Comments on: General Abizaid Smacks Down McCain’s Plan To Send More U.S. Troops To Iraq http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:40:24 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: senate armed services committee http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4810600 senate armed services committee Tue, 08 Apr 2008 15:14:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/#comment-4810600 [...] [...] [...] [...]

]]> By: Week three: BushCo’s 21,500 Strategy « 1LONERANGER http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-2010343 Week three: BushCo’s 21,500 Strategy « 1LONERANGER Mon, 05 Mar 2007 20:35:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/#comment-2010343 [...] be some indication of things to come?  Remember what the generals told BushCo’s next Great White Hope in [...] [...] be some indication of things to come?  Remember what the generals told BushCo’s next Great White Hope in [...]

]]> By: eatbees blog » Iran Fever (part 1) http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-1837205 eatbees blog » Iran Fever (part 1) Wed, 21 Feb 2007 08:45:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/#comment-1837205 [...] has responsibility for both Iraq and Afghanistan. He was relieving General John Abizaid, who had gone on record in November 2006 against an increase in troops. Abizaid told the Senate Armed Services Committee, [...] [...] has responsibility for both Iraq and Afghanistan. He was relieving General John Abizaid, who had gone on record in November 2006 against an increase in troops. Abizaid told the Senate Armed Services Committee, [...]

]]> By: Left Out Front » Blog Archive » How Low Can the Army Go? http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-1463915 Left Out Front » Blog Archive » How Low Can the Army Go? Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:34:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/#comment-1463915 [...] I know Bush says he’ll do what he wants, and he will trot out as many generals as he can find to support his plan. But, I hope Congress remembers what so many Americans said was the main issue on their minds when they voted for change, and I hope they fight this man and his plan. Apart from all of the reasons WE SHOULDN’T BE THERE, we clearly don’t have the depth for this. Shouldn’t the generals be telling Bush that? Yes, they are. Then they find themselves retired. « GOP vows to be more evil in ‘07 [...] [...] I know Bush says he’ll do what he wants, and he will trot out as many generals as he can find to support his plan. But, I hope Congress remembers what so many Americans said was the main issue on their minds when they voted for change, and I hope they fight this man and his plan. Apart from all of the reasons WE SHOULDN’T BE THERE, we clearly don’t have the depth for this. Shouldn’t the generals be telling Bush that? Yes, they are. Then they find themselves retired. « GOP vows to be more evil in ‘07 [...]

]]> By: peter http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-1436448 peter Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:00:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/#comment-1436448 how many more of our troops must die before we pull out of Iraq. we are killing, maiming, raping by hundreds every single day in Iraq. Bush you will be accountable,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, how many more of our troops must die before we pull out of Iraq. we are killing, maiming, raping by hundreds every single day in Iraq. Bush you will be accountable,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

]]> By: peter http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-1436439 peter Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:56:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/#comment-1436439 we shall very soon see the defeat of Bush in Iraq, they (Republicans) are all war criminals who control all the drugs that are sent out of Afghanistan. i used to serve in Afghanistan up until late August 2006. every plane that took off from Kandahar was full of Hero, you could smell it. Bush, D Rumsfield, Z Khalilzad are the top dealers. God Bless Americans and May God curse the Bush Admin we shall very soon see the defeat of Bush in Iraq, they (Republicans) are all war criminals who control all the drugs that are sent out of Afghanistan. i used to serve in Afghanistan up until late August 2006. every plane that took off from Kandahar was full of Hero, you could smell it. Bush, D Rumsfield, Z Khalilzad are the top dealers. God Bless Americans and May God curse the Bush Admin

]]> By: Dr X http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-1410827 Dr X Mon, 08 Jan 2007 22:52:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/#comment-1410827 <blockquote><em>"while I don't favor reinstatement of the draft, without forced military conscription and without a tax policy that more realistically transmits information about war supplies to consumers, support for this war is relatively cheap. It is so cheap, in fact, that Americans still want more war than the military is able to supply."</em></blockquote> <a href="http://drx.typepad.com/psychotherapyblog/2007/01/post.html" rel="nofollow">There Is No Free Lunch And There Is No Free Surge</a>

“while I don’t favor reinstatement of the draft, without forced military conscription and without a tax policy that more realistically transmits information about war supplies to consumers, support for this war is relatively cheap. It is so cheap, in fact, that Americans still want more war than the military is able to supply.”

There Is No Free Lunch And There Is No Free Surge

]]> By: LaughingAt YouAll http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-1395580 LaughingAt YouAll Sat, 06 Jan 2007 12:54:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/#comment-1395580 I think what nobody seems to be asking is why the much vaunted US Military, supposed to be able to take on the Soviets and the Chinese armies, fight a war on two fronts, which has a billion-dollars-a-day budget, most profession, best armed, best trained, blah blah blah cannot win a war against a frankly mediocre nation of less than 50m? Am I being totally naive here or have the Americans forgotten what an army is for - projecting your will on others, whether they like it or not? If you dont have the stomach to use your military, stop spending on it and bragging about it. Spend the money building back your economy, before you wake up one day and find the Chinese and Indians own you - and the rest of the world. I think what nobody seems to be asking is why the much vaunted US Military, supposed to be able to take on the Soviets and the Chinese armies, fight a war on two fronts, which has a billion-dollars-a-day budget, most profession, best armed, best trained, blah blah blah cannot win a war against a frankly mediocre nation of less than 50m? Am I being totally naive here or have the Americans forgotten what an army is for – projecting your will on others, whether they like it or not? If you dont have the stomach to use your military, stop spending on it and bragging about it. Spend the money building back your economy, before you wake up one day and find the Chinese and Indians own you – and the rest of the world.

]]> By: Think Progress » William J. Fallon: Wrong Man For The Job http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-1392280 Think Progress » William J. Fallon: Wrong Man For The Job Fri, 05 Jan 2007 21:06:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/#comment-1392280 [...] Set to make the disastrous decision to escalate our presence in Iraq, the President is in need of a military commander to support his decision. While General Abizaid publicly opposed the surge in troop levels in Iraq, it would be surprising if Admiral Fallon is not more agreeable. [...] [...] Set to make the disastrous decision to escalate our presence in Iraq, the President is in need of a military commander to support his decision. While General Abizaid publicly opposed the surge in troop levels in Iraq, it would be surprising if Admiral Fallon is not more agreeable. [...]

]]> By: Birmingham Blues » Blog Archive » I Bet He Wishes He Could Fire the Voters http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-1390588 Birmingham Blues » Blog Archive » I Bet He Wishes He Could Fire the Voters Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:44:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/#comment-1390588 [...] Yeah, that’s right.  Bush has claimed all along that he listens to his generals on the ground.  The generals made it quite clear back in November that sending in more troops won’t help.  So what does he do?  Fire the generals and send in more troops.  Makes perfect sense, doesn’t it?  And what does “win the war” mean, anyway? “One thing is for certain: I will want to make sure the mission is clear and specific and can be accomplished,” Bush said Thursday. [...] [...] Yeah, that’s right.  Bush has claimed all along that he listens to his generals on the ground.  The generals made it quite clear back in November that sending in more troops won’t help.  So what does he do?  Fire the generals and send in more troops.  Makes perfect sense, doesn’t it?  And what does “win the war” mean, anyway? “One thing is for certain: I will want to make sure the mission is clear and specific and can be accomplished,” Bush said Thursday. [...]

]]> By: YouCantHandleDaTruth http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-1379723 YouCantHandleDaTruth Wed, 03 Jan 2007 16:43:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/#comment-1379723 "How To Lose A Presidential Bid Before You Start One", by John McCain. “How To Lose A Presidential Bid Before You Start One”, by John McCain.

]]> By: Think Progress » Administration Official: Troop Escalation ‘More Of A Political Decision Than A Military One’ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-1379394 Think Progress » Administration Official: Troop Escalation ‘More Of A Political Decision Than A Military One’ Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:02:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/#comment-1379394 [...] Just weeks ago, CentCom commander Gen. John Abizaid told Congress “I met with every divisional commander, General Casey, the core commander, General Dempsey, we all talked together. And I said, in your professional opinion, if we were to bring in more American Troops now, does it add considerably to our ability to achieve success in Iraq? And they all said no.” [...] [...] Just weeks ago, CentCom commander Gen. John Abizaid told Congress “I met with every divisional commander, General Casey, the core commander, General Dempsey, we all talked together. And I said, in your professional opinion, if we were to bring in more American Troops now, does it add considerably to our ability to achieve success in Iraq? And they all said no.” [...]

]]> By: Think Progress » Brooks: Even If Troop Surge Completely Fails, It Will Help McCain Politically http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-1285623 Think Progress » Brooks: Even If Troop Surge Completely Fails, It Will Help McCain Politically Mon, 18 Dec 2006 15:26:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/#comment-1285623 [...] Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) is advocating sending up to 30,000 additional troops to Iraq. His plan is opposed by the military’s top generals and supported by just 12 percent of Americans. [...] [...] Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) is advocating sending up to 30,000 additional troops to Iraq. His plan is opposed by the military’s top generals and supported by just 12 percent of Americans. [...]

]]> By: Top Democrat: Bring back the draft - Page 7 - Debate Politics Forums http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-1161442 Top Democrat: Bring back the draft - Page 7 - Debate Politics Forums Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:55:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/#comment-1161442 [...] MCCAIN: Did you note that General Zinny who opposed of the invasion now thinks that we should have more troops? Did you notice that General Batise, who was opposed to the conduct of this conflict also says that we may need tens and thousands of additional troops. I don’t understand General. When you have a part of Iraq that is not under our control and yet we still — as Al Anbar province is — I don’t know how many American lives have been sacrificed in Al Anbar province — but we still have enough and we will rely on the ability to train the Iraqi military when the Iraqi army hasn’t send the requested number of battalions into Baghdad. ABIZAID: Senator McCain, I met with every divisional commander, General Casey, the core commander, General Dempsey, we all talked together. And I said, in your professional opinion, if we were to bring in more American Troops now, does it add considerably to our ability to achieve success in Iraq? And they all said no. And the reason is because we want the Iraqis to do more. It is easy for the Iraqis to rely upon to us do this work. I believe that more American forces prevent the Iraqis from doing more, from taking more responsibility for their own future. http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/...d-mccain-iraq/ Gee it sure sounds like General Abizaid the head of CENTCOM and the head of operations in Iraq says that stay the course is the best option, imagine that. [...] [...] MCCAIN: Did you note that General Zinny who opposed of the invasion now thinks that we should have more troops? Did you notice that General Batise, who was opposed to the conduct of this conflict also says that we may need tens and thousands of additional troops. I don’t understand General. When you have a part of Iraq that is not under our control and yet we still — as Al Anbar province is — I don’t know how many American lives have been sacrificed in Al Anbar province — but we still have enough and we will rely on the ability to train the Iraqi military when the Iraqi army hasn’t send the requested number of battalions into Baghdad. ABIZAID: Senator McCain, I met with every divisional commander, General Casey, the core commander, General Dempsey, we all talked together. And I said, in your professional opinion, if we were to bring in more American Troops now, does it add considerably to our ability to achieve success in Iraq? And they all said no. And the reason is because we want the Iraqis to do more. It is easy for the Iraqis to rely upon to us do this work. I believe that more American forces prevent the Iraqis from doing more, from taking more responsibility for their own future. http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/…d-mccain-iraq/ Gee it sure sounds like General Abizaid the head of CENTCOM and the head of operations in Iraq says that stay the course is the best option, imagine that. [...]

]]> By: Richard http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-1152332 Richard Sun, 19 Nov 2006 01:38:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/#comment-1152332 The Iraq War has been an unintended gift from USA to the terrorists who are now emboldened more than ever. And, McCain doesn't get it, and wants to prolong the agony of this mis-gotten WAR. We don't have to read tea leaves to see REALITY here. We lost the Iraq War the day we started it. History will continue to be fruitful in supplying us the complete truth of how MIS-GOTTEN the WAR has been and will be FOREVER. GOD BLess America, we need to correct her course. We will be able to be proud again when we can admit our fallacy and find the right path forward. (We know the Truth by the evidence for it) The Iraq War has been an unintended gift from USA to the terrorists who are now emboldened more than ever. And, McCain doesn’t get it, and wants to prolong the agony of this mis-gotten WAR. We don’t have to read tea leaves to see REALITY here. We lost the Iraq War the day we started it. History will continue to be fruitful in supplying us the complete truth of how MIS-GOTTEN the WAR has been and will be FOREVER.

GOD BLess America, we need to correct her course. We will be able to be proud again when we can admit our fallacy and find the right path forward. (We know the Truth by the evidence for it)

]]> By: Karim http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-1150792 Karim Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:19:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/#comment-1150792 Abizaid is a war criminal. This masskiller must be prosecuted. Abizaid is a war criminal.

This masskiller must be prosecuted.

]]> By: sharon http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-1142923 sharon Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:17:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/#comment-1142923 This is what we and the generals need to overcome: http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/vie wtopic.php?t=9179&sid=23b3b5c6e436b7ca711e10f4b944cd2f I'm counting all those who are or have been directly employed by the current administration, or appointed to boards, staff, etc. Also including those involved under Reagan, as well as the two Bush, since the elder Bush was VP under Reagan: Robert Gates Admiral John Poindexter Colin Powell Porter Goss Negroponte Richard Armitage Donald Rumsfeld Dick Cheney Michael Ledeen Stephen Bryen Richard Perle Douglas Feith Paul Wolfowitz John Bolton Andrew Card Chertoff Karl Rove Paul Bremmer Otto Reich Elliott Abrams This is what we and the generals need to overcome:

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/vie

wtopic.php?t=9179&sid=23b3b5c6e436b7ca711e10f4b944cd2f

I’m counting all those who are or have been directly employed by the current administration, or appointed to boards, staff, etc. Also including those involved under Reagan, as well as the two Bush, since the elder Bush was VP under Reagan:

Robert Gates
Admiral John Poindexter
Colin Powell
Porter Goss
Negroponte
Richard Armitage
Donald Rumsfeld
Dick Cheney
Michael Ledeen
Stephen Bryen
Richard Perle
Douglas Feith
Paul Wolfowitz
John Bolton
Andrew Card
Chertoff
Karl Rove
Paul Bremmer
Otto Reich
Elliott Abrams

]]> By: sharon http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-1142919 sharon Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:13:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/#comment-1142919 You are right, JumpWings. The World Cant Wait is a good site for activism and Impeachment Central with information on Cindy Sheehan's current and past activities for peace are at AfterDowningStreet.org You are right, JumpWings. The World Cant Wait is a good site for activism and Impeachment Central with information on Cindy Sheehan’s current and past activities for peace are at AfterDowningStreet.org

]]> By: bootstraps http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-1142786 bootstraps Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:44:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/#comment-1142786 Iraq needs to pull itself up by its bootstraps. if welfare mothers in the US can do it, so can Iraqis. Iraq needs to pull itself up by its bootstraps. if welfare mothers in the US can do it, so can Iraqis.

]]> By: doug http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-1142500 doug Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:37:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/#comment-1142500 McCain is totally uninformed about the Military situation in Iraq. The President of the United States has not kept the Senators informed about the attack on Iraq. Bushco lied to go in and then forget to tell the Senate what is going on. The Senators have been rubber stamping money for the attack on Iraq without any oversight. What is the main purpose of the Senate? I believe it is oversight of money bills. Shame on the Senators who voted in favour of even one single bill relative to the attack of Iraq. A Senator is not aware that the USA military does not even have a 20,000 personel hedge in case of emergency? We already know that the attack made on Iraq has drained the National Guard back in the USA so that every one is as safe as a drowning rat if you get a storm. McCain along with a mass of other Senators do not have the credentials to govern. McCain and other Senators are irresponsible beyond belief. McCain is totally uninformed about the Military situation in Iraq. The President of the United States has not kept the Senators informed about the attack on Iraq. Bushco lied to go in and then forget to tell the Senate what is going on. The Senators have been rubber stamping money for the attack on Iraq without any oversight. What is the main purpose of the Senate? I believe it is oversight of money bills. Shame on the Senators who voted in favour of even one single bill relative to the attack of Iraq.

A Senator is not aware that the USA military does not even have a 20,000 personel hedge in case of emergency? We already know that the attack made on Iraq has drained the National Guard back in the USA so that every one is as safe as a drowning rat if you get a storm.

McCain along with a mass of other Senators do not have the credentials to govern. McCain and other Senators are irresponsible beyond belief.

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