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		<title>By: ItsJustKarma</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/24/iraq-goes-from-bad-to-worse/comment-page-2/#comment-1181885</link>
		<dc:creator>ItsJustKarma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 22:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now there You have it. I feel that urgent need to make some statements regarding Adolf in general and fascism in specific. If You don&#039;t mind.
Robert and whoever shares his thoughts:
If it was beneficial, the US always pacted with &#039;Dictators&#039;.
If it was &#039;beneficial&#039; the US always supported the &#039;Right Wing Faction&#039; of any country that had even a &#039;Social Democratic&#039; government. Communist governments were &#039;evil&#039; in the first place and needed to be uprootet. Hitlers fall cannot so much be attributed to the US engagement in WW II because until Pearl Harbor Adolf was pretty much able to do whatever his deluded mind did come up with. After Pearl Habor it was through the so called &#039;AXIS&#039; between Germany, Italy and Japan, that the US was now at war with all members of said axis.

All the thousands of victims of Dictators in Central and South America never seemed to matter a whole lot. Once the US &#039;Conservatives&#039; called somebody &#039;liberal&#039; or ultimately &#039;Commie&#039;, life no longer had any value.

I know there is an &#039;Iraq Body Count&#039;. Wouldn&#039;t it be desirable to have a &#039;US Body Count&#039; that lists all the victims of &#039;US-friendly&#039; Dictators in the 20th and 21st century?
Don&#039;t get me wrong, the USA is a great country if it is not ruled by republicans. The Democratic USA always had deep and nourishing alliances all over the planet. It is the Democratic America that the world wants in its middle, not the republican one.
I had friends that delivered trucks from Germany to Baghdad in the eighties, even during the war with Iran. They always had stories about the hospitality of the Iraqis and stories about serious problems were limited to the Kurdish population in the north of Iraq. But even the Turkish army crossed the Iraqi border frequently to eliminate PKK fighters. I guess you would call those guys insurgents nowadays.
I believe all of our problems stem from the double/moral double/standard issue. As long as there is not one basic principle enforced: &lt;strong&gt;NO JUSTICE - NO PEACE&lt;/strong&gt; there will be no peaceful coexcistence possible.
As for this administration is true: A cornered snake will bite. So nobody should expect the people who ran this country into its worst misery ever (to be denied by the lesser intellectually gifted...) will give up their positions without fight. Another &#039;Terrorist-Attack&#039; would probably come handy...
Sorry for the lost &#039;red thread&#039; but there was one earthquake and one night between the two parts of this post...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now there You have it. I feel that urgent need to make some statements regarding Adolf in general and fascism in specific. If You don&#8217;t mind.<br />
Robert and whoever shares his thoughts:<br />
If it was beneficial, the US always pacted with &#8216;Dictators&#8217;.<br />
If it was &#8216;beneficial&#8217; the US always supported the &#8216;Right Wing Faction&#8217; of any country that had even a &#8216;Social Democratic&#8217; government. Communist governments were &#8216;evil&#8217; in the first place and needed to be uprootet. Hitlers fall cannot so much be attributed to the US engagement in WW II because until Pearl Harbor Adolf was pretty much able to do whatever his deluded mind did come up with. After Pearl Habor it was through the so called &#8216;AXIS&#8217; between Germany, Italy and Japan, that the US was now at war with all members of said axis.</p>
<p>All the thousands of victims of Dictators in Central and South America never seemed to matter a whole lot. Once the US &#8216;Conservatives&#8217; called somebody &#8216;liberal&#8217; or ultimately &#8216;Commie&#8217;, life no longer had any value.</p>
<p>I know there is an &#8216;Iraq Body Count&#8217;. Wouldn&#8217;t it be desirable to have a &#8216;US Body Count&#8217; that lists all the victims of &#8216;US-friendly&#8217; Dictators in the 20th and 21st century?<br />
Don&#8217;t get me wrong, the USA is a great country if it is not ruled by republicans. The Democratic USA always had deep and nourishing alliances all over the planet. It is the Democratic America that the world wants in its middle, not the republican one.<br />
I had friends that delivered trucks from Germany to Baghdad in the eighties, even during the war with Iran. They always had stories about the hospitality of the Iraqis and stories about serious problems were limited to the Kurdish population in the north of Iraq. But even the Turkish army crossed the Iraqi border frequently to eliminate PKK fighters. I guess you would call those guys insurgents nowadays.<br />
I believe all of our problems stem from the double/moral double/standard issue. As long as there is not one basic principle enforced: <strong>NO JUSTICE &#8211; NO PEACE</strong> there will be no peaceful coexcistence possible.<br />
As for this administration is true: A cornered snake will bite. So nobody should expect the people who ran this country into its worst misery ever (to be denied by the lesser intellectually gifted&#8230;) will give up their positions without fight. Another &#8216;Terrorist-Attack&#8217; would probably come handy&#8230;<br />
Sorry for the lost &#8216;red thread&#8217; but there was one earthquake and one night between the two parts of this post&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1181885', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: stonehinge</title>
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		<dc:creator>stonehinge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Share, never mind</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Share, never mind<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1180790', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: stonehinge</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/24/iraq-goes-from-bad-to-worse/comment-page-2/#comment-1180782</link>
		<dc:creator>stonehinge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Share, 

If you happen to check back here, please list your source on Tommy Franks and the Bush Twins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Share, </p>
<p>If you happen to check back here, please list your source on Tommy Franks and the Bush Twins.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1180782', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 12:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Last Throes have never looked rosier...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Last Throes have never looked rosier&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1180734', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 11:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Thinkprogress, why not link us to your redeployment plan again and tell us that the presence of US forces is what is driing the civil war and that withdrawal will improve the situation.

Oh that&#039;s right... might be best not to mention that piece of fantasy for a while. Especially not in conjunction with a story where Iraqi soldiers oversaw Sunni worshippers being burned alive.

You remember the Iraqi Army right ? The guys you think handing nationwide security over will stem the civil war once US forces are withdrawn. Yeah them.

Maybe you could come up with a shorter snappier title for your redeployment plan. How about &#039;Rwanda II&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Thinkprogress, why not link us to your redeployment plan again and tell us that the presence of US forces is what is driing the civil war and that withdrawal will improve the situation.</p>
<p>Oh that&#8217;s right&#8230; might be best not to mention that piece of fantasy for a while. Especially not in conjunction with a story where Iraqi soldiers oversaw Sunni worshippers being burned alive.</p>
<p>You remember the Iraqi Army right ? The guys you think handing nationwide security over will stem the civil war once US forces are withdrawn. Yeah them.</p>
<p>Maybe you could come up with a shorter snappier title for your redeployment plan. How about &#8216;Rwanda II&#8217;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1180586', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 11:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Thinkprogress, why not link us to your redeployment plan again and tell us that the presence of US forces is what is driing the civil war and that withdrawal will improve the situation.

Oh that&#039;s right... might be best not to mention that piece of fantasy for a while. Especially not in conjunction with a story where Iraqi soldiers oversaw Sunni worshippers being burned alive.

You remember the Iraqi Army right ? The guys you think handing nationwide security over will stem the civil war once US forces are withdrawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Thinkprogress, why not link us to your redeployment plan again and tell us that the presence of US forces is what is driing the civil war and that withdrawal will improve the situation.</p>
<p>Oh that&#8217;s right&#8230; might be best not to mention that piece of fantasy for a while. Especially not in conjunction with a story where Iraqi soldiers oversaw Sunni worshippers being burned alive.</p>
<p>You remember the Iraqi Army right ? The guys you think handing nationwide security over will stem the civil war once US forces are withdrawn.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1180583', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tobey Tall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tobey Tall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 10:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;FREEEEEEDOMMMMM
Blair warns SNP win could lead to break-up of United Kingdom&lt;/strong&gt;

The Prime Minister has launched a pre-emptive strike against the Scottish National Party as he warned that an SNP victory in next year&#039;s elections would plunge Britain into a &quot;constitutional nightmare&quot;. 

He focused his fire on the nationalists days before the SNP attempts to strike a new blow against the Government&#039;s stance on Iraq at the end of the Queen&#039;s Speech debate on Monday.

&lt;strong&gt;More than 100 MPs have signed a joint SNP-Plaid Cymru amendment to the Queen&#039;s Speech calling on Mr Blair to come to the Commons with a new strategy for dealing with the Iraq crisis.&lt;/strong&gt;


&lt;strong&gt;Also Bush &lt;/strong&gt;was in the tabloid paper saying Scotland should not be free -  THAT MEANS WE WANT FREEDOM MORE THAN EVER and we are winning by 55% as tp labour 35% and LIBS 10% ......... we hate conservatives in Scotland ............FREEEEEEEDOMMMMM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>FREEEEEEDOMMMMM<br />
Blair warns SNP win could lead to break-up of United Kingdom</strong></p>
<p>The Prime Minister has launched a pre-emptive strike against the Scottish National Party as he warned that an SNP victory in next year&#8217;s elections would plunge Britain into a &#8220;constitutional nightmare&#8221;. </p>
<p>He focused his fire on the nationalists days before the SNP attempts to strike a new blow against the Government&#8217;s stance on Iraq at the end of the Queen&#8217;s Speech debate on Monday.</p>
<p><strong>More than 100 MPs have signed a joint SNP-Plaid Cymru amendment to the Queen&#8217;s Speech calling on Mr Blair to come to the Commons with a new strategy for dealing with the Iraq crisis.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Also Bush </strong>was in the tabloid paper saying Scotland should not be free &#8211;  THAT MEANS WE WANT FREEDOM MORE THAN EVER and we are winning by 55% as tp labour 35% and LIBS 10% &#8230;&#8230;&#8230; we hate conservatives in Scotland &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;FREEEEEEEDOMMMMM<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1180522', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Share</title>
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		<dc:creator>Share</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=159124----ZAPATA OIL LINKS BUSH SR ISRAELI SNIPERS KILLING TROOPS 

16 November 2006, 

In Response To: ISRAELI SNIPERS KILLING US TROOPS IN IRAQ? 
Add these quotes (below) to the info from the documentary about 
JFK George Bush Sr C.I.A. CIA Link Conspiracy at 
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9137354720737304741&amp;q=

(not quite 2/3 way through the video) and you come to a chilling conclusion. (from that documentary) 
In the JFK documentary is info that &quot;in 1959, the year head of CIA Allen Dulles started planning the invasion of Cuba, Bush began his independent business carreer as sole owner of Zapata Offshore Oil at a place about 30 miles from Cuba. ... operation Mongoose...operation 40...the assassinations of operation 40 were supervised by E.Howard Hunt 

(from freedomcrowsnest) 

1) &quot;originating not from Iran, but come from Zapata Engineering&quot; 

2) &quot;Zapata Engineering, an offshoot of Zapata Oil with offices in North Carolina, Hawaii and Tel Aviv&quot; 

3) &quot;Zapata Engineering has hired these Israeli Mossad-types into Iraq for the purposes of alleged counter-insurgency&quot; 

Your link led me to 
http://www.freedomcrowsnest.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=49204 
(Here below I quote from there) 

&quot;Cloak News - Washington, D.C. - Zapata Engineering, an offshoot of Zapata Oil with offices in North Carolina, Hawaii and Tel Aviv, have now been linked to the hiring of private Mossad contractors aka alleged Israeli Engineers in Iraq. Of course that is not the real story. 

&quot;It can now be reported that Zapata Engineering has hired these Israeli Mossad-types into Iraq for the purposes of alleged counter-insurgency. 

However, the alleged Israeli engineers have now been fingered for sniping at U.S. Soldiers and the murder of two female American Marines who had their throats slit and then placed in garbage dumps. 

&quot;These female Marines had been investigating the origins of the I.E.D. (Improvised Explosives Devices). And of course it gets worse. It can now be reported that the origin of the I.E.D.â€™s, come not from Iran, but come from Zapata Engineering of North Carolina, Hawaii and Tel Aviv. 

&quot;And now of course, it really gets worse. The projectileâ€™s discovered by American Special Forces have depleted uranium tips which connects directly to the Israeli company Rafael, which of course is owned by Zapata Engineering of North Carolina, Hawaii and Tel Aviv. 

snip... 

&quot;P.S. Zapata Engineering, of course, is an offshoot of Zapata Oil. The same Zapata linked to Daddy Bush, British Permindex and the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy on Nov. 22. 1963. 

&quot;HOW DARE YOU? 

&quot;YOU TYRANTS &amp; CONSPIRATORIAL KINGS. 

&quot;P.P.S. It should be noted that the commander for the original invasion of Iraq was a Zionist Jew named Tommy Franks. Franks, of course, is the actual father of George W. Bushâ€™s two alleged daughters.</description>
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<p>16 November 2006, </p>
<p>In Response To: ISRAELI SNIPERS KILLING US TROOPS IN IRAQ?<br />
Add these quotes (below) to the info from the documentary about<br />
JFK George Bush Sr C.I.A. CIA Link Conspiracy at<br />
<a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9137354720737304741&amp;q=" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9137354720737304741&amp;q=</a></p>
<p>(not quite 2/3 way through the video) and you come to a chilling conclusion. (from that documentary)<br />
In the JFK documentary is info that &#8220;in 1959, the year head of CIA Allen Dulles started planning the invasion of Cuba, Bush began his independent business carreer as sole owner of Zapata Offshore Oil at a place about 30 miles from Cuba. &#8230; operation Mongoose&#8230;operation 40&#8230;the assassinations of operation 40 were supervised by E.Howard Hunt </p>
<p>(from freedomcrowsnest) </p>
<p>1) &#8220;originating not from Iran, but come from Zapata Engineering&#8221; </p>
<p>2) &#8220;Zapata Engineering, an offshoot of Zapata Oil with offices in North Carolina, Hawaii and Tel Aviv&#8221; </p>
<p>3) &#8220;Zapata Engineering has hired these Israeli Mossad-types into Iraq for the purposes of alleged counter-insurgency&#8221; </p>
<p>Your link led me to<br />
<a href="http://www.freedomcrowsnest.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=49204" rel="nofollow">http://www.freedomcrowsnest.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=49204</a><br />
(Here below I quote from there) </p>
<p>&#8220;Cloak News &#8211; Washington, D.C. &#8211; Zapata Engineering, an offshoot of Zapata Oil with offices in North Carolina, Hawaii and Tel Aviv, have now been linked to the hiring of private Mossad contractors aka alleged Israeli Engineers in Iraq. Of course that is not the real story. </p>
<p>&#8220;It can now be reported that Zapata Engineering has hired these Israeli Mossad-types into Iraq for the purposes of alleged counter-insurgency. </p>
<p>However, the alleged Israeli engineers have now been fingered for sniping at U.S. Soldiers and the murder of two female American Marines who had their throats slit and then placed in garbage dumps. </p>
<p>&#8220;These female Marines had been investigating the origins of the I.E.D. (Improvised Explosives Devices). And of course it gets worse. It can now be reported that the origin of the I.E.D.â€™s, come not from Iran, but come from Zapata Engineering of North Carolina, Hawaii and Tel Aviv. </p>
<p>&#8220;And now of course, it really gets worse. The projectileâ€™s discovered by American Special Forces have depleted uranium tips which connects directly to the Israeli company Rafael, which of course is owned by Zapata Engineering of North Carolina, Hawaii and Tel Aviv. </p>
<p>snip&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8220;P.S. Zapata Engineering, of course, is an offshoot of Zapata Oil. The same Zapata linked to Daddy Bush, British Permindex and the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy on Nov. 22. 1963. </p>
<p>&#8220;HOW DARE YOU? </p>
<p>&#8220;YOU TYRANTS &amp; CONSPIRATORIAL KINGS. </p>
<p>&#8220;P.P.S. It should be noted that the commander for the original invasion of Iraq was a Zionist Jew named Tommy Franks. Franks, of course, is the actual father of George W. Bushâ€™s two alleged daughters.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1179871', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Juan C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juan C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, robert. Now I believe it. If Penn &amp; Teller says it, it must be true. Its really hard to find something they dont describe as bullshit. Forget the scholars and scientists saying it is all a hoax. I rather believe them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, robert. Now I believe it. If Penn &amp; Teller says it, it must be true. Its really hard to find something they dont describe as bullshit. Forget the scholars and scientists saying it is all a hoax. I rather believe them.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1179807', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tundra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tundra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;NO! If you Partition you will be able to allow everyone to have their weapons yet be Partitioned at the same time.&lt;/em&gt;

The problem with that is the different groups live in the same neighborhoods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>NO! If you Partition you will be able to allow everyone to have their weapons yet be Partitioned at the same time.</em></p>
<p>The problem with that is the different groups live in the same neighborhoods.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1179799', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tundra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tundra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;After all, it supposedly crashed into the ground, thus everything should have been in one spot.&lt;/em&gt;

I believe the debris field was around 5 miles long. There is a big difference between a trained pilot crashing and doing everything they can to salvage the people on board, and a group pent on destruction forcing a plane at a high rate of speed into the ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>After all, it supposedly crashed into the ground, thus everything should have been in one spot.</em></p>
<p>I believe the debris field was around 5 miles long. There is a big difference between a trained pilot crashing and doing everything they can to salvage the people on board, and a group pent on destruction forcing a plane at a high rate of speed into the ground.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1179796', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta go, thanks for the thoughts and challenges</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta go, thanks for the thoughts and challenges<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1179794', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juan, 

for you

&lt;a href=&quot;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7501020220921158523&amp;q=penn+%26+teller&amp;hl=en&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Penn &amp; Teller&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juan, </p>
<p>for you</p>
<p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7501020220921158523&amp;q=penn+%26+teller&amp;hl=en" rel="nofollow">Penn &amp; Teller</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1179793', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/24/iraq-goes-from-bad-to-worse/comment-page-2/#comment-1179792</link>
		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#93, OK, good point. But remember, rifles can fire over walls and shovels can go under them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#93, OK, good point. But remember, rifles can fire over walls and shovels can go under them.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1179792', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juan,

Penn &amp; Teller did a good show about it too. Check it out on google video. (No, I am not kidding)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juan,</p>
<p>Penn &amp; Teller did a good show about it too. Check it out on google video. (No, I am not kidding)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1179789', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Juan C</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/24/iraq-goes-from-bad-to-worse/comment-page-2/#comment-1179784</link>
		<dc:creator>Juan C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those United airplanes looked really dark to me. Almost black with no visible windows. Loose Change is a good movie about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those United airplanes looked really dark to me. Almost black with no visible windows. Loose Change is a good movie about it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1179784', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/24/iraq-goes-from-bad-to-worse/comment-page-2/#comment-1179779</link>
		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#88, All I know from FACT is (1) that I watched as one plane crashed into the WTC and (2) I man that I literally trust with my life was at the Pentagon when it was hit and what he say was unmistakably a plane.

#90, Checking the debris field for me would do no good. Not my area of expertise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#88, All I know from FACT is (1) that I watched as one plane crashed into the WTC and (2) I man that I literally trust with my life was at the Pentagon when it was hit and what he say was unmistakably a plane.</p>
<p>#90, Checking the debris field for me would do no good. Not my area of expertise.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1179779', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#87, I do not know if segmenting would work at this point? A year or two ago. Probably. Now it woudl be very difficult to do with Iraq in its current state. IF you could do it, you would have to also concider disarming the population, minus military and police. But IF you could get it to happen, I think it would be the most benificial way to save lies on all 3 sides. Ours, the Insurgents, and most importantly, the civilians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#87, I do not know if segmenting would work at this point? A year or two ago. Probably. Now it woudl be very difficult to do with Iraq in its current state. IF you could do it, you would have to also concider disarming the population, minus military and police. But IF you could get it to happen, I think it would be the most benificial way to save lies on all 3 sides. Ours, the Insurgents, and most importantly, the civilians.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1179771', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Briseadh na Faire</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/24/iraq-goes-from-bad-to-worse/comment-page-2/#comment-1179763</link>
		<dc:creator>Briseadh na Faire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and you might want to check out the size of the debris field from flight 93, then decide for yourself if it crash landed into the ground (the official story) or was blown up in the air.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and you might want to check out the size of the debris field from flight 93, then decide for yourself if it crash landed into the ground (the official story) or was blown up in the air.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1179763', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#82,&lt;em&gt;Hey, by the way, I like the discussion now vs. the absolutes that were going on before. Nice job representing your pointâ€¦&lt;/em&gt; 
 thanks, by the way</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#82,<em>Hey, by the way, I like the discussion now vs. the absolutes that were going on before. Nice job representing your pointâ€¦</em><br />
 thanks, by the way<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1179760', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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