In Shift To Right, McCain Embraces Henry Kissinger
In Shift To Right, McCain Embraces Henry Kissinger
Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) has known former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger since 1973, but during the 2000 presidential campaign, “McCain’s handlers opted not to have the two appear publicly together,” fearing Kissinger “would taint the image of the ‘Straight Talk Express.’”
Now, in his latest shift to the right, McCain is openly embracing Kissinger. Hotline On Call reports that McCain has chosen Kissinger to be the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York.
The selection reflects an increasingly unified position on Iraq advocated by Kissinger, McCain, and President Bush. Bush is reportedly set to adopt McCain’s plan to escalate the war with tens of thousands of additional U.S. troops, and has taken up Kissinger’s mantra that victory in Iraq simply requires “sticking it out”:
Kissinger sensed wobbliness everywhere on Iraq, and he increasingly saw it through the prism of the Vietnam War. For Kissinger, the overriding lesson of Vietnam is to stick it out.
In his writing, speeches and private comments, Kissinger claimed that the United States had essentially won the war in 1972, only to lose it because of the weakened resolve of the public and Congress.
In a column in The Washington Post on Aug. 12, 2005, titled “Lessons for an Exit Strategy,” Kissinger wrote, “Victory over the insurgency is the only meaningful exit strategy.”
Asked recently about his friendship with Kissinger, McCain said, “I’m not at all embarrassed about it; I’m proud of it.”
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It’s only fair.
GDumbya had little Billy Kristol as his muse.
Mad John McCain has Hank as his spiritual guide.
Once again, the lame, the blind and the stupid are leading the clueless Republicans around by the nose.
December 19th, 2006 at 2:57 pm“Victory over the insurgency is the only meaningful exit strategy.â€
The insurgency? Which one?
December 19th, 2006 at 2:58 pm.
Not a smart move McCain.
December 19th, 2006 at 3:00 pmFor the next two years, your presidential aspirations are going to be asphyxiated.
McCain sure is open in his pandering to the right. Kissinger, by the way, is the “authority” behind the troop build-up plans floating around Washington D.C.
The last time Kissinger was in charge McCain rotted for 2 years at the Hanoi Hilton while Kissinger dithered over the shape and size of the negotating table in Paris. McCain should hate Kissinger with a passion rather than scooping him up in an embrace. One does an unusual dance when the Presidential sugar plum is floating around in one’s head.
December 19th, 2006 at 3:00 pmAnyone who thinks Henry Kissinger is someone who is revered by the Republican “right” has absolutely no knowledge or understanding of the history of the conservative movement in the Republican Party.
December 19th, 2006 at 3:05 pmI’m getting sick and tired of the old impotent men using our flag pole like it’s their last great erection. No one for President that was born before Oct. of 1947 please.
December 19th, 2006 at 3:05 pmIsn’t Kissinger a wanted criminal?
December 19th, 2006 at 3:07 pmMcCain must have gotten tired of having to pound all those little nails into his coffin, and decided to seal it once and for all with a railroad spike…
December 19th, 2006 at 3:08 pmWhy would McCain embrace a war criminal like Kissinger? The mastermind behind the bombings in Cambodia and Laos. The mastermind behind the assasination of a democratically elected leader leading to Pinochet’s dictatorship. Cyprus. East Timor. The list goes on.
I think McCain is going down the tubes.
December 19th, 2006 at 3:09 pmWhy do you hate old people?
December 19th, 2006 at 3:09 pmInsane McCain. Really, this guy is a two-faced nut.
December 19th, 2006 at 3:10 pmLooks like the Neo-Cons might end up dumping Bush and going for McCain
I always had this lurking suspicion, and I guess it has come to pass.
December 19th, 2006 at 3:12 pmAnyone who thinks that this administration is in any way “conservative” doesn’t have a clue as to the history of the conservative movement itself.
December 19th, 2006 at 3:13 pmWhy are you so enamored with them?
December 19th, 2006 at 3:19 pmI’m not a huge fan of McCain or Kissinger. My biggest hope for 08 is for a true conservative to step up to the plate and take a swing.
December 19th, 2006 at 3:20 pmWe don’t need another Corrupt Republican in ‘08.
December 19th, 2006 at 3:23 pmkevin, I don’t hate Old People, i have 2 parents that are both in their 70’s, my dad flew bombers in Vietnam and it is their GENERATION that I’m tired of. The memories I have of the disdain for the College anti war, hippies if you will, that my parents generation carries with them is stifling any potential acceptance of new paradigms of thought regarding the world we live in. The Rush Limbaugh is right, teeth in the glass by 8:00 p.m., crowd has and will become the largest entitlement hypocritical mass of American humanity that we will ever endure and all in the next few decades. If we don’t stand up and demand some consideration for newer ideas for us and our children we will continue to live thru the constant cycle of this arrogant bunch trying to get their mistakes corrected on our time and with our resources. I’m not ungrateful for their contributions but they’ve had their turn and we all know what happens when old people still insist on driving. Back seat grandpa.
December 19th, 2006 at 3:26 pmKissinger is bat sht crazy if he thinks the American people are going to sit around while he racks up another 58,000 dead American soldiers, like he so successfully did in Vietnam.
We’re all stocked up on crazy Mr. Kissinger. You go sell that somewhere else.
December 19th, 2006 at 3:26 pmNow there’s a winning combination if ever I saw one. Henry has done wonders for the GOP and the enemies of this country. By the way, is he a foreign agent? There are many countries that would love for him to step foot on their soil. He would be arrested for war crimes.
December 19th, 2006 at 3:27 pm#6 Fly-man,
You do have a knack for painting a picture in one’s mind.
December 19th, 2006 at 3:27 pmThanks for the laugh.
In republiQueen jargon this is called ‘flip-flopping’,is it not?
December 19th, 2006 at 3:29 pmKevin - howza bout Sammy Brownback?
December 19th, 2006 at 3:29 pmthis is the best they have folks, should be a lot of fun when the erection of a new deity does happen. Personally, I think President Pelosi’s staff will allow the truth to come out about anyone in the opposition for the campaign in 8.
December 19th, 2006 at 3:33 pmshould we live that long
Kissinger himself soesn’t beleive there is possibility of victory in Iraq!
When asked, wether there is any hope for military victory in iraq, Kissinger recently told for BBC Sunday AM:
December 19th, 2006 at 3:34 pmKissinger was brought in for Cheeks & others that like futt buck’n old guys.
December 19th, 2006 at 3:38 pmHenry! Bend over.
Why would a vietnam vet associate with this rat bastard? First McCain gives Bush a big hug (after Bush accused McCain’s wife of being a druggy who got knocked up by a balck man), now he cuddles up to one of the architects of our worst military misadventures. Maybe Alan Keyes can hire David Duke for his next presidential run.
December 19th, 2006 at 3:41 pmSammy Brownback seems to only be concerned with abortion. Not something I push for but not something I push against. For me, abortion should be legal but the government should never pay for it. Ever. And parents of underage kids should be notified. After all if an underage kid needs an abortion, a crime has been committed.
December 19th, 2006 at 3:46 pmI just sent an email to Senator McCain thanking him for his courageous service to our country during the Vietnam war. Then I asked him what happened to that man. I said that it confounds me as to why he would warmly embrace Bush and his failed policies after what the Bush/Rove machine did to him during his 2000 run. I told him that he should have known by now that people do not want another George Bush, and don’t want the religious right to run our country. I am very disappointed in him.
While I’m not a Republican, nor from Arizona, I wrote as an American citizen to another American citizen.
December 19th, 2006 at 3:46 pmI think we should have John Edwards and Wesly Clark for President and Vice President.
#17 Fly-man Who cares if you are sick of the hippie generation. We were against the war in Vietnam and the illegal war in Iraq. The young people today don’t have respect for anyone. The shooting and the drugs in school is your generation. Where my husband works there is a young guy that had to take a drug test and he failed it. So don’t talk about my generation.
Rush Limbaugh has a big mouth. The CHICKENLIVER that never service in the military. Who listening to this idiot any way?
Suck it up. We will be around for along time.
Don’t forget you will be old someday.
December 19th, 2006 at 3:54 pmI guess McCain can’t read the polls. He’s toast.
December 19th, 2006 at 3:55 pmKevin, thanks for your thoughtful reply.
December 19th, 2006 at 3:59 pmDo you have a candidate in mind>>??
McCain and Kissinger deserve each other so I really couldn’t care less. I am curious, though, who is the top?
December 19th, 2006 at 4:02 pmI’m sorry Mary Poppins, I just washed my keyboard and can’t do a thing with it. Let me clarify my point. I’m tired of the constant DISDAIN that people my parents ,Mr. McCain and Mr. Kissingers’ age have for the Anti-Vietnam hippie generation college protesters. Namely all the baby boomers that wanted a little change after the people in charge, especially Nixon, Regan and Bush Sr.’s crowd screwed things up and now they’re back to wreaking havoc again.You know Kissinger, Jim Baker, and our current enabler for the decrepit, W.
December 19th, 2006 at 4:13 pmMcCain gets the Bush hug, the Kissinger, and if he goes all the way to the Presidency, America gets screwed again.
December 19th, 2006 at 4:21 pmOh, and this is one of the best summarizations of McCain that I have ever seen:
“McCain’s handlers opted not to have the two appear publicly together,†fearing Kissinger “would taint the image of the ‘Straight Talk Express.’â€
So, he engaged in deception so that he could claim that he was not a deceiver. Priceless. Or, more accurately, worthless.
December 19th, 2006 at 4:24 pmSadly, No. I would like to see someone focus on reducing the size and power of government and empower the individual. Lower taxes (or the fair tax) so I can keep the money I work so hard for. A secure boarder. Immigration reform. (someone willing to punish the employers as well as the undocumented worker) so far the closest candidate to that is Rudy Giuliani
December 19th, 2006 at 4:26 pmAnyone who believes that we could have “won” in Vietnam needs their head examined. Kissinger is just plain nuts to think that wasting the lives of thousands more American men could have brought “victory” in Vietnam over the indigenous insurgency. Had we remained in Vietnam we would still be fighting the insurgency to this very day.
McCain has pretty much decided to abandon his centrist credentials in hopes that the rabid and radical core of the GOP will put him in the Oval Office. Keep on trying, John. I just don’t think that America can stomach another wingnut Republican president. I know I can’t.
December 19th, 2006 at 4:27 pmDollar dropped in Iran asset move ( BBC REPORT this time )
Iran is to shift its foreign currency reserves from dollars to euros and use the euro for oil deals in response to US-led pressure on its economy.
December 19th, 2006 at 4:30 pmIn a widely expected move, Tehran said it would use the euro for all future commercial transactions overseas.
According to Kissinger, we are only just over a quarter of the way to victory because:
“Victory over the insurgency is the only meaningful exit strategy.†= Killing 2 million people in their own country like in Vietnam.
You can’t have an insurgency without a Government in place to be insurgents against and Iraq obviously doesn’t have one of those, therefore, we are simply killing and targeting the citizens who are actually willing to stand up and fight for their country and Kissinger doesn’t think we have won until we kill them all.
How in the world does this guy still have any influence over anyone? How many times and in how many ways will the Iraq war make me think and say the 2 words “completely insane”?
Nevermind, I really do not want to know.
December 19th, 2006 at 4:33 pmKevin, what about Mike Pence? Mary P. as far as young people are concerned if I was to wager everyting I have on who will be the next President it would have to be Al Gore and the young people will be the main force behind it. The associations they will make with the current GOP crowd will be the War dudes and with Albert it will be “He’s the dude that has the movie about global warming, cool!” Maybe even Hilary as VP. The current administration has set bad examples from the top down and that’s what needs to be fixed.
December 19th, 2006 at 4:36 pmKissinger claimed that the United States had essentially won the war in 1972, only to lose it because of the weakened resolve of the public and Congress.
December 19th, 2006 at 4:38 pmToday, Bush&Co are blaming the debacle in Iraq on the public and its lack of will to continue.
Colbert had a hilarious routine on the Iraq failure being all the fault of the people being unable to swallow what Bush had chewed off in Iraq.
Nice to see that McCain has abandoned all pretense and is now openly shaking hands with the Devil.
Hopefully, enough people will remember what the name Kissinger stands for to avoid voting for this jackass in 2008.
December 19th, 2006 at 4:38 pm#36 Kevin,
You have claimed the core set of “conservative” values that are great sound bites, but have no substance. What does smaller government really mean? Specifically. And, a secure border sounds great only if you are in fear of an invasion. What are you proposing, a moat?
I agree, though, with the scratched-surface comment about immigration reform and the enforcement breadth. It is the obvious and most elegant solution when included with clear and efficient means of providing visas. Why do you think this solution has not been approached?
Finally, do you know Giuliani’s record on all the items that you list as important to you? I know that you will be shocked if you do even an elementary amount of research.
December 19th, 2006 at 4:41 pmAnd, oh yeah, McCain… The far right doesn’t trust you and more or less “hates” you because you acted as a “moderate” and didn’t “tow the line” for so long, but you actually had a chance of winning over many people from both parties…
But now you have gone and blown it all with EVERYONE because we are capable of seeing right through your faccade. Who are you John?
McCain R.I.P 2006
December 19th, 2006 at 4:42 pmKissinger is a wanted criminal in some parts of the world - he has become more than senile in his old age - and McCain has allied himself with him. That says a whole lot about McCain’s judgment, and what lengths he will go in his attempt to get the presidency.
December 19th, 2006 at 4:43 pmMcCain has sealed his fate — he will go down.
We are seeing a lot of Republiscum these days who should be chasing little white balls around the lawn instead of running the country.
December 19th, 2006 at 4:46 pmI am all for those who want to see younger blood and brains in charge. New ideas, fresh approaches, less baggage, more innovations. The old guard has crossed into the age of assisted living, and they can take their unstable mascot “W” with them.
An Iraq war architect wannabe, Mccain, dates Kissinger, architect of Vietnam´s war.Mccain gets pregnant and gives birth to WWIII.
In theatres - 2007
December 19th, 2006 at 4:56 pmNever looked at Rep. Pence before. I checked him out. He looks like a good candidate. I’ll have to keep an eye out for him. As for Al. He is just a bit loony for my taste. Just a bit too far left to do any good at all.
December 19th, 2006 at 4:57 pmKevin, if you want a boat load of current spit on Mr. McCain and his posture with the conservatives try : realclearpolitics.com.
December 19th, 2006 at 5:01 pmKevin, the only secure boarder is the one you charge rent.
December 19th, 2006 at 5:13 pmNEWS FLASH: Sarcasm News is reporting that a Republican Resurrection is underway. Recently the Republican Party has been successfully bringing back its disgraced members, ala Henry Kissinger and James Baker. But now, a White House insider has revealed that the Republican Resurrectionists have plans for a Christmas Coup De Gras. Previously classified DNA from former President Richard Nixon has been implanted in the womb of the “Virgin†Jenna. The Re-birthed Nixon is scheduled to make his début early Christmas morning in a manger on the Crawford Ranch. Although the roles of the 3 Wise Men have already been purchased by members of the Bin Laden family, sources tell us that the animal roles at Baby Nixon’s nativity can still be obtained through a $1 million donation to the RNC. The “Virgin†Jenna is reportedly doing fine, but her doctors have concerns that the Baby Nixon’s birth may be difficult if he insists upon waving his arms while making V signs during the delivery. Republicans hope that a special diet of depleted uranium combined with bovine growth hormones will allow Baby Nixon to age fast enough to assume the presidency in 2008.
December 19th, 2006 at 5:21 pm#43 Tuber
Smaller government to me is the limiting of governmental power. Things like FCC censorship should not exist. Farm or corporate subsidies should be done away with. If a business can make it then too bad. If it can, then the government should not punish it for doing well. Government should not be able to force an employer to pay a wage.
We have an invasion of illegal immigrants crossing the boarder every day. Secure via fence and guard. Also, fine any employer that hires undocumented workers. Heavy fines. Like $5000 per incident. It adds up. Don’t get me wrong. I am a supporter of legal imagration. And I also believe the process could be easier (smaller government) but not as easy as crossing an hip deep river.
December 19th, 2006 at 5:29 pmKevin - a boundary between states or nations is spelled border.
December 19th, 2006 at 5:41 pmA person you rent a room to is a boarder.
Geeez Kid, I like your emphasis on whacking employers, but your spelling sucks.
John McCain is so power hungry, he’d sell his soul to the devil to become President. He has lost all creditability as far as I’m concerned after he shamelessly attacked his so called friend John Kerry for a slip of the tongue. Now that he has embraced the likes of Jerry Faldwell and Henry Kissinger, I would vote for him if my life depended on it. The sad part about it is that he thinks people are stupid enough to still think he represents straight talk.
John my friend your shouldn’t have sold your soul for twenty pieces of silver, because in the end you’ll never be President. If you had kept your iintegrity intact, you would have had lots of democrats voting for me. But as with Anakin Skywalker, the pull of the dark side became too much for you to handle. If you had just let things play out you could have been in the cat bird seat. As it stands you’d better hope that Rudy asks you to be his VP. At your advanced age being VP is a dead end job, so take my advice and don’t do it.
There was a time when I listened to your word intently, but now I turn the channel to avoid the lies and spin you put on things. It reminds me too much of Bush. You’ve tried to become Bush and in my humble opinion, you’ve done a great job of twisting and spinning things so much that you are in denial.
December 19th, 2006 at 5:42 pmKevin, didn’t it strike you as peculiar about the raid at the Swift plants? What if that had been a publically held company? I can just imagine the phone calls being made from big stock holders to the ICE people about what a hit their stock would take if it was one of their companies. The govt. knows precisely where the illegals work, the big fines will never happen, too many cronies with campaign money to give for turning a blind eye. Smaller govt? Uncle Karl’s blackmail scheme of voting with the party and you get pork and campaign funds and the stiif arm if you don’t is way too provacative or suicidal however you look at it.
December 19th, 2006 at 5:45 pmPeople tell me Kissinger is a bad man.
December 19th, 2006 at 7:37 pmI heard that McCain is considering bringing Rummy’s evil twin, McNamara out of mothballs to be SecDef, then he can REALLY fight this war the way it oughta be fought….. just like we did in Vietnam.
Seems like Johnny Boy McCain racked up way too many frequent stayer points in the Hanoi Hilton.
(from a fellow ‘Nam vet.)
December 19th, 2006 at 7:47 pmHas anyone ever counted up the number of ways one can call McCain a whore?
December 19th, 2006 at 8:09 pm#28 galcal
You thanked McCain for his courage during the Vietnam war -
Perhaps you are too young to remember or know what McCain did during the Vietnam war.
Let me refresh or fill your memory
He was an Air Force pilot. He dropped bombs from 30,000 feet over North Vietnam when there was NO declared war on Vietnam.
He bombed and killed people in an undeclared war.
Those are the facts.
So stop claiming peoples are courageous for bombing other people from 30,000 feet
December 19th, 2006 at 8:09 pmIt doesn’t take courage to do that. It takes arrogance and ignorance to do that.
It’s not surprising that McCain would turn to Kissinger
Kissinger is a war criminal, as is McCain.
Kissinger presided over the overthrow of several governments and the subsequent torture and deaths of thousands
McCain bombed NOrth Vietnam in an illegal war
Two peas in a pod
December 19th, 2006 at 8:17 pm#60,
He actually was a Naval Aviator and that did take BIG balls to fly into N. Vietnam against the AA and SAM missiles.
I used to have to rescue those downed pilots and appreciate their courage, but he has lost all touch with reality now or is so power-hungry, he will (and is) doing anything to get nominated.
December 19th, 2006 at 8:19 pm#59 Zooey -
Has anyone ever counted up the number of ways one can call McCain a whore?
Comment by Zooey
I actually CALLED him a whore in another topic that said he has sold himself more times than a Saigon whore.
December 19th, 2006 at 8:23 pm62
You appreciate their courage to bomb another country illegally
What does that make you
December 19th, 2006 at 8:25 pm62
You appreciate McCain’s courage to bomb N Vietnam illegally - be he air force or navy pilot - you admire him why? because you rescued similar pilots who had run similar bombing runs.
Did you ever ask yourself who they were bombing? The villages, the children.
You were just happy to rescue the pilots? You never felt anything for the people they bombed?
Because they were Vietnamese. So it was ok.
But the war was illegal. We had no right to bomb them. They had never attacked us.
But that didn’t matter to you, did it. and it still doesn’t. does it.
The root of evil is the inability to acknowledge the truth.
December 19th, 2006 at 8:31 pm#64
I never said I supported the war, in fact I was a member of VVAW, but was trying to get the story straight.
And that war was just as immoral as this one is.
December 19th, 2006 at 8:32 pmI actually CALLED him a whore in another topic that said he has sold himself more times than a Saigon whore.
Comment by upside00
Actually, I’d have more respect for a Saigon whore. At least she’s upfront about what she is.
December 19th, 2006 at 8:34 pm66
No you said you appreciate their courage
“I used to have to rescue those downed pilots and appreciate their courage, but he has lost all touch with reality now or is so power-hungry, he will (and is) doing anything to get nominated”
and you transfer McCains problem away from his war crimes to a supposed sudden loss of touch with reality.
I suggest that his loss of touch with reality occurred before or during his illegal bombing of Vietnam from 30,000 feet. The dropping of napalm on women, old people, and children, can cause a loss of touch with reality - at best.
December 19th, 2006 at 8:37 pmWhat it should cause is a trial and a long jail sentence for war crimes
ChildrenofLir -
Do you feel the same way about the troops in Iraq, or are you just against anyone who went to Vietnam? I wasn’t fighting against the Vietnamese, I was trying to save American lives.
Both of the wars are illegal, but that doesn’t make the military guilty, just the leaders who sent us there.
December 19th, 2006 at 8:38 pmupside00
I would say the same thing to any pilot dropping bombs and any soldier, and I said the same thing to my son who considered joining the marines…
I told my son.. it’s an illegal war and they will train you to kill women and children
So to any pilot out there right now running bombing runs over IRaq or being given orders to do the same — it’s an illegal war, what right do you have to bomb another country without cause? That’s what i ask the troops right now. What right do you have? The answer is.. they have no right to kill IRaqis.
December 19th, 2006 at 8:42 pm69
One more point
You split the difference between saving American lives and fighting Vietnamese
We invaded Iraq, illegally. Just as we invaded Vietname illegally. So the fact that we are there is the problem.
Saving Americans. You want to know how to save Americans. Withdraw all Americans immediately.
December 19th, 2006 at 8:46 pm69 upside00
It’s taken me three reads to get your main point
You said
“Both of the wars are illegal, but that doesn’t make the military guilty, just the leaders who sent us there. ”
And I say to all military personnel
December 19th, 2006 at 8:49 pmThe Geneva Conventions require that you refuese to follow illegal orders. This war is illegal. So you know the rest.
You guys want to talk about courage
Some say McCain had courage in Vietnam but now he’s…blah blah blah
Here’s real courage
“I think as the recent elections show more and more Americans are opening their eyes, but we aren’t there yet. I hope that actions such as mine will continue to help expose the truth behind the fundamental illegality and immorality of the war.”
– U.S. Army Lt. Ehren Watada
Wikipedia–
Lt Watada is a First Lieutenant in the United States Army, a member of the 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division Stryker Brigade Combat Team, who in June 2006 publicly refused to deploy to Iraq for the Iraq War, saying that he believed the war to be illegal and that it would make him party to war crimes. The first commissioned officer in the U.S. armed forces to publicly refuse deployment to Iraq,[1] Watada will face a court-martial set to begin February 5, 2007.[2]
Now we’re talkin courage
December 19th, 2006 at 9:09 pmAnother heroine
Suzanne Swift After
December 19th, 2006 at 9:13 pmAfter serving in Iraq, Swift was arrested and confined to base for
going AWOL. She says she was sexually harassed and abused by
her commanders in Iraq and at home. I
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Too bad McCain didn’t refuse to deploy. Too bad he didn’t refuse to drop bombs and kill innocents.
Although, look at him now. He’s a Senator!
Just like they think this country is all about good when it invades other countries.
When interviewers ask Howard Zinn …”Professor Zinn, don’t you think America promoted good in… ” .. Nicaragua, Vietnam, Guatemala…
put any name there
Professor Zinn: No
The point of America’s invasions is not to do good. It’s to promote business interests.
December 19th, 2006 at 9:20 pmFinally, some hot kook-on-kook action!! Give it to him Henry…..take it, Johnny, swallow it all, buddy!
December 19th, 2006 at 10:01 pmThis looks terrible for both Iran and the United States. For Kissinger carpet bombing is the answer to half of life’s problems.
December 19th, 2006 at 11:57 pmMcCain proud of his friendship with Kissinger?
To properly address this statement read Kissinger’s escapades in South America, and elsewhere. They are all available:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger
December 20th, 2006 at 12:14 amPlease do not let the muslims gain a foothold in America.It leads to all kinds of communications between them which invariably leads to thoughts of Allah which eventually leads to sleeper cells which eventually leads up to terrorists which eventually leads to bombings which eventually leads to killings.This viscous cycle of Islam and Islamists coming to America must stop now.You let them get setup,and before you know it they are like rabbits or mice,they are everywhere speaking that foreign lingo like no one knows what they are thinking.When we actually do know exactly what they are thinking.They go into a trance and then start murmuring Allah`s name and before you know it that demon spirit has taken ahold of the boy and twisted his soul up in black sashcloth trying to eat it alive for all eternity.This is why muslims and the muslim faith must be stamped out on a worldwide basis.I am all for congressman and senators to keep us safe from the roving bands.Muslims are trying to gain a foothold onto christian ideals and territories.We will not stand for this.I have alot of faith in Mr. Reid.He will vote to keep this war going so we can stamp out terrorism and the Muslims.They are threatening Christianity.This will not stand.When the Roman Catholic Church tell any nation to go to war,they go to war.Nations have no choice in the Vatican`s decisions.They all obey the Vatican.Even the United States of America.Our Vatican is the most powerful govt.and the most powerful banking establishment in the world.You cannot change this.Therefore you must come on board to be spared from noncompliance with the Lord our God.You have no real choice.Not at the end of the day.It`s God Almighty or nothing.
December 20th, 2006 at 1:38 amDear wuss Generals,
December 20th, 2006 at 1:38 amIt’s called a COUP. There’s no other way to stop this failed, miserable human, so-called “Leader”. He who has NEVER succeeded in ANY venture, either spoon-fed to him, or concocted in his own tiny, twisted mind, MUST BE STOPPED, BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE.
A “leader” without a clue, is more dangerous than no leader at all.
This is off of this thread - House Armed Services Chairman ‘Extremely Concerned’ With Iraq Escalation Plans -Dec. 18 ,2006
Available in older posts section for free and at absolutely no charge. You have to read the whole thread to appreciate it.It`s a real gem.
Not so fast;I have one thing I’d like to add to this discussion.
Atleast twice in the last 50 posts,unbelievable said that she ‘doesn’t lie’.
Yet she told me,thus everyone else on this blog,last spring,that her Mother was dead.This turned out NOT to be TRUE.
Now answer your own question: What kind of person would say that about their own Mother just for the sake of winning an argument?
Now you all are beginning to see why I’ve had such acrimony with her in the past.
Just for the record,BnF, I never,ever,insulted her Mother,that’s if you were referring to something I might have said.
She told me her Mom was dead after I said she probably lives at home with her Mom.
All this can be found in the archives.
This is who you are dealing with,and she has no respect.
Comment by Si Byl — December 20, 2006 @ 2:22 am
Trueblue,
Of course, Unbelievable is offended by any remark about sexuality:
Men’s peak is 17, and women’s is 40. I’m guessing I’m closer to 40 than you are to 17? :)
Comment by unbelievable — April 17, 2006 @ 4:03 pm
and:
I think it’s a plot by women in their 40’s so they can get 17 year old men :)
Comment by Tundra — April 17, 2006 @ 4:19 pm
I assure you, that’s mostly a guy fanatasy. As men age they get better in other ways. :)
Comment by unbelievable — April 17, 2006 @ 4:29 pm
and this:
If a course is called “Shaving your legs†there is no reason to discuss how to braid leghair (That’s for unbelievable)
Comment by Tundra — April 17, 2006 @ 8:34 pm
Flirting with me again, I see ; )
Comment by unbelievable — April 17, 2006 @ 8:49 pm
finally capped of by this:
If I were asked for a one line answer to the question “What makes a woman good in bed?†I would say, “A man who is good in bed.â€
- - Bob Guccione (1978)
Comment by unbelievable — April 18, 2006 @ 4:51 pm
and the email Unbelievable misquotes?
“If I were asked for a one line answer to the question “What makes a woman good in bed?†I would say, “A man who is good in bed.â€
- - Bob Guccione (1978)
Comment by unbelievable â€
amen to that!!! (care to put the hypothesis to a test? —just kidding…)
Perhaps it is Unbelievable who is envious of my spirituality. She has derided the thought of breathing a cloud away, yet I’ve taught others to do so as well.
Perhaps she was offended because I was just kidding. After all, I have mentioned on these boards that I wear a kilt. And you know what they say about a woman scorned. I mean, to take what I wrote and somehow twist that into insinuating that I, a married man, was interested in having an adulterous affair with someone who lives a couple of thousand miles away takes either dimentia, a great imagination, or wishful thinking.
And Trueblue, as you can see, a shaman would say “Amen.â€
There’s another word, a greeting, I say to you:
Namaste.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — December 19, 2006 @ 7:53 pm
December 20th, 2006 at 4:02 am[…] From ThinkProgress: Now, in his latest shift to the right, McCain is openly embracing Kissinger. Hotline On Call reports that McCain has chosen Kissinger to be the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York. […]
December 20th, 2006 at 11:52 amKissinger’s escapades in South America, and elsewhere. They are all available:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger
December 20th, 2006 at 1:14 pmCould be that the Bushie campaign in 2000 was not wrong about Johnny boy. Maybe he did spend a little too long at the Hanoi Hilton. If that is true, That is all Bushie has gotten right in his life. McCain is trying to pattern himself after Bushie. As a two war vet, I have no respect for either one of them, except McCain did honorably serve his country. This country cannot withstand another Neo-Con person in the White House. If it happens, I openly approve a REVOLUTION!
One Happy Democrat(So Far).
December 20th, 2006 at 2:33 pmKissinger the war criminal has the blood of Chileans, Cambodians, Vietnamese, East Timorese, & Bangladeshi on his hands. What possible political advantage does McCain see in embracing this evil man? Or maybe he just wants good advice on how best to kill more Iraqis.
December 20th, 2006 at 4:38 pmI lost a lot of respect for McCain when he was able to hug G. Jr. in the 2000 election after Rove rubbed poop all over him in South Carolina.
December 20th, 2006 at 8:08 pmThis thing with Kissinger is the final straw. Bring tricky dick back to life.
Well there were a lot of Demoncrats willing to go along with Kissinger’s ideology not to long ago
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October 9th, 1999 Letter to President Clinton Signed by Senators Levin, Lieberman, Lautenberg, Dodd, Kerrey, Feinstein, Mikulski, Daschle, Breaux, Johnson, Inouye, Landrieu, Ford and Kerry — all Democrats
“We urge you, after consulting with Congress and consistent with the US Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions, including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.â€
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Joe Biden > August 4, 2002
“This is a guy who is an extreme danger to the world, and this is a guy who is in every way possible seeking weapons of mass destruction.â€
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Bill Clinton > February 17, 1998
“If Saddam rejects peace, and we have to use force, our purpose is clear: We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.â€
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Chuck Schumer > October 10, 2002
“It is Hussein’s vigorous pursuit of biological, chemical and nuclear weapons, and his present and future potential support for terrorist acts and organizations that make him a danger to the people of the united states.â€
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Madeleine Albright > February 1, 1998
“We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and the security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction.â€
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Nancy Pelosi > December 16, 1998
“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology, which is a threat to countries in the region, and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.â€
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John Kerry > January 23, 2003
“Without question we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator leading an impressive regime. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he’s miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. His consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction.â€
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Al Gore > September 23, 2002
“We know that he has stored nuclear supplies, secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.â€
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Sandy Berger > February 18, 1998
“He’ll use those weapons of mass destruction again as he has 10 times since 1983.â€
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John Kerry > October 9, 2002
“I will be voting to give the president of the US the authority to use force if necessary to disarm Saddam because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.â€
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Senator Carl Levin > September 19, 2002
“We begin with a common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations, is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.â€
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Ted Kennedy > September 27, 2002
“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.â€
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Senator Hillary Clinton > October 10, 2002
“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock. His missile delivery capability, his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists including Al-Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.â€
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Jay Rockefeller > October 10, 2002
“There was unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. We also should remember that we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.â€
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Madeleine Albright > November 10, 1999
“Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.â€
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Joe Biden > August 4, 2002
“[H]e does have the capacity, as all terrorist-related operations do, of smuggling stuff into the United States and doing something terrible. That is true. But there’s been no connection, hard connection made yet between he and al-Qaida or his willingness or effort to do that thus far. Doesn’t mean he won’t. This is a bad guy.â€
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Robert Byrd > October 3, 2002
“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of ‘98. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons.â€
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Madeline Albright > February 18, 2002
Iraq is a long way from (here), but what happens there matters a great deal here, for the risk that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest national security threat we face — and it is a threat against which we must and will stand firm.â€
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Al Gore > September 23, 2002
“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter, and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.â€
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Jane Harman > August 27, 2002
“I certainly think (Hussein’s) developing nuclear capability which, fortunately, the Israelis set back 20 years ago with their preemptive attack which, in hindsight, looks pretty darn good.â€
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Joe Biden > August 4, 2002
“I think he has anthrax. I have not seen any evidence that he has smallpox, but you hear them say, Tim (Russert), is the last smallpox outbreak in the world was in Iraq; ergo, he may have a strain.â€
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Dick Durbin > September 30, 1999
“One of the most compelling threats we in this country face today is the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. Threat assessments regularly warn us of the possibility that North Korea, Iran, Iraq, or some other nation may acquire or develop nuclear weapons.â€
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Bill Clinton > December 17, 1998
“Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq…. Their mission is to attack Iraq’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.â€
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Bill Nelson > August 25, 2002
“[M]y own personal view is, I think Saddam
has chemical and biological weapons,
and I expect that he is trying to develop
a nuclear weapon. So at some point,
we might have to act precipitously.â€
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Hillary Clinton > October 10, 2002
“In the four years since the inspections, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability and his nuclear program.â€
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Nancy Pelosi > October 10, 2002
“Yes, he has chemical weapons. Yes, he has biological weapons. He is trying to get nuclear weapons.â€
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Dick Gephardt > September 23, 2002
“(I have seen) a large body of intelligence information over a long time that he is working on and has weapons of mass destruction. Before 1991, he was close to a nuclear device. Now, you’ll get a debate about whether it’s one year away or five years away.â€
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Evan Bayh > August 4, 2002
“I’m inclined to support going in there and dealing with Saddam, but I think that case
needs to be made on a separate basis: his possession of biological and chemical weapons, his desire to get nuclear weapons, his proven track record of attacking his neighbors and others.â€
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Russell Feingold > October 9, 2002
“With regard to Iraq, I agree Iraq presents a genuine threat, especially in the form of weapons of mass destruction: chemical, biological and potentially nuclear weapons. I agree that Saddam Hussein is exceptionally dangerous and brutal, if not uniquely so, as the president argues.â€
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Bill Clinton > February 17, 1998
“We have to defend our future from these predators of the 21st Century…. They will be all the more lethal if we allow them to build arsenals of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them. We simply cannot allow that to happen. There is no more clear example of this threat than Saddam Hussein.â€
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Johnny Edwards > January 7, 2003
“Serving on the intelligence committee and seeing day after day, week after week, briefings on Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction and his plans on using those weapons, he cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons. It’s just that simple. The whole world changes if Saddam ever has nuclear weapons.â€
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Hillary Clinton > January 22, 2003
“I voted for the Iraqi resolution. I consider the prospect of a nuclear-armed Saddam Hussein who can threaten not only his neighbors but the stability of the region and the world, a very serious threat to the United States.â€
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John Kerry > January 31, 2003
“If you don’t believe…Saddam Hussein
is a threat with nuclear weapons, then
you shouldn’t vote for me.â€
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Joe Biden > August 4, 2002
“We know he continues to attempt to gain access to additional capability, including nuclear capability.â€
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Bill Nelson > September 14, 2002
“I believe he has chemical and biological weapons. I think he’s trying to develop nuclear weapons, and the fact that he might use those is a considerable threat to us.â€
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Johnny Edwards > February 6, 2003
“The question is whether we’re going to allow this man who’s been developing weapons of mass destruction continue to develop weapons of mass destruction, get nuclear capability and get to the place where — if we’re going to stop him if he invades a country around him — it’ll cost millions of lives as opposed to thousands of lives.â€
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Al Gore > September 23, 2002
“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.â€
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Joe Biden > August 4, 2002
“First of all, we don’t know exactly what he has. It’s been five years since inspectors have been in there, number one. Number two, it is clear that he has residual of chemical weapons and biological weapons, number one.â€
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Tom Daschle > February 11, 1998
“The (Clinton) administration has said, ‘Look, we have exhausted virtually our diplomatic effort to get the Iraqis to comply with their own agreements and with international law. Given that, what other option is there but to force them to do so?’ That’s what they’re saying. This is the key question. And the answer is we don’t have another option. We have got to force them to comply, and we are doing so militarily.â€
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Senator Bob Graham > December 8, 2002
“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has and has had for a number of years a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.â€
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Bill Richardson > May 29, 1998
“The threat of nuclear proliferation is one of the big challenges that we have now, especially by states that have nuclear weapons, outlaw states like Iraq.â€
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John Kerry > February 23, 1998
“Saddam Hussein has already used these weapons and has made it clear that he has the intent to continue to try, by virtue of his duplicity and secrecy, to continue to do so. That is a threat to the stability of the Middle East. It is a threat with respect to the potential of terrorist activities on a global basis. It is a threat even to regions near but not exactly in the Middle East.â€
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Hillary Clinton > October 10, 2002
“It is clear, however, that if left unchecked Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capability to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.â€
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December 22nd, 2006 at 6:18 pmAl Gore > December 16, 1998
“[I]f you allow someone like Saddam Hussein to get nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, chemical weapons, biological weapons, how many people is he going to kill with such weapons? He has already demonstrated a willingness to use such weapons…â€
[…] McCain decided in 2000 that he didn’t want anything to do with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, believing he “would taint the image of the ‘Straight Talk Express.’†Kissinger is now the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York. […]
January 7th, 2007 at 3:15 pm[…] * McCain decided in 2000 that he didn’t want anything to do with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, believing he “would taint the image of the ‘Straight Talk Express.’†Kissinger is now the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York. […]
January 20th, 2007 at 2:16 pmYou mean McCain snuggles up to the globalist who he knows can get him elected. The man is a traitor to this country and his service. Don’t miss this guy when your sweeping washington for criminals. I realize that could just about vacate washington but we have to start somewhere. So start with Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzales, Rice, Mc Cain but the list continues for days.
February 25th, 2007 at 6:04 pm