VIDEO: Bush Admits He Lied About Rumsfeld For Political Purposes
VIDEO: Bush Admits He Lied About Rumsfeld For Political Purposes
Last week, President Bush unequivocally told a group of reporters that Defense Secretary Rumsfeld and Vice President Cheney would “remain with him until the end of his presidency, extending a job guarantee to two of the most-vilified members of his administration.” Bush said, “Both those men are doing fantastic jobs and I strongly support them.”
Today, he announced Rumsfeld is resigning and being replaced by former CIA Director Robert Gates. At the press conference, Bush said that “the only way to answer that question, and get it on to another question, was to give you [the reporters] that answer.” Bush admitted that he had talked to Rumsfeld about resigning and was actively searching for his replacement at the time. Watch it:
Transcript:
REPORTER: Last week you told us Secretary Rumsfeld would be staying on. Why is the timing right now, and how much does it have to do with the election results?
BUSH: You and Hunt and Keil came into the Oval Office and asked me to question one week before the campaign. Basically, are you going to do something about Rumsfeld and the Vice President? The reason why is I did not want to make a major decision in the final days of the campaign. The only way to answer that question, and get it on to another question, was to give you that answer. The truth of the matter is as well, that is one reason I gave the answer. The other reason why is I had not had a chance to visit with Bob Gates yet. I had not had my final conversation with Don Rumsfeld yet at that point. I had been talking with Don Rumsfeld over a period of time about fresh perspectives. He likes to call it fresh eyes.
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So does that mean that if the election went the other way, no change would have been made?
November 8th, 2006 at 1:40 pmThis can’t possibly be true….Bush lied?
November 8th, 2006 at 1:41 pmAnybody find it even more difficult to listen to Mr. Bush today?
November 8th, 2006 at 1:42 pmwow TP is on it today!
good job guys! :)
but… i think I miss the trolls already. and their silly deluded barking. what shall we do now for mindless entertainment?? Oh! whats on Fox?
November 8th, 2006 at 1:42 pmHe’s just a mess. He’s put his foot in his mouth plenty of times in the last fifteen minutes alone.
November 8th, 2006 at 1:42 pmThe first admission in a long line of “forgive me, don’t impeach me” attempts.
November 8th, 2006 at 1:43 pmThat explaination makes Kerry’s “voted for before I voted against” almost understandable.
November 8th, 2006 at 1:43 pmWhat’s the news on Cheney? He is on a “hunting trip,” right?
November 8th, 2006 at 1:43 pmDouchbaggery
November 8th, 2006 at 1:44 pmSo he’s telling us he lied about Donald “Duck!” Rumsfeld and “Dick” Cheney.
Now Rumsfeld is out.
Somebody help me here: Is Bush telling us that Cheney is out, too?
November 8th, 2006 at 1:44 pmBush never lies.
Bush never makes mistakes.
Bush is the greatest President in the history of Time.
Bush is God.
Yeah right….
November 8th, 2006 at 1:45 pm#6
November 8th, 2006 at 1:47 pmagreed… there will be a lot of groveling going on in the first 100 days. Im settign my Tivo
I dunno. Sounds like he could’ve made that “admission” today because he knows he looks like an idiot for saying that last week. Either way he’s a lying SOS.
November 8th, 2006 at 1:48 pmDon’t worry, the troll are about. Your having your day today so enjoy. But now you can’t blame everything on the Republicans. First thing goes wrong and we will say “It is because the Dems have the house” :)
It is nice to throw stones at someone on top. But now come the responsibility part. You might have been better blaming the Republicans for two more years.
P.S. Nothing explains Kerry. Except for him hurting himself to get out of the war and now hurting himself to get out of running in 2008.
November 8th, 2006 at 1:49 pmTime for another Crawford vacation!
November 8th, 2006 at 1:50 pmDid you hear what he was saying about Karl Rove? “I worked harder on the campaign trail than he did, obviously.” Doesn’t soung good at all for the Wonderboy. :-))
November 8th, 2006 at 1:50 pmIt’s not lying. It’s stragerery.
November 8th, 2006 at 1:50 pmThe next 2 years will firm up the “worst president ever” status GWB has worked so hard to earn.
November 8th, 2006 at 1:50 pmAnybody find it even more difficult to listen to Mr. Bush today?
Comment by JustJohn — November 8, 2006 @ 1:42 pm
JJ: I don’t find it difficult to listen to him today; quite the opposite — Georgie doesn’t even matter anymore, so it’s quite easy to listen to him. It’s sort of like watching the Wizard of Oz after Toto pulls the curtain back — he keeps carrying on like he’s the great and powerful Oz, but he’s just a little pathetic creature now; there ain’t no wizard there anymore…
November 8th, 2006 at 1:51 pmI thought that Rummy resigned twice before and Bush said no. After the election Bush decided to accept Rummy’s latest resignation? Give me a break.
November 8th, 2006 at 1:51 pmI’m not sure where this will fit but I have to say it. It looks like Cheney’s recent hunting trophy won’t be the only lame duck in the Whitehouse.
November 8th, 2006 at 1:52 pmThis just in: Bush claims that he really voted for Kerry in 2004!
November 8th, 2006 at 1:52 pmI agree #10. Cheney could be about to spend more time with his family.
November 8th, 2006 at 1:55 pmBush lied straigh-faced!? I can’t believe that!
Please don’t tell me he lied about Iraq’s WMDs too!
Oh, the humanity!
November 8th, 2006 at 1:55 pm#19
November 8th, 2006 at 1:56 pmGreat analogy!
[…] So Rumsfeld is gone and the Democrats are still complaining. Bush apparently did not reveal his thoughts on the subject to some reporters last week and now Democrats are saying he lied. What’s new? […]
November 8th, 2006 at 1:57 pmAnyone seen Jason Hendler? Exley? Mighty Aphrodite?
November 8th, 2006 at 1:57 pmI’m about as anti-bush as you can get. But I think post and line of argument is a waste of time. Bush could have worded his support less positively emphatically, but when a change is coming, within the private or public sector, the answer is “no change is coming” until the change comes.
There are bigger issues and fish to fry. I suggest we not run around splitting hairs.
Don’t forget that Bill Clinton told the American women that he had no relations with “that woman.” He lied as well. Clinton lied about a personal matter. Bush about a policy matter. But from a political perspective, I can’t see any politician shaking the tree one week before an election. It’s not reasonable.
November 8th, 2006 at 1:58 pmMore than that, he has admitted that he lies whenever it is politically expedient, q.e.d always
November 8th, 2006 at 1:58 pmHappy Guy said:
First thing goes wrong and we will say “It is because the Dems have the house†:)
What happens when this Congress get’s it right? What will you do then?
PS: We have the Senate, too. Sucks to be you today.
November 8th, 2006 at 1:59 pmAnybody find it even more difficult to listen to Mr. Bush today?
Comment by JustJohn
Minus that smirk it is MUCH easier to listen to him.
November 8th, 2006 at 2:02 pmAnd GDumbya didn‘t talk to Rums”failed” and Gates before he talked to them . . . and he talked to them before he didn’t talk to them.
Not so much of a flip-flop as an outright lie to cover up the fact that GDumbya himself is irrelevant in this decision. Poppy and his cronies have been laying track to get the moron off the hook for months now. It’s just like all the money Poppy had his friends throw at GDumbya back when he was doing cocaine and drilling dry holes in Texas. This one is a little more complicated, though.
One big piece of it, however, was to engineer Gates as the DoD Secretary. Now they have an inside guy to drive the decision they have already made. It used to be that Dick the Prick Cheney was the “inside man” but he has phucked up so badly that Poppy fired him and hired Gates.
November 8th, 2006 at 2:03 pmPoliticians lie. big shock. I’m sure the Dem’s don’t. ROFLMAO
November 8th, 2006 at 2:04 pmBush lies about everything, so nothing Dubya does is surprising!
November 8th, 2006 at 2:06 pmBush is toast.
Well, he’d better be.
November 8th, 2006 at 2:07 pmanyone keeping track of all the presidential lies? It makes one’s head spin. Hopefully, the new House will hold this behavior unacceptable and will hold him accountable for lying.
November 8th, 2006 at 2:07 pmHappy Guy said:
First thing goes wrong and we will say “It is because the Dems have the house†:)
Do you know the buck still stops with the President? Blame whoever you wish.
November 8th, 2006 at 2:07 pmFascinating how all of the paid trolls have vanished, isn’it it??
November 8th, 2006 at 2:08 pmYeah, let’s hope the Dems were lying for political purposes when they said they wouldn’t persue impeachment.
November 8th, 2006 at 2:08 pmBush lied for political purposes? Color me shocked! I tell you. LOL!!!
November 8th, 2006 at 2:08 pmDepends on what the definition of “is” is.
Chimpeach!!
November 8th, 2006 at 2:09 pmYou stupid liberals don’t know your a_s from a hole in the ground. Bush didn’t lie, he simply told the liberal media what they needed to hear at the time. You dumbacrats always make a mountailn out of a mole hill. Get a life!!!
November 8th, 2006 at 2:09 pmFox News. D’oh !!! :
http://news.google.com/ news?hl=en&lr=&q=%22Rumsfeld%20Has%20No%20Plans%20to%20Step%20Down%2C%20Despite%20Democrat%20Gains%22%20…%20FOX%20News&btnG=Search&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn
November 8th, 2006 at 2:09 pmDon’t worry, the troll are about. Your having your day today so enjoy. But now you can’t blame everything on the Republicans. First thing goes wrong and we will say “It is because the Dems have the house†:)
So after all the time you’ve spent here posting that the republicans are the best thing since sliced bread, now you admit everything can indeed be blamed on the republicans. Those in power do bear the brunt of the blame if there is blame to be leveled. If democrats don’t change the direction this country is going in for the better, then they will bear the brunt of the blame. That’s the way it works.
It is nice to throw stones at someone on top. But now come the responsibility part. You might have been better blaming the Republicans for two more years.
And you’re quite familiar with throwing stones; aren’t you. Democrats are quite aware of the uphill battle they face in fixing the complete mess republicans have wrought. I’d rather have democrats in office attempting to affect change for the better for our country than have “stay the course” republicans continuing to drive our country into the ground.
P.S. Nothing explains Kerry. Except for him hurting himself to get out of the war and now hurting himself to get out of running in 2008.
Comment by Happy Guy — November 8, 2006 @ 1:49 pm
Nothing explains why you are still talking about John Kerry. You can go ahead and drop your republican-approved 2004 presidential election talking points. They didn’t serve any purpose then, and certainly don’t serve any purpose now.
So, HappyGuy, you’re a sad guy now. Pity.
November 8th, 2006 at 2:09 pmI actually felt sorry for him today. Obviously, he reads all of his presentation but when he goes “off the cuff”, I am on pins & needles as he hems and haws and says ridiculous things. I fear that leaders of other countries may be watching him squirm and “um” and otherwise have total brain synapse occurring. It’s very sad to observe, I think and, in direct contrast to Nancy Pelosi’s most articulate presentation and dialogue with the press just before his, it was most embarrassing for this white house.
November 8th, 2006 at 2:10 pmGOP “talking points” are so passe and insignificant now….but the trolls will continue to try to spin them. They’re as pathetic as those whom they are attempting to prop up.
November 8th, 2006 at 2:12 pmI suspect impeachment proceedings will be just around the corner.
November 8th, 2006 at 2:13 pmWhy are Bush lover trolls on TP threads today? I thought they would be getting drunk on booze to drown out their dispair or jumping off bridges to end their pain > lol.
November 8th, 2006 at 2:13 pmIt’s wonderful to see this mandate from the majority of the american people. It sends the message loud and clear that absolutely nothing this administration has done is acceptable to the people. Bye, Bye Donnie!
November 8th, 2006 at 2:14 pmAbsolutely there are bigger fish to fry. Democrats need to be productive, proactive, and make sure they are perceived that way. Here’s the agenda they need to succeed and regain the presidency:
1) Balanced Budget Amendment to the constitution.
November 8th, 2006 at 2:16 pma) Eliminate tax breaks for oil, gas, and pharma industries.
b) As much as it pains us, leave tax breaks for the richest 1% alone.
2) Proper oversight of the Iraq war now, but don’t remove troops until after the 2008 election.
3) Work overtime on homeland security, with a hunk of “border controls” red meat for the conservatives.
Dear Happy Guy,
November 8th, 2006 at 2:18 pmWhy don’t you now get off your FAT ASS, roll up your sleeves and help this country succeed instead of sitting in the weeds waiting to get your little digs in. When your “team” was in power running this country into the ground you did nothing except hone your “witty” little jabs. Now that a new group of Americans is going to try to clean up the mess you and your dysfunctional friends have made, you will do nothing again…..except wait for a mistake so you can bleat and finger point. You are dispicable. I hold you in contempt.
Grow up and become part of the solution ……..you are now MOST DEFINATELY part of the general problem ……………
This is such a stupid headline from ThinkProgress.
Good Grief - let’s focus on what needs to happen.
It feels really small to call him a “liar” at this point. It was a strategic decision, and I, for one, can see the sense in it.
Let’s look ahead and take the high road!
November 8th, 2006 at 2:21 pmIt feels really small to call him a “liar†at this point. It was a strategic decision, and I, for one, can see the sense in it.
Let’s look ahead and take the high road!
Comment by Thomas — November 8, 2006 @
Unlike a certain party who wasted millions of tax dollars dwelving into the private affair between two consenting adults, and who this day, still won’t let go
November 8th, 2006 at 2:27 pm#44…
November 8th, 2006 at 2:27 pmI totally agree with your observations, however I can’t share the feeling of sympathy for this manipulative, condescending and completely inadequate excuse for a world leader.
I have cringed enough over the past 6 years for his inarticulate, uneducated, false and pathetic utterances. He is the embodiment of the dumbed down American his corporate masters seek to acheive with their ‘Kapitalist breeding program’.
Can’t wait for you to crawl into your hole in Crawford, Dubious, and I will cheerfully volunteer to help build an anti-emigration fence around that chunk of real estate.
Let’s look ahead and take the high road!
Comment by Thomas — November 8, 2006
To the political Hill of Skulls!
Some one still thinks republicans can be convinced that co-operation is in their best interests.
November 8th, 2006 at 2:29 pmHe did lie… who cares why?
Its really not THAT big of a deal, but he did lie. Why did he even bring it up last week? Its just one more thing that proves the (now old) addage that anything this administration says, you can count on the exact opposite being true.
Well, whatever… This has been such a great day! In a way, I feel like I can finally catch my breath :)
November 8th, 2006 at 2:30 pmtrolls : the other, other white meat. they’re just so cute i could pinch them!!
#50 - not 100% agreeing, but a big Yes and Amen to the spirit of the post. There is much cleaning up to do, unfortunately, and they’re already trying to sieze the framing and spinning of the election result. “whew, neo-cons gone - we didn’t like them either, only good-cons left around here, blah blah blah.” We can’t let them make this election their absolution - they’re still on the hook, they’re still not doing a damned thing that’s not for their own benefit, and they’re still responsible for a hell of a lot of wrong-doing that cannot go unpunished. Those matters aside, the D congress will have to set policy to rights in ways that benefit a broad swath of the electorate.
November 8th, 2006 at 2:31 pmI thought it was interesting his justification for lying — that he didn’t want to inject a change into the “War on Terror” just before the election, BECAUSE such changes shouldn’t be dictated by political timing. I laughed at that, since it’s exactly what he was doing by not declaring in before the election.
Bush is such a two-faced double speaker liar, it make me sick to think of him representing America to other nations. He stand for the worst and crassest features of America — greed, authoritarianism, and arrogance. I’m glad more people are finally waking up to reality…
November 8th, 2006 at 2:36 pmIt feels really small to call him a “liar†at this point. It was a strategic decision,—-Thomas
Hate to break it to you, but a lie is a lie, no matter the excuse.
November 8th, 2006 at 2:37 pmBut we understand here the “moral republicans” was just a politically expedient LIE also. We do not expect Republicans to tell the truth any longer.
It really should be news when Bush tells the truth now…this guys is such a freakin liar
November 8th, 2006 at 2:37 pmI want all those unwarranted medals of honor, presidential medals, etc….given to Tenet, Dumsfeld, etc…….given back and struck down!!
November 8th, 2006 at 2:39 pmIt should also be news when Bush THINKS before he opens his mouth
November 8th, 2006 at 2:39 pm#6– I so agree with you.
November 8th, 2006 at 2:43 pmBush didn’t lie, he simply told the liberal media what they needed to hear at the time.
Comment by Mark — November 8, 2006 @ 2:09 pm
Umm…. That’s what lying is.. You tell someone what they want to hear instead of what is the truth and thats.. say it with me: LYING.
You did pick up on some grammar when you were a kid, didn’t you?
November 8th, 2006 at 2:48 pmMark: “You stupid liberals don’t know your a_s from a hole in the ground.”
Poor little Markie. Stamping his feet and clenching his fists, holding back tears… He’s having a bad day.
November 8th, 2006 at 2:50 pmAnyone heard from Exley?
November 8th, 2006 at 2:50 pmDo you smell something? … *sniff* … Oh, yeah, smells like burning pants.
Do you think this blatant admission of a lie will get as much airplay as Kerry’s faux-pas about education and getting stuck in Iraq?
November 8th, 2006 at 2:53 pmDaddy bails out Lil’ Boots yet again.
November 8th, 2006 at 3:08 pmThe irony is that if Bush had fired Rumsfeld last week, he would have kept the Senate and maybe even the House.
November 8th, 2006 at 3:14 pm[…] Ummmm… no. Apparently not. Or at least, Bush says otherwise. Here’s a transcript from Think Progress (who also has the video): REPORTER: Last week you told us Secretary Rumsfeld would be staying on. Why is the timing right now, and how much does it have to do with the election results? […]
November 8th, 2006 at 3:20 pmDid anyone catch Bush’s dig at Rove? A reporter asked him something about the metrics for the reading contest that he’s having with Rove. Bush said that he hadn’t had much time to read lately because of the campaign, and that apparently Rove wasn’t as busy as he was.
November 8th, 2006 at 3:22 pm[…] With a highlight reel like that, it’ll be one heckuva slideshow at the retirement party. More thoughts from around the blogosphere. I wonder if Bush knew when the retirement party was going to be held? Even if he did, he’d probably lie about it to the press, because you know, it’s a matter of national security, not some silly partisan game. Don’t you love it when Bush lies to the media, then explains to them how and why he lied to them? “The only way to answer that question and to get you onto another question was to [lie and] give you that answer *throat clearing nervous chuckle*.” […]
November 8th, 2006 at 3:23 pmI just can hardly believe what I’m seeing. Still I’m going to celebrate Rummydone tonight.
November 8th, 2006 at 3:25 pmUm, but wouldn’t it have helped the R’s to have announced the resignation before the elections, to show that it was time for new ideas on Iraq or whatever?
November 8th, 2006 at 3:25 pmA politician lie?! Unheard of!
November 8th, 2006 at 3:29 pm[…] http://thinkprogress.org/ 2006/ 11/ 08/ bush-lied-rumsfeld/ Related articles:Is the Bush Administration Distorting Intelligence Again?Worst…President…EverA Pathetic Day in HistoryRatchet up the fear factor…It’s Election SeasonWorst…search…ever! Apple […]
November 8th, 2006 at 3:29 pmWeird thing–I just noticed while watching that video that his Texas accent has almost disappeared.
November 8th, 2006 at 3:29 pmMSNBC commenting on Rummy. You can hear people chanting “hey, hey. goodbye”, the anchor even comments on it. Too funny! Rummy if anything he was loved!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWwspZJnXSQ
November 8th, 2006 at 3:30 pmHow about this… When taxes are raised or cuts are repealed, people who voted for Democrats are the only ones to pay the increase. People who voted Republican are exempt from them. It would be a tough case to prove, but it seems as though everyone wants to talk about honesty. I watched Charles Schumer state that he would repeal tax cuts for people making $50,000 or more. I fall in that category and would not appreciate more of my hard earned money being wasted. Any opinions on this?
November 8th, 2006 at 3:47 pmDon’t worry, the troll are about. Your having your day today so enjoy. But now you can’t blame everything on the Republicans. First thing goes wrong and we will say “It is because the Dems have the house†:)
Like we didn’t expect that from you lying sacks of maloderous dog shit.
And you even admit it. Go figure.
November 8th, 2006 at 3:49 pmclinton never lied
November 8th, 2006 at 3:49 pm#59, Lilah- You are smart! Your comment is dead-on.
November 8th, 2006 at 3:51 pmHe tries to cover-up his mistake near the end by saying that he hadn’t had a chance to finalize it yet… that was B.S. He spoke the “truth” in the beginning.
Hey Flint and Dynamo! Congratulations on your big win yesterday. We’ll be enjoying months, and perhaps years, of watching the fallout as YEARS of Republican corruption and failure are exposed to the light of day and the public’s judgment. Please stick around and enjoy it together with us, in a bipartisan way.
November 8th, 2006 at 3:57 pmHere’s a question for those who think bush’s lie ‘isn’t a big deal’. If he’ll lie about something that ‘isn’t a big deal’, what won’t he lie about? Is it OK for him to lie whenever he deems it necessary for political purposes? Where’s the line at? When would it not be OK for him to lie?
November 8th, 2006 at 3:57 pmALWAYS remember Bush is a lying sociopath. NEVER believe what he says.
Seriously, sociopaths don’t have internal limits as normal people do. It’s that simple. Be careful.
November 8th, 2006 at 3:57 pm80. Do you prefer not being told how much more money your govt. will spend (Iraq) and just keep pushing that off for a later date. That’s credit card debt times 10,000. Here’s an idea. be fiscally responsible. This admin. has created 500 + billion in debt for Iraq, expanded the govt. (homeland security) to largest it’s ever been and your sorry ass is pissing about “oh woe is me”. Why weren’t you screaming about Bush and company when they were banging the war gongs. Where the hell do you think that money is coming from.
Quit your bitching and start being part of the solution.
November 8th, 2006 at 3:59 pmFascinating how all of the paid trolls have vanished, isn’it it??
Comment by Isis — November 8, 2006 @ 2:08 pm
Yeah, you get the quality of Troll you pay for.
All we have left are real goobers.
November 8th, 2006 at 4:00 pmwait a minute flint- i misunderstood previous post - shouldn’t have lumped you together with dynamo - sorry
November 8th, 2006 at 4:04 pmOK, boys (and girl). Now you’ve got the wheel. Let’s see what a great job you all do driving for the next two years.
November 8th, 2006 at 4:06 pmWell ,is anyone surprised ? The guy is a liar of the highest order.
November 8th, 2006 at 4:06 pmIt’s as if Bush (and the trolls) believe he simply HAD TO LIE, that there was no other possible response. How about this:
Reporter: President Bush, are you going to do something about Rumsfeld and the Vice President?
Bush: If and when I make any changes in my Cabinet or the Vice President’s role, you will be informed. Until then, I don’t have anything to tell you. My administration’s policies and the officials who carry them out are not changing at this time.
Gee, now wasn’t that easy?!
November 8th, 2006 at 4:15 pmCaption Contest:
“Do fries come with this sh*T?”
November 8th, 2006 at 4:20 pmwas that an attempt to say: i’m sorry p p pleeeeeease forgive me. while i keep lying.
ya know sorry is as sorry does. and he is a sorry piece of shiiiiite
November 8th, 2006 at 4:22 pm[…] Several reporters questioned how Bush could pledge to stick by Rumsfeld last week and dump him this week. Bush’s answers basically boiled down to what I said last week was just politics, because of the election. But in another part of the questions he said “I’m still going to try to speak plainly about what I think are the important priorities of the country.” OK. […]
November 8th, 2006 at 4:22 pmGeorge Bush is a liar!
November 8th, 2006 at 4:24 pmHe lied? But…but…what will we tell the children?
November 8th, 2006 at 4:25 pmWATB.
November 8th, 2006 at 4:42 pmOh please, you fools. Of course he’s not going to do this before the election. It would have demoralized the base. That’s basic politics. A Democrat would have done the same thing. You keep some thing quiet until after an election, then you drop the shoe.
You think Clinton would have pardoned Mark Rich BEFORE the 2000 election? NFW.
November 8th, 2006 at 4:44 pm#97 That reminds me of when Bush said he lied during the 2000 campaign about his DWI ticket because he didn’t want the Bush twins to know about it. Too funny that the Bush twins were subsequently caught trying to get a drink in a bar with fake IDs after the election. Lies are lies. You can’t protect your character or be a good leader by lying in any shape or form. Duh!
November 8th, 2006 at 4:45 pmGeez Andy, I wonder how bad the republican turnout would have been if he did tell us all before the election. Don’t republicans feel betrayed by this?
November 8th, 2006 at 4:47 pm“I watched Charles Schumer state that he would repeal tax cuts for people making $50,000 or more. I fall in that category and would not appreciate more of my hard earned money being wasted. Any opinions on this?”
Yes. $100 million dollar bridges to nowhere. Millions (billions?) wasted on the Gulf Coast. BILLIONS wasted on Iraq and private contractors. As a Republican you helped enable all that waste. Now you don’t want to pay for any of it. Democrats are going to try and balance the budget and pay down this awful debt. But you don’t want any part of it because YOU voted Republican! Do you run your private affairs, your home, your family budget the same way? Are you expecting to use up all your assets and leave your children and grandchildren with the debts from doing business that way? Or are you now advocating a much smaller government? Why now and not earlier? Its not as though you haven’t had a chance to see where things were going. Remember the Clinton years and those balanced budgets. Did you notice how the Republicans in the House and Senate were all for balanced budgets when he was President? Then went hog wild once they controlled all branches of government. If you aren’t willing to help pay for the mess you enabled then why should I, or anybody else, listen to ANYTHING you have to say?
Those are some of my thoughts. Let me know your ideas for moving forward and cleaning up the mess.
November 8th, 2006 at 4:49 pmLooks like the Chimp just figured out Rovian politics (stick with Rummy and lie about everything) has reached its limit and he just threw him under the train…..
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November 8th, 2006 at 4:55 pm#99 Oh please, you fools. Of course he’s not going to do this before the election. It would have demoralized the base. That’s basic politics.
Oh please, that’s BASE politics–as in the lowest form of politics. If such an announcement before the election would have demoralized the base, how does being lied to THEN and hearing this announcement NOW make you, “the base,” feel???
Ironic: al Qaeda means “the base.” I guess all politics are local.
November 8th, 2006 at 4:56 pm“He likes to call it ‘fresh eyes.’ Rummy is so cute. Gosh I’m gonna miss ‘fresh eyes’ Rummy.”
November 8th, 2006 at 4:59 pmIt’s impossible. He’s a Christian. Christians can’t lie. See if he lied then that would make him a two faced hypocrite. It would mean that he is not actually Christian or ‘christ like’ and simply used that as a ploy to get support from all the mass blind zombies that believe God is speaking to him directly. NO, Bush lie.. impossible. Hmm.. I guess if he’s a liar, maybe he lied about WMD’s, or about proof to go to war, heck.. if he did all that we’d probably want to impeach the idiot.. I just can’t believe that this administration would cheat or lie..
November 8th, 2006 at 5:00 pmAccording to Pew, more people vote against Bush yesterday than against Clinton in 1994 (http://pewresearch.org/obdeck/?ObDeckID=88). Let’s see we hear that mentioned at all.
November 8th, 2006 at 5:03 pm“There are the lies we know, the lies we don’t know, and the lies we don’t know that we don’t know.” –D. Rumsfeld
“…if you will.” –R. Cheney
November 8th, 2006 at 5:05 pmSo now that he has cut and run on Rummy, is Dubya a liar, a flip-flopper or both?
November 8th, 2006 at 5:16 pmHow easily he lies - he knows he lies, he admits he lies, and that’s that.
Tell me something I don’t know.
Lying is a prerequisite for admission to this Bush cabal.
#108 CZ-1
November 8th, 2006 at 5:18 pmYou quoted from Rummy himself - did you hear Bush quote Rummy today also.
He said there are unknowns you know, and unknowns you don’t know, etc. (however was that convoluted statement).
I don’t think it was a joke.
Sobering thought - what if the neocons really do succeed in destroying the Repuglican party - then the NWO really will have a one-party system -
November 8th, 2006 at 5:19 pmdon’t trust dem Dems !
wow… after all the other lies i thought bush could never lie again
November 8th, 2006 at 5:20 pmGive it a break - can you imagine the headlines if a week ago GW announced he was looking for Rummy’s replacemnt - of course then it would have all been political and collectively he would have been jumped on for that.
Let’s remember that the war in Iraq was won decisievly - it’s the recontruction and occupation post war that hasn’t been all that sharp - not sure if its the DOD or the state department that should be bearing the brunt of most of those mistakes - Irrespective of the fact that 15 of 18 provinces have it better than they ever did.
In terms of casualties, this has been the lowest impact war for the US since the beginnign of our country. We make movies about 1 single engagement in the Pacific that cost twice as many lives in about 3 weeks as Iraq has in 3 years. We couldn’t win WWII over again if we had to.
November 8th, 2006 at 5:24 pm#110 Yep, I heard it a while ago:
Another, very appropriate Rumsfeld quote:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Donald_Rumsfeld
November 8th, 2006 at 5:29 pm“You’re doing a heck of a job, Brownie!” Cheney and Rumsfeld will be with him to the end. Hey Dubya, it’s OVER!!!!!!
November 8th, 2006 at 5:32 pmI can’t believe a conservative christian upstanding man like Bush would lie. It just blows my mind. It really crushes me to find out that he would ever lie. This is the first time it had ever occured to me that a Christian could even lie.
November 8th, 2006 at 5:33 pmDan M.,
Then you shouldn’t feel frightened of enlisting if it’s so “[low] impact.”
November 8th, 2006 at 5:35 pmThe transcript doesn’t match the video - it is wrong in 2 key ways:
1) Transcript omits Bush saying “AND MY ANSWER WAS NO, THEY’RE GOING TO STAY ON”
2) Transcript has “make” a major decision when Bush said “INJECT” a major decision. That the decision to replace Rumsfeld was already made is what Bush lied about last week to the 3 reporters in the Oval Office, including the reporter asking the question in this video.
Other minor errors, too.
Corrected transcript is as follows, with missing words in CAPS, and key parts from above in CAPS:
REPORTER: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. Last week you told us Secretary Rumsfeld would be staying on. Why is the timing right now FOR THIS, and how much does it have to do with the election results?
November 8th, 2006 at 5:38 pmBUSH: You and Hunt and Keil came into the Oval Office and HUNT asked me THE question one week before the campaign. Basically, are you going to do something about Rumsfeld and the Vice President? AND MY ANSWER WAS NO, THEY’RE GOING TO STAY ON. The reason why is I did not want to INJECT a major decision ABOUT THIS WAR in the final days of the campaign. The only way to answer that question, and get YOU on to another question, was to give you that answer. The truth of the matter is as well, that is one reason I gave the answer. BUT The other reason why is I had not had a chance to visit with Bob Gates yet. I had not had my final conversation with Don Rumsfeld yet at that point. I had been talking with Don Rumsfeld over a period of time about fresh perspectives. He likes to call it fresh eyes.
87 & 102: I did vote Republican and I do agree with the war in Iraq. Do I think that we can pay the debt down (i.e. Recent deficit figures cutting it half) with what we are already taking in in taxes? Yes, I do. I agree with the war in Iraq solely on the position that the majority of the cultures present in Iraq understand one thing and one thing only. Force. They don’t want to talk, negotiate, or have a caucus. They are in it to kill or be killed. If we can’t handle that, we have become soft. If we don’t do the killing, they will surely do it for us and to us. As for balancing the budget, the budget surplus of the late 90’s was created by the technology boom and when it busted in 1999, lo and behold. Fiscal responsibility and moral responsibility are two distinct entities. Sometimes one has to suffer to meet the other. Which one would you prefer to suffer? As for how I run my family… Do you have children in public schools? If so, I pay for them in some way. I do not have children, yet I contribute to a failing educational system set up to socialize our society and raise the medicated generation. Let me pay taxes on the services that I utilize instead of contributing to helping the slow keep up with the rest of the pack. The only thing that ideal achieves is to make the herd mediocre. Two-party infighting will never accomplish anything. It is going to take a leader who is independent of their own base to truly make this nation move forward.
November 8th, 2006 at 5:38 pm#113 Dan M.
Give us a break. As I said in post #92, Bush was not required to lie in order to achieve his political goals. He could have made an appropriate statement without lying.
Let’s remember that the war in Iraq was won decisievly Okay, then we’ve achieved victory, and we can leave the Iraqis to their own country. Instead, through Bush & Rumsfeld, we have the blood of perhaps half a million Iraqis on our hands. Are you proud of that? Is that what Jesus would do?
We couldn’t win WWII over again if we had to. If we bombed, firebombed, and nuclear bombed like we did in WWII, then we could indeed win WWII over again. That was total war; that was a terroristic war.
Point of fact: WE NEVER HAD TO GO TO WAR AGAINST IRAQ. IT’S ALL BASED ON LIES, AND IT’S MADE THE SITUATION, THE TERRORIST THREAT, AND THE WORLD IN GENERAL MUCH WORSE.
November 8th, 2006 at 5:42 pm113. First of all, it’s all political. Bush could have helped his party by dumping Rummy before the election but he had painted himselft too far into a corner.
Secondly, It has never been declared a War and you are perpetuating a falsehood (ie lie). The military has been continually used as a police force (comparisons to Viet Nam whether wanted or not are accurate). And this police force is being directed by the Sec. Def. wo your were correct when you said not sure, you just didn’t know how much you were not sure of.
And lastly, here’s a little quiz for you. Name the last time an occupying force was successful in it’s occupation (ie completed the tasks they set out to do). Go ahead give it some time. Hint, it’s not been in your lifetime.
To think we can whip up democracy (Plan pushed by the PNAC and Rummy’s a charter member) in Iraq was short sided and we all are paying the brunt.
I also have to disagree with your ill concieved thought that we couldn’t win WWII if we had to today. If our entire country could get behind the effort, that means true sacrifice (draft, gas and meat rationing and the like) we can accomplish anything. This admin (now -1) went in on the cheap without a true plan for completion. They couldn’t get the country behind them so they tried to scare us and guess what? We woke up.
I don’t have the exact answer to the occupying force question (go ahead and bash me for that, better yet go look it up)
November 8th, 2006 at 5:49 pmIf bush would have admitted that he was seeking a new Sec. Defense last week instead of saying there would be no changes for the rest of his term, he would have avoided the flak from four military newspapers, as well as increased ire of the public.
November 8th, 2006 at 5:55 pmWas he lying last week or was he lying today?
Bush? Lie? Oh, come on now. There’s no chance of that.
November 8th, 2006 at 5:58 pm/SarCASM off
re:113
I think the true crime of the Iraq war is how drastically we underestimated Saddam’s strategy and his Fedayeen fanatics. It seems plain now how deeply Saddam planned for a protracted insurgency. That plus de-Baathification equals our failure. I also think that if you poll those 18 provinces, they’d prefer not to be annexed by Iran and Syria as seems increasingly likely now.
November 8th, 2006 at 6:10 pmBush: Everything I said before was a lie. But come on, if I told you media folks the truth you would jump all over me. The lies are okay if they forward my political agenda. Vote Republican, and don’t believe what the Democrats say about _______ .
November 8th, 2006 at 6:11 pm119. You are twisted.
I agree with the war in Iraq solely on the position that the majority of the cultures present in Iraq understand one thing and one thing only. Force. They don’t want to talk, negotiate, or have a caucus. They are in it to kill or be killed. If we can’t handle that, we have become soft. If we don’t do the killing, they will surely do it for us and to us.
That’s worthy of sending our troops and billions of dollars for? You have more issues than National Geographic.
That money could have been much better spent in the States, including building up Homeland Security.
It’s time for you to put down the cup and walk away from the bar.
November 8th, 2006 at 6:11 pmThere is an amusing book called “On Bullshit,” by Harry Frankfort.
By Frankfort’s definition, Bush is not a liar. He is a Bullshitter, which is a time honored Texan tradition. A liar know that he is telling a lie, and understands the difference between true & false. A bullshitter just says whatever needs to be said at the time to accomplish his objective, without regard to right or wrong. This can be as simple as embellishing a funny story over beers, or as complicated as making things up to reporters and the American public. Look at his reaction when Bush was caught. No shame or remorse at all. That is a classic BULLSHITTER.
You can find Frankfort’ book at the following link. It is a great read.
http://web.archive.org/ web/ 20040212054855/ http:/ / www.jelks.nu/ misc/ articles/ bs.html
November 8th, 2006 at 6:14 pm#119 - they’re called eyeglasses - look into a pair.
November 8th, 2006 at 6:18 pmInteresting Posts here. One can only wonder about the republican ‘brain’ in general. But wait, there is an explanation for all this crap. Republicans are decendands of ‘Australopithecus Americanensis’. Not much going on inside the skull. While others successfully evolved into Homo Sapiens, Republicans for the most are still stuck in the ‘Homo Erectus’ gear. Hopefully America The Great woke up from the Republican Nightmare without being traumatized for the next 20 years. Because the shit the Republicans left on the carpet
of ‘The American House’ needs to be cleaned thoroughly. Not to mention the environmental, political and sociological mess these corrupt hypocrites have left not only to Decent Americans but all humans out there. My recommendation: If it is possible to seize the assets of terrorists, dictators and drugdealers, there is one way to get all the money back that was stolen from hardworking and honest people in this Country to be squandered in the ‘Republican Apparatus Corruptus’ on wars on drugs and terror. Seize the assets of the Bushistas, trial them and lock them up. Last but not least one question: If a guy get’s the death penalty for killing many people (No Matter Which Way), promoting torture and running a dictatorship with secret police and undisclosed detention camps, where does that leave the Greatest Leader Of All Times and his Goebbels, ah sorry, Rove?
Truefully Yours
Good Karma Needs To Be Earned
November 8th, 2006 at 6:20 pmIt is amazing that there are still people that don’t understand how much these politicians are lying to us. It is a good point to make that Bush is lying to the Americna people, not just to reporters. I want people to understand these things.
November 8th, 2006 at 6:21 pmPlease watch this video, please give it 5 stars and favorite it, and even give it a comment if you could. this will help it get seen by many more people Republican Dirty Tricks
Now, here’s my take on Rummy’s defection, courtesy of Newman and Redford.
November 8th, 2006 at 6:23 pmRe: #124
You know, that’s their business. Iraq and that region of the world is a case study in the Western powers messing up for decades. It was artificially constructed with three different groups to purposely build in a weakening tension. Now the Kurds want a Kurdistan, not Iraq. The Shiites are already in an alliance with their brethren in Iran. The Sunnis want the oil money and power they’ve grown accustomed to. AND IT AIN’T OUR FRICKEN COUNTRY. Let them sort it out. How would you like someone invading the United States and trying to tell us how to live together?
The Prime Directive was invented (in Gene Rodenberry’s head) because the people of the future FINALLY LEARNED that interferring with other cultures causes more damage than letting them figure it out themselves. That used to be the conservative position as well. Go figure.
November 8th, 2006 at 6:24 pm[…] Think Progress » VIDEO: Bush Admits He Lied About Rumsfeld For Political Purposes Last week, President Bush unequivocally told a group of reporters that Defense Secretary Rumsfeld and Vice President Cheney would “remain with him until the end of his presidency, extending a job guarantee to two of the most-vilified members of his admi (tags: Bush Rumsfeld liar) […]
November 8th, 2006 at 6:25 pmre:132
Good points.
November 8th, 2006 at 6:29 pmPeople forget that Bush was the president of the Texas Rangers, in sports the worst thing that can happen is when the owner gives you a vote of confidence. He did the same thing to Bobby Valentine.
November 8th, 2006 at 6:30 pmBush needs to head to the bush to find Dick Cheney from his hunting trip. He is either hiding from bad news or he has shot himself in the face.
November 8th, 2006 at 6:34 pmRumsfeld’s next national assignment should be to find Cheney. But even Rumsfeld needs to wear a bullet proof vest. Cheney might be in a bad mood.
Robert Gates. Is there no fresh Bush pimpage in DC?
Remember, diversion is the Rovian Way. What’s really going on?
C’mon now studentes….Psy Ops 101.
November 8th, 2006 at 6:42 pm[…] No mention of just what it is he’s secretly been longing to reform within the GOP, but as if on cue, Da Prez makes a similar admission: he was propping up Rumsfeld only until the elections were over. REPORTER: Last week you told us Secretary Rumsfeld would be staying on. Why is the timing right now, and how much does it have to do with the election results? […]
November 8th, 2006 at 6:44 pmRe: #137
I’m of two minds on that.
1. CRAP! You’re right! What are they up to??
2. Rove is overrated. He’s not perfect, he’s not infinitely smart, and he’s not involved in every aspect of the Bush administration.
I can’t decide which to go with… [cue the musical interlude from Jeopardy!]
November 8th, 2006 at 6:53 pmHey 119: how do you reconcile your selfish world view with your christianity?
November 8th, 2006 at 6:54 pmI cannot believe for a moment that our glorious codpiece-in-chief would lie.
November 8th, 2006 at 6:58 pmNope.
Not for a moment. Maybe continuously for the last six years, just not for one moment.
Can you say IMPEACHMENT?
November 8th, 2006 at 7:01 pmW’s record with the Texas Rangers.
November 8th, 2006 at 7:05 pmHe became a part owner in 1989
W - L
1989 83-79, Finished 4th in AL Western Division
1990 83-79, Finished 3rd in AL Western Division
1991 85-77, Finished 3rd in AL Western Division
1992 77-85, Finished 4th in AL Western Division
1993 86-76, Finished 2nd in AL Western Division
Then he was elected Governor of Texas.
Never finished better than 2nd in a fairly mediocre division.
What a stunning portrait of success.
[…] Think Progress » VIDEO: Bush Admits He Lied About Rumsfeld For Political Purposes (tags: politics) […]
November 8th, 2006 at 7:33 pmRumsfeld.
Gone Baby Gone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSxkAZcnMPA
November 8th, 2006 at 7:34 pmIn the coming weeks I’m sure we’ll be hard pressed to find a Republican who supported Rumsfeld.
November 8th, 2006 at 7:46 pmThis sounds so similar to the explanation that Bush kept reading MY PET GOAT, so that he would not scare the children. Give me a break! Does anyone believe a word out of this liar’s mouth any more? Why did he say he was going to keep Rumsfeld for two more years? Why that specific? Why not simplay say, “I have support in Don Rumsfeld.” This was Bush floating an ill concieved trial ballon, “Can I get one more mile out my stay the course BLUSTER”. Another bad Bush decision.
November 8th, 2006 at 7:49 pmProgressives should focus on substantive issues. Name-calling and show-boating does not serve our purpose.
Here is how I see it: In an attempt to “stay the course” and not project weakness, Rove and Bush chose to supress information relevant to the public’s vote. In my mind, this is a strategic choice. They hoped to maintain an aura of invincibility. Thankfully, the aura of invincibility was a sham.
With that said, it is refreshing to see Bush minus the arrogant smirk. The Emperor is naked.
November 8th, 2006 at 7:49 pmThis must mean that he plans on nominating Jim Baker to replace Cheney.
November 8th, 2006 at 7:56 pmSo just a bold faced lie again? And yet no one calls him on it.
November 8th, 2006 at 8:04 pmI think it more likely that Bush was lying today, not last week when he said Rumsfeld would stay. Only after the election results made it clear that the majority of the country rejected his Iraq policy did Bush decided to dump Rummy and put the blame for the entire screw-up on him.
November 8th, 2006 at 8:04 pm[…] After a sound thumping yesterday, today President Bush admitted that he lied last week when he represented that Rumsfeld would remain in his administration; Bush knew he would not. However, instead of presenting the truth to the American people, Bush did what he has consistently done throughout his tenure and lied to the American people for purely political gain. Had the American people known about Rumsfeld’s resignation and the yet-to-be-released NIE on Iraq and Foley reports, how many more seats would the Democrats have been gained? […]
November 8th, 2006 at 8:10 pmI know there is much pent up anger but let’s not gloat too much. The cycle begins where Dems will do good for a while, then become corrupt, then hatred will build across the aisle, then we finally vote the bastards out. Let’s get serious about raising the minimum wage, safeguarding our ports, getting fewer of our service folks killed over there. Let’s get back to regular corruption with money stuffed in the refrigerator. Enough of the pedophelia and sweet deals for Haliburton. Let’s focus on what is important and actually win some converts so a neo-con cabal cannot form again. The far left and far right have more in common than these “New American Century” folks. No more “we are already in a third world war” comments and let’s have real talk like CSPAN. Maybe there is common ground. We will lose some issues and win some issues. Pissing off the other side is bad business.
November 8th, 2006 at 8:11 pmDo I read, ‘Cheney’s next’ in there somewhere?
November 8th, 2006 at 8:14 pmYEEEEEEEHAAAAAAA!!!! Christmas came early this year.
November 8th, 2006 at 8:19 pmONLY IDIOTS WOULD STILL LISTEN TO, BE SUPPORT OF, OR CONDONE THE EXISTENCE OF GEORGE W. BUSH IN THE WHITE HOUSE. RUMSFELD IS A GONNER AND SO SHOULD BUSH AND CHENEY.
AMERICA HAS BEEN WEAKENED, CORRUPTED, HUMILIATED, BANKRUPTED, DEFEATED, LAUGHED AT, AND ROBBED BY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION. THOSE WHO STILL SUPPORT THIS EVIL ADMINISTRATION ARE NOTHING BUT THE DEADLY TERRORISTS THAT NEED TO BE HUNTED DOWN AND PURGED FROM THE CIVILIZED SOCIETY.
November 8th, 2006 at 8:20 pmYeah…and Dems were pro-war anti gay. Ohh..Dems are now repubs..Guess Bush succeeded after all
November 8th, 2006 at 10:06 pmYeah…and Dems were pro-war, anti gay, etc. Oh…Dems are now republicans. I guess Bush succeeded after all
November 8th, 2006 at 10:09 pm#92 It is not so much about the lie, as it is that he could have HELPED HIS PARTY by saying the truth. He said he did not have Rumsfeld’s replacement yet. Like no one in America would take the job? All he had to say is the truth. That he asked for Rumsfeld’s resignation, or that he offered it, and we are looking at replacements. What he wanted is someone to take the fall later, except himself, if things went real bad, like they did. It would also change the conversation from defeat, to trying to make a change in direction. I would call it unloyalty to the party!
I bet there are some pissed off Republicans out of a job because of this. And, some pissed off Republicans that are still in the House and the Senate, with this dimwit president.
November 8th, 2006 at 10:41 pmCheney out for ‘health’ reasons and McCain in as VP.
November 8th, 2006 at 10:49 pmIts coming late next year.
Bush and Cheney have been having regular sessions with Henry Kissinger, and adhereing to his advice from Vietnam. Kissinger advised them to never quit. So they came up with—”stay the course.” Which was changed to being “flexible with options.” Bush still says he is not leaving without victory. I am sure Nixon said that about vietnam at one time.
Dumping Rumsfeld was probably Plan B if things got out of control and some Republicans like John Warner and others, started jumping the ship, which they have. And, especially that many of the generals have said we cannot win this thing. Gates is just a “fresh set of eyes”, but will the policy and objectives change? Now he will try to blame the war situation on the Democrats.
But the American people just blamed him and his party for this fiasco in Iraq. So, it will be hard for him to run and hide to escape blame.
I say, start the investigations on all these lying critters.
November 8th, 2006 at 11:30 pmRe: #159 Okay, I’ll might buy that. It sounds about right.
It is only supposition, though. I could suppose that Bush was following Rove’s orders to “stay the course” through the election, and Bush could have really believed it was the best strategy for the GOP. Rove said all along that he was going to make Iraq the campaign’s pivot, and he’s known for taking turning a weakness to a strength.
And Bush is (supposedly) a “true believer.” He thinks what he does, what he Decides, is absolutely right, and the chips should just fall where they may after his pronouncements. He may not care what happens to him. He may have truly thought the lie was the best way to help the GOP’s chances. Hell, he may not have even understood that he was flat out lying. …probably just like all the other flat out lies.
November 8th, 2006 at 11:45 pm*I might buy that…
November 8th, 2006 at 11:49 pmThe only way to answer that question about whether I
went AWOL from the TANG
did community service for snorting cocaine
got out of serving time for DUI because of family influence
benefited from insider information when I sold Harken
Energy Corp. stock before its value plummeted, and then
failed to promptly report the transaction to the SEC in
violation of federal law
and get it on to another question, was to lie.
November 9th, 2006 at 12:09 amBREAKING
the war president had not met the person best qualified to be Secretary of Defense. huh?
November 9th, 2006 at 12:16 amBREAKING
War President had not met the best qualified person for Secretary of Defense. huh???
November 9th, 2006 at 12:19 am[…] Yup, Bush sold his ol’ buddy down the river to try to deflect some of the heat from the amazing election result. Oh, at first Bush stood loyally by Rummy boy but later, he admitted confidentially to just the Whitehouse Press Corps he was lying all along… […]
November 9th, 2006 at 1:58 amDon’t forget that now Rumsfield has become a private citizen it will be much more difficult to get any answers from him under congressional supoena. He’ll lawyer up immediately and claim both state secret and 5th amendment rights he might not have been able to claim as a gov’t employee. The Admin has very effectively squashed any meaningful oversight of the Iraq debacle.
November 9th, 2006 at 6:56 amI don’t really know if Bush was lying. I don’t think the media was very fair to him. He said that he was thinking of replacing Rumsfelt and he had to fine a replacement for him. He hadn’t to talk to Rummy and this Robert Gates.
Don’t get me wrong I do not like Bush but I just don’t think the media was fair to him.
November 9th, 2006 at 7:12 amIt isn’t the first time Bush had lied and it probably won’t be the last.
November 9th, 2006 at 7:46 am[…] Yesterday, however, the President pretty much admitted to lying in his press conference(from Think Progress): REPORTER: Last week you told us Secretary Rumsfeld would be staying on. Why is the timing right now, and how much does it have to do with the election results? […]
November 9th, 2006 at 8:17 amSo…….if Bush was ready to lie to America about Rumsfeld why wouldn’t he be lying about the true state of his Mission Accomplished Vanity War?
Or…….. is he going to wait until the next election to tell America and Iraq their loved ones have died in a tragic blunder of monumental proportions.
November 9th, 2006 at 8:42 amI, for one, don’t believe he was lying last week. I am absolutely convinced that when the elections results started coming in and the House was lost, and the Senate well on the way to being corrected, papa Bush swooped in to deliver the real smackdown to his petulant three-year-old. Kudos to the old man for finally stepping in, but it is TOO LATE!!!
November 9th, 2006 at 8:48 amI can only hope that when the resumption of daily business begins and the investigations that should have been implemented years ago start, there will be nothing to save him!
[…] So Donald Rumsfeld is out…and Bob Gates is in. Apparently Bush lied last week when he said that Rumsfeld would stay with him till the end, and he had been actually planning on this for some time. Before we get too happy about Rumsfeld leaving, however…let’s take a closer look at Bob Gates and a certain event from our past called the Iran-Contra Scandal. […]
November 9th, 2006 at 9:16 am[…] Seven days after George W. Bush told reporters that Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney were “doing fantastic jobs” and would stay on until the end of his presidency, and one day after Americans gave an overwhelming vote of no confidence to the administration’s policies, Donald Rumsfeld answered calls from both Democrats and Republicans and resigned. (On Wednesday, Bush admitted he had lied to reporters because of political considerations.) […]
November 9th, 2006 at 9:38 amThis just PROVES that BUSH will LIE when he needs to. It’s nothing new, he lied about the war, he lied about his response to hurricane katrina and Brownie, he’s just LIES when he feels it’s best for his cause. And this is the reason why he needs to be IMPEACHED!!!
November 9th, 2006 at 9:42 amBush did the same kind of thing (lied) when John Snow was about to resign.
From TP on May 30th:
“On May 25th, President Bush said that Treasury Secretary John Snow had not given him any indication that he was leaving soon:
PRESIDENT BUSH: Secretary of Treasury Snow?
Q Has he given you any indication he intends to leave his job any time soon?…
PRESIDENT BUSH: No, he has not talked to me about resignation. I think he’s doing a fine job.
In fact, not only had Snow indicated he was leaving, President Bush had already settled on his replacement. Today, Tony Snow said that Hank Paulson was offered the job on May 20 and accepted a day later”
Bush lies whenever it suits him and I’m convinced that it doesn’t bother his conscience one bit.
November 9th, 2006 at 10:00 amI’m so surprised the Schrub lied. Here’s a song that makes reference to that, and a whole lot more.
(Caution, don’t follow this link if you are easily offended)
November 9th, 2006 at 10:07 am
Re: #169 …Don’t get me wrong I do not like Bush but I just don’t think the media was fair to him.
Comment by Mary Poplins
Ms. Poplins, how is it that the media was not “fair” to Bush? Their job is to ask questions, get information, keep the public informed, and keep watch on the politicians (as we’ve seen over and over again these last six years that they need watching). Many people were calling for Rumsfeld. The media asked the question, what are you going to do about Mr. Rumsfeld? Bush can respond however he likes, as long as he doesn’t lie. Apparently he’s just not up to the job he agreed to do.
November 9th, 2006 at 10:44 amBush didn’t lie, he simply told the liberal media what they needed to hear at the time.
Comment by Mark — November 8, 2006 @ 2:09 pm
You can give up the myth of the liberal media now, Mark.
What Bush said was not true. How does that turn into “Bush didn’t lie”? And, by your own logic (?), you can use the same argument for Clinton’s lie. If you still feel the need to revisit the Clinton presidency again.
November 9th, 2006 at 11:48 amDoes anyone find interesting Bush’s explanation for not letting Rumsfeld prior to the election? He’s given an explanation that should piss off just about everyone. The Republicans who were trying to distance themselves from the war may have benefitted from having Rumsfeld gone early and been r