Experts reassert: Iraq is a civil war.
“While American commanders have suggested that civil war is possible in Iraq, many leaders, experts and ordinary people in Baghdad and around the Middle East say it is already underway, and that the real worry ahead is that the conflict will destroy the flimsy Iraqi state and draw in surrounding countries,” the Washington Post reports. “The war will be over Iraq, over its dead body,” said one expert.
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Everyone knows Bush doesn’t listen to experts. It’s all about those generals on the ground, who according to Boehner, should get all the blame for how bad things are going in Iraq.
November 16th, 2006 at 2:07 pmAmerica’s Least Wanted
duh
November 16th, 2006 at 2:08 pmWho / what defines a “Civil War”? What is the criteria and what would happen if it were to be called a civil war?
November 16th, 2006 at 2:22 pmhellinabucket,
Seems like Iraq fits the definition of civil war to me.
November 16th, 2006 at 2:38 pmhttp://www.crooksandliars.com/
UCLA student tortured!
November 16th, 2006 at 2:41 pm#4. Then lets quit the samantics and see it for what it is. Different factions inside Iraq are attacking each other and are increasing in intensity and severity. How many more bodies with drill holes in them have to be found before we can all say it’s a civil war. Bush doesn’t want that stigma on his legacy but it’s already here.
November 16th, 2006 at 2:44 pmIt is not a civil war until the Decider says it is. Congressman Pete King (R) said it’s as safe as his home district of New York.
November 16th, 2006 at 3:31 pmAmen…Amen….even we “sideline quarterbacks” knew that one! The more this administration protests this absolute fact, the more outraged the people will become so let them continue their drivel and lies….it will only turn more americans away from the Repugnants in 08! John McCain, in particular, with his “one more push”…..really will get “one big shove” from the american people. His chances of presidency are slim to none with his pro war posturing. Besides, he an old codger and we’ve had enough of the senile dementia to last us a lifetime!
November 16th, 2006 at 3:38 pmIsn’t the Decider and the Fool on the Hill one and the same? (sorry Fool on the Hill….just a little comic relief here!). hahahah!
November 16th, 2006 at 3:38 pmAlso, just wondering what Orwell would consider a “civil war”….take just the opposite position and there you have it! 1984 - 22 years later.
November 16th, 2006 at 3:39 pmSeems like everyone who is expected to know has declared that Iraq has disintegrated into civil war. Only the boneheads in DC and the generals who serve them are loathe to say so.
November 16th, 2006 at 4:51 pmBut the point is, civil war acknowledged or not, where the hell are things headed? It doesn’t look hopeful for Iraq and not for the region. The spilling over of war in Iraq to the surrounding areas will make the war in Iraq look like a cakewalk. In fact, didn’t Cheney and the neocons say as much? They were so far afield, so incredibly wrong, so disastrously mistaken and their judgment has proven so deadly, yet they carry on as if they are not responsible.
I don’t want them to have to wait to burn in hell - there may not be a hell - I want them to be punished now.
Civil War is simply two ‘local’ groups engaged in battle. Which one of these groups would be our “enemy”….or is it a case of our military being caught in the crossfire?
November 16th, 2006 at 4:56 pmI just saw a story in the LA Times Online saying the US government is considering backing the Shiites over the Sunnis, to try and end this thing. I think this will only draw other countries into this conflict. All of Iraq’s neighbors have Shiites and Sunnis, some with Sunni majorities.
November 16th, 2006 at 5:10 pmIf it sounds, walks and talks like a civil war….
send Dick Cheney ahuntin’
Watch out George Duckya….Itth Duckya theathon….
http://www.hyperrealpolitik.blogspot.com
November 16th, 2006 at 5:14 pmbeltman713
-Maybe but the Sunni countries are chickshit, Syria, Jordan…couldn’t fight their way out of a paper bag.
Iran is warisome but only on paper, its a paper tiger, infact all these countries are.
Turkey wont do anything cause they never do anything (except invade Cyprus - well they might do that again) and they should be told to STFU about the Kurds.
November 16th, 2006 at 5:18 pmINfact maybe we have to back the Kurds to get at last ONE nation in the region to like us, be nice to us and use as leverage against the other nogoodniks.
All the other socalled allies are either obstructionist (Turkey a useless ally), or really helpful like Saudi (they fly planes into our buildings), or Israel the money pit, or are out to get us like Iran….some friends…
November 16th, 2006 at 5:23 pmhellinabucket, Juan Cole has cited what seems to be a standard definition of civil war, at least in academia:
November 16th, 2006 at 6:15 pmWait a minute, wait a minute!
You all get that wrong here. There is no civil war in Iraq. Nope. Everybody knows those ‘Oriental’ folks have a short temper, right? So when good ol’ Uncle Sammy decidered to take out the obstacle-in-oilflow-chief Sad-dumb Who’ssayin? from the One Thousand And First Night some people got angry. Now that might not be a problem at all in Alabama, in Desertland it sure is. Not for no reason there is this thing called Blood-Revenge. Initially a biblical concept it was willingly adapted by our Arabian brothers. So now they are just really angry with each other. And as they were told many times, because the Koran is nothing else but a Rewrite of the oldest Fairy Tale around, an eye goes for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, bomb for bomb, massacre for massacre. So we are not looking at a civil war, but rather on some sort of dispute that got kind of out-of-hand. Now there is people getting worried on the other side of the world, that the revenge concept will strike again. 3000 in New York versus a few hundred thousand ‘over-there’. That cannot be left unanswered from the revenge point of view. There is something like honor that needs to be defended.
And we should not be worried like Harry Lauder tells everybody: All the Arabian Brothers of our Arabian Brothers “can’t fight their way out of a paper bag.” That’s right, they just bomb their way out. And Uncle Sam just accidently hit a hornet’s nest with a baseball bat. Mission accomplished so to speak…
This is not a cilvil war. This is World War $$$ coming in slowly but surely. Hey Harry! Watch that Pakistani Nuke blowing up Your paper bag.
And exactly why would the dominator give his powers back, powers he needed to change the Constitution of the United States Of America for in order to obtain?
November 17th, 2006 at 2:55 am