Comments on: War With Iran Would Be ‘Much More Complicated And Costly’ Than ‘Anyone Envisions’ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:44:23 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/comment-page-5/#comment-1170883 WaltTheMan Thu, 23 Nov 2006 03:55:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/#comment-1170883 I vividly learned the difference between their, they're and there in the fifth grade - thank you Mrs. Atkinson who also taught me the difference between then and than as well. To this day, it irks me that supposedly literate folk do not recognize the difference. I vividly learned the difference between their, they’re and there in the fifth grade – thank you Mrs. Atkinson who also taught me the difference between then and than as well. To this day, it irks me that supposedly literate folk do not recognize the difference.

]]> By: L.Trotsky http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/comment-page-5/#comment-1169814 L.Trotsky Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:12:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/#comment-1169814 The President has spent his politicial capital as well as a chunk of our GNP. Another war is going to get right in the middle of Mom's Social Security check. There would be much greater sacrifice, by a much greater segment of society, so before we engage in Operation Desert Skunk better make sure that the public understands what their stepping in. The President has spent his politicial capital as well as a chunk of our GNP. Another war is going to get right in the middle of Mom’s Social Security check. There would be much greater sacrifice, by a much greater segment of society, so before we engage in Operation Desert Skunk better make sure that the public understands what their stepping in.

]]> By: ItsJustKarma http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/comment-page-5/#comment-1169809 ItsJustKarma Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:11:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/#comment-1169809 Wow! That's one thread! But we will have to filter the comments from the braindead fraction out. I am sorry boys. You should go and play war in Iraq. They are looking for people I believe. Somebody earlier posted about the IIAF (The Shah's Imperial Iranian Airforce) which went down with the Shah. The info on the IIAF page is for historians and has nothing to do with the IAF of 2006. Fortunately Progressives don't burn books, therefor they are more knowledgable. So listen patiently: Nobody really knows what strenght the IAF has today. Ask the Russians and the Chinese, they might have clues. Why is it so difficult to accept the fact that Israel is a major player in this Iran-War-Game? There is no solution handy. Israel is led by a fascist administration, or let me call it ultra-right-wing if that sounds better. There are indications that Israel is killing GI Joes in Iraq, there are indications that Israelis where involved in 9/11 and there are indications that Israelis killed those guys in Lebanon. Isrealis can do whatever they deem neccessary to 'defend' their right of excistence. They have nukes. What for? Iran does not need nukes. When Busherica or Olmeria attacks Iran the outcome shall be no surprise to anybody. There have been plenty of warnings about Iraq, right? Rightwing morons love to forget that almost the whole world was against the Iraq war. Now everybody knows that Iran is not a military superpower, duh. It doesn't need to be. They are capable of retaliation in the Gulf area, where most of the US Fleet is present. They are capable of reaching Israel with their missiles. They are capable of taking out every oiltanker, oil well, refinery, or pipeline in the region. Their biggest asset is to be able to stop oil production in the ME. Oil prices are likely to go up to, let's say $350? The solution for the Middle East lies in restraining Israel, militarily and in physical expansion. As long as the US vetoes the will of the world regarding Israel, this ship is sinking. Thanks to our Jewish brothers and sisters we will all go down. It's the Jewish Republic against the Islamic Republics. So don't tell anybody that survives the upcoming nightmare You did not know. Wow! That’s one thread! But we will have to filter the comments from the braindead fraction out. I am sorry boys. You should go and play war in Iraq. They are looking for people I believe. Somebody earlier posted about the IIAF (The Shah’s Imperial Iranian Airforce) which went down with the Shah. The info on the IIAF page is for historians and has nothing to do with the IAF of 2006. Fortunately Progressives don’t burn books, therefor they are more knowledgable. So listen patiently:
Nobody really knows what strenght the IAF has today. Ask the Russians and the Chinese, they might have clues.
Why is it so difficult to accept the fact that Israel is a major player in this Iran-War-Game? There is no solution handy. Israel is led by a fascist administration, or let me call it ultra-right-wing if that sounds better. There are indications that Israel is killing GI Joes in Iraq, there are indications that Israelis where involved in 9/11 and there are indications that Israelis killed those guys in Lebanon. Isrealis can do whatever they deem neccessary to ‘defend’ their right of excistence. They have nukes. What for?
Iran does not need nukes. When Busherica or Olmeria attacks Iran the outcome shall be no surprise to anybody. There have been plenty of warnings about Iraq, right? Rightwing morons love to forget that almost the whole world was against the Iraq war. Now everybody knows that Iran is not a military superpower, duh. It doesn’t need to be. They are capable of retaliation in the Gulf area, where most of the US Fleet is present. They are capable of reaching Israel with their missiles. They are capable of taking out every oiltanker, oil well, refinery, or pipeline in the region. Their biggest asset is to be able to stop oil production in the ME. Oil prices are likely to go up to, let’s say $350?
The solution for the Middle East lies in restraining Israel, militarily and in physical expansion. As long as the US vetoes the will of the world regarding Israel, this ship is sinking. Thanks to our Jewish brothers and sisters we will all go down. It’s the Jewish Republic against the Islamic Republics. So don’t tell anybody that survives the upcoming nightmare You did not know.

]]> By: J293 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/comment-page-5/#comment-1167015 J293 Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:01:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/#comment-1167015 Cheney, as CEO of Halliburton in 1990s sold nuke parts to Iran. Likewise Rumsfeld was a Director of a co. who sold nuke parts to Korea. These guys make money from selling WMD, invading countries, and then rebuilding. What a racket!. Cheney, as CEO of Halliburton in 1990s sold nuke parts to Iran.
Likewise Rumsfeld was a Director of a co. who sold nuke parts to Korea.

These guys make money from selling WMD, invading countries, and then rebuilding.

What a racket!.

]]> By: wolfgang p may http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/comment-page-5/#comment-1166708 wolfgang p may Wed, 22 Nov 2006 04:02:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/#comment-1166708 I can certainly understand why a president who was condemned to fly national guard planes around Texas, while I had the good fortune to fight hardcore Vietcong, and walk through minefields in the "Iron Triangle" of Vietnam, searching for American soldiers, and finding only their scalps nailed to a tree, must feel that he should give other soldiers an opportunity to enjoy the pleasures of combat, which were denied to him by an overly protective dad. May our president finally get the reward that he so richly deserves: No, not death, but a personal awakening to the destruction of our great nation, which he and his henchmen have caused, and the many lives which he has squandered in the process. During many hours of combat, while killing children to save the men of my advisory team, I realized again, as General Sherman did many years ago, that war is hell, and that is where our current president will certainly end up, unless he confesses his many sins, and humbly asks our eternal God for forgiveness. I can certainly understand why a president who was condemned to fly national guard planes around Texas, while I had the good fortune to fight hardcore Vietcong, and walk through minefields in the “Iron Triangle” of Vietnam, searching for American soldiers, and finding only their scalps nailed to a tree, must feel that he should give other soldiers an opportunity to enjoy the pleasures of combat, which were denied to him by an overly protective dad.

May our president finally get the reward that he so richly deserves: No, not death, but a personal awakening to the destruction of our great nation, which he and his henchmen have caused, and the many lives which he has squandered in the process.

During many hours of combat, while killing children to save the men of my advisory team, I realized again, as General Sherman did many years ago, that war is hell, and that is where our current president will certainly end up, unless he confesses his many sins, and humbly asks our eternal God for forgiveness.

]]> By: Neutral http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/comment-page-5/#comment-1164888 Neutral Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:32:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/#comment-1164888 Nuclear programme is just a pretext. It is The Necon agenda to weaken every middle east country that will ultimately be carried out. USA is totally in the grip of neocons and the american media is firmly in the grip of the neocons. These necons control both parties by their massive money power and their grip on Washington and media punditocracy. How dangerous it is that a small band of these necons are able to control every single important institution of this country. Nuclear programme is just a pretext. It is The Necon agenda to weaken every middle east country that will ultimately be carried out. USA is totally in the grip of neocons and the american media is firmly in the grip of the neocons. These necons control both parties by their massive money power and their grip on Washington and media punditocracy.
How dangerous it is that a small band of these necons are able to control every single important institution of this country.

]]> By: Dameon http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/comment-page-5/#comment-1164738 Dameon Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:07:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/#comment-1164738 Erm...yes air strikes would work at hindering WMD. Are you forgetting the aspects of bombing them? Thats like saying im going to prevent the bee's nest from making honey by standing 3 feet from it throwing rocks. Do you want to get stung by thousands of bees? You bomb Iran, their entire nation goes into war mode, they dont sit back and go "Oh...well now that we've been bombed by the all mighty god backed America maybe we wont make big bombs any more. Gee all we needed was to get a few MOABs up our ass and it makes so much sense!" Unfortunetley countries like Iraq and Iran, Vietnam even dont give a rats ass about how many bombs you drop on them or how much you sware at them. Back to the bee's nest theory, you want to throw rocks at bee's nests? Be ready to either run, or throw a heck of a lot more rocks and be sure not to run into the other bee's nest you pissed off (Iraq.) Erm…yes air strikes would work at hindering WMD. Are you forgetting the aspects of bombing them? Thats like saying im going to prevent the bee’s nest from making honey by standing 3 feet from it throwing rocks. Do you want to get stung by thousands of bees? You bomb Iran, their entire nation goes into war mode, they dont sit back and go “Oh…well now that we’ve been bombed by the all mighty god backed America maybe we wont make big bombs any more. Gee all we needed was to get a few MOABs up our ass and it makes so much sense!” Unfortunetley countries like Iraq and Iran, Vietnam even dont give a rats ass about how many bombs you drop on them or how much you sware at them. Back to the bee’s nest theory, you want to throw rocks at bee’s nests? Be ready to either run, or throw a heck of a lot more rocks and be sure not to run into the other bee’s nest you pissed off (Iraq.)

]]> By: STruC http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/comment-page-5/#comment-1164681 STruC Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:00:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/#comment-1164681 WAR = DEATH Regardless of what anyone thinks, the world will lose millions of lives if another war was to take place. Think about it, Iraq with no military = 650,000 lives lost Think about it, Iran with yes military = millions dead WHAT GOOD DOES WAR DO... be peace on us, be peace on U.S. , be peace on Iran, be peace on Israel ... be peace on EARTH! WAR = DEATH

Regardless of what anyone thinks, the world will lose millions of lives if another war was to take place.
Think about it, Iraq with no military = 650,000 lives lost
Think about it, Iran with yes military = millions dead

WHAT GOOD DOES WAR DO…

be peace on us, be peace on U.S. , be peace on Iran, be peace on Israel … be peace on EARTH!

]]> By: Pre-emptive Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/comment-page-5/#comment-1164471 Pre-emptive Jesus Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:32:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/#comment-1164471 Jigga's on his mom's computer livin in the basement with a wife-beater on waitin' for momma to fix him that turkey pot pie. He only served in the trailer park if you know what I mean. Jigga’s on his mom’s computer livin in the basement with a wife-beater on waitin’ for momma to fix him that turkey pot pie. He only served in the trailer park if you know what I mean.

]]> By: mighty aphrodite http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/comment-page-5/#comment-1163702 mighty aphrodite Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:00:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/#comment-1163702 #120 - "Sometimes, someone wins a point and is so overwhelmingly convincing, that it is indeed impressive to behold. Well done, Mighty Aphrodite. And AGAIN, I respectfully suggest that Juan meet and speak with Cuban refugees who have fled Castro’s totalitarian Cuba and listen to their witness accounts of Castro’s brutal and tortorous regime and its murderous ways." Comment by Exley *******Sir Exley - Thank you....Have you noticed (for the most part) the vocal proponents of communism don't actually WANT to live in such a managed society THEMSELVES.....hypocrites. (Is it me, or have you noticed Juan is not very capable of actully ANSWERING simple questions....) Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours! #120 – “Sometimes, someone wins a point and is so overwhelmingly convincing, that it is indeed impressive to behold.
Well done, Mighty Aphrodite.
And AGAIN, I respectfully suggest that Juan meet and speak with Cuban refugees who have fled Castro’s totalitarian Cuba and listen to their witness accounts of Castro’s brutal and tortorous regime and its murderous ways.” Comment by Exley

*******Sir Exley – Thank you….Have you noticed (for the most part) the vocal proponents of communism don’t actually WANT to live in such a managed society THEMSELVES…..hypocrites. (Is it me, or have you noticed Juan is not very capable of actully ANSWERING simple questions….)

Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!

]]> By: Jay Randal http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/comment-page-5/#comment-1162279 Jay Randal Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:17:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/#comment-1162279 I-R-I on here used the term "Leftards" so is Jigga one and the same? I-R-I on here used the term “Leftards” so is Jigga one and the same?

]]> By: Jigga http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/comment-page-5/#comment-1162268 Jigga Tue, 21 Nov 2006 06:53:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/#comment-1162268 Hey bFoolish, I get 1st class pussy while you get leftovers you fool! Hey bFoolish,
I get 1st class pussy while you get leftovers you fool!

]]> By: Jigga http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/comment-page-5/#comment-1162265 Jigga Tue, 21 Nov 2006 06:51:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/#comment-1162265 Het BAliar, You don't read posts before you come in in a blaze of glory. You must feel like a fool attacking atheist. Ha you clown you pathetic Leftard. Het BAliar,
You don’t read posts before you come in in a blaze of glory. You must feel like a fool attacking atheist. Ha you clown you pathetic Leftard.

]]> By: Jigga http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/comment-page-5/#comment-1162261 Jigga Tue, 21 Nov 2006 06:47:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/#comment-1162261 JParek, You couldn't tuch me. besides I could wipre you off the planet if I wanted too. Might makes Right! JParek,
You couldn’t tuch me. besides I could wipre you off the planet if I wanted too. Might makes Right!

]]> By: Exley http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/comment-page-5/#comment-1162254 Exley Tue, 21 Nov 2006 06:44:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/#comment-1162254 JPark, Ortega and the Sandinistas reached out to and allied themselves with the USSR, Eastern Bloc, and Cuba, before Reagan was even elected, despite the fact the U.S.A. under the Carter administration was providing the new Sandinista government with economic and humanitarian aid. The Sandinistas Marxism preceded the Reagan administration. JPark, Ortega and the Sandinistas reached out to and allied themselves with the USSR, Eastern Bloc, and Cuba, before Reagan was even elected, despite the fact the U.S.A. under the Carter administration was providing the new Sandinista government with economic and humanitarian aid. The Sandinistas Marxism preceded the Reagan administration.

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/comment-page-5/#comment-1162241 JPark Tue, 21 Nov 2006 06:42:39 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/#comment-1162241 I could buy and sell you in a heartbeat, whether you were black, yellow, red or white. But I am a liberal so I wouldn't. Enjoy your night and enjoy your misplaced bitterness. Good night. I could buy and sell you in a heartbeat, whether you were black, yellow, red or white. But I am a liberal so I wouldn’t. Enjoy your night and enjoy your misplaced bitterness. Good night.

]]> By: Jigga http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/comment-page-5/#comment-1162229 Jigga Tue, 21 Nov 2006 06:41:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/#comment-1162229 I don't pay a mortgage like you do. I own my property. Either way your just the typical hypocritical Leftists. A rich person that wants to keep everone else down! I don’t pay a mortgage like you do. I own my property. Either way your just the typical hypocritical Leftists. A rich person that wants to keep everone else down!

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/comment-page-5/#comment-1162224 JPark Tue, 21 Nov 2006 06:40:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/#comment-1162224 You moron. Steele made up the Oreo thing to play the race card, just like you do every day. Loser. You moron. Steele made up the Oreo thing to play the race card, just like you do every day. Loser.

]]> By: Jigga http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/comment-page-5/#comment-1162220 Jigga Tue, 21 Nov 2006 06:39:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/#comment-1162220 JPark, Oen me please. If you like I don't pat Mortgage you do loser! JPark,
Oen me please. If you like I don’t pat Mortgage you do loser!

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/comment-page-5/#comment-1162219 JPark Tue, 21 Nov 2006 06:39:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/20/iran-war-costly/#comment-1162219 I don't label you anything except for a low-life scumbag with no brains. I don’t label you anything except for a low-life scumbag with no brains.

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