With Mary Cheney Pregnant, Bush Won’t Say Whether He Still Opposes Gay Adoption
With Mary Cheney Pregnant, Bush Won’t Say Whether He Still Opposes Gay Adoption
As a presidential candidate in 1999, Bush stated his unequivocal opposition to gay adoption. From the AP, 3/23/99:
Bush said he opposes allowing gay couples to adopt. “I believe children ought to be adopted in families with a woman and a man who are married,” he said Monday.
The governor also declined to take a position on whether children already adopted by gays or lesbians should be removed from those homes. “I have no idea whether the children ought to be removed or not removed,” he said. “The question is whether I’m for gay adoption. And the answer is, I’m not.”
Then Mary Cheney, Vice President Cheney’s daughter, got pregnant. The child will be raised by Mary Cheney and her partner Heather Poe. ABC News asked the White House “over and over, if the President, as he declared in 1999, still opposed same sex couples adopting children.” The White House would not answer.
Here’s what Bush had to say a few days ago to People Magazine:
The Vice President took me aside and gave me the good news. He and his wife, Lynne, are very happy for Mary I think Mary is going to be a loving soul to her child. And I’m happy for her.
There must be something about Mary.
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I think john avarosis said that 1 of 4 gays votes rethug. Gotta wonder what is wrong those people.
December 15th, 2006 at 11:01 amHow will Bush play this with the “base”? Seems like they would be pretty disillusioned if they got the whole story. Of course they have had quiet a few “disillusionments†lately with Ted Haggard and others being outed.
December 15th, 2006 at 11:03 amThoes gays are bringin’ on the end-times.
sarcasm off now.
December 15th, 2006 at 11:04 amThe Vice President took me aside and gave me the good news. He and his wife, Lynne, are very happy for Mary I think Mary is going to be a loving soul to her child. And I’m happy for her.
Of course, being the daughter of a far-right Republican vice president and his far-right Republican softcore porn author wife, she would naturally be a loving soul to her child. All other children born or raised in the homes of same-sex couples must be taken away from those godless hedonists as soon as possible. Why? Because the right doesn’t believe that any of the rules or laws or moral values they impose on the rest of the country should have to apply to themselves. They’re special that way.
Answer the goddam question, you hypocritical jerk!!!
December 15th, 2006 at 11:07 amGDumbya just doesn’t have time to push the anti-gay adoption agenda right now.
First of all, he is very busy looking for a “strategery for success” in Iraq — he’s only about three years late on that one.
Secondly, the anti-gay adoption issue is being preserved for 2007 and the next election cycle. Rove says it will help the Repubs retain the White House and regain Congress.
December 15th, 2006 at 11:09 amNotice that Bush didn’t say anything about the babies OTHER mother, Heather!! He didn’t declare that he thought Heather would be a loving soul or that he was happy for her……
And, his quote from 1999 sounds to me like Bush opposes adoption by gays and also by single heteros.
December 15th, 2006 at 11:11 amBush: He and his wife, Lynne, are very happy for Mary I think Mary is going to be a loving soul to her child. And I’m happy for her.….but that Heather Poe can go suck an egg.
December 15th, 2006 at 11:15 amGee, a holy roller contradicting themselves. Next you’ll tell me the sky is blue and the sun is hot.
December 15th, 2006 at 11:16 amWhere are all the Trolls today on this topic? Nothing to say? Hypocritical thinking elicits no response?
Maybe Teddy Dobson can speak for them… or Pat Robertson. Or are they waiting for Tommy Boy Delay’s blog to ‘bring the truth’.
Tony Snow should have fun with this one!!!
December 15th, 2006 at 11:20 am#9 upside00
Where are all the Trolls today on this topic? Nothing to say? Hypocritical thinking elicits no response?
Daryll’s busy wrapping duct tape around his head to keep it from exploding.
December 15th, 2006 at 11:24 amGOPers are certified hypocrites on Gay issues, because they are against Gay couples raising children unless it’s one of their own family doing it! Mary is a member of the elite, so she gets special treatment, but everybody else can drop dead to them!
December 15th, 2006 at 11:25 amIn the end, who really cares what Dubya thinks? He is a lame duck and without his rabid hard-right Congress behind him he can’t do a damn thing about gay marriage, gay adoption, etc.
Yeah, it is interesting to see the moonbats’ reaction to Mary’s pregnancy, but what will be even more interesting is when one of the Bush girls gets knocked up (unmarried, of course, and probably while drunk) and wants to have an abortion!
December 15th, 2006 at 11:26 amChimpeach –
Maybe he is discussing this with his brother Daryll…… and his other brother Daryll.
December 15th, 2006 at 11:26 amTypical Bush… “just because he said it doesn’t mean he said it.”
December 15th, 2006 at 11:27 amMaybe Dubious is going to try and convince his radical rabid evangelibase that this is the second coming, Mary being with child, and having no husband……………
December 15th, 2006 at 11:38 am#7:”… but that Heather Poe can go suck an egg. “ – - At this stage, I’m pretty sure she’s already done that with Mary.
December 15th, 2006 at 11:39 amGDumbya is probably pretty smug about Mary Cheney’s situation. He knows that his own drunken slut twins will get pregnant the old-fashioned way. Who knows? Perhaps one or both already has had an abortion (or two). That’d make GDumbya proud. Kinda like that girlfriend he had in college . . . the one for which he had to pay for an abortion.
December 15th, 2006 at 11:54 amweird that he refers to her as a “loving soul” & not a “loving mother”
December 15th, 2006 at 11:56 amPerhaps the conception was immaculate. Otherwise, has anyone spoken with David Crosby recently?
December 15th, 2006 at 12:14 pm#17 Tom
GDumbya is probably pretty smug about Mary Cheney’s situation. He knows that his own drunken slut twins will get pregnant the old-fashioned way.
Maybe this will cause Laura and Dubya to adopt Brittany and Paris – then they would have a twin set of twins!
December 15th, 2006 at 12:19 pmOf course a big issue and a big fuss was made during last election’s debate between Senator Edward and Dick Cheney when the Senator mentioned that Cheney has a gay daughter….they called Edward all kind of names…and he was attacked by MRS. Cheney as an evil man…well, now we know not just his daughter was gay….but also getting pregrnant and and raising a baby with her partner. Poor Edwards crossed the line….!!
December 15th, 2006 at 12:33 pmThe current “conservative” philosophy on gays is the same as it is with any group (Muslims, Arabs, “brown” people, the poor) that they feel that they are morally and/or physically superior to: demonize, marginalize, and kill if the opportunity presents itself and you feel that you can get away with it (bonus points if you can get someone else to kill them for you).
It’s a sad and self-defeating philosophy and I for one will be happy as a clam when it is purged from our national consciousness. As for Mary Cheney, she deserves every ounce of the grief that she is now getting from her “friends”. She chose them, she backed them, and she ignored their hate and disgust for her and other gays while simultaneously doing their bidding and aiding them in acquiring and maintaining power. My only hope is that the evil hypocrisy that both she and her father share is not genetic and won’t be passed on to the child.
As for those who hate gays and want to make their lives miserable, quit projecting and go get laid. Obviously, you need to.
December 15th, 2006 at 12:58 pmMary Cheney is gay because her father’s name is Dick.
December 15th, 2006 at 1:00 pmWhy should anyone be surprised at Bush’s response to Mary Cheney’s pregnancy? How often do you hear your average run-of-the-mill bigot say something like, “Yeah, ________ are no damn good, but my friend So-And-So is all right.” You actually hear that more often that you would expect, and this is just a variation on that theme. The bigot is either unable or unwilling to grasp the fact that their perception of _______ is based on an undeserved and prejudicial overgeneralization which no more applies to most ___________ than it applies to So-And-So — instead, the bigot chooses to believe that So-And-So is somehow an exception to the rule and therefore exempt from prejudicial treatment. Sadly, their acquaintance with So-And-So usually isn’t enough to change their prejudicial views — instead, they condescendingly believe that their prejudicial views simply don’t apply to So-And-So by virtue of their acquaintance. In this specific example, Dubya’s statement suggests that he considers Mary Cheney’s status as his Vice President’s daughter enough sanction to make it all right for her to raise a child with her partner although he disapproves of it for other lesbian couples.
December 15th, 2006 at 1:03 pm1 in 4 = 25%
Bush’s approval rating = 32%
The 25% of gays are in the same group as Bush’s fanatical followers. It just goes to prove that being gay doesn’t make you any smarter than a dumb red neck.
December 15th, 2006 at 1:14 pmI love this one! Nothing like being caught in a lie, is there? He’s damned if he does/damned if he doesn’t….hahahaha! Watching a worm squirm is soooo sweet.
December 15th, 2006 at 1:32 pm“I think john avarosis said that 1 of 4 gays votes rethug. Gotta wonder what is wrong those people.”
Self-loathing and Daddy issues.
December 15th, 2006 at 2:11 pmHey “whacky right”, you gotta love Cheney right? He’s your guy. Remember when his old lady slammed John Kerry for making a comment about the gay daugther and you goofs rallied behind her? What a slap in the face, the cheney baby. Tony Perkins, you out there?? c’mon guys, where are you when we need you??
December 15th, 2006 at 2:29 pmThey are against many things until of course one of their own wants it for themselves. These people have no solid convictions. The rules are for the little people.
December 15th, 2006 at 2:29 pmIt’s easier when it’s some non-specific “gay folks” out there in Blue State land somewhere. It’s harder when you meet a person and actually get to know them.
Is there anything to be read into his phrase “I think Mary is going to be a loving soul to her child”? Soul as opposed to parent or mother? Cuz whatever her partner’s status may be towards the child, Mary is going to be his/her mother, unequivocally.
December 15th, 2006 at 3:00 pmQuack, quack….
December 15th, 2006 at 3:01 pm“A loving soul” = Bless her heart….
Run for the hills, Mary.
December 15th, 2006 at 3:11 pmIs there any opposition to a hetero couple adopting a gay child? Or a single person adopting a gay dog? How far does this opposition go here?
December 15th, 2006 at 3:49 pmWhat about growing a gay plant?
Catch and release, Truth.
If you find out the kid is gay, you can throw ‘em back in the pond.
December 15th, 2006 at 4:39 pmHe was against it, before he was for it!!!!
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The trolls have been notably silent on this thread today. But then trolling decreased as the mood went sour over Iraq, and even more after Republicans lost the mid-term elections.
It is worth stating that the very same laws banning same-sex marriage that were championed by the Republicans have finally come home to roost for Mary Cheney: She was involved in helping her father during his 2004 campaign, and has refused to speak publicly about gay rights.
Why would any gay or lesbian vote for the very people who enact the laws that make them second-class citizens is a mystery to me. In Mary Cheney’s case, I understand that blood is thicker than water, but still…
December 15th, 2006 at 7:43 pmThe lingering question is: Who’s the father. I think Heather Poe can be ruled out.
One thing is certain: George W. is not the father. Who would want a kid fathered by George? The kid would be lucky to have an IQ in the double digits.
Let’s hope the sperm bank isn’t run by ex-Bush administration officials. We can’t trust these folks with anything, including semen.
John
December 15th, 2006 at 8:08 pmWe can’t trust these folks with anything, including semen.
John
Not even their own…
December 15th, 2006 at 8:37 pmZooey,
You got that right.
No wonder the Republicans are against cloning. Who would want a clone of George W. Bush or Dick Cheney?
John
December 15th, 2006 at 8:58 pmSo….. If GW Bush has been against gay adoption since before he was in office and this story doesn’t involve adoption, I guess what you’re trying to tell us is you’ve run out of Bush news that has occurred this side of the millennium.
Thanks for keeping us informed ThinkRegress.
December 15th, 2006 at 9:47 pmAnswer the goddam question, you hypocritical jerk!!!
Comment by chimpeach
The biggest talent politicians have is taking as long as possible to NOT answer a yes or no question.
And I think its funny, you notice Bush avoided using the word “parent” to describe Cheney’s daughter’s relationship to her child.. most people would have said “I’m sure she will be a loving parent to her child”… Bush is desparately afraid of alienating the 20 percenter “red state loyalfist” crowd.
Its all he has left. Lets face it, dogmatic religious war zealots are about the only base he has left, other than the his “free-base”…
December 16th, 2006 at 5:56 amthis story doesn’t involve adoption…Thanks for keeping us informed ThinkRegress.
Comment by Tank
Your welcome. Right, it doesnt involve adoption because Cheney’s partner CAN’T adopt the child because of the very same politicians who cater to the knuckledraggers who keep her father in power. The hipocritical irony of it all ( I know the only irony you guys understand is depleted uranium, and hipocracy isnt a word that even exists in the right wing vocabulary) is that
her partner would almost certainly have adopted the child, to get the ability to make health decisions for her and whatnot, if it wasnt for daddy’s reichwing buddies..
Sorry to distract you from the bang up job YOUR commander in chief is doing in Iraq and the rest of the world.
Heres some nice articles for you to read about it.
“Specter of Iraqi proxy war spooks Washington” (Proxy is a big word Tanky, you comphrehende?)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061214/wl_mideast_afp/ussaudiiraqiran
“1.5 million people (4 percent of the population) flee Iraq”
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=8637
“U.S. commander: Iraqi province distrusts army, police ”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061215/pl_nm/iraq_usa_diyala_dc
“Tribal leaders don’t trust Iraq soldiers”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061215/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_iraq
On the other hand, I hear a professional wrestler who just came back from the green zone made some very positive comments about the situation….
I certainly think I’m not alone in my belief that a steroid addled man who gives other men wedgies for a living and wears diapers to work is a perfectly reliable and credible source of information.
December 16th, 2006 at 6:24 amWTF are you smoking?
Under what circumstances would Cheney’s partner be adopting the child if there was no barrier to doing this ?
You understand Cheney is the mother right ? It is already her child as per the whole childbirth exercise.
So unless she wants to put the child up for adoption to have it go to another couple which happens to be herself WTF is being denied to someone here ?
Generally the issue with gay rights is the rights that straight people have which gays do not. Try playing this situation out with Cheney’s girlfriend replaced with Cheney’s boyfriend. See how ridiculous you sound when you’re bitching about him being unable to adopt his girlfirend’s child.
December 17th, 2006 at 7:07 amAnd lay off the gear.
Tank,
You’re probably long gone, but here goes. Normally in this type situation, whether a gay or straight couple, the parent not giving birth to the child would adopt the child. It’s like a step-parent adoption. That way the child has two legally recognized parents, and both parents have rights and obligations to the child. And in the event of the parents splitting up, or the death of a parent, the child is on firm legal ground in regard to custody, child support and inheritance.
December 17th, 2006 at 12:51 pmRight so little miss Cheney would be in need of such a law so she can reduce her rights as a mother in the event of breakup (as is normal), claim child support from someone who’s not the parent (as normal), and because she’s someone who would otherwise have to draw up a will to accomplish the same thing (where would a VPs daughter find a lawyer).
Like I said… adoption doesn’t apply here. You may as complain little miss gay Cheney is hard done by offshore drilling rights.
December 17th, 2006 at 4:52 pmOk Tank, frickin’ nevermind. Have your little tantrum, or whatever it is you’re having.
My concern is for the child, and it’s best for the child that if Mary’s partner wants to adopt, she be allowed. I’ve only been involved in countless adoptions, divorces, custody actions, and probates, so what the f*ck would I know about anything?
Sorry, I tried to give you a little information on a non-emotional basis, and it apparently was not what you were looking for.
December 17th, 2006 at 8:03 pmChildren need a mother and a father……..not two mothers or two fathers………….gays shoulod not allowed to adopt any children…let them get a good dog or cat…………..
December 26th, 2006 at 6:24 pmWow….this is great! Finally, people are getting to see that Bush / Cheney and republicans are not the paragons of virtue and morality as they have tried to legislate from the start when they illegally seized political power over this nation in 2000. The republican party preyed upon the one dimensional voting habits of the religious right wing to assimilate them into their voter base in order to seize political power in 2000. That is because the religious right wing of this nation will vote for anyone who claims to be conservative, moral, Christian or against abortion. It must be difficult being a republican in 2007. To be a republican in 2007, you must concurrently believe the following. Jesus loves you but shares your same hatred of homosexuals and Hillary Clinton. Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you’re a conservative radio host. Then it’s an illness and you need our prayers for your recovery. Iran was a good country when Ford and Rumsfeld and Cheney, along with General Electric, gave them our nuclear technology in the 1970’s. Good guys when Cheney did business with them in the 1990’s. But, then bad guys when Bush junior needed a prop for his re-election campaign as the “war president”. Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which should include “banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet”. It’s OK to be republican lesbian but if you are Democrat then you are someone with a gay liberal agenda. God Bless America!!!
January 25th, 2007 at 11:27 am