Rep. Tancredo: Bush Wants To Merge U.S. With Mexico and Canada
Rep. Tancredo: Bush Wants To Merge U.S. With Mexico and Canada
Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO), one of the leading voices on immigration for the right, claims President George W. Bush is plotting to merge the U.S. with Mexico and Canada. An excerpt from WorldNetDaily:
Tancredo lashed out at the White House’s lack of action in securing U.S. borders, and said efforts to merge the U.S. with both Mexico and Canada is not a fantasy.
“I know this is dramatic — or maybe somebody would say overly dramatic — but I’m telling you, that everything I see leads me to believe that this whole idea of the North American Union, it’s not something that just is written about by right-wing fringe kooks. It is something in the head of the president of the United States, the president of Mexico, I think the prime minister of Canada buys into it. …
You might think the right would immediately repudiate this kind of conspiracy theory. You’d be wrong. The National Review’s Andy McCarthy came to Tancredo’s defense:
This is not a fringe. It’s a wave. It’s fine to disagree with Rep. Trancredo; it’s wrong to treat him like a lunatic when he is anything but.
[I]t’s not unreasonable for people to look at Bush’s immigration policies and worry that he is insufficiently alert to the internationalist pressures (what John Fonte calls “transnational progressivism”) vigorously challenging the traditional understanding of sovereignty on many fronts.
Fox’s Neil Cavuto recently said Tancredo “owns” the issue of immigration predicted that “if he were to run for president, he just might well be president.”
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Canada join the U.S.? Uhh, no thanks. We’re not interested.
November 24th, 2006 at 11:38 amI’d say “That’s it, I’m moving to Canada”, except, well I guess that would work anymore would it?
November 24th, 2006 at 11:38 amhaha hah ha ha ha ha ha—–
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November 24th, 2006 at 11:51 amWhat’s the matter Rep Tancredo? Not getting enough attention? I wonder if he makes up this crap all by himself, or with aid of “holiday cheer?”
November 24th, 2006 at 11:52 amBlatant IMPERIALISM anyone? What a charlatan W actually is if this is accurate. I wonder how the Canadians feel about being associated with a country such as ours?
November 24th, 2006 at 11:54 ammmm…Tancredo, news for you, take a walk on Mexico cities streets. US already owns Mexico.
November 24th, 2006 at 11:55 amTancredo is just that:”tanked” and trying to vie for attention….whatsa matter boobala - everyone ignoring you now that you’re a lame duck? Ahhhhhhhh my widdle heart bleeds…
November 24th, 2006 at 11:55 amI think Canadians and Mexican should be deeply worried that we might be imposing democracy on them real quickly now.
November 24th, 2006 at 11:56 amA little off topic, but nonetheless…
There is an old latinamerican joke:
November 24th, 2006 at 12:02 pmQ: Why there arent military coups in US?
Answer: Because in the US there arent US embassies. Ha!
Actually that’s not such a bad idea. With the electoral college votes we would get from Canada and Mexico the Democratic Party could have a permanent lock on the White House. There’s no way a Republican wins either of those two states…um, I mean countries.
November 24th, 2006 at 12:03 pmRUCerious: As a Canadian, I’m really not worried. Remember: We’re the only ones who have ever burned down your White House (Note: I’m not advocating this, just recounting an historical fact.). We took Vimy Ridge (WWI) in one afternoon when the imperial powers of both France and England hadn’t been able to do it after about six months. Just ’cause we’re stubborn, really, and we get even more stubborn when something’s presented to us as a challenge (as in: “You’d never be able to do that.” “Oh, yeah? Just watch me.”)
Then again, I would expect a rational thinker to come up with this… and it’s not like the Bush administration was thinking rationally before they invaded Iraq, eh?
November 24th, 2006 at 12:08 pmthose two states…um, I mean countries.
Comment by Robert
Ha! Good one. But, seriously, if you review US history you will see there is determined effort, economically and militarly (Is that correct?), to take over the whole continent. HINT: US of America.
Correct me if Im wrong. After freeing from George III´s England, US took over the lands of indians because they hadnt signed the peace treatise with them (indians) as George III had. They took over Louisiana, Texas, La Mesilla, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Hawaii, Okinawa…etc. Now, please, will somebody explain me whats that plan for?
November 24th, 2006 at 12:10 pmAnother GOP Kook melts down.
November 24th, 2006 at 12:11 pmNAFTA and CAFTA are??
November 24th, 2006 at 12:14 pmTancredo looks nutty. Got nutty eyes. But I agree with him. The Muslim haters want a super-duper country to fight the Islamic Caliphate with. Ho hum…
November 24th, 2006 at 12:15 pmWhat a dumbass.
November 24th, 2006 at 12:15 pmThere is nothing kooky about this.
For those who know a little history, note that the British Monarchy has been scheming to bring the USA into their little (invisible) Empire ever since the revolution.
By collapsing the US economy, they are about to succeed in that plan.
Note the recent visit of Queen Elizabeth to little embattled bushmonkey.
Bush and his family always were Anglophile traitors to America.
November 24th, 2006 at 12:16 pmRemember: We’re the only ones who have ever burned down your White House
Comment by KiaRioGrl79
And during the War of 1812 you Canadians burned Buffalo to the ground. For that the Sabres will continue to spank the Leafs this year.;) What’s up with burning things to the ground anyway?
November 24th, 2006 at 12:17 pmHave i missed something? Isn’t Tancredo (he who believes in tanning??) simply reitierating that our own multinationals already own most of the corporate infrastructures of those countries??? There are WalMarts and McDonalds in every single state and province in North America. There are numerous financial controls dictated by US/Euro banking regimes HQ’d in NYC. Nearly all of the fossil fuel resources are owned and controlled by Exxon-Chevron-Shell consortiums and processed by ConocoPhillips. US interests own virtually all of the resorts. All that is left really is for Canada to sell some US corp its major liquor industries and for Mexico to finish off selling out its tequilas and beers. Although all of that is already controlled by US importers who dictate prices and access to US markets.
November 24th, 2006 at 12:23 pmTuncredo must be smoking something,Businesses will fight this…You mean corporations will give Mexicans the same rights of insurance,workmen comp.,minimum wage and all other rights?.., who is going to do bricklaying jobs, fruit picking, and other low paying cleaning jobs? corporations and other businesses have to raise prices of products 4 to 5 times…something they will not do and will not support. Tuncredo is playing the scaring game again.
November 24th, 2006 at 12:24 pmHonestly, we Canadians don’t have any weapons of mass destruction. Oh, well we might have some raw material but we have never threatened another nation. Oh, well except for the Danish (I think it’s the Danes I could be wrong and if I am I apologize to the Danes and admonish those to whom I am directing my extreme anger) who believe they own one of our islands in the not so frozen north. We do have oil and gas, which by very little logical extension makes Canada a prime target for Bush and Cheney.
Seriously though, there are people in Western Canada that are all for joining the US. Mostly I believe these people are just fringe nutbars and generally I think the majority of Canadians want to stay Canadian. That not true either because there are a lot of people in Quebec that want to be their own country, and just Wednesday our Prime Minisiter has said that Quebec is “A Nation within Canada”. Whatever the hell that means.
dlet, being a Flames fan I enjoy watching the Sabres spank the center of the universe Leafs. Although (I’m dating myself here) the Sabres will have a long way to go to impress me like they did when they had the French Connection.
November 24th, 2006 at 12:29 pmComment by spyder
Claps. You got everything right, buddy. BTW, I liked that movie. Ralph Fiennes is a great actor.
November 24th, 2006 at 12:31 pmhttp://www.spp.gov/
Last post didn’t show up, if this is a duplicate dont blame me bandwidth soupies. [*^#^**&@!^% crummy blog software]
The U.S. government has housed within the Department of Commerce (DOC) an “SPP office†that is dedicated to organizing the many working groups laboring within the executive branches of the U.S., Mexico and Canada to create the regulatory reality for the Security and Prosperity Partnership. The SPP agreement was signed by Bush, President Vicente Fox, and then-Prime Minister Paul Martin in Waco, Tex., on March 23, 2005.
November 24th, 2006 at 12:36 pmWhy is it that people don’t get the picture.
Globalization = Free Trade = No national borders = EMPIRE = Economic and political slavery
A few thousand rich families (the financial oligarchy, the same ones that ruled the world from Europe for most of modern history), will put us all back under the boot heel where we were before America stood up and threw off their corrupt and stinking physiocratic toilet of a system.
We are headed for a dark age, right now, unless people like this man are listened to seriously by the sheople out there.
November 24th, 2006 at 12:39 pmA few thousand rich families (the financial oligarchy, the same ones that ruled the world from Europe for most of modern history), will put us all back under the boot heel where we were before America stood up and threw off their corrupt and stinking physiocratic toilet of a system.
We are headed for a dark age, right now, unless people like this man are listened to seriously by the sheople out there.
Comment by RAL
umm RAL Bush IS part of that oligarchy, remember the guy the Conservatives backed for President?
November 24th, 2006 at 12:57 pmTancredo is nuts. These comments don’t even enter into his top five of crazy things to say.
November 24th, 2006 at 1:09 pmCanada Eh? Mike Myers for President, Jim Carrey for VP, Pamela Anderson Secretary of Defense, Kim Cattrall Secretary of State, Neil Young Secretary of Health etc etc etc
November 24th, 2006 at 1:13 pmIt’s kinda odd that very powerful forces have proposed joining the U.S. with the other two countries, and there’s even a government agency that’s moving in that direction: spp.gov
If this plan doesn’t exist, one wonders what spp.gov is up to. Perhaps Judd could tell us next time.
November 24th, 2006 at 1:14 pmNAFTA already merged the US with Mexico and Canada, why GOP politicians are so ignorant ??
November 24th, 2006 at 1:45 pm“Tuncredo must be smoking something,Businesses will fight this…You mean corporations will give Mexicans the same rights of insurance,workmen comp.,minimum wage and all other rights?.., who is going to do bricklaying jobs, fruit picking, and other low paying cleaning jobs? corporations and other businesses have to raise prices of products 4 to 5 times…something they will not do and will not support. Tuncredo is playing the scaring game again.
Comment by tarazan — November 24, 2006 @ 12:24 pm”
Use your brain. Mexican benefits won’t rise to US or Canadian standards in a New World Order. US and Canadian worker benefits will drop to Mexican (or below) standards. Like Duh!
This will be a corporate dictatorship and the “common people” are as disposable as sheets of toilet paper off a roll. Ask yourself, “Where have all the Unions gone?”
November 24th, 2006 at 1:48 pmI have absolutely nothing wrong with making one large country out of Canada, US and Mexico.
Having said that:
November 24th, 2006 at 1:51 pm1) I’d appreciate being informed about it BEFORE it happens. It would be a nice change of pace for the government.
2) I don’t want the current administration (we’re stuck with them for 2 more years) to have any say in how it’s structured.
8,
What was that joke- “Do as we say or we’ll bring you democracy”
A single north american superstate? Perhaps America and Canada (except Quebec) share a common culture, but America and Mexico???
Besides, a united US/Canada would naturally tilt leftwards compared to the current US administration… hardly a bad thing
November 24th, 2006 at 2:00 pmAnd yet the GOP has been in control for the better part since 1994 and just now Tancredo is pandering to the ‘base’?
More Hypocrisy from the Hypocrite party…
November 24th, 2006 at 2:01 pmA single north american superstate? Perhaps America and Canada (except Quebec) share a common culture, but America and Mexico???
Comment by Prince Myshkin — November 24, 2006 @ 2:00 pm
You’ve never been to LA have you? San Diego? El Paso? Most towns in the SouthWest is more influenced by Mexican culture than any other culture (and that includes “American Culture” whatever that means)
November 24th, 2006 at 2:12 pmNo, what they will do is the same thing they are doing with Social Security and the Illegal Immigration issues,,,They will say there are too many people to give these rights and privliges too and say we need to “reform†health insurance,workmen’s comp, and the minimum wage.
With Social Security they are already saying there will be too many people by such and such a date and the baby boomers–bla freakin bla…..
Comment by ren — November 24, 2006 @ 2:07 pm
And we DON’T need to reform SS, Health Insurance, workmens comp and the minimum wage.. Is that it? You think they’re working fine as is?
November 24th, 2006 at 2:16 pmI love it: “President George W. Bush is plotting to merge the U.S. with Mexico and Canada”
This has been known for three years…where the hell has this asshole been? Everyone should watch “TerrorStorm” free on Google video so all can know whats in store for our future.
http://video.google.com/ videoplay?docid=786048453686176230&q=Terrorstorm&hl=en
November 24th, 2006 at 2:20 pm35,
Sure. Why didn’t i think of that?
Come to think of it, it’s hard to think of a single, unified American culture- some places are similar to Canada, some Mexican/Hispanic, others are uniquely American…
In other words, America is already really diverse. Would the addition of Canada and Mexico make much of a cultural impact at all? Apart from fuelling right wing hysteria that is.
I know my points don’t correlate too well, but this is a discussion forum after all…
November 24th, 2006 at 2:25 pmregardless of any conjecture on what the Canadian PM may think about becoming part of the US, I can assure all, as a Canadian who continually travels this country far and wide, that the only way we would become part of the US is to be invaded and then defeated in a war……and if you think it would be passive, (ya know, like Rummy said about Iraq), you need to think harder . I , personally would spill my blood to resist becoming a part of your clown show.
November 24th, 2006 at 2:25 pmYou’ve heard discussion of a Canadian identity? That’s It! WE ARE NOT AMERICANS, hated & reviled the world over.
Make all the fun you want, but HOW DARE ANY OF YOU even think we are as ignorant and sheep-like as the general US populace.
Well, yeah, Tancredo owns it like Lieberman owns the partisan polarization canard because assclowns like Cavuto allow him to own it.
November 24th, 2006 at 2:25 pmThis is something I read about months ago. The spp.gov site is the “official” information site, but the “superhighway” linking Mexico with Canada has already begun, land acquired, and in early stages of construction.
November 24th, 2006 at 2:33 pmThe American people scoff at the notion, and I hope they are right and I am wrong, but the nutcase, Tancredo, comes closer to what I have been reading. The MSM has barely acknowledged the super highway - it flies in the face of securing the borders - but it is proof that border security is not a high priority. Semitrucks of freight travelling in a N/S direction from somewhere near Laredo, TX and splitting into 2 highways near Minnesota.
I hope someone here can provide more information on this - if all this is so, I see us all headed downward into serf-like status and the lords will be the corporate ownership.
35,
Sure. Why didn’t i think of that?
Come to think of it, it’s hard to think of a single, unified American culture- some places are similar to Canada, some Mexican/Hispanic, others are uniquely American…
In other words, America is already really diverse. Would the addition of Canada and Mexico make much of a cultural impact at all? Apart from fuelling right wing hysteria that is.
I know my points don’t correlate too well, but this is a discussion forum after all…
Comment by Prince Myshkin — November 24, 2006 @ 2:25 pm
My problem with discussions like this is it always comes down to this:
Candians who think it might be a good idea think they should run the show
Mexicans who think it’s a good idea think THEY should run the show.
Americans who think it’s a good idea think THEY should run the show
Everyone else think that it’s tantamount to an invasion that will suck all the fun things out of their culture and ruin their country.
They’re all wrong. There’s nothing inherently wrong with the idea of Mexico, the US and Canada merging, and more than there was anything wrong with the 13 original colonies merging to become the United States. You know that the ‘discussion’ over what the structure of the US would be almost dissolved into a giant fistfight on more than one occasion.
The trick is HOW it’s done, and I don’t trust the political climates in any of the three countries involved to do it right.
November 24th, 2006 at 2:36 pm42,
We agree that the American culture is too diverse to be united even in the one country? As you pointed out, Cali is more Hispanic, Michigan similar to Canada…
So can we unify them all into one superstate? How much independence do each of the component countries get? I know that was a major issue for the founding members of the US. Are people in the US so attached to being ‘American’- regardless of how difficult that is to define- that they would be unable to handle an administration comprised of all three countries?
November 24th, 2006 at 2:52 pmI think this is a red herring.
But on the other hand methinks, que es el problemo?
Then again, the conspiracy side of me wonders if this is bush’s ultimate powernet solution. 1) It solves the illegal alien problem in that it would make the Mexicans legal aliens (you have to think on that one to see the exploitative foundation), 2) Military members who refuse to serve in the coming Iran invasion would have no easy place to escape to, and 3) Canada is filled with natural resources that can then be easily stolen.
Peace.
November 24th, 2006 at 2:57 pmHow could they possibly sell this to the Canadian people? If the Canadian people have any say in this it would never happen.
November 24th, 2006 at 2:58 pmThose who voted for this gas bag,Ihope you are all happy now.
November 24th, 2006 at 3:02 pmInteresting comments from so-called progressives. Nationalism is just another ugly prejudice, one notch away from racism. There seems to be alot of it here.
Globalization, in THEORY, is supposed to create a better world for everyone, regardless of race or nation - that’s a very progressive idea. In PRACTICE, because greed is still so ingrained in so many, globalization fails miserably. What we need is technology! We need Technology to create so much food, energy, and so on, and the means to distribute them that greed has no place in the mix. We need to get to the point where greed doesn’t equal more money, which doesn’t equal more power.
That’ll never happen as long as we view each other as members of this tribe/nation or that one, us versus them.
November 24th, 2006 at 3:03 pmThis North American Union is not made up or bull, I have been following it for a while. There are highly placed officials that attend the meetings and they are mostly big business with a few government officials,but they do not report to the public. This movement gets around loop holes to not report to the public.
November 24th, 2006 at 3:08 pmMost Canadians would fight to the death if given the chance to stop the idea of being more integrated with the U.S.
Yes, this claim doesn’t seem to be made up, there are individuals who want an north american union. Libertarian Ron Paul (R) has spoken some about it.
November 24th, 2006 at 3:16 pmPersonally I’m against it, just as I’m against deeper federalism in Europe trough EU.
3) Canada is filled with natural resources that can then be easily stolen.
You mean easier than it is now?
As a Canadian, it is worse to have a democratic US government as they where successful in making it easier to take our resources. Of course, having a republican US government, as they have acted in the last 6 years, is far worse for the world. At any rate, the protectionism in the US has been nothing but trouble for Canada in spite of, or perhaps because of, the free trade agreements. Just my view and of course my view may not be correct but there you have it.
November 24th, 2006 at 3:20 pmJeeves, LOL, aren’t you naive?
There is NO end to the greed people have. Technology to supply so much that greed is irrelevant???? Who are you kidding? That has to be the most ridiculous idea of the century. Not only can’t technology ever fill the bottomless pit of greedy people and corporations, but even if it would try then it would be a disaster for the enviroment and earth as a whole. We’ve probably already destroyed our planet, but do you want to ensure that we do?
Globalization in the context of the real world would mean one thing and one thing only. A corporate fascist dictatorship and enslavement of the masses. Get your head out of your ass.
November 24th, 2006 at 3:28 pmCanada annexed by the US? All UR Tim Horton’s R belong 2 US! Woot! woot!
November 24th, 2006 at 3:32 pmHa. You can have Timmy and his donuts.
November 24th, 2006 at 3:46 pm#32 - Yes.
November 24th, 2006 at 3:47 pmMéxico in not interested in being part of the USA, ask Puerto Rico.
November 24th, 2006 at 3:51 pmJeeves, LOL, aren’t you naive?
There is NO end to the greed people have. Technology to supply so much that greed is irrelevant???? Who are you kidding? That has to be the most ridiculous idea of the century. Not only can’t technology ever fill the bottomless pit of greedy people and corporations, but even if it would try then it would be a disaster for the enviroment and earth as a whole. We’ve probably already destroyed our planet, but do you want to ensure that we do?
Globalization in the context of the real world would mean one thing and one thing only. A corporate fascist dictatorship and enslavement of the masses. Get your head out of your ass.
Comment by nostrafarious — November 24, 2006 @ 3:28 pm
While we’re at it, let’s dismantle all the nations of the world into their component state/provinces. This way we’ll have thousands of ‘countries’ all shouting at each other and waging war on each other instead of a little over a hundred.
What the hell are you talking about? Using your philosophy, there shouldn’t be any sort of unification. The very foundation of civilization is that a group of people can do more for everyone than each of them can do on their own. Either that is a valid concept or it isn’t. If it isn’t then every individual on the planet should be a ’soveriegn country’ and no one should look out for anyone but their own backside. If it is a valid concept then unification is not only a good idea, it is probably inevitable. Sure there are stupid ways to do it and some of those are being tried as we speak, but I’d rather figure out ways to accomplish it than say “It will never work” Because every single country in the world is one example of how it CAN work.
November 24th, 2006 at 3:55 pmWow did you miss the point…You could argue that they need “reformâ€, I guess…But..If you are going to “reform†these systems then you need to do it to make them better, NOT the reform that big businesses and republicans are talking about,,,which is privatizing and minimizing and thinning out these systems. That is what the republicans and big businesses will do under the guise of “reformâ€.
Comment by ren — November 24, 2006 @ 2:38 pm
November 24th, 2006 at 4:01 pmI didn’t miss your point, you’re comparing apples to oranges. We need to fix certain things in the United States and if something like a merging of Mexico, Canada and the US will highlight that, then it isn’t necessarily a bad idea. It will spell out that we really need to fix things and THEN we try to figure out how to fix those things. I don’t know if it was your intention, but you just argued FOR the merger.
In the words of the National Review, “Tom Tancredo is an idiot.”
November 24th, 2006 at 4:10 pmI found this: tinyurl.com/y2jwhy
U.S.-Mexico relations could remain paralyzed unless leaders of the two nations and Canada formalize a North American partnership — akin to the European Union — before the U.S. baby boomer retirement wave hits in the next eight years, a ranking Mexican diplomat [Enrique Berruga, Mexico’s ambassador to the United Nations] said here Tuesday.
Even when they come out and say what they want, sites like Think Progress will dispute it.
November 24th, 2006 at 4:12 pmUnification has to work for all parties concerned for it to last. (For ex. - why did the Soviet Union break up?) In theory, it could work.
To just trust that the ‘unifying’ parties have all of our interests in mind seems naive to me.
November 24th, 2006 at 4:12 pm[…] Link: Rep. Tancredo: Bush Wants To Merge U.S. With Mexico and Canada […]
November 24th, 2006 at 4:18 pm10 new states from what was mexico and 8 from what was once Canada
November 24th, 2006 at 4:33 pmUSofNA
Unites States of North America…gonna need a new flag with 70 stars on it
I guess most of you have not heard of the North American Union, a quasi-treaty Bush created with Mexico and Canada; includes the NAFTA Superhighway on steroids, which in Texas is called the Trans-Texas Corridor, and goes all the way from ports in western Mexico to Canada. I first heard about the whole picture from seeing Marci Kaptur talk about it on Cspan some months back. The purpose of the SPP is to create a TRADE union between the three countries, and it was not approved by Congress. http://salon.glenrose.net/somnewsttc.asp
TTC (Trans-Texas Corridor) is taking people’s land through eminent domain for the benefit of a private company which will be leasing and running a TOLL road -that company is from Spain, Cintra.
Now, I do think Tancredo is an extremist but Bush was doing this union behind America’s back.
November 24th, 2006 at 4:36 pmI’ll let everyone else be the judge of what I said, and I am obviously not arguing for the merger retard. And I will let everyone else judge who is more clear on the topic, yourself or me.
Comment by ren — November 24, 2006 @ 4:16 pm
It’s amazing how many otherwise intelligent people on this site can’t resist name calling.
#65 cof - I believe that is exactly what we are talking about, although I notice the name is slightly different depending on who’s talking about it. I think it’s a bad idea, but apparently not for the same reasons many others here do… mostly because it was conceived by Mr Shrub.
November 24th, 2006 at 4:48 pmCrusade, don’t forget the 3 northern territories!! Bush wants them for the missile defense shield.
November 24th, 2006 at 5:17 pmWhen are WE really going to take back our country? Who cares what Bush wants as he is employed by us, we the people, of the people, by the people, for the people….
Once upon a time 8th graders had to memorize the Preamble to the constitution:
‘We the People of the United States, in order to form a more perfect Union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty, to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.’
It should not be a question of what direction Bush who was never truly elected, has botched up everything he has ever laid his finger on, but a question of which direction WE the People want to go in.
November 24th, 2006 at 5:31 pm64. Canada has no states and what are these 8 things of which you speak?
November 24th, 2006 at 6:07 pmCanada has 10 provinces and 3 northern territories last time I checked my grade 4 geograpphy book.
geography*
November 24th, 2006 at 6:31 pmMexico join the USA? Uggh… no thanks….we’re not interested!
November 24th, 2006 at 6:41 pmTancredo is correct. The US-Canada-Mexico merger is going to happen unless consciously opposed.
November 24th, 2006 at 7:05 pmIt is something in the head of the president of the United States, the president of Mexico, I think the prime minister of Canada buys into it. …
Small point, but “I think…” is ok in a post or comment I might make, but not coming from a legislator. They shouldn’t make such statements unless “they know” it for fact.
November 24th, 2006 at 7:09 pmRep. Tancredo is NOT an advocate of the North American Union scheme. He is getting the word out to warn us. We need to wake up and stop the corporate globalists that control our government from making us slaves.
November 24th, 2006 at 7:26 pmDear Leader Tancredo. Naww it don’t sound right.
lets do some deep transcendental fractal deep wave critical thinking
(like they do at AEI)
Fear Leader Tancredo
Wow just one consonant swap, using our highly attuned collegiate cash oriented reptilian mouth breathing brains we solved the problem!!
November 24th, 2006 at 7:29 pmYaY Oh YaY!
See? Think Tanks are valuable!!
They could have made you a slave a long time ago, so I mean really if they enslaved you the economy would go Kahhpoot. And we all know the GOP is $$$mad.
But really if you cannot accomplish world peace thru war how so then?
Trade?
Become Isolationists?
War is not the preffered method of Democracy.
Democracy is based basically Capitalism.
I am open to Ideas but what better way to defeat your enemy than to make him your friend?
November 24th, 2006 at 7:34 pmLMFAO
Cavuto is so fricking insane.
November 24th, 2006 at 7:42 pm#65
November 24th, 2006 at 8:46 pmThanks for validating that I am not remembering falsely concerning the super highway and that this has been done without congressional approval.
Tancredo is another deluded, no-nothing clown who doesn’t understand that the Canadian PM heads a minority government that could be thrown out well within a year.
November 24th, 2006 at 9:09 pmNeil Cavuto? WTF? Gimme a break.
In Canada we have a parlaimentary system that I know that Americans could never understand. The leader of the governing party would have to stand up to questioning from the opposition everyday that the government is in session. Now, could you imagine Bush having to face the opposition everyday. My god, didn’t he have something like only 9 press conferences in his fist couple of years in power. I know Canadians would never tolerate the American cogressional system. And what about Health. I think it is wonderful that every Canadian can walk into a hospital or clinic and receive treatment. We gave up on that private healthcare thing 50 yrs. ago. I feel that the average american could not put up with our liberal ways in Canada, where what we consider conservative would be called a flaming democrat in the US.
November 24th, 2006 at 9:53 pmBill C. You are smart. Yes, that was sarcasm.
November 24th, 2006 at 11:16 pm84.
November 25th, 2006 at 12:19 amFair enough…as long as we’re clear.
Google North American Union and the SUPERHIGHWAY - bush has already begun this - LOOK IT UP!!!!
November 25th, 2006 at 1:30 amjust when you thought they couldnt get any nuttier ,the RWers prove to us that whatever the season , we’ll be provided w/ plenti-o-laughs. What is the word to describe them: delusional? insane?…’unhinged’, I think, works best.
November 25th, 2006 at 4:06 amFREEEEEEDOMMMMM
Blair warns SNP win could lead to break-up of United Kingdom
The Prime Minister has launched a pre-emptive strike against the Scottish National Party as he warned that an SNP victory in next year’s elections would plunge Britain into a “constitutional nightmare”.
He focused his fire on the nationalists days before the SNP attempts to strike a new blow against the Government’s stance on Iraq at the end of the Queen’s Speech debate on Monday.
More than 100 MPs have signed a joint SNP-Plaid Cymru amendment to the Queen’s Speech calling on Mr Blair to come to the Commons with a new strategy for dealing with the Iraq crisis.
Also Bush was in the tabloid paper saying Scotland should not be free - THAT MEANS WE WANT FREEDOM MORE THAN EVER and we are winning by 55% as tp labour 35% and LIBS 10% ……… we hate conservatives in Scotland …………FREEEEEEEDOMMMMM
November 25th, 2006 at 5:57 amIt matters not if one is left or right, the New World Order is being established behind our backs. This plan for the North American Union is being carried out by the corporate globalists that control Bushco.
Google the term ‘Amero’ and see where it leads you…
November 25th, 2006 at 6:27 amGo to Google and type in “North American Union….”
November 25th, 2006 at 7:00 amDoes anyone out there have any information on the SPP that ISN’T from aright-wing nutjob web site? Not that I’m saying this isn’t the start of something that might turn into a North American Union, but so far all I see is just NAFTA II.
November 25th, 2006 at 7:55 amIt matters not if one is left or right, the New World Order is being established behind our backs. This plan for the North American Union is being carried out by the corporate globalists that control Bushco.
Google the term ‘Amero’ and see where it leads you…
Comment by Smedley Butler — November 25, 2006 @ 6:27 am
Cry me a river. International corporations have been in charge for decades, and you think THIS is the last straw? Globalization is NOT the enemy. Corporations are. Just like government didn’t get us into the Iraq war, the Republicans did.
November 25th, 2006 at 7:58 amOn globalization:
Think for a minute how definitive your identity is with your significant other (if you inded ahve a significant other). Now compare that to the lesser or slightly more dilluted sense of identity you have with your larger family. Now compare that to the lesser or slight more dilluted sense of identity you have within your larger community. Now compare that to the lesser or slightly dilluted sense of identity you have wihin your larger group of a city; and then within your state; and then withing your country. By the point of country you can easily see how more and more meaningless one becomes has the group we asscoiate ourselves with grows larger and larger. In a world of 6 billion how important do you honestly think you will be, how much voice will you have on that scale compared to your voice among your loved ones and immediate community. A globalized new world order is not only bad for the identity of an individual, it also a quick way to create the most bland life experience for all, a homgenized world. A patchwork or quilt like assemblance of world order will be the more fufilling chioce for all of us. A new world order will only enhace those who already possess power and wealth and further sperate the divide between rich and poor.
November 25th, 2006 at 7:58 amIn many ways we’d be better off without borders — they only serve the corporate ruling class and divide us as laborers (by wages . . .).
Big Business relies on and profit from national boundaries as long as they don’t impede the flow of capital from south to north so I doubt that they would go along with the plan. The right-wing will use racism, xenophobia and anti-immigrant hatred to build opposition and to keep us divided for low wages. In any case, this kind of expansion will not save an unsustainable system.
November 25th, 2006 at 8:12 amTancredo may be nuts but for all practical purposes he is right. The super highway out of mexico through the central part of the US is just the next step.
November 25th, 2006 at 8:19 amBush had best be reminded that the last time we messed with Canada they burned the White House down.
November 25th, 2006 at 11:13 amROFL! Jesus, some Christian terrorists are amusing. This one’s turned on his own Fuhrer because of his delusional insanity.
November 25th, 2006 at 12:51 pmCanadians by far don’t want to join with the States. We have our own identity, health services and pension plans. We don’t want these interferred with by the U.S. Anyway, we have too much National Pride to want to align permanently with America.
November 25th, 2006 at 7:03 pmIt might be in GW Bushes head and God knows what else is inside his head but, you really believe he’s going to do this before he’s booted out in 2008? Bush is almost gone thank God!! If he was going to do this and wanted this I think things would be more in motion.
After all we are dealing with Bush and what’s inside his head. What should be happening is Impeachment. Bush should be on trial for war crimes. With the USA spending 250 million a day on a War we might have to merge with Mexico & Canada to keep us out of the Hellish Dept we face after Bush is out of the White House.
What he has done will be felt for all our children & theirs. It’s so wrong and in a very dark way just pure evil all Bush has done.
November 26th, 2006 at 5:43 amYeah, I’ve seen the lavender helicopters.
November 26th, 2006 at 9:57 amAs a Canadian, over my dead body, literally. And most of you discussing it like we would just accept it….Think again.
November 26th, 2006 at 11:32 am[…] Think Progress has a post up about this. […]
November 26th, 2006 at 12:58 pmExplain the plan to introduce the Amero.
Explain the plan to create a Superhighway from Canada to Mexico.
The left is full of shills just like the right.
November 26th, 2006 at 4:13 pm“Canada join the U.S.? Uhh, no thanks. We’re not interested.”
Comment by Dave Rywall — November 24, 2006 @ 11:38 am
i dont know about that, 51% of ontario voted that it would like to become the 51st state…
November 26th, 2006 at 6:48 pmI have often wondered if Think Progress is a C.I.A. “spook” website.
check out the facts about “North American Union ” on the internet.
it’s gonna happen gang!
more at:
http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=6Ne1_Hf0Yqo&mode=related&search=
Speak up or be enslaved tomorrow!
November 26th, 2006 at 8:06 pmUs crazy constitutionalists have been talking about this for years. Obviously, the fulfillment of such a plan is a ways off, but you’d better start watching the watchers and what they are doing behind the scenes without public oversight.
You can start here:
NASCO Corridor
And here:
Security and Prosperity Partnership Of North America
And here:
CFR - Building a North American Community
The most important thing to discover is not so much that it is happening, but who the benefactors of such an arrangement will be. You can be sure that it does not include 99.9% of you.
November 26th, 2006 at 10:00 pmI do believe this theory…….very scary.
November 26th, 2006 at 10:18 pmThis is all true.
November 26th, 2006 at 10:37 pmThey have been terming this ‘idea’ of merging Canada and Mexico to the United States the ‘North American Union’.
The game is already in play.
They are currently constructing the N.A.F.TA. Super Highway in Texas. This will reach from Mexico straight up through the U.S. into Canada. Thus attaching the 3 places together and forming a new Country essentially. The reasons sound like conspiracy theories, but it appears we are on a very strange road right now. And it looks like the completion of the Super Highway will be on or about 2010. I guess we’ll all learn then what the Bush’s have in store for us.
I think David Bowie had it mostly right when he wrote the song ‘I’m afraid of Americans’. Except it should have been ‘America’ instead.
When did our country turn into this?
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Thanks. I’ve seen some videos of Tarpley and Alex Jones and others. It’s like a friggin’ lightswitch.
You watch these guys for a year on and off.
See the evidence they provide.
The logical thinking. The scientific criteria.
Then, one day the other side of your brain starts chatting with the side you’ve been (under) using and the eyes grow three sizes larger.
It smacked me in the face about 6 months ago. I’ve been trying to absorb as much as possible on issues like this one.
So, sorry if i have a factoid or two incorrect. There’s just so friggin’ much.
Did you know that Kennedy had some of his presidential ‘doodles’ published in a book recently?
Interestingly, one of these pages of ‘doodles’ included two rectangles upright with two triangular shapes aimed at them. Also scribbled below that was 11/9 and 9/11 and ‘conspiracy?’
I saw a scanned version of that page of the book and i am now looking for it to buy for myself.
That Kennedy thing may mean nothing at all. But, it’s really quite interesting to look at. I know Kennedy had something to do with Operation Northwoods. So, is it really so hard to believe he could have been aware of a future plot to do just what was done to us on 9/11? The ‘doodles’ suggest just that.
Again, how did our Country turn into this?
November 26th, 2006 at 10:52 pmbut, you really believe he’s going to do this before he’s booted out in 2008?
Comment by Mari — November 26, 2006 @ 5:43 am
How do we know Bush is going to let us boot him out in 2008? He and his ilke have been trying for years to remove term limits from the constitution. With the right leverage they just may succeed. If that happens, god help us.
November 26th, 2006 at 10:58 pmAlso, if we are ‘attacked’ in 2008 and Bush declares Martial Law to ‘protect’ the citizens, he will not have to leave office at that time.
[…] Source: Think Progress Posted by Michael Kolanos Filed in Globalization, Congress […]
November 27th, 2006 at 2:00 amlol…what has he been smoking???
November 27th, 2006 at 6:11 amWho is this lunatic?
Damn, I hate it when I agree with you people.
November 27th, 2006 at 10:16 amsovereign local states please… before the Leviathan swallows us whole.
November 27th, 2006 at 2:14 pmFunny how liberal idiots all act the same. Attack, attack, and attack with words and never attack the actual arguement.
Look around at all the Mexicans in your town and go ahead and call Tancredo nuts.
Look at the Mexican truck drivers that will soon be allowed to cross into the USA and take jobs away from your union buddies, democrats.
Democrats are idiots, not Tancredo.
November 27th, 2006 at 11:18 pm[…] From WorldNetDaily via ThinkProgress Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO), one of the leading voices on immigration for the right, claims President George W. Bush is plotting to merge the U.S. with Mexico and Canada. An excerpt from WorldNetDaily: Tancredo lashed out at the White House’s lack of action in securing U.S. borders, and said efforts to merge the U.S. with both Mexico and Canada is not a fantasy. […]
November 28th, 2006 at 12:34 pmWe are way above you, Left-Wingers R Idiots.
November 28th, 2006 at 11:14 pmI was just in Canada (Ontario) this summer for the first time and it was a pain at the border entering Canada they made us go into the building to be interviewed and looked at our ID’s, driver’s licenses, birth cert., social security cards (my mom’s friend didn’t have his birth cert. with him). We crossed at the 1000 Islands Bridge. It was late at night. We came from eastern Pennsylvania where we live. We went to Kingston, Toronto, and Niagara Falls. It was my first time ever in a foreign country (I was born Jan. 1974) I was never on a plane. My mom went to Cancun, Mexico years ago and she and her friend went to Niagara Falls several years ago so this was her second time there and me and my brother’s first time. My original father passed away Mar. 1986 and my mom dated a few years later, this is the second man that is living with us since beginning 1994 (I live at home and don’t drive) My mom met him in a club around 1993. The first man my mom went with 1990-1992 actually passed away a few years ago. I loved Canada, the 1000 Islands boat ride at Kingston, Toronto and the amusement park on the island with the train ride and scary haunted ride, and Niagara Falls and going through the haunted houses. This Canada/Mexico joining the US thing is news to me. It would be great to be able to go to Canada without a passport because big bad Bush wants to make it law by the year after next to require a passport or similar document to enter or re-enter the US. We never had passports. But if this merging plan goes through, won’t it make the new North American passport thing unnecessary?
December 6th, 2006 at 1:14 amKeep your hands off my tim horten’s you damn dirty ape.
December 13th, 2006 at 3:54 amHugo Chavez (Citgo owner, and despite the Press, a very important dignitary) Bush, and a “diplomatic team representing Canada” Met in New Mexico in 1999 to discuss this..
It all has to do with Citgo Gas, as of late, even though they dont meet the demand, they are the most consistant gas supplier we have..
Cafta, Nafta, free-trade….these are buzz words..
what they mean is that:
“We want OUR corporations to be able to act within US law in YOUR nation, because your developing corporations cannot compete”
This is why COSCO is owned Directly by the Chineese Government, to offset the lack of international competition.
Lets face it, you don’t need soverign borders when your filthy rich and visiting Milan for three weeks….do you?
Stop the Elitists..
Stop the New World Order
Stop the Military Industrial Complex.
people think I coined those phrases….no…its was George H Bush and Dwight Eisenhauer that coined these phrases..
and they were right, these entities do exist, and they do transcend the vote and exist above legislation..
January 5th, 2007 at 9:27 amI hope enough Canadians wake up in time, it’s true we would resist but we would have to know it’s happening before it’s too late, we are very close to being too late…act now and say no Canada! We have laws and prior commitments such as human rights agreements that we can use to back off the current arrangements for the NAU such NAFTA. We need to defend ourselves, stand on our soveriegnty and tell the US if they want our resources they will have to buy on them at fair prices and on our terms…btw there is no doubt our current prime minister-Steven Harper is on board he has been meeting and signing without discussion, debate or consent since he got elected, the opposition has not had a chance to challenge it as it has not been tabled in any way.We must get him out of office asap. But it is the corps that are driving this and they will continue inch by inch no matter who is on unless we are very vigilant and take democracy seriously
January 10th, 2007 at 2:29 amAll I have to say is Antichrist andrevelations…Dont buy into it? Read the Bible, listen to Bible on CD or, watch Left Behind. Everything is happening as it said it would. “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord” -1st Thessalonians 4:16,17
February 7th, 2007 at 12:45 pmThe man has my vote.
February 17th, 2007 at 1:35 am