says Carlos Espinosa, spokesman for Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO), who stands by his earlier comments comparing Miami to a “Third World Country.” Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) called Tancredo’s comments “disappointing” and “naive.”
More Republicans fighting Republicans. Excellent. I don’t know why everybody got worked up about the Majority Leader position “fight.” Democratic in-party conflicts never get as ignorant and stupid as this! Well with the exception of maybe Joe Lieberman, that is. Although he’s a DINO, so he doesn’t count!
I spent a week’s vacation in Miami, South Beach and the surrounding area this fall. Tancredo is full of sh*t. Any metro area has its places to avoid — I am sure that even Denver has some bad spots.
It is fun to watch the repubs squabble amongst themselves. Now that they have been rendered irrelevant, it is really all that they have to keep themselves busy. Soon they will start eating their young.
The latest Zogby polling shows that Latinos have lost faith in the Republican party in huge numbers. In 2004, Latino acceptance of the Repub party was in the 40’s. Now it’s down to about 25%. Let’s just hope that the Latino population in America helps us make the current version of Repubs an irrelevant fringe group with no electoral clout for decades to come. That’s what these f*ckers deserve!
Have you seen Little Haiti in Miami? It’s pretty bad. Like, really bad.
Tancredo was probably saying this as an anti-Hispanic slur, so I wouldn’t stand behing him, but look. We have a serious problems in our ghettos, which are becoming increasingly poor, very violent, very drugged up, and very dangerous. Liberals should acknowledge that and think about ways to limit poverty in our country that really does approach third-world levels for some people.
Tom Tancredo and his virulently anti-Hispanic minions are making a strong bid to completely take over the GOP. With this kind of honesty, they’re on their way: Miami is “as bad as any ghetto in any Third World country,†says…
I spent a week’s vacation in Miami, South Beach and the surrounding area this fall. Tancredo is full of sh*t. Any metro area has its places to avoid — I am sure that even Denver has some bad spots.
Tom, you are correct. Every city has a seedy spot. Even smaller cities like Spokane Washigton have bad areas. WHen I lived up there during the ’90s. There was an area we called crack whore alley. Shoot, even the little town of Tustin, California has an area at the Southern end that you wouldn’t want to be at night.
Has Tancredo ever even been to Miami? I strongly doubt it…doesn’t sound like the Miami I’m familiar with. Certainly there’s a large (and controlling) faction of Cuban expats and their descendents, but many other diverse peoples live there as well. It’s what makes the city vibrant and interesting. On the other coast (probably Tancredo’s “dream”) is Naples, FL. That’s a white-bread place filled with too many people with too much money and too much time on their hands. BORING!!
I am a liberal! And I know conservatives would rather die than help the poor! Don’t just dismiss arguments outright based on what you *think* the motivations of the speaker are.
i have seen where the hispanics live in denver and i have seen whee the hispanics live in miami, and i have visited many latin american countries, and currently live part-time in one… i would like to see a list of countries that tancredo has visited and, if there are any, where in each country he visited and how much time he spent there… that kind of list provides the qualifications for speaking with any kind of authority on the subject…
by the way, i had a very revealing insight into ted tancredo when i was visiting my friend, who used to be the mexican vice consul in denver… let’s just say that tancredo is a very ugly customer…
of course Miami is as bad as any ghetto in a third world country…It has a lot of brown people. Blacks, Cubans, Haitians. Tancredo can’t stand brown people.
Tancredo once hired illegals to refinish his basement. Everybody here in Colorado knows he’s an idiot, but he keeps getting re-elected anyway. Tancredo also promised to limit his terms and broke that promise.
The people who vote for Tancredo are the same people who think a Christmas wreath in the shape of a peace sign is unacceptable speech which is disrespectful to the president. In other words, they’ve got their heads up their *sses.
Tancredo just committed political suicide. Even his constituents are embarrassed.
I guess Tancredo missed all these well-educated, perfectly bilingual, and obviously affluent people I kept bumping into in restaurants and upscale stores in Miami during my last visit.
Maybe he is jaleous because he is neither well-educated, nor bilingual, nor affluent…
i think Tancredo has a point. It is the truth. The Spanish folks mainly Cubans
take up political status and kick out the American born citizens and scam their way around. The immigration says ” English is a must” to me when Jeb Bush became Governor… It seems it is no longer required. It is a sad thing though where they step over the real American people ways. Yes the ones who are in charge of Miami (the Spanish ones) would come to the rescue. One said that this is a city where “diversity is celebrated.’ No I disagree with her, the only thing celebrated is when the Cubans come over to take over the city with the fleet of Prostitutes, Bad driving, scam’s and Gang bangers. If you are not Cuban, go to the back of the line. Most of South Americans and Central Americans and other Caribbean countries come here and join the American ways and speak English. Why not Cubans? As you can see in the news that guy who held up the Miami Herald…. he needed a translator. He can not speak English for how many years being in Miami, and got a job at a news papers. Tell me how fair is that to the other Americans in south Florida? I cannot see why there is still the “ wet foot dry foot†policy around . Which it really sound like “the white foot, black foot policy.†Because the Haitians and some other Caribbean people are sent back. Some are executed upon return. That is so un fair.
So I agree with Tancredo, it looks just like a Nasty 3rd world country in Miami. PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP!!
And Governor Jebby’s only response is that the remarks were ‘disappointing’ and ‘naive’? Wow, he really defended his state…..how about ‘That’s bullsh*t’?
White southerners cannot speak English either. In the movie “My Fair Lady,” Professor Dolittle says “in America they havent spoken English in years.” He was actually referring to the southern whites.
Hey Dems, visit little Havana and Dade County. Tom is correct, I visit Miami twice a year, and the only upscale areas known, from my perspective, are Broward County (Ft. Lauderdale) and Miami Beach (Ocean Drive, Collins Drive, Washington Blvd, Coconut Grove, Biscayne bay). That’s one place full of sin (Wet Willie’s, Fat Tuesday, Clevelander, Opium, SoBe, etc.).
Zooey, I may remember some of the addresses, but I won’t relay them to you because I will not support sin. I wasn’t down there to party, I was there for business purposes.
What Sam and Billy said-I was born and raised in Miami, about 10 blocks from the Orange Bowl, lived there for 40 years, and yes, I am a Democrat, raised in a proud Democratic home by my grandparents-Grandad was a coalminer and a staunch union man.
I am happy in America- Miami isn’t so much a third world country, it just isn’t America-my 80 year old grandmother once went to a county govt office to speak to someone about her taxes-when her turn came at the counter the person behind the counter couldn’t help her because she couldn’t speak English.
In Miami the trick is finding an English speaker- I am not talking about the fancy hotels, fancy malls, places that want the tourista money, I am talking about everyday life there, stopping to get gas, ask a question of a clerk in a big box store, that sort of thing. And in America, shouldn’t everyone in a government agency be able to communicate in English? I wouldn’t have the arrogance to go to a non-English speaking country and expect a govt employee to speak to me in English and not be able to speak the language of the country we were in, that would be very rude. My entire extended family left throughout the 90’s, the elders, to old and poor to leave, passed away, from sadness, I expect.
I was responding to the sections of the posts about feeling alienated in what you thought was America, that’s all. Anyway, not my problem anymore. I enjoyed the conversation, goodnight-I have to be at work early:-)
“A great demographic storm is breaking over America. The Republican Party may prove to be the least that it sweeps away.”
Fellow countrymen you must become informed. There are many sources of information that can be corroborated, which is important. Don’t assume you know what is going on unless you have read several sources, including many government pages.
I live in Miami. I am American but my family is Cuban. I dont agree with what Tancredo said ;however, Miami is a pretty crummy city. Traffic is bad, people are ignorant, service is horrible, and people have no aspirations to grow into a better people.
Open mouth wider, insert foot deeper.
November 29th, 2006 at 12:14 pmYet another clueless idiot representing the GOP. Do these clowns try to be ignorant, or does it just appear that way?
November 29th, 2006 at 12:16 pmmmm…Yep, I would invite you too walk through the “streets” of the favelas in Rio de Janeiro or Fuerte Apache in Buenos Aires…just like Miami.
November 29th, 2006 at 12:20 pmWhy do wingnuts hate America?
November 29th, 2006 at 12:20 pmTancredo needs a nice, comforting, steaming mug of shut the f*ck up.
November 29th, 2006 at 12:21 pmMore Republicans fighting Republicans. Excellent. I don’t know why everybody got worked up about the Majority Leader position “fight.” Democratic in-party conflicts never get as ignorant and stupid as this! Well with the exception of maybe Joe Lieberman, that is. Although he’s a DINO, so he doesn’t count!
November 29th, 2006 at 12:26 pmits because of teh gays, stoopid.
November 29th, 2006 at 12:27 pmZooey, would that steaming mug perhaps be topped off with a couple of glazed WTFs?
November 29th, 2006 at 12:29 pmI spent a week’s vacation in Miami, South Beach and the surrounding area this fall. Tancredo is full of sh*t. Any metro area has its places to avoid — I am sure that even Denver has some bad spots.
It is fun to watch the repubs squabble amongst themselves. Now that they have been rendered irrelevant, it is really all that they have to keep themselves busy. Soon they will start eating their young.
November 29th, 2006 at 12:31 pmThe latest Zogby polling shows that Latinos have lost faith in the Republican party in huge numbers. In 2004, Latino acceptance of the Repub party was in the 40’s. Now it’s down to about 25%. Let’s just hope that the Latino population in America helps us make the current version of Repubs an irrelevant fringe group with no electoral clout for decades to come. That’s what these f*ckers deserve!
November 29th, 2006 at 12:31 pmEr, Tancredo might be well served to visit the slums of Denver.
Disgusting, and probably just as dangerous.
Nice job, hypocite.
November 29th, 2006 at 12:41 pmUh
Have you seen Little Haiti in Miami? It’s pretty bad. Like, really bad.
Tancredo was probably saying this as an anti-Hispanic slur, so I wouldn’t stand behing him, but look. We have a serious problems in our ghettos, which are becoming increasingly poor, very violent, very drugged up, and very dangerous. Liberals should acknowledge that and think about ways to limit poverty in our country that really does approach third-world levels for some people.
November 29th, 2006 at 12:45 pmLiberals should acknowledge that and think about ways to limit poverty in our country that really does approach third-world levels for some people.
Comment by billy
Attention Billy: That’s what libs have been trying to do, but stupid greedy conservatives would rather DIE than help the poor.
Now, back under your rock…
November 29th, 2006 at 12:47 pmThe Tancredo Boys Strike Again…
Tom Tancredo and his virulently anti-Hispanic minions are making a strong bid to completely take over the GOP. With this kind of honesty, they’re on their way: Miami is “as bad as any ghetto in any Third World country,†says…
November 29th, 2006 at 12:52 pmTom, you are correct. Every city has a seedy spot. Even smaller cities like Spokane Washigton have bad areas. WHen I lived up there during the ’90s. There was an area we called crack whore alley. Shoot, even the little town of Tustin, California has an area at the Southern end that you wouldn’t want to be at night.
November 29th, 2006 at 12:55 pmHas Tancredo ever even been to Miami? I strongly doubt it…doesn’t sound like the Miami I’m familiar with. Certainly there’s a large (and controlling) faction of Cuban expats and their descendents, but many other diverse peoples live there as well. It’s what makes the city vibrant and interesting. On the other coast (probably Tancredo’s “dream”) is Naples, FL. That’s a white-bread place filled with too many people with too much money and too much time on their hands. BORING!!
November 29th, 2006 at 12:59 pmI am a liberal! And I know conservatives would rather die than help the poor! Don’t just dismiss arguments outright based on what you *think* the motivations of the speaker are.
November 29th, 2006 at 1:03 pmi have seen where the hispanics live in denver and i have seen whee the hispanics live in miami, and i have visited many latin american countries, and currently live part-time in one… i would like to see a list of countries that tancredo has visited and, if there are any, where in each country he visited and how much time he spent there… that kind of list provides the qualifications for speaking with any kind of authority on the subject…
by the way, i had a very revealing insight into ted tancredo when i was visiting my friend, who used to be the mexican vice consul in denver… let’s just say that tancredo is a very ugly customer…
And, yes, I DO take it personally
November 29th, 2006 at 1:05 pmZooey, would that steaming mug perhaps be topped off with a couple of glazed WTFs?
Comment by RUCerious
That would be nice on a cold morning, wouldn’t it.
November 29th, 2006 at 1:05 pmTancredo is trying to justify his anti-immagration stance. In the proces he sounds like an ass.
November 29th, 2006 at 1:35 pmThere was an area we called crack whore alley. Comment by SpudgeBoy
Funniest place in town, I guess.
November 29th, 2006 at 1:38 pmIt’s because of Gloria Estefan and the Miami Sound Machine.
November 29th, 2006 at 1:49 pmEven smaller cities like Spokane Washigton have bad areas.
Comment by SpudgeBoy
Spokane is a small city? I really am a hick, aren’t I?
November 29th, 2006 at 1:51 pmof course Miami is as bad as any ghetto in a third world country…It has a lot of brown people. Blacks, Cubans, Haitians. Tancredo can’t stand brown people.
Gloria Estefan is a crime against nature though.
November 29th, 2006 at 1:57 pmTancredo once hired illegals to refinish his basement. Everybody here in Colorado knows he’s an idiot, but he keeps getting re-elected anyway. Tancredo also promised to limit his terms and broke that promise.
November 29th, 2006 at 2:16 pmThe people who vote for Tancredo are the same people who think a Christmas wreath in the shape of a peace sign is unacceptable speech which is disrespectful to the president. In other words, they’ve got their heads up their *sses.
November 29th, 2006 at 2:22 pmTancredo just committed political suicide. Even his constituents are embarrassed.
I guess Tancredo missed all these well-educated, perfectly bilingual, and obviously affluent people I kept bumping into in restaurants and upscale stores in Miami during my last visit.
Maybe he is jaleous because he is neither well-educated, nor bilingual, nor affluent…
November 29th, 2006 at 2:35 pmi think Tancredo has a point. It is the truth. The Spanish folks mainly Cubans
November 29th, 2006 at 2:39 pmtake up political status and kick out the American born citizens and scam their way around. The immigration says ” English is a must” to me when Jeb Bush became Governor… It seems it is no longer required. It is a sad thing though where they step over the real American people ways. Yes the ones who are in charge of Miami (the Spanish ones) would come to the rescue. One said that this is a city where “diversity is celebrated.’ No I disagree with her, the only thing celebrated is when the Cubans come over to take over the city with the fleet of Prostitutes, Bad driving, scam’s and Gang bangers. If you are not Cuban, go to the back of the line. Most of South Americans and Central Americans and other Caribbean countries come here and join the American ways and speak English. Why not Cubans? As you can see in the news that guy who held up the Miami Herald…. he needed a translator. He can not speak English for how many years being in Miami, and got a job at a news papers. Tell me how fair is that to the other Americans in south Florida? I cannot see why there is still the “ wet foot dry foot†policy around . Which it really sound like “the white foot, black foot policy.†Because the Haitians and some other Caribbean people are sent back. Some are executed upon return. That is so un fair.
So I agree with Tancredo, it looks just like a Nasty 3rd world country in Miami. PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP!!
no big deal!!!
November 29th, 2006 at 2:42 pmHey Sam…ever been to Miami?
November 29th, 2006 at 2:47 pmwow, if I was in a third-world country, I would be pissed at that comparision.
November 29th, 2006 at 3:01 pmMiami is so great it doesn’t look like it’s the United States, but since Tancredo hates anything with latinamericans .. well, you get the idea …
November 29th, 2006 at 3:03 pmAt least I called it a city and not a village. : )
Compared to other big cities, yeah, Spokane is tiny. You can drive from one side to the other in 10 minutes in traffic.
November 29th, 2006 at 3:20 pmAnd Governor Jebby’s only response is that the remarks were ‘disappointing’ and ‘naive’? Wow, he really defended his state…..how about ‘That’s bullsh*t’?
Thank God I never voted for either Bush.
November 29th, 2006 at 3:22 pmSam:
White southerners cannot speak English either. In the movie “My Fair Lady,” Professor Dolittle says “in America they havent spoken English in years.” He was actually referring to the southern whites.
November 29th, 2006 at 4:11 pmHey Dems, visit little Havana and Dade County. Tom is correct, I visit Miami twice a year, and the only upscale areas known, from my perspective, are Broward County (Ft. Lauderdale) and Miami Beach (Ocean Drive, Collins Drive, Washington Blvd, Coconut Grove, Biscayne bay). That’s one place full of sin (Wet Willie’s, Fat Tuesday, Clevelander, Opium, SoBe, etc.).
November 29th, 2006 at 5:29 pmThat’s one place full of sin (Wet Willie’s, Fat Tuesday, Clevelander, Opium, SoBe, etc.).
Comment by Daryll
Daryll’s been naughty…do you have the addresses…?
November 29th, 2006 at 6:55 pmZooey, I may remember some of the addresses, but I won’t relay them to you because I will not support sin. I wasn’t down there to party, I was there for business purposes.
November 29th, 2006 at 7:32 pmI wasn’t down there to party, I was there for business purposes.
Comment by Daryll
Then why would you bother remembering the addresses, Daryll?
You don’t have to support sin, deary. My sin is self-supporting.
November 29th, 2006 at 7:47 pmWhat Sam and Billy said-I was born and raised in Miami, about 10 blocks from the Orange Bowl, lived there for 40 years, and yes, I am a Democrat, raised in a proud Democratic home by my grandparents-Grandad was a coalminer and a staunch union man.
November 29th, 2006 at 8:57 pmLast I heard there really wasn’t much point to visiting 3rd world countries for “business”. Guess I heard wrong.
November 29th, 2006 at 8:57 pmSo, Roberta, when was the last time you were to Bogota?
November 29th, 2006 at 9:01 pmI am happy in America- Miami isn’t so much a third world country, it just isn’t America-my 80 year old grandmother once went to a county govt office to speak to someone about her taxes-when her turn came at the counter the person behind the counter couldn’t help her because she couldn’t speak English.
November 29th, 2006 at 9:09 pm#45 What? Even in Wisconsin most businesses and all gov’t agencies have a Spanish speaker. I find it hard to believe nobody could help her.
November 29th, 2006 at 9:22 pmIn Miami the trick is finding an English speaker- I am not talking about the fancy hotels, fancy malls, places that want the tourista money, I am talking about everyday life there, stopping to get gas, ask a question of a clerk in a big box store, that sort of thing. And in America, shouldn’t everyone in a government agency be able to communicate in English? I wouldn’t have the arrogance to go to a non-English speaking country and expect a govt employee to speak to me in English and not be able to speak the language of the country we were in, that would be very rude. My entire extended family left throughout the 90’s, the elders, to old and poor to leave, passed away, from sadness, I expect.
November 29th, 2006 at 9:39 pmI find it difficult to believe that you have trouble finding English speakers, sorry.
November 29th, 2006 at 9:56 pmYou are entitled to your beliefs, I felt entitled to live in America, and now I do.
November 29th, 2006 at 10:07 pmCongratulations Roberta. I certainly hope that you don’t feel that lying makes you an American. Not all of us do that. Mostly, just our leaders.
November 29th, 2006 at 10:09 pmYou seem to be insinuating that I made up what I said, I didn’t, but as I said earlier, you are entitled to your beliefs.
November 29th, 2006 at 10:51 pmDo you see the lede on this story? You already admitted that Miami is no 3rd world country.
November 29th, 2006 at 10:55 pmI was responding to the sections of the posts about feeling alienated in what you thought was America, that’s all. Anyway, not my problem anymore. I enjoyed the conversation, goodnight-I have to be at work early:-)
November 29th, 2006 at 11:17 pmPeter Brimelow Archive
“A great demographic storm is breaking over America. The Republican Party may prove to be the least that it sweeps away.”
Fellow countrymen you must become informed. There are many sources of information that can be corroborated, which is important. Don’t assume you know what is going on unless you have read several sources, including many government pages.
November 29th, 2006 at 11:51 pmOk, Patrick. You might want to go to freeperville and say that. We are not stupid.
November 29th, 2006 at 11:53 pmI live in Miami. I am American but my family is Cuban. I dont agree with what Tancredo said ;however, Miami is a pretty crummy city. Traffic is bad, people are ignorant, service is horrible, and people have no aspirations to grow into a better people.
November 30th, 2006 at 8:27 am