I’m from MN.
The event he was talking about had some interesting aftermath.
6 Imams were seen praying prior to boarding a flight out of Mpls.
When they boarded, some paranoid passenger passed a note to the Stewardess, who passed it to the pilots, who refused to fly the plane.
These gentlemen were handcuffed & Q&A’d for 3 hours, even thought they had passed TSA checkpoints. Aren’t we a little paranoid, America?
Keith was the guy who Glenn Beckshit’s first question was something like ‘how do I know you’re not a terrorist?’
Coexistence.
Without it, we cannot move forward in the 21st Century.
Without it, we all die or lose loved ones over religous wars.
Let’s get started, America.
We became great by inclusiveness. It’s the only answer.
Zimzone, I’m aware of the incident. I just don’t feel that repeating it elsewhere does anyone any good. It was a deliberate jab at someone who didn’t deserve it, completely unprofessional, and furthers the sick worldview that all browns are out to kill whitey in some way.
I believe Nathan was referring to the interview of Ellison by CNN’s Beck who flat out asked him to prove that he wasnt a terrorist or aiding our enemies- but insisted he wasnt questioning his loyalty.
This is where we are in the US in the 21st century: if you’re not a white christian or a republican in general, you must prove your loyalty to the US, and, without ‘questioning your loyalty’, you’ll just be assumed a terrorist until you prove otherwise.
Ronin,
I respectfully disagree.
What’s unecessary is the original statment about terrorism.
Unless you were talking about the airport incident.
If so, I’m not sure what to make of your comment.
“I’m aware of the incident with Glen Beck. I just don’t feel that repeating the comment in conjunction with any appearance of Ellison does anyone any good. Beck’s comment was a deliberate jab at someone who didn’t deserve it, completely unprofessional to do as an interviewer, and furthers the sick conservative worldview that all browns are out to kill whitey in some way.
I don’t get your logic, Ronin. I think that the Glenn Beck incident should be repeated again and again until everyone has heard about it. It is part of a systematic attempt to smear Ellison, and it is being done with overtly racist intent. It should be called out again and again until the cockroaches scurry away from the light.
Comment by Zimzone — November 22, 2006 @ 2:23 pm
This country has turned into a bunch of bedwetters. I read in the news that the Imams were questioned for five hours, not three hours, and they were handcuffed to boot. The incident was driven by racism, nothing else. I will not fly US Airways again.
I won’t be flying US Airways again, either. And, if I ever encounter some sniveling little paranoid racist like the one that passed the note to the flight attendant while I’m flying on some other airline, I might just ask to have them removed. It’s not safe to have someone on the plane who’s motivated by irrational fears. You just don’t know what they’re capable of.
Or, should I be afraid of someone I see praying in the terminal if that person belongs to a different religion than I do (i.e. any religion)?
RealScientist, and then what? America is suffering from what has been coined scandal burnout. Making this a scandal won’t make people sit up and notice. They will just shrugh their shoulders and move on. Yes, I was outraged about it, but ultimately Glen Beck is a small cog in a bigger system. After months of protests and outrage, we get him fired, let’s say. There’s legions of others that have done worse and legions ready to take Glen Beck’s place for the right price.
Getting outraged at everything is the progressive movement’s biggest weakness. It could be big enough to tackle everything, but it isn’t yet. A focus is required to take out the big offenders, and the support structure underneath it will cease to have relevance. Standards tactics, really.
Look, what Beck said was shitty, yes. I didn’t see anything constructive in repeating it. The people that care know about it, since they are active seekers of corruption and turth. The rest don’t read sites like this and don’t care. If we repeat this everytime Ellison shows his face, then the only people who will pay any attention to it are the people who would then ask themselves ‘yes, he SHOULD prove he’s not a terrorist’, hence furthering the twisted worldview that statement represents.
You do yourself and the progressive movement a disservice by repeating it, but that’s my opinion.
Thank you, RealScientist.
Pretending that what was said wasn’t is just what Neosluts count on.
Enough, already.
Glen Beck must be using drugs again.
Maybe he’s getting them from Rush?
Terrorist, indeed.
Coexistence.
Inclusiveness.
Magic words, America.
I didn’t fight for the USA to let chickenshithawks pretend they’re better than the people showering after work, but never served.
I’ll know what to do with a terrorist if & when I encounter one.
So far, the only ones I see are on Fox News & CSpan.
I read somewhere that whomever ratted on them said that they were expressing “Anti-American” sentiments. Maybe like, “damn, stale peanuts again!”
It reminded me of the incident where two Middle Eastern students on their way to Miami to return to school were turned in by someone at a Waffle House for bitching about their college and the FBI chased them down the highway.
I think both stories bear repeating often for they sybolise the fear and distrust our nation has developed and to me they symbolise the right wing in a nutshell. They are little more than fear peddling take what I can get for me politicians and they sell it to their base continually 24/7/7
Before passengers boarded, one became alarmed by an overheard discussion. “They seemed angry,” he wrote in a police statement. “Mentioned ‘U.S.’ and ‘killing Saddam.’ Two men then swore slightly under their breath/mumbled. They spoke Arabic again. The gate called boarding for the flight. The men then chanted ‘Allah, Allah, Allah.’ ”
Marwan Sadeddin, another of the imams, said, “What bothers me the most is these false statements and lies that we were shouting, ‘Allah, Allah.’ This never happened.”
Another, Ahmad Shqeirat, said, “That is a lie. We were not talking politics. And even if we did, so what? What is suspicious about that?”
Once the six were seated, two in front, two in the middle and two in back, and paid visits to each other to chat, some passengers became alarmed, the police report said. One passed a note to a flight attendant citing the alleged comments about Allah and Saddam.
Flight attendants alerted the pilot, who called airport police and asked them to remove the men from the plane. They left “cooperatively,” according to the police report.
- Minneapolis Star Tribune 11/22/06
Remember when asking such a question on the air would have lost you all credibility, and maybe even your show? Now ignorant racism is just “strong opinion.”
And this is the guy of whom Glen Beck demanded that he prove his patriotism. Beck is the one who should be questioned: Prove to me that you have a functioning brain, Mr. Beck. Prove to me why you have a TV show on CNN.
Minesota I am proud of you for electing this man to Congress. He sounds intelligent, articulate, and has the integrity to run this great country. I wish Keith the best and I am hoping to see him for more than one term.
Here’s the thing about Glen Beck: you only hear his name when he has said something outrageously stupid and/or offensive. And he’s on CNN, so his target audience doesn’t even watch him because he’s not on FOX (for that matter, why does ANYONE watch CNN anymore? Seems to me that they’re too liberal for the red state crowd and too much a corporate whorefest for liberals).
Seriously, the only people I’ve ever heard quoting Glen Beck are outraged progressives. If we ignore him he becomes a non-entity.
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Seriously, the only people I’ve ever heard quoting Glen Beck are outraged progressives. If we ignore him he becomes a non-entity.
Comment by Jeremy Henderson
You make a good point.
Most people, when ignored, just go away — in the case of some obnoxious show hosts, however, they often become louder and more outrageous, thinking that we might have missed them the first time.
So, if we ignore Beck – as we should – I am not so sure that he’d go away.
Ellison, the first Muslim to ever be elected to Congress, skipped the private reception at the White House in order to attend a reception organized by the American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations.
“I went to the AFL-CIO reception, because I wanted to meet and greet leaders of labor, and get to know them,” explained Ellison, who won an intense Democratic primary and then the general election with strong union backing. “Those are the people who I came here to support.” Was it hard to give up a chance to rub elbows with the president and vice president?
“We are being led by a president who believes he has a right to send us to war based on a lie, that it’s O.K. to torture prisoners and to spy on Americans. His administration has given sweetheart deals and no-bid contracts to private companies and then looked the other way when those profiteers cannot account for hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars,” Ellison said during the campaign. And, yet, where is the outrage? Where are the leaders who are willing to stand up and demand accountability?”
“I’m running for Congress because there has been a wholesale abdication of responsibility by our political leaders,” Ellison continued. “When I get to Washington, I will demand complete responsibility from this administration.”
Come to think of it, Bush, Cheney and Rove were probably just as happy that Ellison didn’t have time to come to the White House last week.
[...] Right-wing radio host Dennis Prager wrote a column earlier this week claiming that Rep.-elect Keith Ellison (D-MN), the first Muslim elected to Congress, had “announced that he will not take his oath of office on the Bible, but on the bible of Islam, the Koran.” Prager claimed this “act undermines American civilization,” and compared it to being sworn in with a copy of Hitler’s “Mein Kampf.” [...]
[...] Right-wing radio host Dennis Prager wrote a column earlier this week claiming that Rep.-elect Keith Ellison (D-MN), the first Muslim elected to Congress, had “announced that he will not take his oath of office on the Bible, but on the bible of Islam, the Koran.†Prager claimed this “act undermines American civilization,†and compared it to being sworn in with a copy of Hitler’s “Mein Kampf.†[...]
Who cares if he happens to believe in Islam, is African-American,etc.
THe botom line is that his believes that ARE relevant ARE scarey.
- He’s a big spender
- He’s anti-business
- He’s weak on security
- He won’t defend America’s borders
I don’t give a flying F of his religion or skin color – he’s elected to balance the budget, protect the borders and keep American safe from outside threats. His policies are contradictory to all these goals.
First of all, let me congratulate you on your election to the United States House of Representatives. As someone born and raised in Minnesota (Montevideo) and ordained as a Lutheran clergyman, I take great pride in knowing that Minnesota again is leading the way in making positive change in this nation. While I am also sure that you did not seek election primarily to make a statement as a Muslim person, I am glad it will have some of that effect.
The debate about where you will place your hand during the oath of office — on the Bible or the Koran– makes me embarrassed. It seems to me that the Founding Fathers of our country chose a book, by custom at the time, that was revered by the person swearing to the Oath. If you take the crazy arguments of the ultra-right to their extreme, they would rather have you swear on the “Sears Catalogue”… if it were tradition, than placing your hand on a book that is personally meaningful and revered by you. This is demagoguery. It also betrays an intolerance I find personally, as a Christian and an American, highly offensive.
Perhaps you could place a Koran atop a Bible so that you will place your hand directly on the Koran (which I assume you will find most meaningful), but the zealots will be content knowing that the Bible was somehow (even if tangentially) involved.
Again, this whole business makes me embarrassed to be an American, since I find the entire process filled with political hyperoble and totally lacking in common sense. I think you would be absolutely right to just use a Koran.
My best to you as you wrestle with this example of intolerance. Again, I wish you the best in your new position in public life. You make a former Minnesotan proud!
The people of Minnesota have lost their minds!! I can not believe how ignorant they are to elect a man that is apart of the group “Nations of Islam” which is basically a group that HATES white christians! I’M SURE HE WANTS TO KEEP THIS QUIET THOUGH.
I thought it would be good for you to read what I have sent my Pennsylvania state representatives in reference to your ridiculous statement that you should be sworn into office using the Koran:
I can’t believe they are even considering this. We are a nation built on Christianity – that means the Bible. We are not a Muslim nation. We are a Christian nation. If he wants to get sworn into office with the Koran – than tell him loud and clear to go back to the native country of his ancestors. I’m sure the constituents that put him in office did not know he had his own political agenda in mind. This is ridiculous.
I ask that you introduce and help get passed a law making the Bible the book to be used in swearing in Representatives, Senators, the President and Vice-President and other public officials.
Thank you for your time. I look forward to hearing from you on this matter of importance to me and my family.
Australasian Police Multicultural Advisory Bureau has several publications for Australia dealing with multi-faith issues and A Practical Reference to Religious Diversity for Operational Police and Emergency Services covers oaths, Death, Gender Roles and Family, Physical Contact and sensitivities (like giving blood samples), Religious Practices and Policing and other topics covering twelve faith-traditions, (in review as of 12/2/2006 but the 2nd Edition is available. I think this kind of thing should be done here.
To those who are making comments like “We are a nation built on Christianity – that means the Bible. We are not a Muslim nation. We are a Christian nation” all those people are ignorant. America is not a Christian country. America is a freecountry where people are supposed to be free of persecution, including persecution on the grounds of religion. Just because America was founded in times where our forefathers were being persecuted for their religious beliefs does not mean that America is supposed to be a Christian country.
Americans need to wake up; just because a great majority of Americans are Christian does not mean that Americans have to be Christian, and the ideals of America do not need to be Christian. Americans who think so are ignorant of the rights guaranteed to all who enter this country, American, not American, or not-yet American.
I am a Minnesotan and I am proud to say that my state has the wherewithal to vote for a person, regardless of religious affiliation.
Americans need to remember that there is supposed to be a separation of church and state, not the inclusion of church by the state.
Until Americans, especially those like the moron (@ Wendee M) who posted the quote I used above realize that America is terribly wrong in thinking it has a burden (in some people’s minds– a right) to go about usurping other people’s rights, both here in America and also abroad, and telling them that they are wrong in not being Christian, America will always be the enemy of the rest of the world, and the reason we don’t have peace.
“We are a nation built on Christianity – that means the Bible. We are not a Muslim nation. We are a Christian nation. If he wants to get sworn into office with the Koran – than tell him loud and clear to go back to the native country of his ancestors.”
Baloney!
The “native country of his ancestors” would be, um, the United States (Michigan). He was raised in the Roman Catholic faith.
President John Quincy Adams, as someone here pointed out, refused to swear on the Bible, and used a book of United States law, including the Constitution.
The United States is NOT a “Christian nation;” it is a nation with a SECULAR government, without an official religion.
Keith Ellison If This statement Is true, You need to check yourself, and pray to Allah And ask Him for his forgiveness! We Love Our beloved brother minister.
Rosen falsely called U.S. Rep.-elect Ellison “a follower of Louis Farrakhan”
Summary: During his Newsradio 850 KOA show, host Mike Rosen falsely described U.S. Rep.-elect Keith Ellison (D-MN), the first Muslim elected to Congress, as “a follower of Louis Farrakhan.” While Ellison has acknowledged his past association with the Nation of Islam, he has since denounced the organization because of its “anti-Semitic statements and actions.”
During the December 8 broadcast of his show, Newsradio 850 KOA host Mike Rosen called U.S. Rep.-elect Keith Ellison (D-MN) “a follower of Louis Farrakhan,” the Nation of Islam leader whom the Anti-Defamation League notes “has long expressed anti-Semitic and anti-white rhetoric, that mark him as a notable figure on the extremist scene.” In fact, as the Chicago Tribune reported on June 30 (accessed through the Nexis database), “Ellison has vigorously denounced the Nation of Islam and Farrakhan.”
From the December 8 broadcast of Newsradio 850 KOA’s The Mike Rosen Show:
ROSEN: Keith Ellison will be a congressman — a member of the U.S. House — from the state of Minnesota, who will be seated in January when the new Congress takes power. And he is a — a Muslim. He’s a convert to the religion, a follower of Louis Farrakhan. And he’s the one who’s created quite a bit of controversy when he said that he will not take his oath of office with his hand on a Bible — he’d rather take his oath of office with his hand on the Quran. Dennis Prager, a conservative talk show host and columnist, has criticized Keith Ellison for that. He says it undermines American culture and civilization, and would prefer that Ellison take his oath of office with his hand on a Bible. I’ll part company with Dennis Prager on that. I would — I would certainly respect Keith Ellison’s right to take his oath of office without putting his hand on a — on a Bible. Although, my preference would be that he use a Bible rather than the Quran.
While Ellison has acknowledged an association with the Nation of Islam in the 1990s, he denounced Farrakhan and Nation of Islam in a May 28, 2006, letter to the Jewish Community Relations Council of Minnesota and the Dakotas:
I saw in the Nation of Islam, and specifically the Million Man March, an effort to promote African-American self-sufficiency, personal responsibility, and community economic development. I did not adequately scrutinize the positions and statements of the Nation of Islam, Louis Farrakhan, and Khalid Muhammed. I wrongly dismissed concerns that they were anti-Semitic. They were and are anti-Semitic and I should have come to that conclusion earlier than I did. I regret that I didn’t. But at no time did I ever share their hateful views or repeat or approve of their hateful statements directed at Jews, gays or any other group.
Ellison also stated in the letter, “I have long since distanced myself from and rejected the Nation of Islam due to its propagation of bigoted and anti-Semitic ideas and statements, as well as other issues … And I reject and condemn the anti-Semitic statements and actions of the Nation of Islam, Louis Farrakhan, and Khalid Muhammed.”
As the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported on November 13, Ellison “will carry into office the hopes of Muslims and the expectations of a home district that includes half of Minnesota’s Jewish population and plenty of urban problems.” A November 8 BBC article noted that during Ellison’s campaign, he “was supported by the National Jewish Democratic Council as well as a prominent Minneapolis Jewish newspaper, which endorsed him over his Republican rival Alan Fine, who is Jewish.”
Later in the show, Rosen seemingly questioned whether Ellison could “ethically and morally hold office” in describing Rosen’s own understanding of the role of the Judeo-Christian tradition in American public life:
ROSEN: One of the reasons that traditionally people have taken oaths — either serving as witnesses in trials or defendants, or being sworn in with the oath of office as president or a member of Congress — one of the reasons people have put their hands on a, on the Judeo-Christian Bible — which includes the Old Testament and the New — is that this is one of the foundations of Western civilization, and it’s also one of the foundational sources of our law. Moses was known as the lawgiver. The Ten Commandments have — have had a great deal of influence over the creation of law in Western society. So it’s consistent with that part of our society that qualifies as Caesar’s element — render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s — for people who serve in law-making and governing capacities to take an oath consistent with our foundation. For those who really believe that the Constitution is blasphemy, at least in parts when it conflicts with Islam — these people have a right to their religious beliefs and they can operate in our society. But the question is, can they ethically and morally hold office?
It’s not possible there was a mis-understanding on the airline, is it? The muslim chaps couldn’t have been saying something that was misheard? It was a private conversation, afterall. It’s possible.
Maybe they said “Salam Alaikum” (Peace be upon you).
Nah. They must have been talking about Saddam. “Saddam Allah. Dirka dirka. Jihad Saddam. Berka berka.” That’s Islamian-speak, right?
Don’t play the race card, this is not about race. This is about a radical Islamist wannabe, american convert to Islam. This guy is from michigan who’s grandparent was involved with the NAACP. Wanting to change our american culture to an islamist culture. Claiming the quaran influenced our country, because jefferson had a quran in his possession. This is PROPAGANDA. So what you have in your personal possession means you live by that book? Yeah right. Many have a variety of books out of curiosity, not that we will follow what is written in it. So EVERYONE reading Mein Kampf is a neo nazi. That is ridiculous and ignorant.
Given the Star Tribune’s disinclination to examine Ellison’s public record, or to get straight what little it has let come to the surface, we thought we might set out a Keith Ellison timeline and post copies of some key articles as a companion to the Standard piece:
1987–Ellison enrolls in University of Minnesota Law School
1989–Ellison publishes the first of two articles in the University of Minnesota Daily under the alias “Keith Hakim.” In the first such article, Ellison speaks up for the Nation of Islam.
1990–Ellison participates in the sponsorship of the anti-Semitic speech by Kwame Ture given at the University of Minnesota Law School (”Zionism: Imperialism, White Supremacy or Both?”). Ellison rejects the appeal of Jewish law students to withdraw sponsorship of the lecture. Ellison graduates from University of Minnesota Law School.
1992–Ellison appears as speaker at demonstration against Minneapolis police with Vice Lords leader Sharif Willis following the murder of Officer Haaf by four Vice Lords gangsters in September.
1993–Ellison leads demonstration chanting “We don’t get no justice, you don’t get no peace” in support of Vice Lords defendant on trial for the murder of Officer Haaf. Ellison attends Gang Summit in Kansas City with Willis.
1995–Ellison supports Million Man March, appears at organizing rally with former Nation of Islam spokesman Khalid Muhammed at University of Minnesota. Ellison acts as local Nation of Islam leader in march at office of U.S. Attorney in Minneapolis protesting indictment of Qubilah Shabazz for conspiring to murder Louis Farrakhan. Ellison charges FBI with conspiring to murder Farrakhan. Ellison writes article under alias “Keith X Ellison” attacking Star Tribune for criticizing Louis Farrakhan. Here it is; click to enlarge:
1997–Ellison appears under alias “Keith Ellison-Muhammad” at Minnesota Initiative Against Racism hearing in support of Joanne Jackson. Ellison defends “the truth” of Jackson’s statement that “Jews are the most racist white people.” This is the Star Tribune’s article on the controversy, which refers to Ellison’s statement:
This is the statement that Ellison read, as described in the Star Tribune article, and published in the Minneapolis Spokesman-Recorder; click to enlarge:
1998–Ellison first runs for DFL endorsement for state representative. Ellison identifies himself as member of Nation of Islam in Insight News article on his candidacy. Ellison runs for endorsement under alias “Keith Ellison-Muhammad.” This is the Insight News article; click to enlarge:
2000–Ellison gives speech supporting Kathleen Soliah/Sara Jane Olson at National Lawyers Guild fundraiser. Demands Soliah/Olson’s release. Asks audience to recall time when “Qubilah Shabazz was prosecuted in retribution against Minister Farrakhan.” Speaks favorably of cop killers Mumia Abu-Jamal and Assata Shakur.
May 2006–Ellison writes letter to JCRC asserting involvement with Nation of Islam limited to 18 months supporting Million Man March.
August 2006–Ellison appears at unpublicizied fundraiser with CAIR executive director and Hamas supporter Nihad Awad among featured guests.
What are we to make of this? Take a look at Ellison’s May 28 letter to the Jewish Community Relations Council; it has served as the keystone of his campaign. That letter to the contrary notwithstanding, the documents posted above nevertheless by themselves establish that 1) Ellison’s involvement with the Nation of Islam exceeded any 18-month period, 2) Ellison’s involvement with the Nation of Islam extended far beyond the promotion of the Million Man March, and 3) that Ellison himself, far from being ignorant of the Nation of Islam’s anti-Semitism, actively supported it.
The steadfast refusal of the local Minnesota media to examine Ellison’s public record in the course of his congressional campaign represents a striking case of nonfeasance, incompetence and willfully averted eyes that is a story unto itself.
The wool has been pulled over the eyes of minnesotans. You need to examine the past record of a person before voting them in.
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Yes, but does he make clear he’s not the enemy?
November 22nd, 2006 at 2:07 pmI sincerely hope that was in jest, Nathan.
November 22nd, 2006 at 2:13 pmAttempts by Republicans and their media mouthpieces to smear Ellison have been deliberately crafted to pander to their racist base.
November 22nd, 2006 at 2:23 pmI’m from MN.
November 22nd, 2006 at 2:23 pmThe event he was talking about had some interesting aftermath.
6 Imams were seen praying prior to boarding a flight out of Mpls.
When they boarded, some paranoid passenger passed a note to the Stewardess, who passed it to the pilots, who refused to fly the plane.
These gentlemen were handcuffed & Q&A’d for 3 hours, even thought they had passed TSA checkpoints.
Aren’t we a little paranoid, America?
Keith was the guy who Glenn Beckshit’s first question was something like ‘how do I know you’re not a terrorist?’
Coexistence.
Without it, we cannot move forward in the 21st Century.
Without it, we all die or lose loved ones over religous wars.
Let’s get started, America.
We became great by inclusiveness. It’s the only answer.
Zimzone, I’m aware of the incident. I just don’t feel that repeating it elsewhere does anyone any good. It was a deliberate jab at someone who didn’t deserve it, completely unprofessional, and furthers the sick worldview that all browns are out to kill whitey in some way.
Unnecessary.
November 22nd, 2006 at 2:27 pmA Christmas Card To The World!
November 22nd, 2006 at 2:31 pmI believe Nathan was referring to the interview of Ellison by CNN’s Beck who flat out asked him to prove that he wasnt a terrorist or aiding our enemies- but insisted he wasnt questioning his loyalty.
This is where we are in the US in the 21st century: if you’re not a white christian or a republican in general, you must prove your loyalty to the US, and, without ‘questioning your loyalty’, you’ll just be assumed a terrorist until you prove otherwise.
November 22nd, 2006 at 2:32 pmRonin,
November 22nd, 2006 at 2:34 pmI respectfully disagree.
What’s unecessary is the original statment about terrorism.
Unless you were talking about the airport incident.
If so, I’m not sure what to make of your comment.
Let me clarify:
“I’m aware of the incident with Glen Beck. I just don’t feel that repeating the comment in conjunction with any appearance of Ellison does anyone any good. Beck’s comment was a deliberate jab at someone who didn’t deserve it, completely unprofessional to do as an interviewer, and furthers the sick conservative worldview that all browns are out to kill whitey in some way.
Unnecessary.”
My apologies for any confusion.
November 22nd, 2006 at 2:38 pmI don’t get your logic, Ronin. I think that the Glenn Beck incident should be repeated again and again until everyone has heard about it. It is part of a systematic attempt to smear Ellison, and it is being done with overtly racist intent. It should be called out again and again until the cockroaches scurry away from the light.
November 22nd, 2006 at 2:46 pmAren’t we a little paranoid, America?
Comment by Zimzone — November 22, 2006 @ 2:23 pm
This country has turned into a bunch of bedwetters. I read in the news that the Imams were questioned for five hours, not three hours, and they were handcuffed to boot. The incident was driven by racism, nothing else. I will not fly US Airways again.
November 22nd, 2006 at 2:50 pmOh, and good for Northwest Airlines for flying them home the next day, when US Airways incredibly continued to refuse to do so.
November 22nd, 2006 at 2:58 pmI won’t be flying US Airways again, either. And, if I ever encounter some sniveling little paranoid racist like the one that passed the note to the flight attendant while I’m flying on some other airline, I might just ask to have them removed. It’s not safe to have someone on the plane who’s motivated by irrational fears. You just don’t know what they’re capable of.
Or, should I be afraid of someone I see praying in the terminal if that person belongs to a different religion than I do (i.e. any religion)?
November 22nd, 2006 at 3:04 pmRealScientist, and then what? America is suffering from what has been coined scandal burnout. Making this a scandal won’t make people sit up and notice. They will just shrugh their shoulders and move on. Yes, I was outraged about it, but ultimately Glen Beck is a small cog in a bigger system. After months of protests and outrage, we get him fired, let’s say. There’s legions of others that have done worse and legions ready to take Glen Beck’s place for the right price.
Getting outraged at everything is the progressive movement’s biggest weakness. It could be big enough to tackle everything, but it isn’t yet. A focus is required to take out the big offenders, and the support structure underneath it will cease to have relevance. Standards tactics, really.
Look, what Beck said was shitty, yes. I didn’t see anything constructive in repeating it. The people that care know about it, since they are active seekers of corruption and turth. The rest don’t read sites like this and don’t care. If we repeat this everytime Ellison shows his face, then the only people who will pay any attention to it are the people who would then ask themselves ‘yes, he SHOULD prove he’s not a terrorist’, hence furthering the twisted worldview that statement represents.
You do yourself and the progressive movement a disservice by repeating it, but that’s my opinion.
November 22nd, 2006 at 3:05 pmThank you, RealScientist.
November 22nd, 2006 at 3:07 pmPretending that what was said wasn’t is just what Neosluts count on.
Enough, already.
Glen Beck must be using drugs again.
Maybe he’s getting them from Rush?
Terrorist, indeed.
Coexistence.
Inclusiveness.
Magic words, America.
I didn’t fight for the USA to let chickenshithawks pretend they’re better than the people showering after work, but never served.
I’ll know what to do with a terrorist if & when I encounter one.
So far, the only ones I see are on Fox News & CSpan.
I read somewhere that whomever ratted on them said that they were expressing “Anti-American” sentiments. Maybe like, “damn, stale peanuts again!”
It reminded me of the incident where two Middle Eastern students on their way to Miami to return to school were turned in by someone at a Waffle House for bitching about their college and the FBI chased them down the highway.
I guess if you live in fear, you fear everything.
November 22nd, 2006 at 3:22 pmI think both stories bear repeating often for they sybolise the fear and distrust our nation has developed and to me they symbolise the right wing in a nutshell. They are little more than fear peddling take what I can get for me politicians and they sell it to their base continually 24/7/7
November 22nd, 2006 at 3:53 pmRun, run!!! A communist…I mean…a Nazi…I mean…an illegall…I mean a Muslim!!!
November 22nd, 2006 at 4:16 pmYou do yourself and the progressive movement a disservice by repeating it, but that’s my opinion.
Comment by Ronin_Tetsuro
There are two ways to change things: Intellectuals vs. Uneducated people in rage. Marx vs. Bakunin. Castro vs. Guevara. etc…
November 22nd, 2006 at 4:20 pmBefore passengers boarded, one became alarmed by an overheard discussion. “They seemed angry,” he wrote in a police statement. “Mentioned ‘U.S.’ and ‘killing Saddam.’ Two men then swore slightly under their breath/mumbled. They spoke Arabic again. The gate called boarding for the flight. The men then chanted ‘Allah, Allah, Allah.’ ”
Marwan Sadeddin, another of the imams, said, “What bothers me the most is these false statements and lies that we were shouting, ‘Allah, Allah.’ This never happened.”
Another, Ahmad Shqeirat, said, “That is a lie. We were not talking politics. And even if we did, so what? What is suspicious about that?”
Once the six were seated, two in front, two in the middle and two in back, and paid visits to each other to chat, some passengers became alarmed, the police report said. One passed a note to a flight attendant citing the alleged comments about Allah and Saddam.
Flight attendants alerted the pilot, who called airport police and asked them to remove the men from the plane. They left “cooperatively,” according to the police report.
November 22nd, 2006 at 4:25 pm- Minneapolis Star Tribune 11/22/06
At last a Congressman you Kow will speak the truth and not take bribes
I know quite a few muslims – They are very Honest and trustworthy
November 22nd, 2006 at 5:38 pmForgot to add: /glennbeck
Just in case there was any confusion.
Remember when asking such a question on the air would have lost you all credibility, and maybe even your show? Now ignorant racism is just “strong opinion.”
November 22nd, 2006 at 5:39 pmAnd this is the guy of whom Glen Beck demanded that he prove his patriotism. Beck is the one who should be questioned: Prove to me that you have a functioning brain, Mr. Beck. Prove to me why you have a TV show on CNN.
November 22nd, 2006 at 5:54 pmMinesota I am proud of you for electing this man to Congress. He sounds intelligent, articulate, and has the integrity to run this great country. I wish Keith the best and I am hoping to see him for more than one term.
November 22nd, 2006 at 6:06 pmHere’s the thing about Glen Beck: you only hear his name when he has said something outrageously stupid and/or offensive. And he’s on CNN, so his target audience doesn’t even watch him because he’s not on FOX (for that matter, why does ANYONE watch CNN anymore? Seems to me that they’re too liberal for the red state crowd and too much a corporate whorefest for liberals).
Seriously, the only people I’ve ever heard quoting Glen Beck are outraged progressives. If we ignore him he becomes a non-entity.
November 22nd, 2006 at 6:15 pmGlenn Beck has proven that he is the traitor, not Mr. Ellison.
November 22nd, 2006 at 10:47 pm#25
November 22nd, 2006 at 11:10 pmSeriously, the only people I’ve ever heard quoting Glen Beck are outraged progressives. If we ignore him he becomes a non-entity.
Comment by Jeremy Henderson
You make a good point.
Most people, when ignored, just go away — in the case of some obnoxious show hosts, however, they often become louder and more outrageous, thinking that we might have missed them the first time.
So, if we ignore Beck – as we should – I am not so sure that he’d go away.
A New Congressman Says ‘No’ to the President
Ellison, the first Muslim to ever be elected to Congress, skipped the private reception at the White House in order to attend a reception organized by the American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations.
“I went to the AFL-CIO reception, because I wanted to meet and greet leaders of labor, and get to know them,” explained Ellison, who won an intense Democratic primary and then the general election with strong union backing. “Those are the people who I came here to support.” Was it hard to give up a chance to rub elbows with the president and vice president?
“We are being led by a president who believes he has a right to send us to war based on a lie, that it’s O.K. to torture prisoners and to spy on Americans. His administration has given sweetheart deals and no-bid contracts to private companies and then looked the other way when those profiteers cannot account for hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars,” Ellison said during the campaign. And, yet, where is the outrage? Where are the leaders who are willing to stand up and demand accountability?”
“I’m running for Congress because there has been a wholesale abdication of responsibility by our political leaders,” Ellison continued. “When I get to Washington, I will demand complete responsibility from this administration.”
Come to think of it, Bush, Cheney and Rove were probably just as happy that Ellison didn’t have time to come to the White House last week.
HIS GUY IS GOOD
November 23rd, 2006 at 8:27 amThe one who should prove that he isnt a terrorist is Glen Beck. After all, Timothy McVeigh wasn’t Muslim. So tell us Glen, are you a terrorist? Huh?
November 23rd, 2006 at 8:00 pm[...] Right-wing radio host Dennis Prager wrote a column earlier this week claiming that Rep.-elect Keith Ellison (D-MN), the first Muslim elected to Congress, had “announced that he will not take his oath of office on the Bible, but on the bible of Islam, the Koran.” Prager claimed this “act undermines American civilization,” and compared it to being sworn in with a copy of Hitler’s “Mein Kampf.” [...]
November 30th, 2006 at 1:47 pm[...] Right-wing radio host Dennis Prager wrote a column earlier this week claiming that Rep.-elect Keith Ellison (D-MN), the first Muslim elected to Congress, had “announced that he will not take his oath of office on the Bible, but on the bible of Islam, the Koran.†Prager claimed this “act undermines American civilization,†and compared it to being sworn in with a copy of Hitler’s “Mein Kampf.†[...]
November 30th, 2006 at 2:45 pmGeeze, people…
Who cares if he happens to believe in Islam, is African-American,etc.
THe botom line is that his believes that ARE relevant ARE scarey.
- He’s a big spender
- He’s anti-business
- He’s weak on security
- He won’t defend America’s borders
I don’t give a flying F of his religion or skin color – he’s elected to balance the budget, protect the borders and keep American safe from outside threats. His policies are contradictory to all these goals.
Enough.
-zuckermom-
December 1st, 2006 at 2:45 pmDear Honorable Keith Ellison,
First of all, let me congratulate you on your election to the United States House of Representatives. As someone born and raised in Minnesota (Montevideo) and ordained as a Lutheran clergyman, I take great pride in knowing that Minnesota again is leading the way in making positive change in this nation. While I am also sure that you did not seek election primarily to make a statement as a Muslim person, I am glad it will have some of that effect.
The debate about where you will place your hand during the oath of office — on the Bible or the Koran– makes me embarrassed. It seems to me that the Founding Fathers of our country chose a book, by custom at the time, that was revered by the person swearing to the Oath. If you take the crazy arguments of the ultra-right to their extreme, they would rather have you swear on the “Sears Catalogue”… if it were tradition, than placing your hand on a book that is personally meaningful and revered by you. This is demagoguery. It also betrays an intolerance I find personally, as a Christian and an American, highly offensive.
Perhaps you could place a Koran atop a Bible so that you will place your hand directly on the Koran (which I assume you will find most meaningful), but the zealots will be content knowing that the Bible was somehow (even if tangentially) involved.
Again, this whole business makes me embarrassed to be an American, since I find the entire process filled with political hyperoble and totally lacking in common sense. I think you would be absolutely right to just use a Koran.
My best to you as you wrestle with this example of intolerance. Again, I wish you the best in your new position in public life. You make a former Minnesotan proud!
Ron North
P.O. Box 206
December 1st, 2006 at 7:11 pmMoorestown, NJ 08057
Phone: (856) 787-0840
Fax: (856) 231-0914
The people of Minnesota have lost their minds!! I can not believe how ignorant they are to elect a man that is apart of the group “Nations of Islam” which is basically a group that HATES white christians! I’M SURE HE WANTS TO KEEP THIS QUIET THOUGH.
December 1st, 2006 at 7:23 pmI thought it would be good for you to read what I have sent my Pennsylvania state representatives in reference to your ridiculous statement that you should be sworn into office using the Koran:
I can’t believe they are even considering this. We are a nation built on Christianity – that means the Bible. We are not a Muslim nation. We are a Christian nation. If he wants to get sworn into office with the Koran – than tell him loud and clear to go back to the native country of his ancestors. I’m sure the constituents that put him in office did not know he had his own political agenda in mind. This is ridiculous.
I ask that you introduce and help get passed a law making the Bible the book to be used in swearing in Representatives, Senators, the President and Vice-President and other public officials.
Thank you for your time. I look forward to hearing from you on this matter of importance to me and my family.
You should be ashamed of yourself!!
December 1st, 2006 at 8:06 pmAustralasian Police Multicultural Advisory Bureau has several publications for Australia dealing with multi-faith issues and A Practical Reference to Religious Diversity for Operational Police and Emergency Services covers oaths, Death, Gender Roles and Family, Physical Contact and sensitivities (like giving blood samples), Religious Practices and Policing and other topics covering twelve faith-traditions, (in review as of 12/2/2006 but the 2nd Edition is available. I think this kind of thing should be done here.
December 2nd, 2006 at 8:32 amJohn Quincy Adams’ Oath of Office was interesting!
December 2nd, 2006 at 8:35 amTo those who are making comments like “We are a nation built on Christianity – that means the Bible. We are not a Muslim nation. We are a Christian nation” all those people are ignorant. America is not a Christian country. America is a freecountry where people are supposed to be free of persecution, including persecution on the grounds of religion. Just because America was founded in times where our forefathers were being persecuted for their religious beliefs does not mean that America is supposed to be a Christian country.
Americans need to wake up; just because a great majority of Americans are Christian does not mean that Americans have to be Christian, and the ideals of America do not need to be Christian. Americans who think so are ignorant of the rights guaranteed to all who enter this country, American, not American, or not-yet American.
I am a Minnesotan and I am proud to say that my state has the wherewithal to vote for a person, regardless of religious affiliation.
Americans need to remember that there is supposed to be a separation of church and state, not the inclusion of church by the state.
Until Americans, especially those like the moron (@ Wendee M) who posted the quote I used above realize that America is terribly wrong in thinking it has a burden (in some people’s minds– a right) to go about usurping other people’s rights, both here in America and also abroad, and telling them that they are wrong in not being Christian, America will always be the enemy of the rest of the world, and the reason we don’t have peace.
December 4th, 2006 at 11:32 am“We are a nation built on Christianity – that means the Bible. We are not a Muslim nation. We are a Christian nation. If he wants to get sworn into office with the Koran – than tell him loud and clear to go back to the native country of his ancestors.”
Baloney!
The “native country of his ancestors” would be, um, the United States (Michigan). He was raised in the Roman Catholic faith.
President John Quincy Adams, as someone here pointed out, refused to swear on the Bible, and used a book of United States law, including the Constitution.
The United States is NOT a “Christian nation;” it is a nation with a SECULAR government, without an official religion.
December 11th, 2006 at 12:01 pmKeith Ellison If This statement Is true, You need to check yourself, and pray to Allah And ask Him for his forgiveness! We Love Our beloved brother minister.
Rosen falsely called U.S. Rep.-elect Ellison “a follower of Louis Farrakhan”
Summary: During his Newsradio 850 KOA show, host Mike Rosen falsely described U.S. Rep.-elect Keith Ellison (D-MN), the first Muslim elected to Congress, as “a follower of Louis Farrakhan.” While Ellison has acknowledged his past association with the Nation of Islam, he has since denounced the organization because of its “anti-Semitic statements and actions.”
During the December 8 broadcast of his show, Newsradio 850 KOA host Mike Rosen called U.S. Rep.-elect Keith Ellison (D-MN) “a follower of Louis Farrakhan,” the Nation of Islam leader whom the Anti-Defamation League notes “has long expressed anti-Semitic and anti-white rhetoric, that mark him as a notable figure on the extremist scene.” In fact, as the Chicago Tribune reported on June 30 (accessed through the Nexis database), “Ellison has vigorously denounced the Nation of Islam and Farrakhan.”
From the December 8 broadcast of Newsradio 850 KOA’s The Mike Rosen Show:
ROSEN: Keith Ellison will be a congressman — a member of the U.S. House — from the state of Minnesota, who will be seated in January when the new Congress takes power. And he is a — a Muslim. He’s a convert to the religion, a follower of Louis Farrakhan. And he’s the one who’s created quite a bit of controversy when he said that he will not take his oath of office with his hand on a Bible — he’d rather take his oath of office with his hand on the Quran. Dennis Prager, a conservative talk show host and columnist, has criticized Keith Ellison for that. He says it undermines American culture and civilization, and would prefer that Ellison take his oath of office with his hand on a Bible. I’ll part company with Dennis Prager on that. I would — I would certainly respect Keith Ellison’s right to take his oath of office without putting his hand on a — on a Bible. Although, my preference would be that he use a Bible rather than the Quran.
While Ellison has acknowledged an association with the Nation of Islam in the 1990s, he denounced Farrakhan and Nation of Islam in a May 28, 2006, letter to the Jewish Community Relations Council of Minnesota and the Dakotas:
I saw in the Nation of Islam, and specifically the Million Man March, an effort to promote African-American self-sufficiency, personal responsibility, and community economic development. I did not adequately scrutinize the positions and statements of the Nation of Islam, Louis Farrakhan, and Khalid Muhammed. I wrongly dismissed concerns that they were anti-Semitic. They were and are anti-Semitic and I should have come to that conclusion earlier than I did. I regret that I didn’t. But at no time did I ever share their hateful views or repeat or approve of their hateful statements directed at Jews, gays or any other group.
Ellison also stated in the letter, “I have long since distanced myself from and rejected the Nation of Islam due to its propagation of bigoted and anti-Semitic ideas and statements, as well as other issues … And I reject and condemn the anti-Semitic statements and actions of the Nation of Islam, Louis Farrakhan, and Khalid Muhammed.”
As the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported on November 13, Ellison “will carry into office the hopes of Muslims and the expectations of a home district that includes half of Minnesota’s Jewish population and plenty of urban problems.” A November 8 BBC article noted that during Ellison’s campaign, he “was supported by the National Jewish Democratic Council as well as a prominent Minneapolis Jewish newspaper, which endorsed him over his Republican rival Alan Fine, who is Jewish.”
Later in the show, Rosen seemingly questioned whether Ellison could “ethically and morally hold office” in describing Rosen’s own understanding of the role of the Judeo-Christian tradition in American public life:
ROSEN: One of the reasons that traditionally people have taken oaths — either serving as witnesses in trials or defendants, or being sworn in with the oath of office as president or a member of Congress — one of the reasons people have put their hands on a, on the Judeo-Christian Bible — which includes the Old Testament and the New — is that this is one of the foundations of Western civilization, and it’s also one of the foundational sources of our law. Moses was known as the lawgiver. The Ten Commandments have — have had a great deal of influence over the creation of law in Western society. So it’s consistent with that part of our society that qualifies as Caesar’s element — render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s — for people who serve in law-making and governing capacities to take an oath consistent with our foundation. For those who really believe that the Constitution is blasphemy, at least in parts when it conflicts with Islam — these people have a right to their religious beliefs and they can operate in our society. But the question is, can they ethically and morally hold office?
December 12th, 2006 at 5:27 pmIt’s not possible there was a mis-understanding on the airline, is it? The muslim chaps couldn’t have been saying something that was misheard? It was a private conversation, afterall. It’s possible.
Maybe they said “Salam Alaikum” (Peace be upon you).
Nah. They must have been talking about Saddam. “Saddam Allah. Dirka dirka. Jihad Saddam. Berka berka.” That’s Islamian-speak, right?
December 29th, 2006 at 9:40 pmDon’t play the race card, this is not about race. This is about a radical Islamist wannabe, american convert to Islam. This guy is from michigan who’s grandparent was involved with the NAACP. Wanting to change our american culture to an islamist culture. Claiming the quaran influenced our country, because jefferson had a quran in his possession. This is PROPAGANDA. So what you have in your personal possession means you live by that book? Yeah right. Many have a variety of books out of curiosity, not that we will follow what is written in it. So EVERYONE reading Mein Kampf is a neo nazi. That is ridiculous and ignorant.
Given the Star Tribune’s disinclination to examine Ellison’s public record, or to get straight what little it has let come to the surface, we thought we might set out a Keith Ellison timeline and post copies of some key articles as a companion to the Standard piece:
1987–Ellison enrolls in University of Minnesota Law School
1989–Ellison publishes the first of two articles in the University of Minnesota Daily under the alias “Keith Hakim.” In the first such article, Ellison speaks up for the Nation of Islam.
1990–Ellison participates in the sponsorship of the anti-Semitic speech by Kwame Ture given at the University of Minnesota Law School (”Zionism: Imperialism, White Supremacy or Both?”). Ellison rejects the appeal of Jewish law students to withdraw sponsorship of the lecture. Ellison graduates from University of Minnesota Law School.
1992–Ellison appears as speaker at demonstration against Minneapolis police with Vice Lords leader Sharif Willis following the murder of Officer Haaf by four Vice Lords gangsters in September.
1993–Ellison leads demonstration chanting “We don’t get no justice, you don’t get no peace” in support of Vice Lords defendant on trial for the murder of Officer Haaf. Ellison attends Gang Summit in Kansas City with Willis.
1995–Ellison supports Million Man March, appears at organizing rally with former Nation of Islam spokesman Khalid Muhammed at University of Minnesota. Ellison acts as local Nation of Islam leader in march at office of U.S. Attorney in Minneapolis protesting indictment of Qubilah Shabazz for conspiring to murder Louis Farrakhan. Ellison charges FBI with conspiring to murder Farrakhan. Ellison writes article under alias “Keith X Ellison” attacking Star Tribune for criticizing Louis Farrakhan. Here it is; click to enlarge:
1997–Ellison appears under alias “Keith Ellison-Muhammad” at Minnesota Initiative Against Racism hearing in support of Joanne Jackson. Ellison defends “the truth” of Jackson’s statement that “Jews are the most racist white people.” This is the Star Tribune’s article on the controversy, which refers to Ellison’s statement:
This is the statement that Ellison read, as described in the Star Tribune article, and published in the Minneapolis Spokesman-Recorder; click to enlarge:
1998–Ellison first runs for DFL endorsement for state representative. Ellison identifies himself as member of Nation of Islam in Insight News article on his candidacy. Ellison runs for endorsement under alias “Keith Ellison-Muhammad.” This is the Insight News article; click to enlarge:
2000–Ellison gives speech supporting Kathleen Soliah/Sara Jane Olson at National Lawyers Guild fundraiser. Demands Soliah/Olson’s release. Asks audience to recall time when “Qubilah Shabazz was prosecuted in retribution against Minister Farrakhan.” Speaks favorably of cop killers Mumia Abu-Jamal and Assata Shakur.
May 2006–Ellison writes letter to JCRC asserting involvement with Nation of Islam limited to 18 months supporting Million Man March.
August 2006–Ellison appears at unpublicizied fundraiser with CAIR executive director and Hamas supporter Nihad Awad among featured guests.
What are we to make of this? Take a look at Ellison’s May 28 letter to the Jewish Community Relations Council; it has served as the keystone of his campaign. That letter to the contrary notwithstanding, the documents posted above nevertheless by themselves establish that 1) Ellison’s involvement with the Nation of Islam exceeded any 18-month period, 2) Ellison’s involvement with the Nation of Islam extended far beyond the promotion of the Million Man March, and 3) that Ellison himself, far from being ignorant of the Nation of Islam’s anti-Semitism, actively supported it.
The steadfast refusal of the local Minnesota media to examine Ellison’s public record in the course of his congressional campaign represents a striking case of nonfeasance, incompetence and willfully averted eyes that is a story unto itself.
The wool has been pulled over the eyes of minnesotans. You need to examine the past record of a person before voting them in.
Impeach him!
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