O’Reilly: Annan Should Have Thanked U.S. For Spending ‘Billions To Keep Him In Fancy Suits’
O’Reilly: Annan Should Have Thanked U.S. For Spending ‘Billions To Keep Him In Fancy Suits’
Last night, Fox News host Bill O’Reilly attacked U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan’s farewell speech at the Truman Library in Missouri. O’Reilly said that instead of offering any criticism of the Bush administration, Annan should have talked about “why the United States is a really noble country,” how “it tried to do some good in Iraq,” and thanked the United States for spending billions of dollars to keep him “in fancy suits and expense account dinners and lunches.”
Watch it:
Annan’s speech wasn’t without praise for the United States. He thanked the United States for offering the “world an example of a democracy in which everyone, including the most powerful, is subject to legal restraint,” and noted that it has “historically been in the vanguard of the global human rights movement.” But he also called on the country to offer “far-sighted American leadership.”
Intolerance for any criticism is what caused many of the problems in Iraq.
Transcript:
BILL O’REILLY: Why doesn’t he get up and say let me tell you why the United States is a really noble country and it tried to do some good in Iraq and it’s decimated al Qaeda and they can’t kill nearly as many people as they used to be able to kill? Why don’t we say something good about the USA that spent billions of dollars to keep Annan in fancy suits and expense account dinners and lunches?
KIRSTEN POWERS: Well, because he doesn’t think that and a lot of people don’t think that, so I think that his criticism —
O’REILLY: He doesn’t think that? Despite the overwhelming evidence it’s true.
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And later, maybe we can get Maliki over there in the Eye Rak to thank us for sendin’ so many of his people into the sweet, comforting arms of our Savior Jesus to rock for eternity in Heaven above… providin’ they converted to Christianity BEFORE the car bomb detonated.
December 12th, 2006 at 10:47 amO’REILLY: He doesn’t think that? Despite the overwhelming evidence it’s true.
Overwhelming evidence = BO thinks it.
Bill O’Reilly! Today’s Worst Person in the World!!!
December 12th, 2006 at 10:48 amBill just thinks that people should act like patsies to those that they get money from. Kind of like he does. People without spines or morals always hate those that do.
December 12th, 2006 at 10:51 amKofi Annnnan has been such an effective Secretary General of the UN. His self-effacing and gentle tone reflects perfectly the thoughtful lethargic response of the UN to Darfur, etc. And the way Kofi got to the bottom of the UN/Oil for Food scandal! (I suppose the way Kofi and Co. were in bed with Saddam, it’s understandable he would be upset when Saddam was booted. When his son, Kojoey and other erstwhile “diplocrooks†had their shennanigans exposed, the Secretary General did everything in his power NOT to cooperate. ) It’s hard to keep track of all the UN successes when there haven’t been many…..
Goood riddance, Kofi….now would you PLEASE take the rest of the UN with you…..
December 12th, 2006 at 10:52 amJust when you think Bill-O has sunk as low as a human being can get, he lowers the bar yet again.
Remind me to watch Countdown tonight….I’m sure Keith will have something to say about this…
December 12th, 2006 at 10:53 amO’Reilly’s mouth is a cesspool of garbage > always has been and always will be > shame on him!
December 12th, 2006 at 10:54 amI sense code words. Black guy in fancy suit? Next thing they want is a biiiig car.
December 12th, 2006 at 10:56 amMighty Haggette,
SPEAKER PELOSI!!
Try not to be frightened…
December 12th, 2006 at 10:57 am#2 Zooey
Now and forever :-p
And I love the we destroyed al qaeda talking point … yeah, as effectively as we destroyed the Taliban.
For Bill O’really and his ilk, its America or die. For some reason they cannot see any in between … but I guess thats the world to those who don’t like to think.
Though, if Bill actually started talking in terms of reality and made sense, then i think at least half our heads would explode … luckily, I don’t think thats something we’ll ever have to worry about.
December 12th, 2006 at 10:57 amYeah, the lack of response to the Darfur crisis is all Annans fault MA…
He has been at the forefront telling everyone something needs to be done. The thing is, he doesn’t have the power to say that the UN is going to do it, that is up to the security council … China and the US to some extent have oil interests in the Sudan, so they aren’t going to do anything that may disrupt the flow
The problem in the UN are the permanent members on the security council, and since we are one of those members, we are part of the problem.
BTW, if we left the UN, we’d be under sanctions real quick. So staying with the UN is in our interests.
December 12th, 2006 at 11:01 amI wish you would please ignore what comes out of Mr. Just-Shut-Up’s mouth. Yes, I’m painfully aware of his ratings, but why you advertize this blow hard’s idiotic rants is beyond me.
December 12th, 2006 at 11:03 amUsing O’Reilly “logic” you shouldn’t criticise and fail a student for failing a test. You should praise them for the few questions they got right, completely ignore the mistakes and never mention them again (certainly never tell the child to study harder or try and give them the correct answers because that makes you an elitist) and finally, pass the student anyway because their intentions were to pass the test and that is noble.
December 12th, 2006 at 11:08 am#11 ScrewBush
The point is to educate those of us what many may agree with, no matter how stupid or unreasonable. To let O’really go on speaking his falsehoods to an audience that will receive it as fact is dangerous. Not only do you end up with a large block of miseducated citizens but the door is open for unopposed acceptance of a dictator.
December 12th, 2006 at 11:12 amAlso, pointing out his bull seems to piss off O’really and send him off his rocker, which is often fun to watch or read about. :-p
code words indeed.
December 12th, 2006 at 11:12 am#7 — Yup! And a WHITE woman!
December 12th, 2006 at 11:13 amArrogant…as usual….
December 12th, 2006 at 11:16 am#8 - “Mighty Haggette,SPEAKER PELOSI!! Try not to be frightened… ”
Comment by Zooey
*****Dear Zoooette - Afraid of a benign, gentle, grandmother from NoCal? Hardly. The Speakette will be a VERY good thing for conservatives…..
Now of course, I wouldn’t want you to discuss the UN and their ineffective role in the world……that might be a bit tooo confusing for you.
December 12th, 2006 at 11:16 ami love kofi annan, i dont know if he could have been as effective as he can be. i really think he should have use his legitimacy as one of the key leaders of the world and be more outspoken. ie speak truth lauder.
i am one of the least violent person that i know, but after hearing oreilly, i want to punch him on the face…..
December 12th, 2006 at 11:19 am17. Too bad that conservatives aren’t a good thing for conservatives. They have this nasty habit of shooting themselves in the foot (or someone else’s face), not sure if to stay in the closet or hunt them down, keep forgetting not to offer medical advice via video, still believe “The math” instead of real math, place puppets in powerful positions even though they don’t have a clue on how to run the department, and complain about a 5 day work week.
Yeah you have nothing to worry about from the next Speaker, it’s your own that will keep on f#cking it up for you.
December 12th, 2006 at 11:26 amBILL O’REILLY: Why doesn’t he get up and say let me tell you why the United States is a really noble country and it tried to do some good in Iraq and it’s decimated al Qaeda and they can’t kill nearly as many people as they used to be able to kill?
He doesn’t because he doesn’t want to be laughed at. Why does Bill want Kofi to lie?
December 12th, 2006 at 11:28 am“Goood riddance, Kofi….now would you PLEASE take the rest of the UN with you…”
Comment by mighty aphrodite — December 12, 2006 @ 10:52 am
So, ignoring the international community is the way we should operate? Isn’t that how WW1 and WWII came about? I’m surprized that you would advocate a “stick our heads in the sand” approach.
How about we give the UN some teeth, and remove the veto ability of the permenant members of the Security Council. If you were up on your history, it’s the US that has exercised our veto most often when we were cry-babies and didn’t like what everyone else was going to do.
US: Wahh! BMW! (B!^@#, MOAN & WAIL!) We don’t want to hold anyone or ourselves accountable so we’re going to veto it! Wahhh!!!!!!!!
December 12th, 2006 at 11:33 amSomeone needs to tell O’Really that a “truly noble country” doesn’t need its ass kissed by anyone at any time for any reason. It should know it’s noble and leave the gobs of public praise for whiny petty jackasses who need to constantly be told they’re great because they’re trying to compensate for a small pe…oooooooohhhhhhhh…
Hey, Bill, you’re great! Keep it up! Literally!
December 12th, 2006 at 11:41 amDemocrat Solier, ignoring the international community is the exactly the way BushCo. does operate. That’s how the war in Iraq came about. I’m not all surprised that trolls would advocate a “stick our heads in the sand†approach, since the neocons have made an art of sticking their heads in other places where reality is ignored. Some of our trolls are just so much more practiced at the art.
December 12th, 2006 at 11:42 amArmani is only a couple of grand for a suit, what gives?
December 12th, 2006 at 11:45 amslappy magoo, O’Reilly can’t imagine what a “truly noble country†would do anymore than he can imagine what a “truly noble person” would do. Just as HE needs his ass kissed by someone all the time, that is what he thinks his COUNTRY needs. He has already admitted, in a seemingly proud fashion, that he is indeed petty and, by extension, he would be proud to live in a petty country. Maybe he should move to one.
December 12th, 2006 at 11:47 amThat shure looks like a suit O’reilly is wearing. Real fancy too.
That’s what these jackasses have to talk about. That’s how feeble.
Nancy Pelosi’s wears clothes.
Obama without a tie.
Kofi wears a suit.
“henny penny the sky is falling” - D. Rumsfeld
What weak and worthless fools these Republicans are.
December 12th, 2006 at 11:50 am#24 - Democrat Solier, ignoring the international community is the exactly the way BushCo. does operate. That’s how the war in Iraq came about….” - Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC)
*****Dear Plc - The US does not ignore the international community - but perhaps we should do more for our friends and less for our foes. (I understand the idea of making friends out of enemies, but sometimes the idea does not work and must be abandoned.) We have generously tried to help many people and countries and it never seems to be enough for the malcontents.
And the reason we got into war in Iraq HAS NOTHING to do with ignoring the international community. It had EVERYTHING to do with the perception of numerous World Leaders that Saddam had WMD’s - including former President Clinton and leading Dems. It had everything to do with Saddam’s refusal to comply with the cease fire agreement of 1991. Get your facts straight - you might appear a tad more bright……
Later….
December 12th, 2006 at 11:53 amWhy is this fool still free? He should be locked up with the rest of the lunatics in Crawford….Although he is good for a daily laugh (puke..)….
What an ass…
December 12th, 2006 at 11:54 amI wouldn’t want you to discuss the UN and their ineffective role in the world……
Comment by mighty aphrodite
The UN was created by the countries that won the WWII, supposedly as an attempt to balance world affairs. US has vetoed like 70+ UN resolutions, thats ineffective, yeah, I agree. The UN didnt stop the invasion of Panama by the US, which violated every international law, thats ineffective; the UN condemned US intervention in Nicaragua, US decided to ignore it. Thats ineffective. Shhhh, little man. You are the worst informed person in this blog. Congrats.
As our productivity per capita is off the charts compared with other countries, we are in a much better position than you seem to imagine…..
Comment by mighty aphrodite
Tell that to China.
December 12th, 2006 at 11:59 am19. And I’m sure the rest of the world will still gladly sell their goods and services to us. And we’d gladly take them. Until we couldn’t afford them any more because our goods and services weren’t being bought. And when the tab comes up for the missadventures of Bush we would fold.
Your Brilliant (not).
December 12th, 2006 at 11:59 amO’liely is a non-story all around.
December 12th, 2006 at 12:03 pmBlow’Reilly adds further proof that he is an idiot. Keep piling on, Bill.
December 12th, 2006 at 12:04 pm29. Ol GW himself said if he knew then what he knew now about WMD’s in Iraq and the lack there of, he would still do the same thing. So it does not have EVERYTHING to do with WMD’s because Ol’ GW said so. Unless he’s lying.
And at some point in everybody’s life there comes a time when an idea (no matter how strongly believed at first) proves to be wrong. Whether you and Ol GW will admit it or not, the international community was right about not getting into Iraq.
By the way, you would seem a smidgen more competent if you wouldn’t refer it as a War. It has never been declared. That is a fact.
December 12th, 2006 at 12:05 pmIt grieves me that O’Reilly has an audience, but then I feel the same way about Ashlee Simpson. Taste is personal, & critical thinking is not necessarily fun.
December 12th, 2006 at 12:10 pmIs it too late to lash out this comment?
December 12th, 2006 at 12:12 pmNow of course, I wouldn’t want you to discuss the UN and their ineffective role in the world……that might be a bit tooo confusing for you.
Comment by mighty aphrodite
We arrive at the really scary part! Poor Hagette, you can leave on the night light if you need to… Mr Hag never comes around anymore, so you won’t bother him. Need a binkie?
December 12th, 2006 at 12:16 pmO’Reilly really is in favour of nobility. Its kind of the whole point to the Neocons, like Aphro. They want lots and lots of nobility. Its why they have outspent all prior comers and refused to raise taxes, why they have gotten America into 2 unwinnable wars, why they support a man whose only real claim to any sort of respect is that his father is rich and a former president.
They want a birth-right based class to rule over the poor, who without education, medication or information, will always remain poor.
Thing is, nobility is kind of the antithesis to what America is about.
America is about the peasants, who being unafraid of criticism, are willing to learn from their mistakes and move on rather then shooting the messenger.
America is about peasants who, rather then being snobs who feel all other people are beneath them, say “We the people.”
America is all about peasants who however rude or crass they may be, respect the truth because ultimately the world isn’t some fairy tale where if you pretend bad things don’t happen they won’t happen to you.
America is all about peasants, who when given honest information and a chance, can rise to rule the world.
And there is nothing noble about any of that.
December 12th, 2006 at 12:17 pmThat’s a very racist an clasist remark by O’Reilly, of course, his audience loves him for that
December 12th, 2006 at 12:17 pmWe know the truth when we read the history. Leaders………pls understand the KARMA first.
December 12th, 2006 at 12:18 pmKofi can now take the rap for the UN troops raping children under his watch.
Or maybe they should start with Oil For Food.
You know, attrocities committed on his watch.
December 12th, 2006 at 12:27 pmYou know, attrocities committed on his watch.
Comment by robert
Funny how robert chooses to denounce atrocities from people who are NOT in his chain of command. What a tool.
December 12th, 2006 at 12:31 pmthe world economy may suffer for a bit if they sanctioned the US, but then they would start to develop more and more rather than depending on the one super power … and then where would we be?
December 12th, 2006 at 12:33 pmAnd remember most of the products we get are from out of the country anyway … so the ones who would hurt the most would be us. Europes economy is already stronger, China is surging … yeah, we are really holding up the world economy, more like they are holding us up.
Bill O’Falafel has pissed off
“…the United States is a really noble country…”
Maybe because after almost seven years of fascist government trampelling on the Constitution, four of which were spent in useless war, whatever nobility was left is now gone.
“…it tried to do some good in Iraq…”
The only good Shrub tried to do was to make sure that his cronies lined their pockets with billions in taxpayer money. The goal in Iraq has always been, and will always be the oil.
“…it’s decimated al Qaeda and they can’t kill nearly as many people as they used to be able to kill…”
Moron-if Al Qaeda is decimated the how come Denier-In-Chief keeps blaming them for the Iraq situation. How do you know how many people AQ can kill? If AQ is responsible for Iraq, then they have killed about 3000 US soldiers, which is almost the same number as does who died in WTC.
“…Why don’t we say something good about the USA that spent billions of dollars to keep Annan in fancy suits and expense account From UN stand-point there is nothing good to say about US when the Idiot-In-Chief appointed Bolt-On as ambassador who refused to condemn Israel for attacking Lebanon, for killing 18 innocent people in Gaza, and for Israel’s continued fly-overs in Lebanon, which has forced the UN to deploy drones to keep the Israeli F-16 away from the Lebanese skies.
UN has nothin good to say about the UN because it was dupped by Collin Powell who forced UN to sign a resolution permitting US to attack Iraq based on fixed intelligence report about the WMD.
I am sorry about the long post, but this guy just aggrevates me with his idiocy and I needed to vent.
December 12th, 2006 at 12:42 pmJuan, you silly pompous ass, Read Art. 88 & 89 of the UCMJ.
Anyways, I guess Kofi should not be held accountable to the same standard that everyone wants for Bush.
BTW I do denounce the PROVEN atrocities of those who have committed them, But if you are going to go after Bush for what U.S. troops did on the battlefield, then you should go after Kofi for what the UN troops have done.
December 12th, 2006 at 12:43 pmBruce - Your peasant proletariat chatter is charming but misses great swathes of accurate infio. Apparently, you missed the fact of economic fluidity being far greater in the US than elsewhere…..We have more self-made millionaires here than any other country in the world. (Pssst….that doesn’t include the American “dynasties” of Bush, Kennedy, Heinz-Kerry etc.) So I guess that explains why sooo many people want to come here…..legally and illegally.
And I’m just waiting for political activist JuanC to improve the sorry lot of the Mexican Narco-State with the vigor in which he criticizes the US and others.
Dear AS notes,”Europes economy is already stronger, …” Really???? What is their unemployment rate?? What is their job growth like? What is the percentage of their econ growth??? What is their tax rate??? I don’t recall where you received your econ degree……
That darn judge….ha! gotta run……
December 12th, 2006 at 12:49 pmDoes anyone know who that Kristen Powers is and what her credentials are to be a spokesperson for the Democratic Party? Or, is she a self-proclaimed spokesperson for Fox? I’ve been very active in politics my entire adult life and I know a lot of people, but who is she??
December 12th, 2006 at 12:51 pmO’Reily always thanks the GOP for keeping him funded as he spins/blames/lies to cover up their corruption. The man knows how to get paid. The checks might go away when the new Senate/Congess take over. The rats will start turning on each other and O’Reilly will be talking to himself as the facts come out. I hope he got enough money for the sex harassment lawsuit Fox put up the settlement but O’Reilly had to pay them back. Let’s face it the books O’Reilly sells no one buying so the GOP is welcome money.
December 12th, 2006 at 12:55 pmStop posting O’Reilly videos and he will eventually go away. 1/3 of his audience is people like you and me watching to see what f-ed up thing he’ll say next. If you want to keep him on the air, keep watching. If you really want him to go away, just stop.
December 12th, 2006 at 12:59 pmO’Falafel opening his ignorant piehole again… This guy is really tiresome.
December 12th, 2006 at 12:59 pmBut if you are going to go after Bush for what U.S. troops did on the battlefield, then you should go after Kofi for what the UN troops have done.
Comment by robert
Of course I will, as I denounce the raping of Serbian, Kosovarian and Albanese women and men by UN´s blue helmets and NATO soldiers. Do you think I take sides when it comes to denounce atrocities? Do you think I favor some of them due to some favoritism? Youre wrong. If my own father rapes women or men, I would be the first one to denounce him.
And I’m just waiting for political activist JuanC to improve the sorry lot of the Mexican Narco-State with the vigor in which he criticizes the US and others.
December 12th, 2006 at 1:09 pmDrug dealers have a paradise here in Mexico for two reasons: 1) One of the most corrupted governments in the world. 2) US is the most drug consuming country in the world.
mighty aphrodite
No Aphro. It is you who misses the point to my post.
The whole point to America is that its fluidity of class structures is its strength and it is that fluidity which you so despise. You want nobility dictating to the peasants, you do not want a system where the poorest of the poor can rise up to become a billionare.
It is the crux of your very movement, that taxes which go towards things that even the playing field and provide oppertunities to the poor be done away with, along with any and all benefits so that money can stagnate amongst the already rich.
Those who have made their fortunes and do not preach your line and lies, they scare you so you must slam them no matter what. That a man is rich and liberal, you somehow see as being a betrayal of his class, some sort of hypocrisy when the only hypocrisy is in your fear of the rich - who believe in social, enviromental and economic justice.
December 12th, 2006 at 1:14 pmThat darn judge….ha! gotta run……
Comment by mighty aphrodite
Oh please, stop beating that to death, Hagette.
Your inferiority complex is showing…
December 12th, 2006 at 1:16 pmJuan, Ok, well said. I appologize for calling you silly and pompous.
Just as I denounce those that commit atrocities by those of my own branch of service.
December 12th, 2006 at 1:22 pm54. Well said.
December 12th, 2006 at 1:28 pmZooey
How do you know someone doesn’t have the job they claim to have? They keep talking about it and expecting everyone else to be impressed.
Thats really the big difference between Unbelievable, Briseadh na Faire, and Aphro. The former two really do have their qualifications and their jobs, and thus bring them up when their knowledge pertains to a subject. To them, their jobs and qualifications are so much background.
With Aphro, she brings up her job at the drop of a hat. She acts like being a criminal attorney is in some way two steps from being God, and like it is supposed to impress us. I mean hell, she even had to pick the “Glamour” portion of the legal system, the part which gets all the TV shows and faux angst.
Personally I would have been more impressed if she claimed she was a tax lawyer.
Juan C
We all remember the lessons of Chile and Nicaragua. Something tells me all of that American business, and all of that one sided trade isn’t helping Mexico much either, and your ability to do anything about it is seriously hampered by the fear that if you got a good president, he would just get shot.
December 12th, 2006 at 1:37 pmWe have more self-made millionaires here than any other country in the world.
Comment by mighty aphrodite
Ha! What an idiot…so I guess Oman must be also one of the greatest countries in the world.
America is the most powerful country in the world for two reasons:
1) Its war machinery.
2) The greatest, strongest, most organized, middle class in the world (that, sadly tends to become a bourgeoisie)
Rich guys do not produce richness. Middle class is what moves a country. Basics social economics.
December 12th, 2006 at 1:38 pmJuan C,
December 12th, 2006 at 1:46 pmI left you a pointer in yesterday’s TF thread. Its around # 50. Did you se it?
Bruce Gorton,
Exactly. “She” protests too much, and has taken bait no attorney would rise to — even a bad one.
December 12th, 2006 at 1:50 pmJuan C
Sorry but you missed off three:
3: The Arabs. When OPEC formed it started trading in dollars, this means that the American dollar is basically hard currency, this means, thanks to the Arabs, America is the only country in the world which has a currency that is relatively predictable, further, thanks to that whole deal, America pays less for its oil then everyone else. I don’t think I need to explain what a massive advantage this is.
4: America’s massive and growing stockpile of patents.
5: America’s massively protectionist market place, coupled with its ability to insist on its trading partners dropping protectionist policies. America is not alone in this, the EU for example is urging its member states to up barriers against South Africa because we are too competitive for them, but it is a constant with first world countries that they expect the third world to give them open markets, yet refuse to return the favour.
December 12th, 2006 at 1:59 pmO’Reilly: Annan Should Have Thanked U.S. For Spending ‘Billions To Keep Him In Fancy Suits’
REPLACE Annan with O’Reilly
REPLACE U.S. with Rupert Murdoch
REPLACE Billions with Millions
REPLACE Fancy Suits with Falafel
December 12th, 2006 at 2:22 pmLarry from C
Replace “Him” with “It”
December 12th, 2006 at 2:25 pmNever ceases to amaze me, the hatered and intolerance liberal minded people have toward someone that does not see things the way they do. I do not often agree with Bill O’Reilly but when it comes to Kofi Anna, come on! Open your eyes. He was the most corrupt self serving Secretary General the UN has ever had. He did little other than blame America for his complete failure. But I guess anyone who bashes America is alright in your book.
December 12th, 2006 at 2:34 pmDid you se it?
Comment by WaltTheMan
I just finished it. Thanks, Walt.
December 12th, 2006 at 2:47 pmBruce, great pointers. I agree.
I think that your 1) and 3) are a consequence of my 1) and your 2) its a consequence of my 2). Sort of.
December 12th, 2006 at 2:50 pmI do not often agree with Bill O’Reilly but …
Comment by thattune
All said.
December 12th, 2006 at 3:05 pmO’Reilly is nothing but a pathetic waste of human life.
December 12th, 2006 at 3:25 pmthattune
When a country like the US starts acting the way it is now, starts breaking its contracts for no reason (eg: The Non Proliferation Treaty and the India America nuclear tech deal) starts wars for no reason (Iraq) and refuses to listen to anyone else, much less the UN, what the heck is the UN supposed to do? Declare sanctions?
Because, in real terms, it was only in handling the US that Kofi was all that much of a failure. He certainly wasn’t a sequel to Boutros Boutros-Ghali.
December 12th, 2006 at 3:28 pmBill is spot on - Kofi is as worthless as UN diplomats come.
The UN hasn’t saved anyone or anything. It just wastes the people’s money.
The US set millions of people free from Islamofascists in Afghanistan and from a cruel dictator in Iraq. The liberal blowhards commenting on this article wouldn’t help anyone but themselves.
December 12th, 2006 at 4:51 pmA pathetic waste of human life? Why because he thinks differently than you? Are truth, honesty, facts, reality that threating? Don’t worry George Bush will defend your right to hate America as strongly as he defends O’reilly’s right to love it.
December 12th, 2006 at 5:10 pm“Are truth, honesty, facts, reality that threating?”
Honestly, I don’t think that that is what Bill offers at all, and I also think there is a fundamental difference between what many people from the “Con” side of the aisle and I think constitutes this “truth [and] honesty.”
I have noticed for a long time that there /appears/, anyway, to be a basic confusion of “gut feeling” and “common sense” among conservatives with whom I have argued. In my judgment, the absolute first thing to leap to your tongue from the bottom of your id may indeed NOT be “right.” It MIGHT indeed be a good thing for us to consider, and think, and research. It MIGHT be better to allow our more developed (e.g. not animal, not the lizard brain) cortex take precedence.
And this is exactly what O’Reilly and his brethren and sistren (?) so often fail to do. They speak the id and because so many people are /in their guts/ upset, angry, unsettled, he somehow speaks /to/ them and they equate this with his being ineluctably right. Which may not be the case.
O’Reilly as a human is not threatening. What is threatening is that someone gave him a job that allows him to affect a lot of other (apparently very gullible) people. O’Reilly as a human isn’t nearly as threatening as the sad (again, to me) fact that anybody considers him and what he says seriously. O’Reilly would wilt in the face of argument he was not permitted to interrupt and drown out with yelling.
My opinion. Listening exclusively to the id and calling it “honesty” is like /living by/ “in vino veritas/.
December 12th, 2006 at 6:02 pm> Because, in real terms, it was only in handling the US that Kofi was all that much of a failure.
You can’t handle the US. The US handles you. Like a Rottweiler with big, moist puppy eyes. And fleas. Christian fleas.
> He certainly wasn’t a sequel to Boutros Boutros-Ghali.
S’true. Could have been a bit more forceful. Could have told Powell off immediately, too. Here’s The Economist’s judgement (Oct 5, 2006):
For one thing, the UN could sorely use a spot of fastidious administration just now. Mr Annan was not the venal incompetent that some of his critics in America tried to paint him as. But he has certainly been a weak manager. An investigation a year ago by Paul Volcker into the UN’s mishandling of the Iraqi oil-for-food arrangement in the 1990s concluded that the programme was riddled with waste and corruption, and that this reflected the absence of “a strong organisational ethicâ€. As the UN’s chief administrative officer, the man with ultimate responsibility was the secretary-general. Mr Annan was lucky to hold on to his job.
And there you have it.
Also, where *are* those billions that BOR is talking about? Isn’t the US still in arrears? Aren’t those billions being spent elsewhere? Inquiring minds want to know.
December 12th, 2006 at 7:43 pmOr maybe they should start with Oil For Food.
You tool, robert. The Oil for Food scandal involved a whole bunch of US companies…yet you never blame them.
December 12th, 2006 at 9:25 pmOh, Christ, British Gary is back.
December 12th, 2006 at 9:26 pmWouldn’t you think a blog which has a sub-heading “International Relations” MIGHT have a tidbit on the great “Holocaust Revision” meeting in Iran??? Nahh…..wouldn’t want to rile up the anti-Semitic natives in the Prog movement…….
December 13th, 2006 at 12:40 amNahh…..wouldn’t want to rile up the anti-Semitic natives in the Prog movement…….
Blather by MIghtette Hypocrite
By anti-Semitic natives in the Prog movement, do you perhaps mean people like Pat Buchanan and David Duke?
December 13th, 2006 at 7:17 amJPark,
It happened under his watch. Just like many want to blame Bush for what U.S. troops do under his watch.
If the buck stops at the Presidents desk when it comes to US actions, then the buck stops at the Sec Gens desk when it comes to UN actions.
December 13th, 2006 at 11:17 am