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]]> By: bogey http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/comment-page-2/#comment-1333432 bogey Wed, 27 Dec 2006 02:07:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/#comment-1333432 "We didn’t get the government we deserve, not because we don’t deserve it, but because our winnner-take-all electoral system has become the exclusive playground of the major parties. " Nonsense. We didn't get the government we deserve, not because we don't deserve it, and not because of the 'electoral vote' system, but because the United States does not have <strong>OPEN, VERIFIABLE ELECTION BALLOTS.</strong> This government lets the 'computerized' voting stand. As someone else said out here earlier, "nuff said"... “We didn’t get the government we deserve, not because we don’t deserve it, but because our winnner-take-all electoral system has become the exclusive playground of the major parties. ”

Nonsense. We didn’t get the government we deserve, not because we don’t deserve it, and not because of the ‘electoral vote’ system, but because the United States does not have OPEN, VERIFIABLE ELECTION BALLOTS.

This government lets the ‘computerized’ voting stand. As someone else said out here earlier, “nuff said”…

]]> By: MediaChannel » The CIA and The White House Differ on Censorship of Leverett’s Op-Ed http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/comment-page-2/#comment-1311624 MediaChannel » The CIA and The White House Differ on Censorship of Leverett’s Op-Ed Fri, 22 Dec 2006 17:05:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/#comment-1311624 [...] By MediaChannel. http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003524632 http://tinyurl.com/y48m3u http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/ [...] [...] By MediaChannel. http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003524632 http://tinyurl.com/y48m3u http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/ [...]

]]> By: Jon Koppenhoefer http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/comment-page-2/#comment-1292699 Jon Koppenhoefer Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:24:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/#comment-1292699 The NYT has sure declined since the days of the Pentagon Papers. The "Gray Lady" is now Bush's toady. The NYT has sure declined since the days of the Pentagon Papers.

The “Gray Lady” is now Bush’s toady.

]]> By: Carl Street http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/comment-page-2/#comment-1291011 Carl Street Tue, 19 Dec 2006 16:38:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/#comment-1291011 Now that Rumsfield's minnie military strategy has proven to be both mickey mouse and full of bugs we have to ask oursevles was he daffy or just plain goofy... And, will he take responsibility or will Donald duck? BTW, BTW, BTW...that's all folks.... :) Now that Rumsfield’s minnie military strategy has proven to be both mickey mouse and full of bugs we have to ask oursevles was he daffy or just plain goofy… And, will he take responsibility or will Donald duck?

BTW, BTW, BTW…that’s all folks…. :)

]]> By: Think Progress » ThinkFast: December 19, 2006 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/comment-page-2/#comment-1290502 Think Progress » ThinkFast: December 19, 2006 Tue, 19 Dec 2006 14:37:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/#comment-1290502 [...] The Washington Post examines the apparent White House censorship of former Bush National Security Council Middle East Director Flynt Leverett, a story ThinkProgress first reported on Friday. [...] [...] The Washington Post examines the apparent White House censorship of former Bush National Security Council Middle East Director Flynt Leverett, a story ThinkProgress first reported on Friday. [...]

]]> By: bert http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/comment-page-2/#comment-1290204 bert Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:35:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/#comment-1290204 "According to Leverett the op-ed was “all based on stuff that Secretary Powell, Secretary Rice, Deputy Secretary Armitage have talked about publicly." I know! It's about WMD in Iraq! Nope, in Iran! both! Who cares? Lies, lies, lies, not a single true story came from both white house and the media since 2002... “According to Leverett the op-ed was “all based on stuff that Secretary Powell, Secretary Rice, Deputy Secretary Armitage have talked about publicly.”

I know! It’s about WMD in Iraq! Nope, in Iran! both!

Who cares? Lies, lies, lies, not a single true story came from both white house and the media since 2002…

]]> By: Think Progress » Snow Denies White House Censored Critic, Moments After Admitting He Didn’t ‘Know Anything About It’ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/comment-page-2/#comment-1287222 Think Progress » Snow Denies White House Censored Critic, Moments After Admitting He Didn’t ‘Know Anything About It’ Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:30:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/#comment-1287222 [...] Flynt Leverett, a Middle East analyst who served under President Bush on the National Security Council, revealed on Friday that the White House has been blocking the publication of an op-ed he wrote for the New York Times. The column is critical of the administration’s refusal to engage Iran. Leverett accused the White House of trying to “silence an established critic of the administration’s foreign policy incompetence.” (Steve Clemons, Christy Hardin Smith, and Juan Cole have more.) [...] [...] Flynt Leverett, a Middle East analyst who served under President Bush on the National Security Council, revealed on Friday that the White House has been blocking the publication of an op-ed he wrote for the New York Times. The column is critical of the administration’s refusal to engage Iran. Leverett accused the White House of trying to “silence an established critic of the administration’s foreign policy incompetence.” (Steve Clemons, Christy Hardin Smith, and Juan Cole have more.) [...]

]]> By: Worry Wart » Blog Archive » Extinguishing the Torch http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/comment-page-2/#comment-1286207 Worry Wart » Blog Archive » Extinguishing the Torch Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:40:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/#comment-1286207 [...] This is a good story to keep in mind when one reads the great flap about Flynt Leverette’s quashed Op-Ed piece. Leverette was an undersecretary in Bush’s administration who was in charge of Iran policy. And his piece is assumed to be a blistering indictment of the administration’s inept handling of Iran. The implications of snuffing out this important piece cannot be overstated. This is but the tiniest tip of a Titanic information - busting iceberg. [...] [...] This is a good story to keep in mind when one reads the great flap about Flynt Leverette’s quashed Op-Ed piece. Leverette was an undersecretary in Bush’s administration who was in charge of Iran policy. And his piece is assumed to be a blistering indictment of the administration’s inept handling of Iran. The implications of snuffing out this important piece cannot be overstated. This is but the tiniest tip of a Titanic information – busting iceberg. [...]

]]> By: steve http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/comment-page-2/#comment-1286113 steve Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:18:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/#comment-1286113 Two years ago I read an obscure story about how a giant pile of documents that had once been public domain began disappearing from the D.C. library where historians went to study them. These were all documents that were long ago classified, but were later were declassified. For example, one document was a CIA estimate dating from early in the Korean war concerning Chinese troop levels or effectiveness that materially underestimated their effect. It showed how seriously limited the skills of the CIA were in its early days. Turns out these documents were being reclassified. Why? There is absolutely no "national security" reason for it. Rather, the reason is because it is convenient for Bush to do so. To set a precedent. The obvious question at the time was "Why should we be concerned?" And the answer is that Bush is determined to write his own version of history - one that denies any inconvenient facts. Unfortunately for him, just about every fact contradicts his strange orthodoxy. His only hope is to nullify all known fact. It is a big effort, but he has been remarkably effective, at least in spots. This Op-Ed piece may be the most visible part of Bush trying to write a convenient, if fictional, history. But it is barely the tip of the iceberg. John Dean, in Worse than Watergate, argues that the path of democracy is dimly lit by the torch of information. And when the executive systematically and purposefully deceives and makes unavailable crucial information for making decisions, it extinguishes that torch. It is only a matter of time before democracy stumbles and falls. And who knows how far that fall might take her? Two years ago I read an obscure story about how a giant pile of documents that had once been public domain began disappearing from the D.C. library where historians went to study them. These were all documents that were long ago classified, but were later were declassified. For example, one document was a CIA estimate dating from early in the Korean war concerning Chinese troop levels or effectiveness that materially underestimated their effect. It showed how seriously limited the skills of the CIA were in its early days.

Turns out these documents were being reclassified. Why? There is absolutely no “national security” reason for it. Rather, the reason is because it is convenient for Bush to do so. To set a precedent.

The obvious question at the time was “Why should we be concerned?” And the answer is that Bush is determined to write his own version of history – one that denies any inconvenient facts. Unfortunately for him, just about every fact contradicts his strange orthodoxy. His only hope is to nullify all known fact. It is a big effort, but he has been remarkably effective, at least in spots.

This Op-Ed piece may be the most visible part of Bush trying to write a convenient, if fictional, history. But it is barely the tip of the iceberg. John Dean, in Worse than Watergate, argues that the path of democracy is dimly lit by the torch of information. And when the executive systematically and purposefully deceives and makes unavailable crucial information for making decisions, it extinguishes that torch. It is only a matter of time before democracy stumbles and falls. And who knows how far that fall might take her?

]]> By: Karim http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/comment-page-2/#comment-1285539 Karim Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:56:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/#comment-1285539 The neo-cons want to treat the first amendment like global warming. "What First Amendment?" The neo-cons want to treat the first amendment like global warming. “What First Amendment?”

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]]> By: mike mann http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/comment-page-2/#comment-1285319 mike mann Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:23:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/#comment-1285319 Look you guys. Havent you learned yet that if the jews in charge dont want anything printed even if they own the paper then it want be and we know now that Iran talks are forbidden by the neocon aka neohebs and Israel under any circumstances. And if you dont it then too bad since AIPAC runs this nations foreign policy and if you complain too much the televitz will be flooded with Holo-hoax documentaries and dead jews in Germany after WW2 and also Speilsberg will make another couple big billion dollar movies about it in Hollywood. So take your medicene and shapup. This is the Jewnited States/Snakes or whatever you want to call it and they are calling the shots with their idiot duped Bush moron cokehead drunk draft dodger silver spooner who wastes trillions for them. So shut your piehole and pay them taxes cuz Bush and his boyz need all they can steal. Look you guys. Havent you learned yet that if the jews in charge dont want anything printed even if they own the paper then it want be and we know now that Iran talks are forbidden by the neocon aka neohebs and Israel under any circumstances.
And if you dont it then too bad since AIPAC runs this nations foreign policy and if you complain too much the televitz will be flooded with Holo-hoax documentaries and dead jews in Germany after WW2 and also Speilsberg will make another couple big billion dollar movies about it in Hollywood.
So take your medicene and shapup. This is the Jewnited States/Snakes or whatever you want to call it and they are calling the shots with their idiot duped Bush moron cokehead drunk draft dodger silver spooner who wastes trillions for them.
So shut your piehole and pay them taxes cuz Bush and his boyz need all they can steal.

]]> By: pete http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/comment-page-2/#comment-1285304 pete Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:10:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/15/nyt-cia-oped/#comment-1285304 american went to war with the president it had, not the president it wanted. american went to war with the president it had, not the president it wanted.

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