I’m just glad to hear the good news that Robert Gates CHANGED HIS MIND! We AIN’T losin’ the war AFTER ALL!!! It only took a couple 30 minutes or so of lunch and waterboarding with Vice Preznit Cheney to get him to see things clearly. I was worried there for a minnit…
#3, yeah that was a slick one wasn’t it. Meanwhile every news headline in the world is sticking with “Gates says we’re not winning”. That HAD to be scripted.
After the big hit Pfizer took on its new heart medicine (the one which made patients worse, and or killed them), Rumpty’s stock portfolio ain’t looking so good.
He may have asked the Pentagon staffers to take the pictures down early so he can have some presents to hand out for the Holidays.
Pentagon staffers already replacing Rumsfeld’s picturefrom the walls of the Pentagon with pictures of Robert Gates, before Gates has even been confirmed, CNN reports.
They might glue those pictures over some cork and use them as dart boards.
Notice how quickly Gates re-stated his early comment about not winning in Iraq – after lunch, he clarified it and said not winning doesn’t equate with losing.
Why do we always hear about this as if it were a game of Risk? Parlor games and sports events have winners and losers – in war, everyone is a loser. Who determines what constitutes a win? or a victory? The decider? The score-keeper of the bodies? What is the mission, the goal?
Every justification Bush&Co gave has been debunked and abandoned. He and his neocon administration should be the ones in Iraq – and if they die, well, their deaths would be numbers.
The media and Democrats have gone out of their way to define Iraq as a failure. Fact is we won in the battle with Iraq. Now we are fighting a war on terror.
“Mission Accomplished”
What we have here right now is a humanitarian effort for the benefit of the Iraqi people. The fact is being hidden that the other oil producing countries are strategically opposed to Iraqi competition on the oil market as a democracy. You have to look at motive them simply consider that a democratic Iraq is a threat to the current status quo. And don’t give this bologna about Iran being a democracy either.
Once you have established that simple fact it becomes obvious considering that Iran and Syria are assisting the Mahidi army that they are indeed on the side of evil.
The problem is the Democrats have been given total freedom to play armchair quarter back with impunity by the media. They are the spoilers in the War against Terrorism” once again look at who benefits and you have motive. The problem is with this strategy we all loose. I disagree with Bush caving in to their game in hopes that he will gain an ally in the war instead they will only take the knife that they have imbedded into Bush’s back and twist and slash for better effect.
The only way to level the playing field is if the media properly informs the public a properly informed public will do the right thing. This idea of posturing for a Vietnam scenario in order to wreak the benefit of preaching a false story of failure instead of the real story of betrayal does no one any good.
Consider this if we only went after Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Our troops get hit with WMD’s Shall I remind you of the 50 or so quotes by high level Democrats touting the thread that Saddam poses to National security? These going back into the 90’s? If it had happened we would sure be hearing about how Bush screwed up by not covering our flank side and addressing the Iraq problem.
When the world can see that Iraq is a problem that deserves to be looked at as a humanitarian issue and sees the true picture of what the problem is. Instead of a Bush vs. the world and the Democrats on the side of the world issue as it has been framed. There never will be a good ending to this story.
I was an aircrew member (a navigator) in the Air Force 1964 through 1968, and I visited many military installations all over the world during that time. Every military installation was required to have pictures of the chain of command up through the President. It always intrigued me that McNamara’s picture was often absent, and in many instances was placed in some remote location far from the remaining pictures.
If you think Iraq is a humanitarian intervention/occupation, then why not put your words into action and get on over to help bring the peace that W has NO ability to bring about
Further, since the Dems didn’t have the opinion that mattered-only W’s counted-then your logic that the carnage destroying Iraq is the Dems fault is illogical and foolish in the extreme
So, since the US cannot spare the hundreds of thousands of troops now, just how do you propose to dramatically lower the violence in Iraq, and use logic please, not the naive wish fulfillment your post pushes
Having said that, the fact they’re already taking Rummy’s photo down suggests a certain amount of “good riddance†attitude in the Pentagon.
Comment by nitpicker — December 6, 2006 @ 2:38 pm
Or that they’re a sharper bunch than you lot.
This “news” was posted here on the same day that Gates’ 95-2 confirmation vote was.
Oy. No respect, I tell ya…
December 6th, 2006 at 12:44 pm” I keep your picture…
December 6th, 2006 at 1:25 pmupon the wall….
It hides a messy stain…
thats lying there…..”
(pop song lyric from the 70’s…)
I’m just glad to hear the good news that Robert Gates CHANGED HIS MIND! We AIN’T losin’ the war AFTER ALL!!! It only took a couple 30 minutes or so of lunch and waterboarding with Vice Preznit Cheney to get him to see things clearly. I was worried there for a minnit…
December 6th, 2006 at 1:46 pmHope Donald doesn’t let the door hit him on the butt on the way out.
December 6th, 2006 at 2:03 pm#3, yeah that was a slick one wasn’t it. Meanwhile every news headline in the world is sticking with “Gates says we’re not winning”. That HAD to be scripted.
December 6th, 2006 at 2:10 pmWhy do they even have the pictures up in the first place. Doesn’t that show some kind of “Fuhrer Complex”?
December 6th, 2006 at 2:21 pmAfter the big hit Pfizer took on its new heart medicine (the one which made patients worse, and or killed them), Rumpty’s stock portfolio ain’t looking so good.
December 6th, 2006 at 2:25 pmHe may have asked the Pentagon staffers to take the pictures down early so he can have some presents to hand out for the Holidays.
Pentagon staffers already replacing Rumsfeld’s picturefrom the walls of the Pentagon with pictures of Robert Gates, before Gates has even been confirmed, CNN reports.
…..but the stench still lingers.
December 6th, 2006 at 2:26 pmYeah, like that douche Rumsfeld needed any encouragement in that regard.
December 6th, 2006 at 2:36 pm#6 – Chain of Command photos are ubiquitous throughout the military. I’m not sure why, but that’s just the way it is.
Having said that, the fact they’re already taking Rummy’s photo down suggests a certain amount of “good riddance” attitude in the Pentagon.
December 6th, 2006 at 2:38 pmThey might glue those pictures over some cork and use them as dart boards.
December 6th, 2006 at 3:42 pmNotice how quickly Gates re-stated his early comment about not winning in Iraq – after lunch, he clarified it and said not winning doesn’t equate with losing.
Why do we always hear about this as if it were a game of Risk? Parlor games and sports events have winners and losers – in war, everyone is a loser. Who determines what constitutes a win? or a victory? The decider? The score-keeper of the bodies? What is the mission, the goal?
Every justification Bush&Co gave has been debunked and abandoned. He and his neocon administration should be the ones in Iraq – and if they die, well, their deaths would be numbers.
But I thought everybody loved him in the Pentagon
December 6th, 2006 at 3:43 pmLine up folks, everyone gets a new picture for their dartboard.
Don’t push, there’s plenty to go around…
December 6th, 2006 at 3:52 pmCarnival dogs consume the lines/Can’t see your face in my mind.
December 6th, 2006 at 3:59 pmJim Morrison
According to Webster Tarpley: “Filibuster Al Qaeda Founder Robert Gates”
December 6th, 2006 at 4:13 pmhttp://www.911blogger.com/node/4864
The media and Democrats have gone out of their way to define Iraq as a failure. Fact is we won in the battle with Iraq. Now we are fighting a war on terror.
“Mission Accomplished”
What we have here right now is a humanitarian effort for the benefit of the Iraqi people. The fact is being hidden that the other oil producing countries are strategically opposed to Iraqi competition on the oil market as a democracy. You have to look at motive them simply consider that a democratic Iraq is a threat to the current status quo. And don’t give this bologna about Iran being a democracy either.
Once you have established that simple fact it becomes obvious considering that Iran and Syria are assisting the Mahidi army that they are indeed on the side of evil.
The problem is the Democrats have been given total freedom to play armchair quarter back with impunity by the media. They are the spoilers in the War against Terrorism” once again look at who benefits and you have motive. The problem is with this strategy we all loose. I disagree with Bush caving in to their game in hopes that he will gain an ally in the war instead they will only take the knife that they have imbedded into Bush’s back and twist and slash for better effect.
The only way to level the playing field is if the media properly informs the public a properly informed public will do the right thing. This idea of posturing for a Vietnam scenario in order to wreak the benefit of preaching a false story of failure instead of the real story of betrayal does no one any good.
Consider this if we only went after Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Our troops get hit with WMD’s Shall I remind you of the 50 or so quotes by high level Democrats touting the thread that Saddam poses to National security? These going back into the 90’s? If it had happened we would sure be hearing about how Bush screwed up by not covering our flank side and addressing the Iraq problem.
When the world can see that Iraq is a problem that deserves to be looked at as a humanitarian issue and sees the true picture of what the problem is. Instead of a Bush vs. the world and the Democrats on the side of the world issue as it has been framed. There never will be a good ending to this story.
December 6th, 2006 at 5:47 pmGates is in, Rummy is out. Senate confirmed 95 to 2.
December 6th, 2006 at 6:06 pmJoeslogic is a little screwy.
December 6th, 2006 at 7:42 pmI was an aircrew member (a navigator) in the Air Force 1964 through 1968, and I visited many military installations all over the world during that time. Every military installation was required to have pictures of the chain of command up through the President. It always intrigued me that McNamara’s picture was often absent, and in many instances was placed in some remote location far from the remaining pictures.
December 7th, 2006 at 12:11 am#16
If you think Iraq is a humanitarian intervention/occupation, then why not put your words into action and get on over to help bring the peace that W has NO ability to bring about
Further, since the Dems didn’t have the opinion that mattered-only W’s counted-then your logic that the carnage destroying Iraq is the Dems fault is illogical and foolish in the extreme
So, since the US cannot spare the hundreds of thousands of troops now, just how do you propose to dramatically lower the violence in Iraq, and use logic please, not the naive wish fulfillment your post pushes
December 7th, 2006 at 1:27 amOr that they’re a sharper bunch than you lot.
December 7th, 2006 at 6:02 amThis “news” was posted here on the same day that Gates’ 95-2 confirmation vote was.
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