Comments on: Hagel: ‘The Time For More Troops Is Past,’ McCain’s Plan Is ‘Not Realistic,’ ‘The Wrong Approach’ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:59:56 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Eric http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/comment-page-2/#comment-4853310 Eric Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:00:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/#comment-4853310 <strong>Eric</strong> Good Luck.. Eric

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]]> By: Chuck Hagel - Should the U.S. deploy more troops to Iraq? http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/comment-page-2/#comment-4697782 Chuck Hagel - Should the U.S. deploy more troops to Iraq? Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:55:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/#comment-4697782 [...] Approach Posted on 11/21/2006 9:02 PM by brianrApprove (6) | Reject (0) | My vote: None  MSNBC Transcript... MITCHELL: Let’s talk a bit about some of the plans that the Pentagon is supposedly [...] [...] Approach Posted on 11/21/2006 9:02 PM by brianrApprove (6) | Reject (0) | My vote: None  MSNBC Transcript… MITCHELL: Let’s talk a bit about some of the plans that the Pentagon is supposedly [...]

]]> By: Ames Tiedeman http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/comment-page-2/#comment-1178295 Ames Tiedeman Fri, 24 Nov 2006 20:14:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/#comment-1178295 20,000 more troops will not solve this problem! We will just lose more men. This war is not a winable war. Anyone who thinks it is winable is a fool. We are not fighting an army. There are no front lines, or left flanks or right flanks. You cannot fight an enemy like this unless you simply decide to wipe the whole place out. You cannot differentiate who is friend or foe. We have no options that will equal victory. This is a fact. I have come to accept this. It does not matter how may troops we have, can send, or should have sent in the beginning. Only a strong man can run a country like Iraq. Democracy will not work in Iraq. What would I do if I were President? I would give a rah rah speech and make the American people feel somewhat better than they do now and then declare victory and get the hell out. Unfortunatley we do not have a President who can articulate the english language well enought to pull this off. Regards, Ames Tiedeman 20,000 more troops will not solve this problem!
We will just lose more men. This war is not a winable war. Anyone who thinks it is winable is a fool. We are not fighting an army. There are no front lines, or left flanks or right flanks. You cannot fight an enemy like this unless you simply decide to wipe the whole place out. You cannot differentiate who is friend or foe. We have no options that will equal victory. This is a fact. I have come to accept this. It does not matter how may troops we have, can send, or should have sent in the beginning. Only a strong man can run a country like Iraq. Democracy will not work in Iraq.

What would I do if I were President? I would give a rah rah speech and make the American people feel somewhat better than they do now and then declare victory and get the hell out. Unfortunatley we do not have a President who can articulate the english language well enought to pull this off.

Regards,
Ames Tiedeman

]]> By: Lute http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/comment-page-2/#comment-1173803 Lute Thu, 23 Nov 2006 16:57:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/#comment-1173803 <em>If we Cut & Run, they will follow to the United States of America. When Iran gets its Atom Bomb and a 200 mile Missile, it can sit offshore and kill 70% of the population. Iraq needs to be cleaned up with a Bagdad Cordon, a progressive House to House Search, Confiscating all firearms, explosives and other contraband. Install a Dusk to Dawn Curfew, Road Blocks, Check Points and shoot anyone out at night or who won’t answer the door. The troops should answer with knocking down the door and grenades. There must be Victory in Iraq or you all can kiss your life good bye.</em> lol. Sadly, if you know anything at all about American history (and not just the bunk that's taught in grade school), this is a surprisingly realistic account of American "democracy." If we Cut & Run, they will follow to the United States of America.
When Iran gets its Atom Bomb and a 200 mile Missile, it can sit offshore and kill 70% of the population.

Iraq needs to be cleaned up with a Bagdad Cordon, a progressive House to House Search, Confiscating all firearms, explosives and other contraband.

Install a Dusk to Dawn Curfew, Road Blocks, Check Points and shoot anyone out at night or who won’t answer the door.

The troops should answer with knocking down the door and grenades.

There must be Victory in Iraq or you all can kiss your life good bye.

lol. Sadly, if you know anything at all about American history (and not just the bunk that’s taught in grade school), this is a surprisingly realistic account of American “democracy.”

]]> By: james http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/comment-page-2/#comment-1173532 james Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:04:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/#comment-1173532 Get out of Iraq. Invade iIsrael, the real enemy. Get out of Iraq. Invade iIsrael, the real enemy.

]]> By: john http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/comment-page-2/#comment-1173322 john Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:25:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/#comment-1173322 I don't think the u.s. have any intentions of leaving Iraq. They went there for the oil and to have another permanent base in the mid east. They will eventually withdraw some troops, but have a large permanent base there. I don’t think the u.s. have any intentions of leaving Iraq. They went there for the oil and to have another permanent base in the mid east. They will eventually withdraw some troops, but have a large permanent base there.

]]> By: John in Seattle http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/comment-page-2/#comment-1169236 John in Seattle Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:31:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/#comment-1169236 <em>We’ve been in Iraq now almost four years. We went in completely undermanned, under-managed. We didn’t understand what we were getting into. We didn’t have the plans. We should have gone in with three times the troops that we had.</em> [Mr. Rogers voice] Can you say 'Shinseki'? Sure, I knew could... [/Mr. Rogers voice] We’ve been in Iraq now almost four years. We went in completely undermanned, under-managed. We didn’t understand what we were getting into. We didn’t have the plans. We should have gone in with three times the troops that we had.

[Mr. Rogers voice]
Can you say ‘Shinseki’? Sure, I knew could…
[/Mr. Rogers voice]

]]> By: Eric http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/comment-page-2/#comment-1169187 Eric Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:23:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/#comment-1169187 Yes, yes, yes, I agree whole heartedly with Sen. Hagel. Yes, yes, yes, I agree whole heartedly with Sen. Hagel.

]]> By: Perry Glickman http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/comment-page-2/#comment-1168585 Perry Glickman Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:48:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/#comment-1168585 Face it, it's over. Bush f*cked it up and it's over. Those who are making a buck on it would like to spend some more taxpayer money but don't really care if it results in victory. So it will go on for a while but we can't win it now. Face it, it’s over. Bush f*cked it up and it’s over. Those who are making a buck on it would like to spend some more taxpayer money but don’t really care if it results in victory. So it will go on for a while but we can’t win it now.

]]> By: Dave http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-1168487 Dave Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:00:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/#comment-1168487 Only the dead have seen the end of war. -Plato Only the dead have seen the end of war. -Plato

]]> By: Peter Cville http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-1168476 Peter Cville Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:55:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/#comment-1168476 Chuck has it nailed and he's almost politically correct about it! I appreciate his speaking out as a Republican 'cause my major problem with Rs is that there always "on message". "On Message" means they take their cues from the top (Cheney). It's whatever C thinks today (sometimes Rove). Good for Hagel. He's showing courage, intelligence, and leadership... Something sorely missing from the current Cheney nightmare. I can't wait till Cheney's administration finally leaves in '08. Chuck has it nailed and he’s almost politically correct about it! I appreciate his speaking out as a Republican ’cause my major problem with Rs is that there always “on message”. “On Message” means they take their cues from the top (Cheney). It’s whatever C thinks today (sometimes Rove).

Good for Hagel. He’s showing courage, intelligence, and leadership… Something sorely missing from the current Cheney nightmare.

I can’t wait till Cheney’s administration finally leaves in ‘08.

]]> By: Tom http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-1168327 Tom Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:57:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/#comment-1168327 I didn't see the "interview" with Chuck Hagel (RINO, France), but I am certain that dingbat Andrea Mitchell had multiple orgasms over Hagel's "wisdom". I didn’t see the “interview” with Chuck Hagel (RINO, France), but I am certain that dingbat Andrea Mitchell had multiple orgasms over Hagel’s “wisdom”.

]]> By: Richard Wheeler http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-1168316 Richard Wheeler Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:54:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/#comment-1168316 If we Cut & Run, they will follow to the United States of America. When Iran gets its Atom Bomb and a 200 mile Missile, it can sit offshore and kill 70% of the population. Iraq needs to be cleaned up with a Bagdad Cordon, a progressive House to House Search, Confiscating all firearms, explosives and other contraband. Install a Dusk to Dawn Curfew, Road Blocks, Check Points and shoot anyone out at night or who won't answer the door. The troops should answer with knocking down the door and grenades. There must be Victory in Iraq or you all can kiss your life good bye.<strong></strong> If we Cut & Run, they will follow to the United States of America.
When Iran gets its Atom Bomb and a 200 mile Missile, it can sit offshore and kill 70% of the population.

Iraq needs to be cleaned up with a Bagdad Cordon, a progressive House to House Search, Confiscating all firearms, explosives and other contraband.

Install a Dusk to Dawn Curfew, Road Blocks, Check Points and shoot anyone out at night or who won’t answer the door.

The troops should answer with knocking down the door and grenades.

There must be Victory in Iraq or you all can kiss your life good bye.

]]> By: Link Extravaganza! « The Lady Speaks http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-1168287 Link Extravaganza! « The Lady Speaks Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:40:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/#comment-1168287 [...] Sen. Chuck Rangel (R-NE) - a conservative, no less - says McCain’s plan to send more troops to Iraq is ‘not realistic’. ThinkProgress has video and a transcript of Andrea Mitchell’s interview. [...] [...] Sen. Chuck Rangel (R-NE) – a conservative, no less – says McCain’s plan to send more troops to Iraq is ‘not realistic’. ThinkProgress has video and a transcript of Andrea Mitchell’s interview. [...]

]]> By: chigeeng http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-1168284 chigeeng Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:40:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/#comment-1168284 # I quote David Bowie, “Putting out fire, with gasoline.” Comment by Xenon — November 21, 2006 @ 3:32 pm In hind sight it looks like Neil Young exhibited remarkable prescience when he described the newly elected Bush and his administration as the "baby with a bomb." #

I quote David Bowie, “Putting out fire, with gasoline.”

Comment by Xenon — November 21, 2006 @ 3:32 pm

In hind sight it looks like Neil Young exhibited remarkable prescience when he described the newly elected Bush and his administration as the “baby with a bomb.”

]]> By: JoeC http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-1168275 JoeC Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:38:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/#comment-1168275 Despite everybody saying what a disaster Iraq is (and it IS a disaster) the neocons secretly consider it a success, because they met their number one priority: they have 4 permanent superbases in another foreign country. Look at history....are we still in Japan? Korea? Vietnam? Kosovo? Yep...and we'll be in Iraq long after the MSM tells us "troops come home!" http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/11/20/iraq-were-here-to-stay/ Despite everybody saying what a disaster Iraq is (and it IS a disaster) the neocons secretly consider it a success, because they met their number one priority: they have 4 permanent superbases in another foreign country.

Look at history….are we still in Japan? Korea? Vietnam? Kosovo? Yep…and we’ll be in Iraq long after the MSM tells us “troops come home!”

http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/11/20/iraq-were-here-to-stay/

]]> By: KC Collier http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-1168221 KC Collier Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:15:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/#comment-1168221 <em>Hagel is a duplicitous fool who only makes timed comments intended to gain publicity for his presidential ambitions. He's far from the heroic man of his youth.</em> Hagel is a duplicitous fool who only makes timed comments intended to gain publicity for his presidential ambitions. He’s far from the heroic man of his youth.

]]> By: hamburgler http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-1168202 hamburgler Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:02:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/#comment-1168202 THE US AMRY IS A SACRIFICIAL LAMB TO ZIONIST ISRAEL ! THE US AMRY IS A SACRIFICIAL LAMB TO ZIONIST ISRAEL !

]]> By: doris lacy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-1168090 doris lacy Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:12:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/21/hagel-troops/#comment-1168090 It is scary when the prime minister of Israel states that they will attack and bomb Iran, but America would have to finish the job and clean up. We can't let any country, including Israel, make a determination of when we go to war! It is scary when the prime minister of Israel states that they will attack
and bomb Iran, but America would have to finish the job and clean up.
We can’t let any country, including Israel, make a determination of when
we go to war!

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