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ThinkFast: November 27, 2006

By Think Progress on Nov 27th, 2006 at 9:00 am

ThinkFast: November 27, 2006


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CNN’s John Roberts called the situation in Iraq an “absolute mess,” and said the media has “sanitized” their coverage of the violence. “The amount of death that’s on the streets of Baghdad for U.S. forces and for the Iraqi people is at an astronomical level,” Roberts said.

A draft of the Iraq Study Group’s report “urges an aggressive regional diplomatic initiative that includes direct talks with Iran and Syria but sets no timetables for a military withdrawal, according to officials who have seen all or parts of the document.”

Britain’s Defense Secretary said that UK troop levels in Iraq will be “significantly lower by a matter of thousands” at the end of next year. The UK currently has approximately 7,000 troops in Iraq.

Conservative congressional leaders are expected to punt the issue of completing spending bills to next year’s Congress rather than take the time to piece together the legislation, potentially the final act of the Do-Nothing Congress. “It could mean we would adjourn much earlier than most pundits think,” said one conservative Senate aide.

Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS), one of the foremost social conservatives in the Senate, “is considering whether to stop blocking a judicial nominee over concerns her appearance at a lesbian commitment ceremony betrayed her legal views on gay marriage.” Judge Janet Neff has said she attended the wedding as a friend of one of the two women, a longtime neighbor.

This week, President Bush visits Estonia and attends a two-day NATO summit in Latvia, where he will press “alliance members to increase defense spending.” From Latvia, Bush “heads to Amman, Jordan, for two days of talks with Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki.”

The Washington Times reviews Defense Secretary nominee Robert Gates’ writings and reports him to “be more cautious and pragmatic than his predecessor, Mr. Rumsfeld, who has transformed the military and aggressively hunted al Qaeda members.”

And finally: The War on Peace Wreaths heats up. “A homeowners association in southwestern Colorado has threatened to fine a resident $25 a day until she removes a Christmas wreath with a peace sign that some say is an anti-Iraq war protest or a symbol of Satan.” “The peace sign has a lot of negativity associated with it,” said Bob Kearns, president of the Loma Linda Homeowners Association in Pagosa Springs. The homeowner said she won’t take the wreath down until after the holidays.

What did we miss? Let us know in the comments section?



77 Responses to “ThinkFast: November 27, 2006”

  1. kevo says:

    Scalia can go duck hunting with Cheney, but Judge Neff can’t attend a ceremony of cherished tradition. These “conservatives” are morons!
    -Kevo


  2. leftcoast says:

    Yesterday on Fox News, Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA) “accused a Fox News anchor of conducting a skewed interview…Asked how fair Fox is when compared to other news outlets, Frank said the network is “substantially worse.”
    I can’t see how any FAUX news employee would wish to include their employment with FAUX on their resume. Unless they’re being screened by the WH for a position in the administration. I believe it is compulsory to have had worked for them in that case.


  3. cynicalgirl says:

    I want someone to explain to me how peace is “negative”.


  4. leftcoast says:

    Some HOA’s are like little gestapo’s.


  5. dlet says:

    “The peace sign has a lot of negativity associated with it,” said Bob Kearns, president of the Loma Linda Homeowners Association in Pagosa Springs.

    But if was in the shape of a cross it would be okay, because that has no negativity associated with it.

    If I were this lady I would make a wreath in the shape of a tank and ask this idiot which symbol has a negative vibe to it.


  6. Jeffrey Stewart says:

    I’ve seen Rep. Frank on Bill Maher a couple of times. He is a very smart man, informed, articulate and gives no quarter.


  7. Larry+from+C says:

    Screw the Iraq Study Group. I don’t need or want the opinion of a bunch of Iran-Contra thugs and Carlyle/Saudi elites deciding American Policy.

    I’ll throw my support to Michael Moore, who once again, sums things up perfectly… GET OUT OF IRAQ TODAY! Not 6 months from today. Not 30 days from today. TODAY! Nothing is to be gained by staying one more day.

    Save our soldiers. Give Americans a $2 billion/week tax cut. Get out today!

    http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?id=202


  8. And You Thought REAGAN Was Stupid says:

    “I would make a wreath in the shape of a tank . . . ” Comment by dlet

    Surprisingly, I think Martha made these on The Today Show for the holidays last year. (hee hee).


  9. Marie says:

    Betcha the Homeowner’s Assn. prez, Kearns, is a Republican who supports Bush and the war, and believes the “peace” sign is a personal affront. Only people who are unable to face facts would react as he did, by fining the peace sign owner and firing the directors who objected.
    Pretty autocratic, I’d say. As a member of our own Homeowner’s assn., I would make a motion that we dismiss the president.


  10. katy says:

    news flash: nbc has decided that iraq IS in a CIVIL WAR… despite an official message deying such from the white house… matt even read a definition of ‘civil war’ just to be sure… so it’s official – nbc had declared it so…


  11. SouthWest Bob says:

    The Faux Decider GWB can fly all over the world, but where ever he stops he’s still the failed USA prez. He has no leverage on any issue at this point. Just like the Iraq Study Groupis not intended to actually “solve” the problem of Iraq, but to give the appearance doing something to deal with the problem that suddenly and unexpectedly occurred in Iraq, because the “Decider” has already decided that “leaving too soon would lead to defeat.”


  12. Marie says:

    #4
    Some HOA’s are like little gestapo’s.
    Comment by leftcoast

    You are so right – one of the reasons that I maintain a seat on our Board is to do my part in keeping our prez from satisfying his dictatorial bent.


  13. Marie says:

    No withdrawal plans from the ISG?
    Why am I not surprised? “The next 3 to 6 months” will be critical?
    The boy-king is off on a diplomatic mission – just putting him and diplomatic in the same sentence is an oxymoron.


  14. dlet says:

    So from this morning’s Thinkfast we see that consservatives don’t like peace, won’t allow you to have friends that are gay, leave the country in a financial ruin for other to take care of, continue to drag feet in Iraq and still lay praise on Rumsfeld. And they wonder why they were voted out.


  15. Briseadh na Faire says:

    On another thread, but still relevant:

    People put in power
    play their deadly game
    Searching, vainly searching,
    for someone else to blame.

    (Soldiers die,
    mothers cry;
    Omni-impotent fathers wonder why.)

    As long as there’s a profit,
    We’ll wait another day,
    While children of the wealthy
    “round the rosie” play.

    “Asses ashes all fall down”
    When the prophet comes to town.
    Wonder who the rich will pay
    to keep their children safe that day?

    When babies in their cradle
    Are gently rocked to sleep
    By cluster bombs and bloody palms,
    Ne’er their souls to keep.

    (Soldiers die,
    mothers cry)
    While the politicians lie.

    And people in their bomb shelters
    play their deadly game:
    Searching, vainly searching,
    for someone else to blame.


  16. Briseadh na Faire says:


    Give Americans a $2 billion/week tax cut. Get out today!

    Comment by Larry+from+C — November 27, 2006 @ 9:24 am

    Unfortunately, pulling out our soldiers wouldn’t result in our government being able to give Americans a tax cut.

    First, the money spent on Bush’s War is all borrowed funds, so ending the war merely reduces borrowing.

    Second, the hundreds of billions of dollars borrowed for Bush’s War is not even part of the massive budget deficits! It’s been financed outside of the budget through supplemental authorizations. So ending Bush’s War won’t even shrink the deficit.


  17. Marie says:

    #15 BnF
    It is worth re-posting.
    Having memories of Viet Nam, I feel like I am in a time warp.


  18. NewNameAcquired says:

    FOLLOW UP –

    Remember that website ThinkProgress posted about a while ago (April this year) on Coloradans For Marriage? At the time there was nothing on it…

    http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/18/how-do-i-love-marriage-let-me-count-the-ways/

    Well now they have SOME information on there. I would have expected more after all this time, but it’s getting there. (link to the site is at that ThinkProgress post.)


  19. Larry from C says:

    16, BNF, Yes, you are correct.

    Since the Iraq War/Occupation is largely financed by borrowed Chinese money I once again make this suggestion…

    …Just as College Bowl games are titled after their sponsor such as the “Taco Bell Fiesta Bowl…the Iraq War should be called “The People’s Republic of China presents the American Occupation of Iraq


  20. Quadrajet says:

    “A homeowners association in southwestern Colorado has threatened to fine a resident $25 a day until she removes a Christmas wreath with a peace sign that some say is an anti-Iraq war protest or a symbol of Satan.” “The peace sign has a lot of negativity associated with it,” said Bob Kearns, president of the Loma Linda Homeowners Association in Pagosa Springs.”

    In the bush era you often have to take a second look at things to figure out whether you’re reading a news story or the script for an SNL skit.


  21. squegeeboo says:

    “A homeowners association in southwestern Colorado has threatened to fine a resident $25 a day until she removes a Christmas wreath with a peace sign that some say is an anti-Iraq war protest or a symbol of Satan.”

    It’s like the bizzaro version of HOA’s in areas like San Fran that won’t let you display an American Flag


  22. dlet says:

    “The People’s Republic of China presents the American Occupation of Iraq“
    Comment by Larry from C

    As a promotion for the war they could hand out coupons for Wal-Mart. “Get all the Chinese made junk at even lower prices because we know you can’t afford anything better.”


  23. aguafiero says:

    The president of the (Loma Linda) homeowners association ordered a commitee of 5 persons to order the wreath displayee to take it down, they refused saying it was a seasonal decoration, and not subject to the association rules about signs and advertizing. The president fired all 5 members of the committee.

    “This would be a whole lot easier if this was a dictatorship, and I was the dictator , of course…..” George W. Bush


  24. Zooey says:

    George W. Bush, look at that picture. YOU did that.


  25. Zooey says:

    “The peace sign has a lot of negativity associated with it,” said Bob Kearns, president of the Loma Linda Homeowners Association in Pagosa Springs. The homeowner said she won’t take the wreath down until after the holidays.

    Get bent, Bob.

    Boys and girls, this is why I’m always on the Board of my HOA. Mine isn’t nazi-like, but you never know who’s buying next door.


  26. RealScientist says:

    Betcha the Homeowner’s Assn. prez, Kearns, is a Republican who supports Bush and the war, and believes the “peace” sign is a personal affront.
    Comment by Marie — November 27, 2006 @ 9:27 am

    I wouldn’t take that bet, Marie, unless you spotted me at least 100:1 odds.


  27. Juan C says:

    Im sure MA, robert, Daryll, JMH and probably Exley are enjoying the picture above. What kind of sick people we are to allow this?


  28. squegeeboo says:

    Zoo, did you end up finding the movie?

    Juan
    Im sure MA, robert, Daryll, JMH and probably Exley are enjoying the picture above. What kind of sick people we are to allow this?
    How did I miss the list? My trolling must be sub-par. But the woman does look like shes in an Opera and holding the high note.


  29. Flaco says:

    Boys and girls, this is why I’m always on the Board of my HOA. Mine isn’t nazi-like, but you never know who’s buying next door.

    Comment by Zooey

    Small brain big boobs right?


  30. Juan C says:

    But the woman does look like shes in an Opera and holding the high note.
    Comment by squegeeboo

    If you have to make a joke out of grieving woman then I just feel sorry for you.


  31. Zooey says:

    Squeegy,

    I found out that our hippy movie place does have a copy of “The Forbidden Zone,” but the last person to rent it did not return it over the long weekend. So there’s still a chance! I’m going to reserve it.


  32. Zooey says:

    But the woman does look like shes in an Opera and holding the high note.
    Comment by squegeeboo

    I agree with Juan, Squeegy. That’s just wrong.


  33. Juan C says:

    Hey, Zoo. :)
    Have a nice day. Im off!


  34. Zooey says:

    Small brain big boobs right?
    Comment by Flaco

    Don’t be so hard on yourself…you’ll find a way to work with what you have.


  35. squegeeboo says:

    Zoo, Juan

    If you have to make a joke out of grieving woman then I just feel sorry for you.
    I agree with Juan, Squeegy. That’s just wrong.

    Sorry, it may have been a bit over the top.

    Good to hear about the movie though, or maybe not, once you actually watch it you’ll prob. regret hearing about it.


  36. Jay Randal says:

    Who would want the job to pick up garbage in Iraq? Violence is so bad in Iraq that you can get killed picking up trash! Iraq no longer exists as a viable nation, because chaos rules over it now thanks to Bush Regime!


  37. Zooey says:

    Good to hear about the movie though, or maybe not, once you actually watch it you’ll prob. regret hearing about it.
    Comment by squegeeboo

    If it’s that bad, I’ll just ask Tundra to let the air out of your tires.


  38. squegeeboo says:

    Zoo
    If it’s that bad, I’ll just ask Tundra to let the air out of your tires.

    To late, blew one out on the way to work today, now I get to learn how to change a bike tire!


  39. Zooey says:

    To late, blew one out on the way to work today, now I get to learn how to change a bike tire!
    Comment by squegeeboo

    You didn’t learn to change a bike tire when you were 10?


  40. Parrotlover77 says:

    The peace symbol is satanic? Only the conservative christians (purposely lower-case “c”) could link peace to satan.


  41. squegeeboo says:

    You didn’t learn to change a bike tire when you were 10?

    Nope, wasn’t much of a bike rider growing up


  42. leftcoast says:

    #40 The peace symbol is satanic? Only the conservative christians (purposely lower-case “c”) could link peace to satan.

    Comment by Parrotlover77

    I too believe that the HOA prez is an idiot. See my earlier post. But I do not believe that conservative christians were mentioned in the story, only that he said the peace sign was satanic. Linking the peace symbol to satan is a ludicrous stance, but please don’t drag conservative christians into it. I may disagree with them, but I don’t blame them for an other’s stupidity if not attributable.


  43. Zooey says:

    Nope, wasn’t much of a bike rider growing up
    Comment by squegeeboo

    Sorry, Squeegy! You’re making up for it now. :)


  44. Cayle says:

    It’s time to support humanitarian aid in Iraq and give back to the citizens that have had everything taken from them. The UN Millennium Development Goals address global poverty and improving the lives of people not only in Iraq, but the world over. Agreed to in 2000 by every nation on earth, the UN Millennium Development Goals aim to curb global poverty, establish equality, provide primary education, and stop the spread of disease. All ideas that we take for granted in developed countries. These are lofty goals, but by no means unattainable. The Borgen Project (http://www.borgenproject.org) is an organization lobbying US political leaders to support legislation addressing the UN Millennium Development Goals and global poverty. It is our responsibility to force governmental agendasetters to provide aid to those most in need, now during holiday season and continuously year round.


  45. enough says:

    Let ‘em go. Let ‘em go. Let ‘em go. They have done enough harm. Let ‘em go.


  46. robert says:

    #7,I’ll throw my support to Michael Moore, who once again, sums things up perfectly… GET OUT OF IRAQ TODAY! Not 6 months from today. Not 30 days from today. TODAY! Nothing is to be gained by staying one more day.

    If you get your information from Michael Moore you are just as dumb as those that get their information from Rush Dimbulb. Both are fat asses that do not know their ass from their elbow.

    I hope that fatass (MM) loses the lawsuit against him for being a vulture that prays on sedated soldiers and takes their comments out of context in order to line his own pockets.


  47. WaltTheMan says:

    #46,
    Truth hurts robert?


  48. Zooey says:

    I do believe it does, Walt.


  49. robert says:

    #47,

    Taking someone comments while they are sedated and being wheeled into surgery, then twisting things out of context is not truth. It is more like a hit job. Michael Moore has zero journalistic integrity. He does not do documentaries, he does long opinion pieces. He, in short, is a SCUMBAG.


  50. robert says:

    Here is a little truth for ya’
    Iraq war vet sues Michael Moore, NBC

    Sgt. Peter Damon deserves evey dime he can get from this dirtbag.


  51. Zooey says:

    I hate to nitpick, Robert, but a lawsuit isn’t truth either.


  52. leftcoast says:

    #50 Sgt. Peter Damon deserves evey dime he can get from this dirtbag.
    Robert
    Sgt. Damon is seeking $150 mil. for including him in a film of which he did not agree to be in, would be opposed to it’s politics, and possibly made him out to be against the war. I feel greatly for his injuries and no compensation can be enough for his sacrifice. But, a $150 mil? Why stop there? Why not $500 mil. Hell, a billion. Oh, we don’t want to look too opportunistic like Moore was. We’ll just keep it to $150 mil.
    We have our integrity think of ya know.


  53. robert says:

    It will take every dime fat-boy made of his “hit-job-umentary”


  54. roundup says:

    “Peace on Earth,
    Goodwill Toward Men”
    “‘Peace’ on Wreath,
    Offend Them Again?”


  55. Zooey says:

    Have you seen Fahrenheit 9/11, Robert?


  56. elainia says:

    dlet, about your comment about Walmart…according to the book “The World is Flat: A brief history of the twenty first century” by Thomas Friedman…Walmart is certainly ruthless concerning its treatment of employees but the Chinese junk thing isn’t exactly true. What they did was pioneered a fantastically stream-line, state of the art supply chain and demanded the best prices from all of its suppliers.

    Anyway, it’s a great book about, to put it in just a word, globalization. One comment the author makes loud and clear is that the Democratic party really needs to jump on new technology to make politics within the party better. It’s all about the ability to collaborate. By the way, in the Oxford dictionary of current language the second definition for “collaborate” is to betray one’s country by cooperating with the enemy.


  57. Larry from C says:

    Robert, Michael Moore is a hero of mine. Children should be reading about him 50 years from now in history class. When the entire country was threatened by Bush, Cheney, Ari Fleisher, Fox, NBC, CBS, ABC and CNN to support the Iraq war OR ELSE risk being labeled a traitor Michael Moore took them all on. Fahrenheit 9/11 was a challenge to every claim made by the liars and presented real factual information that the news networks chose to ignore. Michael Moore did the work that the network news was too cowardly to do. He laid the groundwork for future progressive documentary makers. The service Michael Moore did for this country cannot be underestimated. Every claim in his movie was backed up by 3 mainstream easily verifiable sources. Despite death threats by extremist right wing wack jobs Michael forged ahead. And in the end, Michael has been vindicated. He was correct in his opposition to the war.


  58. Zooey says:

    Well said, Larry.

    History will be kinder to Michael Moore (eventually), than it is to George W. Bush and his followers.


  59. Briseadh na Faire says:

    robert, robert, robert, dragging up old news again?

    I mean, really. That lawsuit was filed last June. It’s old news.

    And why did the guy wait TWO YEARS before filing a lawsuit for “defamation and infliction of emotional distress?” You’d think if he were distressed over Fahrenheit 9/11 had have known about it a lot sooner.

    Let’s face it, the guy gave NBC permission to use the footage. NBC sold the rights to Mr. Moore. It’s not like Moore had a secret camera and video taped the guy without his knowledge.

    The only “truth” in your link, robert, is that the guy found a lawyer two years later who would file a lawsuit on his behalf. I’m sure if you looked for two years, you could find a lawyer to take on just about any case, especially if you paid him or her up front!

    Personally, I’m wondering if the attorney involved got sanctioned for filing a frivolous lawsuit. I also wonder if this suit has the financial backing of any of the right-wing groups that financed the Paula Jones litigation against Clinton.

    But keep us posted, robert, on how this thing turns out, will ya?


  60. robert says:

    Zooey, Yes I have seen Fahrenheit 9/11. I have also seen Bowling for Columbine(sic).

    Larry from C,
    So, are you are that, even though MM misrepresented what that soldier was saying, it was OK for him to do so because it served a greater cause?

    BnF,
    Have you even bothered to study Sgt. Peter Damon’s story.?Or is it a case that since it was someone you agree with (MM) that they are untouchable. The good Sgt Damon would have been happy for a simple apology but kept getting stonewalled while Moore kept lining his pockets using the good Sgts name. Just because NBC sold the rights to Moore does not give him the right to take statements out of context and twist them to meet his own agenda.


  61. robert says:

    BTW, Zooey, I watched a bootleg copy of a bootleg copy. I don’t want to put a dime in Moores pocket.


  62. Zooey says:

    Robert,

    Did you read what Briseadh na Faire wrote? Obviously he has looked into this case.

    Just because many of us respect and admire Michael Moore doesn’t mean that if he messes up we won’t call him on it.

    I guess you’re on the moral high ground, Robert, since you’d rather put money in the pockets of criminals than a law abiding filmmaker.


  63. robert says:

    Nope, in Iraq it is legal to buy the bootleg copies. Therefore not a criminal act. Sorry, Zooey.


  64. Zooey says:

    Ok, Robert, I won’t get into that with you, even though I think it’s still questionable.

    What about Briseadh na Faire’s comment, and the information it contains?


  65. WaltTheMan says:

    #63 – robert,
    So, on what planet is Iraq located? International Copyright Laws cover Earth.


  66. robert says:

    I do not know who is backing the suit. My question is, did he bother too read the Sgts side before declairing it frivolous? Things that need to be concidered are (1)the fact that the Sgt took steps to gain a simple apology (2) the Sgt was undergoing recovery from his wounds and (3) The Sgt fulfilling his military duties.

    Keep in mind that this soldier was shown, out of context, denouncing the United States military action in Iraq and attacking President Bush. Both of these are chargable under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So, Moore, for his own desires not only damaged this mans reputation but threatened his livelyhood.

    Here is something else for you to read about your hero.

    Michael Moore profiting off my husbands blood

    My husband’s bloody image was used on Fahrenheit 911 on scene 22 on the DVD. Michael Moore took this very personal tragedy and used it without a care about our family having to see this awful image captured on film. I bet he doesn’t even know that this Marine survived and still proudly serves his country.This movie is against everything my husband believes in. He has pride in his country and despite his disability, he has no regrets in his service to our Nation. He is truly an inspiration to all who meet him. He will continue to serve just as long as he is allowed to. The footage of my husband is pretty graphic, It’s amazing he survived. Ironically it was the body armour that saved his life, the body armour that Kerry voted against. He lost his right eye, hearing in his right ear, loss of sense of smell and is legally blind in his left eye. He says “Our country is still at war and I will not leave the military without a fight.” I don’t think this is what Michael Moore was expecting to hear from this bloody injured Marine he used for quite the opposite effect. Kerry like Moore also used this same footage of my husband. He used it and implied that he knew the father of this injured serviceman and that the father told him he did not want his son to go to war. I can’t believe that the two people that we despise the most, happen to be the two people who used the blood of my husband for their own benifit. April wife of Cee-gar Marine


  67. robert says:

    #65, Better tell Iraq that!


  68. WaltTheMan says:

    #67 – robert,
    They realize that. China has been crushing the things for about four years now.


  69. Briseadh na Faire says:


    Keep in mind that this soldier was shown, out of context, denouncing the United States military action in Iraq and attacking President Bush. Both of these are chargable under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So, Moore, for his own desires not only damaged this mans reputation but threatened his livelyhood.

    Comment by robert — November 27, 2006 @ 9:55 pm

    robert, robert, robert, that’s not what the story in your link said. And your article said absolutely nothing about asking for a simple apology before filing a $150 million lawsuit. Come to think of it, what lawyer would take a client who says “I just want an apology. If I get an apology, that’s all I care about….oh, and by the way, if I don’t get an apology, then I want to sue for 150 million dollars” and then goes out and tries to get just an apology?

    and you have an interesting set of situational ethics. Tell me, how do you know Iraq has no copyright laws? You have just admitted on a public forum to purchasing, and possessing illegal copies of a copyrighted work. That’s a FEDERAL OFFENSE, knothead! (one which is most likely monitored by the NSA)

    You have no problem breaking the law, if it suits your purpose. so much for supporting the “party of moral values.” you claim to be a christian? ever heard of the ten commandments? one of them is “thou shalt not steal.” by knowingly purchasing a bootleg copy, you knowingly stole. now go explain that to your god.

    I hope Michale Moore sues you!!!


  70. Gregor Samsa says:

    Keep in mind that this soldier was shown, out of context, denouncing the United States military action in Iraq and attacking President Bush.
    Comment by robert — November 27, 2006 @ 9:55 pm

    You are showing some reading comprehension issues. The article is clear that the lawsuit alleges Michael Moore’s film “denounces the United States military action in Iraq” by attacking President Bush. It says nothing about the film portraying Sgt. Damon in that light at all.

    Go back to the article and re-read it.


  71. robert says:

    #69, When you buy movies in Iraq, as I did, it is pretty clear that they are bootleg. The U.S. Customs Office allows us to bring ONE copy back to the States with us. Therefore, if it is legal to buy in Iraq and legal to bring back to the States then where is the legal violation. Trust me, this issue was investigated at length by the Staff Judge Advocates office to ensure service members were not violating the law.

    But you did show something here. You obviously have not read anything about the case other than maybe Michael Moore’s side. Try going back and looking at all the information before you call something a frivolous lawsuit. The Sgt tried to get an apology before hireing a lawyer. After being stonewalled, he decided to up the stakes in order to get that fat ass that wanted to use his image and words to at least recognize the mistake and misquote. As far as I know, Michael Moore still will not comment on the case. I guess he is above apologizing to soldiers. We are just there for his conveniance.

    You want to say that Bush and Company are using this war to line their pockets, but so are “people” like Moore.


  72. Briseadh na Faire says:

    71 – robert, my source of information was the article you provided. Whether or not the soldier asked for an apology is irrelevent as to the merits of the lawsuit. Based on the facts in your link and my knowledge of the cause of action for defamation and infliction of emotional distress, the grounds for this lawsuit looks extremely thin. Like I said above, keep us posted.

    Regarding the bootleg issue, can you show/link to any document where the U.S. government’s official policy is to allow anyone to bring in bootleg copies of material protected under domestic and/or international copyright?


  73. robert says:

    #72, BnF, I am trying to source a Document for you. Currently the only one I have access to can not be posted here as it is on a classified site.


  74. Larry from C says:

    BNF, waste of time arguing with troll Robert because the basis of his arguement is flawed.

    You want to say that Bush and Company are using this war to line their pockets, but so are “people” like Moore.

    No, Robert. I don’t “say” Bush & Co. are war profiteers. I can prove it.

    Michael Moore wants to END the war you dolt. Not prolong it. You’re a terrible judge of character if you think MM’s motivation is $$$$. The fact that you cannot tell a humanitarian from a group of megalomanic, sociopathic fascist monsters makes arguing with you something I will no longer do.


  75. WaltTheMan says:

    #73 – robert,
    You can look up the classifieds on http://www.anywho.com (Search under the “Yellow Pages”) or if you’re looking for ads, try almost any newspaper’s web site.


  76. Steve says:

    Regarding Brownback, apparently now you’re not fit be a judge if you KNOW someone gay.


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