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	<title>Comments on: Bartlett: Medicare Doesn&#8217;t Need To Negotiate Lower Prices Because Drugs Are Already Cheap Enough</title>
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		<title>By: John Konop</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/12/bartlett-medicare-negotiate-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-1604962</link>
		<dc:creator>John Konop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Price Tells Retirees Their Prescription Drug Costs are Already Low Enough

The Cherokee Ledger News recently reported that Dr. Price voted not to let Medicare negotiate drug prices to help save both the program and retired Americans money. He did so against the wishes of the AARP and in contrast to most of his colleagues in congress. The Veterans Administration does negotiate prices, and saves vets millions.

Why the â€œnoâ€ vote, you ask? Because heâ€™s bought and paid-for by the medical lobby. His votes are easy to predict. If the bill moves money into the hands of the medical lobby, heâ€™s all over it. If it moves money out of the medical industry, itâ€™s a no-go (Iâ€™m sorry, itâ€™s â€œbad for patientsâ€).

But letâ€™s take a look at Priceâ€™s excuses:

â€¢ â€œThe less involvement government has in medical care, the better.â€
â€“So does this mean Price wants to eliminate Medicare? No, I didnâ€™t think so. This is just meaningless rhetoric.

â€¢ 90 percent of AARP members support giving Medicare the power to bargain for lower drug costs.
â€“ To them Price says, â€œIâ€™m sorry that AARPâ€™s taken such a partisan approach on this.â€

â€¢ â€œWashington bureaucrats will decide which drugs will be available for patients, not from a scientific or safety standpoint, but purely based on money. Many drugs would be knocked off the approved list if Medicare had the power to negotiate, resulting in a smaller choice of drugs being available to seniorsâ€
â€“ False. The bill (unfortunately) did not authorize Medicare to remove a non-discounted drug from coverage. The stronger Veterans Administration policy does.

â€¢ â€œNobody negotiates with the federal government. The federal government tells you what to do.â€
â€“ Well, he voted to make sure the first sentence remained true.

â€¢ â€œGovernment never has quality in mind when it comes to medical care; its whole objective is decreasing costs.â€
â€“As opposed to health insurance companies, who think of nothing but quality and donâ€™t care about expenses? Sure.

â€¢ â€œThe free market has continually proven more adept at lowering expenses.â€
â€“Whoops, I thought it was the government that was manically focused on decreasing costs. Well, his quote is true, if you realize itâ€™s referring to health insurance company expenses, not patientsâ€™ out-of-pocket expenses. 

â€¢ â€œMany quality physicians have been forced out of business by Medicare requirements.â€
â€“ Even if thatâ€™s true, it was no doubt due to Medicareâ€™s reimbursements for office visits and other direct physician care, not its prescription reimbursement policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Price Tells Retirees Their Prescription Drug Costs are Already Low Enough</p>
<p>The Cherokee Ledger News recently reported that Dr. Price voted not to let Medicare negotiate drug prices to help save both the program and retired Americans money. He did so against the wishes of the AARP and in contrast to most of his colleagues in congress. The Veterans Administration does negotiate prices, and saves vets millions.</p>
<p>Why the â€œnoâ€ vote, you ask? Because heâ€™s bought and paid-for by the medical lobby. His votes are easy to predict. If the bill moves money into the hands of the medical lobby, heâ€™s all over it. If it moves money out of the medical industry, itâ€™s a no-go (Iâ€™m sorry, itâ€™s â€œbad for patientsâ€).</p>
<p>But letâ€™s take a look at Priceâ€™s excuses:</p>
<p>â€¢ â€œThe less involvement government has in medical care, the better.â€<br />
â€“So does this mean Price wants to eliminate Medicare? No, I didnâ€™t think so. This is just meaningless rhetoric.</p>
<p>â€¢ 90 percent of AARP members support giving Medicare the power to bargain for lower drug costs.<br />
â€“ To them Price says, â€œIâ€™m sorry that AARPâ€™s taken such a partisan approach on this.â€</p>
<p>â€¢ â€œWashington bureaucrats will decide which drugs will be available for patients, not from a scientific or safety standpoint, but purely based on money. Many drugs would be knocked off the approved list if Medicare had the power to negotiate, resulting in a smaller choice of drugs being available to seniorsâ€<br />
â€“ False. The bill (unfortunately) did not authorize Medicare to remove a non-discounted drug from coverage. The stronger Veterans Administration policy does.</p>
<p>â€¢ â€œNobody negotiates with the federal government. The federal government tells you what to do.â€<br />
â€“ Well, he voted to make sure the first sentence remained true.</p>
<p>â€¢ â€œGovernment never has quality in mind when it comes to medical care; its whole objective is decreasing costs.â€<br />
â€“As opposed to health insurance companies, who think of nothing but quality and donâ€™t care about expenses? Sure.</p>
<p>â€¢ â€œThe free market has continually proven more adept at lowering expenses.â€<br />
â€“Whoops, I thought it was the government that was manically focused on decreasing costs. Well, his quote is true, if you realize itâ€™s referring to health insurance company expenses, not patientsâ€™ out-of-pocket expenses. </p>
<p>â€¢ â€œMany quality physicians have been forced out of business by Medicare requirements.â€<br />
â€“ Even if thatâ€™s true, it was no doubt due to Medicareâ€™s reimbursements for office visits and other direct physician care, not its prescription reimbursement policies.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1604962', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pumpkine</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/12/bartlett-medicare-negotiate-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-1191093</link>
		<dc:creator>pumpkine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 03:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I myself am on meds that cost over a 1,000 a month, but they are all I have to live with. I can&#039;t believe it, and I do not qualify for insurance or medicaid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I myself am on meds that cost over a 1,000 a month, but they are all I have to live with. I can&#8217;t believe it, and I do not qualify for insurance or medicaid.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1191093', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: terry green</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/12/bartlett-medicare-negotiate-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-1179076</link>
		<dc:creator>terry green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 23:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>go for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>go for it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1179076', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bill in Broward</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/12/bartlett-medicare-negotiate-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-1135539</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill in Broward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bullet point #3 ONLY applies to the &lt;strong&gt;dualsâ€¦if any of you liberal monkeys know what that means&lt;/strong&gt;!

Hey Tom...Guess What??? I am a DUAL due to multiple medical problems ALONG with being a transplant patient! It&#039;s the DUALS that are being raped right now and prepared for burial starting next January 1st!

And sir, as to your comment regarding Canada&#039;s pricing system being subsidized by taxes....&lt;strong&gt;WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK IS PAYING FOR PART &quot;D&quot;, Bushes Fairie Dust that he smoked or snorted in College???? &lt;/strong&gt;

Canada&#039;s pricing system is low mainly for the reason that the drug maufacturers do NOT have the EXPENSES that they have here in the USA....&lt;strong&gt;THEY are NOT permitted to ADVERTISE their drugs as they do here in the States and so their cost of doing business is MUCH lower and so are their drug prices!&lt;/strong&gt;

Don&#039;t count out the &quot;duals&quot; just because the republicans are hoping that we all roll over and die next January......it ain&#039;t gonna happen cause we &quot;duals&quot; have this funny way of fighting like hell to stay alive and become VERY vocal when IDIOTIC and UNTRUE statements are made such as what you posted! Remember, a lot of the &quot;duals&quot; are well educated, life-long voters and taxpayers who, due to medical circumstance, became eligible for Medicaid and then Medicare, due to a catestrophic illness or injury! I pray that you and all others NEVER have to find out just WHAT it means to fall into the &quot;Dual&quot; category! It is a very &quot;special&quot; Medical Hell that the republicans in power at that time sentenced us to....and I also pray that the Democrats in Power now do something about it....and do it QUICKLY so we &quot;duals&quot; can survive after January 1, 2007!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bullet point #3 ONLY applies to the <strong>dualsâ€¦if any of you liberal monkeys know what that means</strong>!</p>
<p>Hey Tom&#8230;Guess What??? I am a DUAL due to multiple medical problems ALONG with being a transplant patient! It&#8217;s the DUALS that are being raped right now and prepared for burial starting next January 1st!</p>
<p>And sir, as to your comment regarding Canada&#8217;s pricing system being subsidized by taxes&#8230;.<strong>WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK IS PAYING FOR PART &#8220;D&#8221;, Bushes Fairie Dust that he smoked or snorted in College???? </strong></p>
<p>Canada&#8217;s pricing system is low mainly for the reason that the drug maufacturers do NOT have the EXPENSES that they have here in the USA&#8230;.<strong>THEY are NOT permitted to ADVERTISE their drugs as they do here in the States and so their cost of doing business is MUCH lower and so are their drug prices!</strong></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t count out the &#8220;duals&#8221; just because the republicans are hoping that we all roll over and die next January&#8230;&#8230;it ain&#8217;t gonna happen cause we &#8220;duals&#8221; have this funny way of fighting like hell to stay alive and become VERY vocal when IDIOTIC and UNTRUE statements are made such as what you posted! Remember, a lot of the &#8220;duals&#8221; are well educated, life-long voters and taxpayers who, due to medical circumstance, became eligible for Medicaid and then Medicare, due to a catestrophic illness or injury! I pray that you and all others NEVER have to find out just WHAT it means to fall into the &#8220;Dual&#8221; category! It is a very &#8220;special&#8221; Medical Hell that the republicans in power at that time sentenced us to&#8230;.and I also pray that the Democrats in Power now do something about it&#8230;.and do it QUICKLY so we &#8220;duals&#8221; can survive after January 1, 2007!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1135539', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/12/bartlett-medicare-negotiate-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-1132214</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who knows Part D knoiws it&#039;s under budget and has resulted in an 80% satisfaction rate among enrollees.

Bullet point #3 ONLY applies to the duals...if any of you liberal monkeys know what that means!

You want Canada&#039;s prices but you want Americas access to physicians and procedure timelines...sorry you can&#039;t have it both ways.  The Canadian pricing system is subsuidized by TAXES.  Is that what you want higher taxes??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who knows Part D knoiws it&#8217;s under budget and has resulted in an 80% satisfaction rate among enrollees.</p>
<p>Bullet point #3 ONLY applies to the duals&#8230;if any of you liberal monkeys know what that means!</p>
<p>You want Canada&#8217;s prices but you want Americas access to physicians and procedure timelines&#8230;sorry you can&#8217;t have it both ways.  The Canadian pricing system is subsuidized by TAXES.  Is that what you want higher taxes??<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1132214', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Arliss</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/12/bartlett-medicare-negotiate-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-1131609</link>
		<dc:creator>Arliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>trueblue... Ambien!

Why do you think Ambien is one of the biggest selling drugs in the US?

That&#039;s how they are able to sleep at night!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>trueblue&#8230; Ambien!</p>
<p>Why do you think Ambien is one of the biggest selling drugs in the US?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s how they are able to sleep at night!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1131609', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/12/bartlett-medicare-negotiate-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-1131370</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Nov 95 until last month, Bush had an order in effect that instructed customs to confiscate drugs that were being shipped from Canada to the US.  Of course, the reason given was &quot;safety&quot; concerns.  Those who ordered these drugs and who had them confiscated where still stuck with paying the charges but were never informed that their drugs were confiscated.  I HATE THESE PEOPLE.  They will have to answer for these deeds someday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Nov 95 until last month, Bush had an order in effect that instructed customs to confiscate drugs that were being shipped from Canada to the US.  Of course, the reason given was &#8220;safety&#8221; concerns.  Those who ordered these drugs and who had them confiscated where still stuck with paying the charges but were never informed that their drugs were confiscated.  I HATE THESE PEOPLE.  They will have to answer for these deeds someday.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1131370', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim Holmen</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/12/bartlett-medicare-negotiate-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-1128372</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Holmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The proof is in the pudding&quot;?  So many ignorant people----that adage makes no sense--it has been corrupted from the correct adage: &quot;The proof of the pudding is in the eating&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The proof is in the pudding&#8221;?  So many ignorant people&#8212;-that adage makes no sense&#8211;it has been corrupted from the correct adage: &#8220;The proof of the pudding is in the eating&#8221;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1128372', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: doctim</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/12/bartlett-medicare-negotiate-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-1127740</link>
		<dc:creator>doctim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unbelievable what these crooks will try to sell to the elderly.  The VA negotiates on med prices all the time, it&#039;s nothing new, they are just stroking their big Pharm buddies at our expense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unbelievable what these crooks will try to sell to the elderly.  The VA negotiates on med prices all the time, it&#8217;s nothing new, they are just stroking their big Pharm buddies at our expense.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1127740', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom Berger</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/12/bartlett-medicare-negotiate-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-1127060</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Berger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 19:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention the campaign contributions to the Republicans by the drug companies.  How can those bucks keep rolling in if the drug companies aren&#039;t making obscene profits off of the sick andl elderly.  My kid has CF and guess how much drug companies make off of her meds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention the campaign contributions to the Republicans by the drug companies.  How can those bucks keep rolling in if the drug companies aren&#8217;t making obscene profits off of the sick andl elderly.  My kid has CF and guess how much drug companies make off of her meds.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1127060', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Calling a dick a dick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calling a dick a dick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 19:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did this puny ignorant dick even get a place on the TV screen. Talkin bullshit like he even had a clue. Jeez TV is really hard up if they have to interview turds like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did this puny ignorant dick even get a place on the TV screen. Talkin bullshit like he even had a clue. Jeez TV is really hard up if they have to interview turds like this.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1127007', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: David Carlisle</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Carlisle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks- you don&#039;t see the ironclad reasoning here: if drug prices and treatments were cheaper, it would just &lt;em&gt;encourage&lt;/em&gt; people to be sick!  We don&#039;t want to send out the message to kids that it&#039;s cool to have a disease!  I mean, bring down the price of a tetanus shot and antibiotics, and then everybody but everybody&#039;s going to start stepping on rusty nails.
  Besides, being fatally ill builds character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks- you don&#8217;t see the ironclad reasoning here: if drug prices and treatments were cheaper, it would just <em>encourage</em> people to be sick!  We don&#8217;t want to send out the message to kids that it&#8217;s cool to have a disease!  I mean, bring down the price of a tetanus shot and antibiotics, and then everybody but everybody&#8217;s going to start stepping on rusty nails.<br />
  Besides, being fatally ill builds character.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1126466', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tom baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess who Dan will be working for before long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess who Dan will be working for before long.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1126355', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: lmwilker</title>
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		<dc:creator>lmwilker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 15:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the front page stories in our local newspaper last week was about a waitress who suffered a massive stroke because she couldn&#039;t afford the $300.00 a month her blood pressure medication cost. Wonder if this douchebag would like to drop by and explain to her how drug prices are cheap enough. After all, she has the motor control and speech abilities of a pudding now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the front page stories in our local newspaper last week was about a waitress who suffered a massive stroke because she couldn&#8217;t afford the $300.00 a month her blood pressure medication cost. Wonder if this douchebag would like to drop by and explain to her how drug prices are cheap enough. After all, she has the motor control and speech abilities of a pudding now.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1126092', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: lightning</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/12/bartlett-medicare-negotiate-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-1126057</link>
		<dc:creator>lightning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 15:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The good news is that these dirtbags are all on the way out......thank you America!! Bush, Cheney, Rove, Fox News and all their minions are an absolute disgrace and history will deal with them accordingly. Drug, Insurance, Energy, HMO and other select companies (Halliburton, KGB, etc.) will hopefully be dealth with by a more democratic Congress that understands just how deeply resentful the American public is over being relegated to the &quot;use me anyway you want&quot; pile thanks largely to Dick Cheney.  I can&#039;t wait for Joe Biden to start serious hearings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The good news is that these dirtbags are all on the way out&#8230;&#8230;thank you America!! Bush, Cheney, Rove, Fox News and all their minions are an absolute disgrace and history will deal with them accordingly. Drug, Insurance, Energy, HMO and other select companies (Halliburton, KGB, etc.) will hopefully be dealth with by a more democratic Congress that understands just how deeply resentful the American public is over being relegated to the &#8220;use me anyway you want&#8221; pile thanks largely to Dick Cheney.  I can&#8217;t wait for Joe Biden to start serious hearings.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1126057', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Combs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Combs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 15:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If US agencies negotiate somewhat lower prices with the top ten or twenty pharmaceutical firms, the real worries are:
- MFN (&quot;most favored nation&quot;) clauses among HMOs, pharmacy benefit managers, and others may kick in, lowering everyone&#039;s prices throughout the US economy
- existing contracts with other nations&#039; health services cannot be renegotiated &quot;up&quot; quickly enough over the next 2 or 3 years to account for foregone revenue from lowered US prices.
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Currently, high prices in the US cross-subsidize lower prices outside the US.  However, there is plenty of intellectual firepower in the largest pharmaceutical companies to manage a transition in which US customers (Federal and State governments, notably, but also private employers) less generously subsidize 700 to 800 million middle class consumers abroad.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If US agencies negotiate somewhat lower prices with the top ten or twenty pharmaceutical firms, the real worries are:<br />
- MFN (&#8221;most favored nation&#8221;) clauses among HMOs, pharmacy benefit managers, and others may kick in, lowering everyone&#8217;s prices throughout the US economy<br />
- existing contracts with other nations&#8217; health services cannot be renegotiated &#8220;up&#8221; quickly enough over the next 2 or 3 years to account for foregone revenue from lowered US prices.<br />
&#8211;<br />
Currently, high prices in the US cross-subsidize lower prices outside the US.  However, there is plenty of intellectual firepower in the largest pharmaceutical companies to manage a transition in which US customers (Federal and State governments, notably, but also private employers) less generously subsidize 700 to 800 million middle class consumers abroad.<br />
&#8211;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1126041', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/12/bartlett-medicare-negotiate-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-1125344</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonder if Mr. Bartlett would like to pay
for my arthritis medicine Enbrel? Its
only $1,400 a month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonder if Mr. Bartlett would like to pay<br />
for my arthritis medicine Enbrel? Its<br />
only $1,400 a month.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1125344', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: vwcat</title>
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		<dc:creator>vwcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 04:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drugs are cheap enough??  Okay, Dan, you pay my 300.00 a month prescription bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drugs are cheap enough??  Okay, Dan, you pay my 300.00 a month prescription bill.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1123294', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: kasinca</title>
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		<dc:creator>kasinca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 02:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan Bartlett was the guy who helped Karen Hughes scrub the bad information from Dubya&#039;s National Guard personnel file before he ran for Governor of Texas and the presidency...I guess you can take what he says to the bank.  Would a man like that ever tell a lie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan Bartlett was the guy who helped Karen Hughes scrub the bad information from Dubya&#8217;s National Guard personnel file before he ran for Governor of Texas and the presidency&#8230;I guess you can take what he says to the bank.  Would a man like that ever tell a lie?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1122952', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: seajane</title>
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		<dc:creator>seajane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 00:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this mornings &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theolympian.com/109/story/50327.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;newspaper&lt;/a&gt; a woman wrote this in her letter to the editor:



&lt;blockquote&gt;On Oct. 6th I celebrated, to a degree, my 94th birthday. I also had the experience of paying &lt;strong&gt;$780.80 for a 12-day supply &lt;/strong&gt;of prescribed antibiotics. While the medication was for an intestinal disorder, when seeing the bill, I thought for a moment I&#039;d need something for my heart as well.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


I guess Bartlett thinks that&#039;s reasonable!  I wonder what world he lives in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this mornings <a href="http://www.theolympian.com/109/story/50327.html" rel="nofollow">newspaper</a> a woman wrote this in her letter to the editor:</p>
<blockquote><p>On Oct. 6th I celebrated, to a degree, my 94th birthday. I also had the experience of paying <strong>$780.80 for a 12-day supply </strong>of prescribed antibiotics. While the medication was for an intestinal disorder, when seeing the bill, I thought for a moment I&#8217;d need something for my heart as well.</p></blockquote>
<p>I guess Bartlett thinks that&#8217;s reasonable!  I wonder what world he lives in?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1122557', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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