Bartlett On Cancelled Maliki Meeting: ‘It Was Going To Be More Of A Social Meeting Anyway’
Bartlett On Cancelled Maliki Meeting: ‘It Was Going To Be More Of A Social Meeting Anyway’
Today’s widely anticipated meeting between President Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki was abruptly canceled. CNN suggests that it “was put off to Thursday after a U.S. memo cast doubt on al-Maliki’s ability to deal with the sectarian warfare in Iraq.” Bush counselor Dan Bartlett put that speculation to rest with this clear explanation:
BARTLETT: The President is going to have a bilateral and dinner with the King of Jordan. Since the King of Jordan and Prime Minister Maliki had a bilateral themselves, earlier today, everybody believed that negated the purpose for the three of them to meet tonight, together, in a trilateral setting. So the plan, according to — since they had such a good, productive bilateral discussion, was just for the President to deal with bilateral issues and other issues with the King this evening in a dinner setting, and then the meetings set for tomorrow will still take place as scheduled.
Is that clear? No? Ok, here’s more Bartlett:
QUESTION: The King and the Prime Minister had a meeting, but the Prime Minister hasn’t seen the President since he got here, and the President changed his schedule to come here for this meeting.
BARTLETT: The President requested the meeting. This was the President requesting the meeting with the Prime Minister. And the substantive meetings on Iraq — look, they were not going to be doing a full detail discussion in a trilateral setting about Iraq and the future of Iraq and the strategy anyway, that just wouldn’t be appropriate. So it was going to be more of a social meeting anyways. But the fact that they had already had a good meeting together, felt like it negated the purpose to doing so. And the President and Prime Minister Maliki will have a very robust and lengthy dialogue tomorrow morning.
So the President flew to Jordan to have a “social meeting” with Maliki, which Maliki decided not to attend. There’s nothing more to it. That should put all the speculation to rest.
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November 29th, 2006 at 2:35 pmBy “social meeting” I assume he meant “photo-op?”
November 29th, 2006 at 2:36 pmTea and crumpets, and all that? Discuss twins in Argentina? I say, good show, King George!!
November 29th, 2006 at 2:37 pmPresident and Prime Minister Maliki will have a very robust and lengthy dialogue tomorrow morning..
November 29th, 2006 at 2:38 pmW – You’ve got one week to have all the miltia’s under control!
M – F*&k You chimp!
W – You worthless incompent ingrate of a camel jockey!
M – I wish Sen Webb had cold cocked you!
W – (sobbing) Now you’ve done hurt my feelings, we’re never leaving!
Another leaked WH memo: growing doubts about Bush’s sanity continue to be raised within GOP ranks…
Cheers.
November 29th, 2006 at 2:38 pmGonna need a bigger fig leaf. Way to go, Iraq, standing up to “W”! Maliki now better watch his back, tho, considering that his personal security guys are hired guns from the US!
November 29th, 2006 at 2:39 pm“BARTLETT: The President is going to have a bilateral…” – - … a bilateral obstructive uropathy? He looks like it.
November 29th, 2006 at 2:42 pmNo way.
Guys there is something going on here. Something big and most probably bad. Read all of todays posts and see for yourself. For some reason President Bush doesn’t need Al-Maliki anymore. What did VP Cheney do in Riadh?
November 29th, 2006 at 2:42 pmI wonder if the Vegas oddsmakers are taking bets on the possible assassination of Maliki. IMO he has about a 1 in 60 chance of being killed before week’s end. If the meeting goes through tomorrow, look for Al-Sadr to ratchet up the violence, perhaps something really big and/or brazen.
November 29th, 2006 at 2:43 pmWhat a colossal waste of taxpayer money.
November 29th, 2006 at 2:43 pmI know I’m getting paranoid
November 29th, 2006 at 2:45 pmWhat did VP Cheney do in Riadh?
Or rather what was he told do to?
It could be nothing more than a bunch of half-wits bumbling around with no idea what they’re doing or what to do. Or there could be something big in the works. Or…it could be both now that I think of it.
November 29th, 2006 at 2:46 pmNow if only Maliki would be so assertive about the militia problem….
November 29th, 2006 at 2:48 pmMaliki photo caption:
“I do not like this useless chimp you have sent to liberate us!”
November 29th, 2006 at 2:48 pmThe sh*t these lying psychopaths come up with each and every day continues to astound me.
November 29th, 2006 at 2:50 pmRobust?!?
November 29th, 2006 at 2:50 pmWatch out… the gloves are coming off now.
Bush seems to be more suited to partying with his daughters. Maybe he should have gone to Argentina with them and partied naked in the halls like they allegedly did among other things. He might be qualified for that.
November 29th, 2006 at 2:51 pmLooks like the monkeygang is bringing civil war back home. What’s going to happen if HisRoyalLowness declares state of emergency? These people have a plan, even if it doesn’t look like it. Just go back in time. Go to the National Security Archive webpage.
November 29th, 2006 at 2:53 pmAnd go shopping for cross-mas before its too late…
Mr. al-Maliki, I’d like you to meet Mr. Diem.
November 29th, 2006 at 2:54 pmSo he was for the meeting before he was against it .. that sounds familiar ..
November 29th, 2006 at 2:57 pmThey’re going to have a bilateral meeting about a trilateral meeting about our unilateral actions in Iraq. 1…2…3… now guess which shell the pea is under. Just another neoCON game.
Please, please would somebody with a pair arrest Bush and Cheney now!
November 29th, 2006 at 2:57 pmBush-Maliki Summitt Postponed…
Has it been nixed permanently? (I know the CNN story says ’til Thursday, but still, this may be a trial ballon of sorts.) If so, why?
November 29th, 2006 at 2:57 pmBecause of the leaked Hadley memo? Or the slow motion collapse of Maliki’s government? Questions, questions, questi…
I know I’m getting paranoid
Comment by doro — November 29, 2006 @ 2:45 pm
I was already paranoid. Now I’m getting worried.
November 29th, 2006 at 2:59 pmNgo Dinh Diem for Mr. Bush and Mr. Maliki …. sorry, i couldn’t resist … bad puns aside, I’m thinking if there will be a coup, it will take place while Maliki is outside Iraq. Therefore, he will avoid the fate of Diem.
November 29th, 2006 at 3:03 pmPart of Bush’s reluctance, could come from the recent meeting between Maliki, and the Iranian president, whos name I won’t try to spell. Since Bush placed Iran on the Axis of Evil, it wouldn’t do to have the country he “liberated” suddenly join forces with Iran.
November 29th, 2006 at 3:07 pmlook, they were not going to be doing a full detail discussion in a trilateral setting about Iraq and the future of Iraq and the strategy anyway, that just wouldn’t be appropriate.
That would have been the most appropriate thing that he could have done. What were they going to talk about? Favorite vacation spots?
November 29th, 2006 at 3:08 pmWhile Condi is shoe shopping, the spooks are general shopping among the Shiite commanders in the militia. Odds are that Maliki doesn’t make it back to the haven of the Green Zone alive.
November 29th, 2006 at 3:08 pm#23 LMAO!!!
November 29th, 2006 at 3:10 pm#26, Hmmm. When in Maliki going to be outside Iraq this week?
November 29th, 2006 at 3:10 pmwhos name I won’t try to spell.
Comment by Krazny
NO, you dont want to summon Satan himself!
November 29th, 2006 at 3:12 pmMy goodness, so many laterals!
November 29th, 2006 at 3:12 pmMust be Bartlett’s favorite new words, bilateral, trilateral, how high up can you count?
Tell me, do you know the difference between up and down? As in: Are you in ascendance, or are you just going down with your boss?
Something’s rotten in Baghdad.
November 29th, 2006 at 3:13 pmAlcock and McFadden?
Petty Kosmo & Turner LLP ?
Am I getting warm MA?
November 29th, 2006 at 3:13 pm#27…
different guy, it was the President of Iraq who met with the Iranian President.
( They got along just fine, by the way…)
….Maliki is the “Prime Minister of Iraq”
November 29th, 2006 at 3:15 pmal-Maliki and Bush will meet at an undisclosed location which will be set up and security provided by Tessio.
November 29th, 2006 at 3:15 pmThe President is going to have a bilateral and dinner with the King of Jordan…
November 29th, 2006 at 3:16 pmNow I get it.
A bilateral is a double shot.
Trilateral is a triple shot.
I think Bush needs a couple of decalaterals about now.
Hiccup!
If so, why? Because of the leaked Hadley memo?
The conspiracy theorist sees method here. Wouldn’t a ‘leaked’ memo being critical/skeptical of Maliki give him the perfect “out” of his meeting with Bush? Perhaps Maliki has caved to al-Sadr, and this was the best thing the Bush administration could come up with to try and save face everyone?
Just a thought.
November 29th, 2006 at 3:18 pm“The president is going to have a bilateral etc…”
November 29th, 2006 at 3:21 pmThis implies they are goin to engage in some act while (both) in a lateral position…
The snubbing of GW to pacify Sadr? The middle east may just cut GW out of any future solutions and just keep our military there.
November 29th, 2006 at 3:21 pmAhh didn’t realize the difference, thanks Raven.
Juan, my reluctance to spell his name has nothing to do with my opinion of the man, good or bad, I just don’t want to attempt it and fail, and don’t feel like doing a cut and paste.
November 29th, 2006 at 3:21 pm#39…
November 29th, 2006 at 3:23 pmI think your perception may be quite accurate.
It is quite evident that Maliki has no real power…………..
roger_inkhart, I beginning to believe in conspiracies, too. But face saving? No, I don’t think President Bush is interested in Malikis face and vice versa. Somehow it looks to me as if Mr Bush isn’t interested in saving his own face because he knows it won’t matter. Is there a coup planned in the US? (Oops now I’m being silly……or…am I?)
November 29th, 2006 at 3:26 pmCouldn’t they have teleconferenced a simple social meeting?
Frankly, this “explanation” doesn’t pass the smell test. Considering that just about everything Bush does smells one gets used to the differences in smell and this one is pretty foul.
November 29th, 2006 at 3:27 pmLike I said, it was just a thought. I just find it hard to believe that a memo from Hadley was leaked just before the meeting was about to take place. It seems contrived. It seems planned. Sure, White House memos are leaked from time to time, but this one has the power to destabilize the leader of the Iraqi government, who is already on very shaky ground. I don’t know who in the White House would leak such a memo if it didn’t somehow serve the purposes of the administration.
We can’t know. That’s why we speculate.
November 29th, 2006 at 3:31 pmOk, so Iran hosted a meeting with Iraq and Syria.
Then the Saudis call in Cheney for a meeting.
Now Bush goes to Jordan for a meeting with Iraq, but it was only a social gathering anyway so it wasn’t all that important and we’ll just take a reign check.
Does anybody see the Middle East circling the wagons against Bush&Co in this picture?
November 29th, 2006 at 3:31 pmCaption:
November 29th, 2006 at 3:37 pm“..and there will be Your Statue, right next to mine…”
I agree with #39’s idea. It’s very logical.
November 29th, 2006 at 3:39 pma “social meeting†with Maliki, which Maliki decided not to attend
#47 Yes.
Al-Sadr’s thugs get face time with the PM, and Bush gets the about-face. That’s slightly alarming…
November 29th, 2006 at 3:40 pmI just don’t want to attempt it and fail, and don’t feel like doing a cut and paste.
Comment by Krazny
Hey, Krazny, it was a silly joke. Nothing against you.
November 29th, 2006 at 3:42 pmMy apologies Juan, I didn’t realize =)
November 29th, 2006 at 3:45 pmThis is so bush typical.
There are just nooooo diplomatic skills to be had with these assholes.
And to boot, the host who has tried to broker something positive comes out looking like an asshole as well.
November 29th, 2006 at 3:45 pmto understand the oh-this-is-just-a-social-call line of bullshite, you must read the nyt leaked memo written to the war0criminal bush by his ‘people’:
in other words, malaki is a crooked ignorant fool–much like bush–and is probably not going to do much good in the future.
therefore, in my opini0on, there will be a usa-backed malaki coup in the next six to eight weeks…
November 29th, 2006 at 3:49 pmA threat from al-Sadr. “Radical anti-U.S. Shi’ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr’s political bloc, a key player in Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki’s government, threatened on Friday to withdraw from the cabinet and parliament if Maliki met U.S. President George W. Bush as planned in Jordan next week.†November 24, 2006
I guess we all know who Maliki’s real daddy is… maybe we can leave Iraqi troop training up to Daddy al-Sadr then?
November 29th, 2006 at 3:51 pmtherefore, in my opini0on, there will be a usa-backed malaki coup in the next six to eight weeks…
Comment by NO NO NO not no no — November 29, 2006 @ 3:49 pm
Oh yeah.. THAT’s going to help.
November 29th, 2006 at 3:57 pmGod, the look on Maliki’s face says it all. It’s like “God, get me out of here.”
I’m reminded of an old Echo & The Bunnymen song…
November 29th, 2006 at 3:58 pm
And now this,
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/11/29/pakistan-tells-nato-to-accept-defeat-by-taliban/
Looks like the war on terror is lost on all fronts.
I am really not sure what to think. This may well be the defeat of the US on both fronts, the allies Pakistan and Maliki defecting. Most comments on C&L are of the opinion it was Maliki who has cancelled the meeting. This would be an affront to any leader but for the POTUS a colossal affront and diplomatic catastrophe. I’m flabbergasted.
November 29th, 2006 at 4:00 pmAll I can say is what a freaking mess this has turned out to be. Way to go, Bush Administration! It’s going to take more than a $500 million dollar “presidential” library to spin this any less than a miserable failure.
November 29th, 2006 at 4:01 pmNo matter how that complete moron Bartlett tries to spin it, this is indeed a diplomatic catastrophe. You don’t cancel dinner with the POTUS – you just don’t. Especially when the meeting is so high profile and the implications so far reaching.
Now, will the meeting tomorrow take place? As it stands I would have to think that it would. Maliki made his point today. He can meet with Bush and still go back to Iraq having rubbed Bush’s nose in it at least a little.
November 29th, 2006 at 4:09 pmSince the King of Jordan and Prime Minister Maliki had a bilateral themselves…
Ack! Sounds painful!
November 29th, 2006 at 4:17 pmSo it was going to be more of a social meeting anyways.
So the American taxpayer pays, what, a couple hundred thousand dollars to fly Bush to a social meeting? Damn!
November 29th, 2006 at 4:20 pmAnd now this,
http://www.crooksandliars.com/ 2006/ 11/ 29/ pakistan-tells-nato-to-accept-defeat-by-taliban/
Looks like the war on terror is lost on all fronts.
I am really not sure what to think. This may well be the defeat of the US on both fronts, the allies Pakistan and Maliki defecting. Most comments on C&L are of the opinion it was Maliki who has cancelled the meeting. This would be an affront to any leader but for the POTUS a colossal affront and diplomatic catastrophe. I’m flabbergasted.
Comment by doro — November 29, 2006 @ 4:00 pm
The war on terror was lost as soon as we invaded Iraq. It may have started out in Afganistan as revenge and justice for 9/11, and maybe if it had stayed there things would still be going our way, but once we invaded Iraq, it became about deposing a dictator we put in power, finding those elusive WMDs that no one found…. oh and inviting terrorists into the country.
November 29th, 2006 at 4:22 pm#60 I believe you’re right. This is a slap in GW’s face. The players in the middle east are learning how to play without the US. Remember our snubs to any UN members that didn’t help in the fighting won’t help in the rewards of rebuilding Iraq? It looks like the region has seen what we can do and aren’t happy. They’ll go elsewhere. It’s my guess that within 18 months Russia, China and Germany are going to be fronting up major reconstruction projects in Iraq with promises of Oil contracts for years to come.
Thanks George.
November 29th, 2006 at 4:23 pmHey, have you seen any of the trolls on this thread? Things must be really serious, if they shut up.
November 29th, 2006 at 4:25 pmSwordsbane, you’re right I should have put war on terror as “war on terror”. You’re absolutely right there.
November 29th, 2006 at 4:29 pmEVERYTHING this stupid son of a bitch ever touched has turned to shit. Here’s another example. He cant even convene a meeting with another leader without there being strife and issues.
And the Repugnicans refuse to understand why we the people threw them out on November 7.
November 29th, 2006 at 4:32 pmEcho and the Bunnymen -
Wow! Blast from the past.
(I wonder if I still have the LP’s)
The US dollar is incredibly weak; looks like the Euro may take over, and now Russia and China are going to position themselves ahead of the US.
Thanks a f*cking lot, Bush. Only took you 6 years to destroy our place in the world.
November 29th, 2006 at 4:34 pmDip.
Scary but interesting stuff…..Look’s like bull shit bush is getting bitch slaped again today……The truly scary part is we must indure this madmans folly untill January and then push the Dem’s to Impeach his ass…..January’s a long way off when so much is at stake….Blessings
November 29th, 2006 at 4:36 pmSorry…in my haste to post I forgot to put quotes around leader when it came to mentioning Bush…Let me try again. He cant even convene a meeting with another “leader”……there…I feel better.
November 29th, 2006 at 4:37 pmMaliki ceded the power given to him by the US military and the voters of Iraq – he is to blame for the current situation in Iraq. When he released the Al-Sadr lieutenant after the US military captured him in the act of sectarian violence, it was a signal to all those responsible for sectarian violence that Maliki didn’t have the will to end intervene in a growing civil war. Western Europe is also to blame for not supporting the fledgling democracy in the middle east – especially France, who got caught with their hands in the cookie jar, undermining the economic sanctions against Saddam’s regime – and people wonder how Hitler’s Germany got away with so much before all out war was upon them.
November 29th, 2006 at 4:39 pmHendler, remember, your ‘god’ Bush’s grandfather made his fortune bankrolling Hitler.
November 29th, 2006 at 4:51 pm“and people wonder how Hitler’s Germany got away with so much before all out war was upon them. ”
Prescott Bush?
November 29th, 2006 at 4:53 pmWhoever was worrying about the troll’s absence needs not fret. Jason is back, more demented than ever, and begging for some bitch-slapping.
November 29th, 2006 at 4:53 pmand people wonder how Hitler’s Germany got away with so much before all out war was upon them.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — November 29, 2006 @ 4:39 pm
Hello Mr. Hendler, back at last.
The old appeasement meme here. You must have been in a hurry to pots, because your arguments are not quite logical.
But just let me know:
Who attacked Iraq and brought this situation about? France? Germany?
Who said “You break it, you own it”? Who broke it? Who owns it now?
The way it looks like is: The POTUS is snubbed by a puppet, his own puppet! President Bush and his Administration wanted this war. They are waging this war and nobody nobody else is ultimately responsible for the outcome. And it has nothing at all to do with Hitler.
This is President G.W.Bush’s war! Period!
November 29th, 2006 at 4:55 pmI thought the current troll was pretty much a
November 29th, 2006 at 4:56 pmhas-been here.
I believe it was lost as soon as it was declared. Let’s face it, War is Terror.
You cannot defeat Terror until you defeat Fear. And you cannot defeat Fear by using force, violence, and threats. One can only defeat fear by going within one’s self and facing, then overcoming one’s fears.
Once you overcome your fears, no one holds any true power over you. There is no “war on terror” because “terror” no longer exists.
November 29th, 2006 at 4:59 pmAnd one last thought: Who in their right minds would want to attend a social engagement with this “War-Time” President?
November 29th, 2006 at 5:01 pmExcellent Briseadh na Faire,
You speak from a more evolved place sir. I think the “war on terror” has ruse-like qualities anyway.
November 29th, 2006 at 5:05 pm[...] I’m just finding out on MSNBC that Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki didn’t show up for the big whoop-dee-doo meeting he was supposed to have with President Bush in Jordan today. This could be huge. [...]
November 29th, 2006 at 5:09 pmToday’s Score:
Moqtada Al-Sadr +1
GW Bush -1
Maliki -2
Is Maliki in a tough spot, or what?
November 29th, 2006 at 5:12 pmThe Prez was hammered. Try tomorrow. He’ll be semi-sober then.
November 29th, 2006 at 5:20 pmHendler, weren’t you going to trumpet all over TP the day after the elections to rub it everyone’s face on how bad the Democrats lost?
November 29th, 2006 at 5:26 pmCaption #2
…Okay You can have my Ford, the black one over there…
November 29th, 2006 at 5:26 pmMaybe Malaki didn’t want to have a back rub administered by an inebriated infidel.
November 29th, 2006 at 5:28 pmIt looks like al-Maliki arriving to Amman,Jordan without Al-Sadr battery. Can’t function without.
November 29th, 2006 at 5:30 pmBush has become toxic in the international community. Right…only a friendly visit? Right! He’s a pariah both here and in the world view. He’s a lameduck who will be realizing soon that everyone’s deserted him. Poor George!
November 29th, 2006 at 5:31 pmSocial meeting? From the picture, Malaki doesn’t look like the kind of guy you’d like to kick up your heels and share a brewski with…
November 29th, 2006 at 5:33 pmOnce you overcome your fears, no one holds any true power over you. There is no “war on terror†because “terror†no longer exists.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
Amen.
November 29th, 2006 at 5:38 pmNow we know what a nut tourniquet looks like, the puppet using it’s own strings!
November 29th, 2006 at 5:48 pmMaliki ceded the power given to him by the US military and the voters of Iraq Comment by Jason M. Hendler — November 29, 2006 @ 4:39 pm
You don’t see the irony in your post, do you?
“The power given to him by the US military” -so much for democracy and sovereignty. The rest of your babble is not better.
You have a tenuous grasp on reality, Mr. Hendler.
November 29th, 2006 at 5:53 pm#90
A real wisdom. So true and universal. Unfortunately it requires at least some brains to grasp all of it. And that’s a rare commodity amongst Rs.
November 29th, 2006 at 5:54 pmCaption #3
Maliki thinking: “I can’t believe that he is offering me that piece of sh*t. I rather keep my old Peugeot…”
November 29th, 2006 at 5:56 pmCaption:
“Now just hold on their partner, I told Malikaka here that he could have one more cigarette.”
November 29th, 2006 at 6:17 pmDoes anyone remember the last time a foreign leader blew off a President of the United States when that president traveled abroad to meet with him? I don’t think it’s ever happened. Chalk up another first for the worst president in history.
November 29th, 2006 at 6:28 pm#97 – “Does anyone remember the last time a foreign leader blew off a President of the United States when that president traveled abroad to meet with him? I don’t think it’s ever happened. Chalk up another first for the worst president in history.” Comment by Bluedog49
********Dear BluePup – “I don’t think it’s ever happened.” You know, Pup, I don’t believe we’ve EVER faced as devious an enemy as this one.
Do you remember an Al Queda led insurgent named Zarqawi who was behind the Shiite Goldem Mosque bombing and church bombings in Baghdad? No? Do you remember the 60% Shiite majority being oppressed by the Sunnis and Saddam? I didn’t think so. Do you remember the rabidly anti-US Shiite “cleric”, al Sadr, and his Mahdi Army? In short, Mr. ShortMemeory, Maliki and that fragile government are being propped up by al Sadr forces grateful for liberation from the Sunnis while extremely vehement in their hatred for this administration……As a matter of fact, you have a few things in common. Isn’t commonality a grand thing?
November 29th, 2006 at 6:46 pm#98 – To be fair, the question was directed to “anyone.”
Way to not answer a question, Haggette. Got any more?
November 29th, 2006 at 7:05 pm#98 – Zarqawi was Sunni. How do you “know” that Zarqawi was behind the mosque bombing? No one knows who did it.
MA, you are acting as if the people of Iraq (the ones we “liberated”) are our enemy ( oh, wait, they are now). al-Sadr has so much influence because lots of people back him. People voted those MPs into Parlaiment. Those MPs are now saying that they will leave the govt if Bush visits.
Hey, whaddaya know, they are being democratic. I guess that means Bush was right and this war is just.
November 29th, 2006 at 7:09 pmWhile we’re on the subject of “memory,” I seem to remember that the Congressional War Resolution required the President to, at least every 60 days, present Congress a report on “matters relevant to this joint resolution.”
Since the administration has never lived up to their part in this bargain, the resolution has been rendered invalid and this war is illegal. Moreover, the resolution was predicated on the assertion that Iraq was a threat to our national security. Since we now know that this assertion was patently false, the resolution’s only value is as an exhibit in impeachment hearings.
November 29th, 2006 at 7:25 pm#76, doro: The POTUS is snubbed by a puppet, his own puppet!
Wrong!!!
Bush surrenders Iraq to Maliki’s death squads
by Ahmed Amr
Saturday November 4, 2006
[snip]
The latest media farce is to portray Nouri Al-Maliki as a man out to curb the violence and chaos in our Mesopotamian colony. According to this fable, The Prime Minister is caught between Iraq and a hard place – forced to navigate a treacherous path between a desire to assert the Iraqi State’s monopoly of violence over ‘rogue’ elements in the security forces and the Shia parties that engineered his ascension to power.
There is only one problem with this tale of Maliki’s woes. The Prime Minister is the defacto chairman of the death squads – a radical partisan leader who is out to insure Shia supremacy in the new Iraq. Maliki, Bayan Jabr and Moqtada Sadr are cut of the same ideological cloth. They are men who have spent a lifetime in the quest to convert Iraq into a Shia theocracy – by any means necessary.
November 29th, 2006 at 7:28 pmComment by mighty aphrodite — November 29, 2006 @ 6:46 pm
I agree with that statement. Too bad you’re clueless as to whom the devious enemy really is.
You can start by looking in the mirror. Can you stand to look behind the facade staring at you to see what lies within your soul? I’ve seen its face. But you cannot stand to look at it even in your nightmares. And with every lie you tell, its grim grip on your soul grows tighter and tighter.
November 29th, 2006 at 7:32 pmHendler: Maliki ceded the power given to him by the US military and the voters of Iraq – he is to blame for the current situation in Iraq.
Bush is the one who unleashed Maliki, Bayan Jabr, and Moqtada Sadr who have dedicated their lives to Islamic fundamentalism
Nearly 3000 people died ghastly deaths and tens of billions of dollars in damage were incurred on 9/11.
In direct response to the horrific attacks, Pres Bush with your support Hendler unleashed the Shiite fundamentalists named Maliki, Bayan Jabr, and Moqtada Sadr.
How is this a proper response to the horrific attacks of 9/11?
November 29th, 2006 at 7:33 pmIsn’t commonality a grand thing?
Comment by mighty aphrodite — November 29, 2006 @ 6:46 pm
If it’s so grand, then why don’t you and your really stupid plays on people’s screen names go find some. The only thing you have in common with any of us is that you are an Earthling. After that – there’s not much else.
So, shoo! Run back to Freeperville to share your ‘commonality’ with those “people”.
November 29th, 2006 at 7:33 pmMaliki wears the mark of Death upon him. He is trying to stay alive as many days as possible.
November 29th, 2006 at 7:36 pmComment by goodscarrier — November 29, 2006 @ 7:33 pm
It is a proper response if 9/11 was our version of the krystalnacht. If a faction within our government orchestrated the events of 9/11 for the purpose of galvanizing public opinion behind a war against oil-rich countries, it worked quite well, and the response was exactly as hoped-for.
November 29th, 2006 at 7:44 pm106, Briseadh na Faire: Maliki wears the mark of Death upon him. He is trying to stay alive as many days as possible.
Maliki has worn the mark of Death since Saddam Hussein.
Now that his fundamentalist Shiite party is sharing the reins of power, it is reasonable to think he may survive much longer.
November 29th, 2006 at 7:47 pm#107, Briseadh na Fair: 9/11 was our version of the krystalnacht.
You will have to help me out.
Kristallnacht?
Who are the stormtroopers?
Who are the Jews?
What are the stores?
Etc!
November 29th, 2006 at 7:54 pmBriseadh na Faire
Did you understand my post?
I am conveying that the inadvertent fathering a burgeoning fundamentalist Islamic state (which is pro-Hezbollah, pro-Iranian-mullahcracy, etc) in Iraq is not the appropriate response to the horrific attacks of 9/11.
We were attacked by fundamentalist Sunnis on 9/11.
What did Bush do?
Bush empowered the fundamentalist Shiites who hate Americans even more than Sunnis.
This is not justice.
November 29th, 2006 at 7:58 pmIn the meantime, while Pres Bush and PM Maliki get together for a “social meeting”, Iraq burns:
Fierce fighting Wednesday between coalition forces and insurgents shut down the city of Baqouba, which has been roiled by violence in recent days, killing scores of militants and civilians.
November 29th, 2006 at 8:40 pmSuspected insurgents attacked the police headquarters in downtown Baqouba, sparking a clash with police that left five of the attackers dead, police said on condition of anonymity, as they regularly do to protect themselves.
Fierce Fighting Shuts Down Iraqi City
If I were trying to garner support for a war against Iraq, I wouldn’t have loaded attack planes with Saudi Arabians, Pakastanis and Turks, but no Iraqis…
November 29th, 2006 at 8:51 pm112 – and you’d have thought there’d at least be some people of Arab descent on the planes!
“Autopsy: No Arabs on Flight 77″
http://www.physics911.net/olmsted.htm
November 29th, 2006 at 9:31 pmBnF – That link is a speculative opinion (from a person who firstly states that he is a Christian homeschool dad), which is based on an isolated and inconclusive list.
I prefer to get my science from a consensus of scientists in context.
November 29th, 2006 at 10:03 pmOh My My, more farce to add to the farce.
November 29th, 2006 at 10:16 pmIts been all over the web, in the last few
months, that Maliki would be “eliminated”
and a strong Sunni put in his place. Now
the Internet babble is proving as true as
Prophesy. CNN, MSNBC, (I never watch Faux)
have one talking head after the other, all
day long, mouthing the same “Maliki is
incapable, its all Maliki’s fault, we are the
true vestal virgins in the equation”, line
of horse shit. Iraq would have been better
off, if simply left alone, in the first place.
Now we either back the Shia (Iran) or
throw our lot in with a New Sunni Sadam.
We have fought for 4 years, simply to come
full circle. Not to mention the $trillion dollar
tab, and 3000 dead (admitted) and 30
thousand wounded, just to come back
where we started. Another Sadam puppet
for the US to control the strings of. The
cancelation of todays meeting was a
deliberate furthering of the Anti-Maliki
campaign we are seeing on the cable
feeds. Something big is up in Anbar, and
the body count of dead Iraqi’s is sure to
swell like an american women at an All
you can eat diner. Only a rightwing pig
could find an ounce of redemption in the
entire 1 Tat Spiel.
What the Hell have we come to?
[...] Today was certainly interesting. Chimpus is snubbed by Prime Minister Malaki, President Talabani swings a deal on security with Iran, and Ahmadinejad again tells the Americans to get the hell out of Iraq. Read about it here, here, or here. And in a gut-punch to the Smirking Chimp, Bob Gates, Bush’s nominee to take over Rummy’s position, roundly criticized the administration’s handling of the war and advocated dialogue with Syria and Iran. [...]
November 29th, 2006 at 10:24 pm109-110, my reply was deleted by ThinkProgress.
November 29th, 2006 at 10:53 pm#118 I am surprised. It should be his posts that are deleted since they are either cut and paste or just pathetic.
November 29th, 2006 at 10:57 pmI prefer to get my science from a consensus of scientists in context.
Comment by unbelievable — November 29, 2006 @ 10:03 pm
At one point I too was a homeschool dad. Does that mean you can parenthetically dismiss my writings?
The point of that article reinforces what you said earlier about not having Iraqis on the planes, and takes it to the next step. If the government wanted to blame people of Middle Eastern descent, you’d think they’d have made it public by now that there was evidence that some of the victims on that plane were Arabs/Muslims. The fact that the government has yet to release this information and the fact that the passenger lists fail to show any of the alleged terrorists is, well…intriguing, to say the least.
And it wasn’t an “isolated list” but the list provided by the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology which was then matched up with the flight passenger lists from the Airline.
Can you come up with any logical reason why the government would withhold this information, which only serves to fuel “conspiracy theories?”
November 29th, 2006 at 11:12 pm119 – I know. But some posts of mine which are in total compliance with the “Terms of Use” but touch upon the subject of 9/11 somehow just get lost in cyberspace.
And this is without the government regulating the content of speech on the internet.
sigh.
November 29th, 2006 at 11:17 pm#103 – “Can you stand to look behind the facade staring at you to see what lies within your soul? I’ve seen its face. But you cannot stand to look at it even in your nightmares. And with every lie you tell, its grim grip on your soul grows tighter and tighter.” Comment by Briseadh na Faire
#106 – “Maliki wears the mark of Death upon him. He is trying to stay alive as many days as possible.” Comment by Briseadh na Fair
#107 – “It is a proper response if 9/11 was our version of the krystalnacht. If a faction within our government orchestrated the events of 9/11 for the purpose of galvanizing public opinion behind a war against oil-rich countries, it worked quite well, and the response was exactly as hoped-for.” Comment by Briseadh na Faire
********You poor little dear! But look at the bright side – if you should fail the CA Bar Exam, you might have a stunningly successful career reading tarot cards, runes and channeling the dead (ala Whoopio Goldberg). You could always join the 9/11 conspiracy mill and churn out another book or website dedicated to the allegation that the “EVIL” George Bush, Dick Cheney – or THE shadowy “right wing caba” is behind the horror of 9/11. God, I hope you live in Northern CA…..
November 29th, 2006 at 11:25 pmhello – now these last few posts have jumped by one, and my earlier post has shown up as #113.
go figure…
Judd, as I continue researching the events of that day, I will continue posting questions and observations. 9/11 was the motivating factor in taking this nation to war and causing the deaths of hundreds of thousandsof innocent people. From what I’ve read thus far, there is a stronger case to be made that that crime was perpetrated by individuals within our own government than the case made that a small group of “terrorists” pulled it off. I will not let this issue go until I am convinced beyond a reasonable doubt as to the identity of the criminals. If you want to ban me, then ban me. I’ll go to dailykos. But if not, please stop messing with my posts, ok?
November 29th, 2006 at 11:28 pmMA, the CA bar? What the hell is that? For you I am guessing maybe Cork Assembly? Commonwealth Assize? We really should build a wall. Maybe we will keep you out.
November 29th, 2006 at 11:31 pmsorry – nope, it’s gone again. not my computer playing tricks either.
November 29th, 2006 at 11:32 pmBnF, I had a fit the other night about Kos banning all talk of stolen elections. If TP becomes DLC bitches like them I will be leaving.
November 29th, 2006 at 11:33 pmand it’s back again.
MA is refering to the California State Bar Examination. It’s a 3-day-long test that must be passed before being allowed to be an attorney in the state of California. I took it for the first time last July and passed.
November 29th, 2006 at 11:36 pmBnF, I know what it is. However, it has never taken it. It can’t because it isn’t an American citizen.
November 29th, 2006 at 11:39 pmI wonder how many times Mighty Haggette took the bar exam? Oh yeah, you don’t need to take the bar in order to shave naughty bits.
November 29th, 2006 at 11:40 pmand gone again. sheesh. I’ll check back in the morning….
November 29th, 2006 at 11:40 pmI admit I did have concerns about passing the Bar, because I’m Scottish.
And the Scots have a difficult time passing any bar!!!
I must admit, it was a pleasant sight, seeing my name on the pass list.
November 29th, 2006 at 11:43 pmI must admit, it was a pleasant sight, seeing my name on the pass list.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
Congratulations again, my dear friend.
November 29th, 2006 at 11:51 pmLOL, BnF. Don’t worry, I haven’t seen you add any unnecessary u’s like MA. You pass…the legal bar.
November 29th, 2006 at 11:52 pmIf I were Maliki,I wouldn’t meet with that bastard either.
November 30th, 2006 at 12:30 amFrom comment #5
Another leaked WH memo: growing doubts about Bush’s sanity continue to be raised within GOP ranks…
Doubt?
You mean in regard to the category of his mental deficiency?
Heavy dependence on chemicals for a serious character flaw howsoever engendered or handled these days and his present sociopathic behaviour?
I doubt the inability to think clearly constitutes a mental disorder so much as ineptness. And his inability to react at all in a difficult situation marks him as merely unfit for any form of leadership whatsoever.
November 30th, 2006 at 5:43 am# 16:
Maliki photo caption:
Freek me! What are we going to do with all them bloody bananas?
OOH! Dinner.
November 30th, 2006 at 5:52 amGood morning. I see post #113 has been restored, for now.
November 30th, 2006 at 8:22 amSaudi’s vs Iran. If Saudi’s don’t want us to leave or they will fight for the Sunni’s what are our options? The Shiites are the majority, so they will be leaders in a democracy, and this is what Iran wants. How then do we deal with the Saudi’s, who own something like 10% of our national debt?
http://iamnotsosure.blogspot.com/
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