REPORT: Karl Rove May Be Leaving The White House In ‘Weeks, Not Months’
REPORT: Karl Rove May Be Leaving The White House In ‘Weeks, Not Months’
The White House Bulletin, a service of Bulletin News, reports that White House senior political adviser Karl Rove — aka “Bush’s Brain” — may soon be on his way out:
The rumors that chief White House political architect Karl Rove will leave sometime next year are being bolstered with new insider reports that his partisan style is a hurdle to President Bush’s new push for bipartisanship. “Karl represents the old style and he’s got to go if the Democrats are going to believe Bush’s talk of getting along,” said a key Bush advisor.
Other elements are also at play: The election yesterday of Sen. Trent Lott to the number two GOP leadership position in the Senate is also a threat to the White House and Rove, who worked against him when he battled to save his majority leader’s job after his insensitive remarks about Sen. Strom Thurmond.
And insiders report that Bush counsel Harriet Miers isn’t a fan, believing that Rove didn’t do enough to help her failed Supreme Court nomination among conservatives. In fact, one top West Wing advisor said that the unexpected ouster of Rove aide Susan Ralston over ethics questions was orchestrated by Miers as a signal to Rove to leave. The advisor said that Rove is aware of the situation and that a departure might come in “weeks, not months.” A Rove ally, however, noted that he has a record of out-witting his critics.
Early this year, Rove gave up his role of overseeing policy development to focus more on politics with the approach of the fall midterm elections.
Rove said prior to the midterm elections that he had “the math” to prove the Republicans would win back the House and Senate. Rove’s predictions were proved wrong, earning him a public sniping at the hands of President Bush who said: “I obviously was working harder in the campaign than he was.”
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That’s such a tease . . .
What am I supposed to do with all this pent-up rage now?
We won on Nov. 7, Rumsfailed is out, Rove on his way . . .
Aha! The Do-Nothing Dems!!! I can’t wait.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:06 pmRove had his moment and was indeed a great politcal mind. He was very divisive and probably hurt the country overall as he was only about winning. Rove leaving is good for the country, but probably bad for the Repugs. Will him leaving mean the Dems will hold hands with Bush? How would that go over with this crowd? That soap opera will be fun to watch indeed!!!
November 17th, 2006 at 3:12 pmThis is not the end of Karl. It’s just time to go work on another campaign! Where do we think he’s going?
November 17th, 2006 at 3:12 pmAmerica’s Least Wanted
Another creep in a long line exiting the White House.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:13 pmMost go by subpoena, but KKKarl may leave before he’s summoned.
How’s the math working for you, Karl?
I think you forgot one integer in your election equation…
Americans aren’t as stupid as you predicted!
I know, you’ll do a book and make a Million $’s, but you won’t
be able to go outside without people laughing at you.
That’s gotta hurt, brainboy.
Maybe you & Rush can shack up with Gannon for a weekend.
Hannity could serve you cold ones while Rush gobbles Oxycontin.
Who knew retirment could be that much fun?
A Rove ally, however, noted that he has a record of out-witting his critics.
Rove doesn’t out-wit anyone. He is just less scruples -if any- about slinging mud towards his opponents and has no compunctions whatsoever about making the most unsavory accusations against them (does anyone remember the smear campaign against McCain’s for supposedly having an illegitimate black daughter?)
At any rate, this should be a very interesting development, if it really came to happen. I wonder what Rove’s “math” is on this one.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:14 pmWell, time to round up the extra campaign funds… time for a good ol’ fashioned bribe.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:14 pmWhere should we foward his mail……to prison!
November 17th, 2006 at 3:18 pmThe only way he should leave is handcuffed, or body bagged.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:19 pm“Bush’s new push for bipartisanship.” Puh-lease.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:20 pmSo Rumsfeld and Rove are to blame for all of the missteps.
That explains everything.
Now Bush can be the compassionate conservative he was born and bred to be.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:20 pmThis man will be a menace to America and the world no matter where he ends up.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:22 pmWoohoo. Dems take control of House and Senate. Rumsfeld left. Rove might leave.
It just keeps getting better and better!
November 17th, 2006 at 3:23 pmIf Harriet Miers is the mastermind behind Rove’s ouster, it kind of undermines the whole “she’s a dimwitted Bush puppet” meme. I mean, that guy has mystique, deserved or not.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:24 pmWhen you’re right, you’re right. When you’re wrong…
You go work for FOX.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:25 pmWasn’t this reported about this time last year in Time? Really I can’t take these teasers anymore. It is just cruel.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:26 pmI’ll give 50-to-1 odds that any book the Rover writes (unless he names names in the ongoing WH scandals) will be in the remainder bins and on Scaife’s Christmas list two months after they come off the presses.
Rethugs don’t think they need anything from him any more, and Dems despise him. Who else would buy his crap?
November 17th, 2006 at 3:26 pmNot gonna happen. Bush can’t take a piss without Rove directing the stream.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:28 pmMystique????
November 17th, 2006 at 3:29 pmMaybe balls, bu mystique????
Not to me he doesn’t.
Whaddya wanna bet he gets a nice job at Fox, they are pretty much his creation anyway.
Karl Rove sings a different tune when he is looking out for number one and now that he is cooperating in my prosecution of Scooter Libby and ongoing investigation of Dick Cheney.
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November 17th, 2006 at 3:31 pmDoes the god damn baby killer think that’ll keep his Christian terrorist ass out of prison? Or keep him from being handed over to the Hague for his eventuial execution?
November 17th, 2006 at 3:31 pmI think not. The only way that would happen is if Cheney had the stones and brains to march down to Patrick Fitzgerald’s office and show Fitzgerald that he, and not Rove, deserved to be given immunity — and give Fitzy the iron-clad dirt on Rove to prove it.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:33 pmBush without his “Brain”; what a scary thought.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:34 pmPHOTO CAPTION
November 17th, 2006 at 3:35 pmI, Karl “Himler” Rove, salute the Fuhrer
Well, this kinda has to do with Rove.
Read this article!!
November 17th, 2006 at 3:36 pmBi-partisanshp from Bush is a load of stinking crap!
That son-of-a-bitch is tryng to have congress vote/revote on the dickhead extremists were opposed last year. Bi-partisanship from Bush, HA.
It is attack or be attacked, that is Bush’s way and we must rise up and smack his traitorius as back down to depth of hell.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:37 pmWithout his “Brain”, Bush’s speeches and press conferences will consist of him stuttering and stammering complete nonsense.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:39 pmWhat? That’s what he does now?
Oh. Well then, Rove’s usefulness now that the elections were held and the thumpin done is pretty much nil.
Rove leaving is good for the country, but probably bad for the Repugs.
Comment by Roger_Roger — November 17, 2006 @ 3:12 pm
Wow! Roger acknowledges that Republican interests are diametrically opposed to the interests of the country… what next Roger acknowledges that his interests are diametrically opposed to the interests of reasonable people?
November 17th, 2006 at 3:40 pmAll this nice talk of bipartisanship will go right down the tubes in January the second Dems take control fer realz. We just have to put up with it for a couple of months.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:40 pmoh yeah, Bush is showing his “bipartisanship” – by ripping on Dems while overseas in Asia… he has not and will not change… I hope this is true about Rove, but I doubt it…
November 17th, 2006 at 3:45 pmAfter the continual lies and innuendo of sleazy Dems and Progs, Karl knows it’s time to take a break and re-group. (Good news Progs – with all the “accomplishments” Dems are sure to rack up in the next two years – this ought to be ALOT of fun!)
November 17th, 2006 at 3:47 pmLooks like the rats are leaving the sinking ship that is the failed Bush administration and its failed policies. Good riddance.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:49 pm[...] Ah, I doubt it. [...]
November 17th, 2006 at 3:49 pmwe should all be careful what we wish for….if Rove’s out of the West Wing that means he’s free to start planning campaigns for ‘08…
November 17th, 2006 at 3:49 pmMight A: “Alot” is two words.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:50 pm[...] read more | digg story [...]
November 17th, 2006 at 3:52 pmI am not prepared to celebrate just yet. I am suspicious that a Rove-exit would simply be window-dressing for the President’s Born Again Bi-Partisanship. Bush/Cheney won’t change and they will always have a lifeline to Rove, even as Kissinger/Baker/Gates move in with a clean-up crew. This is image, not substance. The whole damn crowd decided to lie down with dogs in the Reagan Era. Is it any wonder they still have fleas?
November 17th, 2006 at 3:56 pmWow are you deluded. Care to join us back her eon earth?
November 17th, 2006 at 3:57 pmI’m so sorry to hear that Karl Rove may be packing his Paris or Milan designer luggage and moving on. I hope the handsome, leather, eight-piece luggage set looks nice for the departing pictures.
Maybe Karl will be taking a cruise with Rosie’s vacation company. BTW, it’s a very gay-friendly, cruise-oriented vacation company. Karl needs a well-deserved vacation for the Republicans splendid showing on November 7th. Keep up the good work, Karl.
No, Karl– ONE VOTE PLUS ONE VOTE DOES NOT EQUAL SIX VOTES. Either get with the program or get a new calculator. On second thought, it might be a good idea to get a new brain.
It sounds as if Harriet Miers is a vindictive Christian. OMG! OMG! OMG! Vindictiveness is not a good family value. This party is supposed to be about family values, too. Shame on you, Harriet.
Harriet would be much, much, much, much, much less vindictive if she had a good Ozzie in her life. You know–a husband.
Let’s see. Karl is single, and Harriet is single. This must be a match made in heaven. OMG! OMG! OMG! Ted Haggard can pronounce them man and wife.
John
November 17th, 2006 at 3:57 pmWhat will PINKY do when the BRAIN leaves??? Don’t count these chickens until the eggs are hatched and the GOP pediphiles are chasing them.. KKKarl may show up anywhere possibly in a ReThug political toilet like Texas or one of the Carolina’s.
LORD call him home…oh I asked the wrong diety.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:57 pmSo…is Rove going to the mystery acreage in Paraguay to help prepare for Bush’s frantic retreat from a war crimes tribunal in the Hague?
And what about Rove’s Medal of Freedom that Bush hands out like candy to his heckuvajob friends?
November 17th, 2006 at 3:57 pmLooks like roast, stuffed Turdblossom for Christmas.
-GSD
November 17th, 2006 at 3:59 pmCheney’s next, just you watch. Can’t wait for that one to happen!!!!!!
November 17th, 2006 at 3:59 pmMighty, are you refering to the innuendo and sleaze that Rove pushed against McCain during the 2000 republican primaries? Or the swift boating of Kerry by Rove? Or Plame?
Karl has been in GW’s camp for so long there will be no regrouping. He is a political leper and won’t be touched by anyone with aspirations higher than local dog catcher.
You are right, it will be a lot of fun watching actual oversight (remember oversight?, didn’t think so). It will be hard work to just attempt to scrap through the sleaze that was oozed out by your friends DeLay, Cunningham, Hastert, and the gang but it’s about time to clean the house and the senate.
Besides, you’re so much better when you’re a whiny minority seeing how when the necons get the majority they crash and burn.
Outside looking in is sooooo much better for you (and the country).
November 17th, 2006 at 4:00 pmRove ain’t going nowhere. Bush couldn’t wipe his ass without him.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:03 pm#23
Does the god damn baby killer think that’ll keep his Christian terrorist ass out of prison? Or keep him from being handed over to the Hague for his eventuial execution?
Comment by Fredric L. Rice
No problem we kill babies all the time here in the good ole USA,
November 17th, 2006 at 4:04 pmright inside the womb
We are the greatest nation right?
I find it funny that Harriet only gave up Ralston to be vindictive and not out of any sense of duty. Can you believe Bush actually wanted her on the freakin’ Supreme Court?
Oh, can’t forget about Karl. So long Pig Face, we hardly knew ya’.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:06 pmYa gotta understand who the guy really is…. he is a schoolyard bully. PERIOD! All of his tactics were learned in grammar school – ALL OF THEM!
And about his special math???? Oh come on now! He didn’t finish his schooling becuase he probably thought he knew it all… especially statistics! If you don’t do that right, you are in a world of wrong. Some folks think that he did his “I have the math.” as a tactic to makes folks uneasy – it did me. I thought he knew something we should have known… from the press…. the PRESS…. not from the polls….. He had special polls? NOT! I assumed he had a pile of data that the rest of us plebeians didn’t have… WRONG! So, with that we now really understand how his ‘genius’ worked…. he was an ad man and nothing more…. he was an ad man without the tools, the real tools (thank goodness) of stats, math, and….. empathy…. the most important tool in politics.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:07 pmFor Rove and his buddies playing Politopoly: GO STRAIGHT TO JAIL – DO NOT COLLECT ANY MONEY
November 17th, 2006 at 4:08 pmA Rove ally, however, noted that he has a record of out-witting his critics.
It’s always about “winning” or “losing,” huh? Never about what’s best, or what is right, for the supposed leadership of this nation.
Turd blossom.
Turd, for short.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:10 pmJust remember, some of these people came out of Watergate from way back when (including Rove who was a low level scum back then if what I’ve heard is true) so be prepared for the next crop of scum to crawl back out from under their rocks in a few decades.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:10 pmYeah, Karl the jackal had the math like Bush had the Google.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:12 pmI dont’ believe it! A couple of days ago we had a story that Rove would stay put. He knows where the bones are buried. I’m inclined to believe that one. The only reason he would move on if there’s someone who wants a hired gun, assuming someone wants a gunslinger who can’t shoot straight, or shoots blanks.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:13 pmIt is possible with the coming democratic supena power Bush wants to save face and political “capital” for the republicans by making sure Rove is no longer in his administration when he is exposed.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:14 pm“his partisan style is a hurdle to President Bush’s new push for bipartisanship. ”
That is the funniest thing I’ve read in a long time. I think this is wishful thinking and Rove is going to be there for the long run.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:15 pm#59
November 17th, 2006 at 4:16 pmI’ve adopted two.
Mighty Aphrodite’s World of Mass Denial operates on “Red Queen Dynamics” in which everything happens in mirror image to our world of reality. If you want to end up in the North, you walk South. If you want to win, you have to lose. If you act in a corrup manner, you are moral. Her World of Mass Denial makes Through the Looking Glass sensible.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:17 pm“Karl represents the old style and he’s got to go if the Democrats are going to believe Bush’s talk of getting along,â€
You hear that you friggin’ trolls.
You and Karl’s style is old and out of touch. Your attacks no longer work. America has woken up from the nightmare of Karl Rove and you people.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
Excellent very well said! this is exactly the point of this piece. thanks
November 17th, 2006 at 4:20 pmBush couldn’t wipe his ass without him.
Does this mean that Bush has been wiping it WITH him? ‘Twould explain the nickname “Turd Blossom”.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:21 pmEditorial
Speaker Pelosi Tempts Disaster
Nancy Pelosi has managed to severely scar her leadership even before taking up the gavel as the new speaker of the House. First, she played politics with the leadership of the House Intelligence Committee to settle an old score and a new debt. And then she put herself in a lose-lose position by trying to force a badly tarnished ally, Representative John Murtha, on the incoming Democratic Congress as majority leader. The party caucus put a decisive end to that gambit yesterday, giving the No. 2 job to Steny Hoyer, a longtime Pelosi rival.
But Ms. Pelosi’s damage to herself was already done. The well-known shortcomings of Mr. Murtha were broadcast for all to see — from his quid-pro-quo addiction to moneyed lobbyists to the grainy government tape of his involvement in the Abscam scandal a generation ago. The resurrected tape — feasted upon by Pelosi enemies — shows how Mr. Murtha narrowly survived as an unindicted co-conspirator, admittedly tempted but finally rebuffing a bribe offer: “I’m not interested — at this point.â€
Mr. Murtha would have been a farcical presence in a leadership promising the cleanest Congress in history. Ms. Pelosi should have been first to realize this, having made such a fiery campaign sword of her vows to end Capitol corruption. Instead, she acted like some old-time precinct boss and lost the first test before her peers.
NEW YORK TIMES
November 17th, 2006 at 4:21 pmThere is no way that I’m going to comment on a speculation before it becomes a fact. Oops. Too late.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:23 pmExley: Unlike the Dems, the Repubs DID elect an enormously corrupt speaker just a few years back, by the name of Tom Delay. Despite the House leadership CHANGING THE ETHICS RULES TO ACCOMODATE HIS IMMORAL ACTS, Delay has now been indicted because of his level of corruption. As you can see, again, the Democrats prove they are wiser, more honest, and ethical.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:25 pmRove won’t be going to South America.
Rove will sign a multimillion dollar book deal. One must remember that millions still idolize the guy. Yes, it’s hard to believe, but there’s a lot of things that are hard to believe.
The book will be pure fiction. It won’t mention his gay father, or Rove’s homosexuality. Reading about his good friend Jeff Gannon would be interesting as Jeff is a well-known gay escort.
One thing is certain: the book won’t mention Karl’s
hot dates with the opposite sex, because there’s no dates with the opposite sex.
John
November 17th, 2006 at 4:27 pmIf there’s any reality here, I see to possible scenarios:
One is that Bush is pissed. He’d been reassured and kissed up too, and didn’t see the massive losses coming. If Rove told Bush the same things he told the press (e.g., if Rove was saying the same things in private as in public), Bush has every right to be pissed – Rove blew it. If this is the case, though, I suspect he’ll make a lot of noise about firing Rove within the Whitehouse, but ultimately keep him on.
After all, you can’t live without your brain, even if it’s damaged.
The other possibility is that something is about to drop on Rove. Abramoff, things a Democratic Congress with subpeona power, who knows. We all know he’s got a few dirty secrets – if ones about to pop out, Rove will find a sudden urgency in spending more time with his family about a day and a half before it goes public.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:27 pmprobably so
November 17th, 2006 at 4:30 pmHey, Exley, just stopped by on my way out and saw your post. It reminds me of something Dave Barry used to say in his humor column shortly after Bill Clinton assumed the office of the Presidency and the media was picking on Clinton in the first couple of months. Anytime Dave mentioned Clinton in his column, he used the phrase “the failed Clinton administration.” Wayne and I always got a kick out of it.
Hate to post and run, but I have to. J-E-T-S, JETS, JETS, JETS!
Have a great weekend, everyone!
November 17th, 2006 at 4:31 pm72. Delay wasn’t Speaker, he was majority whip. Although he did replace someone (forget his name) that was forced out. Delay wasn’t wanted as the majority whip at the time either but that’s been forgotten now that the repubs have to find something to piss and moan about.
Remember, the republican party is best when they are the minority. Their philosophies stand out more. When they get in power they show the democrats how to really kick up the debt, the redundant gov’t agencies and how not to keep checks and balances in place.
The Strong. The Small. The Republican Party.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:33 pmI’ve adopted two.
Comment by I have BDS
What harm have these kids done to have such an stupid person like you as a mother/father?
November 17th, 2006 at 4:35 pmmynameisexleyandihaveopinionstopassontoyoufromthecomputerserverwhoismysourceofallopinionsandfactsifitdoesnotoriginatefromthecomputerserverwhoismymasteritdoesnotcompute
November 17th, 2006 at 4:36 pmThis is typical of Mafia, ergo Republican Mafia. Things are hunky-dory and all’s peachy-keen until something backfires. Boy, but when it goes bad, bodies ‘ll be floating in the East River. Rummy left as his War went south, now Rove is going because his “hits” failed. The Repubs got on the wrong endo f the Valentine’s Day Massacre. so it’s time to deep-six the failures. “Bipartisan moves?” Unlikely. More like “revenge killings”
November 17th, 2006 at 4:40 pmWhat harm have these kids done to have such an stupid person like you as a mother/father?
Comment by Juan C
Ouch….damn.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:40 pmI hope this isn’t true. We need more of the self destructive politics practiced by ths Elmer Fudd looking closet-case. Rove is the number one reason that the Dems won. Please stick around, Pudgy, please
November 17th, 2006 at 4:43 pm#82
What harm have these kids done to have such an stupid person like you as a mother/father?
Comment by Juan C
Very interesting comment but they have done no harm.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:47 pmYou do not sound very compassionate toward little ones.
They are doing well in school and are definitely smarter than me.
Zooey you have kids?
November 17th, 2006 at 4:48 pmClinton held hands with the terrorists even after the bombed and killed Americans under his watch. How does that go over with you?
Comment by Roger_Roger
———-
REALLY?
GOT PROOF?
Just more Reichwing Retardation
November 17th, 2006 at 4:50 pm#72 – “Exley: Unlike the Dems, the Repubs DID elect an enormously corrupt speaker just a few years back, by the name of Tom Delay. ”
Comment by And You Thought REAGAN Was Stupid
*******Since Tom Delay was never voted Speaker – we now KNOW who is more stupid…thank you for demonstrating the uselessness of teaching monkeys to type…..
November 17th, 2006 at 4:52 pmem>Don’t ask me, I’m not in charge of the f*ck filter.
Comment by Zooey
No I know but that seems to be one of your fav words.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:52 pmIf he’s leaving, an indictment is pending.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:52 pm#77: Thanks for the correction. “Majority Whip” seems to fit Delay’s personality better anyway. :)
November 17th, 2006 at 4:53 pmBye karl, let me get that door for you…..PUSH…oh!.. you ok?, my foot slipped…
November 17th, 2006 at 4:53 pmWhen the ‘defeated’ say….ya butt….he was a great ,this or that…..that’s like saying Hitler wasn’t such a bad guy….
That fat prick isn’t going anywhere. This is it for him. Everything else is down hill.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:55 pm[...] believe it when I see it. Permalink| [...]
November 17th, 2006 at 4:56 pmZooey you have kids?
Comment by I have BDS
Yes. Why do you ask?
November 17th, 2006 at 4:57 pmNo I know but that seems to be one of your fav words.
Comment by I have BDS
It is.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:58 pmHate to see this little fat boy hit the road but he’ll be lucky to get out of dodge before being put behind bars….Aw, poor Karl…he’s such a bad loser that he can’t stand the heat of realizing that most of the investigations will center around him and his “brilliant architecture”….
November 17th, 2006 at 4:59 pm#22 – Thanks for Fitz’s website and letter. No doubt this is why Rove is trying to get out of town. If this is produced, I suppose it can mean the end to Cheney and Bush as well via impeachment and/or indictments. It’s going to be a very interesting two years….
November 17th, 2006 at 5:02 pmJust wondering that’s all
November 17th, 2006 at 5:02 pmJuan C you have kids?
November 17th, 2006 at 5:04 pmSpudgie the enlightened one.
November 17th, 2006 at 5:07 pmYou do not sound very compassionate toward little ones.
Comment by I have BDS
And thats because in my post i said…what about not being compassionate? I talked about you.
So, how does this work? I want to stop this war so a lot of broken families, orphans, maimed children can have an opportunity at least to stay alive.
And you still support your president in this war after 600,000 innocents have died? Im not compassionate? How can you look at your kids with a straight face? You are a disgrace, like anyone who enjoys blowing up people.
They are doing well in school and are definitely smarter than me.
Comment by I have BDS
I would bet.
November 17th, 2006 at 5:09 pmFINALLY — it’s about damn time! I couldn’t be happier (well, I could…but at least for the time being, Bush is still in the White House!)
Ta-ta, Turd Blossom!!
November 17th, 2006 at 5:10 pmCUT N’ RUN, That’s just what Donald Wimpsfeld did when he felt the slightest threat to his own behind, next to cut and run is, Carl, “We will f**k him. Do you hear me? We will f**k him. We will ruin him. Like no one has ever f**ked him.” Rove
November 17th, 2006 at 5:13 pm-to an aide about some political stratagem in some state that had gone awry and a political operative who had displeased him
Perhaps, finally, his much insider-known homosexuality is about to become public.
November 17th, 2006 at 5:15 pmJuan C you have kids?
Comment by I have BDS
I just dont know how any answer would contribute to the discussion.
November 17th, 2006 at 5:16 pmJust wondering that’s all
Comment by I have BDS
Could you have been thinking that I couldn’t possibly have children, and still hold the views I hold?
November 17th, 2006 at 5:16 pm#102
November 17th, 2006 at 5:17 pmJuan C you have kids?
I wonder if this means that KKKarl, Rick Santorum and Jeff Gannon will be going in business together?
November 17th, 2006 at 5:17 pmRove is only part of the problem. The WH is infested with a pro-Israel lobby that needs to be defanged in order for us to have a fair and impartial Middle East policy. Of course both the Democratic and Republican parties also have far too many that routinely put the interests of Israel before those of the US. Face it; they are traitors!
November 17th, 2006 at 5:22 pmCould you have been thinking that I couldn’t possibly have children, and still hold the views I hold?
Comment by Zooey
No just want to know if you are an adult person.
November 17th, 2006 at 5:24 pmWatch out for the “blame everybody but GW Bush” syndrome, soon to hit the media full force. True enough that everyone will have to work with Bush until the end of his term, but that doesn’t mean he needs to escape a drubbing. And please rememING, absolutely nothing, without someone to feed him policy, and lines, who shapes his thinking … and who might that be? Why, Cheney, of course now that Rumsfeld is gone. Even Condy doesn’t get his ear much these days. So we’ll probably be hearing all kinds of nonsense coming out Bush’s mouth, as he has to rely on himself for most of what he says and does. He’s truly the puppet in charge, is my opinion, who sounds good when he has a speech written for him, and who tries to charm the people he’s with by being somewhat overbearing, by making a joke or two to cut you down, and then apparently talking frankly. If the Democrats play it right, they can now run rings around him; if not, he’ll continue the devastating policies that are ruining the country.
November 17th, 2006 at 5:25 pm#102
November 17th, 2006 at 5:25 pmJuan C you have kids?
This is not the end of Karl. It’s just time to go work on another campaign! Where do we think he’s going?
Comment by budpaul — November 17, 2006 @ 3:12 pm
This comment is very astute!
At first I was in the camp that he’d stay for the duration because he’s intertwined in this power-grab agenda of the Administration.
However, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he turned up behind the frontrunner for the next skull-n-bones crony butt-boy republican presidential candidate.
The powers behind the power need those 2 years to indoctrinate and whip their “chosen one” into shape for the fight.
November 17th, 2006 at 5:26 pmDon’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out, Karl. (oh, and look out for a size ten in the backside too)
November 17th, 2006 at 5:26 pmBDS, how did Juan C’s comment lack compassion toward little ones? He obviously cares for them. It’s you – the enormous dumb shit, he’s cares nothing about.
November 17th, 2006 at 5:31 pmCUT N’ RUN,CUT N’ RUN, CUT N’ RUN, Who’s next? Doug Feith?
November 17th, 2006 at 5:31 pmNo just want to know if you are an adult person.
Comment by I have BDS
I am an adult woman, and my sons are adult men — loving, liberal, feminist men. I’m very proud of them both.
November 17th, 2006 at 5:36 pm#109
Juan C you have kids?
Comment by I have BDS
I just dont know how any answer would contribute to the discussion.
Comment by Juan C
Well for some reason you cannot answer a simple question.
November 17th, 2006 at 5:38 pmThat’s fine.
He is going to work for John MacCain. Good luck!
November 17th, 2006 at 5:42 pmWell for some reason you cannot answer a simple question.
That’s fine.
Comment by I have BDS
Of course, thats fine.
November 17th, 2006 at 5:45 pmJuan C
So, how does this work? I want to stop this abortion/war so a lot of broken families, orphans, maimed children can have an opportunity at least to be aborted.
And you still support your president in this abortion war after 40 million innocents have died? Im not compassionate? How can you look at your kids with a straight face? You are a disgrace, like anyone who enjoys killing innocent children in the womb.
Comment by I have BDS
November 17th, 2006 at 5:49 pmWell for some reason you cannot answer a simple question.
That’s fine.
Comment by I have BDS — November 17, 2006 @ 5:38 pm
Who are you, Sean Hannity?
November 17th, 2006 at 5:51 pmSo, how does this work? I want to stop this abortion/war so a lot of broken families, orphans, maimed children can have an opportunity at least to be aborted.
And you still support your president in this abortion war after 40 million innocents have died? Im not compassionate? How can you look at your kids with a straight face? You are a disgrace, like anyone who enjoys killing innocent children in the womb.
Comment by I have BDS
Comment by I have BDS — November 17, 2006 @ 5:49 pm
What the heck are innocent children doing inside wombs? They should be outside playing with friends. Wombs are for fetus’. A fetus is NOT a child, half brain.
November 17th, 2006 at 5:56 pmRumsfeld
Rove
Cheney
Bush
Whoever replaces Cheney is the next PUSA and the leading candidate for the GOP nomination for 08.
November 17th, 2006 at 6:01 pmI’ll believe it when I see it.
November 17th, 2006 at 6:05 pmAnd you still support your president in this abortion war after 40 million innocents have died? Im not compassionate? How can you look at your kids with a straight face? You are a disgrace, like anyone who enjoys killing innocent children in the womb.
Comment by I have BDS
So I guess I should be tried in The Hague every time I killed zillions jacking off. You are delusional.
November 17th, 2006 at 6:06 pmNO WAY!!! He was doing such a GREAT job being in charge of the Katrina relief. Whatever will the Katrina victims do now?!!
Probably finally get some relief . . . .
November 17th, 2006 at 6:10 pmRove May Leave In Weeks…
It’s rumored that the "Rove-man" could be leaving his job earlier than expected. Allegedly, Bush needs staff who are bi-partisan in spirit and Rove’s style doesn’t fit the bill….
November 17th, 2006 at 6:13 pmJust remember kids the Iraq war could not have been executed without the help of some Democrats. Americans are Natural Born Killers.
November 17th, 2006 at 6:17 pmA fetus is NOT a child, half brain.
Comment by bray
thank you oh god giver of life
November 17th, 2006 at 6:19 pmWhose campaign (or destruction) is he going to be planning next?
November 17th, 2006 at 6:19 pmThey wouldn’t just let him leave now, would they?
So I guess I should be tried in The Hague every time I killed zillions jacking off. You are delusional.
Comment by Juan C
Juan, Juan you did not have to share that.
November 17th, 2006 at 6:20 pmI will leave
go back to Karl
see ya
November 17th, 2006 at 6:22 pmSpeaking of Hitler and bray , the liberal Democrats and Hitler have a lot in common. They both believe in the destruction of sub-human beings. Hitler though the Jews were sub-human and worthy of destruction and the liberals believe babies are sub-human and worthy of destruction. Can you believe there are people proud of having abortions and actually fight for the right to destroy babies, they are called Democrats
November 17th, 2006 at 6:26 pmBe careful, Bushie! If you get rid of Karl, and he isn’t happy about it, you might find that Pandora’s box has been opened. He knows a lot about stolen elections, about Valerie Plame, and other kinds of juicy stuff.
November 17th, 2006 at 6:26 pmI’ll believe it when I see it.
November 17th, 2006 at 6:28 pmRight, he had a great political mind, and so did Hitler and Stalin.
November 17th, 2006 at 6:29 pmNot so soon Rovereich! Prosecutor Fitzgerald has your “october surprise” waiting for you….albeit a little belated but on it’s way, nevertheless.
November 17th, 2006 at 6:30 pmSpeaking of Hitler and bray , the liberal Democrats and Hitler have a lot in common. They both believe in the destruction of sub-human beings. Hitler though the Jews were sub-human and worthy of destruction and the liberals believe babies are sub-human and worthy of destruction. Can you believe there are people proud of having abortions and actually fight for the right to destroy babies, they are called Democrats
Comment by I have BDS — November 17, 2006 @ 6:26 pm
You are in insane! I thought you were leaving.
November 17th, 2006 at 6:45 pmI would imagine, that Rove is not in very good graces in the white house right now, after the republican defeat at the polls. Of course the republican party itself is realing a fair deal, so no suprise that shake ups can happen. Personally I prefer Karl where he can be seen, as opposed to hiding in the shadows.
November 17th, 2006 at 6:49 pmYeah, right. Rove’s going nowhere. This is just fodder for us to chew on………I’ll believe it when I see it. Just like Rove going to be indicted for the CIA leak case…..I don’t trust a damn thing.
November 17th, 2006 at 6:58 pmJust to correct the record:
In ‘94 Dick Armey became the Republican majority leader with Tom DeLay as his ‘whip’. Armey retired in ‘96 and DeLay became majority leader.
November 17th, 2006 at 6:58 pmNo Way! He’s going to be confirmed as the new Sec/Def! But I also heard he’s going to “architect” a heart attack for Vice, so he can take over in VPrez’s slot.
Or maybe LUCIFER needs a vacation, so KARL is hiring on as a TEMP.
Yeah, that’s the ticket.
hahahahaha~
November 17th, 2006 at 7:00 pmAt last the BRats are leaving the ship of the failed Bush Administration.
How “sad” that Bush-The Decider/Divider/Liar’s BIG “BRAIN” Rove is leaving.
Will Bush then be “completely brainless”??
Maybe Rove’s exit will be a brain lobotomy for Bush-The Decider/Divider/Liar?
Who will give our President-”Fratboy-in-Chief” his keg-party bully smirk talk?
What a “sad” day for America, NOT.
November 17th, 2006 at 7:26 pmStay or go, it doesn’t matter. The damage is done.
November 17th, 2006 at 7:31 pmRepublican nut-wingers claim to be anti-abortion and pro-life.
Well, yeah, if the life is a fetus that can’t vote and if the mom is somebody they can control via their rules & regulations.
Are Republican nut-wingers REALLY AND TRULY pro-life, when they don’t care what happens to that fetus AFTER it is born.
They’re PRO-DEATH once the “life” pop’s out of the mom’s womb and becomes a baby, a person, a teen, an adult. Republican nut-wingers
don’t care what happens to that fetus.
Hey, use that baby!!
Use that baby for WAR FODDER!! bang, bang, you’re dead!! hahahaaa…
Use that baby to work at POVERTY-LOW WAGE!!
Tough that you’re poor, baby, tough hahahaaa…cackle, cackle…
Use that baby to brainwash in “faith” by sleazy “REVERENDS” that guarantee Republican nut-winger VOTES in the next election!!!! Hahaaaaaaaaa….hooooooooo haaaaaaaa! yippieeeeeee!!!
Tough luck, baby…once you pop out of that womb.
You’re screwed! hahahaaaaaa…..
November 17th, 2006 at 7:39 pmRightwingnut Hypocrites don’t care anymore, snicker, snicker…
BDS: “So, how does this work? I want to stop this abortion/war so a lot of broken families, orphans, maimed children can have an opportunity at least to be aborted.”
No, you’re the one who wants the government to make this illegal, so YOU tell US how it works. Is there a “baby-making” camp where women who don’t want to carry a baby to term are put like a concentration camp? Do Doctors go to jail and what’s the charge? Do mothers go to jail? Who takes care of the children they already have? Once you’ve forced a woman to have a baby against her will, do you help her take care of her new baby or is she out on the street? You tell us Mr. Big government man.
November 17th, 2006 at 7:41 pmAnd, BDS, why don’t you look into what your republican representatives have been doing in the Northern Marianas. Forced sex labor and forced abortions! Evidently, for people like Tom Delay, abortions are ok if you’re forcing a woman to have one.
November 17th, 2006 at 7:43 pmKarl Rove: OUT?…
Weirdly enough, Harriet Miers is said to be involved. Well, who cares why the ex-genius is going? … I’m obligated to left-wing blogger Steve Gilliard for the photo. I think Steve and some other lefties may be surprised at how few conservatives shed …
November 17th, 2006 at 7:49 pmOh, my…
Does this mean that Turd Blossom has finally gone to seed?
November 17th, 2006 at 7:50 pmOsama Bin Laden = killed 2,800 innocent men, women and children
George W. Bush = killed 150,000 innocent men, women, and children
Who’s the bigger threat to World Peace?
November 17th, 2006 at 7:53 pmfrankly, it doesn’t matter whether he leaves or not at this point. in fact, he’ll probably cause more damage by leaving now since he’ll have more time to devote exclusively to the replubicans’ 2008 elections.
November 17th, 2006 at 7:56 pm[...] Read more Departure [...]
November 17th, 2006 at 7:59 pmNow he can persue his favorite hobby…Meat Smoking.
November 17th, 2006 at 8:00 pmKarl Rove? Leaving? Hmmm… I wonder if Mary Matalin put in a good word for James Carville.
Judging by his recent comments, he seems as well-informed and up-to-date as Rove.
November 17th, 2006 at 8:07 pmcomment 165: life is worthless
November 17th, 2006 at 8:09 pmcomment 169?: we’re getting nowhere
November 17th, 2006 at 8:11 pmIF DOES LEAVE, ROVE WILL THEN START HIS KIND WORK FOR THE 2008
CAMPAIGN AT ONE OF THE GOP INSTITUTIONS.
November 17th, 2006 at 8:14 pmBye-bye, Rover!
…and the rattlesnakes continue to devour their own worthless tails…
November 17th, 2006 at 8:26 pmWell of course. Duh!!!
Youz guyz were scooped here…
November 17th, 2006 at 8:27 pmOusted Karl Rove Takes New Job With Hugo Chavez
Nice. Bush is dismantling his own administration. Hope he does as good a job as dismantling America’s democracy.
November 17th, 2006 at 8:29 pm“A Rove ally, however, noted that he has a record of out-witting his critics.”
What is with these people who think Karl Rove is some kind of Machiavellian genius? Karl Rove is just mean. And there’s no special intellect required for mean. Mean allows him to conjure up all his dirty tricks, destroy people’s reputations, cause divisiveness amount the American people. allow the nut jobs to be in control, and on an on. Don’t people remember the bullies on their blocks and in school that made life miserable for some? Karl Rove is just a bigger, fatter, pastier version of that kid.
Stop giving him a legend he doesn’t deserve.
November 17th, 2006 at 8:34 pmQuestion for Aphrodite and others who seem to be buggered by abortion (in the slim hope that wingnuts really understand science):
Background: The following is, in theory, perfectly scientificaly feasable. Suppose you mapped the genome of a healthy male human and a healthy female human on paper. That would be about 3.3 billion combinations of the ATCG bonds each. Suppose you split and recombined the male to the female’s genome (in a random fasion, as would occure in natural combination of sperm and ovum) and created a new map on paper of an individual who would be one-time unique in all time, space and mater. And, consider it impossible to replicate, due to the random nature of it’s DNA bond selections process.
question: Now, if one copy of that new and unique genome map (the blueprint that contains all the information required to create an individual, that could be (in theory) used to manipulate an actual zygote into an exact replication as indicated in the genome map) was printed out, in it’s complete volume of approximately 3.3 billion combinations, and then thrown on a fire, would that be murder?
November 17th, 2006 at 8:57 pm[...] Courtesy of Think Progress: [...]
November 17th, 2006 at 9:15 pm[...] ThinkProgress.org (November 17, 2006) REPORT: Karl Rove May Be Leaving White House in “Weeks, Not Months†The White House Bulletin, a service of Bulletin News, reports that White House senior political adviser Karl Rove — aka “Bush’s Brain†— may soon be on his way out: The rumors that chief White House political architect Karl Rove will leave sometime next year are being bolstered with new insider reports that his partisan style is a hurdle to President Bush’s new push for bipartisanship. “Karl represents the old style and he’s got to go if the Democrats are going to believe Bush’s talk of getting along,†said a key Bush advisor. Other elements are also at play: The election yesterday of Sen. Trent Lott to the number two GOP leadership position in the Senate is also a threat to the White House and Rove, who worked against him when he battled to save his majority leader’s job after his insensitive remarks about Sen. Strom Thurmond. And insiders report that Bush counsel Harriet Miers isn’t a fan, believing that Rove didn’t do enough to help her failed Supreme Court nomination among conservatives. In fact, one top West Wing advisor said that the unexpected ouster of Rove aide Susan Ralston over ethics questions was orchestrated by Miers as a signal to Rove to leave. The advisor said that Rove is aware of the situation, and that a departure might come in “weeks, not months.†A Rove ally, however, noted that he has a record of out-witting his critics. [...]
November 17th, 2006 at 9:39 pmThis is just idle speculation, but I wonder if the reason these rumors are swirling about re: Rove’s impending desire to spend time with his family has anything to do with Jack Abramoff? Remember, Rove’s assistant, who just stepped down to spend time with her family, used to be Jack Abramoff’s assistant. Is Rove about to be snitched?
November 17th, 2006 at 9:51 pmding dong the witch is dead….
November 17th, 2006 at 9:51 pm[...] Please find the story and further links here. [...]
November 17th, 2006 at 10:19 pmKarl Rove must go out in hand cuffs!
November 17th, 2006 at 10:22 pmso long to porky pig.
November 17th, 2006 at 10:33 pmW will resist any attempt to get rid of his brain, but if this “rumor” turns out to be true, it would be as welcome if not more than Rumsfeld’s departure.
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November 17th, 2006 at 10:48 pmdoes any one else find it a little strange that political writers make all of these politicians and aides and ridiculous marketing weirdos (see rove) more cunning than any ‘bad’ guy in a james bond movie? i mean come on… these are the people, who where the ‘geeks’ and ‘nerds,’ you all picked on and made fun of in high school and college… if they were so ‘cunning’ and ‘manipulative’… why didn’t they do anyting then?
November 17th, 2006 at 11:07 pmRove has always been, and always will be, a douche-bag..uhhhh, I mean bag-man for the Bushes (GeorgeII, GeorgeI, etc.) He’s a bag of wind that needs a sharp needle.
November 17th, 2006 at 11:58 pmIs Karl Rove On The Way Out Soon?…
Just a few days ago the political world was ga-ga over a …
November 18th, 2006 at 12:01 am[...] Source: Think Progress Posted by Michael Kolanos Filed in White House [...]
November 18th, 2006 at 12:24 amBush’s idea of “Bi-partisan” is that he is partisan and they should buy him anything he wants.
November 18th, 2006 at 1:20 am#45 > No, Karl– ONE VOTE PLUS ONE VOTE DOES NOT EQUAL SIX VOTES. >
It does when Diebold is counting.
November 18th, 2006 at 2:01 amMe think’s if creepy criminal karl leaves it will be to groom Jeb or the other spawn for VP and the presidente. Bet that’s the plan to try to get more shrub’s in office…Just a thought, this bunch of cancer will not give up it need’s to be surgicly removed…Blessings
November 18th, 2006 at 2:08 am# 36 > After the continual lies and innuendo of sleazy Dems and Progs>
ahahahaha. ahhh. ahhh. you mean like:
“we know where the weapons are” – Donald “Dems the one” Rumsfeld
“we know without a doubt that saddam hussien was weapons of mass destruction”- Dick “the commie” Cheney
“if John Kerry is elected he will take away your bibles”- RNC funded flyers
“anyone responsible for this leak will be fired”- George Bush
“we had no idea the levies would break”- George Bush
“no one conceived of the possibility planes could be used as weapons”- uncle Condi Rice
im sorry, what lies were you referring to again?
November 18th, 2006 at 2:09 am>So I guess I should be tried in The Hague every time I killed zillions >jacking off. You are delusional.
>
>Comment by Juan C
>Juan, Juan you did not have to share that.
yes Juan did have to share that, hes carrying the train wreck you call a chain of logic to its ultimate absurd conclusion, much like # 173 did.
(Hooray # 173, I doubt you’ll get answer to that. We all know DNA is just, like, a trick by the devil to make us believe monkeys had butts3x with dinosaurs to make us.)
Your hipocrites, jesus would weep that you claim to follow his teachings.
That you blindly support those who kill so many living, breathing, feeling children, while weeping crocidile tears for unknowing, unthinking, unfeeling clumps of cells, is the furthest thing from being christian.
To call embryos “children” degrades what it means to be a child, of even what it means to be humans. Here are some things I think of when I think of what it means to be human:
Breathing.
Thinking.
Feeling pain.
Feeling fear.
Having emotional attachments.
Having limbs.
Having a sense of self-awareness.
These are things that make us human. Much more than just our raw physical form.
To claim a clump of cells smaller than a comma is “a child” truly degrades what i means to be human.
To equate destroying a non-sentient embryo/fetus with say, dropping a bomb that burns half a child’s body before causing her slow, painful death
As the fetus gets closer to ripening, it gets closer to resembling a child, but in my ideal world, access to abortion is so easy that late trimester abortions are almost nonexistent. I say, if someone wants to get an abortion, make sure they are able to do it as soon as possible, before the thing starts gaining any semblance of humanity.
Honestly Brain Damaged Sydrome, take those two nice, most likely healthy, most likely white babies you adopted and crawl back under the rock from which you came.
Sometimes life ISNT such a beautiful choice, and until you types are willing to accept ALL the consequences of unleashing a huge horde of unwanted children onto this world, just leave the rhetoric for your bible study circle jerks and leave the rest of us alone.
And stop being so selective about which “children” its importantant not to kill. If faced with the choice, I choose NOT to kill the child thats going to scream, twitch, and writhe around in agony on the floor before it expires.
If you think your dear lord Jesus would want to be more concerned about cells in a petri dish, or an embryo that is never self aware, well, more jesus to ya,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5P6MLiKEJI
November 18th, 2006 at 2:49 amRepublican Party wants to see abortions continue.
Without abortion as an issue, prospects for the Republican Party would be gloomy; non-existent.
Christian Democrats support all the things that will result in reducing the number of abortions by reducing the demand for abortions: family planning, teen pregnancy prevention and adoption law reform.
Many Republicans candidates apply the Pro-Life tag to themselves, and hope voters don’t look too close. Conservative Pro-Lifers also automatically assume that Democrats are the pro-abortion party. But as recent history tells us, it’s all part of The Republican Big Lie.
Repubs have profited greatly from abortions, and their party has no interest in seeing them end. Consider that the Republican Party won the 1968 presidential election by cobbling together an unlikely alliance between the Republican Party’s traditional business interests and white southerners opposed to civil rights.
The Republican Party encourages Pro-Life voters to blame the U.S. Supreme Court’s 1973 Roe v. Wade decision on Democrats. The Republican Party never points out that five of the seven justices in the majority in Roe v. Wade were Republicans; of the two justices who dissented, one was a Republican, one a Democrat.
When George Bush Jr. was campaigning for president in 2000, one of his promises was that, if elected, he would not seek to overturn Roe v. Wade. Does that sound Pro-Life?
This Republican Supreme Court that was willing to steal the election for Bush has not taken one step toward overturning Roe v. Wade. Why? because future Republican electoral interests would likely be adversely affected. Without the promise to overturn Roe v. Wade as bait, why would Christians vote for a Republican?
Why do Pro-Life voters continue to fall for the Republican Big Lie? Because Democrats have been put on the defensive. A person who supports a Democrat with a sign, a bumper sticker, or a letter to the editor will be vilified by Republican attack dogs. Anyone who points out a poor decision by a Republican lawmaker can count on a Republican attempting to justify it by using the abortion card. Suggest that a Republican candidate is unqualified by reason of inexperience or lack of leadership and the response will be immediate: “But he’s 100% Pro-Life.”
Even those in the Pro-Life camp are unable to agree on what that label means. Does it mean no exceptions for the life and health of the mother? Does it include an exception for rape or incest? How about use of birth control that may work by preventing the implantation of a fertilized egg—a zygote, not a fetus? How about non-surgical abortions? How about abortions performed to save some embryos when a woman has a multiple pregnancy because of fertility treatments?
Rarely do Republican policy makers support things that would make abortions unnecessary, like birth control. If women refused to choose, if they insisted on keeping both their lives and bodies intact, what changes would their communities have to make? What would make abortion unnecessary? Flexible school situations, more flex-time, part-time, and home-commute jobs, attractive adoption opportunities, safe family planning choices, support in handling sex responsibly: this is a partial list. A list like that is a rarity in Republican circles.
One could add a welfare system that doesn’t force a woman to choose between having a baby and keeping a job. Republican politicians are fond of talking about the “tough love” represented by their cuts to the welfare system. They forget that “tough love” often results in an abortion.
I am a Christian and will continue the effort to educate those I worship and pray they seek greater discernment regarding some who suffer mis-led christian, and expose the false and hateful teachings of a few that have hijacked chrisitianity for the sake of political gain. They are not followers of the love Christ teaches.
November 18th, 2006 at 3:36 amDon’t bother celebrating Rove’s departure. The bright little rats know the jig is up and are going to scurry into the woodwork in time to leave Bush holding the bag. This is the same thing that Rumsfeld did under Nixon. Once Nixon’s downfall was inevitable, Rumsfeld finagled himself an ambassadorship and left the country. Six Months later, once things had blown over, he came back like a bad case of crotch itch and served as Ford’s Transition Chairman and eventually as his Chief of Staff.
November 18th, 2006 at 4:22 amLeftcoast, excellent post!
On Karl Rove. IMHO the president said it all in his first press conference after the elections. He said something like “…maybe I have been working harder on the campaign trail, than he (Karl Rove) has…”
It was not so much the words that took me by surprise, than the tone of voice and the look in his eyes. Taken together with the four page “Time” article, which read to me like an obituary on Karl Rove, I suspected that he wouldn’t last much longer in his job. Maybe one can add the rumours that Abramoff has something to say to the prosecutors.
Given the President’s tendency to negate any relationship with people who have gotten themselves into trouble I do think Mr Rove’s days are numbered.
One question off topic:
Does anybody know where Condoleeza Rice has disappeared to? I have’t seen or heard a word from or about her since the elections and she was so prominently campaigning.
November 18th, 2006 at 4:45 amRove to leave in "weeks not months"?…
Think Progress is reporting (via the White House Bulletin) that Karl Rove may be leaving the Bush administration soon:
“The rumors that chief White House political architect Karl Rove will leave sometime next year are being bolstered with new insid…
November 18th, 2006 at 6:54 amDoro- thankyou.
November 18th, 2006 at 7:02 amRe: Karl; His next concentration will be on 2008. There is liitle he can offer this present White House. I imagine he will leave by January and begin working on regaining the House, but not from the WH.
Re: Condi- You’re right. She’s not in the news, but I believe she never desired the post she is in. She offered to leave the WH in 2004 saying that she felt the President needed to show a clean start. Her work as NSC chief was thwarted by Rumsfeld. Poor Steve Hadley had to pick up where she left. Hadley was better as her number two, but ineffective as Number One. I think Condi may become stronger as Sec. of State with Rumsfeld gone. He was an overarching menace within the management of all WH affairs. Cheney will still be a problem, but Jim Baker will put him in his place. Baker will be a strong behind the scenes player as an un-official player.
Too late…
…hang that al Cracker sombich…
November 18th, 2006 at 8:27 amKarl Rove , leaving the white house would be good news but the greatest news would be for him to join Mr. Abramoff in FEDERAL PRISON—after all wasn’t it Mr.Rove who said he created “REALITY” around here and the reality over here in the rest of the UNITED STATES is that you should be in FEDERAL PRISON………………..Charles Belenchia
November 18th, 2006 at 8:46 amWhere is PATRICK FITZGERALD these days??? I’ve heard he’s attending the KEN STARR SCHOOL of endless investigations and producing ZERO results. He can be reached at http://WWW.000.com in case anyone would like to give him an award in the same tradition of the PAUL BREMMER AWARD for excellence in IRAQ.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,charles belenchia
November 18th, 2006 at 8:57 amWhy isn’t he leaving the White House in minutes instead of months? Why should we taxpayers continue to pay his salary? He is not now, nor has he truly ever been, working for the benefit of the American People. He is strictly a party operative, working solely for the Republican Party. Always has been, always will be. Let them pay his salary.
November 18th, 2006 at 9:33 amKarl is going to take his marbles and go home just because he screwed up and under estimated the number of votes he needed to flip to win the election? I find that hard to believe. This pudgy bastard should be horse whipped into admission while we still have the torture laws on the books…someone arrest him and shuffle his worthless ass off to a secret camp and give him all the torture he requires. Karl Rove is a terrorist who has been terrorizing the people in the USA since 9/11.
November 18th, 2006 at 9:42 amLet the investigations begin and let them be often and for long periods of time. The rats will all be jumping into the drink and off of the ship they have been riding on. These are some really crooked bastards.
Karl Rove is a terrorist and his boss is a drunken AWOL coward who looks like a chimpanzee.
November 18th, 2006 at 9:49 amSo the American Traitor is leaving that was inevitable now can the FBI, and the Special Prosecutor move this guy to a SECRECT location water board him till he confesses, then bury this scum under the jail. Have all his contacts recorded all his meetings and telephone conversations recorded and the Patriot Act used against him oh, the TRAIL should be held by the Military Tribunal. One note on the serious side does anyone belive that the talking monkey is in charge, notice all of his major players are from his Daddies CIA staff, presidential and VP and then his own Presidential staff and now they are on the talikng monkeys staff who just so happens to be incompetent and Daddies players are in the game again.
November 18th, 2006 at 10:19 amwho wants to play nice with Bush’s bipartisan ploy anyway. put that dude in jail where he belongs. Rove and Cheney too for that matter
November 18th, 2006 at 11:46 amHowever, Rove does know a lot about where the bodies are buried. But, he’s probably been induced with enough of a golden-parachute that it doesn’t matter–he will insist on a Presidential-pardon. We have to make-sure this doesn’t happen in-time, the President must be sunk by the investigations, and they must be swift ones. We literally know enough about just a few crimes to sink-them almost immediately. Sink Bush, you sink the rest of them. The Libby trial might just do this very-thing too.
November 18th, 2006 at 12:22 pmOh, please … Rove is NOT going anywhere.
The President himself referred to Pelosi and Reid as the “Democrat leaders.” That’s a signal to the wing-nuts that the battle is on. And Reid and Pelosi are INSANE if they think otherwise.
Rove ain’t going anywhere. He may leave the White House, but I GUARANTEE that he’ll be coordinating WH policy for some time to come.
November 18th, 2006 at 12:38 pmI’m old enough to know that even though we feel good about having won, it is only a matter of time until another Rovian type raises his or her head and says “win at all costs”. Unfortunately with the state of education in the United States, a significant part of the electorate will fall for any kind of nonsense, and that enemies of true democracy will continue to assert themselves as Rove has done. We enjoy a small victory now, but we have to remember we must remain alert always.
November 18th, 2006 at 1:15 pm#200 – “He is not now, nor has he truly ever been, working for the benefit of the American People. He is strictly a party operative, working solely for the Republican Party. Always has been, always will be. Let them pay his salary.” Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
******Dear Wayne – I’m sure you said EXACTLY the same thing to Jane and your friends about the partisanship displayed by John Podesta and Leon Panetta during the time they served the American people and the Clinton Administration….. Have a Happy Thanksgiving!
November 18th, 2006 at 1:20 pmi don’t think cheney will step down. i think this is due in part because the v.p. is an elected official and cannot be appointed. therefore, the s.o.t.h., which is third in line to the presidency, would be s.o.t.h. elect nancy pelosi. the neo-fascist so-called conservatives would never allow this to happen. unless, of course, cheney were to step down during the lame duck session, and dennis hastert moved into the second spot. i doubt it, but i suppose it could happen.
November 18th, 2006 at 2:08 pmJohn Deek wrote that a child:
Breathing.
Thinking.
Feeling pain.
Feeling fear.
Having emotional attachments.
Having limbs.
Having a sense of self-awareness.
With this definition I assume you are against partioal birth abortion where a babies head is exposed and a metal rod is inserted into the babies skull and killed. That baby meets all your requirements for being a child.
November 18th, 2006 at 3:38 pmNow Bush is flip-flopping on his advisors.
November 18th, 2006 at 6:28 pmHe was for Rumsfield and Rove before he was against them.
If you want some damn good information read Against All Odds against Americas War on Terror! talks about terrorism since the Marine Corp bombing in Beirut. The high level offical quit after W came into power because of the ineptness of the Bush adminastration.
November 18th, 2006 at 6:56 pm[...] “The rumors that chief White House political architect Karl Rove will leave sometime next year are being bolstered with new insider reports that his partisan style is a hurdle to President Bush ’s new push for bipartisanship. ‘Karl represents the old style and he’s got to go if the Democrats are going to believe Bush’s talk of getting along.’”read more | digg story [...]
November 19th, 2006 at 4:51 amCould Charlie McCarthy fire Edgar Bergen?
This is not going to happen. But if it does, it’s a sign that Bush is in serious trouble, because if Rove goes, he’s going of his own free will. Bush wouldn’t dare to throw him overboard, but he might jump.
November 19th, 2006 at 5:33 am“With this definition I assume you are against partioal birth abortion where a babies head is exposed and a metal rod is inserted into the babies skull and killed. That baby meets all your requirements for being a child.
Comment by Todd — November 18, 2006 @ 3:38 pm
How ’bout this, Todd–
November 19th, 2006 at 7:16 amhow about the assertion that MEN should not be allowed to vote on this issue, EVER? Your only responsibility will be to keep it in your pants and let WOMEN worry about this issue.
Ever notice how lopsided the ratio of men to women in the Pro-Life movement? I’m sorry, I just feel that this is one of the only avenues certain types of men feel that they have left to maintain what they perceive is a “superior” position over women’s lives.
In the meantime, put your money where your mouth is and take action, one man at a time–keeping it in your pants will result in fewer abortions.
How quickly we forget that this treasonous bastard outed Valerie Plame, destroying a data network that took decades to build, because her husband told the truth about Iraq. He doesn’t outwit anybody, he does dirt like a mother f-er
November 19th, 2006 at 12:49 pmThank God! There really are thinking people, who watch the inner aspects of politics at Care2.
I am so happy that Care 2 has let me see this side.
Louise B.
November 19th, 2006 at 6:13 pmIs Rove about to go?…
Think Progress is reporting (quoting Bulletin News) that Rove may soon leave the White House:
November 20th, 2006 at 11:34 amThe rumors that chief White House political architect Karl Rove will leave……
So I guess I should be tried in The Hague every time I killed zillions jacking off. You are delusional.
Comment by Juan C
Hey Juan
November 20th, 2006 at 12:18 pmHedie Fleiss could use you at her Stud Farm in Vegas along with Mike Tyson.
You get paid for your zillons Juan C. or just get a girlfriend problem solved.
shhhh…. genius at work
November 20th, 2006 at 12:29 pmhttp://www.knoph.com/webrove/political%20genius.jpg
toast
so long porky pig!
November 22nd, 2006 at 3:34 pm“Ding Dong! The Witch is Dead!
November 23rd, 2006 at 4:40 pmWhich old witch? The ROVE Witch!
Ding Dong! The Wicked Witch is DEAD!!!!!”
[...] Earlier this month, rumors began swirling that Karl Rove may soon leave the White House, in part because he and incoming Senate Minority Whip Trent Lott (R-MS) have failed to get along. The New York Times then reported that, while Rove would be staying on, but claimed the White House was aware of Rove’s “limited influence in Congress.” [...]
November 26th, 2006 at 11:03 amPOOR OLE LIL KARL ROVE,,,,,,,,,,LOOK WHAT HIS SCUMBAG LOW LIFE METHODS HAVE BROUGHT THE WORLD,,,,,,,,USE ANY LIE TO SMEAR WHO EVER GETS IN WAY, EVEN JOHN MCCAIN DURING 1ST PRIMARY,,,,,,,REMEMBER FLA IN THE 2000 ELECTIONS, LIL OLE ROVE FLEW IN GOP STORM TROOPERS TO KEEP PEOPLE INTIMIDATED WORKING POLLS,,, HELL THE GOP HAS A TRACK RECORD OF INTIMIDATING VOTERS AT POLLS, EVEN PAID BIG FINES IN THE PAST WHEN CAUGHT DOING IT,,,,,LOOK AT THE MESS THE 3 STOOGES (AIR GUARD FLUNKIE BUSH, 5 DEFERRAL CHENEY, LIL OLE FAT ASS KARL ROVE WITH HIS DEFERRAL FROM VIET-NAM) HAVE GOT US IN IRAQ, THEY JUMP STARTED THIS WAR WITH THEIR OWN MANUFACTERED INTELLIGENCE, IGNORING THE CIA’S ADVICE NUMEROUS TIMES THAT THEY WASNT ANY THING IN IRAQ, CHENEYS NO-BID GIMME TO HALLIBURTON IN IRAQ,,,, WE JUMPED IN THIS WAR WITH WAY TOO FEW TROOPS TO KEEP THE PEACE AGAINST ADVICE OF SEVERAL MILITARY EXPERTS, HOW DID THESE FLUNKIES ACCOMPLISH THIS??????????THIS GOP HAS GOT THE WHOLE WORLD MAD AT US, MADE MORE TERRORIST, HOW DID WE LET ALL THIS CRAP INTO THE WHITE HOUSE????????BUSH HAS MADE THE WHITE HOUSE INTO A BIG OUTHOUSE, THE WHOLE WORLD IS WANTING TO TAKE A DUMP ON US,,,,,,,,,,,,BUSH GOP HAS GOT US IN A HELL OF A MESS
November 27th, 2006 at 10:39 pm[...] “The rumors that chief White House political architect Karl Rove will leave sometime next year are being bolstered with new insider reports that his partisan style is a hurdle to President Bush ’s new push for bipartisanship. ‘Karl represents the old style and he’s got to go if the Democrats are going to believe Bush’s talk of getting along.’”read more | digg story [...]
December 9th, 2006 at 10:22 pm[...] Think Progress is reporting (via the White House Bulletin) that Karl Rove may be leaving the Bush administration soon: “The rumors that chief White House political architect Karl Rove will leave sometime next year are being bolstered with new insider reports that his partisan style is a hurdle to President Bush’s new push for bipartisanship. ‘Karl represents the old style and he’s got to go if the Democrats are going to believe Bush’s talk of getting along,’ said a key Bush advisor.” [1] [...]
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