Drudge Blows It: Latest Attack On Gore’s Global Warming Stance Falls Flat
Drudge Blows It: Latest Attack On Gore’s Global Warming Stance Falls Flat
This morning, the Drudge Report has an enormous headline implying that Al Gore got it wrong in his movie, An Inconvient Truth, when he said that global warming would create more intense storms:
First, Gore never predicted that there would be more storms in 2006. He said that global warming made it more likely that there would be more intense hurricanes in the future.
Second, the fact that there were fewer hurricanes in 2006 does not suggest that global warming is not real or not dangerous. There are other factors — on a year-to-year basis — that can reduce the number and intensity of hurricanes. The article Drudge links to makes it clear that these factors were in play:
Storms were starved for fuel after ingesting masses of dry Saharan dust and air over the Atlantic Ocean. Scientists say the storm-snuffing dust was more abundant than usual this year.
In the season’s peak, storms were curving right like errant field goals. High pressure that normally hunkers near Bermuda shifted far eastward, and five storms rode the clockwise winds away from Florida.
Finally, a rapidly growing El Nino, a warming of water over the tropical Pacific Ocean, shifted winds high in the atmosphere southward. The winds left developing storms disheveled and unable to become organized.
Notably, none of this suggests that future years will be a repeat of 2006. The Saharan dust, for example, may not be around in significant quantities next year. The Tampa Tribune notes, “This year’s uneventful season provides no assurance that next year will be as calm: The Atlantic remains in a 20- to 30-year cycle of high hurricane activity that started in 1995. Water temperatures are above normal.”
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Drudge: stupid or willfully ignorant?
November 27th, 2006 at 10:28 amSo drudge is lying what else is new? And it wont matter to the wingnuts as truth is never a factor in their rantings.
November 27th, 2006 at 10:30 amDid he attack “Happy Feet” Yet?
November 27th, 2006 at 10:31 amBTW: Great movie for kids!
Looks like Drudge ‘blew it’.
November 27th, 2006 at 10:31 amThey do lead the internet in huge bursts of windy bullhsit, however.
Idiot.
November 27th, 2006 at 10:32 amDrudge: stupid or willfully ignorant?
Comment by Publicus
Both.
This has been: simple answers to a simple questions.
November 27th, 2006 at 10:33 amHmm, first they argue that climate changes occur over long periods of time (thousands of years, which I agree with, though I also agree that man kind is changing this.), then they say a short term issue of low hurricane activity this year decides it that global warming is not for real. I’m so confused, is it long term or is it short term that conservatives look at?
November 27th, 2006 at 10:34 amDrudge Blows It
Thats not a headline. That is a daily occurence. A headline would be if he got anything right.
November 27th, 2006 at 10:36 amI’ve been waiting for this, an attack on the science of climate change, based on one season…….
November 27th, 2006 at 10:47 amThe coastal regions dodged a big bullet this year, another bad season could have created tremendous ruin for the whole nation.
We could all be greatful, and use the gift of time to prepare for potentialy worse seasons than 2005.
Ask Mr. Drudge if he is now investing in real estate developement in coastal areas, based on this past seasons number of storms…
“Specious Present” – “A short period of time in which change and duration are alleged to be directly experienced.”
That’s it in a nutshell. Loser Drudge is in the specious present where he alleges to experience global climate change in a single season.
What an ass.
November 27th, 2006 at 10:47 amNotably, none of this suggests that future years will be a repeat of 2007.
You meant 2006.
November 27th, 2006 at 10:48 amJudd,
November 27th, 2006 at 10:49 amHow do we get a repeat of 2007? Did I miss something?
Who is stupider: Drudge or the readers who believe him?
November 27th, 2006 at 10:49 am#7…
November 27th, 2006 at 10:50 amIn my observations, “conservatives” as we know them today, only look at the short term regarding any issue.
I see. One year of moderate hurricane activity is robust statistical evidence that global warming is a myth.
Drudge is a partisan hack and an idiot.
November 27th, 2006 at 10:57 amBy the way, the Mexican/eastern Pacific hurricane cycle was very active; the last one named Sergio, about two weeks ago.
November 27th, 2006 at 10:57 ama family tradition is to go to the movies thanksgiving evening… my mom and one sister – a nun who teaches 4th grade in a catholic school – went to see ‘happy feet’… they commented that they were surprised that the movie had such a distinct message… they thought it was just going to be a happy little cartoon… i wouldn’t let them get negative about it, giving high praise that such a message is reaching the young generation… they agreed and my sister said that she teaches about global warming in her classroom… she has not seen ‘an inconvenient truth’ yet, but after my recommendation she will… i also explained about the wingers who are upset about ‘happy feet’ having such an important message so that she can be ready for those comments… she is a very progressive nun, btw… nothing like the those who ran our school back in the day…
November 27th, 2006 at 11:01 amWho is stupider: Drudge or the readers who believe him?
November 27th, 2006 at 11:01 amComment by RealScientist
By that logic, if Gore is wrong this year, he was right last year. Maybe he can break even?
November 27th, 2006 at 11:04 amAtlantic hurricanes are formed when the Atlantic is warm. The warmer the water, the more potential there is for intense storms. But hurricane formation is also dependent on a number of atmospheric variables. One of the variables that apparently decreases the likelihood of Atlantic hurricanes hitting North America is the El Nino condition in the Pacific. Of course, as most of us know, El Nino is caused by warming of the Pacific.
Both conditions, more intense hurricanes and El Nino, are caused by warmer than normal ocean water. Maybe this simple paradox is just too complex for some right-wingers to grasp.
As Al Gore stated in An Inconvenient Truth, “It’s difficult for people to understand something when their income depends on them not understanding it.”
November 27th, 2006 at 11:08 amHe’s obsessed with global warming, so much so that he makes an idiot of himself.
Dumbass!
November 27th, 2006 at 11:12 amThis morning, the Drudge Report has an enormous headline implying that Al Gore got it wrong in his movie, An Inconvient Truth…
Oh please….it’s DRUDGE.
November 27th, 2006 at 11:12 amDRUDGE = ESTABLISHMENT TOOL
The War on Science continues…
November 27th, 2006 at 11:18 amGlobal Warming is a generally accepted scientific fact. In political circles it has progressed to the level that gun control is: It is an issue that everyone wants to be percieved as doing something about without actually doing anything about because then the issue will go away and they won’t be able to get any votes from it. In the meantime, they have to assure the public that they are not in any immediate danger.
Remember, a politician will say anything to get elected; even the truth.
November 27th, 2006 at 11:21 amThe term “global warming” has too many sylables in it and by default suggest it will take neoKKKons decades to understand the concept.
suffer the ignorant for a time?
November 27th, 2006 at 11:24 amwhether gore “blew it” is a topic not worth discussing.
what is noteworthy: the across-the-board failure to accurately predict a hurricane season with below-average activity. looking back on the preseason predictions, every “expert” forecaster predicted not only greater-than-usual activity but more intense hurricanes. both were flat wrong.
two items of note:
(1) what does the reveal about the forecasters themselves? were they quick on the draw to forecast an over-active season? were the motivated by more than the science? i don’t think it was politics that influenced their predictions — but i wouldn’t be surprised if it was weighty public pressure.
(2) “the boy who cried wolf” scenario. the human toll in new orleans was largely a function of years of hurricane warnings that never materialized. when people are told “the storm is coming!” and it doesn’t, they doubt the accuracy of the forecasters.
although it may not have been a conscious decision to predict such a threatening season, i can’t help but think that the katrina/rita effect, along with all the public discourse about global warming and its effect on hurricanes somehow coaxed the forecasters to put their thumbs on the scale.
November 27th, 2006 at 11:24 amDear Mr. Drudge, It’s called GLOBAL warming, not U.S. warming. So, Atlantic hurricanes didn’t devastate a U.S. city this year, and that means global warming isn’t real?
November 27th, 2006 at 11:27 amThis also discounts the number of storms that have been in the Pacific. How many storms hit China this year? How many hit the pacific coast of Mexico?
November 27th, 2006 at 11:36 amIn Texas, they have a saying:
November 27th, 2006 at 11:41 am“The only people who try to predict the weather are fools or new-comers.”
Richard is spot on. Yes, the Caribe/Gulf was weak in hurricanes this year. But, how many BIG typhoons smashed into the Asian countries? Seems like there has always been a cyclone coming ashore or hovering around all year long.
November 27th, 2006 at 11:44 amtakeabreath
It proves that weather is a statistical science and about 10% of the time a 90% chance of thundershowers results in – no thundershowers.
Lets see what the next ten years bring.
November 27th, 2006 at 11:44 amDrudge the sludge always twists facts into pretzels of lies!
November 27th, 2006 at 11:48 amMy last comment should have read:
Who is stupider: Drudge or the readers who believe him?
Comment by RealScientist
The readers (sludge knows he’s lying)
This has been another: Simple Answers to Simple Questions
November 27th, 2006 at 11:53 amJudd,
How do we get a repeat of 2007? Did I miss something?
Comment by WaltTheMan
Probably just hoping to get to 2008 sooner.
November 27th, 2006 at 11:59 amDrudge is becoming a comical “drudgery”….this guy doesn’t deserve one moment of attention. He has no credibility and is a total zero.
November 27th, 2006 at 12:02 pmtime to boycott jackass drudge!
November 27th, 2006 at 12:03 pm“Ask Mr. Drudge if he is now investing in real estate developement in coastal areas, based on this past seasons number of storms… ”
I would in turn like to ask you how much you invested in oil futures when everyone (here, at least) was positive that oil prices were artificially deflated and would skyrocket after the elections?
November 27th, 2006 at 12:09 pmI used to go to Druge’s website for laughs at his headlines and to see where the trolls get their twisted info from. But then I realized I was giving him traffic. I won’t do it anymore. There is no need to go there at all.
November 27th, 2006 at 12:21 pmThe movie itself emphasizes up and down cycles with an overall upward trend, so how did he get it wrong exactly?
November 27th, 2006 at 12:25 pmI would in turn like to ask you how much you invested in oil futures when everyone (here, at least) was positive that oil prices were artificially deflated and would skyrocket after the elections?
Comment by rob
0$. You?
November 27th, 2006 at 12:26 pm0$. You?
Comment by dlet
Can’t put your money where your mouth is?
November 27th, 2006 at 12:32 pmrob,
How much money do you have invested in munitions, Halliburton, etc., or funds that contain those things?
November 27th, 2006 at 12:37 pmCan’t put your money where your mouth is?
Comment by rob
What the heck does that mean? If I believed that the prices would go up after the elections and I chose not to invest that way that’s my choice. I don’t have to invest in ways or in things that I don’t want to. Your “position” or whatever it is is moronic.
November 27th, 2006 at 12:39 pmEverybody seems to have forgotten about the Pacific. Mexico, where hurricans form off the southern coast, had these same hurricanes turn north/northeast instead of going west. Also, ask the people of China if this was a calm year for typhoon activity!
November 27th, 2006 at 2:05 pmWhat I love is that when Katrina hits or there is an unusually warm day you people let Gore and the rest of the brain dead tree huggers cry “Global Warmingâ€. But is someone else says there is snow in Florida or an unusually cold day so it must not be true you people jump down their throats and scream you can’t pick one day or incident.
Why don’t you call Gore a brain-dead idiot for saying Katrina is caused by global warming? It is just one storm nothing else. No, you people can’t do that, he made a movie out of garbage data.
November 27th, 2006 at 2:06 pmYou could have left the headline as:
Or even better:
November 27th, 2006 at 2:21 pm
Hey Dumby Guy, you do know that Global Warming doesn’t just involve warming right? The name Global Warming is what is wrong. It should be called Global Climate Change. Because some of it is about shEt being too cold.
But, you would rather spew talking point garbage than figure shEt out on your own wouldn’t you.
Good job!
November 27th, 2006 at 2:23 pmWhat I love is that when Katrina hits or there is an unusually warm day you people let Gore and the rest of the brain dead tree huggers cry “Global Warmingâ€
November 27th, 2006 at 2:36 pmComment by Happy Guy — November 27, 2006 @ 2:06 pm
Where, o’ flipping where to begin???
When Katrina hits umm, that’s future tense, so unless there is another Katrina lurking in the vast oceans somewhere, this makes no sense
you people let Gore… Yes, you are correct. WE control everything Gore and his followers do. They cannot even take a sh!t without contacting one of US!
But is someone else says there is snow in Florida or an unusually cold day so it must not be true you people jump down their throats and scream you can’t pick one day or incident. uhhhhhhh, can you say run-on sentences? Obviously Global warming hasn’t thawed out those precious frozen brain cells, eh?
Why don’t you call Gore a brain-dead idiot for saying Katrina is caused by global warming? It is just one storm nothing else. No, you people can’t do that, he made a movie out of garbage data.
Well, I really see no point in calling Gore a brain-dead idiot, but I can call you a brain-dead idiot, for having no clue as to what the hell your debating. I’ll give you a little hint regarding scientific studies…it’s called “collective” data, and when it involves climate studies, that data is taking over decades and centuries, not one specific year.
But hey, thanks for playing
NEXT
I still think Al Gore will be crying that the next Ice Age will be coming in 10 years just as they were doing in the 1920’s, 1950’s, 1970’s. If trends do develop over hundreds or even thousands of years and there was a Mini-Ice Age in the 1300’s-1400’s shouldn’t we still be on a warming trend at this time.
Just as half the globe was once covered in ice, the majority of the ice will melt away for periods of time. The sensationalist media always needs something to get people’s feathers ruffled whether it is sexual predators near the playground, terrorists striking (insert town and state here) tomorrow, or global warming. To take a trend over a couple of decades or even hundreds of years does absolutely nothing to predict the future on this several billion year old rock.
Drudge, like everyone in the media, is basically stuck on stupid. However, a simple look at the temperature trends over several thousand years and we would not be having this conversation again or in another thirty years after the next coming of the Ice Age passes.
November 27th, 2006 at 2:46 pmSo there may have been fewer hurricanes in the Atlantic, but up here in the Pacific Northwest, we’re having record rainfall. The storms have been much more severe than our usual drizzle, and with another .2 of an inch, we will have the wettest month on record. Drudge is a pudge.
November 27th, 2006 at 3:20 pmSounds like you folks are trying to rationalize your beliefs. LOL. You’re in denial.
Well that’s what happens when you hitch your trailer with the global warming hysterics.
November 27th, 2006 at 4:11 pmCome on! Everyone knows that we’re fighting the terrorists over there so we don’t have hurricanes over here! It all makes perfect sense (acording to Bush logic).
That’s all the proof we need to stay the course in Iraq for another six months, indefinitely.
Oh, by the way Congress, the military has an urgent need for an extra gazillion dollars? You do want to support the troops don’t you? Besides, Halliburton’s stock price is starting to sag and we wouldn’t want to create a panic sell off on Wall Street now would we?
Be afraid. Be very, very, very afraid! The terrorists hate our freedom, that’s why Bush/Cheney has decided unilaterally to burn the Constitution in order to protect us.
November 27th, 2006 at 4:17 pmMuckitymuckdog,
Show one piece of peer reviewed scientific evidence that proves global warming does not exist.
You can’t because it does not exist.
You are the denial king of this thread.
November 27th, 2006 at 4:21 pm#54, Show one piece of peer reviewed scientific evidence that proves global warming is caused by man and man alone. You can not because that does not exist either.
We can agree that the climate goes through cycles of warming and cooling. Who can PROVE that this trend is man, nature, neither, or both.
My vote is both.
November 27th, 2006 at 4:28 pmActually, there is substantial proof that the current global warming is real and is caused by man:
“Climatologists agree that the earth has warmed recently. The detailed causes of this change remain an active field of research, but the scientific consensus identifies greenhouse gases as the primary cause of the recent warming.”
“greenhouse gases (GHGs) are the primary causes of the human-induced component of warming. They are released by the burning of fossil fuels, land clearing and agriculture, etc. and lead to an increase in the greenhouse effect.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming
November 27th, 2006 at 4:38 pm56, ok, I guess man got us out of the Ice Age , too? Tell me, is methane a greenhouse gas? If so, start blaming every animal that farts for contributing to the end of the world.
“greenhouse gases (GHGs) are the primary causes of the human-induced component of warming.”
This is the key element of your statement. We are but one component.
November 27th, 2006 at 4:49 pmWe need to find out what the people did in 1000 ad to cause the Little Ice Age then, or else we might repeat what the Romans did in 2000 bc to cause the temperature to jump so dramatically. We must be careful not to repeat what the neanderthal people did or we might get another Big Ice Age and that would be really bad for the crops.
The last 120 years of data that “scientists” are using is clearly not enough to predict the future of the climate. 120 years is simply a blink of the eye for the earth and the sun.
The 1000’s scientists are selling so many books and movies about this “problem” it is no wonder that they are in agreement. It fills their pockets and promotes extra funding for their pockets. I am guessing the truth lies somewhere in the middle. So don’t throw your coat out and grab the spf 100, we will have our next ice age soon!
November 27th, 2006 at 4:54 pmMuckdog,
Sounds like you folks are trying to rationalize your beliefs.
Funny, that’s what you and Drudge are doing with your statements and lack of basic understanding of climate change in general.
You’re in denial.
Let me guess… You haven’t nor do you plan to watch the movie. Think about it.
November 27th, 2006 at 4:55 pmThe Sun runs in two cycles. One is about 11 years and the other about 17 years. Every 187 years or so, the two cycles merge. The total energy output from lowest to highest is about half a percent. We are 15 years from a low point, but global temperatures are on the increase. They are actually higher then the high point that last occured about , 85 years ago. In fact, the ice mass in Europe, Africa and Asia has been reduced by about 40%. Written records for the Arctic, the Antarchtic, the Americas and Africa have not been found.
November 27th, 2006 at 5:56 pm57,
Your logic is flawed, to put it mildly.
It is ridiculous and dishonest for you to twist the facts of my statement into a lie. How pathetic and stupid for you to think that anyone would actually believe your fantasy.
I said, “greenhouse gases (GHGs) are the primary causes of the human-induced component of warming.â€
What is it about the word PRIMARY that you don’t understand or so conveniently choose to ignore?
Yes, we are but one component, but we are the PRIMARY component. The other components are inconsequential in comparison. If we had never caused this PRIMARY component to take effect, we would not now be facing the global catastrophe that has already started to kill off the planet’s ecosystems.
November 27th, 2006 at 6:11 pm58,
It is apparent that you know nothing about science or about history.
Neanderthals caused an ice age? That’s a good one!
November 27th, 2006 at 6:17 pm61, I think you are the one with the flawed logic.
In post 55, I stated that Global warming is probably caused by both man and nature(My vote is both).
In post 56 you post that MAN is the ONLY contributor:
Actually,there is substantial proof that the current global warming is real and is caused by man:”
Then in 57, I agree with you that we are but one component. Primary or not, we are one component.
Enter 61 where you call my logic flawed although I agree with you. Maybe you are the one that does not understand the meaning of the word PRIMARY. Here, I’ll help you out:
of first rank or importance or value; direct and immediate rather than secondhand;
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
So, you agree with me that the cause is both natural and man made?
November 27th, 2006 at 6:41 pm“The 1000’s scientists are selling so many books and movies about this ‘problem’ it is no wonder that they are in agreement. It fills their pockets and promotes extra funding for their pockets. I am guessing the truth lies somewhere in the middle. So don’t throw your coat out and grab the spf 100, we will have our next ice age soon!”
Comment by Drudgehater
Ya know…. If Ann Coulter can publish vague threats of violence (or encouragement toward violence) I guess a scientist can publish hard data. Your argument holds as much water as the theological argument against evolution: Who you gonna believe? A guy in the pulpit, wearing a $2000 suit, whacking on an ancient book of common wisdom? Or, a guy on his knees in the dirty-hot Ouldivey gorge picking little bone fragments? Are you going to believe the guys with no objective but to sell bigger cars, or to maximize oil profits (or their “scientists” on the payroll)? Or, are you going to believe the guy who monitors a number of bouys and painstakingly evaluates the data therefrom? I have known many scientists, and the vast majority are driven by no more than a desire to know. That is what science is. I will put my money on the guy who works hard and tangibly for it.
Your line of thinking is the typical victim of the conservative meme: “Liberals say, ‘Two Plus Two equals Four! Conservatives say Two Plus Two equals 5!’” Therfore, drudgehater is duped into thinking it’s in the “middle”. There! It’s settled. Two Plus Two must be 4.5!
November 27th, 2006 at 6:50 pm62. Apparently evolution skipped the humor part in you… It would take a complete dolt to eblieve that the neanderthals caused the ice age, just as it would for the Romans to cause the spike in 2000bc, at that time they were just settling in the Carpathian-Danube region and the empire wasn’t formed for a very long time. Therefore, it was obviously the Egyptians who caused the global warming at that time which caused the fall of their empire (joking again in case you missed it).
65. Just because Ann Coulter is a complete a$$ and makes money off it, does not mean that the scientist should follow her rubric. If you follow the money from the primary scientist proponent of human-induced global warming you will see that it leads back the Miss Heinz-Kerry, who obviously has an agenda. I know that there are many, many good scientist out there compiling a generous amount of data that you are free to comb through on your own. Graphs of the past 400,000 years show a pretty great cyclical trend, just as graphs from the past 10,000 years. Similarly, graphs from the past 120 years show a very alarming trend, but miss the rest of the picture. It is like looking at the cleavage of the Mona Lisa and just seeing the top off buttcheeks.
November 27th, 2006 at 7:11 pmWho really takes Drudge seriously?
November 27th, 2006 at 7:13 pm64,
You lied about what I said, then disproved your own lie:
“In post 56 you post that MAN is the ONLY contributor:”
When I really said, “Actually,there is substantial proof that the current global warming is real and is caused by man:â€
So, I said global warming was caused by man, not that “man is the only contributor” as you so dishonestly contend. Besides, we are talking about global warming the crisis, not global warming as a natural meandering phenomenom.
Then you try to have it both ways by feigning to be with me while being against the facts about global warming, the crisis.
What’s really funny is this quote of yours:
“Global warming is probably caused by both man and nature(My vote is both).”
Guess what? The scientific facts are not up for a popularity vote. Theories are proven to be true or false, regardless of their popularity or unpopularity.
They are not a subject of belief either. You either accept the facts for what they are or live in a deluded fog about the true nature of reality.
Finally, you again try to twist the facts, this time about the use of the word primary. The word can be used in a different context, that is true.
But using the word in an unintended context using a misquote is truly dishonest.
I said, “greenhouse gases (GHGs) are the primary causes of the human-induced component of warming”
I was talking about greenhouse gases, not about global warming.
But you want people to believe that global warming is caused partly by man and by partly by natural occurances, as if it is not all our fault, which is not the case. Global warming is all our fault. This is indisputable.
The global warming crisis we now face is caused by man burning fossil fuels and creating greenhouse gases, not by any natural production of greenhouse gases. Therefore, any natural production of greenhouse gases at this point are irrelevant compared to the amount of greenhouse gases created by man.
Although, once we pass the tipping point, again caused by man’s production of greenhouse gases, then natural production of greenhouse gases will skyrocket and bring an end to the planet as we now know it.
After the tipping point is reached, any reduction in man made greenhouse gases will not be able to stop the devistation of Earth.
November 27th, 2006 at 7:28 pmAnti Drudge Morons,
I’ll try to use little words so you can understand this.
1) Drudge web site had a headline “BLEW IT: HURRICANE PREDICTIONS OFF TRACK; QUIETEST SEASON IN DECADE…â€. This headline links to a NEIL JOHNSON story in The Tampa Tribune. THAT article states the obvious; there were not many hurricanes this year.
2) Drudge also has a “flashback†(I hope it’s not too big of word for you). The flashback links to a story by Tom Carter in the THE WASHINGTON TIMES May 29, 2006. To quote this story “meteorologists are unanimous that the 2006 tropical storm season, which runs from June 1 through November, is likely to be a doozyâ€,
Drudge is getting you all in an uproar because of ONE HEADLINE! Does the move Dumb and Dumber come to mind? Why are you ripping Drudge? His headline is correct. The commonly made predictions for the 2006 huricanes season were WRONG.
Does he say global warming is not caused by man? No. (You’re all sure it is even if natural cycles and variations can also explain it.)
Does he say Al Gore said there would be more hurricanes in 2006? No. *Even if he obviously implies it.)
Does he say that over the next 10 years we won’t have more severe weather because of higher global temperatures? No. (But you are all sure that we will somewhere and sometime.)
You’re debating the global warming issue with someone that didn’t come to the debate. However, that’s not important to people that have already decided that they know the right answer to everything.
All he has done is point out that the predictions made this spring about the upcoming huricane season were wrong. You on the left would have a whole lot more credibility if you took the time to read and understand what you are trying to make fun of. Compare the headlines of Drudge to Buzz Flash. Which one grossly exagerates the articles the most? Which one appeals literally to a middle school mentality with the tone and depth of the headlines? Get off your high horses morons. Drudge isn’t 1/10th as right wing as you think. You’d know this if you actually had friends and work associates outside of your narrow little political spectrum that you’ve made your comfortable little worlds out of.
November 27th, 2006 at 7:58 pmAnti Drudge Morons,
I’ll try to use little words so you can understand this.
1) Drudge web site had a headline “BLEW IT: HURRICANE PREDICTIONS OFF TRACK; QUIETEST SEASON IN DECADE…â€. This headline links to a NEIL JOHNSON story in The Tampa Tribune. THAT article states the obvious; there were not many hurricanes this year.
2) Drudge also has a “flashback†(I hope it’s not too big of word for you). The flashback links to a story by Tom Carter in the THE WASHINGTON TIMES May 29, 2006. To quote this story “meteorologists are unanimous that the 2006 tropical storm season, which runs from June 1 through November, is likely to be a doozyâ€,
Drudge is getting you all in an uproar because of ONE HEADLINE! Does the move Dumb and Dumber come to mind? Why are you ripping Drudge? His headline is correct. The commonly made predictions for the 2006 huricanes season were WRONG.
Does he say global warming is not caused by man? No but you are sure it is even with the natural cycles and normal variations in weather we see over history.
Does he say Al Gore said there would be more hurricanes in 2006? No, but you’d have to be complete idiots to think Al didn’t think there would be more.
Does he say that over the next 10 years we won’t have more severe weather because of higher global temperatures? No.
You’re debating the global warming issue with someone that didn’t come to the debate. However, that’s not important to people that have already decided that they know the right answer to everything.
All he has done is point out that the predictions made this spring about the upcoming huricane season were wrong. You on the left would have a whole lot more credibility if you took the time to read and understand what you are trying to make fun of. Compare the headlines of Drudge to Buzz Flash. Which one grossly exagerates the articles the most? Which one appeals literally to a middle school mentality with the tone and depth of the headlines? Get off your high horses morons. Drudge isn’t 1/10th as right wing as you think. You’d know this if you actually had friends and work associates outside of your narrow little political spectrum that you’ve made your comfortable little worlds out of.
November 27th, 2006 at 8:01 pmDon, you rock!
I think it is so funny that a website could be labeled “Conservative” and “Rightwing” when it is simply posting links to newspaper such as Reuters, Breibart, The Washington Post… Everyone wants to shoot the messenger not the message. Additionally, the messages are rarely that of Matt Drudge himself. I guess everyone is still caught up in the fact that he broke the Lewinsky scandal, and created the “vast right-wing conspiracy”.
I read a survey this past summer that was pulled from a very reputable source (not Drudge) that stated, on a spectrum, the stance of different news organizations. The findings stated that Drudge is the most centrist in its reportings and still had a left leaning bias. So if the “conservative mouthpiece” has a left-leaning bias, where in the world is the unbiased reporting? I suppose we can find all of the “True Answers” in the New York Times or Time magazine. Simply put, you must go out and actually seek the truth yourself, we have access to millions of times the amount of information that was available to us 50 years. Yet, we somehow seem to think that the truth lies within one source, within one political agenda, and within one view point.
I do not think that Al Gore is lacking credibility based off of his political affiliation, I feel that it was lacking once he claimed to invent the internet. It is like George Bush saying he invented peace or Bin Laden saying he invented tolerance for other beliefs.
Do the research for Global Warming, put down the spoons that others are feeding you. If you want to have a serious discussion, do not listen to the political hacks… They have proven over and over again that they are fill of something and it is said to be a contributing factor of Global Warming.
November 27th, 2006 at 8:20 pmBill C’s alter ego,
You got to be something incredible to meet in person. To take two postings (Since Don posted twice) and pull it together to warp a view into something so incredible wrong is just simply incredible. I would love to sit down for a drink with you because I am sure that you are full of incredibly fancy stories. If you are not willing to seek out the truth and want it all placed in your lap, so be it. I am sure that there are many out there that will think of some great stories to tell you so, can share at the amusement of others.
Just for the record, there are scientists out there that claim Bigfoot is real, yet will never be able to produce it.
November 27th, 2006 at 8:57 pm#68,
Guess what? The scientific facts are not up for a popularity vote. Theories are proven to be true or false, regardless of their popularity or unpopularity.
Exactally, show me one piece of evidence that says that ONLY man contrubuted to global warming. You can not.
Did I say that man does not contribute to it greatly? No. I know man is the primary contributor. I have simply stated that man is not the ONLY contributor. Nature does contribute as well.
That is why the earth goes through stages of cooling and warming. No one can discount that fact.
November 27th, 2006 at 8:58 pmI think we are facing global warming, I am no scientist but I have taken some geology classes and things are looking scarier all of the time.
November 27th, 2006 at 10:02 pmVicks,
The globe is warming, there is empirical data to support this statement. The question is what is the causation?
There is evidence that supports the fact that there are cycles in the global temperature, which expains the Ice Ages and the warm periods that were experienced when the dinosaurs were roaming and at the end of the Egyptian Empire.
There is also evidence that supports the theory that global warming is caused by human interaction through the emission of greenhouse gases.
As I pointed out in posting 58, the truth lies somewhere in the middle (or as BC put it in posting 65, at 4.5).
The sad reality is simple, we cannot and will not control nature. Just as there was an Ice Age 20,000 years ago, we will have one again. Simiarly, there were periods of global warmeth. Now, since homo sapians have been inhabiting the earth we have survived both types of periods. For those who believe in darminism and evolution and whatnot, that would leave us to believe that we might be facing a period of warming so the strong will survive. Likewise, a time will come (hopefully before we kill ourselves off with war) when we face another Ice Age. Guess what, the strong will survive. It is the natural cycle of things. We, as humans, will not be around for another billion years. We will not even be around for another million years or probably 100,000 years. We will evolve to fit the environment.
We are not so significant that we will accidentally kill off the entire planet. Do not be so conceited. Mankind will evolve and grow through adaption. We will survive this cycle just as we have in the past.
November 27th, 2006 at 10:29 pmI will state it as simply as possible for those who deny that we are entering crisis as far as global warming is concerned. I have about four acres of pristine, unaltered property in Florida that I originally purchased about forty years ago. Ten years ago, that acreage was declared wetlands as the surface became permanently moist. Today, there is about a half inch of standing salt-water on the property. I’m not deeply concerned as I use the area to screen my family from the noise and bustle of neighbors and my home is 14 feet above sea level. They actually use fireworks down here. Wildlife also abounds – the occasional deer or panther sends our cat up the wall. She also enjoys the occasional gecko is unwise enough to enter her territory. Alligators are another matter. She has not left the house since one came close to making a meal of her.
November 27th, 2006 at 10:38 pmFor those who doubt the role of man’s recent activities in causing/contributing to global warming, note that we have a record of atmospheric CO2 that now goes back almost a million years in the ice cores of Greenland and Antarctica. They show: (1) CO2 in the atmosphere falls during the known times of glaciation, and (2) CO2 levels are now higher by some tens of percent than at any time in these last million years. These are unarguable facts. Since it is certain that the recent large increase in CO2 has occurred mainly since the start of the industrial revolution, during which time large scale burning of coal and major industrial activity began, it suggests, but does not prove of course, that this UNDENIABLY man-caused increase in CO2 has led to global warming in recent times. This is true not respective of other factors in the natural world that might be at work. It is also a fact that our nearest neighbor Venus has a thick atmosphere that traps heat, the surface of which is sufficiently hot to melt lead. Now it is flippant and foolish to just dismiss all the talk of global warming as being promoted by liberal scientists on the take from Kerry’s wife. Why? Well, if the sea level rose today by 20 feet, humankind would lose much of the best agricultural land, plus many of the largest cities, on the planet. Finally, we CAN DO something about this; we can pursue alternative energy sources aggressively, and we can start reducing our production of CO2 right now. As was mentioned, methane is another naturally-occurring greenhouse gas, rapidly increasing due to the thawing of the northern regions of Asia and North America. As the permafrost melts, decay can commence in some hundreds of thousands of cubic kilometers of organic material. Such an event would disrupt or end civilization as we know it. Better is not to be so flippant about an event of unknown probability, but not zero, which we have some means to ameliorate.
November 27th, 2006 at 10:51 pmIf you actually read the article, Drudge says absolutely nothing about Gore or global warming. It was not an “attack on Gore’s global warming”, but a well-written article about how the latest seasonal hurricane predictions failed miserably, which is absolutely correct.
This Web site is “Think Progress”. You folks should work a little harder with the “think” part.
November 28th, 2006 at 12:19 pmVery entertaining thread. Biggest laughs of all come from the self-styled naysayers who glibly declare a majority of scientists complicit in deception, then condescendingly explain to the rest of us that there have always been climate fluctuations.
Holy shitstorm, Batman, climate researchers never thought of that (or they have, but admitting it would shut off access to all those billions of dollars that the federal govt lavishes on science)!
Oh, thank you, thank you armchair climate quarterbacks! But, where were you when the scientists need you?
“Men, proclaiming themselves wise, became fools.”
or…
“Never have so many idiots been so convinced of their genius.”
November 28th, 2006 at 1:59 pmThis is proof that Gore was wrong. Do you really think it was a coincidence that he created that stupid movie after the biggest hurricane season in decades? How many tickets would he have sold if he had released the movie after this years hurricane season? Leave it to Gore to capitalize on people’s emotions after a tragedy like Katrina. And to think that this guy almost became president! Leave it to the guy who claimed he invented the internet and downplayed the danger that Osama Bin Laden imposed in a court hearing with Oliver North.
November 29th, 2006 at 5:35 pmI’ll take your critique of Drudge seriously when you make the identical point against those who appealed to 2004 and 2005 as evidence that global warming was driving more and stronger hurricanes. The lack of solid scientific support for the GW/hurricanes connection has been argued in many peer-reviewed articles. See some cited in “A Call to Truth, Prudence, and Protection for the Poor: An Evangelical Response to Global Warming,” at http://www.interfaithstewardship.org.
November 29th, 2006 at 10:42 pmWhat Global Warming? That’s all liberal scare tactics, right?
By the way, at this very moment there is a typhoon rolling over Manila/Philippines with windspeeds of up to 173 mph.
There are more than 3 Million Americans incarcerated for smoking pot and people who proclaim that Global Warming is not happening are running around freely. Something is just too wrong in this picture.
November 30th, 2006 at 2:17 pmThe IPCC is downgrading global warming by 25% overall, and sea level changes by 50% for their 2007 report.
This is not the first time the IPCC has had to downgrade their predictions.
This is, of course, highly embarassing to them and the entire global warming scientific community. Of course they need to minimize their embarassment (and protect their funding), so we are probably looking at data that suggest a 50% overall reduction, and a 75% reduction in sea level change, but they will only admit to smaller numbers.
Add that to the previous reductions that the IPCC has had to make over the years, and we are probably at about overall warming effects of only 25% of their original dire predictions. In other words, climat alarmists overstated their case by 400%. But certainly, as time goes by, that number will rise even more.
The IPCC, by simply writing a new report on recycled paper, have done over 400% better at reducing global warming than the Kyoto treaty’s measly 6%. Keep spending those billions (or trillions) Kyoto signers…! Nothing like burning money for no good reason.
Of course the only people with a good track record in predictions in all of this are the people like me, that have said for many years that the consensus of global warming scientists will BE FORCED to continually lower their predictions.
And there will be more lowering after this one, in future IPCC reports.
I have never been wrong on this.
Also, the readership here don’t read Drudge Report, otherwise they would know that the article above was not Druge. Like 99% of the links he ever publishes, they are to other news services and writers, and are not written by him.
Have fun, chicken littles…
December 10th, 2006 at 2:35 pmI am a meteorologist for the national weather service and have been so for a long time. You people have got to get your heads out of Al Gore’s butt and start thinking for yourselves. (I’m speaking only to those who are buying into the Al Gore propaganda) Global Warming is NOT real. Not real in the sense that driving an SUV is going to cause another hurricane Katrina to hit Denver. Global warming is real in the sense that this is something that has been happening for a long time. The temperature of the earth has been increasing more or less continuously since the time of the cave man.
Approximately 18,000 years ago the earth began a gradual process of warming up after more than 100,000 years of Ice Ages. Much of North America, Europe, and Asia lay buried beneath great sheets of glacial ice.
By about 15,000 years ago the earth had warmed sufficiently to halt the advance of glaciers, and sea levels worldwide began to rise.
By 8,000 years ago the land bridge across the Bearing Strait was drowned, cutting off the migration of men and animals to North America.
Since the end of the Ice Age, Earth’s temperature has risen approximately 16 degrees F and sea levels have risen a total of 300 feet! Forests have returned where once there was only ice.
From a geological perspective, global warming is the normal state of our accustomed natural world. Technically, we are in an “interglacial phase,†or between ice ages. The question is not really if an ice age will return, but when.
Don’t panic when you hear global alarmists warning the earth may have warmed almost 1 degree in the last 200 years. Although this still hasn’t yet been proven, it is in fact exactly what should be happening if everything is normal.
If Global Warming stops, then you can start worrying! It means our warm interglacial phase is over and we may be heading into another Ice Age!
Global Warming occurs in cycles caused mainly by changes in the sun’s energy output and the sun’s relative position to the earth. So stop believing the hype and realize that Al Gore is doing this simply because he is bitter about losing the election, which by the way HE DID LOSE. This is purely a political spin, and he is trying to place the entire myth of his version of global warming in this administration. There is NO WAY on earth that the United States is singel handedly responsible for global warming. I have been to other countries around the world and trust me, they emit A LOT more toxins into the atmosphere than we do. So don’t listen to that idiot. He invented the internet remeber? Now he is inventing Global Warming. Go drive your car as much as you’d like. Carbon dioxide (CO2) is the principal gas that trees and other plants need to survive, just like oxygen (O2) is the principle gas that humans and other animals require. Trees absorb CO2 and release O2– animals inhale O2 and exhale CO2. See how nice this all works!
Carbon dioxide is invisible. The puffs of clouds you see from coal-fired power plants are just that– clouds. Powerplants use steam to drive the turbines which generate electricity. Steam must be cooled and condensed to water to reuse it to make more steam.
The fat, curvy towers that look like they are belching white smoke are really only emitting pure water vapor. They are in effect making clouds.
The actual exhaust emissions come from the smokestack, which is the tall skinny tower. Because modern technology makes it possible to remove much of the fly ash and sulfur before releasing smokestack gases to the air, smokestack emissons today are often almost invisible.
January 25th, 2007 at 12:13 pmI am a meteorologist for the national weather service and have been so for a long time. You people have got to get your heads out of Al Gore’s butt and start thinking for yourselves. (I’m speaking only to those who are buying into the Al Gore propaganda) Global Warming is NOT real. Not real in the sense that driving an SUV is going to cause another hurricane Katrina to hit Denver. Global warming is real in the sense that this is something that has been happening for a long time. The temperature of the earth has been increasing more or less continuously since the time of the cave man.
Approximately 18,000 years ago the earth began a gradual process of warming up after more than 100,000 years of Ice Ages. Much of North America, Europe, and Asia lay buried beneath great sheets of glacial ice.
By about 15,000 years ago the earth had warmed sufficiently to halt the advance of glaciers, and sea levels worldwide began to rise.
By 8,000 years ago the land bridge across the Bearing Strait was drowned, cutting off the migration of men and animals to North America.
Since the end of the Ice Age, Earth’s temperature has risen approximately 16 degrees F and sea levels have risen a total of 300 feet! Forests have returned where once there was only ice.
From a geological perspective, global warming is the normal state of our accustomed natural world. Technically, we are in an “interglacial phase,†or between ice ages. The question is not really if an ice age will return, but when.
Don’t panic when you hear global alarmists warning the earth may have warmed almost 1 degree in the last 200 years. Although this still hasn’t yet been proven, it is in fact exactly what should be happening if everything is normal.
If Global Warming stops, then you can start worrying! It means our warm interglacial phase is over and we may be heading into another Ice Age!
Global Warming occurs in cycles caused mainly by changes in the sun’s energy output and the sun’s relative position to the earth. So stop believing the hype and realize that Al Gore is doing this simply because he is bitter about losing the election, which by the way HE DID LOSE. This is purely a political spin, and he is trying to place the entire myth of his version of global warming in this administration. There is NO WAY on earth that the United States is single handedly responsible for global warming. I have been to other countries around the world and trust me, they emit A LOT more toxins into the atmosphere than we do. So don’t listen to that idiot. He invented the internet remember? Now he is inventing Global Warming. Go drive your car as much as you’d like. Carbon dioxide (CO2) is the principal gas that trees and other plants need to survive, just like oxygen (O2) is the principle gas that humans and other animals require. Trees absorb CO2 and release O2– animals inhale O2 and exhale CO2. See how nice this all works!
Carbon dioxide is invisible. The puffs of clouds you see from coal-fired power plants are just that– clouds. Powerplants use steam to drive the turbines which generate electricity. Steam must be cooled and condensed to water to reuse it to make more steam.
The fat, curvy towers that look like they are belching white smoke are really only emitting pure water vapor. They are in effect making clouds.
The actual exhaust emissions come from the smokestack, which is the tall skinny tower. Because modern technology makes it possible to remove much of the fly ash and sulfur before releasing smokestack gases to the air, smokestack emissons today are often almost invisible.
January 25th, 2007 at 12:13 pmI think we all need to stop refering to it “Global Warming,” and start using the broader name of “Climate Change.” Global Warming is just part of human induced Climate Change. If we use “Climate Change,” it won’t be as easy for Fox News and similar skeptics to say Global Warming isn’t happening because it’s 20 below zero in the Midwest, or an ice storm just hit the east coast. Research studies and documents refer to the broader problem as Climate Change, I think it’s time for the media and public to do the same.
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