In a new article in Vanity Fair, prominent neoconservative Richard Perle — one of the principle advocates of invading Iraq — blasts the Bush administration’s policy in Iraq. Here’s some key excerpts:
[Bush] did not make decisions, in part because the machinery of government that he nominally ran was actually running him…Huge mistakes were made, and I want to be very clear on this: They were not made by neoconservatives, who had almost no voice in what happened, and certainly almost no voice in what happened after the downfall of the regime in Baghdad. I’m getting damn tired of being described as an architect of the war. I was in favor of bringing down Saddam. Nobody said, ‘Go design the campaign to do that.’ I had no responsibility for that.
Now, Perle is calling foul, saying he only agreed to tell the truth if it was published after the election. Here’s Perle in the National Review:
Vanity Fair has rushed to publish a few sound bites from a lengthy discussion with David Rose…I had been promised that my remarks would not be published before the election.
Another prominent conservative quoted in the article Eliot Cohen, has a different view. Cohen said, “thinking the government’s conduct of the Iraq war an entirely appropriate subject of political debate I do not think anyone should have kept mum in an interview of this kind until an election had passed.”
Yep, that sounds about right for a piece of garbage like Perle.
November 5th, 2006 at 12:09 pmAmerica’s Least Wanted
In other words, once again, party loyalty trumps everything else, including kids getting slaughtered in Iraq because of the lies that he and the rest of the jackals of PNAC were spreading. No wonder they compare this scumbag with Dracula.
Frank Rich is absolutely on target: We ought to throw these truthiness bums on their pointy ears.
November 5th, 2006 at 12:10 pmCHICKENSH** CHICKENHAWKS.
Are we surprised by the inablity ever tell the truth or take responsibility?
November 5th, 2006 at 12:10 pmSounds like the rats are looking to find another ship.
November 5th, 2006 at 12:14 pmNote typo: Change “experts” to “excerpts”
November 5th, 2006 at 12:15 pmHow does it feels being deceived. I have not pitty for these assholes.
November 5th, 2006 at 12:16 pmPerhaps Messers Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld Perle et al. all deserve to be renditioned to Iraq where they would be stripped, gagged, blindfolded, bound at the hands and feet, and then paraded in the streets.
After their 10 day stroll in Bagdhad, they would then go to Guantanamo where they can live out their lives under the watch of Islamic militants who would end their tirade against the west in exchange for their sorry asses.
November 5th, 2006 at 12:18 pmI have never called Novakula an Architect for war, I have always called him a Cheerleader for war.
November 5th, 2006 at 12:20 pmPERLE YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION, NAY , A DUTY TO TELL ALL BEFORE THE ELECTION . NO LONGER BE A CHICKEN HAWCK , SHOW YOUR STUFF.
November 5th, 2006 at 12:27 pmWow, one of the Neocon Bunch leaders is now trying to dissociate himself with those remarks?
Sure, maybe you, like David Frum, will blame everything on Vanity Fair, and not on neocon idiocy!
November 5th, 2006 at 12:32 pmI love how they are helping our cause… Keep them talking…
November 5th, 2006 at 12:35 pm2800 plus (Including five of my Soldiers) Dead
Over 50,000 (Including 17 of mine) injured
And you only agree to tell the truth after an election!!??
And these are the type of people WE are over here dying for!!???
All of you who are apologist and enablers for these idiots should all go to hell…………………twice.
Support the troops my ass, you bastards don’t appreciate us. You treat us like S#$T in the grocery store line, at resturants, the movies etc.
But you put a bumper sticker on your BMW SUV and all of the sudden you support us BULL!!
Give us you son’s and daughters so that my Soldiers can get some well deserved rest instead of doing their third and fourth tours for some of the most ungrateful, unpatriotic, hypocrites to walk this earth.
What party stays in power is more important than SOLDIERS in a time when we shouldn’t even be in this mess called Iraq.
UN-F’IN Believable!!
Acutally no it’s not, this is what you should expect from those who hate freedom.
RIP
SGT Stephen R Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (Stryker)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Died because Saddam had in his focus the “Preparation of Nuclear Weapons”
And disrespected because those calling themselves leaders would rather stay in power than HONOR his sacrifice.
SHAMLESS
And will be remembered by the President of these DIVIDED States as comma #1492
November 5th, 2006 at 12:42 pmI mentioned yesterday to look for what is happening under the public radar.
Here’s one item:
US stops audit of Iraq rebuilding
The vast bill for rebuilding Iraq has created a need for rigorous auditing.
A US government agency that has exposed corruption in Iraqi reconstruction projects will close in 2007.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6114132.stm
That’s right. The War Profiteers are no longer being audited. This was put in a clause in Warner’s Military Spending Act for 2007. We are going into debt to the tune of billions upon billions of dollars to corporations like Halliburton, CACI, Blackwater, etc. and they won’t even be audited. They’ve been handed a blank check which our great-great-great grandchildren will still be paying for. If you want to see how bad it was under the audits, see “Iraq for Sale.”
Then ask yourself, will these companies clean up their act, now that noone will question their spending?
November 5th, 2006 at 12:43 pm#7 Goods – we agree on that!
November 5th, 2006 at 12:47 pm# 12 You spoke better than any politician for the reason to get out of IRAK .
November 5th, 2006 at 12:51 pmYou are treated by these republicans as hired help You see they believe the COUNTRYy and the TREASURY BELONGS TO THEM
Good god, what a slime bag.
November 5th, 2006 at 12:56 pmThat’s right. The War Profiteers are no longer being audited. This was put in a clause in Warner’s Military Spending Act for 2007.
—-Briseadh na Faire
That bill has alot of little “clauses” in it, including making is easier for Bush to declare military law and to quell dissent if he or the military decide something is a “threat” to the US, leaving it wide open for Bush to decide. It also takes Governer’s rights over the State Guard and gives Bush the right to comandeer them over the rights of the States.
Folks Bush now can use troops on US citizens for the crime of speaking out against the government because this bill also brought back elements of the old inssurection act as well.
November 5th, 2006 at 12:59 pmWHY hasn’t he been telling the TRUTH about Iraq all along?
November 5th, 2006 at 1:08 pmPolitics before country.
What is it with all of these neo-cons and theo cons. Not an honest man in the bunch.
-GSD
November 5th, 2006 at 1:19 pmwow, how nice of him, he wanted those incompetent twits he’s heaping abuse on to get reelected.
furthermore, i’m very much enjoying the neocon contention that it all would have worked out fine had it been done properly, golly if only they had MORE influence! that sounds like arguments you still hear for communisim, you know, it just wasnt done properly. authoritarian apples dont fall too far from the tree.
November 5th, 2006 at 1:22 pmKeep ‘em coming!
According to Woodward’s book, Mary Cheney was intially put in charge of the post-Iraq invasion plan. And look how good that worked out.
November 5th, 2006 at 1:25 pmThe rats are starting to emerge andd jump ship.
November 5th, 2006 at 1:41 pmI see no trolls. Maybe there are some things even trolls can’t defend.
November 5th, 2006 at 1:50 pmMr Pearle is so considerate. He thinks a shot of truth might be a good thing after five years of lies, torture, death and looting of treasury. He thinks we will believe him? He thinks the truth will exonerate him?
November 5th, 2006 at 1:50 pmPearle, You may try to wipe up blood with cashmere rags but you still have it all over your evil self.
America’s sons and daughters are dying while these A holes are playing politics…worried about thier own carrers. Fire Them ALL on November 7th. If your Democrat supported the war, fire them too. It’s time for a change in America. And these assholes are worried about thier own carrers. You see how Hillary but Kerry up under the bus.
November 5th, 2006 at 1:56 pmAnother republiscum crying “Don’t blame me!”
November 5th, 2006 at 1:57 pmPut them all in a bag, shake them up and pour them out — pick one, it won’t make any difference; they’re all the same.
Look for Vanity Fair to be classified as treasonous, along with the papers, and anyone else who crosses Bush&Co.
November 5th, 2006 at 1:59 pmPerle also looks like the spiritually rotten man he is. I wouldn’t let that man within a mile of a child, a kitten or a congressional page.
-GSD
November 5th, 2006 at 2:09 pm“I fully supported the Iraq war, but I take no responsibility for how this turned out”
November 5th, 2006 at 2:30 pmWTF?
And he would have done what differently?
Once the dice were rolled, getting bitten by snake eyes and run over by boxcars were inevitable.
Meanwhile, back in Iraq:
Saddam verdict deepens Iraq’s sectarian divide
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061105/ts_afp/iraqtrialsaddamsunnishiite
November 5th, 2006 at 2:32 pmHow dreadful! Richard Pearle is loosing his illusions. Vanity Fair lied to him. He who is such a figure of truth and virtue must be in a state of shock.
November 5th, 2006 at 2:33 pmNaturally he never imagined straying from the path of virtue, if only his mother had warned him against the treacherous lying pitfalls awaiting her wide eyed innocent little boy.
Get over it old man, you can’t win all the wars, that is probably why you have your eye on a new one. So as just not to lose your touch.
I’ll tell you a secret, be careful, you can’t believe anything anyone in the political world tells you.
You sure know how to kill a country,perle. How do you sleep at night? You have no soul,no morals,and that smell you smell is YOU…rotting from the inside.
November 5th, 2006 at 2:39 pmahhhh, how very nice of you……….squerrrrly perrrrrly.
November 5th, 2006 at 3:01 pmIf Perle and his NeoCons criticisingthe situation on the groud in Iraq, it is a good indicative that things are seriously not going well..and it comes from the masters of the plan….
November 5th, 2006 at 3:13 pmThe National Review is claiming Vanity Fair misrepresented what these neocons said. But judging from these neocon’s reactions, it seems their real frustration goes to the fact that what they said has become public before the election. OK, Vanity Fair published excerpts. So I say – publish the whole thing TODAY.
November 5th, 2006 at 3:46 pmIncompetence, on a Global scale.
Don’t blame my “idea”, blame those who took my advice.
Night-night little Neocon, your bed is made.
November 5th, 2006 at 3:52 pm#14, RUCerious: #7 Goods – we agree on that!
RUCerious we probably would agree on more if you were better read.
The New Middle East, Richard N. Haass, Foreign Affairs, November/December 2006
Summary:Â The age of U.S. dominance in the Middle East has ended and a new era in the modern history of the region has begun. It will be shaped by new actors and new forces competing for influence, and to master it, Washington will have to rely more on diplomacy than on military might.
When the Shiites Rise, Vali Nasr, Foreign Affairs, July/August 2006
Summary:Â By toppling Saddam Hussein, the Bush administration has liberated and empowered Iraq’s Shiite majority and has helped launch a broad Shiite revival that will upset the sectarian balance in Iraq and the Middle East for years to come. This development is rattling some Sunni Arab governments, but for Washington, it could be a chance to build bridges with the region’s Shiites, especially in Iran.
Beware of What You Wish For, F. Gregory Gause III, Foreign Affairs – author update, February 8, 2006
Summary:Â Gause’s update to his September/October 2005 essay “Can Democracy Stop Terrorism?”
Can Democracy Stop Terrorism?, F. Gregory Gause III, Foreign Affairs, September/October 2005
November 5th, 2006 at 4:19 pmSummary:Â The Bush administration contends that the push for democracy in the Muslim world will improve U.S. security. But this premise is faulty: there is no evidence that democracy reduces terrorism. Indeed, a democratic Middle East would probably result in Islamist governments unwilling to cooperate with Washington
I want to know why these PNAC neocons are coming out. What in the world would these liars have to gain by openning their mouths???
November 5th, 2006 at 4:31 pmgood stuff, goodscarrier-
November 5th, 2006 at 4:34 pmPerle has such feminine eyes.
November 5th, 2006 at 4:43 pmBush isn’t to blame for the mess in Iraq because decisions were made by “the machinery of government”, which was the neocons in power who apparently and paradoxically had “no voice”. And Pearle’s not an architect of the war because he only was in favor of bringing down Hussein, which the war was designed to do, and Pearle, apparently, had no public voice to protest any opposition or, alternatively, had no opposition. And by the way, Pearle’s protest now should not be published until after the election wo the same “machinery of government” can remain in power.
And I thought I got dizzy and nauseated as a child spinning around on a wound swing. I gotta go find a barf bag.
November 5th, 2006 at 4:49 pmPerle has such feminine eyes.
Comment by pity the fool
Why do you hate girls?
November 5th, 2006 at 4:52 pmTypical lying republican Freak.
November 5th, 2006 at 5:06 pmPerles before swine?
November 5th, 2006 at 5:19 pmPerle must be deported to Israel and never allowed to enter the US again!
November 5th, 2006 at 5:29 pmPerle must be deported to Israel and never allowed to enter the US again!
November 5th, 2006 at 5:46 pmI got a better idea. Send Perle and the rest of the neocons and GDumbya and his Keystone Kops to Baghdad.
Put them all in a waterproof box with Saddam. Place the box in a public square where the Iraqis can all come by and spit on them. They will all drown within half an hour.
WAAAAAAAAAAHHH
POOR DICKIE THE STICK
WAAAAAAH
November 5th, 2006 at 5:57 pmIf he has to wait until after the election, then he must be guilty of being a traitor.
November 5th, 2006 at 6:19 pmWhat a classic crock of shit this man is….the American ppl have the right to know….AFTER the election….
Die you bastard.
November 5th, 2006 at 7:26 pmPoor baby! As if breaking the promise (if one was ever made) to not publish what he freely admits he said is a serious thing compared taking a country to war under false pretenses. Doublespeak – Double think – freedom is slavery – ignorance is truth
November 5th, 2006 at 9:42 pmboy, what happens to somebody who double deals with the Prince of Darkness? does he curse you with dark rings around your eyes and the jaundiced palor of a Nazi war criminal? they didn’t mean it, oh great Prince of Darkness.
November 5th, 2006 at 9:43 pmRATS. SHIP. TALK TO THE HAND.
November 5th, 2006 at 9:52 pmThe elections arn’t going to change the facts on the ground. They all have blood on their hands. The media and congress that wouldn’t ask questions are as guilty as Bush.
November 5th, 2006 at 10:07 pmI Only Agreed To Tell The Truth(?) About Iraq If It ‘Would Not Be Published Before The Election’
Tough Toenails Ya Big Liar!
November 5th, 2006 at 10:30 pmHAHAHA, tough shit for you, repuke. How’s it taste?
November 6th, 2006 at 8:44 amWTF !?
Until after the election? Does Perle think this administration is a good thing?
November 6th, 2006 at 9:53 amanother neocon thug and hypocrite.
November 6th, 2006 at 9:55 amAn excellent speech by Scott Horton entitled: When Lawyers Are War Criminals makes for a good complementary piece linking the neocon lawyers of the Bush admin with fascist Nazi lawyers who legitimized Hitler’s program of “dissappearances” and summary trials called “Nacht und Nebelerlass,” “Night and Fog Decree.” How this plays out in the recently passed Military Tribunals Act is bonechilling.
http://library.law.pace.edu/blogs/jib/2006/10/when_lawyers_are_war_criminals.html
November 6th, 2006 at 10:08 amAll of these guys are so epicene. Why is that, I wonder?
They’re sounding a bit confused. They should have asked O’Reilly to write up their “talking points”. O’Reilly would’ve kept them “on message”, you betcha.
November 6th, 2006 at 11:30 amOne of the big, big lies the Neocons tell, and which credulous fools lap up, is that theirs’ is an idealistic movement — and the unprovoked war on Iraq was a ‘noble cause’. These jackals assume we forget their past incarnations — as the most cynical machtpolitikkers, who propped up Authoritarian regimes (dictators and murderers friendly to the US and opposed dictators (but also reformist governments, which they labelled Totalitarian,) if they disobeyed us, or gasp! were favorable to Russia. What these people care about, have always cared about is power and empire. Saying the war was a good idea but it was the execution that was the problem is like saying jumping out a 10 story window is a good idea, except for the ending.
Twisting reality to endow the Iraq war with idealistic intent is the same as Hitler’s idealistic fantasy of a 1000 year Reich — all those handsome tow heads living peacefully amongst each other, all those evil foreigners and sub humans banished. Same as the Bolshevik fantasy that all property is theft. Under this bizarre rationale, Rev Haggard was an idealist also, since he was spreading love to the homosexual community by trysting with that buff male prostitute.
November 6th, 2006 at 11:49 amGood thing the righties ride single-speed bikes – otherwise they’d just sit in one spot and tip over when they tried back-pedalling so quickly.
November 6th, 2006 at 7:13 pmAnd I promised to pull out. Shut up Perle.
November 6th, 2006 at 9:01 pmSo, Goods, instead of just posting those quotes you attack RU. Again you prove to be nothing but a pathetic little s**t.
November 6th, 2006 at 9:05 pmUsually when this sort of stuff happens, jumping the gun, they call everyone back to the starting line and do the start over….
November 6th, 2006 at 11:01 pm#12 U Got To Be Kidding!!
You nailed it!!!!
November 7th, 2006 at 2:15 amPerle’s of death and destruction! This guy belongs in jail!
November 14th, 2006 at 10:50 pm[...] Richard Perle, Wolfowitz revealed that he has not given up hope in the neoconservative dream of transforming Iraq [...]
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