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Americans see civil war in Iraq, want to withdraw.»

According to a new Harris poll, 68 percent of Americans say they believe there is a civil war in Iraq, compared with 14 percent who disagree. Only 13 percent think new Defense nominee Robert Gates will make the situation in Iraq better, versus 42 percent who think he will make no difference. “About half of those polled would like the government to set a timetable for withdrawal of U.S. troops in Iraq, while 18% favor withdrawing all U.S. troops now and 19% favor sending more troops to stabilize the situation.”




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95 Responses to “Americans see civil war in Iraq, want to withdraw.”

  1. SpudgeBoy Says:

    Impeach that crazy mother f*cker in the White House. The people have spoken, it is time to take the country back. January can’t come soon enough.


  2. Sharon Cox Says:

    I agree and bring all our troop’s home now…Not in a month, year or ten year’s like these crazy basterds want to do but right now….After we have done that we can beg for forgiveness and send them financial support to rebuild…..No more target’s on our troop’s back’s……These nations will finish their civil war’s or not and we should stay out of it…Blessings


  3. ItsJustKarma Says:

    If there wouldn’t be casualties of hundreds of thousands of innocent people including our own GI Joes and Janes we would have a reason to party. Unfortunately the little busch and his power enabler dickhead are still sitting at the trigger. Deluded people come up with the worst things when their paranoia takes over.


  4. Zooey Says:

    BushCo needs to be gone — immediately.


  5. margaret Says:

    With the possibility of a Saudi/Iranian fight over Iraq now I can’t see withdrawal any time soon. I sure wish that wasn’t the case.


  6. ItsJustKarma Says:

    Once again:
    Confiscate all the assets of all administration members and give 75% of the money to Iraq and 25% to low income
    taxpayers.


  7. Sharon Cox Says:

    OT sorry, did any one else see Lou Dobb’s show this afternoon.?….I came in late from walking the Bear in our winter blast and heard the nut bag is trying to sell off our airlines again.(bush).Only caught a minute of it….Any one else know anything.? I mentioned this tidy info a few month’s ago and now he’s bringing it up again. Several other things mentioned that lead us right back to the insanety of bush, why is he on the loose, he needs to be charged and comitted in the insane ward of a maximum prison..Blessings all


  8. TripMaster Monkey Says:

    Yes, yes…those are telling numbers, but does it really matter? Since when has Chimpy given a damn about what the proles think? After all, he’s “the Decider”…

    One can only hope that the 110th Congress actually honor their commitment and reflect the will of the people who put them in office.


  9. unbelievable Says:

    I agree and bring all our troop’s home now…
    Comment by Sharon Cox — November 29, 2006 @ 9:16 pm

    Hi Sharon - haven’t seen you in a bit. How’s the tree hugging going (I am assuming with the win on November 7th, you’ve taken a respite from the petition signing? :)

    I really hope we’re not disappointed in January. I do think Nancy Pelosi means business. I just hope she can make some real progress.

    I guess we shall see. Rest your signing hand just in case :)


  10. unbelievable Says:

    Confiscate all the assets of all administration members and give 75% of the money to Iraq and 25% to low income
    taxpayers.
    Comment by ItsJustKarma — November 29, 2006 @ 9:25 pm

    I wholly agree with that. These war criminals, and not the overworked and underpaid We The People, should be made to pay for the mess they’ve made in Iraq.


  11. Matthew J. Price Says:

    I’m tired of the right-wing having all the institutional advantages over us. There needs to be a more urgent effort by the Left to get our own media message machine in place. Sure we have the Democracy Alliance and MoveOn.org currently working on this but we have to work harder. At this rate it may take us another ten years before we have the same media advantages as the Reich-Wing. We have to use 2007 very wisely by further laying the groundwork for future Liberal victories. We need to restore the glory of Liberalism. Remember people, it took the right-wingers over fourty years to get where they were in 2006. It shouldn’t take us half as long because most of America agrees with us anyway. So let’s get cracking and use our time in 2007 to ensure that our GOTV efforts are even stronger in 2008 than they were in 2006. We must invest in efforts to microtarget voters in as many districts as possible while running candidates in every district.


  12. Sharon Cox Says:

    Hay Mr. Green Jean’s, I said an insane ward of a maximum prison, but I do like all the added disconfort’s you suggested…Sound’s good. Wish we could of started yesterday before the crazy basterd started more big time crap in selling out our country..Listen to the new’s tomorrow folk’s it’s about to get real ugly…

    Unbelievable..Back at ya, had lot’s of computer and health issues, big time along with trying to keep up with my tree hugging….We got hit with an arctic blast and everything froze up, except my 120 pound Bear…Any one here ever thought about what’s at the end of the leash you are holding on to when there’s solid ice every where…..LOL…Let go of the leash…..Blessings


  13. veritas Says:

    Each death that occurs now following 69% of americans SCREAMING for withdrawal will be considered by the people to be a “war crime” against this administration. Impeach the sick, twisted neocon fools before they do more damage and cause more deaths. How many deaths is Chavez responsible for? Who’s the sulphuric one?


  14. veritas Says:

    karmically speaking, this country is in for a whole lotta hell on earth after what we’ve done.


  15. John Gilpins Says:

    Pardon me, but I don’t get this. If something looks like a “civil” war, has every appearance of a “civil war–ain’t it a “civil” war? A civil war is a civil war is a civil war is a civil war.

    You can dress a pig up in fancy clothes, spray him with fancy perfume, paint his nails, call him Mr. Gorgeous, but he’s still a pig. A pig is a pig is a pig is pig is pig.

    George Bush can spray his hair with hairspray like all the Christian, fundamentalist, televangelists do, wear bright-colored polyester purple suits, have 29 Bibles in hands, yell “Praise Jesus,” but he’s still a non-Christian. This guy’s a fake. In fact, he resembles a pig more than a Christian.

    I call this war a: CIVIL war. You can call it what you want. I call George Bush a phony. Call him what you want. He ain’t no Christian–that’s for sure.

    John


  16. Sharon Cox Says:

    Good post’s all and it may be we will have to fight right here to get our polatician’s to do their job and rid our country of the terrible cancer (bush administration)…..The madness is not going to end untill they are out of the white house and as I said before it’s a long time to January…It seem’s this bunch want’s to lump us together with Mexico and Canada, well bush does, guess he want’s to start his dictatorship with 3 countries, not just our’s….Still selling out our country……I can’t for the life of me understand why he hasen’t been dethroned by now, clearly he is the sickest monster I have ever seen or read about……Close to 700,000 killed by neglect or design is staggering to me and yes Veritas we have a terrible Karmic debt to repay, even though most of us were not at fault it was done in our name….Blessings, the world need’s them


  17. Zooey Says:

    Hey Sharon,

    Could you send a little heat wave my way? **shiver**


  18. JPark Says:

    #20 The temp dropped 30 degrees during the day here.


  19. Marie Says:

    We must turn away from the course Bush has set us on - January will be the start, but far from the end.
    Be wary, though, because miracles will be expected — and the mess Bush has created will be difficult if not impossible to clean up. But that won’t stop Bushies from blaming Dems when the clean up and repairs aren’t accomplished in 90 days. The propaganda machine of the repugs will be quick to expect those miracles and ignore the fact that their guys are still in charge. Dems can begin to effect a change, but with Dubya and Dick in the White House, their power will be limited.
    I hope that before the end of this decade, we will see them tried for war crimes internationally, and treason domestically.


  20. Zooey Says:

    JPark,

    From what temp?


  21. Marie Says:

    Joe Wilson said he fears that when the US finally does leave Iraq, they may have to shoot their way out.
    Chaos and mayhem if we stay - Chaos and mayhem if we go.


  22. RUCerious Says:

    Incredibly goddamn sad that about as many want more troops in as thems that want all troops out now.


  23. Jay Randal Says:

    Still warm on Wednesday in Georgia and not to bad tonight either, but winter cold is coming in a day or two. Bush’s daughters being told to remain out of the US has me worried that Dubya Dunce Decider Despot is up to something nasty, like attacking Iran soon, so that could mean martial law and emergency draft, hence his daughters tucked away from having to be drafted. Something sinister is amiss I am afraid?!


  24. JPark Says:

    The high was about 55. It is 27 now. Not horrible but I am not used to freezing weather yet.


  25. JPark Says:

    #24 Marie, it won’t be that heroic. It will be like Vietnam where we are airlifting our troops from rooftops.


  26. Zooey Says:

    JPark,

    Our high was 22 degrees today, low 10 degrees. Brrrrr!


  27. veritas Says:

    Gates will become a non-entity when his complicity with VoteHere, the group responsible for ramming through the Help America Vote Act and the corrupt touch screen voting machines becomes investigated following all of the voting debacles throughout this country which are still reeking of “tampering” and “skewing” of totals….undervotes, and outright flipping of votes….how democratic is that, folks? We KNOW WITHOUT A DOUBT that these machines were hacked in 2004 and again in the midterms. If the people fight for investigations of how these elections were “stolen”, the rats will be exposed…and our new guy on the block, Gates, will come out with some serious egg on his face in this one. He may be booted before he even is able to “see the interior decorator about the color of his new office walls and drapes”…heh-heh!


  28. Marie Says:

    The NYT is reporting that the Iraq Study Grp is recommending gradual withdrawal of troops from Iraq.


  29. JPark Says:

    Hmm, Zooey, not good. That is January weather for us!!


  30. John Gilpins Says:

    It’s unbelievable that George W. Bush hasn’t been dethroned.

    Even the most-Reverend Ted Haggard was dethroned. His downfall was sleeping with hookers–male hookers. Our President is reportedly sleeping with hookers–male hookers, yet he’s still in office. Our country is soooooooooooooooo homophobic, yet Bush is still in office.

    The most logical reason he’s still in office is because sooooooo many people are making millions of dollars. They have the real power, and they want him in office. We’re supposed to shut up. We won’t shut up. Get that! Get that!

    I really, really don’t know what it’s going to take to get this turkey out of office. Our constitution is clearly not working, and it hasn’t been working for a long time. If it’s not working, that’s not good. Not good at all. Not good at all. Not good at all. Not good at all.

    The world is blowing up, and the next place is right here in the United States. People are fed up and they are not going to take it anymore.

    Stealing elections, stealing money, thousands of young, American men and women dying in Iraq. Thoughts to ponder.

    I hope these thugs rot in hell.

    John


  31. stonehinge Says:

    sound check


  32. John Gilpins Says:

    Cold weather–where? Really!

    I’m sitting here in my shorts, with my fan out on the patio blowing cool air into my house. You poor things up in the North.

    John


  33. Zooey Says:

    Cold weather–where? Really!
    I’m sitting here in my shorts, with my fan out on the patio blowing cool air into my house. You poor things up in the North.
    John

    I will laugh at you next summer, with my High of 80. :-)


  34. Sharon Cox Says:

    I agree with the poster’s that are saying something is going on that look’s bad…Lot’s of creepy stuff bull shit bush is pulling…While he is doing his administration’s evil bidding the world is aflame and thousand’s are dieing…..My old tired heart is bleeding for all the losses and for the famalies every where that are grieving like me…..For many people who have lost the most important loved ones in their lives the grief goes on for ever and if possible a person work’s for peaceful change…For others the grief is so great they become freedom fighters…I’m to old and tired to be a freedom fighter so I must work for Peace…..Join me and do what you can.

    In one of my earlier posts I mentioned we may have to fight to get this horrible bunch indicted, impeached, imprisoned and held accountable and I think we will, maybe not in a war like sence but in a marching, boycott and work stoppage type of uprising…..It’s going to take all our strength and know how to pull this off..Letter writing may not be enough for all we need to do.

    Would like to send you some warm Zooey, it was 18 here this morning, suposto warm up and snow tonight…I may get my pipes thawed by Saturday if the weather lier is finelly telling the truth…LOL..Good to see you’re posts Marie and all, have not been around much. Sorry to be off topic if the topic police is reading..LOL again…Blessings


  35. Zooey Says:

    Ouch. Sorry about your pipes, Sharon. That’s a giant pain in the ass — but I don’t need to tell you.

    We’ll get this country back, just wait and see. :)


  36. dick van dyke Says:

    we need to put more troops inside of michelle malkin, michael medved, ann coulter, and those she0males melanie morgan and laura ingraham…


  37. JPark Says:

    #36 Agreed, I visited Arizona this summer (to take my son to see his mom) and it was fricking miserable. I don’t know why those desert dwellers don’t kill themselves more often.


  38. ann coulter Says:

    have i told you all lately how much i HATE you all!


  39. JPark Says:

    I think we just need to unleash Michael Weiner on them all. He hates everybody.


  40. stonehinge Says:

    Gosh Ann, it’s such an honor to hear that from you. I never dreamed that I would one day wear the hatred of another person as a badge of honor. Thank you for sharing that with us.

    On another front –

    I wish these TP Post-Monitor-Jerks had the decency to publish at least some minimal guidelines for post acceptability. It is such a waste of time and talent to see these posts get trashed, especially when the contents could not possibly be construed as objectionable.


  41. Zooey Says:

    Hey j, how’s it going?


  42. JPark Says:

    #43 Stone, I am not sure what is acceptable either. I have posted many vulgar, offensive things and have never been censored :) Maybe it is your computer.


  43. RealScientist Says:

    This issue has become a basic test of intelligence and character. If you belong to the 32% who don’t recognize that Iraq is a civil war, there is something wrong with you. Either you are absolutely stupid, pathetically ignorant, a hardcore liar, outright delusional, or some combination thereof. Of course, I just gave a perfect description of our President.


  44. stonehinge Says:

    Go here to see the latest study which confirms that the 31% who still support Bushco are all certifiably insane.


  45. dick van dyke Says:

    stone,

    don’t mention the following:

    john negroponte
    aipac
    9.11
    pnac
    aipac
    israel
    israel
    thinktanks
    special interest groups
    israel
    the cia
    mossad
    aipac,
    and, did i mention israel and aipac?

    you should be fine. anything else goes…best if you are a troll and if you call regular posters/people anti-semetic and terrorists. and, don’t talk directly to the staff, mention that they are from georgetown and should know better, and, above all else, i should mention that you can’t talk about aipac or israel.

    shalom


  46. Sharon Cox Says:

    Thank you Stonehinge, I think.

    We can only hope Zooey……Nite all..Blessings and Peace….


  47. JPark Says:

    Well, I do agree that you fricking AIPAC hating crazies are a bit tin foily. I would probably ban your ass too.


  48. stonehinge Says:

    I never post anything offensive or vulgar, so I can’t speak to that. The stuff that gets censored seems to involve certain links and references to certain public figures. Yet, it seems impossible to determine in advance what will actually be deleted.


  49. JPark Says:

    There must be a pattern stone. 9-11? AIPAC? Not stolen elections, that is only fricking Kos.


  50. dick van dyke Says:

    who is this j of which you speak, z?

    is it just me, or are the number of posts dwindling around this place?

    oh, and jpark, it depends which ox you gore…some are much more sacred than others…see dick van dyke above.


  51. stonehinge Says:

    Yeah, it looks like it was the reference to W-o-n-k-e-t-t-e that got me busted. Hahhh, that TinyURL go-around worked pretty damn well [polishing fingernails on breastplate].

    And, DVD, since you just managed to publish a list of forbidden words, how exactly do you figger they are forbidden? LOL


  52. JPark Says:

    DVD, I am not a fan of AIPAC or zionists. I don’t think that this country (other than the neocons and Joe Lieberman) gives a damn about Israel enough to bow down and worship at the AIPAC alter.


  53. Zooey Says:

    You know who you are dick. Are you a band member again?


  54. JPark Says:

    stone, he doesn’t know. Otherwise he would have been deleted. I don’t think TP is jealous of the beautiful Wonkette, either.


  55. stonehinge Says:

    JPark —

    Failure to despise AIPAC is a sure sign of mental illness. Keep up that kind of talk and you might be subject to an intervention.


  56. JPark Says:

    I dislike AIPAC. I am not paranoid about their supposed power.


  57. stonehinge Says:

    OK, here’s the test…wonkette…this tests the explicit text. Next I will test the hyperlink syntax.


  58. stonehinge Says:

    yep…our niggardly TP overlords fear the w-o-n-k-e-t-t-e word. I just ran a simple text and it got trashed.


  59. dick van dyke Says:

    stone, my friend, please check this thread tomorrow afternoon and i will bet you the posts will be deleted… z can testify to this too, if she would like to throw her two-cents to the topic…

    jpark, i don’t want to brag at all, but, i believe i have been banned and have had more posts deleted than anyone else…. i know of what i speak. if you doubt me, try it out and see what happens sometime. do a post musing on whether and to what extent think progress is funded by, and is therefore beholding, to certain concerns.

    z…


  60. Bingo! Says:

    So called Zionism and the state of Israel (not Jewish people per se.) are the root of unrest in the Middle East.


  61. JPark Says:

    stone, no it didn’t. I said wonkette, you said wonkette. They are both still there.


  62. stonehinge Says:

    woops, that was a negative test — wonkette in the text passed

    now for the hyperlink:

    New Study Shows Bush Supporters Certifiably Wack


  63. JPark Says:

    Ok, DVD, muse away…and provide links to prove it. Otherwise, you are just being an asshole.


  64. JPark Says:

    Stone, it isn’t going to happen. I think you are on the wrong path. Unless you link to something on several different threads. Then, I bet you get banned since you are indescriminately linking to something that has nothing to do with the topic.


  65. Zooey Says:

    stonehinge & JPark,

    Yes, our friend “dick van dyke” aka “ann coulter” has been around here for quite a while, and is apparently on his second time being banned. I have tried several times this evening to comment using his name, and none of them have shown up. His comments will most likely be gone tomorrow. They treat him like frickin’ Santo.

    They’ve really got the filter set on “fine” for you, j. Did you piss TP off with AIPAC or Israel?

    Check out j’s blog “f*ck bush” to find out who I’m talking about. Of course, remove the cute little *.

    I miss you j! I hope you’ll be able to come back soon.


  66. stonehinge Says:

    Ok, DVD, I will do exactly as you recommend and check back tomorrow. However, it would not surprise me to see limits imposed by financial considerations. In fact, it is quite remarkable that this site continues to exist without the ads or the tip jar seen on so many other sites. That would also account for the total lack of coverage of the recent escalations in the Palestinian Holocaust.

    Such stuff has been known to induce vertigo in an otherwise perfectly healthy minotaur.


  67. dick van dyke Says:

    i am being an ‘asshole’? first, i was helping stone with his frustration over having posts deleted–a feeling i have had dozens and dozens of times.

    let me get this straight: you want me to supply you links to deleted posts…please explain how one could do that? and, if i fail to do so, i am being an ‘asshole’? if z i still around she might give independent evidence since she has seen many of our posts vanished…

    wow…

    but, that proves another theorem of deletion… you can say anything you want to anyone who is on the far left fringe of the debate, without being deleted. you can call me an anti-semetic terrorist and the post will still be here tomorrow night, but, if i say it is hypocritical of think progress to ignore the struggle of palestinians or point out the war-crimes perpetrated by ehud olmert, on behalf of george bush, with the backing of aipac and their related, bought-off think tanks and other whores, it will be deleted.


  68. stonehinge Says:

    Zooey, do you have a link for that blog? Googling on the de-sanitized “f*ck bush” turns up a paltry 135,000 citations. Think we could cut that down a bit?


  69. Zooey Says:

    So that’s how you pissed them off, j? Geez….

    Stonehinge,

    Do you see my comment at #68? Please read it.


  70. Juan C Says:

    About AIPAC:

    Karen Kwiatkowski was an eyewitness in NESA, and Lobe reports:

    “[S]he recounts one incident in which she helped escort a group of half a dozen Israelis, including several generals, from the first floor reception area to Feith’s office. ‘We just followed them, because they knew exactly where they were going and moving fast.’ When the group arrived, she noted the book which all visitors are required to sign under special regulations that took effect after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks. ‘I asked his secretary, “Do you want these guys to sign in?” She said, “No, these guys don’t have to sign in.”‘ It occurred to her, she said, that the office may have deliberately not wanted to maintain a record of the meeting.”


  71. Juan C Says:

    Hi there, james.


  72. Zooey Says:

    stonehinge,

    I’ll try again:

    www dot r-i-s-s-e-r-c-o-u-k dot blogspot dot com/

    Obviously, replace the words “dot” with dots; and remove all of the dashes.


  73. Zooey Says:

    I’m trying, j.

    My comments aren’t showing up. Sorry.


  74. stonehinge Says:

    Zooey, I read #68 but that doesn’t get me any farther down the line. Two different formulations of my reference to the mental health study were trashed. But, now the link shows up just fine and the wonkette text worked just fine as well. So, whatever triggered the rejection was not related to these. So, whatever else it could have been was this and that and other connective verbiage. How asinine.


  75. Zooey Says:

    Finally….geez.


  76. Juan C Says:

    did you see ‘why we fight’ juan? ms kw is in quite a bit…
    Comment by dick van dyke

    Whats that? Sounds like a movie, but no. Hey, BTW did you see “The Take” a documentary of Naomi Klein. Im trying to get it or download it.


  77. Zooey Says:

    Damn, j, I didn’t spot you as mr green jeans. A little too far around the bend, I guess. :}

    stonehinge, it’s hard to explain because if I make it too clear, my comment doesn’t show up, because it’s about the person pretending to be dick van dyke. Sorry.


  78. Zooey Says:

    I’m going to bed. This is too exhausting. You must tear your hair out, james.

    Oh well, tomorrow all of james’ comments will be gone, and we’ll look like a bunch of retards. *sigh*

    Goodnight!


  79. Juan C Says:

    More from a Dutch reporter in Israel:

    Luyendijk spent some time in Israel/Palestine, or “the Holy Land,” as he cautiously calls it. The circumstances here, as he describes, are extremely different. If the main problem in the Arab world was a lack of information, due mainly to a lack of democratic freedom and to authoritative regimes, basically turning the reporter’s professional life into hell, Israel was a journalistic heaven. Luyendijk describes an overwhelming, perfectly oiled propaganda machine, super-professionally run by the Israeli government and army. The reporter is spoiled by an endless stream of information, perfectly tuned to his needs. The Israelis spoil their guests with exhaustive lists of eloquent speakers, from academic talking heads to common people, ready to say in any of some 40 different languages those precious sound bites that television loves so much. You need a Dutch-speaking West Bank settler who lost a spouse in a terror attack? No problem, here are several phone numbers, here are the quotes, here’s an expert’s view, here’s some recent footage. The foreign reporter can just sit back in his armchair, and the Israeli PR machine will do his work better than he could ever dream of. In a matter of hours after a suicide attack, the Israeli army can take you to the bomber’s family, to hear a proud and delighted father wishing all his children would follow his brave son and kill Jews and heathens.

    This is just to prove if these comments show or not…


  80. JPark Says:

    DVD, were you the one that was talking AIPAC?


  81. stonehinge Says:

    Goodnite, zooey, i got it!!! Sorry if I seemed a bit dense.


  82. Juan C Says:

    Goodnight!
    Comment by Zooey

    Be well, Zoo. Must be cold there.


  83. Juan C Says:

    Luyendijk illustrates the overwhelming Israeli media superiority in the notorious lynching of two Israeli soldiers in Ramallah in October 2000, cynically exploited by Ehud Barak’s government to mobilize home and international support for the murderous oppression of the Intifada. Luyendijk shows how the Israeli propaganda machine, followed by the Western media, portrayed the event as that of two innocent Israelis abused and killed by a Palestinian mob, their corpses thrown out of a window in Ramallah – we all remember the pictures. The Palestinian side of the story was left unheard: the two uniformed Israeli soldiers entered the autonomous Ramallah during the mass funeral of a Palestinian child, whose body was found in an Israeli settlement a day before: that’s why so many media teams happened to be in Ramallah at the time. Rumors spread that the soldiers invaded Ramallah in order to spill even more Palestinian blood. This does not excuse their killing, but two uniformed occupier’s soldiers violating Palestinian autonomous territory during a funeral of a murdered child is a very different story from the one that stayed in the Western collective memory – namely, as yet another instance of the eternal framing “They are killing innocent Jews” (file under anti-Semitism, Holocaust, etc.).


  84. Josh P. Says:

    I am sorry, but I am about to just go ‘Vietnam’ on this. Let’s get out. Let’s get out now. I don’t give a sh:t waht happens after we leave. Could it be any worse than the 600,000 we have already caused to die? Seriously, I’m done.

    http://www.getsomejosh.com


  85. JPark Says:

    Ok, let’s all blame Israel instead of Bush. Got it. I don’t get the point of that. Israel sucks but that doesn’t mean our politicians have to follow them into everything. And they certainly don’t have the money to trump our business interests. Give it up.


  86. stonehinge Says:

    DVD, i tried to leave a message on your blog to let you know that I dropped by, but I don’t have an account. I also intended to say that I really admire your efforts to find and post what I consider to be timely and important information. So now, it’s been said. Until next time, good luck and keep up the great work.


  87. stonehinge Says:

    JPark, the connection runs much deeper that you seem to realize. In our present situation, nothing makes any sense at all until we factor-in the historical and philosophical impact of Zionism. There is an extremely enlightening article on the Atlantic Free Press that you might want to read.


  88. John Gilpins Says:

    Zooey,

    Yeah, your summer climate is most likely a bit better than here. More than a bit, but I don’t mind hot weather. I’m NOT a cold weather person.

    I checked Bozeman Montana’s temperature earlier this evening–8 degrees below zero. That’s cold, and it’s not even December yet.

    Obviously, global warming hasn’t hit Bozeman yet. Dubya has two more years left in office, so Bozemanites can look forward to warmer temperatures–that’s for sure.

    John


  89. Uncle_Ho Says:

    The American people cast their ballots on Nov 7 with a strong message to get out of Iraq. yet, Bush pokes a stick in the eye of the American people yesterday reiterating his position of staying in Iraq to the bitter end. Destroy this Nazi pig before he destroys us.


  90. veritas Says:

    The people HAVE ALWAYS been wiser and smarter than the chimps in the white house!


  91. Evil Spaniard Says:

    Testing, testing…


  92. Evil Spaniard Says:

    Albricias! I’m in again!

    Here, in my city, the climate is strange also: temperature is a temperate one too warm for december here… since some years ago the winter comes later and later… and in other Spain’s locations, unprecedented rains and a lot of villages flooded…


  93. Billy Big Rig Says:

    You gotta hand it to Preznit Bush Jr. As long as they’s a single drop of red American blood to be drained into the fertile sands of Baghdad he’s gonna stay the course! He understands that if at first you don’t succeed, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try (pause to relieve hand cramp), try, try, try again!

    If we gots to leave troops there fer THOUSANDS of years, it’s the right thing to do if it will keep the Islamofascistterroristevildoers from invading Terre Haute to force the babies to pray to Mecca at gunpoint.


  94. Egoigwe Says:

    Question is; why is Congress sitting on its fat, big ass while GW goes on the rampage? Methinks, with all that wiretapping et al going on Dumb Dubya may not be so dumb afterall. Did anyone stop to think he may have accessed enough incriminating material on each and every member of that do-nothing House to whip them all in line? Considering his pedigree and his family’s it should be pretty clear that perhaps the original targets for his wiretap program may have been, in all reality Senators and Congressmen and before they even woke to the reality on ground it was too late for them to scream HELP being the corrupt goons that they all are!!! I won’t hold my breath for January cos Pelossi can’t walk that distance all alone.


  95. Egoigwe Says:

    … And i mustn’t forget to add; this whole thing is a matter for the American people to sort out. It is time to impeach for peace here on Earth. We all must rise to the occasion and get this impeachment thing going, it’s the only language they’ll ever understand. It’s time to do the right thing; bring out the Red Card, America! Throw the flag out!



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