Bolton renomination already dead.
By on Nov 9th, 2006 at 3:47 pm
Bolton renomination already dead.
“Prospects for extending John Bolton’s job as U.N. ambassador essentially died Thursday as Democrats and a pivotal Republican said they would continue to oppose the nomination,” the AP reports. “Sen. Lincoln Chafee (R-RI), who was defeated by Democrat Sheldon Whitehouse on Tuesday, told reporters in Rhode Island on Thursday that he would continue opposing Bolton. That would deny Republicans the votes they would need to move Bolton’s nomination from the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to the full Senate.”
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November 9th, 2006 at 3:52 pmYou know, of all the Republicans that had to go it is very sad that one of them had to be Lincoln Chafee. The only Republican Senator to vote against the disaster in Iraq, pro-choice, pro embryonic stem cell etc, etc. He was in the wrong party. Thanks Linc.
November 9th, 2006 at 3:52 pmSo the Neo-kooks knew in the back of their minds all along what the right thing to do was, they just needed several million kicks in the ass to actually do it?
November 9th, 2006 at 3:56 pmPointless anyway since the United Nations is irrelevant.
November 9th, 2006 at 3:56 pmHA ha
November 9th, 2006 at 3:58 pmSend Bolton packing and let’s get a real statesman in there to actually do some good.
November 9th, 2006 at 4:02 pmIn this instance (never ANY other instance, of course! ha!), Progs ae acting as true oxy-morons. Not content with the “growth” of John Bolton or he way in which he has moderated his tone, leads one to believe that the “new” bipartisanship Madame-elect Pelosi was discussing was mre of the same ol’ same ol’…..
I hope Dems enjoy the view from inside the glass house as outside – you were expert rock throwers…..
November 9th, 2006 at 4:02 pmI wonder if alot of the defeated Republicans are going to blame the guy they followed, Bush, for their loss at the voting booth rather than themselves for following and will retaliate by making any vote on Bolton even more of a resounding “no”.
November 9th, 2006 at 4:03 pmClasy way to go out. At least he thinks of his country over his party. Too bad more Repubs aren’t like that.
November 9th, 2006 at 4:06 pmDamn! Now it’s back to playing Realpolitic Stratego with interns, and taking spit-baths in the AEI men’s room for the next two years . . .
November 9th, 2006 at 4:08 pmIf the UN is irrelavant anyway, the Great John Bolton should be dong something where his skills and experise would be put to good use. He probably hates working in the UN, so it’s actually helpful to him to get him out.
Mighty can you provide some evidence as to how Mr. Bolton has tempered his temper and has improved so much?
November 9th, 2006 at 4:09 pmaphrodite,
12 years of bullshit from Congressional Republicans and 6 years of Bush acting like he was king and you now want the Democrats to rollover in 2 days.
Take that bipartisan crap and shove it up your ass!
November 9th, 2006 at 4:10 pmI don’t get it. If Chafee was defated, wouldn’t he not even have a vote? Why would it matter if he supported Bolton or not if he’s been kicked out?
November 9th, 2006 at 4:10 pmI hope Dems enjoy the view from inside the glass house as outside – you were expert rock throwers…..
Comment by mighty aphrodite — November
One of the reasons you lost is so many of your own folks, throwing rocks from the inside.
November 9th, 2006 at 4:11 pmGreat news!
November 9th, 2006 at 4:12 pmsure, linc is a “good guy”, but when that “good guy” votes for some knuckle-dragger like mitch mcconnell or john mccain to be majority leader, we all lose. yeah, mighty a, bolton has “grown”. gimme a break. when i heard shrub giving some reporter grief about it being “thumpin’” and not “thumping”, my only thought was: forget thumpin’, when’s the impeachin’?? ITMFA i’m just saying…
November 9th, 2006 at 4:13 pmGeorge Allen just conceded Virginia.
We win. Yea good guys team.
November 9th, 2006 at 4:16 pm“Im with the Bush-Cheney team, and I’m here to stop the count.”
We haven’t forgotten, you belligerent walrus-faced shithead.
November 9th, 2006 at 4:17 pmIt’s almost like we averted a nuclear disaster in the world…
Alright, not almost. Glad Bolton is done.
November 9th, 2006 at 4:19 pmIf that one’s already dead, then the nomination of Rumsfeld’s successor needs some further attention. Go to blackboxvoting.org to see what they’ve unearthed about Gates and his connections to VoteHere. VoteHere is the largest elections industry lobbyist who contributed more money than Diebold, ES & S, and Sequoia combined to ram through the Help America Vote Act (HAVA) which brought in the corruptible electronic voting machines. (hard to believe they’d ante up all that dinero to help folks with disabilities now, isn’t it?? If it sounds too good to be true, then it usually is, folks)….In any case, the HAVA bill was sponsored by now-indicted Abrahamoff’s pal Bob Ney and K Street lobbyist pal, Steney Hoyer.
Do these Repubs really believe that they can fly under the radar and that the american public is not aware of their chicanery?
November 9th, 2006 at 4:19 pmDoes this strike anyone else as the Pres testing the waters of the senate? See if his party will rally to him now that they have lost the majority?
November 9th, 2006 at 4:23 pm#7 MA
Not content with the “growth†of John Bolton or he way in which he has moderated his tone, leads one to believe that the “new†bipartisanship Madame-elect Pelosi was discussing was mre of the same ol’ same ol’…..
Oh my, your spinning is so subtle as to be almost imperceptible. How clever you are.
Honestly, MA, it’s that kind of crap that lost you the elections. Do you actually know someone who’s dumb enough to see Dems as the threat to bipartisanship?
November 9th, 2006 at 4:23 pmUh, NewName, are you really that ignorant? Bush was planning on pushing Bolton’s name during the lame-duck session coming up in December. Of course, that’s over, so Bolton has to leave NY for new digs . . . who cares where he’s going. BTW, I have always thought he looked like Dr. Whovey in Horton Hears a Who.
November 9th, 2006 at 4:24 pmSo Mighty, you got the smack down, Pelosi apparently has nothing to do with Bolton’s confirmation.
November 9th, 2006 at 4:28 pmNow that the Dems are in, we will actually see some Bi-partisanship, which has been gone for so long.
November 9th, 2006 at 4:29 pmMighty, that was pretty weak, even for you. Now if you still desire socialization and spirited discussion, with somewhat of an intelligence, just say so. I can be compassionate and give you some of that attention you seem to want.
November 9th, 2006 at 4:31 pm#2
Maybe he will run as a Democrat next time.
November 9th, 2006 at 4:32 pm#7. This proves your are a mighty mental midget. The man couldn’t get nominated when it was a republican house and senate so now your mad at the democrats for this? Bolton is divisive and not the wisest choice. For Bush to push him shows his huburis and a neglect for our system of government.
November 9th, 2006 at 4:33 pmBush will never grasp the fact that what HE wants has become immaterial. He lacks the power to force anything through congress now, because Democrats will unite against him and Republicans running for reelection in 2008 will be reluctant to put themselves in the position of being labeled a rubber stamp Bush Republican……To show him the reality of his irrelevance, no one from the press should show up the next time he calls a news conference but Laura and his dog.
November 9th, 2006 at 4:33 pmGrowth? You mean that freaking thing posing as an upper lip?
November 9th, 2006 at 4:34 pmI encourage Bipartisanship in DC, and productive agendas without any revenge going on, probably a waste of time to impeach, that time is better spent getting positive things done for our country.
On this blog, however, revenge is very sweet.
November 9th, 2006 at 4:35 pmMighty thinks a one party goverment is a Democracy when it is in effect a Monarchy. But Mighty thinks like an elite, but isn’t. Elites don’t want any poor insignificant persons have any dealings in their own governance.
You can always move to the UK MA and become a groupie for Prince Charles!!
November 9th, 2006 at 4:37 pmMighty would really like to be an elite, wouldn’t she. In her Corvette, driving around in San Diego.
November 9th, 2006 at 4:41 pmMighty wouldn’t buy a foreign sports car.
November 9th, 2006 at 4:41 pmMe thinks MA is not a lawyer and using wordplay to hide the true profession of Lie-Yer!!
November 9th, 2006 at 4:42 pmBush will find someone even more “qualified” that will make Bolton look like Ghandi.
November 9th, 2006 at 4:46 pmChaffee has always been than most Republicans. He voted against the war. He was the only Republican to vote against torture. I’d rather have him than most of the other Republicans that “survived.”
November 9th, 2006 at 4:48 pmHeh!
November 9th, 2006 at 4:50 pmmighty aphrodite can go sit and spin with the rest of her zealot friends. Their words have absolutely no meaning anymore. Nobody cares what the hell she says. Mighty aphrodite needs to go to redstate and pout with all of the other boot lickers.
November 9th, 2006 at 4:52 pmYour correct, that big giant head would never fit..
November 9th, 2006 at 4:56 pm???
November 9th, 2006 at 5:08 pmChaffee got caught in the RI voter’s anti-Repug mood this round. Look at their results, RI went almost totally blue.
November 9th, 2006 at 5:10 pm.
Too bad for Chaffee, he was actually a good Senator, who was ousted for the (R) next to his name.
Bush wouldn’t know bi-partisanship if it bit him. Obviously, since he didn’t recognize the bi-partisan rejection of Bolton that has already occured.
The only thing trolls know how to drive are wedge issues into the political discussion, so they don’t need cars.
November 9th, 2006 at 5:10 pmBush makes his conciliatory speech then he turns around and says he will try to ram his boy Bolton through the nomination process. Chafee has already said he will nix it, and the Senate will have a hard time pushing the controversial Bolton. Bolton’s abrasive personality does not suit the role necessary in international relations. It’s unfortunate that Chafee lost, but it increased the number of Dems in the Senate, and it’s time for statesmanship to return.
November 9th, 2006 at 5:13 pmThe world is happy to see that Americans rejected the Bush government, and I suspect they will rejoice when Bush is gone. We may not always like the turn of events in the world, or the way the UN handles matters, but if we intend to remain a super power, we cannot have bullies in the White House and at the UN.
Me thinks MA is not a lawyer and using wordplay to hide the true profession of Lie-Yer!!
Comment by Dog_named_Boo — November 9, 2006 @ 4:42 pm
We figure that he actually cleans toilets in a courthouse. That way, when he says he’s going to court, it’s partially true… :D
Speaking of trolls – anyone seen Jason since late Tuesday night? I knew that coward wouldn’t show up after we won both House and Senate.
November 9th, 2006 at 5:19 pmI would not be surprised if Chaffee declared himself an independent.
November 9th, 2006 at 5:22 pmWell said Marie!
November 9th, 2006 at 5:22 pmAfter further review, Congresspedia has determined that Rep. Katherine Harris (R-Fla.) meets our criteria for the Members of Congress under investigation page. Harris, who is currently running for the U.S. Senate seat occupied by Bill Nelson (D-Fla.), brings the total to sixteen current and three former members currently the subject of a federal, state, or local probe.
Specifically, Harris is the subject of a joint investigation by both the Justice and Defense Departments for her ties to Mitchell Wade, a convicted defense contractor and former head of MZM Inc. In 2004, Wade made $32,000 worth of illegal contributions to Harris’ House campaign (although he apparently left out the “illegal†part when presenting her with the money). In addition, Wade paid for at least two dinners with Harris at a trendy Georgetown restaurant in 2004-2005 whose combined cost approached a whopping $6,000, a clear violation of House rules. During the second dinner, prosecutors say Wade requested that Harris help secure $10 million in federal funds for a project benefiting his firm in Sarasota, Fla. Harris allegedly submitted a request for the earmark to the House Appropriations Committee, but it was not granted.
http://www.prwatch.org/node/5395
November 9th, 2006 at 5:24 pmWe figure that he actually cleans toilets in a courthouse. That way, when he says he’s going to court, it’s partially true… :D Comment by unbelievable
Ahh, this makes a lot of sense. I’ve wonder how a person could carry around so much sh** all the time. But, it would appear that there is an occupational perk that allows frequent dumps between fill-ups from the right wing talk shows.
November 9th, 2006 at 5:25 pm#2, #41, #47, I agree. I feel bad for Chaffee, if the stakes weren’t so important I would have liked him to win. Hmmm, he might make a good UN ambassador.
November 9th, 2006 at 5:33 pmSo many positive changes ALREADY since Tuesday.
Wonderful.
November 9th, 2006 at 5:39 pmas marie #49 so accurately points out, the push for bolton by the bush crime family shows that they have no intention of changing course…
this is further evidence, for those of you who still require it, that gates is there to further bury this administration’s activities in the world. again, i refer the doubters in the crowd to review the november 2nd CRS document which discusses the obfuscation of the line between cia covert activity and dod special operations. if the ‘event’ under consideration is the former, there IS NO OVERSIGHT, if the latter, there is.
the middle-of-the-road, kumbayah nonsense has been given more time than it is worth–48 hours. now, lets not lose our heads and begin to trust these people!!!
November 9th, 2006 at 5:39 pmmighty aphrodite,
Nobody gives a flying phouc what you think or feel. You are a worthless piece of crap and so is your ideology. You and your heretical buddies can jump off a bridge. You would be taking up less space and wouldn’t be wasting perfectly good air.
Poodles….
November 9th, 2006 at 5:53 pmMaybe FOX news will make a new position for him, like Minority UN Ambassador.
November 9th, 2006 at 5:54 pm[...] John Bolton may have to go soon. Comments » [...]
November 9th, 2006 at 5:54 pm#51 – “I would not be surprised if Chaffee declared himself an independent.” Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC)
November 9th, 2006 at 5:56 pm******Dear PLC – I wish Chaffee would just join the Dem Party and be done with it. I HATE the fact that money I contributed to the Repub Committees might wind up in his campaign coffers. Take him – he’s YOURS.
Sponge Cake – I genuinely care about your thoughts and feelings!! Sadly, “VICTORY” has not improved you….I’ll bet children raised by wolves have better manners…
November 9th, 2006 at 6:01 pmI have watched his television interviews during the Korean and Iranian nuclear tensions and [...] flames did NOT erupt from his mouth.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — November 9, 2006 @ 5:46 pm
I see, tempered in your world means not going postal. Duh!
I’ll just bet you got an “A†in English, led the debate team in college and your mother told EVERYONE how eloquent you are…..
Rich coming from a person who only posts asinine rants in syntactically questionable English.
Seeing as I was discussing the phony bipartisanship being spoonfed by Nancy, your comment(s) are, as usual, irrelevant.
That would be Congresswoman Pelosi, to you.
And mentioning her in a thread about Bolton is irrelevant, as you found out.
Your discombabulation is a sad attempt to divert from the fact that you didn’t know the House has nothing to do with Bolton’s confirmation. Not to mention you didn’t know he wasn’t confirmed before due to Republican opposition to his candidacy, even though that fact was made clear in the topic of the thread.
November 9th, 2006 at 6:02 pmGRGrrrrr – You assume much…and know sooo little….Naturally, discussing bipartisanship on this website IS a foolish endeavour….I appreciate the reminder.
November 9th, 2006 at 6:08 pmYou assume much…and know sooo little….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — November 9, 2006 @ 6:08 pm
I know you are a room-temperature IQ troll. What else do I need to know?
Naturally, discussing bipartisanship on this website IS a foolish endeavour
Naturally, you put your foot in your mouth, got caught, and now are trying to run away. I won’t let you do that.
And you are not the best qualified person to talk about bi-partisanship, don’t even try to lecture anyone on it. You have spent all these months carrying water for your Great (mis)Leader, defending every initiative -no matter how immoral and/or illegal- and putting down anyone who disagrees with your distorted vision of the world.
November 9th, 2006 at 6:16 pmsomehow MA, your slant doesn’t carry as much weight.
November 9th, 2006 at 6:16 pmYou don’t care about me anymore than the 150,000 victims of Bush’s illegal war in Iraq. You lying sack of crap. At least tell the truth.
And no, a bunch of rich politicians kicking the asses of your rich politicians will not improve my attitude. I want you people convicted of helping a war criminal retain power for six years. I want impeachment, not bipartisanship. I don’t want the two sides working together. That is what has been going on this whole time. Democrats bowing down to Republicans. It is time to kick some ass, not make friends.
You are a worthless sack of blood and guts. You mean nothing to me now and you will never be anything more than a funny person who posts obscene crap on a blog.
November 9th, 2006 at 6:18 pm#75 MA, YOU are claiming for kindness in discourse?
November 9th, 2006 at 6:27 pmBOLTON NOMINATION; D.O.A. !!!!! HE’S TOAST!!!!
November 9th, 2006 at 6:36 pmDamn. For a second there I misread the headline as ‘Bolton already dead’ …
Things are shaping up. Here’s hoping the terros lay down a bit until things have stabilized. And that no right-wing nutter fearing the imminent attack of heliported, Democrat-approved, homosexual, abortion-loving, antichristian UN stormtroopers (financially backed by George Soros) goes berserk and decides to blow up stuff.
November 9th, 2006 at 6:39 pm“I want impeachment, not bipartisanship. I don’t want the two sides working together.” Comment by Spudge Boy
****Dear Sponge Cake – WE agree on something!!!! An impeachment would only hurt Dems – but the hearings could be ALOT of fun! I don’t want the two sides working together EITHER – I LOVE gridlock – politicians find it harder to spend money that way…. What a magical moment…..
November 9th, 2006 at 6:52 pmMighty Moron, just exactly who were “our friends and allies who did not desert us during our civil war”?
November 9th, 2006 at 6:58 pm
Mighty aphrodite is in desperate need of human interaction, even if it means name-calling, insults, and put-downs.
It must be really lonely being surrounded by imaginary family and friends.
So sad.
November 9th, 2006 at 6:59 pmNow that Bolt-on is no longer a viable candidate, will he donate his moustache to the Smithsonian, or maybe some freak show?
November 9th, 2006 at 6:59 pmlook i am a die-hard liberal but what i’ve read here through half of the comments is shameful. liberals have a chance to re-make america and push us forward instead of looking backward and going out for “revenge”. sure there are things that need to be addressed that bush and his cronies have done but we cannot and we must not make the legacy of this election one of hate as the 1994 republican sweep was. we have a chance to differentiate ourselves from the party we ousted, let’s not get bogged down in tit-for-tat. if we are truly thinking progressively then we will realize the futility of the endless revenge cycle. if we are to continue to build upon this momentum we must continue to BUILD and not to tear down.
aphrodite,
which one of us has not “tweaked the truth” on a resume for a job interview? bolton has been a temporary appointee and as such he has HAD to moderate his tone in order to have a shot at getting the job. he has behaved badly for decades and to ignore that is to ignore human nature. many republicans also voiced concern over his nomination. this is an excellent time to get someone who represents ALL of us since the peoples of both parties inhabit one great nation.
peace to all.
November 9th, 2006 at 7:05 pmDear Cameran – Most people have easily verified resumes. Maybe Bolton is “progressing”……
It’s been fun….
November 9th, 2006 at 7:11 pmIt was hard to vote against Linc Chafee. He is is a Rhode Islander that we all love. But he happened to ware the wrong badge during this cycle. His father was a carbon copy, “if you had to, split your vote” A vote of intellengence and principal.
November 9th, 2006 at 7:29 pmI love him because he knew the real John Bolton.
Bolton couldn’t wash dishes for Linclon Chafee or any of his Constituents.
hi aphrodite,
perhaps most people, in an ideal world, have “easily verified resumes” but how often is each and every word on a resume verified? in the hiring i’ve done i trust what the person puts on their form to an extent. i think this is true of most people – there isn’t enough time to factually check each and every word to ensure it is correct. even using a resume guidebook for a more “effective” resume is fudging your resume. ideally it would have zero influence from anyone else but yourself.
perhaps Bolton is progressing, but given the opposition to his nomination from both parties he is not in the nation’s best interest as represented by senators from both parties.
take care and peace to all
cameran
November 9th, 2006 at 7:32 pmI see it didn’t take mighty a-hole too long to blow a gasket. The loathing and disgust is just dripping off her posts. It must be hard for a Bush cultist contemplating what they might see over the next two years. Tell us, Mighty A-hole, did you support impeaching Clinton for lying about a sexual affair? Was it a lot of fun watching him squirm?
November 9th, 2006 at 7:33 pmwhoaaaa!!!!
are we going to just chant ‘kumbayah’ for the next two years??? i certainly did not vote for that, and, i think that i am not alone here… the bush crime family has so dismantled this country, have polluted the ground on which they stand, have stained the constitution, they have filled the air with their filthy lying stench for the past six years. tens of thousands have died because of their ruthlessness. and YOU dare say that the liberals must now not seek ‘revenge’… what a silly naive sentimental belief you have….
if you want to build little green progressive huts on the landscape, i suggest that you first clear the land, give this country some respect in the world by showing the world that such behaviour will not stand. the vote was just the tiniest of first steps in that direction. and, i would suggest that laying on your back and coddling the right-wing is not the right direction.
this country must respect itself again. the bush crime family must pay for the damage they have done to the constitution. they must be held accountable. this is not about getting head in the corridor, this is about blood and guts and dead children and thousands of dead americans and 20,000 plus walking wounded…this is about the constitution, the rule of law, and putting an end to the right’s religious extremism and zealotry.
the time for compromise, now well over fifty hours, is more than enough. roll up your sleeves and get to work putting this country back in shape by investigating, and jailing as many of the bush crime family as we can get in the next two years.
along the way, we can build your little green progressive huts where everyone makes above the minimum wage, gets to have their teeth cleaned and their medicine provided.
November 9th, 2006 at 7:42 pmWatching the political pundits from the DLC being interviewed on shows like Hardball, (Lisa Scaputo-DLC’er especially), it is clear that the elitists at the DLC are trying to hijack credit for this Democratic victory. They are doing so by giving ALL of the credit to Rahm Emanuel and dis respecting (by not even mentioning) Howard Dean. The time is ripe, dems are now in control, for REAL Democratic liberals and populists to break away from the Republican-lite DLC’ers. So, in response to a Howard Dean email i wrote this response:
Dear Governor Doctor Dean,
I feel that you should break away from the treachery and arrogance of the DLC because the DLC is being divisive in its efforts to give all the credit for victories to Rahm Emanuel and DLC’ers. Before I donate any more money, I need to know that Howard Dean is using the template of grass roots donors in cyberspace to attempt to garner a majority of support from true Democratic populists and liberals who want to break away from the yoke of the elitists in the DLC- who are at this most crucial juncture disrespecting the architect (Howard Dean) and groups like MoveOn.org and the blogosphere responsible for the Democrat’s takeover of the House and Senate.
Perhaps if more of us liberals present a united front we can get CHANGE within our own party, and purge it of the Republican-lite traitors and elitists.
November 9th, 2006 at 7:44 pmJames Risser: ” the bush crime family must pay for the damage they have done to the constitution. they must be held accountable. this is not about getting head in the corridor, this is about blood and guts and dead children and thousands of dead americans and 20,000 plus walking wounded…this is about the constitution, the rule of law, and putting an end to the right’s religious extremism and zealotry.”
Here, here. I second the motion!
November 9th, 2006 at 7:50 pmand then when the republicans take over they will do the same thing to us. it’s an unending cycle, like invading iraq. they kill us – we get pissed – we kill them. we kill them – they get pissed – they kill us.
as i previously said, there are things that need to be investigated – and they should be investigated. however making the party platform one of revanchism only smacks of futility.
the hours spent on witch hunts can be hours spent helping to rebuild this country at home and our image abroad. the more time we waste in an endless revenge cycle the more time we lose to enact real change instead of being part of the problem.
if we want to see change we need to be change. when the republicans came in to power in 1994 their hunts and their revenge began culminating with president clinton’s impeachment. do we now do the same thing? now when any party comes to power should they devote their time petty, ego-boosting squabbles while people starve and die?
investigate what needs to be investigated and move on. this country needs liberals. let’s not waste them on following the “eye for an eye” logic that so many religious extremists used to justify invading iraq.
November 9th, 2006 at 7:51 pmDid anybody check out Bolton’s new title?
Nominations Sent to the Senate
I’ll bet there’s a nice pay raise that goes with the verbosity. Perhaps even a generous severance package once his next recess appointment expires.
November 9th, 2006 at 7:53 pmYeah mighty assrodite. An impeachment would hurt the Dems, just like being against the war and Bush sure did hurt us. You have no frickin’ clue what would hurt the Dems, nor do yo know what the people of the United States want.
We don’t agree on a damn thing you lunatic.
November 9th, 2006 at 7:56 pm#23 Isis – good post. welcome.
November 9th, 2006 at 7:57 pmOne of the first reforms should be media reform. The oligarchy of Corporate Media should be dissolved.
November 9th, 2006 at 7:58 pmBnF,
i heard that if bush does indeed to the recess appointment, our mr bolton will no longer get paid… i can’t give you a source for that since i heard it on msnbc in passing. but, i think there is a statute regarding salaries on a second recess appointment!!!
November 9th, 2006 at 8:01 pmcameran,
I haven’t worked for six years to get the bums out so that I can make friends with them. We saved the country from criminals. Those criminals now need to be brought up on charges. We didn’t work this hard to make friends. Sorry to burst your bubble, but you haven’t been here being called a terrorist or a devil worshiper. We have.
November 9th, 2006 at 8:03 pmJohn Bolton will receive zero tax dollars for his second recess appointment. He can’t use our money for transportation, food, pay, nothing. All he does is take up a spot at the UN Security Counsel.
November 9th, 2006 at 8:04 pmand then when the republicans take over they will do the same thing to us. it’s an unending cycle, like invading iraq. they kill us – we get pissed – we kill them. we kill them – they get pissed – they kill us.
with all due respect, this is truly nonsense. we are not talking about getting head in the corridor, or even covering-up a burglary. this is about murder, war-crimes, death, and destruction. did you read that? murder, war-crimes, death and destruction!!! this is about a feces-stained constitution, war-profiteering, and treason….this is not about ‘ego-boosting squabbles’ and to say so shows that you have no idea just how serious it really is. one must wonder where someone who says that has been for the past six years… it is pitiable to think that there are people able to type who would type such tripe in 2006.
this is not a ‘cycle of revenge’, whatever that means. it is about restoring the country so that it CAN proceed. if this feces-stained band of retarded right-wing maniacs are not summarily investigated, dismissed, and then jailed, your progressive agenda will be built on a steaming pile of that which comes out of the rear-end of a dog.
November 9th, 2006 at 8:13 pmhello SpudgeBoy,
actually i am middle eastern and my last name is the same as one of the 9/11 hijackers. one of them even had a contact at my place of work, which made it difficult for people like me. i’ve gotten all the insults, 2:00AM threatening telephone calls, nasty looks, that many liberals love to talk about when they “sympathize” with us. i now have an unlisted number because of it. i have not traveled since 9/11 due to severe difficulties with airports because of my name and ethnicity. hate to burst your bubble.
nonetheless i believe we need to move forward and not look back. i want that part of time to be gone for those of us who actually suffered, not those who “sympathize”. what im saying is that my family did not leave one totalitarian regime for another, and when this country became totalitarian it was deeply upsetting. however i believe in this country and its ideals and feel we can do our best by being our best, not by aping those we have just ousted. it’s like animal farm. no do we walk on two legs too? we have to resist this natural urge for revenge and do the investigations that need to be done but not embark on outright witch hunts for those who have done such harm.
what an opportunity we have as liberals to move forward, not backward. we must prosecute and investigate those crimes that were done and then move on. we’ve got to be bigger than them.
cameran
November 9th, 2006 at 8:14 pmcameran,
Sorry, you are not going to change mind mind one single bit.
You say you left one totalitarian regime and don’t want another, well, thanks to us “sympathizing” liberals, you won’t have that problem. We just got rid of the fascist and it is time to hold them accountable for their crimes.
I don’t know what country you come from, but in America, criminals are held to account for what they have done.
This isn’t about revenge, it is about upholding our US Constitution, which has been trampled by the Bush regime. So, while your utopia sounds really great, you won’t find me hugging a tree or wanting to hold hands with my republican “brothers” anytime soon.
Bush and his followers made me this way. I don’t dislike nor want to take revenge on republicans. One reason is that Bush and his criminal friends are not republicans, they are Neo-Cons. They tried to take this country down a black hole and we stopped him. Now he must stand trial for his crimes.
When a murderer is put on trial, it isn’t the state taking revenge on him, it is the law in action.
November 9th, 2006 at 8:26 pm#108
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November 9th, 2006 at 8:32 pmThanks Wayne. I knew there had to be an easier way to make my point without having to give a history of the United States legal system.
November 9th, 2006 at 8:42 pmDear Cameran – Most people have easily verified resumes. Maybe Bolton is “progressingâ€â€¦â€¦
It’s been fun….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — November 9, 2006 @ 7:11 pm
How did this big fat sweaty loser pop up to discuss “resumes” Here is a clue-Bolton is a neo-con moron. MA how are the walks along the shore going? Did you pack a picnic basket? maybe some scones? What is with the “green tea” thing? MA what is the name of the new Speaker of the House? MA enjoy the next two years. I hear that that bald problem you have can be solved. Call me. Damn, this is real fun!
November 9th, 2006 at 11:00 pmCameran, Spudge is right.
November 9th, 2006 at 11:21 pmBush’s fascist regime was destroying our democracy. He is a criminal as are those in his White House.
It’s nice to say we shouldn’t look back, but move forward – generally an admirable philosophy, but it won’t work in this case.
Bush&Co will take advantage of those who take the high road – they must be stopped and suffer consequences for what they have done.
Thats funny since the grades of Dubya found in his old frathouse don’t match the school records!
Yeh Resumes are easily verifiable!
Not to mention guard paperwork that went poof!
Resumes are easy to verify!!!!
LMAO!!
November 9th, 2006 at 11:26 pmAfter six years of the Bush crime family, it’s provided greater understanding of the passion and emotion of the people who ran the underground in the Civil War era, or of the people who harbored Jews from the Nazis, or the resistance during WWII. Bush has made me skeptical and cynical, but also passionate about my country and democracy.
November 9th, 2006 at 11:35 pmAfter six years of the Bush crime family, it’s provided greater understanding of the passion and emotion of the people who ran the underground in the Civil War era, or of the people who harbored Jews from the Nazis, or the resistance during WWII. Bush has made me skeptical and cynical, but also passionate about my country and democracy.
Comment by Marie
Or the people who lost family in a place called Wounded Knee.
November 10th, 2006 at 1:27 am104 – I haven’t had the opportunity to research it, but my understanding is if they give Bolton a different title, he can get paid with taxpayer dollars. However, I hope that if the title is the only thing that has changed in a sham attempt to go around the Constitutional process of confirmation by the Senate, that some sort of lawsuit could be filed to prevent a second recess appointment.
November 10th, 2006 at 2:28 amI agree. The focus here is on the motivation behind investigations. Investigate. Shine light upon that which was done in shadows. Prosecute, to the fullest extent of the law.
But do not let your hearts be filled with a desire for revenge. Go forward with a heart of peace to seek justice. It’s not about revenge. It’s about making things right, about restoring balance.
It’s a difficult concept to put into words, but revenge is born of anger, and anger will only consume you, and cloud your judgement. To seek Justice with a peaceful heart is to see clearly, to think clearly, to be more focused, more alert, more thorough and more effective.
There is no need to seek revenge. Seek Justice. Once you have attained Justice, you will know that is enough.
Peace and Blessings.
November 10th, 2006 at 2:41 amThere is no need to seek revenge. Seek Justice. Once you have attained Justice, you will know that is enough.
Peace and Blessings. —– Briseadh na Faire
Very nice. Very true.
You are officially in my quote collection database now =)
November 10th, 2006 at 2:54 amMighty Aphrodite, it’s now your turn.
You lost. Get over it. Sound familiar? It should…you people have been shoving that into the face of Left-Leaning people since 2000.
Now that you’re losers, it’s time for you to reinvent yourself. One must learn from the mistakes of their past if they ever intend on changing. So, what went wrong?
I’ll give you a hint. I am what sank your party. Specifically, the people who sank your party are people like me. What am I? *clears throat, resisting urge to say ‘Shoushi’* I am an Independant. Mighty Aphrodite, my group broke for Democrats almost as hard as the Democrats did themselves. We Independants don’t vote for the party, we vote for the person and for the situation. Republicans used to be our answer to Democratic excesses: massive entitlement programs, heavy taxes, and out-of-control spending. Republicans have traditionally had their own issues too: Free reign for big business, increasing deficits, and the old ‘Good-Old-Boy’ phenominon of appointing people who are not qualified for their jobs as rewards for their support. But we could always count on the Republicans to deal with Democrats spending like drunken sailors…
Until Bush 43. You people have increased government, spent like drunk sailors, and did everything Republicans usually do. Is it any wonder the Independants are now breaking to Democrats? If we’re going to get out of control spending, at least let us get the benefits the Dems bring.
Mighty Aphrodite, do you want your party back in power? If so, leave this place and go back to your own party and be the change you want to see. My suggestions to you and your party:
1) Lose the Religious Right. They grow government, not shrink it.
2) Trim your leadership of the people who led you into 2006. At least punish them and remind them that Republicans win Elections when they follow their creed.
3) Cut the partisan rhetoric. Act like statesmen and gentlemen (and ladies), not like thugs.
4) RETURN TO YOUR PARTY’S CONSERVATIVE ROOTS!
If the Republicans can act like small government conservatives, you’ll win back the Libertarian vote. You won’t keep my vote, as there’ll be times in my life when I say it’s been enough and you need to take a rest, but at least you’ll have more of a chance.
Lastly, Mighty Aphrodite, look closely at point 3 up there. That’s addressed directly to you You attract more flies with honey than vinegar. You’re rude, overconfident, self-absorbed, and just nasty in general. Moderate your tone and present yourself as a Conservative who would like to learn from your mistakes and better yourself, and you’ll get alot more respect. Your party does that, it may well find itself back in the saddle in the next 5 to 10 years…maybe sooner depending on how the Dems act the next two years.
Learn from your defeat, MA, lest you’re forced to experience it all over again. See ya.
November 10th, 2006 at 11:29 amI’ll give you a hint. I am what sank your party. Specifically, the people who sank your party are people like me. What am I? *clears throat, resisting urge to say ‘Shoushi’* I am an Independant. Mighty Aphrodite, my group broke for Democrats almost as hard as the Democrats did themselves. We Independants don’t vote for the party, we vote for the person and for the situation.
Comment by Jeremy — November 10, 2006 @ 11:29 am
Excellent post Jeremy! And include me into that catagory.
I voted for the Republican govenor in my state because he is a former Democrat who was far more liberal than his Democratic challenger who wanted to increase The Death Penalty in my state. But I voted for the Democratic Congressman even though I knew nothing about him because I wanted Republicans to lose the majority that badly.
Thanks for reminding people who is the real swing vote… The Independents.
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