John McCain’s War On Blogs
John McCain has made clear that he doesn’t like the blogosphere.
Now he has introduced legislation that would treat blogs like Internet service providers and hold them responsible for all activity in the comments sections and user profiles. Some highlights of the legislation:
– Commercial websites and personal blogs “would be required to report illegal images or videos posted by their users or pay fines of up to $300,000.”
– Internet service providers (ISPs) are already required to issue such reports, but under McCain’s legislation, bloggers with comment sections may face “even stiffer penalties” than ISPs.
— Social networking sites will be forced to take “effective measures” — such as deleting user profiles — to remove any website that is “associated” with a sex offender. Sites may include not only Facebook and MySpace, but also Amazon.com, which permits author profiles and personal lists, and blogs like DailyKos, which allows users to sign up for personal diaries.
Kevin Bankston of the Electronic Frontier Foundation notes that this proposal may be based more “on fear or political considerations rather than on the facts.” When he introduced his legislation to the Senate, McCain offered no evidence that children are being victimized by people who post comments on blogs.
McCain’s legislation could deal a serious blow to the blogosphere. Lacking resources to police their sites, many individual blogs may have to shut down open discussion.
(HT:The Liberty Papers)
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this is just Sad.. the web is the last thing left for people to be able to express themselves ..
December 13th, 2006 at 6:14 pmWar on Christmas, War on Drugs, War on Terror, now a War on Bloggers! What next?
December 13th, 2006 at 6:16 pmThe Republican Party of War and Oppression marches on.
December 13th, 2006 at 6:16 pmSo what you’re saying is that we will have to start behaving?
Damn neocons take all the fun out of everything. Just because they’re all miserable doesn’t mean that we wish to keep them company.
December 13th, 2006 at 6:16 pm“Captain! McCain is decloaking right in front of us!”
December 13th, 2006 at 6:18 pm“Give me a visual. Oh my God. Not a pretty sight.”
“…but I thought the danger came from “Net Neutrality” or something”
“You have been wrong, son. All hands - prepare to abandon ship!”
He knows its the only way Republicans can win elections… shut down the blogs.
December 13th, 2006 at 6:19 pmWho knew that a 5-year stay at the Hanoi Hilton wouldn’t make you crazy but a few terms in the US Senate would.
December 13th, 2006 at 6:20 pmWhy is it that when someone gets caught doing something horrible to another human being we call them a stupid criminal,but when McCain gets caught after doing something horrible to many people(bombing them), he’s hailed as a hero? Do we really need another failure in the Whitehouse?
December 13th, 2006 at 6:20 pmI appreciate the skepticsm bloggers see in this bill. However, TP, is it necessary for everything to be labled a War on “this” and War on “That”?
December 13th, 2006 at 6:21 pmWhen we overuse the word we desensitize ourselves to what War really; it is misued to capture a headline or make a new phrase. It is a repub tactic; let’s not get sucked into their misuse of english.
Why do Republicans hate free speech? Why do Republicans hate America?
December 13th, 2006 at 6:23 pmEl Tonno,
December 13th, 2006 at 6:23 pmNo! No abandoning ship!
Turn and fight!
Load Photon Torpedos!
We will defeat them…..
Blogger/Blogspot would be dead.
December 13th, 2006 at 6:23 pmWow, this is not going to win him any friends. I think this will really affect his showing in the primaries… oh well.
http://www.getsomejosh.com
December 13th, 2006 at 6:24 pm“Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”
December 13th, 2006 at 6:26 pm- George Orwell
War on Christmas, War on Drugs, War on Terror, now a War on Bloggers! What next?
Comment by Rick Brannon — December 13, 2006 @ 6:16 pm
You forgot the War on Science
December 13th, 2006 at 6:27 pmIf this bill does not inhibit free speech, but does indeed put one more impediment between children and predators then I’m all for it. Let me get all mushy here. There is no sense in blogging if it isn’t for the future good, and our kids are our future.
December 13th, 2006 at 6:28 pm“Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.†- George Orwell
Comment by Xenon — December 13, 2006 @ 6:26 pm
EXACTLY!
Instead of accepting that there will always be people who love you and people who hate you, the damn neocons try to silence those who hate them. Just like Tom Delay’s stupid First Amendment hating blog. Though, the fact that he got royally spanked still is funny…
December 13th, 2006 at 6:31 pmIf this bill does not inhibit free speech, but does indeed put one more impediment between children and predators then I’m all for it.
Comment by leftcoast — December 13, 2006 @ 6:28 pm
You may live on the leftcoast, but you are definitely not a leftie.
See we believe that parents should be responsible for raising tehir children, and not the government. This means that YOU monitor what they are doing so that they aren’t open to predators. It is YOUR responsibility to protect your children.
December 13th, 2006 at 6:34 pmWar on Christmas, War on Drugs, War on Terror, now a War on Bloggers! What next?
Comment by Rick Brannon
How about a War on John McCain?
December 13th, 2006 at 6:35 pmTime to start posting kiddie pron on Little Green Footballs, etc…
Note: Poster has nothing to do with kiddie pron…. (Damn, bills like this are already making me paranoid just to joke about them. This is scary stuff McCain… please someone, kill this bill).
December 13th, 2006 at 6:36 pmEverybody should take a page out of the McCain Playbook and do things the old-fashioned way: hire political consultants associated with phone-jammers, racist ads, and Tom DeLay!
December 13th, 2006 at 6:37 pmI wish McCain and others like him would focus on important issues like health issues for citizens…reform the election money machine, help the industry and keep jobs..fix the budget….and on top of all focus on this war in Iraq that is eating up the budget, instead of wasting time on bloggers’ issues.
December 13th, 2006 at 6:38 pmGo ahead, McCain, you dumbass. Right-wing blogs allow comments, too. I’m sure they’ll be thrilled with this legislation.
December 13th, 2006 at 6:39 pmUnbelievable,
I don’t think it is only about monitoring your children, I do agree, you want your kids safe, parent them. but this also covers things I think are sick, such as Kiddy porn. I think each site should to a certian extent monitor content. I doubt Thinkprogress would be too happy if somone starting putting links to snuff videos in their comment section. I don’t think however that a statement, like “I think George W. Bush is the anti-christ”* should fall under a law like this.
*I don’t really consider Bush to be the anti-christ.
December 13th, 2006 at 6:42 pmRight-wing blogs allow comments, too. I’m sure they’ll be thrilled with this legislation.
Comment by motherlowman — December 13, 2006 @ 6:39 pm
Considering that that is where the pedophiles actually hang out…
December 13th, 2006 at 6:43 pmThe “War on” sub-phrase was actually coined by liberals with the “War on poverty”. Since then, the Repugs have seduced the sub-phrase with: “The war on drugs”, “The war on terror”, “The war on taxes (of the rich)†and “The war on the middle class”. Does anyone see a trend here?
December 13th, 2006 at 6:43 pm[…] Think Progress: John McCain has made clear that he doesn’t like the blogosphere. […]
December 13th, 2006 at 6:45 pm#18 unbelievable. You’re correct, I do think it is a parent’s responsibility to protect our children. Was just looking out for the one’s who’s parents could care less about their kids. And I know that argument opens a slipperyslope, but today’s protection is getting more difficult everyyear. Parents cannot be everywhere. To use your argument we would not put gaurdrails up on balconies.
December 13th, 2006 at 6:45 pmOT: Did anyone else see David Duke, holocaust denier & ex-KKK member on Blitzer earlier? He threw a frickin’ hissy fit because of the way Blitzer introduced him, and the whole interview went south from there. It was great. Duke is such a prissy asshole.
Blitzer’s show repeats (on the west coast) at 4 p.m.
December 13th, 2006 at 6:52 pmI have an idea… instead of punishing innocent webmasters and the like, and rather than limiting “free speech” for the “sake of the kids”, why don’t we just start imposing tougher penalties on parents who don’t bother to supervise their children? I mean, c’mon, don’t they have ANY responsibility for their own kids?
This move is about politics. Blogs are scary because they have an effect on politics and aren’t completely tied up in the old school system they’re used to exploiting. Jeez, guys. Are we gonna have to outlaw comments on blogs altogether? This bill makes no sense.
December 13th, 2006 at 6:52 pmI don’t really consider Bush to be the anti-christ.
Comment by Krazny — December 13, 2006 @ 6:42 pm
December 13th, 2006 at 6:55 pmI certainly haven’t ruled it out.
I don’t think it is only about monitoring your children,
But that’s the button he’s pushing. Noam Chomsky and Gore Vidal were saying decades aso that they would do this. They would attempt to monitor or censor the internet in the name of saving children from pornography. And, as usual, he was right about what the right will do to destroy the Constitution.
I doubt Thinkprogress would be too happy if somone starting putting links to snuff videos in their comment section.
But that’s just comon sense and decency. They already do that on their own. It’s not at all what bothers me. What bothers me, as a teacher, is that people refuse to take responsibility for raising their own children and will then subscribe to every law or policy implementation that shifts that responsibility to someone else.
That garbage existed when I was a kid. It wasn’t invented with the Internet. And you know why I wasn’t exposed to it? Because my parents were awake. We’re teaching people to be more and more irresponsible when we allow crap like McCain is proposing to happen - because it actually gives people a false sense of security that they don’t have to monitor their kids because the government has fixed the system. Only we know that where their is a will (and sex is perhaps the greatest), there is a way…
I don’t think however that a statement, like “I think George W. Bush is the anti-christâ€* should fall under a law like this.
*I don’t really consider Bush to be the anti-christ.
Comment by Krazny — December 13, 2006 @ 6:42 pm
But that is what they want - and this is the first step in taking them there.
If I believed in Anti-Christs, I would think Bush would be a strong contender… But Cheney being more likely.
December 13th, 2006 at 6:56 pmthe blogosphere is the grass roots arm of the Internet… it gives many great thinkers/writers who can’t get someone to pay them for their ideas, including myself, a place to share their gifts with the world… it also allows some real putzes to do that, but hey, you take the good with the bad…
does this really have a shot at passing?
December 13th, 2006 at 6:57 pmTo use your argument we would not put gaurdrails up on balconies.
Comment by leftcoast — December 13, 2006 @ 6:45 pm
No, that is not my argument.
My argument is that Republicans don’t care about the children (they only care about fetuses) - they care about silencing the opposition.
December 13th, 2006 at 6:58 pmI don’t really consider Bush to be the anti-christ.
Comment by Krazny
That would be Cheney.
December 13th, 2006 at 6:59 pmWhy do republicans hate the internet so much? Oh that’s right, what am I thinking, they hate the internet because they hate being called out on their own shit by themselves.
December 13th, 2006 at 6:59 pmSo McCain hates free speach. Hence, McCain hates the United States and all it stands for. Exactly how much did McCain get when he sold his soul to the devil?
December 13th, 2006 at 6:59 pmWhy do Republicans always do everything piecemeal? Just repeal the Constitution and get it over with already. This is like Chinese water torture. Oops. Sorry.
December 13th, 2006 at 7:00 pmZooey took it right out of my mouth:
War On McKain!
Here are some more:
©War On A$$holes!
©War On War!
©War On Liars!
©War On Taxes!
©War On Pedophiles!
©War On Abusers!
©War On Warts!
Any more good ideas? I am doing bumpersticker on those.
December 13th, 2006 at 7:00 pmThere was a time when McCain seemed like the only acceptable candidate the Republicans could run for president. His overtures to the religious right, however, irreversibly changed my mind. Now this gratuitous attack on bloggers.
You’re right, URSUS. Why do Republicans hate the First Amendment, the Fourth Amendment, the entire Bills of Rights, the Constitution … and America?
And leftcoast, before you give up your rights because a politician claimed he was doing something “for the children,” go to csicop.org and search for “sexual predators.â€
December 13th, 2006 at 7:01 pmgod forbid that anyone speak the truth or denounce the fuhrer, seig heil!
December 13th, 2006 at 7:01 pmMcCain is the Manchurian Candidate. Stay away from him.
-GSD
December 13th, 2006 at 7:02 pmDid any of you bother to read the link to the legislation : http://politechbot.com/ docs/ mccain.child.sex.offender.120806.pdf ??
It says NOTHING about attacking blogs. It is legislation that is attacking sites/blogs that post child porn pics/video. It says that owners of blogs/sites that don’t report/remove said material can be fined… how the hell did you assholes strawman this as an attack on blogs and free speech?
Try reading the legislation and not just what the article writer paraphrased and used to further their agenda.
December 13th, 2006 at 7:07 pmI am doing bumpersticker on those.
Comment by ItsJustKarma
War on Hypocrisy
December 13th, 2006 at 7:09 pm#29 - {õ£õ},
December 13th, 2006 at 7:11 pmYou are correct, the term “War on polio” was coined by FDR in 1938 - another liberal.
Try reading the legislation and not just what the article writer paraphrased and used to further their agenda.
Comment by I read.. you don’t — December 13, 2006 @ 7:07 pm
Try thinking about the ramifications of what you read - instead of blindly accepting anything McCain spews as a ‘blessing’. Gag.
You’re reading comprehension skills are negligible.
December 13th, 2006 at 7:11 pmWar on Hypocrisy
Comment by Zooey — December 13, 2006 @ 7:09 pm
You mean male nipples? :D
December 13th, 2006 at 7:12 pmRichard, #41- I have never voted for anything simply on the use of the word children in an Initiative or Proposition. Bu thanks for the advice.
December 13th, 2006 at 7:12 pmFrom McCain’s remarks:
protecting our children is a top priority for members of Congress
Really? So what did you people do when you learned that Foley was soliciting sex from Congressional pages?
Ah, Republicans, always blaming someone else for their misdeeds…
December 13th, 2006 at 7:14 pmLook at him!
December 13th, 2006 at 7:14 pmIt’s easy to imagine how bad his breath must be
with his mind so twisted.
Bu$h didn’t look too good but this guy?
He might get rightwing maggots votes, but
the women want something more handsome
than this. Somebody charismatic like J.F. Kennedy,
William Clinton or Barack Obama.
Just a few months ago a poll showed that most Americans believe that there is too much freedom of the press. Repugs convinced a majority that we don’t need so much freedom because it’s dangerous and un-American. That was just one step away from convincing the majority that we should not have blogs to express ourselves in a free exchange of ideas, either. I hope the majority woke up on November 6th and that they will realize that this type of legislation is what’s really dangerous.
December 13th, 2006 at 7:14 pmWell, off to Canada with our blog servers. What can McCain do to stop it?
December 13th, 2006 at 7:15 pmYou mean male nipples? :D
Comment by unbelievable
Hastert in a Speedo.
December 13th, 2006 at 7:17 pmZooey:
The profit from Your sticker ideas will go to TP.
December 13th, 2006 at 7:17 pmDone deal.
McCain is at least consistent. If you go to his website your two options are to sign up for his emails or donate money. No stinking blogging or direct contact allowed.
My suggestion: go to http://www.congress.org and send McCain an email telling him you’d vote for him if he wasn’t a coward for not putting up a blog on his website.
Hints:
1) you’ll have to put in an Arizona zipcode when asked. Anything from 85001 through 85080 for Phoenix, for example.
2) Use area code 602 and some other numbers for your phone.
Enjoy!
December 13th, 2006 at 7:20 pmTherefore, I am speechless.
December 13th, 2006 at 7:22 pmThe older McCain gets, the more he’s morphing into Dubya.
December 13th, 2006 at 7:24 pm#51
December 13th, 2006 at 7:26 pmThank You once again!
Republicans are the Alzheimer Party:
Mark Foley? Who was that?
Tom Delay, Abramoff???
Do I know You? Where do I have to put my vote?
I didn’t even know that there is a war in Iraq!?
Done deal.
Comment by ItsJustKarma
Too cool. :)
December 13th, 2006 at 7:29 pmItsJustKarma,
Who’s Your Daddy?
December 13th, 2006 at 7:30 pmI think John McCain and Ann Coulter are the same person. They’ve never been photographed together.
December 13th, 2006 at 7:35 pmPretty vociferous comment there, I read.. You don’t [sic]. Did you read the Terms and Conditions?
Maybe the rest of us are just suspicious. For starters, the bill was written to nominally achieve what you describe — and “for other purposes.†Those of us who realize the Military Commissions Act of 2006 erased habeas corpus for all of us are rightly suspicious of phrases like that. Second, it looks to me as if it requires anybody who sees child pornography on the Internet to report it. Ask yourself whether the possibility of becoming an accidental criminal would put a damper on blogging.
The fact is, the Republicans want to dictate, regulate and monitor every aspect of Americans’ behavior according to some medieval concept of “American values.â€
Oh, “straw man†is two words, and not a verb.
December 13th, 2006 at 7:36 pmThats why Foley MSMed one of them. Foley wanted to be the Pam Rogers of the Congress.
December 13th, 2006 at 7:39 pmin his breathless quest for the Oval Office, McCain will say or do anything these days, won’t he? it’s impossible to keep up with his mental flights-of-fancy.
Not Presidential.
December 13th, 2006 at 7:41 pm#65 - Comment by Richard
Heh.
December 13th, 2006 at 7:44 pmMcCain is correct! But he does not go far enough. Kids get lured by sex offenders outside of schools and in churches. So, those have to go. The offenders get their victims in public restrooms and park playgrounds. Those have to go. Sex offenders use candy to lure their child victims. So, we’ve got to monitor candy sales - maybe require a license and a waiting period. And offenders use cars to prowl. We’ve got to increase our vigilance of car dealers to make sure they don’t sell to offenders and fine them if they do. Oh, we can’t forget the obvious. Offenders live in houses and apartments so we better monitor those realtors and landlords. Protect the children.
**sarcasm off**
Protect your power, more like it.
December 13th, 2006 at 7:44 pmthis proposal may be based more “on fear or political considerations rather than on the facts.â€
December 13th, 2006 at 7:46 pmWouldnt it be a soy overdose in McCain´s diet?
Another stupid, republican, white man. Aside from his flip-flopper comments and insance rantings of late, just look at that face. Gross, blotchy complexion. Yellow, gross looking teeth. A few white strands of hair. Out-of-control eyebrows. Very presidential.
December 13th, 2006 at 7:47 pmHastert in a Speedo.
Comment by Zooey — December 13, 2006 @ 7:17 pm
Now that’s a bumpersticker people would notice…
Just saw the Blitzer-Duke exchange. Pretty ugly. I was disturbed when Duke said a couple of things that I agreed with… But then I realized that it was for completely polar opposite reasons. I think the US should be neutral and stop meddling in the Middle East, while he hates Jewish people… Odd for a KKKristianist to hate Jews. Aren’t they the chosen people of god for whom folks like MA and IRI were always in adulation?
Okay, gotta go see what TP comments made it on The Daily Show today…
December 13th, 2006 at 7:48 pmphew, republicans really hate free speech and progress. It’s sad to see that this party still holds the name that Thomas Jefferson anointed it.
December 13th, 2006 at 7:50 pmfree
Actually, Jefferson belonged to the Democratic-Republican party which later just called itself the Democratic party.
December 13th, 2006 at 7:54 pmGreat post’s all, caption should read.” I’m slowski furhor McCaine”, I will be you’re next dictator…..
Hastert in a speedo was a riot Zooey…..One more screen spray on that one.. Do they make those thing’s that large?…I would think he would have to go to Seattle tent and awning for his suit’s…..
I’m not going to jump into this frey to much, just to say I want all the law’s they passed recended and no new ones that in any way are against what little bit of the constitution we have left……Parent’s must be responsible for their children not the government…..Come to think of it all parent’s should rise up and demand their kid’s be sent home from this miserable war that bush started and doesn’t know how to end…Blessings all
December 13th, 2006 at 8:03 pmAs a fellow Vietnam vet, I respect McCain’s service but find his desire to kill our Democracy too much to swallow.
And with his recent ass-kissing and pandering to any group that seems to be important to him, he is selling himself more than a Saigon whore!
BTW, are you going to get Tommy ‘Bug-sprayer’ Delay to advise you on how to control those nasty liberal focused comments?
December 13th, 2006 at 8:11 pm75. “I’m slowski furhor McCaine, I will be you’re next dictator”…..
Ha. LMAO
December 13th, 2006 at 8:18 pmanother method, and more acceptable:
Two US states propose moves to tighten oversight of sex offenders
The Associated Press Published: December 11, 2006
RICHMOND, Virginia: Officials in two states proposed unusual plans to tighten oversight of convicted sex offenders: Virginia’s attorney general wants them to register their e-mail addresses and online IDs, and New York officials want them to take lie-detector tests.
this paragraph towards the end of the story is curious:
Democratic Sen. Charles Schumer and Republican Sen. John McCain announced plans for similar federal legislation last week, but theirs would apply only to those on probation or parole. McDonnell’s plan for Virginia would apply to all convicted sex offenders.
mccave sure is busy worrying about the children…
December 13th, 2006 at 8:18 pmthis is such a scam…
McCain can kiss my fat american ass
December 13th, 2006 at 8:19 pmJohn, your mind is deranged. Too many years in the senate, I imagine. Oh, maybe your hotel room.
December 13th, 2006 at 8:26 pmGet lost, there is a system beyond your vision of capitol”ism”.
Yeah yeah, whatever, lets see how far it’ll get.
December 13th, 2006 at 8:31 pmLet’s form a “war” definition pool. I’ll prime the pump:
No child left behind = War against education.
Clear skies = War against the Atmospere.
Operation Iraqi freedon = War against peace in the Middle East.
Lower taxes for the rich = War against the United States’ economy.
I’ll be dead before judgement is passed on my office = Total self-denial. = War against the intellect.
December 13th, 2006 at 8:32 pmHe won’t win in 2008, to ugly, to old, to much like the terrible one’s we now have and like one poster said no carisma…The women will not vote for the chimpmonk no matter what….BTW..Slowski Furhor McCaine, you can kiss my old wrinkled butt….We will make sure you don’t get in the black house, the one’s in there now are to many evils for america……Blessings
December 13th, 2006 at 8:34 pmGood post Sharon.
December 13th, 2006 at 8:37 pmThe Republican Lobotomy McCain had in South Carolina in 2000 has taken full effect…he is now a Master Republican. This time however, he will not be able to outrun the flips and flops of his career. The Republican “base” that he is trying to secure is full of Sodomites and Pharisees, a shamble indeed.
December 13th, 2006 at 8:42 pmHe is correct in trying to stamp out the blogs…the blogs did more to derail that bunch than anything else, and I believe any attempt to control this space should be met head on.
Slowski Furhor McCaine
Now that’s funny, Sharon. :)
December 13th, 2006 at 8:42 pmLet’s form a “war†definition pool
Comment by WaltTheMan
Guatemala = War against bananas NOT produced by United Fruit
Panama = War on Bush I´s former CIA buddies gone reckless.
Nicaragua = War on democratic elected government that erases polio, raises literacy rates and health services.
Columbia = Columbians are too stupid to trade their own coke.
Afghanistan and Iraq = That opium and oil is all mine.
December 13th, 2006 at 8:42 pmBeing a self richeous capitolist = renaming someone other than a “Ford” to close down the shop. = Hypocrites.
December 13th, 2006 at 8:43 pmThis might be fun and forever perpetual.
Is this a big problem on the internet? Are there blog comments that have links to child porn? I visit many blogs and I have yet to see one. Can someone post a link to a blog that has a child porn link?
And most of all, if McCain is truly interested in protecting my children, then why doesn’t he investigate the members of the Republican Congress, especially the ones who are involve in Foleygate. I don’t see him doing that at all. What a hypocrite!
This legislation stinks to high heaven. It’s time we get rid of slime like McCain. The guy has lost any and all integrity.
December 13th, 2006 at 8:52 pmHow about the Federal Government holding business owners accountable for what is written on their public restroom walls?
December 13th, 2006 at 8:58 pmHow about the Federal Government holding business owners accountable for what is written on their public restroom walls?
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
How about the Federal Government holding my opthamologist accountable for my being able to read what is written on public restroom walls?
December 13th, 2006 at 9:07 pmHow about the Federal Government holding business owners accountable for what is written on their public restroom walls?
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — December 13, 2006 @ 8:58 pm
Excellent.
December 13th, 2006 at 9:07 pmComment by Zooey — December 13, 2006 @ 9:07 pm
For that you have to blame teachers. So I guess the Federal Government should hold teachers liable for what is written … everywhere!
December 13th, 2006 at 9:12 pmBoy these guys love BIG GOVERNMENT! WOW!
December 13th, 2006 at 9:12 pmBnF - I allways thought that the art on crapper stalls was done by OBGYN’s. It is usually an anatomically correct view from the stirrups, unless you mean the occasional Urologist who takes a dump.
December 13th, 2006 at 9:13 pmBoy that made everbody comment
tommiedelay has a tongue up johnniemccains arse!!!!!
December 13th, 2006 at 9:19 pmI allways thought that the art on crapper stalls was done by OBGYN’s. It is usually an anatomically correct view from the stirrups, unless you mean the occasional Urologist who takes a dump.
Comment by WaltTheMan
I don’t go into near enough mens rooms. All the ladies has is “Tiffany is a bitch.”
December 13th, 2006 at 9:20 pmLet’s see, Bathroom scribbles…..For a great date call Clooney, if you just want to get screwed call the white house….Is that how that work’s?..LOL…Blessings
December 13th, 2006 at 9:24 pmWell, of course, St John does not like the blogosphere: it has been detailing His Holiness’s whorish behavior since 2004.
McCain is a power-mad slut. And a freaking idiot… He has not figured out yet the message of the November 7 elections.
We do not want a tone-deaf imbecile in the White House any more that we want a diseased whore in the White House.
December 13th, 2006 at 9:31 pmTime to mobilize the blogosphere to keep the fascist crap out!
Where do we start?
December 13th, 2006 at 9:33 pmWe do not want a tone-deaf imbecile in the White House any more that we want a diseased whore in the White House.
Comment by New Yorker
Well stated, New Yorker. And colorful…
December 13th, 2006 at 9:35 pmIf the Supreme Court can construe the passing of corporate money to our politicians as being “free speech”, surely they can find their way clear to protect truely free speech in the blogosphere.
December 13th, 2006 at 9:40 pmDoes he support torturing bloggers also ?
December 13th, 2006 at 9:45 pmJohn McCain can now kiss my ass. He is a big an idiot as the ass he kisses, ie George Bush’s.
December 13th, 2006 at 9:47 pmJust what we need..another dumb-assed old man who thinks we have “Internets”. What a dumb tool.
Yes, Tiffany IS a bitch…
As for linking to porn, it has been done on TP. Although I thought it was a tasteful nude set, the other people in Houston Terminal E demurred.
December 13th, 2006 at 9:47 pmFor that you have to blame teachers. So I guess the Federal Government should hold teachers liable for what is written … everywhere!
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — December 13, 2006 @ 9:12 pm
I thought they were already doing this…
One of our principals e-mailed a statistic on the teacher turn-over rate. It’s higher than the high school drop-out rate… And so, what is our system doing? Making it harder to be a teacher… We already have two that are leaving at the end of this year and the BOE is freaking out. But they can’t connect the dots… I suppose teachers will get blamed for this lack of reading comprehension as well?
December 13th, 2006 at 9:48 pmOhhhh…. Moleman, are you going to spank me for saying you are a little do-do breath? Ohhh don’t spank me Mr. Moleman…I’m sorry for being a bad little blogosphere boy. Ohhh you have so much power it makes me wanna blog myself. That big conservative blog you have is much bigger then mine! Ohhh King blogman GO F***K YOURSELF!
Moleman shows his true colors again….dark.
December 13th, 2006 at 9:48 pmif you just want to get screwed call the white house….Is that how that work’s?..LOL…Blessings
Comment by Sharon Cox — December 13, 2006 @ 9:24 pm
Scary how true that is… :)
December 13th, 2006 at 9:49 pmThanks, Zooey.
Now we need to work to make sure that the Internet — and therefore the blogs — remains free of any governmental intervention.
How do we go about this? I am a total novice at this.
December 13th, 2006 at 9:52 pmYes, Tiffany IS a bitch…
I know, but I shouldn’t have written that…
As for linking to porn, it has been done on TP. Although I thought it was a tasteful nude set, the other people in Houston Terminal E demurred.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
They were just diplaying their silly Americanized boob sensibilities. :P
December 13th, 2006 at 9:52 pmDoes he support torturing bloggers also ?
Comment by Fools on the Hill — December 13, 2006 @
If he starts his own blog we will know.
December 13th, 2006 at 9:53 pmF***School vouchers - support all the schools and make them work for the kids. And frankly stop buying f***ing computers, get rid of the f***ing paperwork and pay the teachers a decent wage.
TerrytheTurtle/The Caveman from the Geico adverts 2008.
December 13th, 2006 at 9:55 pmNow seriously, could you imagine the lobbying if Exxon were going to be held liable every time someone wrote “forbidden words” or drew an explicit picture in one of their gas station restrooms? After all, children visit those restrooms and are exposed to those messages and images.
If the government is going regulate speech on the internet by holding those who host sites liable, then shouldn’t it regulate all forums by holding the owners/lessors of the property liable as well?
December 13th, 2006 at 9:55 pmZoo don’t underate boobs - if I had a pair of my own I’d not go out nearly as much.
December 13th, 2006 at 9:58 pmHow do we go about this? I am a total novice at this.
Comment by New Yorker
You got me, NY. That’s a question for our wise and intrepid attorney, Briseadh na Faire.
December 13th, 2006 at 10:00 pmNew Yorker - write letters to your elected representatives and anyone you think is going to influence the decision. Letters make a difference - that’s a fact. Then get on the blogs and present yout considered opinion again and again. If that doesn’t work, make sure you download the recipe for Molotov Cocktails before the web is sut down. See you on the streets - I’ll be the turtle.
December 13th, 2006 at 10:02 pmZoo don’t underate boobs - if I had a pair of my own I’d not go out nearly as much.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
No kidding… :)
December 13th, 2006 at 10:03 pmZoo don’t underate boobs - if I had a pair of my own I’d not go out nearly as much.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle —
What a guy statement…….
December 13th, 2006 at 10:04 pm;)
Although with my travel schedule I’ll probably grow my own soon.
(The Turtle blogs once again from a bastion of sanity in the heart of Houston.)
December 13th, 2006 at 10:06 pmA turtle with boobs? Would that not smart when traversing a cement driveway in Florida in August? In the same situation, I would not go out myself. I would not have the balls to do it.
December 13th, 2006 at 10:11 pm(The Turtle blogs once again from a bastion of sanity in the heart of Houston.)
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
Who are you pissing off? Geez…
December 13th, 2006 at 10:13 pmGlad to see you here Terry…..More often please.. With or with out the boob’s :O )…Blessings
December 13th, 2006 at 10:24 pmShame on the author of this blog for completely misrepresenting the legislation in question.
I’m liberal and don’t have much sympathy for Republicans or even McCain, but you can’t go around lying about and twisting his words or else you just descend to a level you don’t want to be at.
December 13th, 2006 at 10:24 pm[…]  I read an article today where John McCain has basically declared war on the blogsphere. It seems John has introduce legislation to force bloggers to be treated like ISP’s where they are responsible for all their content. Now I don’t have a problem with the infringement of others intellectual rights, but the section about being responsible for comments is just crazy. […]
December 13th, 2006 at 10:33 pmYou think it might be because the blogs took down his gop buddies in 06 and may show and say embarassing things about him for 08????
December 13th, 2006 at 10:33 pmQuestions: 1. Did you read the proposed legislation? 2. Did you understand its ramifications?
Don’t just look at what a bill says it’s being written for, look at the furthest reaches of the bill. The PATRIOT ACT was supposed to protect us from “terrorists” yet it’s greatest utility has been in busting drug dealers/users, not terrorists.
Just ask yourself, how many terrorist rings have been broken up since its passage? We were told there were some 5,000 terrorist organizations active in the U.S. and that passing the PATRIOT Act was necessary to bring them to justice.
McCain’s bill can reach as far as the authors of this blog suggest. Even to your own little website.
December 13th, 2006 at 10:36 pm[…] Check out St. McCain’s latest batshit-crazy “maverick” idea to “protect” “children”…by silencing criticism of St. McCain! John McCain has made clear that he doesn’t like the blogosphere. […]
December 13th, 2006 at 10:39 pmThis is hilarious. Shut down the blogs on the same day that the Republicans poison the winning Democrat vote in the Senate. They are some cold blooded killers.
December 13th, 2006 at 10:45 pmMcCain is a troubled man. I really don’t understand why some called him
December 13th, 2006 at 10:54 pmthe Democrat’s republican. Did Kerry really ask him to be a running partner?
Tucked into this little anti-free speech legislation will be a footnote that reads in (4 pt); “For purposes of definition, any mention of the word ‘Keating Five’ will be considered child pornography”.
Really, the crusade to protect our kids is really just a way to stifle free speech. They want a toehold into regulating internet content…once they get in, there’ll be lots more regulation to come. What they can’t control, scares the sh*t out of them.
December 13th, 2006 at 11:02 pmMcCain’s bill can reach as far as the authors of this blog suggest.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — December 13, 2006 @ 10:36 pm
I am always wary of any legislation that seems to be a solution looking for a problem to solve, and that is touted by its proponents as a necessary tool to protect the children.
It is the hallmark of the dubiously ethical to hide behind the children to deflect any criticism their behavior may elicit. Because you know any critic will be asked “What, don’t you want to protect the children?”
December 13th, 2006 at 11:08 pmJohn McCain has admitted that he knows nothing about computers and prefers a pencil and paper as well as his paper day planner. He does not go on line and knows nothing but what his staff tells him about computers. His staff has to print his email for him.
He has no business trying to regulate something he knows NOTHING about.
December 13th, 2006 at 11:16 pmHillary & Video Games
McCain and Blogs
We don’t have much to look forward to in ‘08 do we? Together they both scare me about as much as Shrubby…
It all comes down to parental responsibility. Personally I LOVE violent video games, Grand Theft Auto is truly one of the best games around. Why watch a gangster movie, when you can “star in your own”.
I would NEVER allow my kids to play these games, just as I wouldn’t allow them to play R or X rated movies.
I don’t want to hear “parents can’t watch their children 24 hours a day”, your right you can’t but you can lock your computers, enable Vchip technology on your TV’s, just as hopefully you lock your guns up. I used to be pretty much anti-gun before Bush, but his abuse of power has convinced me keeping guns in our hands is as important as responsible ownership, and limited control (back ground checks, waiting periods, etc). But the left needs to drop this ban all guns crap now. I did, you can too!
This in one case where I don’t want the govt “helping me”, and anyone who does is an idiot and should not be a parent in the first place. Technology has provided you the tools to be responsible.
As a child (60’s-70′) I was not allowed a TV in my room, today you’re a fool if you do. As liberal and free speech as I am, todays TV is not for children. Only adults that act like them.
Well that’s my rant… and I’m sticking to it.
December 13th, 2006 at 11:24 pm[…] read more | digg story […]
December 13th, 2006 at 11:27 pmE-mail him here;
December 13th, 2006 at 11:29 pmhttp://mccain.senate.gov//contact/index.cfm?ID=64
How about a War on Wars?
December 13th, 2006 at 11:34 pmOld men trying to intimidate others with their technology.
December 13th, 2006 at 11:37 pm“I have some information you don’t”.
Sounds like the tactics of the RIAA or the movie industry trying to stop early Betamax vcrs.
Get with the times!
Since McCain has declared war on blogs and bloggers, then we must declare war on him! It’s time to take down that fruitcake and force him to resign in disgrace from the Senate!
December 13th, 2006 at 11:41 pm[…] http://thinkprogress.org/ 2006/ 12/ 13/ mccain-war-on-blogs/ […]
December 13th, 2006 at 11:55 pm“We have to protect the children.”
The battle cry of American oppression of free speech. It is an EXCUSE to inflict even more draconian regulations on our “democracy”.
A more important question than ” why have all of our politicians lost their friggin’ minds?” would have to be “why are the American sheeple sitting still for this?” Washington, Jefferson, etc. gave us something truly great and our generation seems hell bent on throwing it in the toilet!
December 13th, 2006 at 11:56 pm[…] John McCain has put forward a bill, which basically forces individual blogs to police their comments or risk the same fines as ISPs. The best part is this section: […]
December 14th, 2006 at 12:05 amBlogs, youtube, etc are suddenly powerful players in the world of politics, entertainment, culture, business, and so on. We can see candidates being destroyed through a you-tube video, movies being hyped through myspace, new trends and news spreading through blogs, and the list keeps going. I see this ‘new’ world as having democratic roots on an almost theoretical level, and also being in direct opposition to other ‘old’ world conceptual powers such as political parties and big business. I don’t see McCain as trying to silence bloggers because of their political activism, rather, because of fiscal pressures (read campaign finance). Also, I think to do as he proposes would be next to impossible. The government can never keep up with new technology at the pace that many bloggers do. When something is made illegal, it is often the birthplace of invention. Thanks!
December 14th, 2006 at 12:17 am[…] Think Progress » John McCain’s War On Blogs […]
December 14th, 2006 at 12:23 amThat’s right Mr. McCain. The crime should fit the punishment. Hell with $300,000 fines. Copyright violation or libel on a blog should be a capital offense, damit.
December 14th, 2006 at 12:38 amnext he will want to prosecute all the little kids who paste copyrighted material into their scrapbooks.
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December 14th, 2006 at 1:05 amYawn. When anyone here has a chance to read the First Amendment and the Supreme Court cases related to it …
December 14th, 2006 at 1:24 amI read the Tom Delay site, oh I laughed, sputtered, giggled and guffawed. If he hasn’t got the message I will watch this pervert very carefully. He is so criminaland pathetic!
McCain is worse
December 14th, 2006 at 1:31 amFirst of all, yes there are child molesters online who stalk children in the comments section of blogs.
But it’s really not political blogs. They are lurking wherever childrens interests are concerned. For instance I was very wary when my 9 year old son started swapping football stickers on the net, and I made sure he wouldn’t meet anybody without my supervision. And I’m with unbelievable here it is the responsibility of parents to make sure they know what their kids are up to. On the other hand: If I was working several jobs at the minimum wage, would I have the time to supervise my boys?
The “protection of children” is sheer hypocrisy. NO one on this administration even thinks once, let alone twice, about what children need. How about good schooling by well paid teachers ? How about affordable day-care for working parents? How about health-care? How about a minimum wage that people can actually live off? (To be fair, yes the children of the Hilton’s have been provided for)
This bill is not intended to make children safer, this bill is intended to shut up people. It’s designed to induce self-censorship. If I don’t have a comments section, noone will fine me. You guys in liberal blogs did such a splendid job informing the electorate, this is a grass roots movement, and the Republicans lost both houses in the process. In their eyes this can’t go on. And I sort of like it, when they try to shut blogs up, this reminds me of how powerful you really are.
BTW unbleievable: I’m still grinning about DeLays blog experience, too.
December 14th, 2006 at 1:40 amGood post, Doro. You are obviously not Doro Bush.
December 14th, 2006 at 1:46 amThanks Lora
December 14th, 2006 at 1:51 amJohn McCain so desperately wants to be the next neocon poster boy of destruction. John McCain wants the seemingly unbridled power that accompanies being a neocon president. John McCain wants to personally benefit monetarily at the expense of our constitution, bill of rights and our lives, if need be. He’s sucking up to the man he used to present as intolerent, Jerry Falwell. He now approves of torture when he himself was tortured during his duration as a prisoner of war in Vietnam.
John McCain so desperately wants to be president that he will allign himself with anyone, say anything, wrap, shape, twist and spin any statement any way he can. Obviously, he is has already begun to sell what’s left of his integrity to lure the ultra-right wing’s base toward himself. It’s sickening.
Colin Powell sold his integrity when he agreed to make that one fateful speech to the U.N. on behalf of the Bush/Cheney neocon cabal so they could justify their PNAC aspirations of taking over Iraq. They needed his reputation and trustworthiness that General Powell had with the American people. And they got just what they wanted by using this man’s credibility when they, comparably, had none to offer. In short, he was used.
John McCain will do anything, say anything and use anyone to be president. He is morphing into nothing more than the next neocon scumbag-in-waiting. The American people finally awakened just soon enough to send a message during the recent mid-term elections. Obviously, John McCain didn’t get the same message. He will be resouningly defeated. And hopefully, humiliated.
Integrity… the one thing no one can take from you, but it can be so easily bought and so easily sold.
December 14th, 2006 at 1:59 amwell i can bet you SOMEBODY won’t be winning the presedency…
December 14th, 2006 at 2:14 amLet’s try something new. Writing our Congress Critters is pointless; I get form letters from Nancy Pelosi about the awful Iraq “war” (read: invasion/occupation) yet every time the Shrubbery wants more money for it she votes it in. I suspect the reason the neocons allowed this year’s election to be relatively untarnished is that an awful lot of those ‘liberal’ democrats are plants. They talk a blue streak, and vote using a red check pen.
This is why my suggestion is if you write letters to Congress, .cc copies to:
- CEOs for Fortune 500 corps
- CEOs and board members of any metacorps you know of, even though they are much less famous than their holdings, they have much more power. Metacorporations are those giga-holding companies and investment firms that are the next ownership-tier up from these Fortune 500 CEOs…they fund and then manage hundreds of major corporations. Think of less-heard-about names like ‘Sacks o’ Gold, Man!’ (aka Goldman Sachs) for THAT is a metacorp if ever there was one. But I’d like to hear of who the others are. The government is owned by corporations. We are not a democracy, we are a somewhat democratic-appearing corporatist oligarchy. So if we want things changed, I think the thing to do is go straight to the owners and say:
Give them something to think about: make them realise we’re not buying the myth that the government really runs things any more.
Just a thought.
December 14th, 2006 at 2:53 am-333
It’s funny how the right wingers will point to China and their rather draconian censorship of the Internet as a model of suppression a how freew we are and then turn around and attemp to institute essentially the same policies here.
December 14th, 2006 at 2:56 amI’m no fan of Republicans. I’m a liberal Democrat and proud of it.
But please get your facts straight before reporting stuff like this.
December 14th, 2006 at 2:58 amThe North Vietnamese took the wrong approach with McCain. They should have offered him a high position in their government and he’d have done anything they wanted.
December 14th, 2006 at 3:01 amPitty on you , you misinformed prat
December 14th, 2006 at 3:04 amThe Manchurian Candidate John McCain attempts to turn US into Communist China following suit as China’s Leaders Launch Smokeless War against Internet and Media Dissent
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December 14th, 2006 at 3:34 amBlogs will move offshore.
Webhosts will move offshore.
Hell, I’m thinking of moving anyway.
December 14th, 2006 at 3:34 am[…] John McCain no le gustan blogs 0 comentarios Fecha: Diciembre, 14, 2006 Autor: CalheR Tema: Blogs PolÃtica Internacional JohnMcCain, Senador por Arizona y republicano mejor situado para ser candidato a Presidente en las próximas elecciones de 2008, ha hecho una propuesta que puede echar a temblar a más de una gran empresa de Internet y, lo que es aún peor, a todo blogger que permita hacer comentarios en sus páginas. Es decir, a todo blogger. […]
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December 14th, 2006 at 4:18 amAnother Amercian who thinks he owns the world… nice
December 14th, 2006 at 4:53 amThe fine is too much, some sites may not even be earning that much.
http://www.tekno-world.blogspot.com
December 14th, 2006 at 5:38 amthis shitbag should be neutered. Bloody fascist !!!
December 14th, 2006 at 5:39 amAnd this guy wants to be our leader?
Let’s hope he a non starter, like every other republican should be after these last 6 years!
I do not care how one spins there belief’s when it comes down to republicans there all a bunch of christian fascist and I don’t care if they serviced there country and paid a price or not!
I don’t quote a republican often these days but Chris Shaw said it best…
“This Republican Party of Lincoln has become a party of Theocracy.” - U.S. Representative Christopher Shays, R-CT, March 22, 2005
So what is a Theocracy in the mind of a republican such as those that John McCain is bent on pleasing…
In there own words…
Theocracy is derived from the two Greek words Qeo/j(Theos) meaning “God” and kra/tein (cratein) meaning “to rule.” The Reverend Rod Parsley, a champion of theocracy, or what he calls a “christocracy,” told his congregation at the World Harvest Church, located just outside Columbus, Ohio,
“Theocracy means God is in control, and you are not.”
The theocratic right seeks to establish dominion, or control over society in the name of God. D. James Kennedy, Pastor of Coral Ridge Ministries, calls on his followers to exercise “godly dominion … over every aspect … of human society.” At a “Reclaiming America for Christ” conference in February, 2005, Kennedy said:
Our job is to reclaim America for Christ, whatever the cost. As the vice regents of God, we are to exercise godly dominion and influence over our neighborhoods, our schools, our government, our literature and arts, our sports arenas, our entertainment media, our news media, our scientific endeavors — in short, over every aspect and institution of human society.
Twenty-five years ago dominionists targeted the Republican Party as the vehicle through which they could advance their agenda. At the same time, a small group of Republican strategists targeted fundamentalist, Pentecostal and charismatic churches to expand the base of the Republican Party. This web site is not about traditional Republicans or conservative Christians. It is about the manipulation of people of a certain faith for political power. It is about the rise of dominionists in the U.S. federal government.
Today’s hard right seeks total dominion. It’s packing the courts and rigging the rules. The target is not the Democrats but democracy itself.
According to acclaimed journalist and television host Bill Moyers,
True, people of faith have always tried to bring their interpretation of the Bible to bear on American laws and morals … it’s the American way, encouraged and protected by the First Amendment. But what is unique today is that the radical religious right has succeeded in taking over one of America’s great political parties. The country is not yet a theocracy but the Republican Party is, and they are driving American politics, using God as a a battering ram on almost every issue: crime and punishment, foreign policy, health care, taxation, energy, regulation, social services and so on.
If you want more google “theocracywatch.org”
Bottom line fascism is on the rise in America!
December 14th, 2006 at 6:41 amSo what. You can’t say “I hate Bush” anymore? If that’s McCain’s plan, maybe he should migrate to North-Korea.
December 14th, 2006 at 7:19 amI’m so glad I’m Canadian and don’t have to deal with douche bag politicians making douche bag policies. More people need to stand up against these conservatives, the U.S.A. is slowly turning into a fascist state. Progressive? If anything this is a step backwards…reminds me of a certain leader…what was his name again…Oh yeah. Hitler.
December 14th, 2006 at 8:10 am[…] [Source] […]
December 14th, 2006 at 8:22 amHe can introduce it all he wants. That does not mean it will pass. With a Democratic-controlled House, it will never fly.
McCain is becoming more and more of a hateful figure. He kisses Bush’s ass; he kisses the religious wackos’asses; he is war-mongering; and he is clearly a fascist intent on eliminating freedom of speech.
December 14th, 2006 at 8:26 am