ThinkFast: November 6, 2006
ThinkFast: November 6, 2006
FBI Criminal Division chief James Burrus says “the bureau is ramping up its ability to catch crooked politicians and might run an undercover sting on Congress.” He expects an emphasis on rooting out public corruption “for many, many, many years to come.”
House Speaker Hastert’s (R-IL) future “is in doubt even if the Republicans retain control of the House” because of unease over his handling of the Foley page scandal and “what a House ethics committee investigation might conclude about him,” the Washington Post reports.
A proposed constitutional amendment to ban gay marraige in South Dakota is too close to call. Forty-seven percent say they are opposed to the amendment while 46 percent support it.
Federal prosecutors rejected 87 percent of the international terrorism cases brought by the FBI during the first nine months of fiscal year 2006. Prosecutions fell from 118 defendants in fiscal year 2002, to 19 defendants from Oct. 1, 2005, to June 30, 2006. The Justice Department disputed the findings.
“The U.S. government conducted a series of secret war games in 1999 that anticipated an invasion of Iraq would require 400,000 troops, and even then chaos might ensue.” Read the full study HERE.
Robert Novak writes conservative political operatives grumble that Bush’s presence on the campaign trail has been a drag. One operative told Novak what Bush’s strategy should have been: “The president should go on a 2 1/2 -week vacation, and when he gets back, go right into the hospital for minor surgery. In other words, he should have disappeared.”
Iraq is one of the most corrupt countries in the world, according to new rankings from Transparency International. “When you have high levels of violence,” the group’s chief executive said, “not only does security break down, but so do checks and balances, law enforcement and the functioning of institutions like the judiciary and legislature.”
A recent CIA assessment found that Afghan president Hamid Karzai has been “significantly weakened by rising popular frustration with his American-backed government.” Karzai continues “to struggle to exert authority beyond Kabul,” and is increasingly viewed as corrupt.
House Intelligence Chairman Peter Hoekstra (R-MI) criticized the Bush administration yesterday “for its handling of a trove of once-secret documents from Saddam Hussein’s covert nuclear program disclosed on a federal Web site.” “It looks like they screwed up,” he said.
And finally: Vice President Dick Cheney will shoot his friend pheasant on Election Day. “On his first hunting trip since he accidentally shot a companion last February while aiming at a covey of quail on a private Texas ranch,” Cheney “will head to South Dakota to spend several days at a private hunting lodge near Pierre.”
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Iraq is one of the most corrupt countries in the world,
It is nice to see the neo-con repugs were successful in exporting their personal style of governence to Iraq.
No wonder Bush claimed mission accomplished.
November 6th, 2006 at 9:08 amHa! Good luck to that undercover operation. Somehow I just don’t see it happening.
November 6th, 2006 at 9:10 amAmerica’s Least Wanted
Only one question remains today:
What will YOU do if the Repubs. steal this election?
November 6th, 2006 at 9:12 amAnd finally: Vice President Dick Cheney will shoot pheasant on Election Day. “On his first hunting trip since he accidentally shot a companion last February while aiming at a covey of quail on a private Texas ranch,†Cheney “will head to South Dakota to spend several days at a private hunting lodge near Pierre.â€
Who’s bringing the beer?
November 6th, 2006 at 9:14 amMissed:
US stops audit of Iraq rebuilding
The office, which also reported the 14,000 missing weapons, is being closed due to a clause in Warner’s 2007 Military Spending Authorization.
Halliburton, KNBR, CACI and others with no-bid contracts now have no oversight contracts as well.
If you want to know how bad it was with oversight, watch “Iraq for Sale.”
November 6th, 2006 at 9:15 amCorrection Wayne (#4).
November 6th, 2006 at 9:18 amShouldn’t that be “who’s bringing a beer, to be drunk 6-8 hours before the actual “hunt”?
Of course! ToTheCenter.com What do you expect!?!?!
November 6th, 2006 at 9:19 amMissed:
Poll: Bush approval rating dips to 35 percent
It looks like Bush’s campaigning is having an effect:
The faithful few:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/06/bush.poll/index.html
November 6th, 2006 at 9:24 amlink for #5:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6114132.stm
November 6th, 2006 at 9:25 amFBI Criminal Division chief James Burrus says “the bureau is ramping up its ability to catch crooked politicians and might run an undercover sting on Congress.†He expects an emphasis on rooting out public corruption “for many, many, many years to come.â€
Why in the world would they tell us they will be doing a HUSH HUSH undercover sting operation on Congress?
Doesn’t it sort of defeat the purpose to warn people you will be doing a sting on them?
Finding a crooked politician heh, shouldn’t be that hard to do.
November 6th, 2006 at 9:26 amWell the thread this morning lists a number of reasons why anyone who continues to support the morons in office must be morons themselves.
November 6th, 2006 at 9:26 amRacists, homophobes and religious zealots vote with their blinders on, and keep the lying bastards in office.
Happy Monday All, this is it, the last day before the election….
Wayne, is it just me or does it seem strange the big gun is going to South Dakota…Wonder if he will be standing out side a high voting precent with the loaded $12,000 shot gun…I would not be suprised.
Judd….Is the posting box going to be fixed soon?…High wind’s heavy rain and tiny posting box will keep me away today….Blessings all
November 6th, 2006 at 9:26 amIn other news:
Iraqi president will not sign death warrant for Saddam
By Rory Carroll / Guardian
read more:http://michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=8297
November 6th, 2006 at 9:28 amAnd here’s a move to limit the ability of the Judicial Branch to uphold the Constitution:
O’Connor worries about courts’ autonomy
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/15939512.htm
This is just wrong on so many levels.
November 6th, 2006 at 9:34 amGood post’s, BnF, It appear’s there is one voice standing alone in Iraq…Here in Washingon state there were many dancing in the street wanting him to be hung…Iraq citizen’s living in our area were expressing their view’s…..Life in prison would serve a better purpose is my thinking……..Blessings
November 6th, 2006 at 9:37 amIt was the congressman who represents my district, Duncan Hunter, who inserted the language to terminate the auditing protocol in Iraq.
Every time I think he can’t do anything more to infuriate and frustrate me, to crap on everything I believe America was and could be again, he comes up with something new.
I’ve given up writing protests to him. The reply letters are personal but masterpieces of Soviet-style disinformation and NewSpeak. I’m ready to move out!
November 6th, 2006 at 9:38 am#14 BNF, could there be a more obvious attempt to intimidate the judiciary? These clowns stop at absolutely nothing in thier attempt to undermine our system of government while.
November 6th, 2006 at 9:40 amYet another reason for Bush’ Iraq War:
http://michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=8293
November 6th, 2006 at 9:41 amI think Uncle Deadeye is heading for the woods, figuratively speaking… South Dakota is real close to “Bunker Country”… lots of old missle silos……
November 6th, 2006 at 9:41 amHope he’s not gonna try and pull a “Slim Pickens” ride on a really big “gun”……
#17 – well, there was Ann Coulter’s ‘creme broule’ remark.
November 6th, 2006 at 9:43 amThis is just wrong on so many levels.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — November 6, 2006 @ 9:34 am
While yes it would put another layer of oversight and regulation in place, I tend to shudder at the thought.
November 6th, 2006 at 9:43 amBaby ‘mercy killing’ debate call
The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists wants a discussion over whether “deliberate intervention” to cause death should be legalised.
And people claim abortion isn’t a slippery slope. Maybe soon we can kill children up till the age of 5, like a trial period.
November 6th, 2006 at 9:44 amFollowup on #18 – so, we have to occupy a sovereign nation in order to control its natural resources?
Imperialism: the policy, practice, or advocacy of extending the power and dominion of a nation especially by direct territorial acquisitions or by gaining indirect control over the political or economic life of other areas.
November 6th, 2006 at 9:47 amSo Little Gorgy now admits that oil is the real reason he dragged US into Iraq?
November 6th, 2006 at 9:48 amWhy is that, eh? Who’d a ever thunk it……….
Notr funny Squeege..
You know darn well a child isn’t a human being until it gets potty trained.
Trolls!!
November 6th, 2006 at 9:49 amThe Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists wants a discussion over whether “deliberate intervention†to cause death should be legalised.
And people claim abortion isn’t a slippery slope. Maybe soon we can kill children up till the age of 5, like a trial period.
Comment by squegeeboo
Look up Eugenics… It was quite popular in America and later in Hitlers Nazi Germany… Those crazy racists always trying to make the perfect white race…
November 6th, 2006 at 9:49 amMaybe instead of stealing other peoples oil why not do what Americans did in WWII? Push science to a new level are cut our addiction to middle east oil? THEN we can stand on a strong position of independance and say to Saudi Arabia … sooooo what about that 911 thing? Hmmm….
November 6th, 2006 at 9:51 am21 – it’s not about oversight nor regulation. It’s about going after judges one disagrees with.
There’s already oversight, both through ethics complaints and through the ballot box, as State judges hold non-partisan elected positions.
Remember, half the parties in a dispute go away from court disappointed. Under a law like what’s being proposed, a judge will face the possibility of a lawsuit or criminal investigation with every ruling s/he makes.
Do you want a judge who will rule according to the law, or according to mob justice?
Sorry, I shouldn’t have asked that. From your earlier posts, it is obvious you’d prefer a dictatorship.
November 6th, 2006 at 9:53 amone last post before work. I just received this email:
Karl Rove has been bragging for weeks about his “72-hour program” to swing the elections, which predict a Democratic takeover of Congress.
Now we know what it is: a dirty trick campaign using robocalls.
The calls are made to Democrats and swing voters at all times of day or night to make them angry. And they pretend to be from the Democrat (”Hello, I’m calling with information about Lois Murphy”). If you hang up, they call back 7-8 times, and each time you hear the Democrat’s name, to get you angry at him or her. If you stay on, you get to hear a scathing attack on the Democrat.
Karl Rove’s whole career has been devoted to dirty tricks. In 2002, his dirty trick was to force Congress to vote shortly before Election Day for the Iraq War based on two months of White House lies about WMD’s and Al Qaeda ties. That dirty trick has cost the lives of 2,834 brave young Americans (16 so far in November), $2 trillion in debt to our children and grandchildren, and unleashed massive bloodshed in Iraq.
It’s too late for legal action or even newspaper stories. If you receive one of these calls, write down the time and candidate and call every radio and TV show you can and urge everyone listening to vote against the disgusting Republican dirty tricksters. And forward this email to everyone you know so they aren’t fooled by Karl Rove’s dirty trick.
Let’s make this Karl Rove’s LAST campaign by voting ALL Republicans out of office.
More details:
November 6th, 2006 at 9:57 amhttp://www.talkingpointsmemo.com
http://dailykos.com
#26
Ah, thanks, now I understand, killing feti is all about personal choice, but killing children is about creating the Ãœbermensch and is only done by racists.
November 6th, 2006 at 9:57 amComment by Briseadh na Faire — November 6, 2006 @ 9:53 am
While yes it would put another layer of oversight and regulation in place, I tend to shudder at the thought.
What out of that gives you the impression I like that idea? I thought we finally agreed on something and you take it as an argument.
November 6th, 2006 at 9:58 am#29 Briseadh,
And let’s not forget who the president put in charge of overseeing the reconstruction of the Gulf Coast after Hurricanes Katrina and Rita: Karl Rove. How’s that reconstruction coming along, Karl? Anyone’s life been made better yet?
November 6th, 2006 at 10:18 amAh, thanks, now I understand, killing feti is all about personal choice, but killing children is about creating the Ãœbermensch and is only done by racists.
Comment by squegeeboo
correct.
November 6th, 2006 at 10:22 amThis morning on the beeb or Nice Polite Republicans some admin shill was saying that the terroris prosecution numbers don’t say what they say. You have to hear the explanation to believe it but apparently math now has a liberal bias.
November 6th, 2006 at 10:23 amThere was never a time in my life when I expected to quote anything from “The American Conservative,” a magazine started by Pat Buchanan, but things have changed, and now “conservatives” are calling for the ouster of the GOP. Yep, hard to believe, but true, and this little gem is something we can use to sway some of those “conservative” voters – when they understand that even those who are real conservatives are dead-set against the President!
The American Conservative Magazine states “GOP Must Go!â€
JAC
November 6th, 2006 at 10:24 amHere’s an interactivie poll on who’s going to win Congress tomorrow.
November 6th, 2006 at 10:25 amhttp://www.polibuzz.blogspot.com
Let’s show some confidence in the Dems: vote for the Dem sweep!
Who’s bringing the beer?
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
To hell with the beer, Wayne, who’s bringing the full body armour? And who’s going to need it…?
November 6th, 2006 at 10:28 amAnd people claim abortion isn’t a slippery slope. Maybe soon we can kill children up till the age of 5, like a trial period.
Comment by squegeeboo
Well, I’d say we could kill ‘em up until they’re 21, but with college costs involved, there’s quite the investment… Sort of a Catch 22…
Heh.
Hey, Squeegy, it’s great to have you back!
November 6th, 2006 at 10:30 am#37
To hell with the beer, Wayne, who’s bringing the full body armour? And who’s going to need it…?
You don’t need full body armor, just a face mask. Which brings us back to the beer, I’m all for a nice IPA or two, but only after hunting, maybe even have it with a quail breast.
As for #33, fair enough.
November 6th, 2006 at 10:30 am#38
Zooey, I’ve missed you too, never let go, so basically your for setting the age at 17/18ish?
You can thank Tundra for finally sucking me back in, he’s been trying for a few weeks now, I think starting a fantasy congress league with him was the begining of the end for me.
November 6th, 2006 at 10:32 amThe news for repugs is so bad that their trolls have to go back to outrageous and hypothetical straw man agruments to make a lame case for a fact-free talking point.
November 6th, 2006 at 10:34 amI am almost ashamed to admit that I am originally from South Dakota. there is a large group of people there that would love nothing more than return that state to the dark ages. Their completely illegal ban on all abortions bill is on the ballot as well as ban on gay marriage and now the judges thing. How fitting Cheney should spend election day in such an ass backwards place shooting animals. I now live in the blue state of Minnesota. Go TIM WALZ!!!!!!!
November 6th, 2006 at 10:35 amAnd finally: Vice President Dick Cheney will shoot his friend pheasant on Election Day.
Hilarious
November 6th, 2006 at 10:38 amApparently tomorrow is somewhat if a big day?
November 6th, 2006 at 10:42 amI think everyone that votes should see the movie IRAQ FOR SALE. This will change a few Republicans minds. If the Republicans have a brain that is.
November 6th, 2006 at 10:42 amThe U.S. government conducted a series of secret war games in 1999 that anticipated an invasion of Iraq would require 400,000 troops
The invasion didn’t need 400k, it only needed the 150ish that were sent, it’s the occupation that was undermanned. On that note, anyone see the Simpsons Tree House of Horrors last night? Good bit with Kodus and Kang(the aliens) with an Iraq spoof/slam right at the end.
November 6th, 2006 at 10:44 am“I’m starting to think ‘Operation Enduring Occupation’ was a bad idea.”
Larry from c, answer to you’re question ” what will you do if the rep’s steal another election.”? I will continue to horde food, water, ammo and join the revalution that will surely start up…How about you.?…..Blessings
November 6th, 2006 at 10:45 amAnd people claim abortion isn’t a slippery slope. Maybe soon we can kill children up till the age of 5, like a trial period.
Comment by squegeeboo
And America’s now an empire, so shouldn’t we adopt the ways of empire? Kids and wives become their father’s property, and can be sold or killed if the pater wishes it, no matter how old they are.
November 6th, 2006 at 10:46 am…killing feti is all about personal choice, but killing children is about creating the Ãœbermensch and is only done by racists.
Comment by squegeeboo
correct.
Comment by ggibson — November 6, 2006 @ 10:22 am
HUH???! how can you say such a thing, gerald???
i’m not sure EITHER of you read the whole article… suggest you do so…
these are severely disabled newborns…
and the whole story is about putting forth the discussion… The college made its comments in a submission to the Nuffield Council on Bioethics, which is carrying out an inquiry into the viability of life.
Nuffield will publish its report on critical care decisions in foetal and neonatal medicine next week.
your, and squeegee’s, comments only point out an ignorance of the subject… it’s hard to even imagine being in the shoes of the parents who have to make such a decision… my family has it’s own littlest angel… fortunately, she was unable to “hang on” long enough even with extensive neonatal care and my brother didn’t have to decide…
November 6th, 2006 at 10:50 amshut up until you know what you’re talking about.
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#48
Kids and wives become their father’s property, and can be sold or killed if the pater wishes it, no matter how old they are.
As long as we’re clear that it’s the fathers decision, I have no issue with it. Also, America’s been an empire since the Spanish American War, we’ve just been better at smoothing over that fact.
November 6th, 2006 at 10:51 am#46 – Hey Squegeeboo! Long time, no read! :-)
Yeah, I saw it and thought it was highly appropriate.
I also liked the Blob episode! That was a very interesting solution for the homeless problem!
November 6th, 2006 at 10:57 am#51 – Democrat Soldier, good to see your still around, more people to play with!
That was a very interesting solution for the homeless problem!
And they even let the dog go, so you know that it was the most humane choice.
#49 Katy, I’m sorry for your lose, your right
November 6th, 2006 at 11:01 amComment by katy
I read the article last night. I also know all about eugenics. I also have seen all the pictures I need to see about abortion (late term and other wise.)
Logically I see why the people are saying that these severaly disabled babies and their parents have nothing to look forwards to but pain. If they had a medical cure they would suggest the cure instead of death. They are not being immoral. They are trying to find a way to save everyone from alot of pain. This is understandable. However it is not considering what the religious people rightfully defend as being “pro-life”. I am not against the religious right because they are “pro-life” someone needs to defend that stance. I am against the religious right because they try to use the LAW to force that onto everyone else…. even to the point of calling CELLS babies…
Once a child is born or even very close to it (I am against late term abortions) then LIFE should be allowed to take whatever path it is going to take .. even if the child is so disabled they will die in months. It is NOT purely logical. But no one ever said that everything in this world MUST be purely logical. It was LOGICAL for Jesus to submit to the Jewish religious leaders that wanted him to tell the people that Jesus had lied to them so that he could live. It was LOGICAL for Jesus to tell the Romans that he was refering to being the King of a kingdom that only exists in the heart of men… so that he could live. Jesus choose NOT to do the LOGICAL thing for something else… something that would only bring PAIN to him and his followers. But that something else eventually led to Roman giving up on the “games” that was basically slaughtering people for sport. It also eventually led to people saying “ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL”.
Sometimes you do things that are RIGHT and you cant really say why… it is illogical but in the long run it is the right thing to do. Sort of like how when George Washington was offered to be the king of America he said I didnt defeat one king george to become another one. George Washington himself would not abuse that power… but in the long run there were other things to be considered. Some times you willing take on pain for an idea. Sometimes that IDEA is more important than the pain of a baby and its parents.
Just dont go to extremes. If a doctor can determine at the fetus stage that there are going to be severe problems then let the parents decide THEN to terminate. But if they wait too long then let LIFE … live. And nature will take its course.
November 6th, 2006 at 11:09 amthank you squeegee… btw, it’s “l-o-s-s” and “y-o-u-’-r-e”- as in “you are” – remember that too :-)
i meant to include a different link to that story that i read saturday…
November 6th, 2006 at 11:10 amhttp://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health_medical/article1956609.ece
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FBI Criminal Division chief James Burrus says “the bureau is ramping up its ability to catch crooked politicians and might run an undercover sting on Congress.†He expects an emphasis on rooting out public corruption “for many, many, many years to come.â€
Heh, naturally. The Dems are poised to take control of the House, they just might take the Senate as well, and NOW the FBI is interested in rooting out political corruption.
They’ll spend the next couple of years plastering the name of every Democrat who does anything wrong, no matter how slight the transgression. We’re talking about using a government-owned vehicle to drive a family member having a heart attack to the hospital when it would take an abulance 20 minutes longer to get to the scene. We’re talking about owing $7, 897.65 in taxes one year, and accidentally leaving off the 65 cents. We’re talking about scandalous pictures of Dem Reps with scnatlily clad “gal pals” on page one, with retractions that the “gal pal” was actually one of his nieces in a local production of “Sweet Charity” on page C27.
And in the next election cycle, all those sins will be amplified to Who-concert decibel levels by an increasingly shriekish NRCC desperate to prove just how corrupt those Dems really are, but they’ll forgive you if you’re now smart enough to vote Republican so they can clean house…you know, the way Republicans always clean house of nasty lawbreakers (on the other side).
Yeah, FBI, thanks for rooting out all that corruption NOW.
November 6th, 2006 at 11:12 am#29 – Briseadh na Faire,
November 6th, 2006 at 11:13 amKarl’s little trick may not be as effective as he thinks. Most people, I know, have either voted early or by absentee ballot. I’m gettting about 7 Unknow Name, Unknow Number (Caller ID) calls per day now. I just let the answering machine suck them up and screen and purge later.
ggibson,
I am speaking from certinally non-religous viewpoint.
My point is, I think allowing doctors to NOT “do everything they can” to save a life is wrong. Yes the child may bring pain and discomfort to someone, but terminating it doesn’t solve the problem. How do we begin the battle where someone terminates their unhealthy child and the very next day a cure is found (Using Stem cell research) that lets them live a normal life?
November 6th, 2006 at 11:24 amRoadmap for GOP to lose the midterm elections:
1. In response to the Katrina debacle, have Bush issue a signing statement that negates a requirement that the head of FEMA have at least 5 years experience.
2. In response to the rampant corruption in Iraq, close down the Iraq Auditor’s office.
3. When Hastert is caught red handed covering-up for Mark Foley, have him proudly blame everyone else around him a refuse to take responsibility.
4. When Iraq is descending into chaos, have Bush guarantee that Rumsfeld will stay as Defense Secretary for the next two years.
5. When Bush’s popularity is at an all time low, have him stump for GOP candidates.
6. When popularity of the GOP is waning with the Religious Right, make sure the Bush administration calls them “nuts” and have a prominent religious figure involved with sex and drugs.
7. When congress is perceived as corrupt, have more than a dozen GOP politicians immersed in scandals.
8. When Bush seems out of touch with reality, give “important” speeches that are more happy talk about winning in Iraq.
9. When Bush intends to use his political capital, waste it on privatizing Social Security, tout Immigration Reform and accomplish little, and for god sakes, squash any hint of any oversight over ethically challenged do-nothing Congress who sell votes to corporations.
Roadmap to GOP retaining control in medterm elections:
1. Require electronic voting in all the United States, and have absolutely no security measures in place to prevent hacking.
November 6th, 2006 at 11:31 amComment by Tundra
I dont think you read what I wrote.
Re-read it. I agree with you. The ONLY time that “termination” should be allowed is fetus stage.
November 6th, 2006 at 11:32 ambuzzbomb–
November 6th, 2006 at 11:33 amYou realize of course that returning South Dakota to the Dark Ages would get rid of all the white people….
#54 Katy
thank you squeegee… btw, it’s “l-o-s-s†and “y-o-u-’-r-eâ€- as in “you are†– remember that too :-)
Ha, oops, I got called into a meeting and didn’t have time to proof read the minimal bit I normally do. The ‘your’ would have still be wrong either way though. It was supposed to end with ‘you’re right, I’ve never been in a situation like that.’
November 6th, 2006 at 11:34 amOnce a child is born or even very close to it (I am against late term abortions) then LIFE should be allowed to take whatever path it is going to take… -ggibson…
this will be my last comment on this…
1. nobody is FOR “late term abortions”… unfortunately the medical procedure is necessary at times…
2. sounds like you don’t believe in NEO-NATAL medical care either…
my own son was “in distress” while passing through the birth canal and aspirated meconium and had to spend 2 weeks in NICU to receive treatment for a lung infection… at 6 lbs, he was the biggest, healthiest baby there, and after spending most of my time there also, i came away with an enormous respect and admiration for the nurses who care for those very sick babies…
you just can’t know… ever… till you have your own experience…
November 6th, 2006 at 11:39 ami would not wish it for anyone…
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oh, and by the way -
November 6th, 2006 at 11:44 ammy son is now 26 and will receive his PhD in CHEMISTRY next spring… on to post-doc work after that…
he’s doin’ ok…
Comment by ggibson — November 6, 2006 @ 11:32 am
I realized we agreed that the killing of kids was bad, my post was originally going to be a “and to back up type thing”, which then switched and then just got posted.
Poor wording on my part.
November 6th, 2006 at 11:45 am“The U.S. government conducted a series of secret war games in 1999 that anticipated an invasion of Iraq”
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa???? But…but…but, acording to ThinkProgress, the idea of invading Iraq was a totally “neo-con” / George W. Bush plan and that before Jan. 20, 2001 no one in the U.S. government ever conceived of the idea that invading Iraq may be necessary! Do you mean to tell me that even the Clinton administration recognized that Iraq was such a potential threat that it was necessary to plan for the possibility of invading Iraq?
November 6th, 2006 at 11:52 amTomorrow hopefully will be the election that smashes the GOP control of the Congress! If the votes are all counted fairly, then Democrats should pick up 25 to 30 House seats and 5 to 6 Senate seats, so that means control of the House and borderline for the Senate > perhaps a moderate Repub can be coaxed to become a Democrat in the Senate. Lieberman is a traitor, so voters in CT must kick his ass all the way to Israel. On the other hand if Karl Rove institutes massive GOP fraud tomorrow, then Democrats would only pick-up 8 to 12 House seats and probably 3 Senate seats. If the GOP and Bush Regime steal the election again, then Americans must do a nationwide work strike to bring Bush to his knees. Do not let them steal the election > PERIOD.
November 6th, 2006 at 11:53 amComment by Exley — November 6, 2006 @ 11:52 am
It just goes to show you how powerful the almighty Bush is. He engineered military games as the govenor of Texas. The Emperor in Star Wars did alot before he was the BMOC, it’s sort of something like that.
November 6th, 2006 at 11:59 am#65
If the GOP and Bush Regime steal the election again, then Americans must do a nationwide work strike to bring Bush to his knees. Do not let them steal the election > PERIOD.
Come on Jay, if the GOP keeps the house that dosn’t mean fraud, it just means that once again the polls had a slant towards the dem’s, just like most of the polls for roughly the last decade+.
November 6th, 2006 at 11:59 amAlso, I call > a greater then sign, or an alligator bracket, depending on the context, not a period.
Comment by katy — November 6, 2006 @ 11:44 am
well, that’s weird… that comment was a follow up to one i posted in reply to ggibson @ 11:09 am…
not sure why it didn’t show up, but i’ll leave it alone now… damn…
November 6th, 2006 at 12:00 pm.
#68
November 6th, 2006 at 12:03 pmKaty, it showed up, but then got stripped, myself and Tundra both saw it.
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa???? But…but…but, acording to ThinkProgress, the idea of invading Iraq was a totally “neo-con†/ George W. Bush plan and that before Jan. 20, 2001 no one in the U.S. government ever conceived of the idea that invading Iraq may be necessary! Do you mean to tell me that even the Clinton administration recognized that Iraq was such a potential threat that it was necessary to plan for the possibility of invading Iraq?
Comment by Exley
Dont you mean the NeoCon idea was the need for “a new pearl harbor”?
No one EVER said Saddam was a good guy. We also have plans for invading CHINA… that doesnt mean you just go do it like an idiot. Plans for every contingency is smart… but when you have your experts telling you “Al Qeada plans to attack on American soil soon” .. well then those plans for Iraq should remain plans until Iraq does something to make it more important than Al Qeada at that time…. its just basic commonsense really…
November 6th, 2006 at 12:07 pmboo > do not fall for GOP crap about phony polls showing Repubs keeping the Congress! Do you want a fascist dictatorship in America? If not then vote for Democrats and fight to prevent vote fraud! ( I do use > as a period or as a bracket.)
November 6th, 2006 at 12:08 pm( I do NOT use > as a period or bracket I mean > typed to fast > I use it as a pointer in getting an idea across > this is not a English class > lol.)
November 6th, 2006 at 12:12 pmno, i can’t… gotta try to repeat my comment…
Once a child is born or even very close to it (I am against late term abortions) then LIFE should be allowed to take whatever path it is going to take… And nature will take its course.
Comment by ggibson — November 6, 2006 @ 11:09 am
1. i think nobody is FOR “late term abortion”… sometimes it does become medically necessary.
2. sounds like you don’t believe in NEO-NATAL treatment either…
my own son spent 2 weeks in NICU because during labor he was “in destress” and as he passed through the birth canal he aspirated meconium, and had to be treated for a possible lung infection… at 6 lbs he was the biggest and healtiest baby there… after spending most of my time there also, i came away with a very healthy respect and admiration for the nurses who care for these very sick babies – and another perspective as to how the parents deal with it…
you can NEVER know until you are in that situation…
and i would not wish it on anyone…
and now you know the rest of that story…
November 6th, 2006 at 12:15 pm.
huh… well, thanks for the verification, squeegeeboo…
November 6th, 2006 at 12:19 pmwonder how/why that happened?…
“birth canal”?… “meconium”? (that is some bad shite, btw)… “NICU”?
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The FBI and the Justice Department have gone off the deep end ever since Mueller and Gonales took over. All they try and do is keep up the appearance of government oversight – do you think that Mueller’s FBI or Gonzale’s Justice will be looking into all the open-ended crooked contracts handed out to Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheney’s cronies? They’re probably busy bugging every Democratic Senator & Representative under the guise of ‘investigating corruption’ and funneling the information to Karl Rove on the side. No need to break into office buildings anymore.
The FBI’s main job these days? Spying on dissidents, infiltrating anti-war groups, investigating journalists – typical secret police activity. The entire upper echelon of the FBI should be fired for their glaring failures to a) prevent 9/11 (they could have!) and b) investigate the anthrax attacks and c) investigate the gross corruption within the executive branch of the government.
November 6th, 2006 at 12:38 pmHaving spent a hellish 15 days on Iwo almost 52 years ago, I am convinced that; A) if there is a God, he set the thing in motion and walked away, B) that in all armies (and all other branches), the grunts/dogfaces/leathernecks/swabbies/flyboys are and have always been cannon feed, regardless of the ‘pride in the service/corps etc.. It’s all crap.
November 6th, 2006 at 12:49 pmC) Americans are like the Germans of the 1933, they want a strong leader (ruler), they submit to extensive eavesdroping and spying, and welcome the government control of the media: propaganda. Anyone who votes for the present regime deserves exactly what they have gotten and will get in spades.
As: Thank you for your continuing service. Excellent post.
November 6th, 2006 at 12:55 pmOops, it is almost 62 years ago! Sorry. as
November 6th, 2006 at 1:08 pmYes, Exley, the Clinton administration may have had a contingency plan for invasion, as opposed to your guys, who had no plan for occupation. What’s your point?
November 6th, 2006 at 1:24 pmthanks
November 6th, 2006 at 4:24 pm“they want a strong leader (ruler), they submit to extensive eavesdropping and spying, and welcome the government control of the media: propaganda.”
When you say they, I hope you are referring to the baby boomers and not the rest of us. If you look at the politic-dynamic you will find a vast majority of the baby boomers are behind this support for a war on terror.
The rest of us don’t want it, and quite frankly, don’t care what happens to Iraq because we have are own problems right here at home. This was Bush’s war not America’s war. Iraq did not attack us and the truth will never be told even though it is staring you right in the face.
We need Impeachments in order to set things right. Impeachments with no pardons available. War crimes, lies and attacks against the state in the form of abridging the constitution. This must not go unanswered.
November 6th, 2006 at 4:54 pmCat, I’m really not sure where you got the idea that most “baby boomers” support the war. That’s not supported by poll data. Please remember that it was baby boomers who stood up to the industrial military complex the last time we had a major war of choice. We were the ones who were getting pulled out of our classrooms and sent to Viet Nam against our will through the draft. We were the ones who put a million people on the street. I haven’t seen anything even close to that kind of dedication from young people today and I guess that’s because there’s no more draft. You have boomers to thank for that.
November 6th, 2006 at 5:06 pmWow. South Dakota going into scary right-wing stuff here. Right-wing is fine, but they’re about to fall off the end.
No abortions even if the woman is in danger… and now a gay-marraige ban.
November 6th, 2006 at 6:14 pmthought this was funny… the reply to my email inquiry about my deleted messages:
Comment moderation is automatic. We can take a look but there is no evil monkey deleting your comments.
“automatic”… hmmmm…
November 6th, 2006 at 9:11 pmLOL, katy, I vote for the evil monkey.
November 6th, 2006 at 9:32 pmWait, that would be Bush, wouldn’t it?
November 6th, 2006 at 9:32 pmi’m so not sure what it means, jpark…
i’m guessing that my 2 emails, in ALL CAPS, during the earlier “troubles” (which i was unaware of at the time) didn’t set well with the moderators… that reply was definitely defensive though… and funny…
aw jeez… now i see the 2nd one is gone again… wtf…
November 6th, 2006 at 10:06 pmi liked the 2nd one better…
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#87 Hmm, are the moderators becoming Bushlike (that would be drunk on unitary power)? I hope not, this is one of the only blogs I can stand.
November 6th, 2006 at 10:14 pmjpark, many of the commenters here have accused TP of such…
November 6th, 2006 at 10:26 pmi dunno… but if the “moderation is automatic” it might rule out bias…
i just can’t get a grip on what the regulations are exactly…
especially why some comments post, then vanish, then reappear, then…
it’s goofy…
#89 I hope TP tells us exactly what posts are ok. To tell you the truth I have had many posts that got through that probably shouldn’t. If it is the spam-filter that is different. Mr. Evil’s post in a different thread may have been filtered out because of the repetition of Ass. I am not a fan of alliteration so I wouldn’t mind if that were banned :)
November 6th, 2006 at 10:32 pmand now the 2nd one is back… @#74… how long?…
cue “twilight zone” theme…
someone/thing is f’n with me/us… whatever…
November 6th, 2006 at 10:45 pmEwww, birth canal, I wish they would have banned it!! :P
November 6th, 2006 at 10:48 pmyea, i know… you ought to try HAVING one! …
it was in the first comment @#62 also, and it’s still there…
and, guess what?! #74 is gone again! wooo-ooo-oooooooooo…
time for daily show…
November 6th, 2006 at 10:58 pmheh… for anyone curious as to what “having one” refers to,
November 7th, 2006 at 12:07 amjust before that comment, jpark said something like, “birth canal, yech…” and in minutes it was gone…
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