O’Reilly Revives The War On Christmas
O’Reilly Revives The War On Christmas
Last night, Bill O’Reilly revived his baseless claim that Christmas is “under seige” in America from “secular progressives,” highlighting Wal-Mart’s recent announcement that it will use the phrase “Merry Christmas” in its promotional materials this year.
O’Reilly portrayed Wal-Mart’s decision as a victory in the “culture war battle” for those who “want to retain the Christmas tradition,” and lauded Wal-Mart as “the Christmas guys!”
Actually, like its decision to use “Happy Holidays” in the first place, Wal-Mart’s return to “Merry Christmas” is motivated by business interests, not an effort to preserve traditional culture:
Wishing for a bigger holiday season after a sluggish fall, the chain said Thursday that 60% more of its merchandise will be labeled “Christmas” compared with last year. And customers will hear Christmas carols as they shop. […]
Wal-Mart is not alone. Although Best Buy Co. is sticking with “Happy Holidays,” retailers such as Kohl’s Corp. and Walgreen Co. are returning to Christmas.
“They’re all trying to get the spirit back,” said Marshal Cohen, chief industry analyst for NPD Group. “Especially since their holiday schedules have been off to a slow start.”
As Wal-Mart spokesman Steven Restivo put it, “We listened to our customers. There’s a call to return to a core Merry Christmas message.” Just as Jesus might have said.
Full transcript:
O’REILLY: In the “Back of the Book” segment tonight, as you know last year there was a culture war battle between people who wanted to say “Happy Holidays” and not say “Merry Christmas,” and those of us who want to retain the Christmas tradition without interference. Some retailers actually told employees not to say “Merry Christmas” — ever! — and they were hammered by us for doing that. Of course, the media attacked me for spotlighting the problem. But what a difference a year makes. With us, Peter Shankman, CEO of a PR firm here in New York City and author of the book “Can We Do That?!” And from Bentonville, Arkansas, Julie Roehm, the Senior VP for Marketing and Communications at Wal-Mart. Um, Ms. Roehm, we begin with you. Now, last year you were a little hesitant to say “Merry Christmas.” This year you are the Christmas guys! What happened?
ROEHM: That’s true. Well, first, let me be the first to say Merry Christmas to you.
Why does he continue this completely fabricated “battle?” Does it really increase his ratings? This is what his base is concerned about? Jeez, everyone knows the most important issue facing America today is Gay Marriage!
November 14th, 2006 at 1:41 pmIf retailers were told to put a sign up that says “Merry Cumquat” because it will bring in more business they would do it. I still don’t see what it has to do with Christmas Bill’O.
November 14th, 2006 at 1:43 pmWell, he’s got nothing else left, so he has to cling to this one.
November 14th, 2006 at 1:44 pmThis year, the White House Xmas tree will be cut from the Olympic National Forest (can you say Healthy Forests Inititiative?) near my home. Once cut, it will make a stopover in a WalMart parking lot in the town where I live (our local paper invited us to come see it (how depressing is that?)). I intend to take the opportunity to piss on the tree, and I will be smiling like the Cheshire Cat when Lauratron lights’er up!!
Funny to see ol’Falafel desperately seeking relevancy - what a sad old loser he is. Anyone who thinks there’s a war on xmas, or x-iantity, is a crazy-ass conspiracy theorist, whose tinfoil hat should be shaped like a star.
November 14th, 2006 at 1:44 pmOh, no. The Lying Man is at it again!
We should have expected this. Unless he ventures off into another universe completely and begins outwardly showing signs of his impending mental breakdown, I think this should be the last time TP mentions this pinhead.
November 14th, 2006 at 1:45 pmWal Mart, the all-in-one stop for fat, poor, stupid, lazy, American shoppers.
“I just LOVE the smell of new tires and nachos.”
November 14th, 2006 at 1:46 pmUh, WalMart’s the “Christmas Guys” in the same way that Bill O’Reilly is a journalist.
November 14th, 2006 at 1:47 pmWalMart’s “the Christmas guys” in the same way Bill O’Reilly is a “journalist.”
November 14th, 2006 at 1:48 pmChristmas? Christ-mass? Happy Holidays? Happy Holy-days? Sorry, Lonesome Cowboy Bill, but either greeting seems to include some of that old-fashioned religion. Happy now, Bill? Like the two burglers harrassing the seven-year-old kid in the modern Christmas Home Alone movies said, “Never…”
November 14th, 2006 at 1:49 pmI think I have a wonderful new semantics project for atheist, humanist or “sensitive” pseudo-religious types. As you have successfully changed the national vocabulary with politically correct censorship, why not seek the elimination of the “holiday”. The subtle reference to a “Holy Day” must really rankle you!!
November 14th, 2006 at 1:52 pmOh please….I believe we have a lot more important things to concern ourselves than this.
November 14th, 2006 at 1:52 pmI cant stop laughing…
November 14th, 2006 at 1:52 pmWhile I am not offeded by this even though I do not celebrate religious holidays, I think this clearly illistrates the leaning of corporate
November 14th, 2006 at 1:55 pmAmerica/right wing/conservatives insistance that things be done their way and those who are different can be damned, ridiculed and walked over. So I am sad to see this happen. Not that I shop at Walmart anyway, their other policies do offend me.
Come on Bill nobody bought this crap last year. In fact I have no Ideas what your talking about…
I don’t care for the economization of Christmas, but that is more in the original spirit of what Christmas was, and not of what it has become [$$$]
November 14th, 2006 at 1:57 pmAs a Christian I find Mr. O’Reilly’s campaign pointless. My faith has nothing to do with shopping. In fact, the commercialization of Christmas is a negative as far as I’m concerned.
November 14th, 2006 at 1:57 pmLOL protect those pagan beliefs…
November 14th, 2006 at 1:57 pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/ Pagan_beliefs_surrounding_Christmas
I think I have a wonderful new semantics project for atheist, humanist or “sensitive†pseudo-religious types. As you have successfully changed the national vocabulary with politically correct censorship, why not seek the elimination of the “holidayâ€. The subtle reference to a “Holy Day†must really rankle you!!
Comment by mighty aphrodite
If we succeed, would we still be allowed to tell you to go to hell? Or would that not be secular enough?
November 14th, 2006 at 1:57 pm“Especially since their holiday schedules have been off to a slow start…”
Seriously, WTF? Never mind “Peace on earth and goodwill to men,” it’s not even frikkin’ Thanksgiving yet. How on God’s green (we’ll turn it to a caustic brown yet!) Earth can they be off to a slow start on their holiday schedules?
November 14th, 2006 at 1:58 pmYawn….
I think we need more silly “Holidays”, and I think the birth of Jesus “bastard” Son Of a VIRGIN deserves a WEEK PAID OFF!
Easter as well, if anyone comes back alive, I think we should get a WEEK PAID off. That or a +3 ring of protection from the undead, and a few vials of holy water.
All in favor? Say AYE.
November 14th, 2006 at 1:58 pmIs Dubya gonna fly to Iraq with plastic turkeys again?
I am for the war on plastic turkeys!!
November 14th, 2006 at 1:58 pmGood for Wal-Mart… I’ll be sure to give them business!
November 14th, 2006 at 2:00 pmAs a secular progressive (agnostic religiously), I’m happy to see more stores using “Merry Christmas” because it further secularizes Christmas, which makes it more enjoyable for me, since I’m not interested in the religious aspects of it. Thanks, O’Reilly for all your “hard work.”
November 14th, 2006 at 2:00 pmAs a Secular I could care less how you celebrate your Holiday. If you want to get drunk the entire time go for it. You want to create some logoss and chant to the spaghetti god, do so.
GOD is a composite that spans history MA. ALL Barabarian religions speak of the great flood.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:02 pmThey are also selling deaths head Nazi T-shirts, dont forget to buy one of those Conservative Americam Icons!!
November 14th, 2006 at 2:03 pmThere is a particular sector of the conservative christian cult (mostly in the south, where I live) that really is concerned about these things. O’Reilly can’t get people to watch his show for actual “news” so he just makes stuff up that will get them upset. Then they watch to see what Christmas Bill can do to save the day! Not sure how well it works anymore, but that’s basically why he started.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:04 pmMark G,
Good for you, send more of your money to China! Soon you’ll be part of the United States of China Republic Marines.. fool
November 14th, 2006 at 2:04 pmNot at all, I am aware of the Kodesh. =)
November 14th, 2006 at 2:05 pmIt looks like the elections have aged him several years.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:05 pmMark Glesne, you rushed to your keyboard the other day to slander and smear a group of war veterans. You called Paul Reichoff, a marine veteran, republican and former investment banker, a “leftist.” That, of course is a lie. On another thread, you called a 37-year marine veteran, Jack Murtha, a “disgrace.”
You are a disgrace to the uniform you wear. As an active marine you take an oath to protect the consitution, not support a leader. I don’t know where you lost your way, but you are a disgrace to the Marine Corps.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:07 pmI have a very nice way to handle “Merry Christmas”. If that’s what I am told, I ask “Why?”. then tell them to cancel my sale, and I leave.
It is the ULTIMATE in disrespect to automatically assume everyone is a christian., not to mention, RUDE!!!
November 14th, 2006 at 2:08 pmThat’s the funny thing. Seculars could give a rat’s ass about the semantics. The REAL reason “Happy Holidays” sprung forth was two fold. Mostly because stores wanted to convince those who don’t celebrate Christmas to buy-buy-buy anyway, so they made up “Happy Holidays” to include Hanukah, New Years, and anything else they haven’t thought of. To a lesser extent, it gained popularity by people who are obsessed with political correctness. However, without the support of stores seeking extra profit, “Happy Holidays” would have only appeared on generic holiday greeting cards.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:08 pmTo make them feel as they are being attacked. To pull the ‘base’ together thru propaganda..BORe wants to empower BORe and he will use GOD and Christ to do it. Talk about Blasphemy.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:10 pmComment by Bluedog49
Haha. I support your right to believe what ever you want… no matter how asinine.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:10 pmOh, please. If Wal-Mart or any other chain thought it would sell $10 more in crap, they’d say Happy Christmukahwanzaa. It’s a free country, they can say whatever they want. As for “holiday,” call it whatever you want, as long as I get paid and don’t have to go to work, I could care less.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:11 pmI agree. But you know these pundits, they know what they don’t know and proudly repeat it daily!!
November 14th, 2006 at 2:14 pmits the most wonderful time of the year…
November 14th, 2006 at 2:14 pm“For unto you is born this day for the retail stores of your city, a Savior, which is Christmas the Lord.” Duke 2:11.
Happy Profit Days to all, and to all a good spreadsheet!
November 14th, 2006 at 2:16 pmIt’s a free country, [Wal-Mart] can say whatever they want.
Comment by oxillini
Amen.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:16 pmTell me mark the name of your GOD. The REAL name.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:16 pmIt’s not even Thanksgiving yet - he needs to shut up about Christmas!
November 14th, 2006 at 2:17 pmAgreed. I’m coming to the conclusion that there is a portion of the population that wants to feel “picked on.” They genuinely need to feel they are raging against something so that they feel relevant. Bill is seeking those people out in a shot to increase his ratings. Increased ratings means he keeps his job and maybe gets a raise. Convince me that’s not your secular motive here, Mr. O’Reilly.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:19 pmI support your right to believe what ever you want… no matter how asinine.
Comment by Mark Glesne
Oh, thanks. Were so relieved that you do.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:19 pmMark Glesne, I’m not stating a belief. I’m stating a fact. You lied about a former Marine and the public service he provides. Since you lied about something which should be somewhat sacred to you as a Marine, my conclusion is that you have no values.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:20 pmParrotLover77,
Well put, the only war on Christmas was waged by stores looking for higher sales. And it’s just more Christian bullshit “Ohh we’re the victim” mentality. Sadly look at the idiots that follow them..
November 14th, 2006 at 2:20 pm… The subtle reference to a “Holy Day†must really rankle you!!
Comment by mighty aphrodite
Haha!!
November 14th, 2006 at 2:21 pmSeems to me most of the wars today are exactly that. Sensitive Relgious types of the Muslim, Jewish, and Christian faiths.
All of them so sensitive that they want their GOD to kill the seed of the Other God, and they even pray to kill one another because of their GOD.
Really MA..do you have any toes left?
November 14th, 2006 at 2:22 pmDid I stutter? I support your right to believe what ever you want.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:22 pmthis is the only kind of war that oreilly and his dopey audience could ever hope to ‘win’ — the kind that the overwhelming majority of the country could give a shit about…
but keep in mind, oreilly’s demo is ancient — hell, prolly a dozen keeled over just as i was typing this…
November 14th, 2006 at 2:23 pmSo what else does he have? And so many people ridiculed him last year, that he’s doing this out of pride, spite and ratings.
He’s so gross, I can’t stand to look at him.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:23 pmAlso can’t help but notice the “heathen” image of an evergreen tree with the words “Christmas Under Siege” beneath…
November 14th, 2006 at 2:24 pm(chuckle…….)
“Christmas” is such a hodge-podge conglomeration of ancient mid-winter celebrations, such quibbling over what to say in greeting during the season is merely a demonstration of the participants lack of knowledge, let alone intelligence…….
No, You don’t. You would like to force your belief upon others, just because they don’t go to your church, to follow your beliefs thru federal law.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:24 pmmighty aphrodite,
I belong to no organized “religion” and my beliefs are my own. I will keep them that way, thank you.
Regarding the holiday season, it is my favorite time of the year in regard to family events and time spent with friends. It is a celebratory time that incorporates pagan rituals that have been co-opted by some religious types for purposes that I think are probably dubious at best. But that doesn’t concern me, sorry.
Now, if you can find Santa Claus in your bible, that would be quite a trick. Also, if you can show me Jesus of Nazareth’s birth certificate with the Dec. 25th birth date on it that would be quite a feat also.
So, knowing all this what does it matter whether you call it “Christmas” or “Holiday” or “Chanukah” or whatever. The C.H.C. season is a time of the year when I spend time with family and friends celebrating life. Wal-Mart, or any retailer for that matter, never even comes to mind when I think of the season.
Is that clear to you or is this another divisive issue for which battle lines are to be drawn and “labels” are to be applied so as to allow the insecure to prove to themselves that they are better than somebody or have to kill somebody over?
I wonder if Jesus of Nazareth would be proud?
Peace.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:26 pmYou would like to force your belief upon others, just because they don’t go to your church, to follow your beliefs thru federal law.
Comment by Dog_named_Boo
Interesting. I never knew that about myself. Thanks for the insight!
November 14th, 2006 at 2:26 pmReally, do you believe in gay marriage?
November 14th, 2006 at 2:27 pmAsinine aint it? =)
November 14th, 2006 at 2:29 pmIt is disrespectful to assume everyone is a Christian and therefore it is okay to say “Merry Christmas” to everyone. What is this supposed to mean to someone who is not a Christian? “I don’t know if you’re a Christian but I’m going to say Merry Christmas anyway and if you cringe then you are nothing but a troublemaker.” I happen to like this time of year and not because it’s Christmas “season.” It is actually winter season, and I like the images it conjurs up such as falling snow. Just because I like snow scenes doesn’t mean I want someone yelling “Snow scene!” in my face everytime I enter and leave a store.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:30 pmdo you believe in gay marriage?
Comment by Dog_named_Boo
Nope. Oooohhh, I bet you thought you caught me in a contradiction. Haha.
There is a vast difference between believing what you want and what our government publically recognizes.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:31 pmoh brother, this guys really needs to get out of the journalism business.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:31 pmThe War on Christmas is a mere precursor to the real battle: Destroying Valentine’s Day!
LTC Smith
November 14th, 2006 at 2:33 pmCommander
110th Culture Attack Battalion
Christian means pretty much ‘Messiah’…
Happy Messiah day!!
November 14th, 2006 at 2:33 pmI’m guessing that the retailer’s Christmas money making program got off to a slow start, ’cause the majority of Americans had something more important on their minds the day after Halloween.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:34 pmNamely the election and the necessity of regime change….
(No need to get me anything for Christmas this year, my fellow Progressives, you gave me the best gift EVER on November 7th…
thank you…..!)
If Bill O’Reilly believes so strongly in Christmas then it would seem logical that he would want to practice Christian values. Supporting a war that kills hundreds of thousands of innocents is not a Christian value, to name just one of many that he ignores.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:34 pmMighty Aphrodite - still here loser ?
I see reality hasn’t penetrated your thick skull.
Is this democratic victory in the House and Senate really a secret Republican win in your head?
Do you still get a cookie for every hair brained lie you spew?
I would think there aren’t enough cookies in the whole world.
You must be running low and I’m sure whats left is as stale as any of you lame arguments and all the sweet has plain gone away.
Poor little lying Aprhodite.
Choke down another dry stale rotten cookie. Mmmmmmmmmmmm. That’s failure.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:34 pmMany of the Christians fail to realize that Christ comes from the Sumerian Word Krishna.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:34 pmMerry “Jesus Wasn’t Born on This Day” Day
November 14th, 2006 at 2:35 pmSounds like Bills got a bad case of the “We stole it first!!” jitters.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:35 pmGlesne: “Did I stutter? I support your right to believe what ever you want.”
Little Mark Glesne, thinks he’s a very smart guy, but he has a problem many conservatives exhibit. He can’t distinguish between facts and beliefs. The other day he dismissed Iraq and Afganistan Veterans of America (IAVA) by stating that the guy running the organization is a “leftist.” The guy is Paul Reichoff, who is a marine veteran, a republican and a former investment banker. His site is non-partisan. Markie, those items in the last sentence are “facts,” not “beliefs.” It is a “fact” that you lied or was misinformed about IAVA and Paul Reichoff. I don’t “believe” that you’re a liar. It is a “fact” that you’re a liar.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:36 pmThe thing is, I don’t even think many people give a second thought to saying “Merry Christmas.” It’s just another greeting to so many people. Like saying Good Morning, or Hi or Nice weather, isn’t it? I guess that’s why I fail to see why anyone thinks this is a big deal. And even if someone does genuinely mean to wish you a Merry Christmas, what is offensive about that? They are wishing happiness for you. If someone told me “May Allah bless you.” I’d thank them because to them, they are wishing the bl;essings of their God on me. To me, that seems like a positive thing regardless of my personal religious beliefs or choices.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:36 pmLOL nice try!! And Yes I did!!
November 14th, 2006 at 2:38 pmI got one word for Bill. MORON.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:38 pmNothing says “Christmas” like locking your night-shift employees in your stores overnight to prevent them from stealing. Jesus would want it that way.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:39 pmHow do you spell Bill O’Reily. M O R O N. Who sexually harrasses female employees and criticizes anyone who points it out to him.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:40 pmThere is a vast difference between believing what you want and what our government publically recognizes. Comment by Mark Glesne
No, I want homosexuals to have the exact same rights of legal domestic partnership (call it “marriage” or call it “Mark Glesne”, I don’t care) as heterosexuals because a religious belief should NEVER be the foundation for any government policy, law, or recognition.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:41 pmRecognization? The goverment, much to your chagrin, are a group of people with beliefs.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:41 pmmparker: where do I get on that list for a free cookie? I can come up with plenty of hair-brained ideas. Not as many as Mighty Assphrodite, mind you, but I can only eat so many cookies.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:42 pmwal-mart is going to say ‘MERRY CHRISTMAS’ this year!?
that’s gotta piss you liberals off!!
November 14th, 2006 at 2:45 pmMy head is spinning from the irony that seeps from this statement.
He tells us that our neighbors are against Christmas, but the largest mega-corporation in the world is interested in upholding the ‘Christmas spirit of giving’?
Yeah. Right. I’ll believe it when Wal-Mart donates half it’s Dec 25th profits to feed the poor.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:47 pmI long for the days of the small government republicans.
What happened to all of the real conservatives.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:49 pmMark Glesne, it is a “fact” that you referred to Jack Murtha as a disgrace. It is a fact that you, a marine, called Murtha, a 37-year marine, a disgrace. My belief is that you wouldn’t call him that to his face. It is my belief that you are a cowardly, lying disgrace to the uniform you say you wear.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:49 pmC’mon Bill, everybody knows that Mal_Wart worships only one God, it’s name is Buck.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:49 pmYup, wingnutt, you’ve got your finger on the pulse of the left. You know what else will be heard soon? “Madame Speaker Pelosi.”
November 14th, 2006 at 2:50 pmWe don’t care. Only you retards care about stupid shEt like that.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:52 pm#34 - “…..As for “holiday,†call it whatever you want, as long as I get paid and don’t have to go to work…. ” Comment by oxillini
********Dear Ozillini - THANK YOU!! That one tiny brain spark demonstrates the lazy mindset of too many Progs….Merry Christmas!
November 14th, 2006 at 2:52 pmWingnutt, it doesn’t piss me off that Walmart will say Merry Christmas. What pisses me off is that conservatives seem intent on making Christmas a political issue. Christmas shouldn’t be political.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:53 pmWhy would it? I am a Christian, which as I posted means messiah.
There are messiahs, rabbis, and prophets in many religions.
Happy Xmas is no different than Happy Prophet day.
The Gropes are hung up on words they don’t seem to know the meaning of.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:56 pmwingnutt,
Freedom of Speech is a core value of those here, who I believe that you are attempting to “rile” with you poor choice of labels, so I don’t think anyone is “pissed off” about it.
You, however, seem to have some anger issues and should really get some help on that.
Oh, and Happy Chanukah to you, Allah allowing of course.
Peace.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:56 pmYour quite welcome, mighty aphrodite. I didn’t realize that made me lazy. Guess you’ll be foregoing all holidays this year to demonstrate your work ethic? Going in to the office on the 23rd this month to put in 8 hours on legal briefs are you? Have a happy Thanksgiving!
November 14th, 2006 at 2:57 pmSo, I guess that means Mighty A-hole will be working on christmas. Good for you Mighty A-hole. Go to work!
November 14th, 2006 at 2:57 pmWalmart is just the latest stand in the temple.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:58 pmPray tell MA, on this merry go round of life, some 480,000,000 years old, where are you in a hurry to go?
Are you saying now that only those that have belief deserve a Holiday from work?
November 14th, 2006 at 2:59 pmActually, getting as much money with as little work possible is a Capitalist mindset. You should be praising him for trying to be like your masters.
November 14th, 2006 at 2:59 pmWingnutt
To expand on Bluedog49’s comment, I am a progressive Christian and what pisses me off is the neoconservatives hijacking EVERYTHING about the Christian faith, except the inconvenient “love thing”, and using it for political gain. Religious faith should never be abused like this.
November 14th, 2006 at 3:00 pmMark Glesne isn’t a real Marine. He is a weekend warrior. Weak sauce.
November 14th, 2006 at 3:01 pmOh, and mighty aphrodite, I go by oxillini, not ozillini. You must have had a typo in there. Happy Arbor Day!
November 14th, 2006 at 3:01 pmGet a life O’Reilly! Who cares what you think about Christmas? Who cares what you think about anything? You’ve lost your political credibility so now you go after religious holidays…..what a farce you’ve become! Can Faux news now be classified as a “comedy channel” yet by the FCC?
November 14th, 2006 at 3:01 pmWhen I was a kid, Christmas was about the caring and compassion that Jesus taught. Every year my mother would have me give to various organizations that helped the poor. It was a happy time of year.
Conservatives are now turning it into a political battle for culture territory. Conservatives have bastardized the meaning of the holiday they claim to love so much while fighting anti-Christmas boogiemen.
The exact same thing is happening with their “intelligent design” culture battle– once you put creation theory in the realm of science, it bastardizes the sanctity of the teachings in the bible by forcing religion to play by secular, scientific rules.
Even the pope is against this kind of nonsense, at least with ID. I don’t know if he’s commented on the Christmas War, though.
The “culture wars” are self fulfilling prophecies.
November 14th, 2006 at 3:02 pmG1 Spudge!
November 14th, 2006 at 3:04 pmso, i just can’t listen to this bozo…
November 14th, 2006 at 3:05 pmi wonder - did he take credit for the change? … no doubt he wants to…
#75
The cookies come from the PNAC bakery.
The best ones go into the lunch boxes of every Oil Exec and CEO friendly to Bush.
The rest go to the Heritage Foundation.
They take half and Fed-Ex them to Rush Limbaugh.
The other half go to operatives like Mighty, one lie at at time.
They’re not very good and you do have to watch out for the bones.
November 14th, 2006 at 3:06 pmThe conservatives lost the moral highground when Delay, Abramoff, Ney, Safavian, Cunninhgham, Haggard, Foley, and the rest of blasphemers knocked them off their non-existent pededestal.
This war on Christmas will not restore what never existed in the first place.
November 14th, 2006 at 3:09 pmGotta walk that Dog –later!
November 14th, 2006 at 3:14 pmThere is no “War on Christmas”. Let O’Reilly create the strawman. There have been many intelligent posts generally stating to celebrate in your own way. Actions speak louder than words so let’s see how we treat each other during the upcoming holiday season and beyond.
November 14th, 2006 at 3:16 pmBill used this last year! Can’t he think of any other seasonal terrors to frighten us with?
November 14th, 2006 at 3:17 pmWhile I am no friend of BillO’s, I think ThinkProgress is being a little misleading here. If they hadn’t cut off what the Wal-Mart rep had said, she noted it was a business decision. Here’s what she had to say (and what TP cut off):
“And we feel that we’ve got to react to our customers’ needs. We certainly didn’t get to be as large as we are by being arrogant enough to think that we had all the answers. Always listen to our customers. It’s part of our motto. And we did that.
“In fact, in September, when we road tested this with 7,000 of our associates at an annual meeting, we brought forth the idea that we were going to say Christmas. We showed them signage of the Christmas shops and of the Christmas greeting cards and the countdown to Christmas. And it was received with thundering applause.
“And because we do employ 1.3 million associates at Wal-mart, and services 108 — 38 million customers every week, they’re our customers, too. So it’s important that our associates believe in it. They clearly do. And we’re having a very positive reaction from our customers. ”
Hey TP, stop cherry-picking, it limits your crediblity! Its pretty easy to go after BillO’s lies and deception, choose more wisely next time.
November 14th, 2006 at 3:21 pmWhile I am no friend of BillO’s, I think ThinkProgress is being a little misleading here. If they hadn’t cut off what the Wal-Mart rep had said, she noted it was a business decision. Here’s what she had to say (and what TP cut off):
Hey TP, stop cherry-picking, it limits your crediblity! Its pretty easy to go after BillO’s lies and deception, choose more wisely next time.
November 14th, 2006 at 3:21 pmOr you could just leave the Bill O monitoring to Media Matters.
November 14th, 2006 at 3:27 pmBill is such the culture warrier. Keep on fightin’ Bill. (Don’t tell him its his own shadow)
November 14th, 2006 at 3:43 pmJay: The bottom line is that Wal-Mart isn’t exactly changing its tune to “Jesus is the reason for the season” as culture warriors would have us believe.
November 14th, 2006 at 3:45 pmHe is so pathetic.
November 14th, 2006 at 3:55 pmHe needs something to rail about, so he is resurrecting this canard.
It’s hard for him to watch his ratings continue to go down - and he is looking for any kind of war where he can be the general. His ego is in constant need of reassurement.
Poor B.O.
Do non-Christians get offended when someone says, “Merry Christmas”? I try to stick to “Have a nice holiday” in case someone’s Jewish but I’ve never had anyone go off on me and get offended. And what’s the deal anyway? I’m not offended if someone wishes me “Happy Holidays” because I’m a Christian (a SANE one, not like BillO). I guess you just have to wing it and if someone gets offended, kick their ass and take their wallet and go to Wal Mart.
I think the reason that they’re starting this Christmas thing (Wal Mart, et al) is because they had such a crappy retail season last year because the middle class is being gouged and no one has any money to buy the crap they sell, so they’re extending it from Halloween on.
November 14th, 2006 at 4:10 pmhe is looking for any kind of war where he can be the general.
Comment by Marie
I like that. Nicely put.
November 14th, 2006 at 4:15 pmNext ol Bill will declare war on the days of the week since they’re named after pagan gods!
November 14th, 2006 at 4:23 pmfake religious assholes like oreilly love exploiting peoples fears and stupidity through their lies and propaganda. And the best thing about it theyve taken a time of “good will toward men and peace on earth” and made it another nasty, vicious, hateful time of year.
thansk bill, and im sure jesus thanks you too.
November 14th, 2006 at 4:23 pmfrom molehills, mountains…..
November 14th, 2006 at 4:26 pmIf Jesus came back right this second, he’d probably wonder what this ‘culture war’ nonsense is all about, and wonder why bill isn’t telling people to give to the poor instead of waging culture wars.
He’d probably also wonder why corporations are using his birthday for profiteering, but he’s always been kind of a commie.
November 14th, 2006 at 4:31 pmBill Oreilly’s “War on Christmas” has been completely debunked.
http://www.au.org/ site/ PageServer?pagename=resources_xmas_tales
O’Reilly has been bashing public schools with LIES, how Christian of him.
November 14th, 2006 at 4:49 pmAll kinds of shit going down the world today, and this is what that f*ckwit talks about?
He doesn’t give a shit about any of it, as long as he gets the attention he craves.
Aren’t we nice to give BO all this attention? Moving on…
November 14th, 2006 at 5:00 pmIT’S THE WAR ON CHRISTMAS!!! NEVER HAS A BATTLE BEEN ENGAGED WITH SUCH DIRE CONSEQUENCES!!! HIDE THE ASPERGERS CHILDREN FROM THE EVIL, MENANCING ANTI-CLAUS!
FROM THE FIRST, DEAFENING CRY OF “HO HO HO”, TO THE SHRILLS OF “FA LA LA LA LA, LA LA LA LA”, TO THE FINAL BELLOWING HOWLS OF “I’M DREAMING OF A WHITE….”, WILL ONE WITNESS THE TRUE POWER OF “SHOP AND AWE” STARTING NOV.24TH
THE WAR ON CHRISTMAS! THIS IS ONE BATTLE WE CRAZY CAUCASION HETEROSEXUAL CHRISTIANS MUST WIN!
THE WAR ON CHRISTMAS! MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVEN THE MICHIGAN/OHIO STATE GAME OF THE MILLENIUM! MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE IMPORTANT than that little misunderstaning in the middle east, somewhere.
THE WAR ON CHRISTMAS! BUY INTO IT…TODAY!!!
November 14th, 2006 at 5:08 pmHIDE THE ASPERGERS CHILDREN FROM THE EVIL, MENANCING ANTI-CLAUS!
Comment by DRxJ
What do you mean by this part?
November 14th, 2006 at 5:21 pm#120,
November 14th, 2006 at 5:26 pmThat’s just a slam on our friendly cut and run, women-hating, racist troll… Jason M. Hendler
All in favor? Say AYE.
Comment by JustSomeDude — November 14, 2006 @ 1:58 pm
Aye… Though, as a high school teacher, I get two weeks off for each (they just aren’t paid).
November 14th, 2006 at 5:57 pmWhat store/mall would Jesus shop in? Hopefully, if the ratings keep going the way they have, Bill O’Reilly and Co. will be irrevelent by Christmas time. If so, I can have a joyous Holiday Season!
November 14th, 2006 at 6:00 pmMerry “Jesus Wasn’t Born on This Day†Day
Comment by Robert — November 14, 2006 @ 2:35 pm
Considering December 8th was the date of the Immaculate Conception, a December 25th birth date for Jeebus is highly unlikely.
Though…
The “Son” of God is the “Sun” of God
The reason why all these narratives are so similar, with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula (the “Mythos,” as mentioned above) revolving around the movements of the sun through the heavens.
For instance, many of the world’s crucified godmen have their traditional birthday on December 25th (”Christmas”). This is because the ancients recognized that (from an earthcentric perspective) the sun makes an annual descent southward until December 21st or 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops moving southerly for three days and then starts to move northward again. During this time, the ancients declared that “God’s sun” had “died” for three days and was “born again” on December 25th. The ancients realized quite abundantly that they needed the sun to return every day and that they would be in big trouble if the sun continued to move southward and did not stop and reverse its direction. Thus, these many different cultures celebrated the “sun of God’s” birthday on December 25th. The following are the characteristics of the “sun of God”:
The sun “dies” for three days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops in its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be “born of a Virgin.”
The sun is the “Light of the World.”
The sun “cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him.”
The sun rising in the morning is the “Savior of mankind.”
The sun wears a corona, “crown of thorns” or halo.
The sun “walks on water.”
The sun’s “followers,” “helpers” or “disciples” are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the “Most High”; thus, “he” begins “his Father’s work” at “age” 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30°; hence, the “Sun of God” begins his ministry at “age” 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or “crucified,” which represents its passing through the equinoxes, the vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected
November 14th, 2006 at 6:05 pmHere’s the link to my post above…
http://www.truthbeknown.com/origins5.htm
November 14th, 2006 at 6:06 pmMany of the Christians fail to realize that Christ comes from the Sumerian Word Krishna.
Comment by Dog_named_Boo — November 14, 2006 @ 2:34 pm
Not to mention, much of Krishna’s life is mirrored in the later writings about some guy known as Jesus of Nazareth. Krishna was even the world’s first purported instance of an immaculate conception committed to writing, more than 1,000 years before Christ was a glimmer in his parents’ eyes.
Go read the history of the life of Krishna. Then, go read the Gospels of the New Testament. Then, look at the times at which each was written about. Then, realize just how much one religion builds upon the previous successes in the religious world. Religion (that is to say, Organized Religion) always starts out with noble intentions, but more often than not ends up with disaster and corruption that subverts the very teachings the founder or inspiration for the religion wished the world to know (invariably the teachings of peace, knowledge, love, forgiveness, and harmony with both nature and your fellow man turns into war, faith, hatred, fear, and bigotry against both nature and your fellow man, all thanks to the absolutely blind faith in the writings of your fellow man under the delusion that those words were written by deity manifesting through your fellow man).
November 14th, 2006 at 6:18 pmpeople, this is still somewhat a free country and if walmart wants to yell merry hanukwaanza, then be it. its your choice to give them your dollar or not.
November 14th, 2006 at 7:20 pm[…] Read More God, I Hate Bill O”reilly […]
November 14th, 2006 at 9:16 pm#125 unbelievable
November 14th, 2006 at 9:47 pmI read that a while ago but I had not thought about it for a while. It explains so much.
I have seen much similarity between ancient beliefs, mythology and current religions of the world.
The human being must have an innate need for something - a power or a force - is it because, of all living beings, we can think in the abstract?
Religion has lost me, or I have moved on and left it, but the subject fascinates me and I continue to look for logic and rationale.
More power to Walmart. Afterall, most Christmas accoutrements were originally Pagan symbols. Now, we can buy even more shit we don’t even need.
November 14th, 2006 at 10:21 pmBillo uses this as a wedge thing for the wingnuts.
November 14th, 2006 at 10:53 pmProblem is the mood of the country who now views such things with a collective yawn.
In previous years he could get the base going by doing crap like this.
But, the country for the most part has moved on. Only the die hard ones are still stewing in anger ready to attack at anything people like Billo tells them to.
But, the majority of people just look, yawn and move on to something more palletable like thinking Bill is so yesterday’s news.
Geez, are we going to have to go through this every Xmas until Bill dies? Probably. It works to keep him in the public mind.
November 14th, 2006 at 11:41 pmYawn.
If there is a war on Christmas,I sure don’t see it.
It’s too much of a cultural institution to declare war upon.
Even most atheists would agree with me there.
Plus I get toys,so stop all this ballyhooey Bill William,You
oderiferously stinky pheremoned,black socks with the
suspenders wearin,boo-hiney!
Now if you’ll excuse me I’m having a Rankin Bass
Christmas marathon & I’ve invited some prostitutes(that like
Christmas a lot too) to watch it with me.
November 15th, 2006 at 12:22 amSome of you SPs are so bloody retarded, it hurts.
November 15th, 2006 at 12:30 am[…] Last night, Bill O ’Reilly revived his baseless claim that Christmas is “under seige†in America from “secular progressives,†highlighting Wal-Mart’s recent announcement that it will use the phrase “Merry Christmas†in its promotional materials this year.read more | digg story […]
November 15th, 2006 at 1:55 amoh… heeere we go….
November 15th, 2006 at 2:54 amHere goes the Big Giant Head once again. Just add Geraldo and John Gibson and we have the set. The 3 asses can go carolling and leave us all alone to our secular progressiveness..
Mighty Aphrodite, gosh gee whillikers that’s actually more than 1 post you made on one subject since the Democrats cleaned out the trash. Wow! And yet, you are still not on the road to recovery from fantasy to reality.
You and the Felafel Boy King are close to giving me a reason not to celebrate Christmas this year. Hanukkah looks good to me right now, and I’m not even Jewish.
November 15th, 2006 at 3:37 amI really could care less how WalMart greets their customers. If you walkm through the door, I suppose you’re there for a reason and should expect what you get.
I would like to know how WalMart greets its WORKERS and factory people here and abroad. I suspect the good cheer of the ‘holidays’ is somewhat lost on them.
Ask O’Reilly why he thinks it wonderful they say “Merry Xmas” in WalMart stores but NOT in WalMart factories. I think Bill should take his crusude to the Orient.
November 15th, 2006 at 4:15 amLet me just say calling Christmas Christmas these days is a JOKE! Christmas USED TO BE ABOUT remembering Christ. Today, it’s about receiving gifts. You might as well call it Present day with a capital P, thanks to Capitalism with a big C and Bill O’Liely with a big L. How are we remembering Christ by buying our family members gifts? We should be remembering Christ by NOT buying anything, by thinking about the lesser fortunate ones in our world, but noooooo. Just call it Christmas and Bill-O is happy again. Go lick a white dick, you ignorant pig.
November 15th, 2006 at 5:33 amBlowhard Bill just manufactures this bit of hooey each year because he knows it panders to the lowest common denominator. This year, he’s moved up the war to take attention away from the major GOP losses.
November 15th, 2006 at 8:26 amWow. What a bunch of freaking haters. If you’re so PC and diversity-minded - why would “Merry Christmas” offend you? Does “Happy Kwanzaa” offend you? Of course not. You welcome that kind of diversity. If an African American says Happy Kwanzaa to you you would trip over yourselves to find a way to accomodate. Hypocrites! Stop reinventing an American Christian holiday to suit your your sad little “Christians offend me, Christians are stupid, Christians are inbred southerners” attitude. If you said the same things, but substituted “Kwanzaa” for Christmas and “african american” for Christian - you would be horrified at the hate and the bigotry you are publicly displaying.
So - Christians have failed you. Churches have failed you. You think all god-believers are ignorant, hypocritical and less valuable than yourself. Hater! Get over it! - Grow up.
November 15th, 2006 at 11:38 amThe subtle reference to a “Holy Day†must really rankle you!!
Comment by mighty aphrodite — November 14, 2006 @ 1:52 pm
You are correct. What the f*ck is so Holy about it?
November 15th, 2006 at 12:59 pmThis guy just isn’t happy with a war on something…
He’s a really sick man!
November 15th, 2006 at 1:04 pm[…] O?Reilly Revives The War On ChristmasSeriously, this has gone too far! In my day the War on Christmas didn’t start until the day after Thanksgiving. Give it a rest Bill. […]
November 16th, 2006 at 12:51 amI’m all for including Christmas, just as long as we include Chanukah, Kwanzaa, Yule, etc. as well. These right wing maniacs aren’t politely asking for Christmas to be included, they’re demanding that Christmas is the only holiday observed.
It would be hard and time consuming to say Happy (Insert Holiday Here) to every different faith, that’s why we have phrases like “Happy Holidays” to save time and be all inclusive (this means Christmas too!).
November 16th, 2006 at 2:24 pm[…] read more | digg story […]
November 17th, 2006 at 11:58 am#19 & 44 Comments by JustSomeDude
It’s one thing to offend Christians, but it’s much different to offend God, and you seem to do at every turn. Just remember all the things you’ve proffered here about God and His loser followers, you will become accountable and know it 5 minutes after you die. But, while God will judge you for ALL of your evil, hateful deeds, He will only ask you one important question during your judgment, He will ask how you handled His Son, Christ the Savior. For this last question will you and your entire ilk be judged. He is the only way to heaven.
The reason Bill O’Reilly and I are offended by commercial companies changing Christmas to “Happy Holiday†is because they are trying to get around the original meaning of Christmas, to celebrate Christ’s birth. Nobody has to celebrate or even believe in His birth or death, just please respect those who do. Why is this so hard?
I doubt that you would like me to call your mother a whore, your father a murderer, or you a twice accused and once convicted CHILD MOLESTING PEDOFILE BASTARD. So don’t tell lies about my Savior and don’t mock me for believing in Him and even celebrating His birth at Christmas.
Keep hiding behind your loser JustSomeDude ID and know that God can still see your filthy heart and yet He still loves you as much as he loves me, Bill O’Reilly, Billy Graham, Elton John and Sam Walton’s entire family. But God cannot look on sin and, since you and I are both sinners, God sent Christ to us (His birth being foretold 1000s of years prior) to live, be crucified and die for OUR sins. And all you have to do to claim this FREE gift that God sent to you is to believe on His Son, Jesus Christ.
But, it is very important that you know that God also said, if you are not for me, you are automatically against me. JustSomeDude you don’t seem to be for God nor are others on this blog who support your perverted views.
BTW, I dare you to talk about Muslims in the same way you speak about Christians! Especially in public in Detroit! Speak proudly and loudly JustSomeDude! Ala won’t be after you, but JustSomeMUSLIMDude will be on you swiftly and YOU will then be arrested for the hate crime of insulting Islam!
FYI, Detroit just elected the 1st Muslim to Congress and he hates Christ just as much as you. Maybe you two can become friends. And please express to him your same hatred for Ala as you do Christ, just to set him straight, that is, if you have the guts! Oh, I forgot, you hide behind JustSomeDude on the invisible Internet!
Hate on pathetic God hating losers! It’s all you have.
November 17th, 2006 at 11:40 pmThe people of the country that truly believe in Christmas shouldn’t care what these left wing nuts say or do. The Christmas season is a wonderful time of year for gift giving and bringing families together. Along with Hanukkah, Kwanza and all other holidays, it gives us something to look forward to. For the people that spend too much that is their own perogative, so what? Its not like it doesn’t help our economy and keep small businesses going. For the left wing libs out there that don’t believe in ANYTHING you are missing out as you sit in your loney little world. Kids love Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanza, it is wonderful to see all of the lights and the celebrations. If we all were like you we’d be sitting home feeling sorry for ourselves, certainly not helping the economy grow and god forbid being happy for once. I am glad that WalMart is saying Merry Christmas, why should the Christians be left out. I also don’t go out and get a “holiday” tree, I get a Christmas tree. So What???????? Find another cause to fight. Isn’t my hairspray depleting the ozone? Believe that and I will tell you another crazy lie……..
November 19th, 2006 at 11:26 am[…] Who knew that when Bill O’Reilly would kickstart the annual ‘War on Christmas’, the first battle would be with… all the cool toys this Christmas! […]
November 20th, 2006 at 10:55 pmHaving took the time to read some of the comments, the world sure is in need of a Merry Christmas and could use Jesus in their life. (Ya I’m sure I just lost a few readers.) For some of the bloggers just born yesterday, Christmas came from the Christian religion. And yes young’ns, there is a reality that Americans (let alone the retail stores and public schools) have been threatened by law suits for using the phrase “Merry Christmas” and other Christian references. Christians are just now being educated that they don’t have to take that anymore and yes they have retaliated against retail stores using our religious holiday for their gain by hurting them where it hurts them the most. It’s unfortunate that in America that we had to win back religious freedom not by our inalienable right, but through the almight buck.
November 21st, 2006 at 11:09 amThe war is real, and I’m a soldier fighting back. When I heard about Best Buy’s decision to ban Christmas greetings from their ad campaign this year, I thought about the Inns that turned Jesus away, and imagined Best Buy as one of these Inns. That led me to write and record this song:
Best Buy Inn
Dr. BLT
words and music by Dr. Bruce L. Thiessen, aka Dr. BLT (c) 2006
http://www.drblt.net/music/BestBI.mp3
If you like the song, pass it on, or, better yet, forward the link to Best Buy.
November 26th, 2006 at 12:06 amOle Bill really does need to find another subject, doesn’t he? Preferably one with some basis in reality.
Christmas has been — and likely always will be — a cultural phenomenon rather than a spiritual or religious one. Christmas didn’t used to be celebrated the way we celebrate it now, nor did it have all the trappings we commonly associate with it these days. Heck, Congress used to meet on December 25th and the mail used to run.
So if it’s become a crass, commercial day of capitalist celebration, so be it. Back in the day when I was a devout Christian, I celebrated the day as one of appreciation for friends and family (since Jesus was born during lambing season, probably March or April, so it couldn’t actually have been his birthday). Now that I’m not religiously inclined, I still celebrate it as a day of appreciation for friends and family.
And I don’t care what it’s called.
November 26th, 2006 at 9:05 pm[…] Nah, they won’t bring it up. Not while they’re fighting both the War on the War on Christmas and the War on Talking Penguins, surely … […]
November 30th, 2006 at 10:37 amu people are idiots. I am only 16 years old and i have more of a life than half u guys… I am doin a research paper on this topic, and i should put in it how full of shit most of u secular people are. Christmas is supposed to be a celebration of Jesus Christ’s birthday! It is also supposed to be a time of enjoyment… not a time of debating this! So all of u, go home today and just thank God for the family he has provided u with.
December 1st, 2006 at 3:26 pmI often think O’Reilly is a bore and a bully. And I agree
December 4th, 2006 at 1:41 pmwith him 95% of the time. He’s right, despite what the moronic
secularists think (if they ever DO think). The war against
Christmas and Merry Christmas is real. It is actuated by
people who believe that sucking up to every minority
group somehow makes them virtuous. And who exactly is
offended by the words Christmas or Merry Christmas? Only
the PC-addled facists, those laughably non-openminded liberals
who cherish “diversity” as long as it’s made up of people who
think EXACTLY as they do. A good 98% of Americans celebrate
Christmas, including many Jews. A word of advice to the
mind and speech controllers on the left and to wankers like
Keith Olbermann: don’t tell us what we can say and not say or
what words we can use. And keep your Stalinoid mitts off Christmas.
I’m making Christmas Falafels!
December 5th, 2006 at 12:04 amNow, if you want a FUN War on Christmas… listen to this…
I am Jesus (And You’re Not)
If you’re going to have a go, do it with some style…
December 6th, 2006 at 10:38 amPerhaps War on Christmas or War Against Christmas is a bit strong, perhaps even divisive, but to pretend that some form of this phenomenon does not exist is to stick one’s head in the snow. Take Best Buy, for example:
While other retails are bringing Christmas back this year, Best Buy has banned Merry Christmas in their Christmas ads (check this out):
http://www.afa.net/ petitions/ email/ bestbuy_11102006.html
So I wondered what it would be like if Best Buy were an Inn, back in Bethlehem when Jesus was born, and I wrote this song in protest:
Best Buy Inn
Words and music by Dr. BLT ©2006
http://www.drblt.net/music/BestBI.mp3
Bruce (aka Dr. BLT)
December 7th, 2006 at 1:07 pmAnd if you ask me, Happy Holidays and Season’s Greetings has the same meaning as Merry Christmas. Let’s face it, just because we celebrate Christmas doesn’t mean were Christian. (It may be a Christian holiday to some, but for others they think of Santas and Snowmen).
December 9th, 2006 at 7:33 pmSome South American nations (99.5% Christain) divide the season into a celebration of Christ’s birth, Dec 25, when family members honor the head of household with a small but reverent gift, then on Jan 10th St. Nicholas visits and kids get all their goodies. Makes sense.
December 11th, 2006 at 1:01 amre: what to call it — if memory serves, the holiday was originally the Pagan Saturnalia and it ran from what is now Xmas to what is now the New Year. The christians did a lot of that in their early years and once Constantine converted, almost all the old holidays were transformed. In the 5th Century, with apologies to all, what had been the Lupercalia when young men ran naked thru the streets of Rome with straps and floggers, and hit young women (gently of course) — at first on their outstretched hands and finally on any part of their unclad bodies they could reach, became the feast of St Valentine and moved one day before the Ides as it had been for centuries. For more on this topic, see The SandMUtopian Guardian at:
December 12th, 2006 at 2:35 pmThis “War on Christmas” is not new. I started over 2000 years ago when King Herod tried to snuff out the life of the very Child Christmas is in honor of. It was an attempt of Satan to destroy the Son of God. He failed, but now 2000 years later, he as stepped up his attack on that very same baby. He will fail again.
December 14th, 2006 at 12:14 am[…] The boring anti-anti-Christmas crap from Bill O’Reilly. Like other non-issues from O’Reilly, again he is on the war path against the so called New York City Public Schools anti-Nativity scene, and other non-infractions . Hey Bill, shut up! We already have enough crap to deal with around this time of year. […]
December 21st, 2006 at 7:48 amI made a point of saying “Merry Christmas” and not Happy Holidays. If the customer does not have a problem with the word Christmas, then the employees should be allowed to say it. I think that the majority of employees that I came across were very happy to hear “Merry Christmas”.
December 28th, 2006 at 11:33 am[…] A threatening situation floods us with epinephrine, otherwise known as adrenaline, to give us energy and make us alert. But at the same time, it opens the dam on endogenous opioids such as endorphins and enkephalins to keep us calm and numb our pain. Could we all be tripping on this organic speedball when we declare a “war” on something? And, what’s more, are we now addicted to it? Look at Bill O’Reilly yammering on about a War on Christmas. Or the left’s proclamations about a Republican War on Science. Politics aside, are we just ginning up antipathies to feed our biochemical yen? […]
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