British in South African? Why you not try Irish War of Independence?

For who support the idea extreme violence will lead victory, check Soviet war in Afghanistan. They didn’t have liberals, media, elections, and limitation in humanity but they still lost.

International condemnation arose due to the alleged killings of civilians in any areas where Mujahideen were suspected of operating. The inability of the Soviet Union to break the military stalemate, gain a significant number of Afghan supporters and affiliates, or to rebuild the Afghan Army, required the increasing direct use of its own forces to fight the rebels. Soviet soldiers often found themselves fighting against civilians due to the elusive tactics of the rebels. They did repeat many of the American Vietnam mistakes, winning almost all of the conventional battles, but failing to control the countryside.

Taken for a ride? Are you completely high? Who got taken for a ride? The US went in and destroyed that country, precipitated a civil war and you say the US is being taken for a ride? Thats like robbing a store and being angry with the owner for not saying thank you when you’re running out the door. Its also interesting you advocate turning neighborhoods into concentration camps/prisons as in the Boer war. You think the British had the right idea. Wow. The Brits – the most vicious imperialists next to Ghengis Kahn. Try saying that to a South African of Boer descent or an Irish person and see what answer you get.

Also Matthew, here’s an newsflash – Fallujah was destroyed – 90% of the buldings were flattened. Are you going to start saying they had to destroy Fallujah in order to save it?

Your arrogance is astounding. You talk about ‘handing a fairer piece of power to Sunnis’. Does it even dawn on you that the basic assumption that the US decides who gets what power in a country thousands of miles away is the height of condescension.

Wake up man.

I strongly suggest taking the British approach in South Africa in the Boor wars. That is, fence off and clear neighborhood by neighborhood thuroughly. Allow the residents back into their neighborhoods gated, with ID cards. This approach, in fact, generally worked in Fallujah. Do it also in Sadr City and Ramadi. This mess isn’t nearly as big and pores as it was in the Boor wars. This is a military solution that can work–at least for the short term. Solving the political will mean handing a fairer piece of power to Sunnis. The Shias really are, as Sunnis claim, dominating power and handing over influence to Iran. All major groups need fair representation, inspite of who is the ethnic majority–that is what a constitutional democracy should provide, and isn’t.

I think the U.S. is being taken for a ride by the Shias. I think they all want us to suffer before we leave so they can get away with anything, thereafter–without us coming back. Sunnis know this.

Matthew

a) Germany lost WWI because the army was “stabbed in the back by the home front”. So in WWII they had only to “stick it out” to win this time. The consequences are known.
b) Large german companies supported WWII and the argument about being “stabbed in the back”, because there was money to be made. Some of the owner’s families are still abundantly rich.

Does this sound familiar to any of you?

End this war! And please vote for any candidate, who never supported this madness, even if they are really hard to find.

If you disagree then list off specific accomplishments that you feel Kissinger achieved that benefited humanity.

Great choice of references for your argument Judd.

Brilliant…

Shouldn’t this be:

Bush’s New Strategery: Copy The ‘Success’ of Vietnam

:D