Comments on: Media Matters tells the tale of two covers: http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:03:55 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Pangloss http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/comment-page-2/#comment-1141042 Pangloss Thu, 16 Nov 2006 07:42:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/#comment-1141042 That doesn't look like anti-Democrat bias to me. Rather, it looks like scary rampaging mad Republican elephants on the left, ready to destroy the country, and when the Democrats win on the right it's an example of the country righting (lefting?) itself with a shift to the center. Ahhh... peace... Or are you the kind of people who prefer rampaging mad elephants to peaceful intersecting circles? That doesn’t look like anti-Democrat bias to me. Rather, it looks like scary rampaging mad Republican elephants on the left, ready to destroy the country, and when the Democrats win on the right it’s an example of the country righting (lefting?) itself with a shift to the center. Ahhh… peace…

Or are you the kind of people who prefer rampaging mad elephants to peaceful intersecting circles?

]]> By: Destardi http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/comment-page-2/#comment-1129858 Destardi Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:15:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/#comment-1129858 ...that's what I've been arguing all along...dems were corrupt/imbedded, which is why the reps won in 1994...it's the role, just reversed. It PISSES ME OFF that they question or brush off that the Dems won control...They won. Period. …that’s what I’ve been arguing all along…dems were corrupt/imbedded, which is why the reps won in 1994…it’s the role, just reversed.

It PISSES ME OFF that they question or brush off that the Dems won control…They won. Period.

]]> By: ProgressiveKen http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/comment-page-2/#comment-1129346 ProgressiveKen Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:34:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/#comment-1129346 <a href="http://www.backstage.com/bso/news_reviews/multimedia/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003285440" rel="nofollow">As it stands, six companies own 90 percent of the media holdings in the United States:</a> Viacom, which owns Paramount, CBS, MTV Networks, and DreamWorks; Disney, whose subsidiaries include ABC, Miramax, Pixar, Touchstone, Walt Disney Studios, and Walt Disney Theatrical; Time Warner, parent company of Warner Bros., HBO, half of the CW (co-owned with CBS Corp.), CNN, and AOL; General Electric, which owns NBC Universal; Bertelsmann, whose holdings include Sony and BMG Music Publishing; and News Corp., owner of 20th Century Fox, Fox Broadcasting, MyNetworkTV, FX Networks, and MySpace. The men at the helm of those corporations are, respectively, Sumner Redstone, Robert Iger, Richard Parsons, Jeffrey R. Immelt, Carl Bertelsmann, and Rupert Murdoch. As it stands, six companies own 90 percent of the media holdings in the United States:

Viacom, which owns Paramount, CBS, MTV Networks, and DreamWorks; Disney, whose subsidiaries include ABC, Miramax, Pixar, Touchstone, Walt Disney Studios, and Walt Disney Theatrical; Time Warner, parent company of Warner Bros., HBO, half of the CW (co-owned with CBS Corp.), CNN, and AOL; General Electric, which owns NBC Universal; Bertelsmann, whose holdings include Sony and BMG Music Publishing; and News Corp., owner of 20th Century Fox, Fox Broadcasting, MyNetworkTV, FX Networks, and MySpace. The men at the helm of those corporations are, respectively, Sumner Redstone, Robert Iger, Richard Parsons, Jeffrey R. Immelt, Carl Bertelsmann, and Rupert Murdoch.

]]> By: vwcat http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/comment-page-2/#comment-1129339 vwcat Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:29:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/#comment-1129339 geez, they couldn't even spring for a decent illustrator. geez, they couldn’t even spring for a decent illustrator.

]]> By: ProgressiveKen http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/comment-page-2/#comment-1129331 ProgressiveKen Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:28:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/#comment-1129331 <a href="http://www.thenation.com/doc/19991129/mcchesney/3" rel="nofollow">The New Global Media: It's a Small World of Big Conglomerates </a> The New Global Media: It’s a Small World of Big Conglomerates

]]> By: Bluedog49 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/comment-page-2/#comment-1128413 Bluedog49 Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:41:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/#comment-1128413 No Democratic incumbents lost their seats. To our liberal mainstream media, this shows an obvious bipartisan revulsion. No Democratic incumbents lost their seats. To our liberal mainstream media, this shows an obvious bipartisan revulsion.

]]> By: Big Picnic » The 2006 Election was all about Americans Proudly Embracing the Whig’s Advocacy of the Gold Standard http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/comment-page-1/#comment-1128370 Big Picnic » The 2006 Election was all about Americans Proudly Embracing the Whig’s Advocacy of the Gold Standard Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:27:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/#comment-1128370 [...] Then there’s TIME’s interpretation: that the 2006 election is best represented by two equally sized circles representing American’s neutral rejection of both parties equally. How else to interpret it? I mean, the democrats only took the house, senate, and majority of governorships and state legislatures. Let’s call it even. Actually, since Americans didn’t rise up and violently overthrow all conservative judges, it was actually something of a Republican win. [...] [...] Then there’s TIME’s interpretation: that the 2006 election is best represented by two equally sized circles representing American’s neutral rejection of both parties equally. How else to interpret it? I mean, the democrats only took the house, senate, and majority of governorships and state legislatures. Let’s call it even. Actually, since Americans didn’t rise up and violently overthrow all conservative judges, it was actually something of a Republican win. [...]

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/comment-page-1/#comment-1128335 Marie Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:12:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/#comment-1128335 It's so hard for the MSM to see how wrong they have been; they can't bring themselves to say the Dems won. MSM editors are spineless, carefully avoiding any confrontation with their corporate owners. It’s so hard for the MSM to see how wrong they have been; they can’t bring themselves to say the Dems won.
MSM editors are spineless, carefully avoiding any confrontation with their corporate owners.

]]> By: Wayne http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/comment-page-1/#comment-1128298 Wayne Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:03:44 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/#comment-1128298 Of course we would have to give you all the Lib Repugs. Repugs lost because they weren’t acting like conservatives. Dems won because most all of them ran as conservatives.---- Roger_roger The repugs lost because they were acting like common criminal thugs and were hypocritical in following their own talking points and "family values". BTW, after 12 years, how are those promises made in the "Contract with America" working out? Not well, huh? Thats why America followed Newt's words and threw them out. What do you call a republican that makes a promise? Answer ----- a liar. Of course we would have to give you all the Lib Repugs. Repugs lost because they weren’t acting like conservatives. Dems won because most all of them ran as conservatives.—- Roger_roger

The repugs lost because they were acting like common criminal thugs and were hypocritical in following their own talking points and “family values”.

BTW, after 12 years, how are those promises made in the “Contract with America” working out? Not well, huh?
Thats why America followed Newt’s words and threw them out.

What do you call a republican that makes a promise?
Answer —– a liar.

]]> By: DenverOasis http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/comment-page-1/#comment-1128213 DenverOasis Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:38:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/#comment-1128213 #23 - excellent point! #23 – excellent point!

]]> By: gorn http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/comment-page-1/#comment-1128097 gorn Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:14:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/#comment-1128097 #49 bluedog <blockquote>"All 27 Democrats who beat out Repubs support increasing the minimum wage, universal health care, stem cell funding and getting out of Iraq one way or another. Four of them call themselves “pro-life” but are “liberal” on most other issues."</blockquote> I agree, however this is not proof that they won because of their "liberal" positions. That <em>may </em>be the case, but it is equally or more plausible that the centrists voted Democratic for entirely other reasons - to restore checks and balances, to eliminate extremest neocon and christofascists control, disgust over the handling of the war, and as punishment for the Republican fiscal failure. In my view, it was: vote for the Democrat or vote for the continuing incompetance, corruption, and failure. None of that has to do with liberal vs conservative. Democrats should push some key agenda items, I agree, but they will be making a grievous error to assume that the majority of the electorate will go for some quasi-socialist agenda. Other than universal health care, there is nothing intrinsically liberal about the items you list: long-overdue improvement in the minimum wage, supporting stem cell research, doing something less brain-dead about the situation in Iraq - these are all centrist-friendly notions. Universal health care has a shot, but only if it's presented in some pragmatic fashion that will appeal to the 30% in the middle. #49 bluedog

“All 27 Democrats who beat out Repubs support increasing the minimum wage, universal health care, stem cell funding and getting out of Iraq one way or another. Four of them call themselves “pro-life” but are “liberal” on most other issues.”

I agree, however this is not proof that they won because of their “liberal” positions. That may be the case, but it is equally or more plausible that the centrists voted Democratic for entirely other reasons – to restore checks and balances, to eliminate extremest neocon and christofascists control, disgust over the handling of the war, and as punishment for the Republican fiscal failure.

In my view, it was: vote for the Democrat or vote for the continuing incompetance, corruption, and failure. None of that has to do with liberal vs conservative.

Democrats should push some key agenda items, I agree, but they will be making a grievous error to assume that the majority of the electorate will go for some quasi-socialist agenda. Other than universal health care, there is nothing intrinsically liberal about the items you list: long-overdue improvement in the minimum wage, supporting stem cell research, doing something less brain-dead about the situation in Iraq – these are all centrist-friendly notions. Universal health care has a shot, but only if it’s presented in some pragmatic fashion that will appeal to the 30% in the middle.

]]> By: bye bye GOP http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/comment-page-1/#comment-1128049 bye bye GOP Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:02:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/#comment-1128049 Not a big surprise there. Joe Klein has his lips firmly placed on Karl Rove's tiny little nutsack. Not a big surprise there. Joe Klein has his lips firmly placed on Karl Rove’s tiny little nutsack.

]]> By: Bluedog49 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/comment-page-1/#comment-1127936 Bluedog49 Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:37:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/#comment-1127936 RogerRoger: "Give the “conservatives” Liebermann and every single Dem that ran as a conservative and you wouldn’t be in charge of either part of congress." As usual, long on feelings, short on facts. All 27 Democrats who beat out Repubs support increasing the minimum wage, universal health care, stem cell funding and getting out of Iraq one way or another. Four of them call themselves "pro-life" but are "liberal" on most other issues. And, Roger, I know you're challenged on the facts because of the news outlets you use, but not one incumbent Demo lost his or her job so the revulsion was NOT bipartisan. RogerRoger: “Give the “conservatives” Liebermann and every single Dem that ran as a conservative and you wouldn’t be in charge of either part of congress.”

As usual, long on feelings, short on facts. All 27 Democrats who beat out Repubs support increasing the minimum wage, universal health care, stem cell funding and getting out of Iraq one way or another. Four of them call themselves “pro-life” but are “liberal” on most other issues. And, Roger, I know you’re challenged on the facts because of the news outlets you use, but not one incumbent Demo lost his or her job so the revulsion was NOT bipartisan.

]]> By: JaneESchneider http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/comment-page-1/#comment-1127925 JaneESchneider Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:35:44 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/#comment-1127925 'Night, Squeege! ‘Night, Squeege!

]]> By: Dave http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/comment-page-1/#comment-1127896 Dave Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:26:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/#comment-1127896 Rmbgh... Sorry, I just threw up a little... in my mouth. Rmbgh… Sorry, I just threw up a little… in my mouth.

]]> By: JIMBO http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/comment-page-1/#comment-1127875 JIMBO Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:22:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/#comment-1127875 By the way, isn't Richard Parsons, the head of Time/Warner, a republican? If that's so, was he behind this sorry piece of shit that's on the cover? By the way, isn’t Richard Parsons, the head of Time/Warner, a republican? If that’s so, was he behind this sorry piece of shit that’s on the cover?

]]> By: JIMBO http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/comment-page-1/#comment-1127859 JIMBO Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:20:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/#comment-1127859 Of course, Newsweek is living a world of illusion if they also think that Daddy Bush will save Chimpy's skin. If they think so, then, they too, like Time, are full of shit. Rollling Stone, The Nation and Mother Jones will tell the truth, thank you. Of course, Newsweek is living a world of illusion if they also think that Daddy Bush will save Chimpy’s skin. If they think so, then, they too, like Time, are full of shit.

Rollling Stone, The Nation and Mother Jones will tell the truth, thank you.

]]> By: JaneESchneider http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/comment-page-1/#comment-1127806 JaneESchneider Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:11:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/#comment-1127806 Squegeeboo, do you remember I-R-I? Jason is just more polite. Squegeeboo, do you remember I-R-I? Jason is just more polite.

]]> By: the fly-man http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/comment-page-1/#comment-1127734 the fly-man Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:58:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/#comment-1127734 Ah the ego of the media. Well of course the media stays relevant by dividing and conquering. How utterly brilliant for the winners to become so just by leaning towards the losers pole. The media also found out what's it's like to pick sides. Fox news is the real loser in all of this. People finally got tired of total bullshit trashing of real people. Someone has to run this country, not just a bunch of canned principles. Ah the ego of the media. Well of course the media stays relevant by dividing and conquering. How utterly brilliant for the winners to become so just by leaning towards the losers pole. The media also found out what’s it’s like to pick sides. Fox news is the real loser in all of this. People finally got tired of total bullshit trashing of real people. Someone has to run this country, not just a bunch of canned principles.

]]> By: Karim http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/comment-page-1/#comment-1127722 Karim Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:57:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/media-matters-tells-the-tale-of-two-covers/#comment-1127722 So much for the liberal media. So much for the liberal media.

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