I got an idea. All who want to see an end to greenhouse gases stop driving your cars and stop using products that damage the environment. That would include the computers you are now using to read these words.
Like most other issues in the world, the issue of greenhouse gases isn't a black or white, yes or no question. Treating it as such guarantees lack of progress.
Your point is simplistic and does not help to solve anything dealing with CO2 emmissions. Yes, people have to take personal responsibility and try to be as carbon neutral as possible. This does not mean one must stop using everything that requires any form of energy to run... one should instead attempt to decrease the amount of power they use... try buying a fuel efficient car, and turning the lights off in a room not being used, and turning the tv off when not being used. The government should be more vigorous in promoting this kind of personal conservation.
Also, corporations must be regulated to help lower emissions. First off, penalize car companys for producing gas guzzlers. Also, there is technology for many industries to lower CO2 emissions during production, and they should be penalized by the government for not putting these CO2 emission lowering technologies into use.
Its not about halting CO2 emissions comletely, but reducing them as much as we can to a more managable and acceptable level.
People are all to quick to blame ONLY the government and not realize that we are part of the problem as well.
Comment by robert
Is it not fair to blame the government when the lead in the wrong direction by undermining existing environmental laws while failing to enact limits on the gases that do cause climate change? Yes we are all part of the problem but the ones in control are the biggest problem at the moment. That is worth blame being put on them.
Excuse me for reciting Jesus, but didn't he say something about throwing pearls towards swines? Same thing here with trying to make people understand what's going on.
Bush is great, he is a financial genius, a great political and military leader, to sum it up he is the greatest leader of all times. His administration is the most efficient, trueful and hardworking in the history of the USA. Republicans are the true protectors of christ and unborn life and they eliminate Aids through abstinence. What You hear is what You get with the republicans and they would never lie to You.
And if I would personally believe any of that I would ask to get admitted to a mental institution today.
And by the way, some left wing, progressive-communist-marxist-liberal science group announced today that the increased amount of CO2 is causing oceans to warm and hence distroying phytoplancton which is the base of the aquatic food chain. So no more fish for you republican morons. But as fish is brainfood anyways it would be a waste on you in the first place.
Einstein was right. Human stupidity is infinite.
"..ones in control are the biggest problem at the moment"
dlet, who is in control of YOU? I am in control of me and my buying dollars. WE control the economy. If people stop buying gas hogs, then they will be forced to make more alt. fuel vehicles. You kow the best way to punish a business? Stop buying their products.
While I strongly believe that Bush has behaved irresponsibly with respect to global warming - as he has to pretty much everything else - The linked report materially misrepresents the problem. It is the fastest growing developing nations that are increasing carbon output fastest: China, India, Indonesia, etc. Nor are Americans in a very good position to say those nations have no right to catch up to where we are. Except for selling nuclear power plants to India, Bush certainly has not done anything to make the situation better; but his administration has little to do with the source of the problem either.
Global warming is a complex problem that has no easy solutions. Finger pointing is not helpful.
Please spare me the simplicity. I don't have an electronic doggie collar that zaps me if I don't buy something unnecessary. I am well aware of this. By control (and I think you know what I mean) is the people that are in position to make major decisions and to follow through with them that would steer our country in the right direction.
Chimpy says he doesn't have authority to regulate carbon dioxide. His lawyers are arguing that to the Supreme Court right now.
Meanwhile, Chimpy believes he does have the authority to gut Federal laws limiting lead in the air. He is gutting the Clean Air Act without consulting with Congress.
Chimpy is hell-bent on destroying our great nation. He's wrecking our military in Iraq and he's wrecking the environment here at home.
I got an idea. All who want to see an end to greenhouse gases stop driving your cars and stop using products that damage the environment.
Robert, I'd love to stop driving. Unfortunately, in the area I live, Republican legislators have worked very hard over the past thirty years to block any rail transit construction that was proposed. We finally got one light rail line in a couple of years ago and ridership has been far greater than expected. In the first year, it exceeded projections by 58%. If the Republicans hadn't kept it from being built for all those years, I probably wouldn't have to be driving to and from work nowadays and our air would be a lot cleaner here. It really ticks them off that the public is demanding it now and that several more lines are in the works.
What is really scary is how fast and how high the carbon dioxide is going up. It is now twice as high as the highest historical natural fluctuation in carbon dioxide.
We are headed for a global meltdown and sooner than you think.
Shame on you, angie! What are you doing hanging out on the Georgia Log Cabin Republican website?! I assume you'll be going to confession tomorrow morning. And you won't be checking it out anymore, right? Right?
What ever possessed you to go look at a gay website? I thought you, of all people, would be able to resist the temptation. I'm so disappointed.
At least the war on the environment's going ok!
December 7th, 2006 at 2:03 pmCLINTON !!!
December 7th, 2006 at 2:10 pmWell, when you start out at insane and just get worse, shit like this happens.
When will we stop electing people that believe in superstitions?
December 7th, 2006 at 2:11 pmI got an idea. All who want to see an end to greenhouse gases stop driving your cars and stop using products that damage the environment. That would include the computers you are now using to read these words.
December 7th, 2006 at 2:17 pmRobert sez:
Yes...we see. A remarkably short-sighted idea.
Like most other issues in the world, the issue of greenhouse gases isn't a black or white, yes or no question. Treating it as such guarantees lack of progress.
December 7th, 2006 at 2:24 pmhttp://algorescarbonfootprint.com/
December 7th, 2006 at 2:29 pmAL Gore's carbon footprint
#4 robert
Your point is simplistic and does not help to solve anything dealing with CO2 emmissions. Yes, people have to take personal responsibility and try to be as carbon neutral as possible. This does not mean one must stop using everything that requires any form of energy to run... one should instead attempt to decrease the amount of power they use... try buying a fuel efficient car, and turning the lights off in a room not being used, and turning the tv off when not being used. The government should be more vigorous in promoting this kind of personal conservation.
December 7th, 2006 at 2:36 pmAlso, corporations must be regulated to help lower emissions. First off, penalize car companys for producing gas guzzlers. Also, there is technology for many industries to lower CO2 emissions during production, and they should be penalized by the government for not putting these CO2 emission lowering technologies into use.
Its not about halting CO2 emissions comletely, but reducing them as much as we can to a more managable and acceptable level.
AshenShard, Honestly, I agree with you completely. My coment was ment to sound as stupid as it did to see if someone like yourself would bite.
People are all to quick to blame ONLY the government and not realize that we are part of the problem as well.
December 7th, 2006 at 2:43 pmEverything, and I mean everything, that ne'er-do-well lamebrain touches turns to shit!
That monkey is really pouring it on.
December 7th, 2006 at 2:46 pmPeople are all to quick to blame ONLY the government and not realize that we are part of the problem as well.
Comment by robert
Is it not fair to blame the government when the lead in the wrong direction by undermining existing environmental laws while failing to enact limits on the gases that do cause climate change? Yes we are all part of the problem but the ones in control are the biggest problem at the moment. That is worth blame being put on them.
December 7th, 2006 at 2:56 pmExcuse me for reciting Jesus, but didn't he say something about throwing pearls towards swines? Same thing here with trying to make people understand what's going on.
December 7th, 2006 at 3:07 pmBush is great, he is a financial genius, a great political and military leader, to sum it up he is the greatest leader of all times. His administration is the most efficient, trueful and hardworking in the history of the USA. Republicans are the true protectors of christ and unborn life and they eliminate Aids through abstinence. What You hear is what You get with the republicans and they would never lie to You.
And if I would personally believe any of that I would ask to get admitted to a mental institution today.
And by the way, some left wing, progressive-communist-marxist-liberal science group announced today that the increased amount of CO2 is causing oceans to warm and hence distroying phytoplancton which is the base of the aquatic food chain. So no more fish for you republican morons. But as fish is brainfood anyways it would be a waste on you in the first place.
Einstein was right. Human stupidity is infinite.
Find out how much carbon you contribute to Global Warming at
http://www.climatecrisis.net/takeaction/
Then pledge that amount to support renewable sources.
Then challenge ten people on your email list to do the same.
It's easy, it's a doable first step, and it works a lot better than trying to get chimpy to stop his gaseous emissions.
December 7th, 2006 at 3:10 pm#12
4.8 is my number.
December 7th, 2006 at 3:18 pm"..ones in control are the biggest problem at the moment"
dlet, who is in control of YOU? I am in control of me and my buying dollars. WE control the economy. If people stop buying gas hogs, then they will be forced to make more alt. fuel vehicles. You kow the best way to punish a business? Stop buying their products.
December 7th, 2006 at 3:22 pmWhile I strongly believe that Bush has behaved irresponsibly with respect to global warming - as he has to pretty much everything else - The linked report materially misrepresents the problem. It is the fastest growing developing nations that are increasing carbon output fastest: China, India, Indonesia, etc. Nor are Americans in a very good position to say those nations have no right to catch up to where we are. Except for selling nuclear power plants to India, Bush certainly has not done anything to make the situation better; but his administration has little to do with the source of the problem either.
Global warming is a complex problem that has no easy solutions. Finger pointing is not helpful.
December 7th, 2006 at 3:36 pmdlet, who is in control of YOU?
Comment by robert
Please spare me the simplicity. I don't have an electronic doggie collar that zaps me if I don't buy something unnecessary. I am well aware of this. By control (and I think you know what I mean) is the people that are in position to make major decisions and to follow through with them that would steer our country in the right direction.
December 7th, 2006 at 3:37 pmChimpy says he doesn't have authority to regulate carbon dioxide. His lawyers are arguing that to the Supreme Court right now.
Meanwhile, Chimpy believes he does have the authority to gut Federal laws limiting lead in the air. He is gutting the Clean Air Act without consulting with Congress.
Chimpy is hell-bent on destroying our great nation. He's wrecking our military in Iraq and he's wrecking the environment here at home.
December 7th, 2006 at 4:14 pm#4 robert
I got an idea. All who want to see an end to greenhouse gases stop driving your cars and stop using products that damage the environment.
Robert, I'd love to stop driving. Unfortunately, in the area I live, Republican legislators have worked very hard over the past thirty years to block any rail transit construction that was proposed. We finally got one light rail line in a couple of years ago and ridership has been far greater than expected. In the first year, it exceeded projections by 58%. If the Republicans hadn't kept it from being built for all those years, I probably wouldn't have to be driving to and from work nowadays and our air would be a lot cleaner here. It really ticks them off that the public is demanding it now and that several more lines are in the works.
December 7th, 2006 at 4:32 pmWhat is really scary is how fast and how high the carbon dioxide is going up. It is now twice as high as the highest historical natural fluctuation in carbon dioxide.
We are headed for a global meltdown and sooner than you think.
December 7th, 2006 at 4:41 pm#20 RSLA
http://www.lcrga.com/archive/200010251159.shtml
Shame on you, angie! What are you doing hanging out on the Georgia Log Cabin Republican website?! I assume you'll be going to confession tomorrow morning. And you won't be checking it out anymore, right? Right?
What ever possessed you to go look at a gay website? I thought you, of all people, would be able to resist the temptation. I'm so disappointed.
December 7th, 2006 at 11:16 pm