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	<title>Comments on: FLASHBACK: McCain Predicted &#8216;Progress&#8217; In Iraq &#8216;A Year From Now&#8217; If &#8216;We Stay The Course&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Scrutiny Hooligans &#187; President 2008: McMaverick&#8217;s Bush Appeal</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/07/mccain-stay-the-course/comment-page-2/#comment-3005096</link>
		<dc:creator>Scrutiny Hooligans &#187; President 2008: McMaverick&#8217;s Bush Appeal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 23:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and the terribly smug expression, is Terry Nelson, new hatchetman for Saint McCain.  UPDATE: From Think Progress comes this quote from MILWRS McCain exactly one year ago, &#8220;â€œI think the situation on the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and the terribly smug expression, is Terry Nelson, new hatchetman for Saint McCain.  UPDATE: From Think Progress comes this quote from MILWRS McCain exactly one year ago, &#8220;â€œI think the situation on the [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3005096', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Testy Hooligans - If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your ch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Testy Hooligans - If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your ch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 02:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and the terribly smug expression, is Terry Nelson, new hatchetman for Saint McCain.  UPDATE: From Think Progress comes this quote from MILWRS McCain exactly one year ago, &#8220;â€œI think the situation on the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and the terribly smug expression, is Terry Nelson, new hatchetman for Saint McCain.  UPDATE: From Think Progress comes this quote from MILWRS McCain exactly one year ago, &#8220;â€œI think the situation on the [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2199745', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt Janovic</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/07/mccain-stay-the-course/comment-page-2/#comment-1250836</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Janovic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best-part of this nutjob got left behind in the Hanoi Hilton, what a whacko. He&#039;s in good-company, Hillary Clinton also feels the same, she&#039;s just being tight-lipped. Lieberman isn&#039;t the only hack who needs to go...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best-part of this nutjob got left behind in the Hanoi Hilton, what a whacko. He&#8217;s in good-company, Hillary Clinton also feels the same, she&#8217;s just being tight-lipped. Lieberman isn&#8217;t the only hack who needs to go&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1250836', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: jack</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/07/mccain-stay-the-course/comment-page-2/#comment-1250688</link>
		<dc:creator>jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain and Schwartzneggar are both cut from the same cloth. That is to say, they&#039;re both shameless opportunists. 

Actually, you could say that Hillary Clinton is also cut from the same cloth.

All of these politicians have happily abandoned their own previous platforms to pursue whatever they feel will get them the most votes. When the public turned on them after these decisions, they would scramble for a way to wriggle out of trouble.

Slimy, spineless mercenaries do not make for good leadership, and politicians like this should not be encouraged with money or votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain and Schwartzneggar are both cut from the same cloth. That is to say, they&#8217;re both shameless opportunists. </p>
<p>Actually, you could say that Hillary Clinton is also cut from the same cloth.</p>
<p>All of these politicians have happily abandoned their own previous platforms to pursue whatever they feel will get them the most votes. When the public turned on them after these decisions, they would scramble for a way to wriggle out of trouble.</p>
<p>Slimy, spineless mercenaries do not make for good leadership, and politicians like this should not be encouraged with money or votes.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1250688', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Cyber Joe</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/07/mccain-stay-the-course/comment-page-2/#comment-1248474</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyber Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 03:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about getting a second chance.  The Dems couldn&#039;t get their act together &#039;04 to defeat the last idiot, they get a second chance with McCain.  Talk about throwing away one&#039;s credibility.  How can anyone erode one&#039;s credibility to such a degree as McCain?  From a highly respected POW in Vietnam to compromising the Geneva Convention to eating crow over Iraq.  Didn&#039;t he learn anything from his experience?! He was wrong about Iraq a year ago and he&#039;s wrong now.  How many years and pointless loss of our service members will it take to get the point across?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about getting a second chance.  The Dems couldn&#8217;t get their act together &#8216;04 to defeat the last idiot, they get a second chance with McCain.  Talk about throwing away one&#8217;s credibility.  How can anyone erode one&#8217;s credibility to such a degree as McCain?  From a highly respected POW in Vietnam to compromising the Geneva Convention to eating crow over Iraq.  Didn&#8217;t he learn anything from his experience?! He was wrong about Iraq a year ago and he&#8217;s wrong now.  How many years and pointless loss of our service members will it take to get the point across?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1248474', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tennessean</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/07/mccain-stay-the-course/comment-page-2/#comment-1246083</link>
		<dc:creator>Tennessean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Americans voted for Democrats in &#039;06 and they will vote for Democrats in &#039;08, thanks in large part to George W. Bush, John McCain, and the Republican Party, which has run this country into the ground in six years, bankrupted our treasury and waged the &quot;biggest strategic blunder in US history.&quot; In light of the November election, Jane Smiley looks as credible as McCain--not so much! 

Here is what Americans are figuring out:

&lt;strong&gt;&quot;What is Conservatism and What is Wrong With It?&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;em&gt;

&quot;From the pharaohs of ancient Egypt to the self-regarding thugs of ancient Rome to the glorified warlords of medieval and absolutist Europe, in nearly every urbanized society throughout human history, there have been people who have tried to constitute themselves as an aristocracy. These people and their allies are the conservatives.

The tactics of conservatism vary widely by place and time. But the most central feature of conservatism is deference: a psychologically internalized attitude on the part of the common people that the aristocracy are better people than they are. Modern-day liberals often theorize that conservatives use &quot;social issues&quot; as a way to mask economic objectives, but this is almost backward: the true goal of conservatism is to establish an aristocracy, which is a social and psychological condition of inequality. Economic inequality and regressive taxation, while certainly welcomed by the aristocracy, are best understood as a means to their actual goal, which is simply to be aristocrats. More generally, it is crucial to conservatism that the people must literally love the order that dominates them. Of course this notion sounds bizarre to modern ears, but it is perfectly overt in the writings of leading conservative theorists such as Burke. Democracy, for them, is not about the mechanisms of voting and office-holding. In fact conservatives hold a wide variety of opinions about such secondary formal matters. For conservatives, rather, democracy is a psychological condition. People who believe that the aristocracy rightfully dominates society because of its intrinsic superiority are conservatives; democrats, by contrast, believe that they are of equal social worth. Conservatism is the antithesis of democracy. This has been true for thousands of years.&quot; &lt;/em&gt; 

http://polaris.gseis.ucla.edu/pagre/conservatism.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Americans voted for Democrats in &#8216;06 and they will vote for Democrats in &#8216;08, thanks in large part to George W. Bush, John McCain, and the Republican Party, which has run this country into the ground in six years, bankrupted our treasury and waged the &#8220;biggest strategic blunder in US history.&#8221; In light of the November election, Jane Smiley looks as credible as McCain&#8211;not so much! </p>
<p>Here is what Americans are figuring out:</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;What is Conservatism and What is Wrong With It?&#8221;</strong><br />
<em></p>
<p>&#8220;From the pharaohs of ancient Egypt to the self-regarding thugs of ancient Rome to the glorified warlords of medieval and absolutist Europe, in nearly every urbanized society throughout human history, there have been people who have tried to constitute themselves as an aristocracy. These people and their allies are the conservatives.</p>
<p>The tactics of conservatism vary widely by place and time. But the most central feature of conservatism is deference: a psychologically internalized attitude on the part of the common people that the aristocracy are better people than they are. Modern-day liberals often theorize that conservatives use &#8220;social issues&#8221; as a way to mask economic objectives, but this is almost backward: the true goal of conservatism is to establish an aristocracy, which is a social and psychological condition of inequality. Economic inequality and regressive taxation, while certainly welcomed by the aristocracy, are best understood as a means to their actual goal, which is simply to be aristocrats. More generally, it is crucial to conservatism that the people must literally love the order that dominates them. Of course this notion sounds bizarre to modern ears, but it is perfectly overt in the writings of leading conservative theorists such as Burke. Democracy, for them, is not about the mechanisms of voting and office-holding. In fact conservatives hold a wide variety of opinions about such secondary formal matters. For conservatives, rather, democracy is a psychological condition. People who believe that the aristocracy rightfully dominates society because of its intrinsic superiority are conservatives; democrats, by contrast, believe that they are of equal social worth. Conservatism is the antithesis of democracy. This has been true for thousands of years.&#8221; </em> </p>
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		<title>By: angie ga bulldog</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/07/mccain-stay-the-course/comment-page-2/#comment-1243831</link>
		<dc:creator>angie ga bulldog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 06:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why Americans Hate Democrats -- A Dialog 

Just because it is such a damned good piece of writing, the following is an exerpt from Jane Smiley&#039;s seminal piece in Slate Magazine:

The reason the Democrats have lost five of the last seven presidential elections is simple: A generation ago, the big capitalists, who have no morals, as we know, decided to make use of the religious right in their class war against the middle class and against the regulations that were protecting those whom they considered to be their rightful preyâ€”workers and consumers. The architects of this strategy knew perfectly well that they were exploiting, among other unsavory qualities, a long American habit of virulent racism, but they did it anyway, and we see the outcome nowâ€”Cheney is the capitalist arm and Bush is the religious arm. They know no boundaries or rules. They are predatory and resentful, amoral, avaricious, and arrogant. Lots of Americans like and admire them because lots of Americans, even those who don&#039;t share those same qualities, don&#039;t know which end is up. Can the Democrats appeal to such voters? Do they want to? The Republicans have sold their souls for power. Must everyone?

Progressives have only one course of action now: React quickly to every outrageâ€”red state types love to cheat and intimidate, so we have to assume the worst and call them on it every time. We have to give them more to think about than they can handleâ€”to always appeal to reason and common sense, and the law, even when they can&#039;t understand it and don&#039;t respond. They cannot be allowed to keep any secrets. Tens of millions of people didn&#039;t voteâ€”they are watching, too, and have to be shown that we are ready and willing to fight, and that the battle is worth fighting. And in addition, we have to remember that threats to democracy from the right always collapse. Whatever their short-term appeal, they are borne of hubris and hatred, and will destroy their purveyors in the end.

Although it originally appeared shortly after the last election, I think the article is so fundamentally honest and insightful that it bears dissemination until every American has read it. You can read the whole thing here.

http://www.slate.com/id/2109218/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Americans Hate Democrats &#8212; A Dialog </p>
<p>Just because it is such a damned good piece of writing, the following is an exerpt from Jane Smiley&#8217;s seminal piece in Slate Magazine:</p>
<p>The reason the Democrats have lost five of the last seven presidential elections is simple: A generation ago, the big capitalists, who have no morals, as we know, decided to make use of the religious right in their class war against the middle class and against the regulations that were protecting those whom they considered to be their rightful preyâ€”workers and consumers. The architects of this strategy knew perfectly well that they were exploiting, among other unsavory qualities, a long American habit of virulent racism, but they did it anyway, and we see the outcome nowâ€”Cheney is the capitalist arm and Bush is the religious arm. They know no boundaries or rules. They are predatory and resentful, amoral, avaricious, and arrogant. Lots of Americans like and admire them because lots of Americans, even those who don&#8217;t share those same qualities, don&#8217;t know which end is up. Can the Democrats appeal to such voters? Do they want to? The Republicans have sold their souls for power. Must everyone?</p>
<p>Progressives have only one course of action now: React quickly to every outrageâ€”red state types love to cheat and intimidate, so we have to assume the worst and call them on it every time. We have to give them more to think about than they can handleâ€”to always appeal to reason and common sense, and the law, even when they can&#8217;t understand it and don&#8217;t respond. They cannot be allowed to keep any secrets. Tens of millions of people didn&#8217;t voteâ€”they are watching, too, and have to be shown that we are ready and willing to fight, and that the battle is worth fighting. And in addition, we have to remember that threats to democracy from the right always collapse. Whatever their short-term appeal, they are borne of hubris and hatred, and will destroy their purveyors in the end.</p>
<p>Although it originally appeared shortly after the last election, I think the article is so fundamentally honest and insightful that it bears dissemination until every American has read it. You can read the whole thing here.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2109218/" rel="nofollow">http://www.slate.com/id/2109218/</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1243831', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: red turner</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/07/mccain-stay-the-course/comment-page-2/#comment-1243468</link>
		<dc:creator>red turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 04:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would chooes McCain over this shyster any day of the week!

http://www.lcrga.com/archive/200010251159.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would chooes McCain over this shyster any day of the week!</p>
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		<title>By: JPark</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/07/mccain-stay-the-course/comment-page-2/#comment-1243158</link>
		<dc:creator>JPark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 03:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#60 That is &quot;couldn&#039;t&quot;.  He sure would laugh when he came across the name &quot;Dick&quot; though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#60 That is &#8220;couldn&#8217;t&#8221;.  He sure would laugh when he came across the name &#8220;Dick&#8221; though.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1243158', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: rick s</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/07/mccain-stay-the-course/comment-page-2/#comment-1243139</link>
		<dc:creator>rick s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 03:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George W. wouldn&#039;t  read #52</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George W. wouldn&#8217;t  read #52<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1243139', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: rick s</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/07/mccain-stay-the-course/comment-page-2/#comment-1243134</link>
		<dc:creator>rick s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 03:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain is a lunatic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain is a lunatic.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1243134', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JPark</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/07/mccain-stay-the-course/comment-page-2/#comment-1243036</link>
		<dc:creator>JPark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 03:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#54 Come on TtT, Nathan Bedford Forrest had a talent.  Unlike the scumbag you are talking to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#54 Come on TtT, Nathan Bedford Forrest had a talent.  Unlike the scumbag you are talking to.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1243036', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Joefriday</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/07/mccain-stay-the-course/comment-page-2/#comment-1242361</link>
		<dc:creator>Joefriday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 00:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make that -hand slide down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make that -hand slide down.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1242361', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Joefriday</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/07/mccain-stay-the-course/comment-page-2/#comment-1242356</link>
		<dc:creator>Joefriday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 00:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Jebus Christ that picture makes me want to puke-and to think he may actually win. Damn ,I wish there was a god to punish these people. Crap his left hand is about to slide up and grap morons walnuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Jebus Christ that picture makes me want to puke-and to think he may actually win. Damn ,I wish there was a god to punish these people. Crap his left hand is about to slide up and grap morons walnuts.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1242356', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: TerrytheTurtle</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/07/mccain-stay-the-course/comment-page-2/#comment-1241999</link>
		<dc:creator>TerrytheTurtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 23:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Nathan Bedford Forrest, how about taking your cut-and-paste somewhere else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Nathan Bedford Forrest, how about taking your cut-and-paste somewhere else?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1241999', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: TerrytheTurtle</title>
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		<dc:creator>TerrytheTurtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 23:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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Stay the course, freedom&#039;s on the march, now watch this wedgie.</description>
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		<title>By: south`s gonna do it again</title>
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		<dc:creator>south`s gonna do it again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 22:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is one other reason I will NEVER vote for you yanks.Putting out swill like this.I suppose you all believe this crap too?Tha`s right jump on that bandwagon of misguided minstrels.You`re time is coming.

Hence,my name.Good day. 


Let&#039;s Ditch Dixie 
The case for Northern secession. 
By Mark Strauss
Posted Wednesday, March 14, 2001, at 3:00 AM ET 


Call it the rebel yell heard &#039;round the world. Last year, under the watchful eyes of God and the rheumy stare of the last surviving, 93-year-old Confederate war widow, some 2,500 sons and daughters of Dixie gathered in Montgomery, Ala., to issue a Declaration of Southern Cultural Independence from a nation &quot;violent and profane, coarse and rude, cynical and deviant.&quot;

The rally was staged by the League of the South, an organization that fondly remembers the Confederacy as a golden age (with the awkward exception of slavery) and that seeks to liberate the Southern people from the yoke of &quot;a tyrannous central government&quot; unrestrained by the Constitution. Most people dismiss League members as either harmless eccentrics or closet white supremacists (they&#039;re probably a little of both), but their views resonate in circles well beyond the good ol&#039; boys who don Confederate Gray on weekends to re-enact the Battle of Antietam and pretend-kill some Yankees. You hear echoes of Southern nationalism whenever Mississippi invokes &quot;states&#039; rights&quot; to justify flying the Confederate flag over their capitols; or when the GOP&#039;s honorary Dixie chick Gale Norton mourns the defeat of the South saying that &quot;we lost too much&quot;; or when John Ashcroft praises Southern Partisan magazine for helping &quot;set the record straight&quot; on the War Between the States.

This re-emergence of Confederate pride is merely the symptom of a much deeper problem: The North and South can no longer claim to be one nation. If you want proof, just look at the electoral map from the last presidential election. Or consider that, although Texas Gov. George W. Bush lost the U.S. popular vote by 500,000, he won the old Confederacy by a resounding 3.1 million votes. Meanwhile, the cultural gap that pits NASCAR fans against PBS viewers continues to widen. Ted Turner all but confirmed the balkanization of America when he established a cable network exclusively for the citizens of Dixie, serving up finger-lickin&#039; TV fare that includes Andy Griffith reruns, the best of World Championship Wrestling, CNN South, and slapstick movies such as Dumb and Dumber (which, according to the president of &quot;Turner South,&quot; gets unusually high ratings regionally).

The United States doesn&#039;t have to refight the Civil War to set matters right. Rather, North and South should simply follow the example of the Czech Republic and Slovakia: Shake hands, says it&#039;s been real, and go their separate ways. And if the South isn&#039;t inclined to leave anytime soon, then we should show them the door by seceding unilaterally. Because for all the hue and cry of the South being a conquered people, it is the North that increasingly finds itself under the dominion of the Confederacy. The White House has been occupied by a Southerner for 17 of the last 37 years. And the Confederacy&#039;s foot-in-the-door of the Oval Office will become even more pronounced in the next century: The latest census allowed Dixie to pick up six additional Electoral College votes (thanks, in part, to the migration of warmth-seeking Northerners in numbers sufficient to swell the population of the South, yet insufficient to shift its political landscape). Had Al Gore won the same states in 1972 as he did in 2000, he would have trumped Bush with an electoral vote margin of 278 to 260. In 1984, he still would have won by 271 to 267. But in 2000, even with Electoral College juggernauts such as New York, Pennsylvania, and California in his corner, Gore couldn&#039;t win the White House without the support of the old Confederacy.

As the electoral center of gravity has shifted in the United States, so too have the orientations of the two major political parties. The Democrats lost their historic claim to the &quot;Solid South&quot; when the party fractured over the New Deal and the civil rights movement. With Dixie up for grabs, the GOP went carpetbagging for electoral votesâ€”Barry Goldwater paved the way when he won the loyalty of Southern delegates at the 1964 Republican convention through his championship of states&#039; rights and his opposition to the civil rights bill. Every victorious Republican candidate since then has dished out exactly what Southern voters want to hear: Nixon attacked busing and racial quotas; Reagan embraced the Christian Right while his attorney general, Ed Meese, charged that the 1965 Voting Rights Act discriminated against the South; and Massachusetts-born George Bush Sr. surrounded himself with country and western stars and added a Willie Horton plank to his platform. Since Republicans won the House in 1994, Southerners have dominated the congressional leadership. Today, Republicans maintain their bare voting majority in the evenly split Senate by virtue of the fact that there are four more Republicans from Dixie than Democrats.

The Dixification of the &quot;Party of Lincoln&quot; would be tolerable if the North had a political party of its own. But increasingly it doesn&#039;t; hence the rise of Ralph Nader, who expressed the pent-up frustration among liberals and populists who no longer feel comfortable in a Democratic Party that speaks with a down-home drawl. In all the presidential elections between 1980 and 1992, the Democrats succeeded in winning only one Confederate state. Clinton&#039;s path to victory was the trashing of Sister Soulja as he and other Southern Democrats weaned their party away from Northern special interests (aka &quot;the party base&quot;) such as environmentalists, organized labor, African-Americans, consumer advocates, Latinos, and gays. Gore lost the election (and even his home state, which he loyally represented for 16 years) because he went off message and dared to espouse progressive, populist themes on government, gun control, and the environment. Shut out of all branches of government, some party leaders are once again pushing a Southern strategy to retake the White House and Congress, all but guaranteeing that the Democratic Party will continue whistling Dixie.

Economically and socially, secession will be painless for the North. The South is a gangrenous limb that should have been lopped off decades ago. More people live below the poverty line in the old Confederacy than in the Northeast and Midwest combined. You are three times more likely to be murdered in parts of Dixie than anywhere in New England, despite a feverish devotion to &quot;law-and-order&quot; that has made eight Southern states home to 90 percent of all recent U.S. executions. The South has the highest infant-mortality rate and the highest incidences of sexually transmitted diseases, while it lags behind the rest of the country in terms of test scores and opportunities for women. The Confederate states rail against the tyranny of big government, yet they are the largest recipients of federal tax dollars. They steal business away from the North the same way that developing countries worldwide have always attracted foreign direct investment: through low wages and anti-union laws. The flow of guns into America&#039;s Northern cities stems largely from Southern states. The tobacco grown by ol&#039; Dixie kills nearly a half-million Americans each year.

Imagine then, for just a moment, the North as its own nation. Trent Lott and Dick Armey would be foreigners. We would no longer be subjected to round-the-clock TV commercials for Dale Earnhardt commemorative plates. If you were to expel all Southerners from Congress (both parties, mind you) the new liberal majority would be able to pass tougher gun laws and legislation barring discrimination against gays and lesbians immediately. With the South banished from the Union, we could begin to correct the most objectionable aspects of Southern behavior with the same tools we use to engage countries such as China: by making trade and continued foreign aid contingent upon sincere efforts to clean up the environment and improve human rights. We could implement &quot;Plan South Carolina&quot; to convince tobacco growers to develop alternative crops. Northern observers could ensure democracy in Florida polling places. Peace Corps volunteers could teach the necessary skills that would allow Southerners to pull themselves out of poverty and illiteracy while simultaneously promoting a better understanding of American values.

In fact, the only obvious downside is that the South would almost certainly insist on keeping the 3,150 nuclear warheads that are scattered throughout Georgia, Texas, Louisiana, and Virginia. Maybe we could strike a deal to get those nukes back, the same way Russia did with Ukraine after the Soviet Union broke up. If not, then perhaps national missile defense might not be such a bad idea after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is one other reason I will NEVER vote for you yanks.Putting out swill like this.I suppose you all believe this crap too?Tha`s right jump on that bandwagon of misguided minstrels.You`re time is coming.</p>
<p>Hence,my name.Good day. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s Ditch Dixie<br />
The case for Northern secession.<br />
By Mark Strauss<br />
Posted Wednesday, March 14, 2001, at 3:00 AM ET </p>
<p>Call it the rebel yell heard &#8217;round the world. Last year, under the watchful eyes of God and the rheumy stare of the last surviving, 93-year-old Confederate war widow, some 2,500 sons and daughters of Dixie gathered in Montgomery, Ala., to issue a Declaration of Southern Cultural Independence from a nation &#8220;violent and profane, coarse and rude, cynical and deviant.&#8221;</p>
<p>The rally was staged by the League of the South, an organization that fondly remembers the Confederacy as a golden age (with the awkward exception of slavery) and that seeks to liberate the Southern people from the yoke of &#8220;a tyrannous central government&#8221; unrestrained by the Constitution. Most people dismiss League members as either harmless eccentrics or closet white supremacists (they&#8217;re probably a little of both), but their views resonate in circles well beyond the good ol&#8217; boys who don Confederate Gray on weekends to re-enact the Battle of Antietam and pretend-kill some Yankees. You hear echoes of Southern nationalism whenever Mississippi invokes &#8220;states&#8217; rights&#8221; to justify flying the Confederate flag over their capitols; or when the GOP&#8217;s honorary Dixie chick Gale Norton mourns the defeat of the South saying that &#8220;we lost too much&#8221;; or when John Ashcroft praises Southern Partisan magazine for helping &#8220;set the record straight&#8221; on the War Between the States.</p>
<p>This re-emergence of Confederate pride is merely the symptom of a much deeper problem: The North and South can no longer claim to be one nation. If you want proof, just look at the electoral map from the last presidential election. Or consider that, although Texas Gov. George W. Bush lost the U.S. popular vote by 500,000, he won the old Confederacy by a resounding 3.1 million votes. Meanwhile, the cultural gap that pits NASCAR fans against PBS viewers continues to widen. Ted Turner all but confirmed the balkanization of America when he established a cable network exclusively for the citizens of Dixie, serving up finger-lickin&#8217; TV fare that includes Andy Griffith reruns, the best of World Championship Wrestling, CNN South, and slapstick movies such as Dumb and Dumber (which, according to the president of &#8220;Turner South,&#8221; gets unusually high ratings regionally).</p>
<p>The United States doesn&#8217;t have to refight the Civil War to set matters right. Rather, North and South should simply follow the example of the Czech Republic and Slovakia: Shake hands, says it&#8217;s been real, and go their separate ways. And if the South isn&#8217;t inclined to leave anytime soon, then we should show them the door by seceding unilaterally. Because for all the hue and cry of the South being a conquered people, it is the North that increasingly finds itself under the dominion of the Confederacy. The White House has been occupied by a Southerner for 17 of the last 37 years. And the Confederacy&#8217;s foot-in-the-door of the Oval Office will become even more pronounced in the next century: The latest census allowed Dixie to pick up six additional Electoral College votes (thanks, in part, to the migration of warmth-seeking Northerners in numbers sufficient to swell the population of the South, yet insufficient to shift its political landscape). Had Al Gore won the same states in 1972 as he did in 2000, he would have trumped Bush with an electoral vote margin of 278 to 260. In 1984, he still would have won by 271 to 267. But in 2000, even with Electoral College juggernauts such as New York, Pennsylvania, and California in his corner, Gore couldn&#8217;t win the White House without the support of the old Confederacy.</p>
<p>As the electoral center of gravity has shifted in the United States, so too have the orientations of the two major political parties. The Democrats lost their historic claim to the &#8220;Solid South&#8221; when the party fractured over the New Deal and the civil rights movement. With Dixie up for grabs, the GOP went carpetbagging for electoral votesâ€”Barry Goldwater paved the way when he won the loyalty of Southern delegates at the 1964 Republican convention through his championship of states&#8217; rights and his opposition to the civil rights bill. Every victorious Republican candidate since then has dished out exactly what Southern voters want to hear: Nixon attacked busing and racial quotas; Reagan embraced the Christian Right while his attorney general, Ed Meese, charged that the 1965 Voting Rights Act discriminated against the South; and Massachusetts-born George Bush Sr. surrounded himself with country and western stars and added a Willie Horton plank to his platform. Since Republicans won the House in 1994, Southerners have dominated the congressional leadership. Today, Republicans maintain their bare voting majority in the evenly split Senate by virtue of the fact that there are four more Republicans from Dixie than Democrats.</p>
<p>The Dixification of the &#8220;Party of Lincoln&#8221; would be tolerable if the North had a political party of its own. But increasingly it doesn&#8217;t; hence the rise of Ralph Nader, who expressed the pent-up frustration among liberals and populists who no longer feel comfortable in a Democratic Party that speaks with a down-home drawl. In all the presidential elections between 1980 and 1992, the Democrats succeeded in winning only one Confederate state. Clinton&#8217;s path to victory was the trashing of Sister Soulja as he and other Southern Democrats weaned their party away from Northern special interests (aka &#8220;the party base&#8221;) such as environmentalists, organized labor, African-Americans, consumer advocates, Latinos, and gays. Gore lost the election (and even his home state, which he loyally represented for 16 years) because he went off message and dared to espouse progressive, populist themes on government, gun control, and the environment. Shut out of all branches of government, some party leaders are once again pushing a Southern strategy to retake the White House and Congress, all but guaranteeing that the Democratic Party will continue whistling Dixie.</p>
<p>Economically and socially, secession will be painless for the North. The South is a gangrenous limb that should have been lopped off decades ago. More people live below the poverty line in the old Confederacy than in the Northeast and Midwest combined. You are three times more likely to be murdered in parts of Dixie than anywhere in New England, despite a feverish devotion to &#8220;law-and-order&#8221; that has made eight Southern states home to 90 percent of all recent U.S. executions. The South has the highest infant-mortality rate and the highest incidences of sexually transmitted diseases, while it lags behind the rest of the country in terms of test scores and opportunities for women. The Confederate states rail against the tyranny of big government, yet they are the largest recipients of federal tax dollars. They steal business away from the North the same way that developing countries worldwide have always attracted foreign direct investment: through low wages and anti-union laws. The flow of guns into America&#8217;s Northern cities stems largely from Southern states. The tobacco grown by ol&#8217; Dixie kills nearly a half-million Americans each year.</p>
<p>Imagine then, for just a moment, the North as its own nation. Trent Lott and Dick Armey would be foreigners. We would no longer be subjected to round-the-clock TV commercials for Dale Earnhardt commemorative plates. If you were to expel all Southerners from Congress (both parties, mind you) the new liberal majority would be able to pass tougher gun laws and legislation barring discrimination against gays and lesbians immediately. With the South banished from the Union, we could begin to correct the most objectionable aspects of Southern behavior with the same tools we use to engage countries such as China: by making trade and continued foreign aid contingent upon sincere efforts to clean up the environment and improve human rights. We could implement &#8220;Plan South Carolina&#8221; to convince tobacco growers to develop alternative crops. Northern observers could ensure democracy in Florida polling places. Peace Corps volunteers could teach the necessary skills that would allow Southerners to pull themselves out of poverty and illiteracy while simultaneously promoting a better understanding of American values.</p>
<p>In fact, the only obvious downside is that the South would almost certainly insist on keeping the 3,150 nuclear warheads that are scattered throughout Georgia, Texas, Louisiana, and Virginia. Maybe we could strike a deal to get those nukes back, the same way Russia did with Ukraine after the Soviet Union broke up. If not, then perhaps national missile defense might not be such a bad idea after all.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1241971', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 22:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC)</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 22:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Wait, I thought McCain committed suicide.. 

Comment by InsurgentC &lt;/em&gt;

Only politically - and often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Wait, I thought McCain committed suicide.. </p>
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<p>Only politically &#8211; and often.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1241860', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mr JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>mr JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain Hires Man Behind Racist Harold Ford Ads As His Campaign Manager... 

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2006/12/mccain_moves_forward.html</description>
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