sell the Revelations of Allah for a miserable gain! For them is a reward with their Lord, and Allah is swift in account." -- ( Holy Quran 3:199 ) http://thetruereligion.org/modules/xfsection/index.php?category=1 Former Christian Priests and Missionaries who have Embraced Islam

http://www.jewsforallah.org/

“And there are, certainly, among the People of the Book (Jews and Christians), those who believe in Allah, and that which has been revealed to you and in that which has been revealed to them, humbling themselves before Allah: They will not sell the Revelations of Allah for a miserable gain! For them is a reward with their Lord, and Allah is swift in account.” — ( Holy Quran 3:199 )

]]> By: Mujaahid http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/comment-page-7/#comment-1081941 Mujaahid Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:36:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/#comment-1081941 Ted Haggar . forgate people , fOllow your God your god is more mercifull that Human being . Read Quran Return to your natural status. revert to Islam. may Allah(swt) guides all human to his right way . "Sense of justice is one of the most wonderful ideals of Islam, because as I read in the Qur'an I find those dynamic principles of life, not mystic but practical ethics for the daily conduct of life suited to the whole world." --Lectures on "The Ideals of Islam;" see SPEECHES AND WRITINGS OF SAROJINI NAIDU, Madras, 1918, p. 167. "The doctrine of brotherhood of Islam extends to all human beings, no matter what color, race or creed. Islam is the only religion which has been able to realize this doctrine in ractice. Muslims wherever on the world they are will recognize each other as brothers." Mr. R. L. Mellema, Holland, Anthropologist, Writer and Scholar. Ted Haggar . forgate people , fOllow your God your god is more mercifull that Human being . Read Quran Return to your natural status. revert to Islam. may Allah(swt) guides all human to his right way .
“Sense of justice is one of the most wonderful ideals of Islam, because as I read in the Qur’an I find those dynamic principles of life, not mystic but practical ethics for the daily conduct of life suited to the whole world.” –Lectures on “The Ideals of Islam;” see SPEECHES AND WRITINGS OF SAROJINI NAIDU, Madras, 1918, p. 167.

“The doctrine of brotherhood of Islam extends to all human beings, no matter what color, race or creed. Islam is the only religion which has been able to realize this doctrine in ractice. Muslims wherever on the world they are will recognize each other as brothers.” Mr. R. L. Mellema, Holland, Anthropologist, Writer and Scholar.

]]> By: Mujaahid http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/comment-page-7/#comment-1081934 Mujaahid Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:32:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/#comment-1081934 Professor Keith Moore, one of the world’s prominent scientists of anatomy and embryology. University of Toronto, Canada "It has been a great pleasure for me to help clarify statements in the Qur’aan about human development. It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from Allah, or Allah, because almost all of this knowledge was not discovered until many centuries later. This proves to me that Muhammad must have been a messenger of Allah." http://www.islamherald.com/asp/explore/fastest/news_excerpts.asp Professor Keith Moore, one of the world’s prominent scientists of anatomy and embryology. University of Toronto, Canada “It has been a great pleasure for me to help clarify statements in the Qur’aan about human development. It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from Allah, or Allah, because almost all of this knowledge was not discovered until many centuries later. This proves to me that Muhammad must have been a messenger of Allah.”

http://www.islamherald.com/asp/explore/fastest/news_excerpts.asp

]]> By: Mujaahid http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/comment-page-7/#comment-1081926 Mujaahid Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:29:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/#comment-1081926 A retired priest committed suicide by setting himself on fire in a German monastery in protest at the spread of Islam and the Protestant Church’s inability to contain it. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2434625.html A retired priest committed suicide by setting himself on fire in a German monastery in protest at the spread of Islam and the Protestant Church’s inability to contain it. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2434625.html

]]> By: Mujaahid http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/comment-page-7/#comment-1081925 Mujaahid Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:28:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/#comment-1081925 Is bible the book of mercy and peace ????????????? http://islamplanet.jeeran.com/mercy%20and%20peace.html "The conversion of Paul was no conversion at all: it was Paul who converted the religion that has raised one man above sin and death into a religion that delivered millions of men so completely into their dominion that their own common nature became a horror to them, and the religious life became a denial of life." - George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950) Is bible the book of mercy and peace ????????????? http://islamplanet.jeeran.com/mercy%20and%20peace.html

“The conversion of Paul was no conversion at all: it was Paul who converted the religion that has raised one man above sin and death into a religion that delivered millions of men so completely into their dominion that their own common nature became a horror to them, and the religious life became a denial of life.” – George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)

]]> By: Pre-emptive Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/comment-page-7/#comment-1081901 Pre-emptive Jesus Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:12:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/#comment-1081901 Why does god hate amputees? He's never given them a miracle of regeneration no matter how many people have prayed! He's cursed them from day one! God hates amputees! Why does god hate amputees? He’s never given them a miracle of regeneration no matter how many people have prayed! He’s cursed them from day one! God hates amputees!

]]> By: Religious Institute http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/comment-page-7/#comment-1081831 Religious Institute Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:45:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/#comment-1081831 Rev. Debra Haffner (http://debrahaffner.blogspot.com) writes this morning, "Ted Haggard dramatically illustrates how soul damaging the denial of the blessing of sexual difference is. How different his life would have been had he accepted his own sexual attractions and made decisions about his sexuality that were life affirming rather than so now ultimately destructive to himself and his family." Rev. Debra Haffner (http://debrahaffner.blogspot.com) writes this morning, “Ted Haggard dramatically illustrates how soul damaging the denial of the blessing of sexual difference is. How different his life would have been had he accepted his own sexual attractions and made decisions about his sexuality that were life affirming rather than so now ultimately destructive to himself and his family.”

]]> By: aguafiero http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/comment-page-7/#comment-1081669 aguafiero Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:50:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/#comment-1081669 Now maybe someone will change those billboards on I-25 near Colorado Springs to read: <em><strong>Focus on the Fanny Please Exit 1 Mile</strong></em> Now maybe someone will change those billboards on I-25 near Colorado Springs to read:
Focus on the Fanny Please
Exit 1 Mile

]]> By: RantingTommy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/comment-page-7/#comment-1081638 RantingTommy Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:28:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/#comment-1081638 Don't you think calling a preacher "a deceiver and a liar" is a bit redundant? Don’t you think calling a preacher “a deceiver and a liar” is a bit redundant?

]]> By: Swordsbane http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/comment-page-7/#comment-1081589 Swordsbane Mon, 06 Nov 2006 12:47:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/#comment-1081589 There is no way I'm going to accept such a half-assed "Oh poor me I couldn't help myself" excuse for an apology. He's gay. He's got nothing to apologize there. He couldn't help himself? What? Couldn't help it that he had sex with a man, or couldn't help that he lied about it? Couldn't help that he's a meth-head? Maybe. Couldn't help that he lied about it? BS. He's the American equivalent to a bishop in the Vatican, and he want's us to believe that this is a little "problem" No... A problem is cheating on your taxes or embezzling a little money. A problem is having a rocky marriage. This guy is a fraud. He is nothing like what he preaches. If his conscience was bothering him, he would have stepped down as this high, mighty evangalist and given it up a long time ago. If this was a problem he was fighting all his adult life, he would have gotten help, or he would have long since gotten past the 'ashamed' part and reconciled himself with what he was. He was what he himself calls evil. How can he take on the job of an evangelist for such a large congregation... heck for any congregation, and be anything other than a fraud in his peoples eyes and the eyes of his God, and his own eyes for that matter? I don't think he HAS a struggle. I don't think he is sorry (except maybe that he got caught). I don't think he had any problems with the life-style he was leading and I don't think he felt any shame over it or the lies he created to let him keep his apparently well paying "job" Calling of the Lord my left butt cheek. If he was a true man of god, he would not be in so high a position while he had that sort of 'problem' To do otherwise was to violate everything he claims to believe in, so he lied not only about being gay and being a drug addict, but he lied about being a believer. I do not accept this as an apology. I wouldn't if I was a member of his church and I don't as a citizen of the country he lied to. There is no way I’m going to accept such a half-assed “Oh poor me I couldn’t help myself” excuse for an apology. He’s gay. He’s got nothing to apologize there. He couldn’t help himself? What? Couldn’t help it that he had sex with a man, or couldn’t help that he lied about it? Couldn’t help that he’s a meth-head? Maybe. Couldn’t help that he lied about it? BS. He’s the American equivalent to a bishop in the Vatican, and he want’s us to believe that this is a little “problem”

No… A problem is cheating on your taxes or embezzling a little money. A problem is having a rocky marriage. This guy is a fraud. He is nothing like what he preaches. If his conscience was bothering him, he would have stepped down as this high, mighty evangalist and given it up a long time ago. If this was a problem he was fighting all his adult life, he would have gotten help, or he would have long since gotten past the ‘ashamed’ part and reconciled himself with what he was. He was what he himself calls evil. How can he take on the job of an evangelist for such a large congregation… heck for any congregation, and be anything other than a fraud in his peoples eyes and the eyes of his God, and his own eyes for that matter?

I don’t think he HAS a struggle. I don’t think he is sorry (except maybe that he got caught). I don’t think he had any problems with the life-style he was leading and I don’t think he felt any shame over it or the lies he created to let him keep his apparently well paying “job” Calling of the Lord my left butt cheek. If he was a true man of god, he would not be in so high a position while he had that sort of ‘problem’ To do otherwise was to violate everything he claims to believe in, so he lied not only about being gay and being a drug addict, but he lied about being a believer.

I do not accept this as an apology. I wouldn’t if I was a member of his church and I don’t as a citizen of the country he lied to.

]]> By: Tank http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/comment-page-7/#comment-1081588 Tank Mon, 06 Nov 2006 12:46:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/haggard-confesses-i-am-a-deciever-and-a-liar/#comment-1081588 <b>Quote: "This man should be put out on public display and stoned!"</b> Progressive. Quote: “This man should be put out on public display and stoned!”

Progressive.

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