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		<title>By: BigDog</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mookie al-Sadr likely to disban Mehdi militia - Page 3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mookie al-Sadr likely to disban Mehdi militia - Page 3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sorry ;that is not what he said prior to adopting the surge strategy   U.S. Not Winning War in Iraq, Bush Says for 1st Time - washingtonpost.com  Neither did incoming Sec Def Robert Gates in testimony   Think Progress ? Blog Archive ? VIDEO: Gates Says U.S. Is Not Winning Iraq War [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sorry ;that is not what he said prior to adopting the surge strategy   U.S. Not Winning War in Iraq, Bush Says for 1st Time &#8211; washingtonpost.com  Neither did incoming Sec Def Robert Gates in testimony   Think Progress ? Blog Archive ? VIDEO: Gates Says U.S. Is Not Winning Iraq War [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4845112', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: surgical procedure</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 04:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: A Newer World &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What a Difference an Election Makes</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Newer World &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What a Difference an Election Makes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On October 25th, when asked whether the United States was winning in Iraq, President Bush replied: &#8220;Absolutely. We&#8217;re winning.&#8220; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On October 25th, when asked whether the United States was winning in Iraq, President Bush replied: &#8220;Absolutely. We&#8217;re winning.&#8220; [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1296083', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tris</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/05/gates-iraq-not-winning/comment-page-2/#comment-1249572</link>
		<dc:creator>Tris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 09:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#60, Glen -- take a breather, pal.  While you&#039;re clearly frustrated, it might be nice if you used some logic in there, like &quot;President Bush is NOT a war criminal for the following reasons:&quot;.

Here are some good reasons why Bush might be considered a war criminal: he knowingly and with intent to defraud the citizens of the United States and the world engaged in a war that ultimately in no way met any criteria established for the engagement.

The war perpetrated by his government has lead to over a half of a million civilian deaths.  For perspective, that number would be like having September the 11th, every single day.  For seven months.  Oh, and only in civilian lives.

The interrogation policies initiated by his regime led directly to war crimes that, quite literally, should be prosecuted as international war crimes.  See: Abu Ghraib, and certainly thousands of other cases you&#039;ll never hear about, and never want to hear about.

He has blatantly denied adherence to international treaties establishing the laws of war, claiming that this &quot;new war&quot; needs new rules.  This very denial is itself a crime of war.  You want to know the first thing that Hitler did when he first officially declared war?  He forsook all treaties pertaining to war crimes previously agreed upon.  That&#039;s just a little anecdotal evidence, certainly not direct.

But to the point: aside from the outrage, and all the media coverage, the question was: do you think we&#039;re winning in Iraq?  Sure, we&#039;re winning in Iraq.  Or no, we&#039;re not, it doesn&#039;t matter.  What&#039;s to WIN?  We&#039;ve already guaranteed that generations of Iraqis will hate america, increased tensions in the region, convinced every other country in the world that we really are as egocentric and power-hungry as the gloomiest doomsayers claimed, and lost the incredible balance of political capital earned through the 90s, and further bolstered after September 11th.

And answer me this: name one thing that the government has done that has bettered America&#039;s position or Americans&#039; welfare during Bush&#039;s presidency.  On the day that Bush took office, that day, what is better today than then?  I can think of very few things.  I personally believe our federal reserve and open market policy is better (though you&#039;d not know it due to the economy), I believe our accountability for corporate entities is better, and what else?  Maybe taxes (but not by much, statistically, except if you&#039;re making $300k or more).  

Social programs are worse.  Health coverage has gone down.  Obviously, we are in a tenuous situation at best in international politics (thanks, John Bolton).  Our economy is still struggling, despite desperate attempts to adjust economic policy.  Unemployment is up, illegal immigration is up, the number of well-educated US citizens moving abroad is up.  The dollar is down.  Costs of education are way up, costs of living are way up, housing costs are way up.  Manufacturing is on the brink of disintegration.

So, my challenge to Bush supporters is this.  Forget what he&#039;s done wrong, what has Bush possibly changed for the better?

And no, &quot;gettin&#039; them demie-krat pigs out of the whyte house&quot; is not an acceptable answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#60, Glen &#8212; take a breather, pal.  While you&#8217;re clearly frustrated, it might be nice if you used some logic in there, like &#8220;President Bush is NOT a war criminal for the following reasons:&#8221;.</p>
<p>Here are some good reasons why Bush might be considered a war criminal: he knowingly and with intent to defraud the citizens of the United States and the world engaged in a war that ultimately in no way met any criteria established for the engagement.</p>
<p>The war perpetrated by his government has lead to over a half of a million civilian deaths.  For perspective, that number would be like having September the 11th, every single day.  For seven months.  Oh, and only in civilian lives.</p>
<p>The interrogation policies initiated by his regime led directly to war crimes that, quite literally, should be prosecuted as international war crimes.  See: Abu Ghraib, and certainly thousands of other cases you&#8217;ll never hear about, and never want to hear about.</p>
<p>He has blatantly denied adherence to international treaties establishing the laws of war, claiming that this &#8220;new war&#8221; needs new rules.  This very denial is itself a crime of war.  You want to know the first thing that Hitler did when he first officially declared war?  He forsook all treaties pertaining to war crimes previously agreed upon.  That&#8217;s just a little anecdotal evidence, certainly not direct.</p>
<p>But to the point: aside from the outrage, and all the media coverage, the question was: do you think we&#8217;re winning in Iraq?  Sure, we&#8217;re winning in Iraq.  Or no, we&#8217;re not, it doesn&#8217;t matter.  What&#8217;s to WIN?  We&#8217;ve already guaranteed that generations of Iraqis will hate america, increased tensions in the region, convinced every other country in the world that we really are as egocentric and power-hungry as the gloomiest doomsayers claimed, and lost the incredible balance of political capital earned through the 90s, and further bolstered after September 11th.</p>
<p>And answer me this: name one thing that the government has done that has bettered America&#8217;s position or Americans&#8217; welfare during Bush&#8217;s presidency.  On the day that Bush took office, that day, what is better today than then?  I can think of very few things.  I personally believe our federal reserve and open market policy is better (though you&#8217;d not know it due to the economy), I believe our accountability for corporate entities is better, and what else?  Maybe taxes (but not by much, statistically, except if you&#8217;re making $300k or more).  </p>
<p>Social programs are worse.  Health coverage has gone down.  Obviously, we are in a tenuous situation at best in international politics (thanks, John Bolton).  Our economy is still struggling, despite desperate attempts to adjust economic policy.  Unemployment is up, illegal immigration is up, the number of well-educated US citizens moving abroad is up.  The dollar is down.  Costs of education are way up, costs of living are way up, housing costs are way up.  Manufacturing is on the brink of disintegration.</p>
<p>So, my challenge to Bush supporters is this.  Forget what he&#8217;s done wrong, what has Bush possibly changed for the better?</p>
<p>And no, &#8220;gettin&#8217; them demie-krat pigs out of the whyte house&#8221; is not an acceptable answer.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1249572', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Glen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 07:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who thinks that President Bush is a war Crinminal is an AS#$OLE!!!!!!!  This is the United States of America, if you don&#039;t like it leave!!!  I will gladly buy you a ticket out of here!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who thinks that President Bush is a war Crinminal is an AS#$OLE!!!!!!!  This is the United States of America, if you don&#8217;t like it leave!!!  I will gladly buy you a ticket out of here!!!!!!!!!!!!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1249098', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Joeslogic</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/05/gates-iraq-not-winning/comment-page-2/#comment-1236684</link>
		<dc:creator>Joeslogic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 22:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The media and Democrats have gone out of their way to define Iraq as a failure. Fact is we won in the battle with Iraq. Now we are fighting a war on terror. 

 &quot;Mission Accomplished&quot;

What we have here right now is a humanitarian effort for the benefit of the Iraqi people. The fact is being hidden that the other oil producing countries are strategically opposed to Iraqi competition on the oil market as a democracy. You have to look at motive them simply consider that a democratic Iraq is a threat to the current status quo. And don&#039;t give this bologna about Iran being a democracy either. 

Once you have established that simple fact it becomes obvious considering that Iran and Syria are assisting the Mahidi army that they are indeed on the side of evil. 

The problem is the Democrats have been given total freedom to play armchair quarter back with impunity by the media. They are the spoilers in the War against Terrorism&quot; once again look at who benefits and you have motive. The problem is with this strategy we all loose. I disagree with Bush caving in to their game in hopes that he will gain an ally in the war instead they will only take the knife that they have imbedded into Bush&#039;s back and twist and slash for better effect. 

The only way to level the playing field is if the media properly informs the public a properly informed public will do the right thing. This idea of posturing for a Vietnam scenario in order to wreak the benefit of preaching a false story of failure instead of the real story of betrayal does no one any good. 

Consider this if we only went after Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Our troops get hit with WMD&#039;s Shall I remind you of the 50 or so quotes by high level Democrats touting the thread that Saddam poses to National security? These going back into the 90&#039;s? If it had happened we would sure be hearing about how Bush screwed up by not covering our flank side and addressing the Iraq problem. 

When the world can see that Iraq is a problem that deserves to be looked at as a humanitarian issue and sees the true picture of what the problem is. Instead of a Bush vs. the world and the Democrats on the side of the world issue as it has been framed. There never will be a good ending to this story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The media and Democrats have gone out of their way to define Iraq as a failure. Fact is we won in the battle with Iraq. Now we are fighting a war on terror. </p>
<p> &#8220;Mission Accomplished&#8221;</p>
<p>What we have here right now is a humanitarian effort for the benefit of the Iraqi people. The fact is being hidden that the other oil producing countries are strategically opposed to Iraqi competition on the oil market as a democracy. You have to look at motive them simply consider that a democratic Iraq is a threat to the current status quo. And don&#8217;t give this bologna about Iran being a democracy either. </p>
<p>Once you have established that simple fact it becomes obvious considering that Iran and Syria are assisting the Mahidi army that they are indeed on the side of evil. </p>
<p>The problem is the Democrats have been given total freedom to play armchair quarter back with impunity by the media. They are the spoilers in the War against Terrorism&#8221; once again look at who benefits and you have motive. The problem is with this strategy we all loose. I disagree with Bush caving in to their game in hopes that he will gain an ally in the war instead they will only take the knife that they have imbedded into Bush&#8217;s back and twist and slash for better effect. </p>
<p>The only way to level the playing field is if the media properly informs the public a properly informed public will do the right thing. This idea of posturing for a Vietnam scenario in order to wreak the benefit of preaching a false story of failure instead of the real story of betrayal does no one any good. </p>
<p>Consider this if we only went after Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Our troops get hit with WMD&#8217;s Shall I remind you of the 50 or so quotes by high level Democrats touting the thread that Saddam poses to National security? These going back into the 90&#8217;s? If it had happened we would sure be hearing about how Bush screwed up by not covering our flank side and addressing the Iraq problem. </p>
<p>When the world can see that Iraq is a problem that deserves to be looked at as a humanitarian issue and sees the true picture of what the problem is. Instead of a Bush vs. the world and the Democrats on the side of the world issue as it has been framed. There never will be a good ending to this story.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1236684', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: jammedup</title>
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		<dc:creator>jammedup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Is Why The Iraqis Hate Us
Another beating snuff video shames coalition of the killing, You Tube censors it 

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Friday, November 17, 2006

British troops punch, beat and kick pleading Iraqi children as a sadistic comrade films the brutal scenes of torture, laughing, screaming, growling and frothing like a serial killer filming a snuff movie. This is why the Iraqis hate us. 

Iraqi children throw rocks as they flee from running British troops, are grabbed, brought inside a gate and beaten half to death. Watch the video below. The censorship spies at You Tube rejected it 2 minutes after upload so I re-named it â€œFluffy Happy Poodles In Heaven,â€ to try and bypass their keyword filters and it was still rejected. I even renamed the actual â€˜wmvâ€™ filename but it was still blocked for â€œterms of use violation.â€ I finally managed to get it posted on Google Video. If it disappears again, hereâ€™s the Windows Media link on our server.

November 19th: Google removed the video too! So hereâ€™s an old copy the censors at You Tube missed.

They keep killing this guys video so here is the link 

http://prisonplanet.com/video/171106beating.wmv

share it with all you know.burn it to cd pass them out.it will diappear for good soon I fear.

get it while it lives,as a policy changer. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Is Why The Iraqis Hate Us<br />
Another beating snuff video shames coalition of the killing, You Tube censors it </p>
<p>Paul Joseph Watson<br />
Prison Planet<br />
Friday, November 17, 2006</p>
<p>British troops punch, beat and kick pleading Iraqi children as a sadistic comrade films the brutal scenes of torture, laughing, screaming, growling and frothing like a serial killer filming a snuff movie. This is why the Iraqis hate us. </p>
<p>Iraqi children throw rocks as they flee from running British troops, are grabbed, brought inside a gate and beaten half to death. Watch the video below. The censorship spies at You Tube rejected it 2 minutes after upload so I re-named it â€œFluffy Happy Poodles In Heaven,â€ to try and bypass their keyword filters and it was still rejected. I even renamed the actual â€˜wmvâ€™ filename but it was still blocked for â€œterms of use violation.â€ I finally managed to get it posted on Google Video. If it disappears again, hereâ€™s the Windows Media link on our server.</p>
<p>November 19th: Google removed the video too! So hereâ€™s an old copy the censors at You Tube missed.</p>
<p>They keep killing this guys video so here is the link </p>
<p><a href="http://prisonplanet.com/video/171106beating.wmv" rel="nofollow">http://prisonplanet.com/video/171106beating.wmv</a></p>
<p>share it with all you know.burn it to cd pass them out.it will diappear for good soon I fear.</p>
<p>get it while it lives,as a policy changer. </p>
<p>Comment by prison boots â€” December 6, 2006 @ 5:48 am<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1233537', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JPark</title>
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		<dc:creator>JPark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 03:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Douglas G.  That sounds SO much better.  &quot;We are not winning but we are not losing either&quot;.  Yup, that is what my Packers said when they were down by 24 in the 3rd quarter.  Shut up already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Douglas G.  That sounds SO much better.  &#8220;We are not winning but we are not losing either&#8221;.  Yup, that is what my Packers said when they were down by 24 in the 3rd quarter.  Shut up already.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1231693', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: slingin sammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>slingin sammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 00:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We now attain a strictly defensive posture in Iraq.So in military jargon this equates to term, &quot;bugout&quot;

No clarification needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We now attain a strictly defensive posture in Iraq.So in military jargon this equates to term, &#8220;bugout&#8221;</p>
<p>No clarification needed.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1231109', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WaltTheMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>WaltTheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 22:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#53 - Douglas G.,
That sounds an awful like the standard definition for &quot;quagmire&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#53 &#8211; Douglas G.,<br />
That sounds an awful like the standard definition for &#8220;quagmire&#8221;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1230382', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tarazan</title>
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		<dc:creator>tarazan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 21:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why Gates can say now &quot;we are NOT winning the war in Iraq&quot; When Congressman Murtha and others said the same thing last year and were denounced as cowards who want to &#039;cut &amp; run&quot; and their love for America and patriotism were questioned by Fox and rightwingers..? this shows in fact that Congressman J. Murtha and many million Americans like him in fact were a year ahead of this administration....and lives could have been saved as a result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Gates can say now &#8220;we are NOT winning the war in Iraq&#8221; When Congressman Murtha and others said the same thing last year and were denounced as cowards who want to &#8216;cut &amp; run&#8221; and their love for America and patriotism were questioned by Fox and rightwingers..? this shows in fact that Congressman J. Murtha and many million Americans like him in fact were a year ahead of this administration&#8230;.and lives could have been saved as a result.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1230235', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Douglas G.</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/05/gates-iraq-not-winning/comment-page-2/#comment-1230214</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 21:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not publish the ENTIRE quote, he said &quot; we are not winnig, but we are not losing either&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not publish the ENTIRE quote, he said &#8221; we are not winnig, but we are not losing either&#8221;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1230214', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ForTruth</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/05/gates-iraq-not-winning/comment-page-2/#comment-1230097</link>
		<dc:creator>ForTruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 20:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened to the whole, &quot;Why do you hate America, or the troops, or why do you love the terrorists?&quot;

Every single effing Republican that used that rhetoric should apologize immmediatly. We&#039;ve been telling you its a mess and there is no way to win for 2 years. We love America and our troops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened to the whole, &#8220;Why do you hate America, or the troops, or why do you love the terrorists?&#8221;</p>
<p>Every single effing Republican that used that rhetoric should apologize immmediatly. We&#8217;ve been telling you its a mess and there is no way to win for 2 years. We love America and our troops.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1230097', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: rakhia</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/05/gates-iraq-not-winning/comment-page-2/#comment-1229972</link>
		<dc:creator>rakhia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 19:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>uh, the US is not losing . . . they&#039;ve lost!! Now it&#039;s just a matter of digging the hole deeper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uh, the US is not losing . . . they&#8217;ve lost!! Now it&#8217;s just a matter of digging the hole deeper.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1229972', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/05/gates-iraq-not-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-1229867</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 19:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#49

Yes we should really take the word of outsiders who don&#039;t live there over those who do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#49</p>
<p>Yes we should really take the word of outsiders who don&#8217;t live there over those who do.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1229867', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: SpudgeBoy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/05/gates-iraq-not-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-1229744</link>
		<dc:creator>SpudgeBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 19:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Tracy&#039;s link in #43

&lt;blockquote&gt;
&quot;The situation is bad and it is getting worse,&quot; an official from the main Shi&#039;ite political bloc, the United Alliance, told Reuters. &quot;But one thing is certain -- this is not yet civil war.

&quot;I hope we never get there because if we do the killing will be on a massive scale -- the Iraqi people would become extinct.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In other words, the Shiites haven&#039;t really started killin&#039; yet, just give 
&#039;em more time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Tracy&#8217;s link in #43</p>
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&#8220;The situation is bad and it is getting worse,&#8221; an official from the main Shi&#8217;ite political bloc, the United Alliance, told Reuters. &#8220;But one thing is certain &#8212; this is not yet civil war.</p>
<p>&#8220;I hope we never get there because if we do the killing will be on a massive scale &#8212; the Iraqi people would become extinct.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>In other words, the Shiites haven&#8217;t really started killin&#8217; yet, just give<br />
&#8216;em more time.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1229744', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/05/gates-iraq-not-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-1229732</link>
		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 19:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He later said he believed the U.S. was not losing either &quot;at this point.&quot;

So he did nothing but create a headline to appease some of the sheep.

Another day in our do-nothing governmental process.  Yawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He later said he believed the U.S. was not losing either &#8220;at this point.&#8221;</p>
<p>So he did nothing but create a headline to appease some of the sheep.</p>
<p>Another day in our do-nothing governmental process.  Yawn.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1229732', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: SpudgeBoy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/05/gates-iraq-not-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-1229729</link>
		<dc:creator>SpudgeBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 19:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Gates also said Iraq is a main battlefront in the War on Terror.

Comment by Exley â€” December 5, 2006 @ 1:27 pm
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He also helped to cover-up the Iran/Contra scandal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Gates also said Iraq is a main battlefront in the War on Terror.</p>
<p>Comment by Exley â€” December 5, 2006 @ 1:27 pm
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<p>He also helped to cover-up the Iran/Contra scandal.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1229729', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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