Comments on: House Conservatives Push Fringe Abortion Measure Instead Of Vital Budget Bills http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 03:28:04 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Flaco http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/comment-page-3/#comment-1229219 Flaco Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:15:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/#comment-1229219 <em>#130 I understand people’s faith. I grew up Christian myself, so I have lived it. </em> Typical bullshit from a arrogant libtard. Clueless best descibes this highly educated moron. #130
I understand people’s faith. I grew up Christian myself, so I have lived it.

Typical bullshit from a arrogant libtard. Clueless best descibes this highly educated moron.

]]> By: Bruce Gorton http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/comment-page-3/#comment-1223223 Bruce Gorton Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:55:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/#comment-1223223 JPark As a South Africa, I take offence and, what the hell are you talking about? I haven't posted on this thread. JPark

As a South Africa, I take offence and, what the hell are you talking about? I haven’t posted on this thread.

]]> By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/comment-page-3/#comment-1220490 unbelievable Mon, 04 Dec 2006 02:06:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/#comment-1220490 <em>Really??? You argue with people all the time that which you know nothing about. </em> Never. Your inability to be specif validates that. <em>(Hint: your sweeping “pronouncements” comparing God to Santa Claus indicates no understanding of people’s faith.) </em> I understand people's faith. I grew up Christian myself, so I have lived it. It's because it upsets you so much that my Santa to god comparision is very effective - and true. <em>BTW, if YOU won each debate I would suspect the opponents to be deaf-mutes….because you are often refutable…. Comment by mighty aphrodite — December 2, 2006 @ 7:31 pm</em> You haven't been able to refute me yet. And as usual, fallacious logic from you to assume that you are an authority over something you do not understand (argument)... it's how we know that you are not a lawyer. You can't make one. Really??? You argue with people all the time that which you know nothing about.

Never. Your inability to be specif validates that.

(Hint: your sweeping “pronouncements” comparing God to Santa Claus indicates no understanding of people’s faith.)

I understand people’s faith. I grew up Christian myself, so I have lived it. It’s because it upsets you so much that my Santa to god comparision is very effective – and true.

BTW, if YOU won each debate I would suspect the opponents to be deaf-mutes….because you are often refutable….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — December 2, 2006 @ 7:31 pm

You haven’t been able to refute me yet.

And as usual, fallacious logic from you to assume that you are an authority over something you do not understand (argument)… it’s how we know that you are not a lawyer. You can’t make one.

]]> By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/comment-page-3/#comment-1220481 unbelievable Mon, 04 Dec 2006 02:02:44 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/#comment-1220481 <em>If you have to argue for something the first half and against that same something during the second half, you could not get away with the HYPOCRASY that makes the current debate format useless. What do you think? Comment by criticalthinker — December 2, 2006 @ 5:38 pm</em> It's a technique used by debate teams to strengthen their own position or be able to argue anything. Peronally, I have a hard time giving the other side ammunition :) but by understanding their perspective, it is easier to take apart their arguments - as demostrated in this thread with MA's silly comments... Could you argue both sides equally effectively? If you have to argue for something the first half and against that same something during the second half, you could not get away with the HYPOCRASY that makes the current debate format useless.
What do you think?
Comment by criticalthinker — December 2, 2006 @ 5:38 pm

It’s a technique used by debate teams to strengthen their own position or be able to argue anything.

Peronally, I have a hard time giving the other side ammunition :) but by understanding their perspective, it is easier to take apart their arguments – as demostrated in this thread with MA’s silly comments…

Could you argue both sides equally effectively?

]]> By: Mary http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/comment-page-3/#comment-1218975 Mary Sun, 03 Dec 2006 17:13:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/#comment-1218975 Reading through the comments I find that the point of debate has been missed by almost all.The issue is anesthetic for the baby about to be killed by having its body severed. If a woman wishes an abortion she should be willing to have the procedure prior to quickening, the period of gestation where the movement of the fetus becomes noticeable, as that point is when the brain is actually functioning enutero and the humane thing to do would be to anesthesize the living being that is forcibly removed from their enviroment. I am all for birth control options but abortion is not one of them. It seems that many who use that method are those who are more selfish than those with less sustenance or ability to raise a child. Give the "clump of tissue" pain relief. As for the 109th, they have made such a mess and intend to leave it for the Dems, that will play for their side when election time rolls around again and the bloated dollar continues to sink, whose fault will it be? Reading through the comments I find that the point of debate has been missed by almost all.The issue is anesthetic for the baby about to be killed by having its body severed. If a woman wishes an abortion she should be willing to have the procedure prior to quickening, the period of gestation where the movement of the fetus becomes noticeable, as that point is when the brain is actually functioning enutero and the humane thing to do would be to anesthesize the living being that is forcibly removed from their enviroment. I am all for birth control options but abortion is not one of them. It seems that many who use that method are those who are more selfish than those with less sustenance or ability to raise a child. Give the “clump of tissue” pain relief. As for the 109th, they have made such a mess and intend to leave it for the Dems, that will play for their side when election time rolls around again and the bloated dollar continues to sink, whose fault will it be?

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/comment-page-3/#comment-1216255 JPark Sun, 03 Dec 2006 01:36:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/#comment-1216255 I own you MA. Give it up. I own you MA. Give it up.

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/comment-page-3/#comment-1216215 JPark Sun, 03 Dec 2006 01:27:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/#comment-1216215 Funny, MA, it is hilarious when you denigrate hungry people...not surprising though. I bet you had a hundred of them in the 80's for the Ethiopians...and dammit, they are just as funny now. Funny, MA, it is hilarious when you denigrate hungry people…not surprising though. I bet you had a hundred of them in the 80’s for the Ethiopians…and dammit, they are just as funny now.

]]> By: mighty aphrodite http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/comment-page-3/#comment-1216187 mighty aphrodite Sun, 03 Dec 2006 01:22:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/#comment-1216187 #123 "Wow, Mr. South African Aphro, " Comment by JPark *****Dear JPark - on your return to North Korea please be advised that BBQ dog is no longer offered of the menus - there are none left to be had in that starving dictatorship.... #123 “Wow, Mr. South African Aphro, ” Comment by JPark

*****Dear JPark – on your return to North Korea please be advised that BBQ dog is no longer offered of the menus – there are none left to be had in that starving dictatorship….

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/comment-page-3/#comment-1215859 JPark Sun, 03 Dec 2006 00:36:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/#comment-1215859 #123 Wow, Mr. South African Aphro, watch the projection, you know nothing about everything and insist that everybody knows it. Thanks. #123 Wow, Mr. South African Aphro, watch the projection, you know nothing about everything and insist that everybody knows it. Thanks.

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/comment-page-3/#comment-1215846 JPark Sun, 03 Dec 2006 00:34:39 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/#comment-1215846 #100 You are a virgin, aren't you, Flaco? #100 You are a virgin, aren’t you, Flaco?

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/comment-page-3/#comment-1215843 JPark Sun, 03 Dec 2006 00:34:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/#comment-1215843 #98 That is "book larnin". Please don't speak above it, it might not understand. #98 That is “book larnin”. Please don’t speak above it, it might not understand.

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/comment-page-3/#comment-1215835 JPark Sun, 03 Dec 2006 00:32:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/#comment-1215835 #93 Of course logical discourse is beyond you. You didn't need to inform us, it was quite clear. #93 Of course logical discourse is beyond you. You didn’t need to inform us, it was quite clear.

]]> By: mighty aphrodite http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/comment-page-2/#comment-1215822 mighty aphrodite Sun, 03 Dec 2006 00:31:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/#comment-1215822 "I never lost a debate in high school or college because I don’t argue anything in which I don’t understand both sides." Comment by *-*-*-*-*- ********Really??? You argue with people all the time that which you know nothing about. (Hint: your sweeping "pronouncements" comparing God to Santa Claus indicates no understanding of people's faith.) BTW, if YOU won each debate I would suspect the opponents to be deaf-mutes....because you are often refutable.... “I never lost a debate in high school or college because I don’t argue anything in which I don’t understand both sides.”
Comment by *-*-*-*-*-

********Really??? You argue with people all the time that which you know nothing about. (Hint: your sweeping “pronouncements” comparing God to Santa Claus indicates no understanding of people’s faith.) BTW, if YOU won each debate I would suspect the opponents to be deaf-mutes….because you are often refutable….

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/comment-page-2/#comment-1215809 JPark Sun, 03 Dec 2006 00:29:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/#comment-1215809 #70 Flaco, please cite your source, and it had not be connected with any murdering "Army of God" group. #70 Flaco, please cite your source, and it had not be connected with any murdering “Army of God” group.

]]> By: criticalthinker http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/comment-page-2/#comment-1215501 criticalthinker Sat, 02 Dec 2006 22:38:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/#comment-1215501 Re#117 unbelievable I know this is off topic, but I believe that all debates in their current format are useless because the participants do not have to argue both sides. If you have to argue for something the first half and against that same something during the second half, you could not get away with the HYPOCRASY that makes the current debate format useless. What do you think? Re#117 unbelievable

I know this is off topic, but I believe that all debates in their current format are useless because the participants do not have to argue both sides.

If you have to argue for something the first half and against that same something during the second half, you could not get away with the HYPOCRASY that makes the current debate format useless.

What do you think?

]]> By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/comment-page-2/#comment-1215421 unbelievable Sat, 02 Dec 2006 22:15:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/#comment-1215421 <em>Flaco = I-RIGHT-I Comment by Shut Up — December 2, 2006 @ 10:15 am</em> IRI is too arrogant to use another name. Flaco is most likely a manifestation of MA. Flaco = I-RIGHT-I
Comment by Shut Up — December 2, 2006 @ 10:15 am

IRI is too arrogant to use another name. Flaco is most likely a manifestation of MA.

]]> By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/comment-page-2/#comment-1215413 unbelievable Sat, 02 Dec 2006 22:11:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/#comment-1215413 <em>unbelievable has an very appropriate name. Not real bright typical liberal college education not worth much. Comment by Flaco — December 2, 2006 @ 2:23 am</em> Yes, it's in reference to your ignorance. Definitely more appropriate in this thread than in some others. "Not real bright"... Ha ha ha ha... It's "not really bright". And it sounds like you're projecting again... And jealous. unbelievable has an very appropriate name.
Not real bright typical liberal college education not worth much.
Comment by Flaco — December 2, 2006 @ 2:23 am

Yes, it’s in reference to your ignorance. Definitely more appropriate in this thread than in some others.

“Not real bright”… Ha ha ha ha… It’s “not really bright”. And it sounds like you’re projecting again… And jealous.

]]> By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/comment-page-2/#comment-1215410 unbelievable Sat, 02 Dec 2006 22:09:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/#comment-1215410 <em>I’m afraid that unbelievable’s idea of “logical discourse” seems to me mere ground-shifting and incoherence, cloaked in bluster. </em> You're afraid of that? Well, let me assure you that this is not the case. I never lost a debate in high school or college because I don't argue anything in which I don't understand both sides. <em>Anyone who really thinks that the key issue is “consciousness” should reflect on the comments by Barnoness Greenfield, an eminent authority on the neurology of consciousness, which I quoted above. Comment by CouldBeeWorse — December 1, 2006 @ 11:12 pm</em> Interesting how you offerend nothing in the way of facts to support your assertion. And how you missed the reality that pain is a result of being conscious. However, consciousness covers many more areas than just pain. I’m afraid that unbelievable’s idea of “logical discourse” seems to me mere ground-shifting and incoherence, cloaked in bluster.

You’re afraid of that? Well, let me assure you that this is not the case. I never lost a debate in high school or college because I don’t argue anything in which I don’t understand both sides.

Anyone who really thinks that the key issue is “consciousness” should reflect on the comments by Barnoness Greenfield, an eminent authority on the neurology of consciousness, which I quoted above.
Comment by CouldBeeWorse — December 1, 2006 @ 11:12 pm

Interesting how you offerend nothing in the way of facts to support your assertion.

And how you missed the reality that pain is a result of being conscious. However, consciousness covers many more areas than just pain.

]]> By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/comment-page-2/#comment-1215403 unbelievable Sat, 02 Dec 2006 22:05:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/#comment-1215403 <em>Typical atheist fundy self righteousness full of themselves/shit puffed up book knowledge so what - Very little wisdom BIG difference Comment by Flaco — December 2, 2006 @ 12:28 am</em> Most of my wisdom comes from experience. Proves how little you know. But, as a hint, when you pitch an angry fit over people smarter than you, it proves that you are lacking in that capacity (which was already obvious anyway). Typical atheist fundy self righteousness full of themselves/shit puffed up book knowledge so what – Very little wisdom BIG difference
Comment by Flaco — December 2, 2006 @ 12:28 am

Most of my wisdom comes from experience. Proves how little you know.

But, as a hint, when you pitch an angry fit over people smarter than you, it proves that you are lacking in that capacity (which was already obvious anyway).

]]> By: Wally Wonders Why - My Conservative Christian Republican view from Whatcom County » Does a pre-birth baby feel pain? Should you care? http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/comment-page-2/#comment-1215384 Wally Wonders Why - My Conservative Christian Republican view from Whatcom County » Does a pre-birth baby feel pain? Should you care? Sat, 02 Dec 2006 21:57:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/01/congress-budget/#comment-1215384 [...] From our progressive friends at Think Progress we have House Conservatives Push Fringe Abortion Measure Instead Of Vital Budget Bills [...] [...] From our progressive friends at Think Progress we have House Conservatives Push Fringe Abortion Measure Instead Of Vital Budget Bills [...]

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