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By: Steve K

Steve K — Thu, 23 Nov 2006 05:54:58 +0000

And what about the cowards who write in Blogs with not much to say other than we should all be left to sleep with our heads in the sand and play our video games after a country we invaded whose murderous, genocidal dictator is behind bars – while the country itself disintegrates into sectarian violence with death squads, murdered, tortured men, women and children dying in droves along with our own citizenry?

Wow, douchebags – you’re right – its actually way easier to come off righteous and clever – without actually DOING anything or contributing to the elevation of the discussion.

Now I know who the cowards REALLY are.

By: Robert

Robert — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:08:42 +0000

and let them be followed by all the cowards in congress the voted to send us there.

and the cowards that supported us until we started taking losses can be third in line.

By: pete

pete — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:33:37 +0000

let the cowards in the whitehouse lead the charge in downtown baghdad.

By: Robert

Robert — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 00:20:41 +0000

Doug, I actually read very well. And I am also very familiar with research. Rule number one of GOOD research is to use more than one source. Rule Two is to use TANGIBLE facts, as in something that can be proven. And the unwritten rule is to not use speculation, talking points and pure emotion in the presentation of your information.

You need to learn about the art of debate. Rule one, do not personalize it. If it is a personal attact on ones CHARACTER, Intelligence, or beliefe system, it does not belong in a debate.

You must be one of those that goes to these blog to pat backs of those who think as you do and not to have an honest exchange of differing views.

Walt, I do not dispute #89, at the same time you contridicted Juan C when he said that all the wars we have been involved in were instigated by the U.S.

By: doug

doug — Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:46:24 +0000

#61 Robert

I assumed you could read. Have a friend help you do some research. It isn’t to much of a chore. I am sure many people will be glad to help you better yourself.

By: Juan C

Juan C — Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:48:29 +0000

# 87. Walt. I appreciate your post. Thank you very much.

By: WaltTheMan

WaltTheMan — Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:21:42 +0000

#88 – Robert,
The technology lift was an afterthought once the war was won. The reason for going into the war was that Germany had declared war against the U.S. shortly after the Pearl Harbor raid on 12/07/1941.

By: Robert

Robert — Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:25:55 +0000

If Germany had the population and the resources of the United States, we would have been toast.

Walt, you make a valid point on this. But the ” technology lift” was not the premise for going to war. Also keep in mind the large number of German scientists the defected to the U.S. and assisted us with the war effort. Or the resistance movements throughout Europe that stood up and fought the Nazis. Those are some of the elements missing in Iraq.

Juan,

I am not ignorant enough to think that ANY government , as a body, cares for it’s people. I do think that there are people in ALL governments that do care and are trying to do their best. EVERYONE needs to realize that all politicians are in their offices for their own personal gain. It does not matter what party they belong to.

By: WaltTheMan

WaltTheMan — Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:56:35 +0000

#85 – Juan C,
It was a technology lift. Pops was a boy genius – went to MIT at 16 and had his PhD at 22. He also spoke German as his family used it at home as a second language. He was one of those selected to pick up on the technologies developed by the Axis powers during the late 30’s and early 40’s.
Jet engine – while the British had invented this jewel, the Germans managed to perfect it. Using the design from a Fokker fighter, the people at Lockheed’s Skunk Works and General Electric managed to ‘develop’ the Starfighter in about 90 days.
Rockets – the liquid fuel technologies developed by von Braunâ€™s team are the basis for rocketry today. The pumps, the cooling and chamber configuration are virtually unchanged from those days.
Electronics â€“ primarily wave guide technology where the Germans, while late in microwaves, were years ahead in using this technology. They had also miniaturized the beam pentode (vacuum tube). RCAâ€™s efforts in this final area produced molten glass.

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By: Juan C

Juan C — Fri, 17 Nov 2006 05:02:07 +0000

If Germany had the population and the resources of the United States, we would have been toast.
Comment by WaltTheMan

I seriously doubt it, Walt. Look at Vietnam and Iraq.

But, yeah, I agree they had the best technology there. Could you possibly expand your post about your father? Im not trying to know personal details, just first hand info of what was going there. Thanks.

By: WaltTheMan

WaltTheMan — Fri, 17 Nov 2006 04:45:37 +0000

#79 – Juan C,
You would not believe how much of the industry and technology of Nazi Germany was imported into the U.S. immediately after WWII. My father was over there for about six months after the war, picking up technologies in electronics, jet aircraft and rocket engines. If Germany had the population and the resources of the United States, we would have been toast.
#80 – Robert,
Yup, the Iraqi’s marauded their heritage.

By: Juan C

Juan C — Fri, 17 Nov 2006 04:24:20 +0000

Geman manufacturing was left pretty well intact, but the Allies took the slave labor away and the Germans had to do the work again.
Comment by Robert

mmm…probably. The thing is that Germany had the best (threatened, scared or against Nazism…but the best) aerodynamicists in the whole world. Well, they had the best scientists at that time. Do you think they were going to leave that war machine without using?