Leahy Calls On Justice Department To Investigate Laura Ingraham’s Phone Jamming
Leahy Calls On Justice Department To Investigate Laura Ingraham’s Phone Jamming
On election day, ThinkProgress posted audio of right-wing radio host Laura Ingraham urging her listeners to obstruct efforts to protect voting rights by jamming a free voter protection hotline.
Yesterday in a Senate Judiciary Commmittee hearing, Pat Leahy (D-VT) asked Wan Kim, Assistant Attorney General for the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division, whether his department would be investigating Ingraham’s phone jamming. Kim said Ingraham’s actions sounded like a “voter fraud scheme,” but that they didn’t fall under his division’s responsibilities, which cover “voter access.” Watch it:
(HT: Glenn Greenwald)
Transcript:
LEAHY: I hear about so many candidates and political parties trying to interfere or intimidate people so that they won’t vote. According to press accounts, right-wing radio host Laura Ingraham, urged listeners of her radio show to jam a phone line set up by Democrats to investigate alleged voter irregularities. She told her listeners, everybody call that voting line all at the same time and basically mark it inoperative. Is that something that your division investigates?
KIM: Senator, that is a very good question. I share your concern about any sort of dirty trick or scheme to tell people not to vote or have people not vote because I agree with you that voting is the essence of our society and our democratic society and everyone who should vote should get out there and vote on Election Day. Historically, within the Department of Justice, we have divided responsibilities, between the civil rights division — to enforce voter access — and the criminal division — to police voter fraud and voter fraud schemes, like the one you mentioned. For example, it is the criminal division that spearheaded –
LEAHY: But to voter access — but if you’re jamming the things that enable voter access, does that come under your –
KIM: No, no senator.
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Watch the rightard traitors tell him once again to go f*ck himself.
November 17th, 2006 at 1:42 pmI can already hear Ingraham shrieking and squealing like a pretty little pig.
November 17th, 2006 at 1:43 pmOK, so Repubs try to suppress the vote and Dems try to "excess" the vote (dead people, homeless, illegals, etc.)
The only difference is that when the Repubs lose a close one they don't run to the courts demanding a recount (see Gore, 2000) and claim that the election was "stolen".
November 17th, 2006 at 1:47 pmPEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF BUSH AND HIS STAFF and we discuss about some f**ng playstation. I mean…if we do that, we are all f**ed up.
Comment by Juan C — November 17, 2006 @ 1:15 pm
Edited for clarity:
November 17th, 2006 at 1:49 pmPEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF BUSH AND HIS STAFF and we are discussing phone calls to a hotline? I mean…if we do that, we are all f**ed up.
#4 - Sorry, Tundra. It's not the same.
November 17th, 2006 at 1:51 pmTundra...what hotline?
November 17th, 2006 at 1:51 pmA non-issue that's a waste of time and will go nowhere. Move on, Mr. Leahy....
November 17th, 2006 at 1:57 pmIt's called MULTI-TASKING. Can your brain handle more than one subject at a time?? we cannot let them get away with crap like that. Sorry you feel differently.
November 17th, 2006 at 1:58 pmWe should not forget that minions in place by Bush&Co are loathe to do anything that might create any uncomfortable situation for one of their propagandists. It does not fall under their jurisdiction.
November 17th, 2006 at 1:59 pmIt doesn't sound like he calledon the Justice Department for an investigation into it as much as asked the guy if that is something that they do investigate.
November 17th, 2006 at 2:01 pmI agree that nothing, however trivial it may now appear, should be overlooked in pursuit of justice for the crimes and obstructionist methods used by Bush&Co or their propagandists. Death by a thousand cuts is effective in the end.
November 17th, 2006 at 2:03 pmAs if the juanta's justice department has spent any time worried about civil rights or voter access.
pretty? Go over to firedoglake and look at the vid they have up of her. After you're done you may want to revise your post.
November 17th, 2006 at 2:03 pmHow is calling a phone number that disconnects the call before you get any information supressing anyone's right to vote.
November 17th, 2006 at 2:06 pmBush was the first party to "lawyer up" in the Florida recount.
-GSD
November 17th, 2006 at 2:06 pmThere has never been any credible evidence that the GOP supressed any voter turnout. There is plenty of evidence showing how the left has tried to steal elections with the no standard recount they wanted in 2000, the omission of overseas military ballots that they wanted in 2000, the fact that they oppose the idea that a voter should have to provide ID when voting, and the fact that Clinton ordered that there be no polling places on military bases before the 1996 election.
The republicans lost and none of them claimed the election was stolen, none of them claimed fraud, none of them demanded the courts get involved.
Newsflash Leahy, Laura Inghram has the same freedom of speech that Al Franklen and Randi Rhodes have. She has the right to tell her listeners to call a free number advertised as "voter protection". NBC doesn't have to air the Dixie Chicks documentary ad, radio stations don't have to broadcast Air America, and Cheney has the right to tell this jackass to F*#! himself.
Aint america great?
November 17th, 2006 at 2:07 pmKevin: "How is calling a phone number that disconnects the call before you get any information supressing anyone’s right to vote."
The head of the republican party was indicted and convicted of election fraud in New Hampshire for pretty much the same thing a couple of years ago. Whether or not you recognize it as such, it is election fraud.
November 17th, 2006 at 2:11 pmtruthdetector: "There has never been any credible evidence that the GOP supressed any voter turnout."
If you're going to call yourself that, maybe you should get your facts straight. The head of the republican party in New Hampshire was already convicted of election fraud for surpressing the vote with phony phonecalls.
November 17th, 2006 at 2:16 pmI really like the mispronunciation of her name and the 'fact' that she's a right-wing phone host(ess).
November 17th, 2006 at 2:16 pmTruthdetector, is your name meant as satire? Because you seem to have a problem with the truth. As the media-educational consortium found by studying Florida ballots, if all of Florida's ballots had been recounted, Gore would have won using ANY standard. And, the question regarding military ballots was NOT whether the military has the right to vote. There were a huge number of technically illegal votes which came in. Some of Gore's people wanted to challenge them. They decided not to challenge them. If you're going to call yourself that, get your facts straight.
November 17th, 2006 at 2:22 pmI think truthdetector's problem is similar to many conservatives. They seem to have a blind spot for facts which don't support their world view. When Laura Bush was asked in Ireland if she was bothered by the angry demonstrations, she answered, 'well, I havn't seen any demonstrations. People have been nice." These were the biggest political demonstrations in Ireland's history.
November 17th, 2006 at 2:25 pmGood. She deserves what she gets. Messing with 'the vote' is one of the most dispicable things you can do.
http://www.getsomejosh.com
November 17th, 2006 at 2:26 pmSpudgeBoy...the 30% are as stubborn as mules!....I guess we have to sit them down with a big crayon and draw apples....lol. Keep up the good work.
November 17th, 2006 at 2:30 pmGood, put her ass in jail.
November 17th, 2006 at 2:36 pmDear Progs - How many elections did "evil" Repubs manage to steal right out from under your noses?? None.....
Why don't you ask: WHY do Dems support voter fraud by not supporting photo ID's requirements to vote?? The "cacaphony of the permanently offended" generally respond with, "THAT is SUCH a hardship on the old, poor, illegal, etc." These folks have to prove who they are when they cash a paycheck, welfare check or open a bank account for their Social Security direct deposit. Maybe Senator Leahy should investigate the fraud perpertrated by Dems - after he takes Dick Cheney's advice and finishes phoucing himself - did I spell that correctly Sponge Cake?
November 17th, 2006 at 2:39 pmDid mighty just post something???
November 17th, 2006 at 2:40 pmTundra…what hotline?
Comment by Juan C — November 17, 2006 @ 1:51 pm
On election day, ThinkProgress posted audio of right-wing radio host Laura Ingraham urging her listeners to obstruct efforts to protect voting rights by jamming a free voter protection hotline.
Perhaps Taguba has a point about you :)
November 17th, 2006 at 2:40 pm#3, it was not Gore who went to court in 2000, it was Bush that filed a suit to stop the recount. Check your facts.
November 17th, 2006 at 2:40 pmLeahy is an idiot.
We have bigger fish to fry than Ingraham.
November 17th, 2006 at 2:42 pmBush was the first party to “lawyer up†in the Florida recount.
-GSD Comment by GSD -
**********Don't you get tired of being wrong so often?? They both lawyered up - and technically, when Gore's attorneys requested the "four county only" recount - he lawyered up FIRST.
November 17th, 2006 at 2:50 pmYellowdog,
I have more than one frying pan available at any one time and am able to multi-task. They keep doing this shit because they get away with it everytime.
November 17th, 2006 at 2:52 pmWow, the trolls are jumping all over this thread with both feet. This suggests to me that Rove et all are very worried that there may be some oversight on their propaganda machine coming up.
November 17th, 2006 at 2:55 pmWhich of course we need...
Ingraham isn't a very big fish, granted, but it would be great to have a precedent in place by smacking her down, next stop O'Leilly!
How can you wingnuts live with yourselves? I just don't understand how your fear can be bigger than your shame.
Fry all the bastards and bitch of the GOP. All 50,000 or 100,000 of them. Put them on real Work Gangs to build the border fence!
November 17th, 2006 at 2:55 pmPatrick is THE man. I live in Cali but subscribe to his newsletters. Here is a legit politician, one that does not make my skin crawl. Leahy walks the talk.
Go get her Patrick, crush her treasonous behavior under the full force of the law.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:07 pmMighty Asinine, instead of referencing things from the past (a convenient dodge tactic you seem to love), why not just look at this case as if it were in a vacuum.
Ingraham used her media-megaphone to stir up her listeners to jam a voter protection hotline. It's a really low thing to do no matter what party she is a supporter of. If you can't wrap your mind around that it is really a bad reflection on your views of Democracy. And whatever excuse you may want to conjure up to defend lil Ms. Ingraham - this being the actual topic, NOT who did what after the Katherine Harris show - just won't stick. What she did was encourage voter suppression, and that is wrong.
Stop grand-standing about some that went down 6 years ago.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:16 pm"Kim said Ingraham’s actions sounded like a “voter fraud scheme,â€
Really! What part of it had anything to do with voters committing fraud?
"but that they didn’t fall under his division’s responsibilities, which cover “voter access.â€
Voter access -- VOTE FRAUD.
The 'voter fraud' buzzword is his way of telling Leahy he can go suck eggs.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:16 pmMy comment is to commentor Cynicon Implant — November 17, 2006 Comment # 4. who said "OK, so Repubs try to suppress the vote and Dems try to “excess†the vote (dead people, homeless, illegals, etc.)
The only difference is that when the Repubs lose a close one they don’t run to the courts demanding a recount (see Gore, 2000) and claim that the election was “stolenâ€."
Please learn your history... It was the Bush team that first filed the lawsuit... NOT the Gore team.... so you prove the point about the misinformation that the "right-wing" spreads (once again).
November 17th, 2006 at 3:21 pmDear Tweedster - Thank you for your input!! I should never respond to the tangential questions of Progs like GSD. Dems are not really concerned with suppression of votes or voter fraud. Ask your:
November 17th, 2006 at 3:41 pmWHY do Dems support voter fraud by not supporting photo ID’s requirements to vote?? The “cacaphony of the permanently offended†generally respond with, “THAT is SUCH a hardship on the old, poor, illegal, etc.â€
did mighty post something, again?
November 17th, 2006 at 3:56 pmmighty aphrodite: requirement to obtain a photo ID (at a cost of $20 in Georgia where the law was struck down) would represent a poll tax. Funny thing about poll taxes, they are outlawed by Amendment 24 to the United States Consititution. The Constitution trumps any voter ID law, period.
From the Wikipedia entry on Poll Tax:
in the United States, the term has come to be used almost exclusively for a fixed tax applied to voting
From the Constitution of the United States of America:
Amendment XXIV
Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any state by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.
Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:57 pm#48...
November 17th, 2006 at 4:04 pmMichael Crichton is NOT a scientist and thus NOT an expert on the environment and/or global warning??!!??
Huh, who woulda thunk?
A couple of you have responded to my post by saying, in effect, "It was the Bush team that first filed the lawsuit… NOT the Gore team". This is technically correct but I was referring to taking it to the FL Supreme Court. Sorry, I should have been clearer.
Still, why did Gore only ask for a recount in 4 heavily Dem counties? Doesn't that smack of "rigging"?
November 17th, 2006 at 4:11 pmMichael Crichton knows more about the environment than anyone on this website.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:12 pmI wonder who is going to investigate whether Ann Coulter is culpable for suggesting that Supreme Court Justice David Souter be poisoned before someone actually tried to poison him (and the others)?
http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/
November 17th, 2006 at 4:19 pmOzillini - Did you and Braid Faire go to the same law school, Matchbook U? Requirement of a photo ID is NOT a poll tax. Thank you for playing - but Wikipedia is not a credible source for this argument - no matter what Judge Judy says....
Do you think requiring a photo ID to board a plane is an unreasonable restriction on the travelling public.?
Do you think dead people and illegal immigrants should be allowed to vote? If so - You might want to seek employment with the Prog Activist group ACORN....
November 17th, 2006 at 4:25 pmmighty aphrodite, funny i didn't see anything in the Constitution of the United Sates regarding what may or may not be required to board a commercial aircraft. My point is, charging for an ID is a form of poll tax. This is illegal. That was the decision of US District Judge Harold L. Murphy, he determined that the fee for the ID was a poll tax. Do you think he attended Matchbook U? Was that on the campus of the University of Georgia, where Judge Murphy attended?
Have you been appointed a Federal Judge?
Also, as I have noted before, it's oxillini, ozillini.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:38 pmMighty Asinine, instead of referencing things from the past (a convenient dodge tactic you seem to love), why not just look at this case as if it were in a vacuum.
Mighty lives in a vacuum, with a vacuum brain, and clearly her logic sucks.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:52 pmMichael Crichton knows more about the environment than anyone on this website.
Comment by Cynicon Implant
Of course. Also he knows a lot more of mosquitos in amber stones.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:55 pmBush cultist: "Still, why did Gore only ask for a recount in 4 heavily Dem counties? Doesn’t that smack of “rigging�"
No, that's asking for a recount when results are incredibly close. It's asking for a recount in counties where they knew there were problems. And, you should be glad they were stupid enough to only ask for those counties. As a full review of all Florida votes showed, Al Gore would have won Florida if all votes were counted under ANY counting standard. The Florida Supreme court called for a full recount. The Supremes prevented a counting of the votes and gave the office to Bush. That's what happened. Most of us haven't forgotten and the result has been the world we live in today.
November 17th, 2006 at 5:21 pmPLC, since mighty seems to have left, could you please clarify to me where the bias and partiality is in this statement:
"From the Wikipedia entry on Poll Tax:
in the United States, the term has come to be used almost exclusively for a fixed tax applied to voting"
mighty felt it should be disregarded because it was sourced from Wikipedia. So, I went looking for another source on the definition of a poll tax. I came up with
poll tax (a tax of a fixed amount per person and payable as a requirement for the right to vote)
http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=poll%20tax
Now since mighty criticized my source, I'm sure there must be some substantive difference between these two definitions. But what do I know, I went to Matchbook U after all.
November 17th, 2006 at 5:53 pmRegarding Crichton, I don't think I've ever seen one of his books drop so fast off the best seller list as did "State of Fear." It was a story of power-mad, dishonest, politically scheming.....ENVIRONMENTALISTS???!!!! The good guys were captians of industry. Yeah. It wasn't one of his more impressive yarns.
November 17th, 2006 at 6:33 pmLet me see if I have something straight. Laura Ingraham came pretty close to breaking the law, and the Justice Department will not look into it because "it's not in their jurisdiction". But they have no problem going after journalists bold enough to report the misdeeds within the Bush administration? Unbelievable. And for all you right wing blowhards, keep in mind that Gore won the 2000 popular vote, and Kerry may have done so also in 2004--by 5 million votes, according to exit polls.
November 17th, 2006 at 6:38 pmKarim, since our state department protested the results in the Ukraine because of a 5% difference between exit polls and results, I'm guessing righties would have been screaming like banshies if Bush had lost under the same circumstances.
November 17th, 2006 at 7:05 pmBush cultist: “Still, why did Gore only ask for a recount in 4 heavily Dem counties? Doesn’t that smack of “riggingâ€?â€
Actually, Gore was following Florida law which allowed for a recount in a maximum of four Florida counties, to be chosen by the candidate requesting the recount.
November 17th, 2006 at 8:27 pmTHE REPUBLICANS ARE PROVEN CROOKS. THEY LIES, CHEAT AND STEAL. THEY'RE ESPECIALLY FOND OF STEALING ELECTIONS THROUGH VOTER FRAUD, ELECTION FRAUD, SUPPRESSING VOTES, JAMMING PHONE LINES, ROBO-CALLING, CORRUPT VOTING MACHINES, ETC. NOW THAT THE DEMOCRATS HOLD CONGRESS, THEY SHOULD MAKE ALL THIS ELECTION FRAUD MAJOR CRIMES PUNISHABLE WITH MAJOR PENALTIES AND PUT AN END TO ALL THIS CORRUPTION.
November 17th, 2006 at 8:34 pmYeah, ok, but I'm really more concerned about restoring habeas corpus and our other civil rights than chasing after this minor league dimwit.
November 17th, 2006 at 9:44 pmIsn't Ann Coulter in some voting trouble too?
November 17th, 2006 at 10:15 pmThe only thing more irrelevant than trolls are the tards who encourage them by responding to their knee-jerkoffery.
PETA (People for the Elimination of Trolls Anywhere)
November 18th, 2006 at 12:32 am#67 Isn’t Ann Coulter in some voting trouble too?
Comment by ForTruth
Yes. Ann-thrax apparently registered to vote (or tried to vote) at an address different from her legal home in Palm Beach, Florida.
November 18th, 2006 at 1:42 amLet's see. Blocking voter access to a voter help line is fraud, not access?
Who is this tool?
November 18th, 2006 at 2:33 amComment by Cynicon Implant — November 17, 2006 @ 1:47 pm
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Hey Moron. The court case is styled Bush vs. Gore. That means that Bush went to court, not Gore. Gore suppressed the full re-count which is guaranteed by FL state constutional law. When are you jackals going to quit spreading the lies of this evil administration and FOX News hounds? The Republicans stole that election, they stole the '04 election and tried to steal this last election...how else did the rethuglicans make it so close in so many races? Karl failed his math and didn't flip enough Diebold votes.
November 18th, 2006 at 9:53 amHow is what Malkin did not the same as a Denial of Service attack (except that it occurred outside of the the realm of the internet of course)? Does she also advocate DoS attacks on democratic sites?
November 18th, 2006 at 10:02 amLeahy's foundation in popularity is based on one word. Justice. He saved hundreds of Vermonters from documented corrupt police action. If we can properly support him he will help save millions of U.S. citizens from corrupt actions of politicians. He is often "one of the few" who stands up and in hindsight recognized as having the correct stand. The latest time he went against the majority?......Voting against helping a Nuclear India. If he was a bullshit politician, Vermonters would have voted him out a long time ago. Now he is joined by someone else who certainly gets the F word from the republican tyrants.....Messy hair, ranting and raving is Bernardo. Bernardo also votes with a concience. Write letters especially to your republican leaders that your not happy with the presidents advisers being let off the hook for helping start the police action in Iraq. What will we do when the muslim oppisition starts their Tet Offensive. It be nice if we werent around to find out. Read "Mocking Justice"
November 18th, 2006 at 11:04 ami am ***THRILLED*** that they are not just "letting bygones be bygones"!!!!
November 18th, 2006 at 11:27 ami thought for sure that this story would just disappear, or be written off as "cant you take a joke?"
I sent Sen. Leahy an email thanking him for pursuing the Malkin thing. Encouraging listeners to shut down a voter access hotline is not news or entertainment, it is a despicable attack on those attempting to safeguard the election process. Do you think that if the reverse had happened, if say Jon Stewart encouraged viewers to interfere with Republican operatives in place to monitor the election, that would have slid silently into the media abyss? If there is one thing both parties and their pundits should agree on it is that the election process must not be tampered with, it is the basis for everything America stands for.
November 18th, 2006 at 11:33 amWhen is our government going to enforce the law?
If Laura Ingraham gets away with this, what is the precedent set for future elections? What will other right-wing radio mouthpieces do to obstruct the democratic process.
I speak as a teacher from experience. It's fundamental that if you do not enforce a rule or law, then you will have a rise among those who wish to challanege the parameters to see what they can get away with. It's no different than those who break the speedlimit. If drivers see a cop pulling over someone, what do they all do? They slow down.
But this is the tenor of this administration. Bush invited all these radio mouthpieces into his office to give them talking points before the election. Breaking the law, undermining the democratic process, and using the Constitution as an rectum-wipe is what the mass media along with the American people are content to accept, or even ignore. The parameters are stretched for those who unconditionally support Bush. And yet those who are against him have felt the choke hold tightening.
Why is it a waste a time to investigate whether or not a crime was broken? Give Leahy the room he needs to expose injustice.
November 18th, 2006 at 11:40 am#76, I agree whole-heartedly. If you remember, these callers were RECORDED saying Laura Ingraham told them to call and tie up the lines as long as possible. For a good laugh, go to the Think Progess post on this from November 7. He sounds like a brain surgeon.
Also, in my previous post, I stated Malkin had encouraged this. i was wrong, it was Ingraham. My apologies to Malkin for that.
November 18th, 2006 at 11:51 amMaybe Senator Leahy should investigate the fraud perpertrated(SIC) by Dems - after he takes Dick Cheney’s advice and finishes phoucing himself.
Comment by mighty hypocrite —
Mighty Hypocritical Aphid,
November 18th, 2006 at 5:06 pmYou haven't provided any proof that voting fraud has been perpetrated by Dems. As is your (bad) habit, you are merely speculating that opposition to photo IDs means support of voter fraud. I myself would not necessarily be opposed to photo IDs if access to them were made free and easy. But, as other posters have already pointed out, $20 was judged to be akin to a "poll tax" and, thus, illegal. Also, I imagine $20 would be a burden on people liiving on a limited budget. Moreover, I have read that in Georgia the procedures for getting a photo ID are not available in all counties. And which ones, not? Just by coincidence, I suppose you would say, the ones with a heavily black population.
In the meantime, you obviously don't mind that Laura Ingraham incited her listeners over the airwaves to break the law. So why don't you first take Dick Cheney's advice and show Senator Leahy how it is anatomically possible?
# "Mighty Hypocritical Aphid,
You haven’t provided any proof that voting fraud has been perpetrated by Dems."
*******Dear Lora - Once again you confirm my suspicions - you are an under-achiever. Should you learn how to use "the Google" "St. Louis" and "ACORN" and "St. Louis County Registrar of Voters" might demonstrate the number of dead and frauulent voter registrations tossed.....Pssst....these registrations weren't submitted by folks hoping for a Republican win.....
November 18th, 2006 at 5:45 pmMighty Aphid,
November 18th, 2006 at 5:55 pmA "lawyer" who doesn't know how to spell legal terms like "breach" shouldn't talk about under-achieving. Now please take Cheney's advice and show Senator Leahy how to do it.
Ps. Mighty Aphid,
November 18th, 2006 at 6:42 pmYou didn't mention ACORN in this thread until #79, and I can hardly be expected to know what accusations you have brought up about it on other threads. From my own googling, I have not been able to ascertain that the accusations against ACORN have been proven yet. But Laura Ingraham's attempt to incite crime was heard over the airwaves and even recorded by some. In other words, she was caught in the act.
And, by the way, how many blacks wtihout felony records did Katherine Harris have purged from the voter rolls in Florida in 2000? Psst...the answer is more than a dozen times the number ACORN is accused of falsely registering in St. Louis.
The buck stops no where in the bush White House.
November 18th, 2006 at 11:17 pmpeople are dying because of decisions made by the bush regime which was installed in 2000 after extensive voter fraud esp. in Florida and again in 2004 with extensive election fraud both in intimidation, telling people that the voting day had been changed or sending people on Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell stationary to vote in the wrong precinct and extensive vote flipping and other massive cheating using Diebold and ES&S machines which are owned by Republican Congresspersons.
See THE GREEN PARTY RECOUNT SITE and Rep. Conyers' report on the Ohio Election Fraud Hearings WHAT WENT WRONG IN OHIO.
People are dying because election fraud placed the losers by and large republicans in dishonest elections into power.
George Allen and others were called off their calls for recounts because recounts would have shown how much the republicans cheated and that the wins by democrats were even greater amounts of votes by US citizens than reported.
November 18th, 2006 at 11:22 pmhttp://blog.lewrockwell.com/
Incumbency, Gerrymandering, and the Real Election
Posted by William L. Anderson
Laurence's post is even more pertinent when one realizes that the Republican losses would have been much greater had there not been so much gerrymandering of House districts over the past several years. Yes, some incumbents lost even their gerrymandered districts, but for the most part, the Republicans created a situation in which most of the House seats are safe seats -- for both parties.
In a recent column, Ann "Madame DeFarge" Coulter mocked the Democrats for not winning more seats, saying that it was a below-average loss for the party in power in a mid-term election. But Coulter's back-door crowing does not include the gerrymandering variable in this whole equation.
Perhaps the Republicans one day will realize just how destructive the Bush family has been to the party. (I'm not a Republican, and I am making this observation as an interested spectator.) Papa Bush gave us the first Gulf War, which really has been a war without end.
Dubya thought he would finish it, but he finished the Republicans instead.
Just before the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Paul Craig Roberts said that an invasion would be destructive to the Republican Party. James Taranto of the Wall Street Journal's "OpinionJournal" page held up the column for ridicule, and even today speaks in favor of what he calls the "Liberation of Iraq." (I find it interesting that a Neoconservative supporter of the war uses the same language to support it as the communists used when they would enslave a country.)...
November 18th, 2006 at 11:25 pm