Lieberman: ‘This Was Not a Major Realignment Election’
Lieberman: ‘This Was Not a Major Realignment Election’
On Tuesday, Democrats picked up six seats in the Senate and at least 29 seats in the House, taking control of both chambers for the first time in 12 years. Not a single Democratic incumbent lost. Today on Meet the Press, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) said this was “not a major realignment election” and “both major political parties…[are] in a kind of probation.” Watch it:
Transcript:
LIEBERMAN: The fact is that this was not a major realignment election in my opinion. This was the voters in Connecticut and elsewhere saying we are disappointed with the the Republicans. We want to give the Democrats a chance. But I believe that the American people are considering both major political parties to be in a kind of probation because their understandably angry that Washington is dominated too much by partisan political games and not enough by problem solving and patriotism.
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poor joe, he has become a back bencher and meaningless. nothing could be worse except trying to find a job that had any actual qualities for. So he may have gotten lucky, has 6 more years before retirement, and the poor people of CT get a yesterday’s meals on wheels delivered to their door.
November 12th, 2006 at 11:39 amDear Joe,
We realligned your ass out of the politcal party you have been in since 1988. Only through vote fraud and money from the Republicans did you manage to steal another term as an independant.
Not a “magor reallignment”? Would tar and feathers or perhaps a war crimes trial have changed your mind?
November 12th, 2006 at 11:42 amIDIOT
November 12th, 2006 at 11:44 amF*** joe and F*** mtp.
actually, also F*** war criminals like mccain, too.
November 12th, 2006 at 11:47 ami think he’s right, in some respects. in many cases, the american people voted the republicans OUT, and not the dems IN. which seems to mean “we don’t know exactly what you can do, but it has to be better than this crap”.
November 12th, 2006 at 11:49 amyou misunderstand Dear Senator: clearly it is he that has won, not the democrats or the american people. he said he would stay with the dems to save the party from itself, by strength of his ‘moral’ compass, the one he bought for 387,000+ slushy dollars.
November 12th, 2006 at 11:50 amHe will never change. He whinned his way back into power and his party will use him, but never trust him. It is all about Joe, always has been, always will.
November 12th, 2006 at 11:52 amJoe is actually not to awful far from the scary truth, and that is both parties are beholden to the corporate master. ‘Realpolitik to these people is not open and honest debate it is $$$ and backroom agendas.
Lieberman is a product, bought and paid for, of corporate America. lobbyists, corruption, greed, and the powerhungry will be the downfall of America. We are already drowning in Red Ink thanks to our moral andf fiscal bankrupters in congress
November 12th, 2006 at 11:53 amWhat an idiot! He needs to be dealt with in 2008. He is out of step with Democrats and most Americans. Our country shouldn’t tolerate political whores of his ilk. What were the voters of Connecticut thinking?
November 12th, 2006 at 11:53 amI predict Joe will start soon start acting as if democrats just don’t have the “interest” of the country in mind and will caucus with the republicans. Joe still doesn’t get it.
November 12th, 2006 at 11:53 amwho is joe lieberman?
November 12th, 2006 at 11:55 amGood morning,
I am worried about Joe, is he looking at the Presidency?
November 12th, 2006 at 11:57 amLieberman had help from the GOP to cheat to remain in the Senate! He has sold his soul to the devil Bush Regime, so anything he says is bogus!
November 12th, 2006 at 11:57 amin many cases, the american people voted the republicans OUT, and not the dems IN.
Comment by middleroad — November 12, 2006 @ 11:49 am
In that case, I also think he’s right in that sense. It’s just the poor way he packaged it to coddle the Republicans who footed the bill for him to avert the will of the voters that pisses us off.
He was a Democrat in name only. I still don’t understand why Gore picked him as a running mate. I think he hurt him. And his actions this year further validate that.
Time will tell, by the way Lieberman votes, whether or not this was just more political posturing and rhetoric, or if he actually learned something.
Personally, I’m not holding my breath on the latter happening.
November 12th, 2006 at 11:58 amWhat were the voters of Connecticut thinking?
Comment by osage — November 12, 2006 @ 11:53 am
He was elected by the Republicans. Only 10% of them voted for their own candidate.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:00 pmJoe Lieberman is a representation of the reason why most of the world hates the Jews.
Joe ruthlessly and arrogantly stabbed Ned Lamont and the Democratic Party in the back, and he doesn’t care one way or the other, because he gets to preserve his own personal power at the expense of the integrity of our democratic process.
He thinks he is the chosen one who can’t be replaceable. When the hell did Joe Lieberman ever make a difference to any American’s life?
I wish the jerk would make aliyah to Israel and be a pain in the ass to the Israelis instead of us.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:01 pmLamont went off message on the anti-war stance and took a two week vacation..perhaps that is why.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:02 pm[...] shut up, Joe. Permalink| [...]
November 12th, 2006 at 12:06 pmJoe Liebermann should be publicly flogged at the next convention.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:06 pmI half saw the interview as I read the paper. From what I heard, I simply cannot fathom what the voters of CT were thinking in selecting him. He is clearly beyond senile.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:08 pmThe problem with our politicians is most of them come from this great school of thought that American politics must resemble and be modeled after the Graeco/Roman empire.
Sure I have read Platos Republic. And we see what happened, yet these fools, these neo-con empire builders, are doing just that.
They have hijacked the Partridge bus, renamed it Empire, the historical one that always crashes, And have charted a course for the Empire bus taking it straight towards precipice.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:12 pmthe voting machines in CT saw something in him; the voters didn’t.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:13 pmThat should be interesting watching Joe run from stage to stage sucking face.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:14 pmI don’t get the patriotism tag-on at the end. What does patriotism have to do with the problems facing America? We’re not patriotic enough?
November 12th, 2006 at 12:15 pmAmerica’s Least Wanted
that screen shot is apropos… yawn…
i also think his being on the ticket hurt gore – i know i groaned when it was announced… it also seemed like pandering, to the jewish vote…
i’m more upset now that the dems seem not willing to relieve him of any of his chair duties… he has no right to be on any dem committee…
November 12th, 2006 at 12:15 pm.
Leave Emporer Palpatine alone.
He clearly won the election and is now on the path towards “unlimited power”!
Oh, the Democratic Party bailed out on Ned and now we are stuck with this self aggrandizing putz.
-GSD
November 12th, 2006 at 12:18 pmLieberman is an unpatriotic schemer. The worst kind of opportunist.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:19 pmSo if this was not an alignment [corporate wise it wasn't] this would also nullify the GOP win in 1994.
True or False?
And, if you had to vote for your favorite coporation who would it be to represent you?
I Choose Levi-Strauss, sure they prolly got sweat shops and screw people on wages and stuff, but I love my Levis!
Levi-Strauss for Texas Senate!!
Woooo!!
Levi-Strauss for President!!
Future world sure looks sucky…..
November 12th, 2006 at 12:20 pmIt is gratifying to know that a state outside the south is capable of having an arrogant, ignorant, moralizing windbag for an elected representative. For years I had thought we had a monopoly on such hypocritical drek.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:20 pmi can’t believe he said this:
oops, i made it mistake…actually that is a nancy pelosi quote….sorry the confursion…
November 12th, 2006 at 12:21 pmLeave Emporer Palpatine alone.
jajajajajaaa!
November 12th, 2006 at 12:21 pmAhm, truth,
Cut the crap. I hate Joe, too. But not because he is “a representation of the reason why most of the world hates the Jews”. His way – “he doesn’t care one way or the other, because he gets to preserve his own personal power at the expense of the integrity of our democratic process”, as you say – is NOT “typically jewish”.
This has everything to do with Joe Lieberman and nothing with Judaism. So, please, drop this little backwardly-antisemitic sermons, will you?
November 12th, 2006 at 12:22 pm…a FACT in his OPINION?
Okay, so it is his opinionated fact. By definition, I beleive that makes it NOT a fact anymore. Simply his opinion.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:23 pm#16 – “most of the world hates the Jews” – because of people like you who who spread hatred. Liberman’s problem is not that he’s Jewish… it’s that he’s a militaristic tone deaf wombat who’s been bought and paid so many times over he swims in the aministration cool aid tank without batting an eye.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:23 pmKarl Rove and the GOP spent almost 20 million to keep Joe Lieberman in the Senate, so he owes them for everything! Very strange that in 2000 election Joe’s Repub opponent got 448,077 votes, then in this 2006 election Lamont got 448,077 votes too? That is statistically impossible, so massive vote fraud occurred in CT, and even Rep. Shays stayed in office!
November 12th, 2006 at 12:23 pmTo #16 Truth. Get our anti-semetic butt the hell out of here.
By the way I’m Jewish, voted for Lamont, and worked on the Lamont campaign.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:26 pmTalk about shooting your own toe, off, oh well it was the left foot, the one used for braking the Emmpire Bus.
Ennyhoo, If this were true what Blo Lieberman says about BOTH parties [cough, not his party! Hack] then as many Democrats would have been voted out. [
Whuddamaroon!
November 12th, 2006 at 12:27 pm20 million dollars? Jeff Gannon would have been a much cheaper manwhore.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:28 pmLieberman reminds me of the Star Wars character Anakin Skywalker who turned to the “Dark Side” and became Darth Vader. Joe is the most dangerous man in the Senate, so watch what he does for the next 2 years in helping Emperor Palpatine Bush!
November 12th, 2006 at 12:29 pmJOE: “But I believe that the American people are considering both major political parties to be in a kind of probation because their understandably angry that Washington is dominated too much by partisan political games and not enough by problem solving and patriotism.”
ME: The only side playing partisan political games is the Republican side. They were in charge, they were the ones messing everything up. There are Democrat voters angry at Democrat congressmen, and I know you know this – you just refuse to say so because you’re in bed with the Republican party – Dem voters are angry at Dem congressmen because they are spineless and can’t win elections (usually because they play fair, which is a near impossible winning strategy when you play with cheaters.) And if you could Joe, for the record, state which Democrats are NOT patriotic. You say there isn’t enough patriotism, so please list for me the Democrats who are not showing that. As far as I can tell, wanting to get American troops out of harms way, and pulling them out of a war in a country that is not threat outside there borders IS patriotic. Questioning your government when they do something questionable IS patriotic.
And I know you know all these things Joe. You just refuse to say it. Because you think as long as you keep regurgitating those lines, people will fall for it. Unfortunately there are a handful of idiot Americans who do fall for it, but it’s getting less and less. And I don’t understand why you even BOTHER trying to trick the American people. Sounds to me like with your lies – YOU are the one who isn’t patriotic. You, Joe. You.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:36 pmI think that Joe must be referring to Bush’s ManDate
November 12th, 2006 at 12:38 pmNot surprised that the anti-Semite rhetoric started already. Sheesh.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:39 pmoh, and by the way Joe, you were voted back into office by Republicans to stop the Democrats because the Repubilcans couldn’t field a strong candidate for CT Senator… so if you don’t think that’s a major realignment, you’re eating Mike Dewine’s “pot-laced bananas”.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:39 pmRichard Dawkins’s next book: The Lieberman Delusion
November 12th, 2006 at 12:43 pmJoe is emperor Palpatine, you meatball, not Anikin… he’s not showing offon Nabu, jumping off a beast and playing dead to have a roll in the hay with Nathalie Portman… can’t you see the jowls… we never trusted Bush… in Episode 2 they still trust Palpatine and aren’t aware that he is poised to take total power and lock down the Senate.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:44 pmI just read the anti-Semitic post above. To that poster: Please go find a place where your pathetic venom is wanted, there is no need for that kind of crap here.
-GSD
November 12th, 2006 at 12:45 pmCould it be that Joe ACTUALLY believes that to withdraw soon would not serve our or Iraq interests?
November 12th, 2006 at 12:45 pmMy God, what a twit.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:46 pmIf it makes Joe feel better to lie to himself rather than look at this pathetic win as anything but another bought and paid for vote for the neocon agenda, then go ahead…just leave us out of it Tim and Joe and all you other power hungry asses.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:48 pmAs I said on my blog this morning, the republicans who pulled up to the polling place where I stood and talked to people on behalf of Lamont, looked a hell of alot different than the democrats who were trying to vote for what they actually wanted. Clearly the Jag driving guy who was flipping off the democratic “line 2B straight across” was gonna vote “line 1A” and not deviate all the way to the bottom of the machine to find Joe as a breakout choice. But this was a very deliberate move by not only the repubs but certain democrats who Joe knows and who owe one person or another much more than they care about the ticket or what the people want…and who would tell their local constituients to look to the bottom for Joe. Why was I fighting against my own party? And why were most of them telling me that they agreed with Lamont but they told one person or another that they would help Joe…for social reasons?
I watched an incumbent local representative call each voter by name and mention their church, boss, mother and whoever was necessary, before taking a neighbor’s hand and telling them to help poor old Joe get his job back. All I wanted to say was that the vote is secret and not to worry if they voted for who they wanted….Thse clever and crafty dems for Joe were heavily implying that he was representing them and the dem ticket…and that it was the duty of each community member to vote for him. I was never prouder than I was when I saw older people and lower income people come out and say right to her face that Joe had lost their vote….which held true for the large majority for dems. Now, if only those repubs could have stuck to their nominated candidate (and Joe could have listened to the people.)
I much prefer the republicans who boldly state that they are going against Schlesinger and their party to vote for who represents their interests, to these creepy insiders who would change their “deeply and ethically” felt views on anything in order to serve the higher power…
No time to rest people….move along….we got a president to get into office….damn!
this election was not a win for the democrats but a protest to the republikkkon. if 80% of the people are supporting an impeachment and the elected officials are suppose to represent the people, since we hired them to do what the people want. then tell me WHY are the dems NOT going to move for impeachment. and then why should we be joyous for nancy pelosi and not voice our opinion to boot her. secondly is i hear alot about bipartisan. folks we don’t want bipartisan. if that was the case then why have a two party system. we want to oppose these pricks not have the other party work with them and compromise. that will allow the reichwing voice and ideology be heard and part of the solution. i say f. that. it’s about time that there is party or a congressman to stand up to these pricks and kill the moneyman, rothchilds, rockefellers and the get the bank (federal reserve) out of our government in which it controls.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:50 pmFrom one Joe to another:
November 12th, 2006 at 12:50 pmYou were chosen to be the VP candidate by the Democratic Party. It would be wrong for you to turn your back on that party. You shoould drop the “independent” and come fully back to the Dems. The election in the nation WAS a clear message that Americans are not satisfied the the war you have supported. It is time to use your reelection to encourage a change in direction over Iraq.
Can any one post the exit polls for Liberman vs: Lamont?? That should show if there was any hanky panky. I ha te the fact he was able to run as an indi and remain a senator however, I think he is correct that neither party has a lock on the independent voters.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:51 pmyes, this lieberman being jewish is not an issue as my pelosi quote in #30–who isn’t jewish–shows. their positions are indistinguishable on the ‘jewish question’. i don’t think hillary is jewish either, but, to use a rumsfeldian metaphor, there is ‘no light’ between the positions of the three.
so please don’t hate joe for being jewish when a) there are so many other reasons to hate him, and b) there are any number of significant democrats who are not jewish that share his positions…
hate joe for being forever wrong, for being forever dull, for being forever up the arse of the bush crime family…
November 12th, 2006 at 12:54 pmHe’s already working against us, undercutting us, already. What a damn disaster.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:55 pmbanana > Anakin Skywalker turned ugly like Lieberman when he became Darth Vader. Joe will never control or seize the Senate, but he will be a backstaber for Pres. Bush > Joe will be his loyal apprentice who attacks anyone who dares defy the empire!
November 12th, 2006 at 12:55 pmTo the comment by “truth”:
November 12th, 2006 at 12:57 pmYou don’t sound like a Democrat…our party is about tolerance, not hatred. Maybe you should change your name..instead of “truth”, to “nazi”
Jette
Its dumb how people who feel they are at the top cant admit they lost at anything.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:58 pmLieberman—-one more solid reason why this country needs term limits for these career politicos.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:59 pmUntil we have term limits and women equally represented in Congress—(a special election that would see the voters retain one of their male reps and at the same time vote in a female, so that there would be 218 Female Reps, 217 Male, 50 Female Senators, 50 Male Senators) this country’s so-called Representative Republic is a sham.
What we have is the Good Ol’ Boy network elitely running the show, and guaranteeing results to the highest bidders.
Lieberman is symbolic of everything wrong with this system.
Shame on Connecticut.
“… not to mention the penchant to promote personal platitudes pertaining to the perseverence of purple people eaters, Tim.”
November 12th, 2006 at 1:02 pmAnd if Lieberman decides to caucus with the Republicans, then what….???
Better to placate him with a little of this and a little of that than the Senate should go back into Republican hands.
Everyone start now insisting that your state secretary of state push for mandatory paper-trail voting in every precinct.
November 12th, 2006 at 1:15 pmIn the 2000 election it was Florida that had GOP funded vote fraud, then in 2002 it was Georgia that had GOP funded vote fraud, then in 2004 it was Ohio that had GOP funded vote fraud, and now in 2006 election it was CT that had the GOP funded vote fraud for Joe Lieberman! The voters in CT have NO clue that cheating occurred for Joe, so I guess they join the dummy states club > lol.
November 12th, 2006 at 1:23 pmJoe Lieberman is an OLD ‘over the hill’ political has been. His opinions are meaningless as well as his ideas. If Lamont would have stuck to the ONE NOTE “IRAQ” he would be the Senator from Connecticut.
November 12th, 2006 at 1:26 pmOzkar
What the Senator from Tel Aviv who sheds our blood for his religion means is that he intends to do as he always does because he suckered his way back in.
November 12th, 2006 at 1:27 pmWhat is really galling is that now he call’s himself a Democrat after his Democrat constituents fired him
for cause.
Ned Lamont is a hero in my book. His Primary win scared the hell out of the GOP. Chris Shays (R-CT)was on a plane to Iraq before we could blink. He didn’t even wait to get home to call in to say things were not going well in Iraq representing an about face from his previous stay-the-course stand. Ned’s win in August got rid of the nonsense about criticizing the President’s policies at our peril. It got rid of that crap that we are unpatriotic when we want our kids out of harm’s way. Joe’s campaign was funded by a range of GOP interests including Washington lobbyists, financial service folks on Wall Street, plus a national network of Jewish groups (fundraisers for Joe in Florida) and Mayor Michael Bloomberg who sent advisers to and even campaigned on train platforms with Joe. We had to put up with Joe’s hired thugs at Lamont rallies.
November 12th, 2006 at 1:27 pm65% of Connecticut Democrats voted for Ned Lamont. Joe won with votes from Republicans and a few misguided dems. Ned Lamont said, “Don’t confuse experience with good judgement.” True on the war, true on Schaivo, true on support of public education, veterans benefits, Part D Prescription Drugs, and alternative energy policy. Joe is an emblem of the arrogance we all have hated about the Bush Administration. His decision to ignore the results of the Democratic Primary was outrageous and disgusting. Ned’s experience is no different than that of Corzine or Bloomberg. What governmental experience did they have?? What we need in this country is more people with the courage of Ned Lamont. He stepped up. He deserves the thanks of all of us. Ned Lamont is an American HERO!!
His stumbling over his words says it all.
November 12th, 2006 at 1:44 pmI think he is correct that neither party has a lock on the independent voters.
Comment by Joefriday — November 12, 2006 @ 12:51 pm
That’s why we’re Independents :)
November 12th, 2006 at 1:47 pmOne thing Liberman should try is less unconditional support of Israel in its misguided nationalism and more support of the true interests of the american people. Is he capable of that?
November 12th, 2006 at 1:51 pmWhat scumbag. The Democrats need to sideline Liebercon. He has nowhere to go. If he switched to the R’s all the Dems in CT that put him back in power will revolt. He is powerless and the new Dems need to recognize as such. I can’t figure out how the Democrats sweeping both houses is not a “major realignment.” The neocons are just trying to save a little face and we need to hold all of them accountable. There is no getting out of it by trying to blame Bush either, do you hear that Richard Perle?
November 12th, 2006 at 1:54 pmReguarding Joe Liebermen : As a Conn. Resident I would like to take this time to say to you all SORRY! and please forgive the voters of Conn. But please remember it was the Rep party that put Joe over the top.
November 12th, 2006 at 1:56 pmYou know I am sick and tired of Israel alway’s being brought to our attention by Ho LIEberman. I believe in Israel’s right to exist, I believe in Palestine’s right to exist. I believe in justice and fairness, I believe that Arabs are Semites too.
I also believe that this undying, and uncompromising loyalty to a state that existed before the United States was ever founded(biblical Israel),and didn’t exist as we now know it(Israel post 1948) when America WAS founded (think before you digest that) has no historical or bonds whatsoever.
LIEberman like most if not ALL politicians seem to care more about their allegiance to Israel than to this country THATS UNPATRIOTIC!!!!
NOT ANTI-SEMITIC!!!!!!
This is about AMERICA not ISRAEL. No need for hatrted #16, you can make this argument and win without it.
It’s about the 2800 plus (5 of mine) Soldiers killed
The over 50,000 plus (17 of mine) wounded
And the over 150,000 plus (forever) psychologically wounded
OVER A LIE!!!!
A lie that he and other’s (Dems included) voted for.
A lie that he continues to push, continues to stand by, continues to profit from, continues to peddle, AND FOR WHAT!! or better FOR WHOM!!
Because being sent there three times I DONT SEE ANY PROGRESS.
When WE go to Iraq, WE don’t stay in the Green Zone, WE dont have Blackwater and Triple Canopy protecting us and making $1000 a day, WE protect ourselves. WE dont stay in Saddam’s former palaces and hotels and see the pretty side of Baghdad and come back and say BullS@#$ like”they’re making real progress over there.”
If any of you (LIEberman and his ilk) were paying any attention, WE lost over 100 Soldiers and Marines last month AND THATS PROGRESS!!!
None of you support the troops cause if you did you would be screaming at these a$$ holes to get us out of here.
WE fight wars, WE get in, handle business, and get OUT. Noone wants to sit around and wait to die. But that is the strategy here, WAIT and DIE.
No Sir Mr. Lieberman, it is YOU (and his ilk ie. supporters) who are UNPATRIOTIC and don’t think WE didn’t pick up on that this fine VETERANS DAY weekend. You and those like you are the same people who look down on us troops when we’re out and about back home, you cut us off in traffic, you cut us in line at the store, you thumb your noses at us because you believe that we’re stupid, you rip us off(try) outside our posts, and bases, you exploit us when convienent (Tillman, Lynch).
But NONE of you(again the ilk) will over up your sons, daughters, nieces, nephews, brothers, sisters, husbands, wifes , aunts, uncles, cousins for this so-called JUST war.
Mr. Lieberman is a fool amongst plenty of fools, and it’s a pure shame that there are people out there in my home state of Connecticut (New Haven) who value this sad piece of a man over the THOUSANDS of stand up Soldiers, Airmen, and Marines who are STUCK between thousand year enemies so that he could save face with those who got us there in the first place.
The blood of ALL our Brothers and Sisters in arms rest with ALL of YOU (the ilk)
RIP
SGT Stephen R Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (Stryker)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Or as the President of the United so eloquently refers to him: comma #1492
Died because, according to Elizabeth Dole, Condileeza Rice and the ilk
November 12th, 2006 at 1:57 pm“Sadddam had in his focus Nuclear Weapons”
Here is the answer. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/pages/results/states/CT/S/01/epolls.0.html.
November 12th, 2006 at 1:59 pmWhat is strange is he “only” got 65% of the Jewish vote. He took the indendents and higher income. Still sad he won!
Ther GOP is no longer the party of Lincoln. Chafee, that is. It’s important to remember the differences between Lincoln Chafee and Joe Lieberman and to delve into why they’re both so undeserving of their respective fates.
If you don’t want to know what I have to say on the subject, at least read the explosive op-ed piece written by Chafee in today’s NY Times about a 2000 meeting between Cheney and moderate Republicans.
November 12th, 2006 at 2:00 pmThat’s why we’re Independents :)
Comment by unbelievable — November 12, 2006 @ 1:47 pm
I know that sounded “Duhhhh”, however, the rethugs had taken the independent vote for 12 years. Neither the Dems or rethugs can win without getting a good chunk of their votes.:) I see that the rethugs only gave JASON one day off for mental depression.
November 12th, 2006 at 2:04 pmWhy is it that Russert allowed two prime examples of why the neocons were routed on Tuesday to appear as the headliners on MTP this Sunday? How about spotlighting someone of the caliber of Amy Klobuchar or Claire McGaskill instead? Lieberman represents the past and what is wrong with the Senate today. Hey Tim, how about looking forward with people who are ready to implement the change that voters are demanding?
You can try recycling old warmongering hacks every show, but we’re still not buying in.
November 12th, 2006 at 2:05 pmSelf-centered Joe.
November 12th, 2006 at 2:06 pmIf the Repugs hadn’t supported him and supported their own guy, Joe would be gone.
He claims he is still a Democrat – but he sold his soul to the repugs.
Don’t know what went wrong. Just Googel “2006 exit polls”.
November 12th, 2006 at 2:12 pmWhen is this country going to wake up! Lieberman is in total support from Israel! Millions are pouring into this guy’s pocket from them. This guy is deeply rooted to them. Why are the dem’s so scared to bring this out! He is not for his state nor the US. He has no problem of American Boys dying for Israel or how much it is costing America!! This guy has alway’s been tied to the “NEOCONS”. Wake up for God Sake!
November 12th, 2006 at 2:22 pmReguarding Joe Liebermen : As a Conn. Resident I would like to take this time to say to you all SORRY! and please forgive the voters of Conn. But please remember it was the Rep party that put Joe over the top.
Comment by Rob
We know you tried, Rob. I live in Idaho, what can I say? Just wait until January, when the world gets a look at my new Represtative, Bill Sali.
*head hanging in shame*
November 12th, 2006 at 2:29 pmAlways remind Joe and the American people of “THE KISS“.
Lieberman is still a republican waterboy, don’t you ever forget it.
November 12th, 2006 at 2:43 pmLieberman: ‘This Was Not a Major Realignment Election’…
On Tuesday, Democrats picked up six seats in the Senate and at least 29 seats in the House, taking control of both chambers for the first time in 12 years. Not a single Democratic incumbent lost. Today on Meet the Press, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) said …
November 12th, 2006 at 2:56 pmI know that sounded “Duhhhhâ€,
Not at all… I was just being silly :)
however, the rethugs had taken the independent vote for 12 years. Neither the Dems or rethugs can win without getting a good chunk of their votes.:)
I completely agree. That ultimately, the Independents are the ones who determine who wins. BnF said that mathematically the bases on each end have about 30% each, whereas the Independents have the majority at about 40%. It was the Independents who voted for change in 1994, and again last week. But I’m not sure either party truly realizes this yet – as they try to play to the other side’s base – instead of to the middle.
I see that the rethugs only gave JASON one day off for mental depression.
Comment by Joefriday — November 12, 2006 @ 2:04 pm
Just long enough to give him his new talking points. They are just as ridiculous as the last round…
November 12th, 2006 at 2:56 pmThe Connecticut vote should be fine tooth combed for evidence of election fraud. Listening to Lieberman makes my skin crawl. How can reasonable voters in the Connecticut electorate cave in to the extent required to elect Lieberman?
The corporatist, Hillary Clinton, provided $50K cash and her “best†staff political advisor to provide fatal guidance to derail Ned Lamont’s continuing effort to overcome arch corporatist Joe Lieberman in the November seven election. Thus did Lamont unwisely departed his winning strategy that earned him his significant primary win. Except for Clinton’s “contributions†that killed Lamont’s successful strategy, Lieberman’s dramatic victory can only be explained by widespread vote fraud and other election irregularities. What are they?
Something is terribly wrong with the Connecticut election picture. The dynamics of Lamont’s loss need to be explored in depth and detail. The issues from now on need to be recast away from “liberal†versus “conservative†and “Republican†versus “Democrat,†and reframed to focus on “corporatist greed and power mongering†versus “progressive populist†values that support the needs of the middle class, and the common good for the nation. From now on the clarion call must become:
IT’S THE CORPORATIONS STUPID!!
November 12th, 2006 at 2:56 pmSenator Liberman’s comments may be viewed differently two months from now. It’s likely that the new Democratic leadership will secure bipartisan Congressional support for a few, if not all, of the 6 for 06 issues announced by Speaker Pelosi. That this new group of leaders will reach across the aisle is the key, and Liberman may help to accomplish that in the Senate.
This will expose the now deposed Republican Congressional leadership as having been out of step with its own Party, and support his point. The American people were fed up with the Gingrich, Lott, DeLay tactics that subordinated the will of the people to their hold on power. What Liberman is saying is that we must have national leaders who can win the support of the opposition to bring about badly needed change.
Clearly this applies to Iraq, but it also applies to health care, energy policy, education, and an equitable tax structure. The American people, we hope, will not stand for “Swift Boating” of those who present solutions to these problems for the sake of conferring power on a group of leaders. They want resolution not power grabs.
Regards.
November 12th, 2006 at 3:01 pmPost #71 – JoeFriday contains an extra character (period). Correct link is:
November 12th, 2006 at 3:10 pmhere. Thanks, Joe, just the kind of info requested.
Joe,
You chose to go for it as an independant…Most democrats don’t want you on our team…but of course neither do the republicans…you’re on your own, so don’t try speaking for anyone… Especially me.
November 12th, 2006 at 3:17 pmThe strategy of Lieberman and the White house is to ignore the results of the election and continue with huge military spending, occupation of the Middle East, beating the Palestinians into submission. They are in deep denial. People are pissed.
November 12th, 2006 at 3:20 pmJoe is the AIPAC lap dog and he will poison the new Democratic Majority. If the Dems were smart they would blackball him and not let him caucus with them at all. He is a DINO if ever there is one. Once a turncoat, always a turncoat.
November 12th, 2006 at 3:28 pmYou chose to go for it as an independant…Most democrats don’t want you on our team…but of course neither do the republicans…you’re on your own, so don’t try speaking for anyone… Especially me.
Comment by john
I am an independant (registered)
I almost always vote democratic
Funny that the local Democratic party had no issues with my volenteer work with the party this year.
You sir are a JERK.
November 12th, 2006 at 3:29 pmHoJo is the reason many Americans are so cynical about politics. After Ned Lamont won the primary he deserved the unequivocal support of all Dems. Joe was supported by lobbyists (particularly AIPAC), Republicans and probably defense contractors of all stripes. Its hard to see how he got one Democratic vote in the general election but I guess thats up to the voters in Connecticut. Now he’s posing as a Dem and they have to act like he’s one of the fellows or he’ll go over to the Rethugs and make them the majority. And the American people of all states have to listen to the sanctimonious SOB for the next six years saying we need more bipartisanship. Heres to you ugly Joe!
November 12th, 2006 at 3:47 pmTo clairify my post at 88
Vilify Joe for his stands and his water carrying for Bush.
But when you make a blanket statements about independants you are going to piss me off and piss off the largest block of American voters that do not feel that either party actually represents The true interests of Americans over corporate interests.
We ( the independant voter ) gave the democrats the chance to prove their salt this round. If they prove unworthy, we ( the independant voters ) will take it away from them again.
Demonize the word independant at your own peril.
November 12th, 2006 at 3:50 pmJoe Lieberman is a representation of the reason why most of the world hates the Jews.—- Truth
You go by the Moniker of Truth, let me give you some truth here.
I am part Native American, a halfbreed, that in the past halfbreed was a lable that meant someone who is less than human. Sometimes by even the native side of my people.
The native side of my people were treated by the government of MY country as less than human. Mass murder of whole tribes, unarmed women and children were common and medals for the soldiers that carried out the massaqres. The same people that children were beaten for speaking the language of. One of those languages turned the tide in WWII and helped us defeat a threat to the World.
WWII was a war against a manic that murdered millions of Jews. A People that have murdered in such manner throughout history, because they were Jews and deemed as less than Human.
Isreal keeps the Palistinians on a reservation. Much like the US keeps the Natives on reservations, that ironically both Isreal and the US are still trying to take the land away from both groups of less-than-human people.
Palestinians are being starved out of their own “reservation” today, as we speak. Women and children are shot in the streets.
This is the fault of Isreal, the government. There are more people of jewish desent in the US than Isreal today.
Lets stop this racist Bullsh*t and put blame on the proper group that are causing the problems today.
Racism eyes people as less-than-human and causes most of the problems we have to this day.
November 12th, 2006 at 5:06 pmReality is a harsh mistress. We beat Joe in the primary, but Joe regrouped and pulled together a coalition of lobyists, neo-cons, and Republicans. Some Connecticut liberals and moderates were offended by the zeal – sometimes enthusiastic zeal – with which Lieberman supported some of the GOP’s excesses. That led to the strong grassroots support for Lamont.
But other Dems, moderates, and independents, were more offended by what appeared to be a deep-seated personal hostility bordering on hatred of Joe that was not applied to other Dems who also folded on key Senate and House votes. The result is that within Connecticut Joe’s low point was the primary loss. The high point was the next day when this disparate group of supporters propelled him to the top as a not-so-independent candidate.
The danger zone for the Dems. We can’t ignore the fact that the so-called “Democratic Victory” in the Senate is a one vote victory and Joe’s vote counts as much as Tester, Webb, etc. So, the goal is win a couple more seats in 2008 to force Lieberman out of the kingmaker’s role and into the role of “cranky old man” for which he is much more suited. Until then, he does have some power that can’t be ignored. Lieberman has some serious “Zell Miller” potential and he knows it.
November 12th, 2006 at 5:21 pmJoe
November 12th, 2006 at 5:24 pmSay it ain’t so, Joe!
Poor Joe – he’s now doing Rove’s bidding by spouting the newest
Republican pablum that there was no “realignment” etc. Oh, really??
Well, when you line up your ebbing integrity with a back-door Republican
support apparatus in order in to keep your senate, there is probably not much else he can do.
Hey, why don’t Joe L, G W Bush, and Karl Rove do an little experiment in physical and moral courage, and (while letting deferment Dick Cheney presides temporarily) step away from their official “duties” and go to Iraq themselves and join the brave U.S. fighting forces in UNIFORM and bring democracy to that civil war torn country? Now that would be an alignment that Joe can discuss.
But, Ha! Don’t hold your breath, – patriots such as these never go near the front lines.
So, the goal is win a couple more seats in 2008 to force Lieberman out of the kingmaker’s role and into the role of “cranky old man†for which he is much more suited. Until then, he does have some power that can’t be ignored. Lieberman has some serious “Zell Miller†potential and he knows it.
—BobNJ2006
Excellent observation…
November 12th, 2006 at 5:28 pm#16 – “Joe Lieberman is a representation of the reason why most of the world hates the Jews…. ” Comment by Truth
******Your bigotry should make YOU a welcome addition among intolerant Progs. (Even tolerant Progs will welcome you as they tolerate EVERYTHING – except conservatism.)
Every pro-Palestinian supporter SAYS they support Israels right to exist – but wouldn’t be toooo bothered if “the Jews” were taken out by Holocaust seeking Islamo-wacks. (”Oh well…” shrug shoulders on cue…) These same phonies worry about baby seals and theTipton kangaroo mouse…
It is interesting to note that Joe votes exactly the way Dems want him to vote 98% of the time – but this should teach the rest of you – you have better tow the liberal line or you’ll get dumped PDQ. Overheard at Conn. Dem headquarters: ” Pro-abortion – check. Great union and education rating – check. Wants American and her allies protected – dump HIM….”
November 12th, 2006 at 5:31 pmFor reference, the exit polls for the Connecticutt Senate race are here
November 12th, 2006 at 5:51 pmYour bigotry should make YOU a welcome addition among intolerant Progs. (Even tolerant Progs will welcome you as they tolerate EVERYTHING – except conservatism.)-MA
I am a progressive and I condemmed his post at #91.
Guess that makes wrong.
Here is a progressive that called him on it.
Every pro-Palestinian supporter SAYS they support Israels right to exist – but wouldn’t be toooo bothered if “the Jews†were taken out by Holocaust seeking Islamo-wacks. (â€Oh well…†shrug shoulders on cue…) These same phonies worry about baby seals and theTipton kangaroo mouse…-MA
I support Israel’s ( I spell Isreal as in, IsReal? ) right to exhist, but condemm their actions toward the women and children being systematically starved and also shot dead in the streets. again see post #91.
It is interesting to note that Joe votes exactly the way Dems want him to vote 98% of the time – but this should teach the rest of you – you have better tow the liberal line or you’ll get dumped PDQ.—MA
The voters spoke and spoke as a majority against the Repugs and Bush. We progressives who are mostly independants spoke.
Joe is still senator and needs to realize he almost was not. He can be voted out and almost was.
Overheard at Conn. Dem headquarters: †Pro-abortion – check. Great union and education rating – check. Wants American and her allies protected – dump HIM….‖MA
I think you are talking trash here, prove that statement.
November 12th, 2006 at 5:59 pmWow! Check out Bartcop.com, issue 1875. (Sorry can’t give a unique url until Bart archives it in next day or three.)
Conspiracy Corner (2/3rds down) – Here’s something interesting…
In 2000, Joe Lieberman’s Republican challenger received 448,077 votes,
In 2006, Joe Lieberman’s Democratic challenger received – 448,077 votes
Hmmmmmm…
[by] Skip
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IF you check out the Bart page, the links to those voting numbers, that amazing ‘COINCIDENCE,” seems to hold true-
http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2000/2000senate.htm
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/pages/results/senate/
I have a hard time understanding Lieberman’s “win,” except to figure in- #1.) Conn. is home to the insurance industry, an extremely right-wing business, and career friends of Joe. Of course many company-town voters will instinctively vote FOR the candidate favored by their home-town business…
#2.) Lieberman got MILLIONS in donations from Republicans (including Texas billionaire Rick Perry, of “Swift Boat Veterans Against the Truth” infamy)
#3.) I read that Connecticut’s largest paper relentlessly gave Lieberman positive coverage, and Lamont NEGATIVE coverage;
#4.) Lamont did indeed loose some of his fizzle;
#5.) the huge, cohesive AIPAC vote; which of course “owns” Democratic senators Hillary, Lieberman, Feinstein, Schumer, (et al) and would move heaven and earth to retain any of them.
In selecting Joe Lieberman for his running mate, not only did Al Gore stick a none-to-subtle knife in the back of Bill Clinton (Gore stupidly BOUGHT INTO the right-wing “MORAL VALUES!” Jihad against Clinton, and selected THE Democratic leader, Lieberman, most outspoken in criticism of Clinton), but just as stupidly, Gore let his emotions prevail over political common sense: Clinton won the presideny in ‘92 by selecting a SOUTHERN moderate-liberal Democrat (Gore himself) as his running mate, and Gore could have won the White House in a walk by doing the same in ‘00. Instead, he turned off his own home-boy white male voters (even in Arkansas and home-state Tennessee!) by selecting Lieberman – who promptly REFUSED to give up his senate race, and then proceeded to sell Gore’s Florida election recount battle (and disenfranchised African-American voters) DOWN_THE_RIVER.
As post #16 posits, Lieberman is an example of the treachery that makes anti-semitism such an easy prejudice throughout the world. Sacha Baron Cohen’s movie this week portraying a Kazahk traveller (Borat) presenting his dinner hosts with a sock filled with s*** as a gift doesn’t help matters any, and indeed the townspeople where Cohen & crew filmed the movie are SUING for (what else) abuse of trust (”ambush comedy”) and failure to pay fully as promised.
ALONG WITH POWER comes RESPONSIBILITY, and it is sad and disgraceful to see Joe Lieberman BACK in the business of BETRAYING Democratic voters.
November 12th, 2006 at 6:01 pmThis loser compromised notion that Repubs were voted out, not Dems in is vacuous nonsense. Voters had party choices to make on their ballots/touchscreens, not rejection options. They were pissed and it so happened that they chose enough Blues to outdo the Reds (greater irony there isn’t for the commie bashers). Tipton kangaroo mouse?
November 12th, 2006 at 6:05 pmI am already tired of JOe’s mouth. Harry, give back the majority to the Senate rather than take this traitor on your side. Sure he votes mostly with Democrats on social issues, but foreign policy, pure neocon.
May as well have Bill Kristol as the representative from Connecticut.
The biggest hypocricy is that Joe, during the campaign, was promising all the great things he would do for his constituents. Guess what JOe? You’ve been in there for 18 years already. What the hell were you doing all this time? Go on and defect Joe. You are welcome over there.
Leiberman is more a representative of the State of Israel ( and the more conservative parties there!) than a rep of any US state.
November 12th, 2006 at 6:06 pmWhat is most troublesome about Joe Lieberman is that he couldn’t even give a straight-up answer to Tim Russert this morning when asked whether, under certain circumstances, he would switch and begin caucusing with the Republicans. His lame reply was that he didn’t want to get into hypotheticals. He has got the Democratic leadership by the nuts and he knows it, and he’s going to use it to advance his own agenda, the Democratic Party notwithstanding. It concerns me is that his own agenda will probably tend to be the same as that of the powerful Israel lobby in the U.S. The Jewish faith is just another religion to me but while Lieberman, an orthodox Jew, continued his stubborn support for the war in Iraq and Bush’s failing policy, all other Democratic leaders were denouncing it; that always appeared very suspicious. I suspect there are many who share this suspicion in Washington but would never dare say so. And with all the demographic breakdowns of the various elections results, I’ve yet to see any which reveals the strength of the Jewish vote for Lieberman in Connecticut. It might be instructive. It’s a pity that a man so wanting in character will, because of his unique status, wield more power than most of his peers.
November 12th, 2006 at 6:18 pmWow! Check out Bartcop.com, issue 1875. (Sorry can’t give a unique url until Bart archives it in next day or three.)
Conspiracy Corner (2/3rds down) – Here’s something interesting…
In 2000, Joe Lieberman’s Republican challenger received 448,077 votes,
In 2006, Joe Lieberman’s Democratic challenger received – 448,077
—-Verifi
That should be a BIG RED FLAG for a voter fraud investigation.
As post #16 posits, Lieberman is an example of the treachery that makes anti-semitism such an easy prejudice throughout the world.
Racism is at the root of most of todays problems, along with Organized Religions trying to subvert governments to Theocracies, even here in the US. Racists and Theocracy supporters see groups of people as less-than-human and thus ARE the problem.
I condemm the racist statement made at #16.
November 12th, 2006 at 6:20 pmThese same phonies worry about baby seals and theTipton kangaroo mouse…-MA
MA was for clubbing the brains out of baby seals, before she was for clubbing the brains out of baby seals.
Glad to see your priorities set out straight there.
November 12th, 2006 at 6:47 pmSo who does have control of the Senate? What party is Lieberbush? Who picks the committee chairs?
November 12th, 2006 at 6:52 pmLieberman knows nothing about patriotism. Every single person who opposed the war from the get go (Pelosi for example) is a bigger patriot than Lieberman who would have muzzled every Senator opposed to the war. It’s inexcusable that he criticized senators on the senate floor. Their primary job is OVERSIGHT. Lieberman should be impeached for breaching his constitutional duty of oversight and checking the presidency, and for his attempt to obstruct other senators trying to do just that in their opposition to the Iraq invasion. Loserman doesn’t have the first clue what it means to be a patriot. He and the rest of the Bush Administration need a remedial course in true patriotism, which means the right to dissention and free speech; they need to study the U.S. Constitution. It’s not just a piece of paper; it’s their job requirements.
November 12th, 2006 at 7:01 pmWhat I really want to know – WHY weren’t the Democratic leaders on MTP today? Russert said they were invited but didn’t make it. It seems awfully odd not to take advantage of the air time.
November 12th, 2006 at 8:27 pmWHY weren’t the Democratic leaders on MTP today? Russert said they were invited but didn’t make it.
— bren
Probably took them by supprise,
They didn’t recover from the shock in time to appear..
How many times has any true opposition voice really been asked onto MTP in the last 6 years?
I am amazed they(MSM) televised the press meeting with the new majority leaders
November 12th, 2006 at 11:28 pmNovember 13th, 2006 at 12:35 am
i am the kind of elderlyliberal who snorts liberal press, liberal books and liberal politics. But even though I firmly believe in an unfettered exercise of the First Amendment, like the cliche “you don’t yell fire in a crowded theater” I believe that you don’t yell anti-semetic hatred on a liberal blog and the chief blogger should censor such destructive stuff always. I tune in on Huffington so I can find some order in the public opinion world…not to get angry over such a malignancy as anti-semitism
November 13th, 2006 at 12:43 amNot one incumbent Democrat lost their seat. NOT ONE!
What a MO – RON.
Get the Hell out of the way, Joe so real Democrats can do what they do best: FIX THE G**DA** COUNTY!
November 13th, 2006 at 1:15 amhttp://www.theindyvoice.com/2006/11/13/its-the-backlash-stupid.html
November 13th, 2006 at 1:18 amIt’s the Backlash, Stupid
November 13th, 2006 at 1:20 amJoe is a member of the JOP—Joe’s Own Party. He speaks for no one but himself, he is not to be trusted by Democrats.
November 13th, 2006 at 2:23 amUncle Joe represents the worst of American politics, but he is right on one point. The “mandate” of this election was a rejection of Republican incompetence and corruption, more than an embrace of the broader Democrat or progressive agenda.
The mood of America, particularly in places like Connecticut, is more “centrist” rather than “conservative” or “progressive” and Joe found the electorate’s G-spot.
His re-election brings to mind H.L. Mencken’s comment about democracy being “the theory that the people ought to get the government they want — and get it good and hard.”
November 13th, 2006 at 2:49 amJoe does have his finger on the pulse.
We got the Repugs out.
Now it’s time to reform the Democratic Party,
–or in ‘08 the Greens will split the vote, big time.
When we get serious about removing the corporate financial control of our politics, the DLC will evaporate. Only the short-sighted, and complacent will sit back and enjoy this victory.
November 13th, 2006 at 4:07 amTHIS IS ONLY THE FIRST STEP.
To recapture representative democracy, we’ve great work yet to accomplish.
ONE DOWN, ONE TO GO!
Looking at his picture I thought-they should be all made to wear corporate sponsors patches on their clothes like in NASCAR racing. Can’t you just see it?
November 13th, 2006 at 7:48 amJoe is exactly correct. I am a freedom loving liberal who has always voted democrat. Joe is correct – if we don’t get some bipartisan working of problems, then the dems will be thrown out for failure just like the repugs.
November 13th, 2006 at 8:13 amJust another politician who has sold out his sagging ass.
November 13th, 2006 at 8:33 amJoe Schmoe the Republican hoe.
November 13th, 2006 at 9:21 amI fear that Mr. Lieberman could prove to be the undoing of any genuinely progressive Democratic agenda. He is in the catbird seat with an opportunity (given the evenly divided Senate) to play power broker. He probably still has presidential ambitions; and he has proved that he is only too happy to seek support from any quarter in furtherance of his overblown ambitions.
November 13th, 2006 at 10:50 amJoeBlow is a political WHORE. Press the Meat is a crap propaganda farce.
November 13th, 2006 at 11:48 amNot all Jews are members of the milartaristic Likud Party just as not all Americans are neo-cons. Traitor Joe is both. PLEASE watch this film. . .
November 13th, 2006 at 12:12 pmhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7828123714384920696
“Peace, Propaganda and the Middle East”
The Likuds and Neo-Cons have brought us to the threshold of WWIII.
P.S. Lieberman also wants to “Reign In” the internet. Hmmm. . . .
Lincoln Chafee WAS the Republican Senator from Rhode Island. He had a 63% approval rating and even though he did NOT vote for Bush and opposed many of his policies including the invasion and occupation of Iraq, voters still booted him from office. Why? It’s the backlash, stupid! Democrats may fail to learn the lessons of the 2006 midterms at their party’s peril. Click: It’s the Backlash
November 13th, 2006 at 2:43 pmJoe is a much better senator than Ned would have ever been.
BTW, in ref #9, you will NOT be able to do anything about it in 2008, unless he passes away, the term for a senator is 6 years.
I do note a lot of vicious posts that I would LOVE to see posted in the daily papers of each American City. So they can see the filth and viciousness that the progressives harbor, and why they should not be allowed to keep ANY power. They whine that repugs won’t work with them, but I can see it now, in NO way will they ever work with anyone else. It’s their way, or the high way, unless their not in power, then it needs to be “shared”.
What a bunch of loser, crass, sophmoric, Copralite for brains, misfits. You do yourself more damage than any neocon could ever do.
November 13th, 2006 at 3:50 pmDouglas @ 124
I think what he meant was that further Dem gains in the Senate in 2008 seem very possible, given the large discrepancy in challenged seats and where they are located. Once the Dems get off the 51-49 schneid, with each additional seat Joe becomes more and more marginalized.
I gotta love your framing of the reaction to Joe Lieberman’s viciousness (it wasn’t Lamont who called his opponent a jerk and said he was for the terrorists) as some kind of progressive refusal to work with anyone else. Was there a big movement to oust ANY other conservative Democrat in Congress this year? NO. And you know why? Because other conservatives vote their conscience but support their party. Joe votes his interest, and shivs his party whenever he feels it helps him.
Progressives refuse traitors, as they should. Just because there’s a D by his name, doesn’t mean he wasn’t the EXACT SAME kind of shameless Bush-enabler and sycophant as those many Rs.
November 13th, 2006 at 5:21 pmI think its funny how Liebermann is trying to take on the role of being an Independent candidate and placing the two parties “on probation.” Since when did he become the policeman of American politics?
November 14th, 2006 at 2:00 amJoe is a Democrat to the end. He has destroyed Connecticut like you Democrats love to do (2nd highest taxes in the nation). The fact that you people trash him so bad shows how you have to tow the party line in all respects or get kicked to the curb. You people are so far left you would not know cooperation, bipartisanship or even reality if it sh!t on your face.
He agreed with Bush once “Gee, I’m Jewish and these people want all Jews dead. So I guess the war is not too badâ€. And you people make him out to be Bush’s butt-boy.
November 14th, 2006 at 1:05 pm