Comments on: Frist’s Post-Election Revelation: We Are ‘Not Winning’ In Iraq http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:15:46 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: mame http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-1202514 mame Thu, 30 Nov 2006 08:55:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/#comment-1202514 The dems are the glue that will make the government better. Bill Frist made billions for his family, while in office and in the next few days because of his corrupt dealings millions of people will be caught in the so called doughnut hole. Thank you Bush and Frist. They will have to pay 100 percent for thier precriptions. Thank You. And Frists famiy makes billions! He knows he has done wrong but where is the apology? The dems are the glue that will make the government better. Bill Frist made billions for his family, while in office and in the next few days because of his corrupt dealings millions of people will be caught in the so called doughnut hole. Thank you Bush and Frist. They will have to pay 100 percent for thier precriptions. Thank You. And Frists famiy makes billions! He knows he has done wrong but where is the apology?

]]> By: mame http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-1202456 mame Thu, 30 Nov 2006 08:38:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/#comment-1202456 Bill Frist is not someone to ask about the war. He is being investigated for inside trading. His family has made BILLIONS OF DOLLARS because of his corrupt dealings . He has hurt our old people !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bill Frist is not someone to ask about the war. He is being investigated for inside trading. His family has made BILLIONS OF DOLLARS because of his corrupt dealings . He has hurt our old people !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Dave Bowman http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-1143065 Dave Bowman Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:36:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/#comment-1143065 All you "Do the Dems have a plan for Iraq" parrots are hysterical. You have no sense of proportion. Let's seeee..... You have a daughter with two suitors. The first one kidnaps her, rapes her, gives her to his buddies to rape, slashes her face, cuts out her tongue and then keeps her tied up in a pit in the backyard. And you stand there saying, "Hmmmm, I don't know if the second guy makes enough money for my little girl." You right-wingnuts are idiots. _Hundreds_ of BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars (YOUR money that you worked HARD to earn) have disappeared from the Iraq budget, with no ability to get them back, let alone find out who stole them, and you still crow about "those scary muslims." Just do us all a favor & indenture yourself & your family to the pentagon right now, and stay out of the way of Patriotic Americans. All you “Do the Dems have a plan for Iraq” parrots are hysterical. You have no sense of proportion.

Let’s seeee….. You have a daughter with two suitors. The first one kidnaps her, rapes her, gives her to his buddies to rape, slashes her face, cuts out her tongue and then keeps her tied up in a pit in the backyard. And you stand there saying, “Hmmmm, I don’t know if the second guy makes enough money for my little girl.”

You right-wingnuts are idiots. _Hundreds_ of BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars (YOUR money that you worked HARD to earn) have disappeared from the Iraq budget, with no ability to get them back, let alone find out who stole them, and you still crow about “those scary muslims.” Just do us all a favor & indenture yourself & your family to the pentagon right now, and stay out of the way of Patriotic Americans.

]]> By: hobojo http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-1142998 hobojo Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:08:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/#comment-1142998 ROGER--i AM SURE THEY HAVE A UNIFORM THAT WILL FIT YOUR SORRY ASS.ALL THEY NEED TO DO IS CUT A HOLE IN THE SEAT FOR THE CHICKEN HAWK FEATHERS TO PROTRUDE.THE IRAQS DON'T WANT US THERE ONLY BUSH CHENEY AND BIG OIL KEEP THIS FARCE GOING AND FOOLS LIKE YOU. ROGER–i AM SURE THEY HAVE A UNIFORM THAT WILL FIT YOUR SORRY ASS.ALL THEY NEED TO DO IS CUT A HOLE IN THE SEAT FOR THE CHICKEN HAWK FEATHERS TO PROTRUDE.THE IRAQS DON’T WANT US THERE ONLY BUSH CHENEY AND BIG OIL KEEP THIS FARCE GOING AND FOOLS LIKE YOU.

]]> By: MAGDALENA VILLARONGA http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-1139051 MAGDALENA VILLARONGA Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:32:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/#comment-1139051 <blockquote>FRIST IS A "VELETA".. A WINDMILL BLOWN BY THE WINDS OF TIME... HOPE HIS AMBITIONS WILL BE DASHED TO SMITHEREENS. THANK GOD FOR CLINTON, MURTHA, HILLARY, KERRY, FEINSTEIN, PELOSI,DEAN, ETC. ETC. ETC.</blockquote>

FRIST IS A “VELETA”.. A WINDMILL BLOWN BY THE WINDS OF TIME… HOPE HIS AMBITIONS WILL BE DASHED TO SMITHEREENS. THANK GOD FOR CLINTON, MURTHA, HILLARY, KERRY, FEINSTEIN, PELOSI,DEAN, ETC. ETC. ETC.

]]> By: MAGDALENA VILLARONGA http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-1139039 MAGDALENA VILLARONGA Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:29:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/#comment-1139039 FRIST IS WHAT IN SPANISH WOULD BE CALLED,A "VELETA". RESPONDING TO THE WING THAT HITS IT. I HOPE THAT WITH THAT TURN AROUND HIS AMBITIONS ARE DASHED TO SMITHERINS... THANK GOD FOR THE DEMOCRATS, FOR CLINTON, KERRY, HILLARY, PELOSI, FEINSTEIN, ETC. ETC. FRIST IS WHAT IN SPANISH WOULD BE CALLED,A “VELETA”. RESPONDING TO THE WING THAT HITS IT. I HOPE THAT WITH THAT TURN AROUND HIS AMBITIONS ARE DASHED TO SMITHERINS… THANK GOD FOR THE DEMOCRATS, FOR CLINTON, KERRY, HILLARY, PELOSI, FEINSTEIN, ETC. ETC.

]]> By: jkr http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-1138114 jkr Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:07:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/#comment-1138114 Everyone knows Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 - The point was since people (like Trent Lott) can't tell Shiites from Sunnis, because they all look alike, the same goes for Iraqis & Saudis (most of the hijackers were Saudi), so we got to take revenge against anyone who LOOKS similar to bin Laden's crew. Now that the Sunnis & Shiites in Iraq are attacking our guys for attacking their homeland, we really get to lump them altogether. Everyone knows Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 – The point was since people (like Trent Lott) can’t tell Shiites from Sunnis, because they all look alike, the same goes for Iraqis & Saudis (most of the hijackers were Saudi), so we got to take revenge against anyone who LOOKS similar to bin Laden’s crew. Now that the Sunnis & Shiites in Iraq are attacking our guys for attacking their homeland, we really get to lump them altogether.

]]> By: michele crittenden http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-1138075 michele crittenden Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:50:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/#comment-1138075 commenting on number 131 by james risser. The people who attacked us were not the people we are killing in Iraq. Iraq had nothing to do with 911 the Bush administration just wanted to link the two together. commenting on number 131 by james risser. The people who attacked us were not the people we are killing in Iraq. Iraq had nothing to do with 911 the Bush administration just wanted to link the two together.

]]> By: pete http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-1137704 pete Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:36:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/#comment-1137704 roger roger, bush invaded iraq, he is the one who must have the retreat plan for iraq, not the dems.. the buck stops at the chimps desk. roger roger, bush invaded iraq, he is the one who must have the retreat plan for iraq, not the dems..
the buck stops at the chimps desk.

]]> By: jkr http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-1137645 jkr Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:18:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/#comment-1137645 We won the war in Iraq - we did regime change. Saddam is not in power. Elections have been held so democracy fluorishes. We have done everything we were told were our goals. We have shown the Muslim world what happens when America is attacked (I think Tren Lott said it best he can't tell Siites from Sunnis, they all have the same skin color), we have killed countless times more of "them" than "they" killed of us. Of course, now another nearly 3000 Americans have died (and lots more wounded), so we have to stay around to avenge those additional casualties. Doesn't seem to end, does it? What is it we're out to "win"? We won the war in Iraq – we did regime change. Saddam is not in power. Elections have been held so democracy fluorishes. We have done everything we were told were our goals. We have shown the Muslim world what happens when America is attacked (I think Tren Lott said it best he can’t tell Siites from Sunnis, they all have the same skin color), we have killed countless times more of “them” than “they” killed of us. Of course, now another nearly 3000 Americans have died (and lots more wounded), so we have to stay around to avenge those additional casualties. Doesn’t seem to end, does it? What is it we’re out to “win”?

]]> By: james risser http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-1137529 james risser Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:37:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/#comment-1137529 testing... testing…

]]> By: ozymandius2 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-1137179 ozymandius2 Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:09:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/#comment-1137179 no s___ Bill. And you wonder why the nation wonders about the ability of the Republican party to lead the nation? no s___ Bill. And you wonder why the nation wonders about the ability of the Republican party to lead the nation?

]]> By: Audrey http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-1137082 Audrey Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:34:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/#comment-1137082 "War, at first, is the hope that one will be better off; next, the expectation that the other fellow will be worse off; then, the satisfaction that he isn't any better off; and, finally, the surprise at everyone's being worse off." --Karl Kraus, writer (1874-1936) “War, at first, is the hope that one will be better off; next, the expectation that the other fellow will be worse off; then, the satisfaction that he isn’t any better off; and, finally, the surprise at everyone’s being worse off.”
–Karl Kraus, writer (1874-1936)

]]> By: Earl http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-1137053 Earl Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:25:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/#comment-1137053 Bush's grand experiment for Democracy in Iraq failed because it had a zero chance of suceeding in the first place. The middle east is so immersed in religious superstition nothing short of depopulation could ever work. It's been tried over and over. Any change to the governing will have to come within to be successful. The neocons and the Bush administration had their heads up there collective asses to even consider such an idea, a quick glance at middle east history would confirm this, it's been tried and failed many times. Daddy Bush didn't go into Bagdad for that very reason. The only thing left to do is for the U.S. to get out as fast as possible. Bush’s grand experiment for Democracy in Iraq failed because it had a zero chance of suceeding in the first place. The middle east is so immersed in religious superstition nothing short of depopulation could ever work. It’s been tried over and over. Any change to the governing will have to come within to be successful. The neocons and the Bush administration had their heads up there collective asses to even consider such an idea, a quick glance at middle east history would confirm this, it’s been tried and failed many times. Daddy Bush didn’t go into Bagdad for that very reason. The only thing left to do is for the U.S. to get out as fast as possible.

]]> By: Karim http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-1136965 Karim Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:58:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/#comment-1136965 oh this is excellent...seeing the Repugs squirm like this. oh this is excellent…seeing the Repugs squirm like this.

]]> By: Leo Strauss http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-1136802 Leo Strauss Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:03:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/#comment-1136802 I JUST LOVE THE REPUBLICANS THAT ASK WHAT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE FOR A PLAN FOR VICTORY IN IRAQ. BUSH MADE THIS MESS. THIS WAS, AND IS A WAR OF CHOICE, A WAR OF CONVIENENCE. I JUST LOVE THE REPUBLICANS THAT ASK WHAT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE FOR A PLAN FOR VICTORY IN IRAQ.

BUSH MADE THIS MESS. THIS WAS, AND IS A WAR OF CHOICE, A WAR OF CONVIENENCE.

]]> By: Chris http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-1136799 Chris Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:02:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/#comment-1136799 There are many goals that need to be achieved for a free and democratic government in Iraq, but these are not mlitary goals. Tank gunners don't write tax law. Artillerymen and Infantry mortarmen are not trained in setting up political processes or designing geo-political strategy. Yes, there is still much to do in order to achieve "victory" in Iraq, but these tasks are not tasks of the military. Bringing our troops home would be a good first step in acheiving peace in the region. The presence of US troops in Iraq draws the exact radical groups in that we are needing to keep out. Also, please realize that if the Iraqis are free, then they are free to hate the US and Israel, even though we may not like that. They are free to elect a radical Shia government, if that is what the majority want. They are free to ally with Iran and Syria, just as we are free to choose our allies. There are many goals that need to be achieved for a free and democratic government in Iraq, but these are not mlitary goals. Tank gunners don’t write tax law. Artillerymen and Infantry mortarmen are not trained in setting up political processes or designing geo-political strategy. Yes, there is still much to do in order to achieve “victory” in Iraq, but these tasks are not tasks of the military. Bringing our troops home would be a good first step in acheiving peace in the region. The presence of US troops in Iraq draws the exact radical groups in that we are needing to keep out. Also, please realize that if the Iraqis are free, then they are free to hate the US and Israel, even though we may not like that. They are free to elect a radical Shia government, if that is what the majority want. They are free to ally with Iran and Syria, just as we are free to choose our allies.

]]> By: Deadeye Dick Cheney http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-1136761 Deadeye Dick Cheney Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:49:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/#comment-1136761 What is President Bush's plan for victory in Iraq? HOW does he intend to provide the Iraqi peope with a government that is capable of protecting them and keeping the peace? HOW does he intend to provide that all Iraqis are free and functioning under a democratic government? Those are the questions that Bush refuses to answer. To date, after more than three years of occupation, the only thing that roger_roger and George Bush can point to is purple fingers. As of now, the Iraqi government is absolutely incapable of protecting Iraqis. What is Bush's plan to achieve that goal? What are the measurable milestones along the way so that we can say for certain that progress towards the goal is being achieved? To date, the only milestone that we've heard is "As the Iraqis stand up, we'll stand down." Then Rumsfeld tells us about how many more brigades of Iraqi army and police have reached functioning levels and we STILL don't stand down. That's not progress towards the goal. That's not moving towards victory. That's failure. What is President Bush’s plan for victory in Iraq?

HOW does he intend to provide the Iraqi peope with a government that is capable of protecting them and keeping the peace?

HOW does he intend to provide that all Iraqis are free and functioning under a democratic government?

Those are the questions that Bush refuses to answer. To date, after more than three years of occupation, the only thing that roger_roger and George Bush can point to is purple fingers. As of now, the Iraqi government is absolutely incapable of protecting Iraqis. What is Bush’s plan to achieve that goal? What are the measurable milestones along the way so that we can say for certain that progress towards the goal is being achieved? To date, the only milestone that we’ve heard is “As the Iraqis stand up, we’ll stand down.” Then Rumsfeld tells us about how many more brigades of Iraqi army and police have reached functioning levels and we STILL don’t stand down. That’s not progress towards the goal. That’s not moving towards victory. That’s failure.

]]> By: doug http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-1135982 doug Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:07:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/#comment-1135982 Roger Roger when you attack, rape, torture, and kill a large mass of people at what point do you think you have "won?" Roger Roger when you attack, rape, torture, and kill a large mass of people at what point do you think you have “won?”

]]> By: Kevin Lyda http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-1135932 Kevin Lyda Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:57:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/frist-iraq/#comment-1135932 So what happened next - Hannity's head exploded? So what happened next – Hannity’s head exploded?

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