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Board that protested peace wreath resigns.»

“Last week, a couple were threatened with fines of $25 a day by their homeowners’ association unless they removed a four-foot wreath shaped like a peace symbol from the front of their house,” the New York Times reports. “The fines have been dropped, and the three-member board of the association has resigned, according to an e-mail message sent to residents on Monday.”




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122 Responses to “Board that protested peace wreath resigns.”

  1. KikiD Says:

    I heard that peace signs are now popping up all over that town. Way to go, patriotic Americans!


  2. Ronin_Tetsuro Says:

    Excellent.

    Those people shouldn’t be allowed to control head on a beer, much less a neighborhood.

    Sign of the devil, indeed. Good riddance.


  3. DieNowForPeace Says:

    What kind of “ma-roon” mistakes a peace symbol for a satanic one?

    The lowest common denominator of society has sunk to a new low of idiocy.

    Like the sub-division in Florida (?) I saw on Colbert which was up in ARMS over a woman’s EXCESSIVE display of American flags!

    Homeowner’s ASSociations are mostly useless.


  4. CoffinsDrapedWithFlags Says:

    My Christmas cards say “Peace on Earth”. Jesus, the Prince of Peace - and the angels sang “Peace on earth, good will to men”. This peace sign represents Christmas more than Santa Claus, fir trees, and shopping. Those former board members have started a ‘war on Christmas’ by trying to remove the Prince of Peace.

    Only goes to show you… Jesus, a liberal persecuted by conservatives.


  5. katy Says:

    A board member later told a newspaper that he thought the familiar circle with angled lines was also, perhaps, a sign of the devil.

    funny… he must be confusing the upside down stars, or pentagrams, featured prominently on the GOP logo…


  6. squegeeboo Says:

    This peace sign represents Christmas more than Santa Claus

    But He died for our sins.


  7. RealScientist Says:

    Homeowners associations are mostly run by busy bodies and control freaks. But these people take the cake. It is good to seem them get stuffed.


  8. trueblue Says:

    If the people in that neighborhood knew the story behind the wreath and fir tree, (its’ pagan roots and what it really represents) there’d be a mighty need for smelling salts!
    Boy, I’d really like to witness that…
    :)


  9. ForTruth Says:

    They didn’t like the peace sign because it is usually associated with liberalism. Then the story broke across the country, they probably recieved a lot of heat, were exposed for the jokes that they are, and bye now.
    I avoid HOA’s and live in a neigborhood without one, very rare. The stories I hear. I bet they are run by busy bodies and control freaks.


  10. Xenon Says:

    I take it a swastika would have been acceptable?


  11. War4Sale Says:

    So they surrendered to the “Satan” loving pacifists, eh?

    That’s hilarious!


  12. michael Says:

    Kind of like when you liberals go bonkers at the thought of having a replica of the Ten Commandments in some judge’s court house. What goes around comes around!


  13. SpudgeBoy Says:

    This peace sign represents Christmas more than Santa Claus

    But He died for our sins.

    Comment by squegeeboo — November 29, 2006 @ 4:20 pm

    Now that was funny.


  14. SpudgeBoy Says:

    Kind of like when you liberals go bonkers at the thought of having a replica of the Ten Commandments in some judge’s court house. What goes around comes around!

    Comment by michael — November 29, 2006 @ 4:33 pm

    This is nothing like the ten commandments being displayed at a court house. Zero, zip, ziltch, nada.

    BTW: We are progressives, not liberals.


  15. trueblue Says:

    Not even close, michael.
    Sorry, try again


  16. trueblue Says:

    Hi Spudge_Boy!


  17. RantingTommy Says:

    It’s amazing that adult persons still believe in “satan” and “god”.

    And people wonder why a lot of us consider religion a mental disease.


  18. ItsJustKarma Says:

    Where is the ‘Impeach-Wrath’?


  19. katy Says:

    off topic, but really interesting, to say the least…
    randi rhodes is reading a letter ‘to america’ from ahmadinejad… when she quit for a break - it is another lengthy one - she said it goes on to mention the winners of the election, aka the dems, and so just wait to hear the righties clamor about how it was written to the dems, but it was written to ALL americans…

    Text of Iran president’s letter to the U.S.
    ‘Both our nations are God-fearing, truth-loving and justice-seeking’
    Updated: 12:18 p.m. MT Nov 29, 2006
    Message of H.E. Dr. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
    President of the Islamic Republic of Iran To the American People

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15952309/
    .


  20. ItsJustKarma Says:

    Religion=People’s Opium
    Evangelicals=Overdosed Opiumheads


  21. ForTruth Says:

    Katy I just checked out that story and even did that MSN vote. Interesting stuff. We should read his letters, and open up dialogue with the guy. He does have a Ph.D.


  22. ItsJustKarma Says:

    I posted it on another thread as well. Get it uncensored here. Just replace the underscore with a dot.
    http://www_un.int/ iran/ pressaffairs/ pressreleases/ 2006/ articles/ 13.htm


  23. Wayne Says:

    Kind of like when you liberals go bonkers at the thought of having a replica of the Ten Commandments in some judge’s court house. What goes around comes around! —– michael

    Not even close, lame, lame , lame.

    First a courthouse belongs to the government, not a judge.
    there is a constitutional separation of church and state. Government cannot constitutionally support any religion.

    Now if you want to put the 10 commandments, the koran or the pentagram on your house, go for it, that is free speach

    That changes once you put it on governemtn property.


  24. michael Says:

    “I just ADORE those little MENTAL PRETZELS you CRAZY CHRISTIANS twist yourselves INTO!!”

    First of all I don’t consider myself a practicing Christian. Religion has nothing to do with this. I just think it’s quite hypocritical that a symbol such as a replica of the Ten Commandments can be so offensive to you lefties but a peace symbol is so sacred that you criticize a group of people who are trying to enforce a set of rules that every resident agreed to prior to moving into the complex.


  25. katy Says:

    for truth - i wonder how many of those who voted NO have even read any of his comments…

    Are you interested in what Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has to say?
    Yes. The only way out of a possible U.S.-Iran confrontation is through dialogue. 50%
    No. His past comments have been too offensive — and potentially dangerous. 43%
    I’m not sure. 6.6%


  26. trueblue Says:

    Currently 50% want dialogue, 43% say no. (6.5% undecided)
    Not that Bush would ever dream of doing the right thing and talk to the guy….


  27. trueblue Says:

    Michael,
    Did you not read the last 15 comments?
    (Starting with Spudge @ #15)

    The Ten Commandments is not a “symbol”, therefore not comparable.


  28. Wayne Says:

    #29 blah, blah — Michael

    Your argument is meaningless and you are being obtuse.
    sheesh.

    The board resigned, did you read the article? didn’t think so.


  29. Rebel In CA Says:


    A board member later told a newspaper that he thought the familiar circle with angled lines was also, perhaps, a sign of the devil.

    What no body drives a Mecedes in that town?


  30. michael Says:

    “The Ten Commandments is not a “symbol”, therefore not comparable.”

    You’re spinning blue! I don’t care what the symbol is, I just think it’s great that a set of agreed upon rules is sending your beloved peace symbol to the tank!


  31. ForTruth Says:

    Michael,

    A peace sign is not a religious symbol, and a residence is not a government building. Apples and oranges. I know where you are trying to go, but it just didn’t cut the mustard. Try again.


  32. trueblue Says:

    Read the posts, Michael.
    Forget me, if you think I’m spinning.
    READ!


  33. ForTruth Says:

    Katy,

    I would bet the 43% never read his comments. I thought his comments were sound and sane, unlike the decider’s.


  34. June Says:

    Ten Commandments can be so offensive

    Not “offensive”, illegal and that is because the Constitution says so. You should read it sometime, along with the 10 Commandments.


  35. trueblue Says:

    Not “offensive”, illegal and that is because the Constitution says so. You should read it sometime, along with the 10 Commandments.

    Comment by June

    *snap*, June!
    :)


  36. CoffinsDrapedWithFlags Says:

    Michael from Stupidistan,

    Kind of like when you liberals go bonkers at the thought of having a replica of the Ten Commandments in some judge’s court house. What goes around comes around!

    Comment by michael — November 29, 2006 @ 4:33 pm

    A court house is “public property” which is different than “private property”. My mistake for thinking that you knew the difference.


  37. katy Says:

    ok - you really don’t deserve this attention, but it must be pointed out:

    a set of agreed upon rules is sending your beloved peace symbol to the tank!
    Comment by michael — November 29, 2006 @ 5:09 pm

    READ THE DAMN ARTICLE… AND THE COMMENTS…
    STOP BEING STOOPID.
    .


  38. CoffinsDrapedWithFlags Says:


    Where is the ‘Impeach-Wrath’?

    Comment by ItsJustKarma — November 29, 2006 @ 4:50 pm

    Good point. Something to work on. When I get one made, I’ll let you know and a picture will be posted on the url link for CoffinsDrapedWithFlags.


  39. michael Says:

    “A court house is “public property” which is different than “private property”. My mistake for thinking that you knew the difference.”

    Once again you should re-read my posts. I wasn’t trying to equate the two, I was just showing the lefts hypocricy!


  40. Gregor Samsa Says:

    I just think it’s great that a set of agreed upon rules is sending your beloved peace symbol to the tank!
    Comment by michael — November 29, 2006 @ 5:09 pm

    I don’t know about the HOA’s rules in the development in question, but sending a letter complaining about the wreath being “politically divisive” cannot conceivably be part of enforcing a set of “agreed upon rules”. Does your HOA have rules against signs that might be politically divisive? Is your HOA in charge of ensuring political uniformity in your community?

    This is really about a bunch of control freaks who felt threatened (because they are so insecure) by a peace sign, and tried to punish those responsible for the display. Nothing more.


  41. June Says:

    Yeah true, I call that my “snap, snap, twist” ;)

    I Heart Trolls

    The article didn’t say wether or not the board members who were fired for supporting the peace wreath are going to be re-instated.


  42. Gregor Samsa Says:

    I wasn’t trying to equate the two, I was just showing the lefts hypocricy!
    Comment by michael — November 29, 2006 @ 5:26 pm

    If displaying the ten commandments in a court house is not akin to a peace sign on a residencial building, then there is no hypocrisy to highlight.

    It is only hypocritical if the two situations are equivalent. But you just admitted they aren’t.


  43. Wayne Says:

    Once again you should re-read my posts. I wasn’t trying to equate the two, I was just showing the lefts hypocricy!
    – michael

    Instead you are proving to everyone here that you are an idiot.

    Time to ignore the poor fool folks, he can’t get two brain cells firing at the same time. Pity the fool.


  44. Exley Says:

    HANK: How about I buy you an ornament? (Holds one that reads “Peace on Earth”)

    COTTON: “Peace?” You would like that, you draft-dodger! Sure you can’t find one with a flag-burning on it?

    HANK: It’s Jesus peace, not hippie peace.


  45. Raven Says:

    Maybe mr. michael can find meaningful employment in Pagosa Springs. With the resignation of the three board members today, plus the 5 committee members the HOA president fired when they wouldn’t follow his dictates, there’s got to be a suitable position available for a man with his exceptionaly tubal vision………
    Tell the HOA president you come highly reccommended from this august progressive body. On second thought, better not, we sincerely hope you do find a real job……..


  46. June Says:

    50. I’d go w/ the classic “W” with a Blood Red ribbon diagonally across it… put me down for 2.


  47. Raven Says:

    visual idea for the Impeach wreath….
    a big rotten peach, with a Dubious-headed worm poking out of it………


  48. chimpeach Says:

    #29 michael

    I just think it’s quite hypocritical that a symbol such as a replica of the Ten Commandments can be so offensive to you lefties

    I think it’s amusing that you righties want to post the Ten Commandments everywhere, but either you’ve never read them before or you don’t think it’s that big a deal to violate them.


  49. ForTruth Says:

    Nice one Raven.


  50. Zooey Says:

    Homeowners associations are mostly run by busy bodies and control freaks. But these people take the cake. It is good to seem them get stuffed.
    Comment by RealScientist

    The stories I hear. I bet they are run by busy bodies and control freaks.
    Comment by ForTruth

    I am neither a busy body nor a control freak! That board resigned in protest, and so would I. :P


  51. Daryll Says:

    Here you go libs:

    Jeremiah 10

    3 Their ways are futile and foolish.
    They cut down a tree, and a craftsman carves an idol.
    4 They decorate it with gold and silver
    and then fasten it securely with hammer and nails
    so it won’t fall over.

    You can categorize a wreath as a smaller christmas tree with ornaments or a bow. The couple is biblically considered foolish. I will probably be ridiculed for not adding decorations to my house, but I must follow god’s law.


  52. Raven Says:

    Hey Daryll, how’s it goin man? Hey, there’s a guy who could really use some of your enlightened counseling, his name is O.J.O’Reilly, and he’s got this War on Christmas thing goin’ on, just like you’re talking about………….


  53. hellinabucket Says:

    Daryll, are you suggesting that people are now idolizing peace signs? It’s a sign for peace, it’s not a golden idol. God did give you common sense, didn’t she?


  54. trueblue Says:

    Daryll,
    The Peace sign is not religious!
    Just like your beloved Papi Bush would say,
    “Read My Lips.”
    It is not a religious symbol!


  55. Zooey Says:

    Daryll,

    Jeremiah is not condemning Christmas trees. He is condemning idolatry. The trees in Jeremiah 10 are cut down to carve them into worthless idols that will later be decorated with gold and silver. Jeremiah says nothing about Christmas trees. That custom originated in northern Europe, not in ancient Palestine.


  56. katy Says:

    settle, zooey… the key words are “run by”…
    if i were in your situation i’d be on that board also… your fellow residents are surely glad you are there for their best interests -
    and sanity!


  57. Zooey Says:

    Thanks, katy. *sniff*


  58. katy Says:

    so, really, this daryll is NOT a parody???
    he is always so wrong… surely he must be a joke…
    i consider him as such, at least…


  59. Gregor Samsa Says:

    You can categorize a wreath as a smaller christmas tree with ornaments or a bow.
    Comment by Daryll — November 29, 2006 @ 5:50 pm

    If that is the interpretation you want to give that Biblical passage, then you necessarily have to disapprove of Christmas trees. However, that is not the interpretation most denominations give it:

    They cut down a tree, and a craftsman carves an idol.

    The passage clearly refers to a wooden idol, covered with gold and silver. The larger context makes it clear it is condemnation of idolatry, not of Christmas trees -the Christmas trees being, well, trees and not idols.

    The gaps in your knowledge of your own religion are astounding.


  60. katy Says:

    you’re welcome, zooey…


  61. Zooey Says:

    so, really, this daryll is NOT a parody???
    he is always so wrong… surely he must be a joke…
    i consider him as such, at least…
    Comment by katy

    No katy, Daryll is the real deal, poor thing. We’re all going to burn, and he’s here to make sure we know it.

    Hi Daryll, sweetcheeks…


  62. Wayne Says:

    The gaps in your knowledge of your own religion are astounding.
    —- Gregor Samsa

    Not to even mention his critical thinking skills, which are non-exhisting.


  63. Mr Blifil Says:

    This is what happens when you put Limbaugh listeners, Hannity lovers and O’Reilly viewers in charge of things. Everything turns to pure shit, eventually.

    What idiots, what colossal idiots. My favorite is that now, peace signs are all over the subdivision, and growing in prominence at neighboring subdivisions. Let’s keep this trend growing.


  64. Daryll Says:

    I have a question for everyone. Why do you recognize a day used to commemorate a Sun God? Do you inform your children about good ol’ Saint Nicklaus? Do you inform them that he was created in Germany? Do you inform your children that a German man dishonestly told children that Saint Nicklaus was fat, and that he delivers treats to kids within one night? If you do, you’re a fool. Please tell me why you celebrate Christmas? Christmas is a capitalist holiday.


  65. Gregor Samsa Says:

    Not to even mention his critical thinking skills, which are non-exhisting.
    Comment by Wayne — November 29, 2006 @ 6:15 pm

    Well, I really don’t expect any thinking from him anymore, if I ever did.

    But when it comes to knowing how to interpret the book that is central to his religious belief -which he keeps babbling about, post after post- I would expect him to have more than simple cursory comprehension.

    He does make me wonder if he is trying to be a parody.


  66. Wayne2 Says:

    This story is completely overblown, and don’t believe everything you read. It should have stayed local and between the homeowners. It would have been settled w/o much fuss if the resident had not gone to the press and made themselves out to be victims. This is not about patriotism, just neighbors complaining about their neighbors - like that is news??


  67. Zooey Says:

    Please tell me why you celebrate Christmas? Christmas is a capitalist holiday.
    Comment by Daryll

    Dude, it’s a day off, and the lights are sooooo pretty…

    My family gets together and donates approximately $1000 to charity — no gifts. Is that alright with you, cutie pie Daryll?


  68. RUCerious Says:

    #71 - Daryll - you seem to have changed a lot since you last came around, before the election. Your prayers weren’t answered, now God is almost never mentioned in your posts. Are you apostate?


  69. hellinabucket Says:

    Daryll, do you actually believe that your definition of God is the only one. The Koran and the Torah also have the same insistance. Christmas is largely a Christian Holiday but it also has a Pagan history that’s celebrated around the world.

    Try to think about this for a moment. If God is omnipetint and omnipresent how can we, as mere mortals, even begin to attempt and write his glory down in a book? In a thousand books? It couldn’t be done so maybe, just maybe god is greater than everything that has ever been written about him, for him or to honor him.

    I’m sending you a peace wreath, and a minora.


  70. trueblue Says:

    Daryll,
    You are too funny.
    You went from quoting the Bible, following God’s law, to Christmas is a capitalist holiday.

    Huh? What did I miss?


  71. Raven Says:

    Daryll also has done a tour in the military these past few hours………….


  72. RUCerious Says:

    true - I’m suspecting this isn’t the real Daryll. (my post #75..)


  73. Daryll Says:

    Please tell me why you celebrate Christmas? Christmas is a capitalist holiday.
    Comment by Daryll

    Dude, it’s a day off, and the lights are sooooo pretty…

    My family gets together and donates approximately $1000 to charity — no gifts. Is that alright with you, cutie pie Daryll?

    Comment by Zooey — November 29, 2006 @ 6:33 pm

    Why not donate year round. People become gleeful and giving on one day. What about the other 364 days? You only recognize the birth of Jesus on one day? Personally, I don’t recognize the birth, I recognize the resurrection. He died and was resurrected to save us. Why haven’t you libs given your life to Christ. Libs please click this link and read about the actual meaning of the term “Born Again”.


  74. katy Says:

    st. nicholas was “created in germany”??? what does THAT mean?
    rhetorical question only… please, say no more…

    Saint Nicholas (Greek: Νικόλαος, “Victory of the people”) is the common name for Saint Nicholas of Myra, who had a reputation for secret gift-giving, but is now commonly identified with Santa Claus, Father Christmas or in The Netherlands and Belgium as Sint-Nicolaas or Sinterklaas. He lived in 4th century Myra in the Byzantine Empire’s Lycia, the modern day Demre in the Antalya province of Turkey. This is as much as is generally known about him in the West.
    This historical character was the inspiration for a mythical figure known as Nikolaus in Germany and Sinterklaas in the Netherlands and Flanders, which in turn was the inspiration for Santa Claus. Sinterklaas (a contracted form of Sint Nicolaas) is a major celebration in the Netherlands and in Flanders (see below). Among Orthodox Christians, the historical Saint Nicholas is remembered and revered. Saint Nicholas is the patron saint of sailors, merchants, archers, children, and students in Greece,Russia and Serbia.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas


  75. Zooey Says:

    Daryll,

    It’s the time of year we can get together, dingbat. If we had $1000 to donate every frickin’ month, I guess we’d do that.

    I don’t spend one second a year recognizing the birth of Jesus, thank you very much, and I won’t give my life to Jesus because it is mine, and I’m responsible for it.

    See ya in hell, Daryll.


  76. trueblue Says:

    Save me a place, Zooey!
    According to Daryll (etal), we’ll all be there.

    What a rockin’ joint that’ll be!
    ;)


  77. Zooey Says:

    What a rockin’ joint that’ll be!
    ;)
    Comment by trueblue

    We’ll let Daryll sit closest to the fire, maybe his frozen heart will thaw.


  78. trueblue Says:

    Zooey,

    Ouch!

    But funny, so it’s OK!

    How’s the snow situation there?


  79. Flaco Says:

    My family gets together and donates approximately $1000 to charity…

    Comment by Zooey

    Kind of like penance
    makes u feel good huh?
    Small brain big boobs


  80. Tom3 Says:

    Obviously these board members were 30 percenters.

    You know, the Chimpylovers, the Religious Reich, the Dittoheads and Freepers and the rest of the reichwing scum.

    The otner 70% of the subdivision obviously made their voices heard and the knuckledragging Neanderthals have resigned.

    Good show, Pagosa Springs. I thought you were hopeless Repukes but some of you have a brain.


  81. Tom3 Says:

    Michael the Moron is obviously an inbred Repuke moron. He doesn’t know the difference between private property and a courthouse.

    Jeez, the Repukes are dumbasses. No wonder they voted for Chimpy twice. They are the lowest common denominator in America, the result of generations of inbreeding and dumbing down.


  82. Zooey Says:

    How’s the snow situation there?
    Comment by trueblue

    Deeper and colder.


  83. SpudgeBoy Says:

    Hi Spudge_Boy!

    Comment by trueblue — November 29, 2006 @ 4:45 pm

    Hi trueblue!


  84. Zooey Says:

    Kind of like penance
    makes u feel good huh?
    Small brain big boobs
    Comment by Flaco

    Give it a rest, limp dick.


  85. SpudgeBoy Says:

    You’re spinning blue! I don’t care what the symbol is, I just think it’s great that a set of agreed upon rules is sending your beloved peace symbol to the tank!

    Comment by michael — November 29, 2006 @ 5:09 pm

    Care to explain exactly what is wrong with peace or a symbol of peace?


  86. SpudgeBoy Says:

    Once again you should re-read my posts. I wasn’t trying to equate the two, I was just showing the lefts hypocricy!

    Comment by michael — November 29, 2006 @ 5:26 pm

    You did equate them. Here look:

    Kind of like when you liberals go bonkers at the thought of having a replica of the Ten Commandments in some judge’s court house. What goes around comes around!

    Comment by michael — November 29, 2006 @ 4:33 pm

    That is you doing what is called equating. Look it up, while you are reading the Constitution and the ten commandments.


  87. SpudgeBoy Says:

    But the most important thing about why posting the ten commandments outside a court is so completely stupid is that only two of them are against the law in the United States.


  88. John Gilpins Says:

    In regard to the Christmas wreath story, I sure wish the New York Times would keep us abreast of the latest news. That’s old, old, old news. The Christmas wreath problem has been solved. In fact, it was solved today. The Christmas wreath just vanished without a trace. Yeeeeaaaah! Yeeeeaaaah! Sure!

    President George W. Bush forgot to take his KLEPTOMANIA pills and he cancelled the talks today with, President Incompetent of Iraq, and flew home to steal the Christmas wreath, after reading about this story in the New York Times. Bad boy, George. Bad boy, George.

    YOU WERE A BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD BOY IN 1966, WHEN YOU WERE ARRESTED FOR STEALING A CHRISTMAS WREATH. Shame on you! Shame on you.

    Folks, our dear President is a KLEPTOMANIC. In other words–he has a compulsion to steal things:

    1. Christmas wreaths in 1966. Christmas wreaths in 2006?

    2. The presidential election in 2000. Think Florida. Think Florida. Think Florida. Think Florida.

    3. The presidential election in 2004. Think Ohio. Think Ohio. Think Ohio. Think Ohio. Yes, President George W. Bush pulled another fast one. He stole another presidential election. We, the electorate, basically say nothing. Can he get away with this? He sure has. Not once, but twice.

    4. It wouldn’t surprise me George stole his daughter’s purse in Buenos Aires, Argentina the other day. George sure loves to steal things.

    George, stop stealing things–Christmas wreaths and elections. DAMN IT, TAKE YOUR KLEPTOMANIA PILLS!
    I’ve had enough, George. Someone has got to force you to take your kleptomania pills. Buster, you’ve got a problem. You’ve got to start taking them today; not tomorrow; not next week. Today! DAMN IT, TAKE YOUR KLEPTOMANIA PILLS!

    Can you honestly believe that the Bush administration has the balls to label President Maliki’s administration as incompetent. I SURE GUESS IT TAKES ONE INCOMPETENT ADMINISTRATION TO KNOW ANOTHER INCOMPETENT ADMINISTRATION. Oh brother. This takes the cake!

    What’s the odds President George W. Bush will be in office a year from today? I’d say his odds are about as good as Dennis Hastert being House Speaker. In other words—zip, zip, zip, zip, zip, zip, zip, zip, zip,

    When this guy is finally forced out-of-office, someone has to keep tabs on him when the moving van is parked in the White House driveway–loading up the Bush possessions. No doubt, he’ll have his sticky fingers on expensive White House things.

    John


  89. JPark Says:

    Michael, do you see anybody taking your ugly little creche from you? Der.


  90. JPark Says:

    #51 Now THAT is funny!! :)


  91. JPark Says:

    #55 I would challenge them to name all the commandments but Google would be my downfall. I think Stephen Colbert proved my point though.


  92. JPark Says:

    #58 Daryll, you incredible moron. How is your Christmas tree doing?


  93. JPark Says:

    Daryll is all over the board. I can’t keep up. If Kerry was a flip-flopper what is this guy?


  94. JPark Says:

    #87 Jealous Miss small boobs, small brain?


  95. John Gilpins Says:

    Peace wreaths, Christmas wreaths–it’s all the same thing to George.

    George doesn’t think about PEACE.

    GEORGE JUST WANTS A “PIECE” OF ANYTHING.

    John


  96. Wayne Says:

    Small brain big boobs
    — Flaco

    Spoken by someone who sits on their brains.


  97. Wayne Says:

    Personally, I don’t recognize the birth, I recognize the resurrection. — Daryll

    kinda like you cherrypicking the parts of the bible to follow, with your weird twisted interpretations. I see.

    you are one weird duck.
    Did you go protest in South Africa for them allowing gay marriage yet?
    Or was that just another lie
    Jesus will be mad if you lied, Daryll


  98. JPark Says:

    Wayne, he might be on to something. The virgin birth doesn’t matter. Didn’t happen. Wait, if he wasn’t born, he couldn’t be resurrected, could he??? Daryll and his brother Daryll and his brother Larry are not too bright.


  99. Tundra Says:

    Out of curiousity,

    Is Donald Trumps 80 foot flag pole the same thing?

    http://www.cnn.com/ 2006/ LAW/ 11/ 01/ trump.flag.ap/ index.html

    I feel they both should be allowed, as well as a German Swastika, Rebel Flag or any other symbol one chooses to display.


  100. JPark Says:

    Come on Tundra, Trump violated zoning ordinances. I, personally would let anybody put whatever the hell they wanted on their property but what Trump did was illegal. The peace wreath wasn’t.


  101. Tundra Says:

    So a large Peace/Mexican/Vote for Kerry flag would have been wrong as well?


  102. JPark Says:

    #110 Yeah, if it violated zoning ordinances.


  103. JPark Says:

    Not that I agree with zoning ordinances. Again, I would let people put whatever the hell they wanted to on their property.


  104. jake3988 Says:

    Good Riddance. The fact that ANY of this happened sickens the hell of me.

    Where is our country going that we can’t even display a peace sign?

    Disgusting.


  105. Tundra Says:

    111/112

    Figured we were on the same page. Just a temperature check :)


  106. JPark Says:

    We agree more often than not Tundra. Not sure if I should take my temperature.


  107. Zooey Says:

    Not sure if I should take my temperature.
    Comment by JPark

    You might find out you need surgery… :)


  108. JPark Says:

    I know it Zooey. I may need to have a heart implanted :)


  109. Tundra Says:

    You might find out you need surgery… :)

    Comment by Zooey — November 30, 2006 @ 12:08 am

    Or a couple shots and a shave :)


  110. JPark Says:

    #118 Eh, I shaved this morning. I don’t need another one until Friday :)


  111. Josh P. Says:

    Who needs responsible reporting anyway?

    http://www.getsomejosh.com


  112. Pete_Bogs Says:

    now, in a bit of irony, all three warhawk board members will be sent off to fight in Iraq…


  113. Daryll Says:

    Wayne, he might be on to something. The virgin birth doesn’t matter. Didn’t happen. Wait, if he wasn’t born, he couldn’t be resurrected, could he??? Daryll and his brother Daryll and his brother Larry are not too bright.

    Comment by JPark — November 29, 2006 @ 10:39 pm

    You’re not that bright, he existed long before the actual birth. Remember his creations? He came down in the form of a man to preach, teach and redeem our souls. You really need to interpret the word of god correctly. I hope you decide to attend church Sunday because your lack of biblical knowledge proves that your attendance is vital to the redemption of your soul. Have you been born again?


  114. Bruce Gorton Says:

    As an atheist I do not celebrate Christmas because, well, I don’t believe in it, instead I celebrate mid-summer*, but anyway:

    For most people Christmas is all about giving gifts to each other. It is a celebration of each other, as much as it is about being together at least once a year, as it is about some religious connotation.

    Of course to some Christians the chief issue here is that people who actually like their families have fun over the holiday, and fun is always sinful. Never mind that Jesus turned water to wine and is famous for having compared his blood to wine.

    Christmas is not supposed to be a time of mass division, but rather a celebration of having survived the last year, reasonably intact, having managed to corall your family and friends together, and getting presents. The presents are as much a symbol of the fact that there is nothing more fun then giving a good gift.

    That this spirit doesn’t last all year is because mostly, it doesn’t last the one day it is celebrated on, and besides if you had a big feast and lots to drink every day you would do your liver in. People generally do not actually like each other enough to make Christmas every day.

    That it is celebrated at all, is because it is fun when it works.

    *Mid-summer because I am in the southern hemisphere and its more convenient then mid-Winter owing to puplic holidays.


  115. Bruce Gorton Says:

    Daryll

    The most Jesus ever created was a few glasses of wine and a whole load of nasty fish sandwiches (They didn’t have any butter or lemons, and besides fish goes with chips.)

    The Bible is extremely clear on the fact that Jesus is the son of God, and in fact a seperate entity to God, and that God in fact was active during Jesus’ life. Jesus in fact called out to God saying something along the lines of “Father, why have you forsaken me” - He would not have called out to himself with that accusation, he would have known his own motives.

    While the trinity, a concept borrowed from Egyption and Celtic traditions, is commonly preached by those who have never actually bothered to read the book, it has no more validity in Christians teachings then Fir Trees and a big fat Coca-Cola advert (Saint Nick) does.


  116. Daryll Says:

    Daryll

    The most Jesus ever created was a few glasses of wine and a whole load of nasty fish sandwiches (They didn’t have any butter or lemons, and besides fish goes with chips.)

    Read Genesis.

    The Bible is extremely clear on the fact that Jesus is the son of God, and in fact a seperate entity to God, and that God in fact was active during Jesus’ life. Jesus in fact called out to God saying something along the lines of “Father, why have you forsaken me” - He would not have called out to himself with that accusation, he would have known his own motives.

    God came in the form of a man. The man was named Jesus. He used that man as an example for all humans on earth to learn how to follow and worship him. The father, son, and holy ghost are all titles describing Jesus.

    Deut 5:8-9 (Exodus 20:4): You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth. You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God.


  117. Daryll Says:

    Daryll

    The most Jesus ever created was a few glasses of wine and a whole load of nasty fish sandwiches (They didn’t have any butter or lemons, and besides fish goes with chips.)

    Read Genesis.

    The Bible is extremely clear on the fact that Jesus is the son of God, and in fact a seperate entity to God, and that God in fact was active during Jesus’ life. Jesus in fact called out to God saying something along the lines of “Father, why have you forsaken me” - He would not have called out to himself with that accusation, he would have known his own motives.

    God came in the form of a man. The man was named Jesus. He used that man as an example for all humans on earth to learn how to follow and worship him. The father, son, and holy ghost are all titles describing Jesus.

    Deut 5:8-9 (Exodus 20:4): You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth. You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God.


  118. Bruce Gorton Says:

    Daryll

    Read the new testament. It occurs somewhat after the old one.

    Oh, and while we are on the subject, point out the precise line where Jesus claims to be God. The most Jesus claims is that he is the son of God, and last I checked a son is not the same person as his father.

    They are clearly different characters according to the book of fairytales you base your religion upon. Heck they don’t even act or speak the same, go read some of the old testement and go read the new one.

    You Christians who have never read the book sicken me, because you see fit to come forward, spout crap that has no basis in scripture, and then claim to be guiding me to some greater truth. I read the book because, way back when, I felt I ought to give it a chance and see if it made sense, it didn’t but I still read the book and not just as a book of quotations, which is precisely how Christians like you, seem to treat it.


  119. Bruce Gorton Says:

    Oh, and another thing Darryl

    The first man was Adam, not Jesus.


  120. Daryll Says:

    Oh, and another thing Darryl

    The first man was Adam, not Jesus.

    Comment by Bruce Gorton — November 30, 2006 @ 3:13 pm

    God created Adam. The bible states, “In the the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, and the earth was without form or void”. Read the good book again.


  121. Bruce Gorton Says:

    Daryll

    True, but I am not arguing about whether the Bible says God created the world or any of that, I am arguing that Jesus and God are seperate characters, with their own personalities. Jesus was not God made mortal, he was the mortal son of a God. Jesus does not appear in the old testament but comes somewhat later in the new testament, therefore referencing the old one and saying “God did this” is kind of pointless.


  122. Robert Says:

    A few years ago the Supreme court ruled that HOA are in fact little governments and have to abide by the constitution. Thus they cannot forbid free speech, political signs were the example. I think this falls under the category. People need to stomp on HOAs whenever possible.



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