Best-selling novelist Michael Crichton is a vocal critic of global warming science. His 2004 novel State of Fear depicts global warming as a hoax concocted by environmentalists to raise money. In January 2005, Crichton spent an hour talking with President Bush; the two were “in near-total agreement,” according to Weekly Standard editor Fred Barnes.
Last March, New Republic senior editor Michael Crowley wrote a cover story called “Jurassic President: Michael Crichton’s Scariest Creation.” It highlighted Crichton’s junk science and the danger posed by President Bush adopting it.
Crichton’s response was to smear Crowley in his latest novel, Next, by writing in a character named “Mick Crowley” who rapes a two-year-old boy. The following is a graphic excerpt from Crichton’s novel (reader beware):
Alex Burnet was in the middle of the most difficult trial of her career, a rape case involving the sexual assault of a two-year-old boy in Malibu. The defendant, thirty-year-old Mick Crowley, was a Washington-based political columnist who was visiting his sister-in-law when he experienced an overwhelming urge to have anal sex with her young son, still in diapers. Crowley was a wealthy, spoiled Yale graduate and heir to a pharmaceutical fortune. …
It turned out Crowley’s taste in love objects was well known in Washington, but [his lawyer]–as was his custom–tried the case vigorously in the press months before the trial, repeatedly characterizing Alex and the child’s mother as “fantasizing feminist fundamentalists” who had made up the whole thing from “their sick, twisted imaginations.” This, despite a well-documented hospital examination of the child. (Crowley’s penis was small, but he had still caused significant tears to the toddler’s rectum.)
The real-life Michael Crowley is also a Washington journalist and also graduated from Yale.
The New York Times reports, “Mr. Crichton could not be reached yesterday for comment, and a publicist at his publisher, HarperCollins, did not return calls.” In an article posted today, Crowley says he is “strangely flattered” by the reference: “If someone offers substantive criticism of an author, and the author responds by hitting below the belt, as it were, then he’s conceding that the critic has won.”
TPM Muckraker has more.
kudos, mr. chrichton. how is life on the dark side?
December 14th, 2006 at 1:36 pmDear God…
No wonder Jason M. Hendler is so irretrievably childish…with this as his role model, he never stood a chance.
Kudos to Crowley for being so gracious, but Crichton needs to be sued, if only as an object lesson.
December 14th, 2006 at 1:37 pmJurasic President–Michael Crigthon’s most frightening creation… now that’s funny.
December 14th, 2006 at 1:37 pmMichael Crichton is a tiny man.
December 14th, 2006 at 1:37 pmI will never look at Jurassic Park in the same way.
WTF was Chrichton thinking? Rape a 2 year old? How is that even possible? What a weirdo!
December 14th, 2006 at 1:40 pmWhat a moron. As musch as I hate burning books, I think I am going to cull my library of anything written by him.
December 14th, 2006 at 1:41 pmIn the words of the late, dearly departed, Peter “Frank Barone” Boyle, “HOLY CRAP!”
December 14th, 2006 at 1:42 pmNow I know not to buy any book or see any movie with Crichton’s name attached. Mr. Crowley is indeed being exceedingly gracious. And if that excerpt is indicative of overall writing style, Crichton’s “piece of work” would earn no more than a “D” in a junior-high school creative writing class.
December 14th, 2006 at 1:43 pmWhat is it with conservatives’ fascination with sex with young boys? This list just seems to go on and on. Makes one wonder if they ever think about anything else.
December 14th, 2006 at 1:44 pmWell, there’s one good thing that may come of this…this should seriously discredit Crichton and his ridiculous junk science, at least for a little while.
Still waiting to hear from Jason M. Hendler on this one…I wonder, will he attempt to defend his idol, or simply offer to ‘kick my dirt ass’?
December 14th, 2006 at 1:46 pmLook up the Tony Twist v. Todd McFarlane case.
Comic creator Todd McFarlane created a villainous character and named it after the real-life hockey player. Twist sued for defamation and won several million dollars.
Think Crowley’s got a case?
December 14th, 2006 at 1:48 pmWTF was Chrichton thinking? Rape a 2 year old? How is that even possible? What a weirdo!
Comment by kelso
Take it from a former felony court clerk — you don’t want to know.
December 14th, 2006 at 1:49 pmAll I can say is, wow.
Wow.
December 14th, 2006 at 1:49 pmLook up the Tony Twist v. Todd McFarlane case.
Comic creator Todd McFarlane created a villainous character and named it after the real-life hockey player. Twist sued for defamation and won several million dollars.
Think Crowley’s got a case?
[Sorry if this double-posts; my original comment didn't seem to go thru.]
December 14th, 2006 at 1:50 pmIf Michael Crichton believes the science of Global Warming is junk let him submit his own scientific research. Then let his paper be reviewed by scientific peers. If his work is sound he can change the current scientific model. If his work is junk he’ll be chewed up and spit out. Right now I think there are almost 1000 scientifc papers supporting global warming and man’s role in contributing to it. Not one paper has been able to dispute this model.
These bozos are simply having a fit because science will not bend to their childish wishes and dreams. Unlike the daily headlines in newspapers and newscasts that they can manipulate….They cannot manipulate science…and this sends them into tantrums.
December 14th, 2006 at 1:52 pmSimple solution, don’t buy the book. And if there comes a movie, don’t see it.
The discussion as it is now will only help the book sales. I worked in advertising and PR and know that the axiom “All publicity is good publicity” is absolutely true.
I appeal to your good senses. Scratch Crichton and his dubious motives off of your book club list and move on.
December 14th, 2006 at 1:56 pmIn an article posted today, Crowley says he is “strangely flattered†by the reference: “If someone offers substantive criticism of an author, and the author responds by hitting below the belt, as it were, then he’s conceding that the critic has won.â€
Crowley doesn’t have to sue — he’s already won.
December 14th, 2006 at 1:56 pmEvery time this is brought up in the media, Crowley wins.
re: #7 What a moron. As musch as I hate burning books, I think I am going to cull my library of anything written by him.
Comment by Rebel In CA
I agree completely. After the last Crichton book, I vowed never to buy or read a borrowed book of his ever again. Now I vow to throw out the few Crichton books I have AND spread the word to everyone I know about how he is a misguided jerk.
December 14th, 2006 at 1:57 pmI haven’t read the book (and from the excerpt, I don’t think I will), don’t know what’s before or after the quote, but it reads very strained and forced. It seems to break whatever narrative Crichton had until that point.
What a gratuitous passage in a book, and what a weird smear.
Crichton is simply going unhinged.
December 14th, 2006 at 2:01 pmWhat is truly sad is that this was the same author who wrote the excellent novels The Andromeda Strain, Rising Sun, and Jurassic Park.
Somewhere along the way Crichton lost his critical thinking skills and became a panderer to right leaning politics. Pity.
At least Clancy remained technically accurate.
December 14th, 2006 at 2:10 pmGood Morning all, good posts, disgusting subject’s, not a bit suprised at any thing or any one bull shit bush is associated with….I believe in free speech so writing these dreadful book’s should not be banned but serfice to say I would never buy this trash…..
Zooey’s right about terrible crimes…..Last year a miserable specamin of the human race was sentanced and put in prison for attempting to rape his own 2 month old daughter here in Wash. State…Thankfuly the wife of the offender caught him and helped put him away…. People do dreadful thing’s, look at bush….Blessings
December 14th, 2006 at 2:11 pmGod, that’s some of the worst prose I’ve ever read. People actually read entire books of that stuff?
December 14th, 2006 at 2:13 pmI wish there were a word that could sum how incredibly awesome I found Crowley’s reaction to Crichton’s slander. Mature, insightful AND incisive. But since no one word will do, “Zing!” will have to suffice.
December 14th, 2006 at 2:18 pmHigh level literature.
December 14th, 2006 at 2:22 pmMichael Crichton, apparently suffering from a burn out of creative energy, spent an hour with the pResident nearly a year ago, and the two were in (near) complete agreement.
December 14th, 2006 at 2:27 pmIn exchange for Crichton’s parroting of the oil/drug/weapons industries position on global climate change, he was guaranteed to have an entire wing of the GW Bush Memorial Library filled with his books.
He was also granted a staff writers position to craft the pResidents legacy. To which Mr. Crichton responded with:
“Oh goody, no research necessary!”
The journalist could write extensively about pop lit. authors who slander via their undisguised fictional character assassinations.
December 14th, 2006 at 2:31 pmA BOOK WRITTEN FOR REPUBLICANS – THE PARTY OF CHILDABUSERS.
December 14th, 2006 at 2:31 pmIn good clinical psychologic research it is clear and now proven what Chrichton has on his mind. Can’t excuse yourself with literary freedom here. The thought alone is sick, yet to write something like this and PRINT IT is not only sick but true CHILD PORNOGRAPHY. Where we would be at the beginning of my statement. Chrichton caters to dumb right wing people who believe Global Warming doesn’t take place. Those can be found entirely and exclusively amongst Republicans. Ergo:
REPUBLICANS – PARTY OF CHILDABUSERS.
Where is MacKain now? WHERE???
Maybe that T-Rex in Jurassic Park was actually his mother.
December 14th, 2006 at 2:32 pmWhen I was a teenager I read the book Andromena Strain, Chricton’s first big hit. It was clear to me even then he was a worshipper of authoritarian government. So this position of his doesn’t surprise me.
December 14th, 2006 at 2:37 pmWhy would Michael Crichton’s readers be interested in the size of the penis of a man who raped a 2-year-old boy? Sounds like Crichton goes absolutely psycho when criticized.
December 14th, 2006 at 2:44 pmI hate to admit it, but I’ve read almost every Chricton book up to, but not including State of Fear. He’s either turned into a sick pig or he always was. I don’t know. I do know he’s been married many times and that never speaks well for a man. I will never, ever buy a Crichton book again. I don’t even know anyone who will buy a Chrichton book anymore. It’s very strange. People who read books are overwhelmingly more intelligent and marginally more liberal than the general population. Chrichton has just been crapping on his core demographic now for a couple of years. Again, a sick pig.
December 14th, 2006 at 2:54 pmPardon me while I throw up.
It helped a little, but I still feel a bit queazy.
I’d rather live on Discworld.
December 14th, 2006 at 2:59 pmOh, sorry, everybody…for the triple post.
December 14th, 2006 at 3:03 pmHowever, it shows the disgraceful role that literature seems to be taking in Crichton´s POV.
Glad I don’t read them there books.
December 14th, 2006 at 3:03 pmJust goes to prove that Chrichton is the biggest prick.
December 14th, 2006 at 3:04 pmi wouldnt be surprised if crichton stole this passage from a 13 year writing on myspace about some other kid he hated in geometry class because the smarter kid exposed him as a dummy.
December 14th, 2006 at 3:04 pmIt reads like thats going to be one pretty horrible book. Can I ask a favor?
Please don’t give Michael Crighton any more publicity. Thanks
December 14th, 2006 at 3:08 pmWhat do you think how many republicans will jerk off while they read the ‘child rape’ chapter over and over again?
December 14th, 2006 at 3:09 pmsounds to me like he’s projecting. Why is it the people who claim to be repulsed by deviant sex are the ones who spend the most time thinking about deviant sex?
December 14th, 2006 at 3:11 pmhttp://www.michaelcrichton.net/fans/index.html
check it out.. the Administrator of his message board is a pre-pubescent boy
December 14th, 2006 at 3:15 pminfo@crichton-official.com
December 14th, 2006 at 3:17 pmwhoops// wrong address.. mail your fan pixs here
fanpixs@crichton-official.com
December 14th, 2006 at 3:21 pmOkay, let me put it like this:
December 14th, 2006 at 3:22 pmIf we were to make a movie, and in that movie a child raper appears, and cut we sit in a courthouse and the childraper explains what he did to a child, and cut – we see the actual act of child rape – cut back into court room. Would that not be considered ‘child pornography’? What’s the difference between a written or a visual creation of a scene that is child pornography? I am a writer in my native language for 30 years but I have never heard of anything even getting close to this. Only if you read the real life case records of people who were involved in child rape or pornography which is basically the same. This sick excuse of a writer needs to go to jail, or is anybody here that doubts if I write a graphic chapter about torturing e.g. Jews to death, I wouldn’t go to jail?
Whoa, TP, you deleted my comment just because I said “prick”?! C’mon, I’ve said lots worse!
December 14th, 2006 at 3:24 pmIf you give a million monkeys a million keyboards… one will eventually type the words – “The defendant, thirty-year-old Mick Crowley, was a Washington-based political columnist who was visiting his sister-in-law when he experienced an overwhelming urge to have anal sex with her young son, still in diapers.”
December 14th, 2006 at 3:27 pmFace it, Crichton is a hack and a poor one at that. His novels are unimaginative, appealing to the most base phobias of the ignorant concerning science, and written for morons who never read except when they’re stuck on a plane.
December 14th, 2006 at 3:30 pm#43 Jane you just said “prick” again… oops I just said “prick” too… oops there it goes again!
December 14th, 2006 at 3:32 pmWhy is that the only people who fantasize about raping little boys are Republicans?
December 14th, 2006 at 3:33 pmPost #25 UPDATE!
December 14th, 2006 at 3:36 pmWarehouse workers at Michael Crichtons publisher were dismayed to learn that all unsold copies of the authors books were to be donated to the GW Busch Memorial Library. Said a spokesman:
“One of our bennies here is that we are allowed to take all unsalable books home for the wood stove, this is a big hit coming just before Christmas and all…….”
Jane – I don’t know what’s going on… I just said prick a couple of times and that comment went through – but immediately before I wrote a post without any questionable language and it did not get through… go figure?
December 14th, 2006 at 3:39 pmCould what he wrote be considered “child porn” under any existing laws, federal, state or local? Is there any way he or his publisher could be arrested anywhere for distributing child pornography? I know that visual depictions are illegal but are written narratives?
December 14th, 2006 at 3:41 pmHow does a respected sci-fi author turn into such a scumbag?
December 14th, 2006 at 3:58 pmGeez. I hope he gets his ass sued into bankruptcy over this.
GW, thanks for the laugh! I’m used to the delay in posts showing up, but mine was originally number 12, and I had been surprised that, for once, it showed up immediately. Now it’s gone.
December 14th, 2006 at 4:05 pmTwo things:
1) I have rarely read a worse book than Crichton’s ‘Prey’. Puke-tastic. Went into the recycling bin. I suppose the rest ain’t better.
2)
December 14th, 2006 at 4:19 pm2006 was Earth’s sixth warmest year on record – official. Finally we can get rid of those ugly sweaters!
The writing in State of Fear and Next is very different from Sphere, Congo, Jurassic Park and different from Andromeda Strain. I think there isn’t really a guy named Michael Crichton. I think he’s a fictional author and the publisher hires ghosts to write the novels.
December 14th, 2006 at 4:19 pmCan we get a link to that New Republic article that doesn’t make us subscribe?
December 14th, 2006 at 4:21 pmThat’s just bad writing… Even without the really perverted overtones.
With the perversion, it’s not only disgusting, but juvenile and spiteful. Makes me want to unread the books of his that I have read in the past…
December 14th, 2006 at 4:27 pmWhoa, TP, you deleted my comment just because I said “prick�! C’mon, I’ve said lots worse!
Comment by JaneESchneider
Foul! I’ve never deleted just because I said prick. I say prick all the time! Jane, I truly disagree that you were deleted just because you said prick.
Heh. Welcome to the Deleted Club, it’s not very exclusive, but I need more company. :)
December 14th, 2006 at 4:30 pmWhat a moron. As musch as I hate burning books, I think I am going to cull my library of anything written by him.
Comment by Rebel In CA — December 14, 2006 @ 1:41 pm
I’ll go buy some of his books just to burn them!
(This is a joke trolls…)
December 14th, 2006 at 4:30 pmSorry, I forgot:
ITS KUST KARMA
December 14th, 2006 at 4:36 pmSorry, I forgot:
IT’S JUST KARMA
December 14th, 2006 at 4:36 pmI’ve been working on a song about an author named Michael Kryton who has sex orgies at the White House with male prostitutes.
December 14th, 2006 at 4:37 pmWhoa, TP, you deleted my comment just because I said “prick�! C’mon, I’ve said lots worse!
Comment by JaneESchneider — December 14, 2006 @ 3:24 pm
That’s harsh…
prick [prik] verb
to pierce slightly or stick a sharp point into
December 14th, 2006 at 4:38 pmExample: She pricked her finger on a pin; He pricked a hole in the paper.
Crowley should sue Crichton for libel and clean him out.
I used to like Chichtons books long ago, but not anymore. He’s just another brain-dead Repuke idiot.
December 14th, 2006 at 4:40 pmI swear that there was nothing else wrong with my post. I was agreeing with Tripmaster about how Crowley should sue Crichton, and said that Crichton was being an immature prick. I also commented that that’s probably why Crichton and Bush like each other, or something like that.
I really was being good, really! ;-) Not that I’m not proud to be a part of the TP Deleted Club, Zooey, but I’m already a member!
December 14th, 2006 at 4:44 pmYou know, Alan Moore had something to say along these lines.
Dante Alighieri is the canonical example of a bard getting sweet revenge on his critics, even down through the ages. Michael Crichton, however, is no Dante Alighieri.
December 14th, 2006 at 4:45 pmNot that I’m not proud to be a part of the TP Deleted Club, Zooey, but I’m already a member!
Comment by JaneESchneider
Just renewing your membership, then?
A Prick and a Bush — good one, Jane.
December 14th, 2006 at 4:50 pmDante Alighieri is the canonical example of a bard getting sweet revenge on his critics, even down through the ages. Michael Crichton, however, is no Dante Alighieri.
Comment by grendelkhan
Oh. Hell. No.
December 14th, 2006 at 4:52 pmIt’s close… TP needs your vote:
http://2006.weblogawards.org/2006/12/best_liberal_blog.php
December 14th, 2006 at 4:55 pmThis should be a forum in good tradition with
democratic values and educated manners.
I have to apologize and excuse my self when
I lost my temper in the past because of the
willful ignorance and insulting stupidity of
some people that abuse this board,
hi-jacking threads with their distractful
and obcene annoyance, in order to follow
a wrongful right wing policy of people, who
have wrongfully entered positions from which
they abuse practically the whole planet.
But I don’t want to give Adolf’s followers
the pleasure to draw me down into the
filthiest and darkest regions of human misery.
A good Language is most valuable when
one is confronted with posts from
© The Dark Side Of Human Evolution
It’s always a great pleasure to get through
to the well educated and critical human mind,
with a sense of humor that is not based on the
expense of others.
It’s just Karma
December 14th, 2006 at 4:56 pmYay. I can toss all those old Crichton novels in the trash. After an author turns bad, there’s no way I’ll go back and re-read his books.
December 14th, 2006 at 5:04 pmUnb, can we ‘vote early and vote often’? I voted earlier, can I then vote ‘often-er’?
December 14th, 2006 at 5:26 pmUnb, can we ‘vote early and vote often’? I voted earlier, can I then vote ‘often-er’?
Comment by JaneESchneider — December 14, 2006 @ 5:26 pm
Once you vote, it locks you out for 24 hours before you can vote again… So I guess often-er is subjective :)
December 14th, 2006 at 5:40 pm“That’s harsh…
prick [prik] verb
to pierce slightly or stick a sharp point into
Example: She pricked her finger on a pin; He pricked a hole in the paper.”
Comment by unbelievable — December 14, 2006 @ 4:38 pm
“By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes.” Hey, if “prick” was good enough for Shakespeare, why not TP?
December 14th, 2006 at 5:54 pmBad move, Crichton. Crowley buys his 55-gallon drums of ink in much greater quantities than you and I’m sure he gets a better price break on them. He publishes a lot more often than you do, too, and his genre isn’t fiction. I hope he sues the living crap out of you.
December 14th, 2006 at 5:55 pmThis is why I don’t read Michael Crichton. That and the fact that his books suck. And if I were Crowley, I’d be suing for defamation of character.
December 14th, 2006 at 6:29 pmOver the years, I’ve read quite a few of Crichton’s books. I’ve enjoyed reading them until I read “State of Fear”. The book irratated me. I had a difficult job sticking with it. Found myself disagreeing with the concepts presented in the book, and left me with a nagging unrest from reading it. Actual told a few friends, not to bother to read it.
December 14th, 2006 at 6:42 pmThis article just justified my feelings about the book, that it sucked and I’ll save my money by not buying anymore books by Crichton.
Sounds like Crichton got some ‘o dem dere soybean genes mixed up wit’ his dyno-sawr DNA down in dat Jer-hat-stick Park
December 14th, 2006 at 7:23 pm[...] This is pretty wild: Journalist Critical Of Climate Skeptic Michael Crichton Written Into Crichton Novel As Child Rapist. [...]
December 14th, 2006 at 7:32 pmSo, obviously, Bush has photos of Crichton having sex with Jeff Gannon.
December 14th, 2006 at 7:47 pmWell, considering Crichton wrote the scientifically accurate “Jurassic Park” we should probably listen to him. I am not saying he is a tool, or anything.
December 14th, 2006 at 11:12 pm#69 He has always been bad. His escapist crap makes me want to escape from his escapist crap.
December 14th, 2006 at 11:17 pmI’ve been working on a song about an author named Michael Kryton who has sex orgies at the White House with male prostitutes.
Comment by Mike D —
I very much look forward to hearing it, Mike D.
December 15th, 2006 at 5:38 amBy the way, the only Crichton book I have read was “Rising Sun.” Since I have lived in Japan and am familiar with the way Japanese people talk, I thought it was terrible in a cartoonish way.
Hmmm… Crichton also writes a lot of scripts for TV, look for the credits, and you will be shocked…
December 15th, 2006 at 8:26 am[...] By MediaChannel. Science fiction novelist Michael Crichton, author of Jurassic Park, Andromeda, and last year’s global warming skeptic screed State of Fear, has responded to The New Republic senior editor Michael Crowley in prose in his latest book. The New York Times coverage is somewhat tame compared to ThinkProgress, who go right to the excerpt: Last March, New Republic senior editor Michael Crowley wrote a cover story called “Jurassic President: Michael Crichton’s Scariest Creation.†It highlighted Crichton’s junk science and the danger posed by President Bush adopting it. [...]
December 15th, 2006 at 9:32 amMichael Crichton, I Used To Respect Thee…
I used to like Michael Crichton. He was one of the authors my dad used to get me into reading. I loved (and still love) The Andromeda Strain and Sphere. Jurassic Park was great fun (and a fun movie). Congo was a fun read although weaker. But at some p…
December 15th, 2006 at 12:39 pm[...] Think Progress… repeatedly characterizing Alex and the child’s mother as “fantasizing feminist fundamentalists†who had made up the whole thing from “their sick, … Source http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/14/crichton-critic/ [...]
December 18th, 2006 at 11:05 amI love it. Anyone with a blog or newspaper is allowed to use that medium to bash Mr. Crichton – but the moment he uses his own medium to do some bashing back he is vilified. Hypocrisy at its apex.
December 20th, 2006 at 12:30 pmErrr…This a big distinction between criticism, mindless bashing, and mindless bashing in which you call your critic a pedophile. Like most on the right, your intellect is too feeble to grasp even this least subtle of distinctions.
December 20th, 2006 at 7:52 pm[...] Crichton: novelist, global warming denier, and now, complete whacko. Jump to Comments In latest novel, Crichton names child rapist character after critic. WAY over the line,Mike. [...]
January 2nd, 2007 at 3:42 pm[...] Think Progress… repeatedly characterizing Alex and the child???s mother as ???fantasizing feminist fundamentalists??? who had made up the whole thing from ???their sick, … Source http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/14/crichton-critic/ [...]
January 3rd, 2007 at 2:27 pmMick Crowley is a child rapist
January 6th, 2007 at 4:07 pmSuing an author over an immature, thinly veiled insult accomplishes nothing. Nor can the description be considered child pornography, as some avenue of discussion of what is a very serious topic must be allowed in an open, democratic society. Also, just because Crichton has thought about a topic in no way indicates that he has similar urges himself. Sexual deviants are found in all sectors of society, as sad as it is. Republicanism does not equal child molestation. For the record, I am as liberal a democrat as you can find. But I believe in democracy, not in intimidating the press’s freedoms through frivolous lawsuits. Crichton’s characterizations have always been 2-dimensional, but his ideas are usually provocative. As I am not a scientist, and I doubt that most of the people on this board are, I would be hard pressed to make a substantive argument regarding global warming, one way or the other. I know that there are some problems with the theory, but problems plague theories in all branches of science, and this alone does not discredit a theory. Even evolution, the best proven theory, still has problems that need to be addressed. But global warming issues aside, pollution is clearly a huge problem and our society needs to drastically reduce its output of toxins into the environment. In any case, Michael Crichton is an author who put a lot of thought into his argument and the arguments against his ideas should be backed-up by evidence, not playground insults. I would agree that this argument should be continued in the scientific literature, not in Senate appearences or visits with the president.
January 23rd, 2007 at 6:07 pm