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FLASHBACK: Bush Said Kerry Proposal to Increase Size of Military Would Make The Country ‘Less Safe’

Bush and KerryYesterday, President Bush announced his intention to increase the “overall size” of the Army, acknowledging that the current forces were “stressed.” The Washington Post reports he’s considering an increase of 50,000-70,000 troops.

On June 3, 2004, Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) — campaigning for the presidency — proposed expanding the Army by 40,000 troops. Bush quickly slammed the proposal as unnecessary and counter-productive:

Bush’s campaign manager, Ken Mehlman, said Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld already has authorized 30,000 more troops through extended tours and new recruitment. He said the country would be “less safe” under Kerry’s approach.

In a news release, Kerry explained the problem with the Bush approach:

The Bush administration is relying on temporary solutions including “Stop Loss” orders, recalling the Individual Ready Reserve and extending tours to meet our commitments. These temporary measures have increased the burden on our troops and their families without addressing the underlying reality: we need more troops.

As recently as six months ago, President Bush was sticking to his guns. From a June 14, 2006, “Statement of Administration Policy“:

The Administration opposes increases in minimum active Army and Marine Corps end strengths in Title IV, because they could require DoD to maintain a higher personnel level than is needed. The restructuring of the Army and the Marine Corps, plus other initiatives, is enabling our military to get more warfighting capability from current end strength.

This “restructuring” was a central part of Rumsfeld’s efforts to make the military a “more modern force.” Bush cited those efforts as a key reason why he believed Rumsfeld was “one of the finest defense secretaries” in history.

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167 Responses to “FLASHBACK: Bush Said Kerry Proposal to Increase Size of Military Would Make The Country ‘Less Safe’”

  1. Kay Says:

    The further adventures in the Evil Flip-Flopper in Chief! Stay tuned for more exciting episodes...


  2. criticalthinker Says:

    Its deja vu all over again!


  3. upside00 Says:

    Isn't it refreshing to see ol' Dubya the Decider listening to a Democrat!!!

    What's next... will he actually give a f*ck about anything but his own ego and the money he makes for the Bushco Chickenhawk Corporation?


  4. ForTruth Says:

    Commander in Thief, stealing Kerry's ideas. A-holio.


  5. RantingTommy Says:

    Is anyone really shocked to discover (again) that Bush is a lying asshole?


  6. ForTruth Says:

    "At the time I was just sayin' what the little box on my back told me to say."


  7. Hector Garcia Says:

    Are you actually sayin i'm a moron who claimed we need a "new direction in Iraq"? No, no , i'm not an idiot, it is that evil J.Kerry who should be accused, he gave me the right idea...


  8. Briseadh na Faire Says:

    I believe one of the ways Bush will propose to increase the size of the military without resorting to a draft will be to Federalize all State's Militias.

    Watch for that coming in a Theater of War near you.


  9. dumbstruck Says:

    Spinning from one day to the next...


  10. And You Thought REAGAN Was Stupid Says:

    Do the Republicans EVER come up with their OWN ideas ?? I mean their own ideas that actually WORK?


  11. 20wordsorless Says:

    There's way more to this issue than what Judd is showing you. A good spin meant to perpetuate Bush hatred.


  12. Jaded Prole Says:

    So it seems, Regupgs and Dims agree, more troops in Iraq is the answer. What alternative does that leave for the masses of us who have aoposed this illegal war and demanded an end to it?

    Our ruling class is unable to let go of the idea of controlling that oil. This empire is trapped by its own greed in the quicksands of a no-win situation that will bring it crashing to the ground.


  13. 20wordsorless Says:

    #10

    Democrats have no ideas--only slogans to do things better, smarter, tougher... they never say how though.


  14. GSD Says:

    #11.

    Why do you Republicans just whine about stuff. I mean now that you can't boast about how you "win all the elections" you guys have become whiners and pansies.

    -GSD


  15. Zooey Says:

    Is anyone really shocked to discover (again) that Bush is a lying asshole?
    Comment by RantingTommy

    He's that too, but basically he just didn't (doesn't) know what the f*ck he's talking about. Ever.


  16. Zooey Says:

    There’s way more to this issue than what Judd is showing you. A good spin meant to perpetuate Bush hatred.
    Comment by 20wordsorless

    Believe me, I don't need Judd spinning anything in order to hate GWB.

    Piss off, troll.


  17. Jaded Prole Says:

    Repugs and Dims are the two heads of the same corporate beast.

    We the people need to shut this country down, remove these thugs from power and install a rational people focused system.


  18. 20wordsorless Says:

    #14

    You assume too much... I'm not a Republican.


  19. GSD Says:

    What about Republican's useless slogans:

    "Fiscal responsibility"

    "Dead-enders"

    "Last-throes"

    "Balanced budget amendment"

    "Line item vetoe"

    "Fight them over there"

    Lame, lame, lame.

    -GSD


  20. 20wordsorless Says:

    #16

    Seek help you warped little twit. There's more to life than hating Bush.


  21. chimpeach Says:

    #11 20wordsorless

    There’s way more to this issue than what Judd is showing you. A good spin meant to perpetuate Bush hatred.

    #13 20wordsorless

    Democrats have no ideas–only slogans to do things better, smarter, tougher… they never say how though.

    Maybe you'd like to post as "100wordsorless" and actually try saying something. So far, ya got nothin'.


  22. Briseadh na Faire Says:

    19:

    "Cut and Run"

    "Tax and Spend"

    "Moral values"

    "Right to Life"

    "Stay the Course"

    "Way Forward"

    "I'm the Decider"


  23. Zooey Says:

    #19 - More Republican useless slogans:

    Stay the Course

    The Way Forward

    Suiciders

    Adults are in Charge Now

    ...

    Add more!!


  24. 20wordsorless Says:

    #17

    They say if you're going to dream, you should dream big... nice job.


  25. GodfryDaniel Says:

    As always... just because he said it doesn't mean he said it.


  26. Zimzone Says:

    It always amazes me to watch history rewritten in front of one's very eyes.
    This regime of Christofascists have it down to a science, spining it one way or the other, mindful of 'truthiness' but having to reach an outcome that makes them look good, right or wrong.
    Kerry presented this plan about 2,500 dead soldiers ago.
    Bush couldn't find his ass with both hands.
    Enough.
    Impeach the bastards now.


  27. ForTruth Says:

    Seek help you warped little twit

    That means about 75% of this country needs help for hating Bush. Don't hate America so much 20wordsorless, AKA 5wordsorless.

    Pick a name. Jeez.


  28. Rich in Fat Little Brother Land Says:

    20 or Less @ 13

    What you have stated is a perfect description of Bushes legacy.

    How will he help Katrina victims , specifically ??
    How will straighten out Medicare, specifically ??
    When will we know we have achieved our objective in Iraq, specifically?
    How many terrorists has he caught by spying on milions of Americans,
    specifically?


  29. Democrat Soldier Says:

    #13 - "Democrats have no ideas–only slogans to do things better, smarter, tougher… they never say how though."

    Comment by 20wordsorless — December 20, 2006 @ 10:47 am

    Lies, lies, lies, yeahhhhhh!!!!!! (Thompson Twins)

    Sweetie, you need to stop swigging the koolaide, back away from repeating the "party lines" you're given, and begin to think for yourself!

    http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2006/12/gop-senate-did-one-thing-in-2006-kill.html

    By the way, cupcake, your knee-jerk hatred for anything Democratic will clear up when you stop listening to the calumny and mendacity spread by the right-whiners!


  30. ForTruth Says:

    20wordsorless,

    The shining example of shining turdism. You are so in the minority, most people can see this moron for what he is, a moron.


  31. GSD Says:

    The Republican Party has become the isolated southern regional loser party full of old dinkweeds that miss the old days of Jim Crow and the old confederacy.

    Loser party, loser membership.

    Bitter dead enders, losers. Anti-American losers at that.

    -GSD


  32. Briseadh na Faire Says:

    20 - YOU'RE the one who brought up hating Bush:


    A good spin meant to perpetuate Bush hatred.

    Comment by 20wordsorless — December 20, 2006 @ 10:43 am

    And there are far more reasons to hate Bush than just what's on this thread.


  33. ForTruth Says:

    "My finger is stuck in this Dyke" (and it ain't Cheney's daughter)

    Another useless slogan.


  34. rox63 Says:

    Although Kerry still supports increasing the size of the military, he DOES NOT support sending more troops to Iraq. The following is from an interview he did this morning on NBC's Today show:

    GREGORY: Let me ask you first about headlines this morning. The president now wants to increase the size of the U.S. armed forces. A good idea?

    KERRY: Well, it shouldn't be confused with increasing the numbers of troops in Iraq itself.

    Two years ago, during the campaign, I said and recommended that we need to increase the size of our armed forces for our global responsibilities by at least 40,000 troops. So that's a good idea.

    But I don't believe we should be escalating the number of troops absent some kind of comprehensive political resolution in Iraq.

    GREGORY: More troops would not do enough in your estimation to shore up Baghdad and at least give the Maliki government a fighting chance?

    KERRY: Not without a fundamental political resolution. I think you could put 100,000 troops and you're going to up the casualties, up the stakes, increase the violence and not get a resolution.


  35. Democrat Soldier Says:

    #28 - I'll answer your questions:

    1 - He won't.
    2 - He can't.
    3 - His objective was to screw Iraq and kill American soldiers. Done!
    4 - None.


  36. 20wordsorless Says:

    #21

    I know you wouldn't listen anyway... so I won't waste my time.


  37. SouthWest Bob Says:

    Bush has never been successful in anything in his life. . . . that fact will not change because he is willing to squander more American lives and billions of dollars.


  38. ForTruth Says:

    I know you wouldn’t listen anyway… so I won’t waste my time.

    Comment by 20wordsorless

    Another early Christmas gift, awesome.


  39. DieNowForPeace Says:

    Why are the only people who still have "Shrub" bumper stickers on their cars ALWAYS fat, old ladies?

    Ah, that's your 11% right there.


  40. bluefish Says:

    Nothing surprising here. Remember, this is coming from the same administration that scoffed at John Kerry's statement that the "war" would cost at least 200 billion.


  41. Zooey Says:

    Seek help you warped little twit. There’s more to life than hating Bush.
    Comment by 20wordsorless

    There is? Tell me about it -- in 20 words or less. Email me: zooey at goodvibes dot com


  42. chimpeach Says:

    #20 20_IQ_points_or_less

    Seek help you warped little twit. There’s more to life than hating Bush.

    Sure there is. In fact, hate doesn't even enter into the picture. But, he's killing hundreds of thousands of people with his insistence on continuing an occupation of Iraq that has no purpose and no plan, and that has to be stopped. He's destroying our economy and that has to be stopped. He's destroying our environment and blocking attempts to deal with global warming and that has to be stopped. Whether anyone here hates Bush or not is irrelevant. The man is a disaster and he has to be stopped.

    There's more to life than slavish devotion to Bush and a refusal to admit that the guy is f*cking up everything he touches. Start dealing with reality.


  43. 20wordsorless Says:

    #28

    I hope you use that same scrutiny on the Democrats, and not give them a free pass.


  44. 20wordsorless Says:

    #30

    What minority would that be?


  45. ForTruth Says:

    Get the cock out of your face and read.

    Comment by 20wordsorless

    We all know it certainly wouldn't be yours, it's way too small to get in anyones way.


  46. ForTruth Says:

    Comment by 20wordsorless

    He doesn't hate Dems, just himself.


  47. VerbalKint Says:

    You assume too much… I’m not a Republican.

    Comment by 20wordsorless — December 20, 2006 @ 10:52 am

    You aren't the only person in this country too embarrassed to admit being a diehard Republican. But you are a Republican, even if you call yourself something else, like "conservative" or "libertarian". You voted for Bush. Twice. And now you can't admit to yourself how wrong you were. You fell for Bush because you are a pathetic, bedwetting coward, scared of brown people, scared of people who think, scared of fighting terrorists on your front lawn, so you wanted to vote for a strong, resolute man, and in your deluded eyes Bush was that man. But Bush has proven beyond all doubt that he is a pathetic, lying narcissist, an ignoramus, and a cowardly bedwetter himself, an all around failure as a human being.


  48. Briseadh na Faire Says:


    I know you wouldn’t listen anyway… so I won’t waste my time.

    Comment by 20wordsorless — December 20, 2006 @ 11:05 am

    Too bad your Omniscience isn't matched by use of correct grammar.


  49. Hector Garcia Says:

    "There’s more to life than hating Bush." What about hating Bush apologizers and criminal


  50. GSD Says:

    20wordsorless,

    Rumor is that your weenie is used as dental floss after a fat-cat Republican steak dinner with all the Congressional queens and Whitehouse closet cases.

    -GSD


  51. DieNowForPeace Says:

    What minority would that be?

    Comment by 20wordsorles

    Gee, you are tragically dumb.

    That would be the MINORITY OF PEOPLE WHO STILL SUPPORT THE SHRUB, A MINORITY OF THE POPULATION, that you're in.


  52. 20wordsorless Says:

    #32

    I didn't bring it up, I remarked on Judds intent to engender comments such as those posted before mine.


  53. [Billy Bob] Says:

    Caption Contest:

    Hhmmmm:
    Nah,I got nothin';just the fact that I despise that Son of a B¡tch.


  54. PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) Says:

    20wordsorless

    Since 1) you don't have any point other than to be provokative and 2) you've used up your 20 words, why don't you call it a day, go sit in your Lazy-Boy chair, and try to make up some more 5-words-or-less slogans for the neocons?


  55. 20wordsorless Says:

    #40

    What talking points might those be????


  56. Jake Says:

    I don't even know why you guys bother addressing or responding to comments made by people like 20wordsorless. It's entirely clear from the second comment on that he's just trying to incite anger, and likely feels typical vindication by his percieved ability to "control" the crowd. You know, the sort who sits there and says "haha, I pissed off all those fools and now they're acting like an angry mob! See they're no different from anyone else!" or somehting equally stupid and shallow.

    (ie, it's like throwing someone in a huge vat of candy and then blaming them for eating some).


  57. And You Thought REAGAN Was Stupid Says:

    20wordsorless: I see you're the typical troll, putting forth declaratory statements with no facts to back them up. And, by the way, it should be 20wordsorFEWER.


  58. 20wordsorless Says:

    #44

    Really? He's killed hundreds of thousands? By the way... I have no devotion to Bush... another blind assumption...


  59. WC Says:

    Democrats have no ideas–only slogans to do things better, smarter, tougher… they never say how though.

    Comment by 20wordsorless — December 20, 2006 @ 10:47 am

    Here's one for ya:

    Members of the Iraqi government have asked us to leave.

    Bush said we'd leave if the Iraqis asked us to.

    So why are we still there and planning on increasing the troop level?


  60. ForTruth Says:

    Well Mr. 20words,

    Your FOX news talking point is the one about how Dems just manufacture unfound hatred for Bush.

    If I remember correctly, its the closeted Repugs that hate bush so much.


  61. Zooey Says:

    20wordsorless stands for nothing.
    He's only here to do what he's doing -- derailing the thread.

    **yawn**


  62. 20wordsorless Says:

    #47

    Nice junior high insult... that really got to me.


  63. chimpeach Says:

    #45

    I hope you use that same scrutiny on the Democrats, and not give them a free pass.

    For the time being, as far as trustworthiness goes, there's no comparison between the two parties. The list of things that the new House Speaker has planned for the 110th Congress goes so far beyond anything even suggested by the Republicans, it's impossible not to feel hopeful about it. The GOP put so much energy into sticking it to everyone who wasn't either a billionaire or a corporation, and using their political power to stuff their pockets at the same time, you'd have to be delusional to think the average American wasn't getting screwed with them in power. Right now we aren't seeing any action from the Dems, because they won't be taking control until next month. But, they're promising to do some things about election reform, oversight of contractors, and undoing the Medicare giveaway to Big Pharma, just to name a few, that I'd never really expected to hear them say. If they don't come through on their promises, if it all turns out to be empty talk and the Dems turn out to be just as beholden to corporate interests as the Republicans, you'd better believe they're going to hear it from us. There's no way we're going to sit and take the kind of treatment we got from the GOP, just because it's coming from Democrats.

    Unlike so many of the Republicans, it's not "my party, right or wrong."


  64. DieNowForPeace Says:

    “Democrats have no ideas–only slogans to do things better, smarter, tougher… they never say how though.”

    Comment by 20wordsorless

    #57, THESE talking points you f*cking idiot.

    I'm done trying to educate you to your own posts.

    Offer something substaintial to this discussion, or just shut up.


  65. null Says:

    I had to stop at warrior democrat. I thought they all lived with their heads in some fantasy nice land that didn't need someone to kill for them, until they got threatened. Hate a cop until your mugged, hate a servicemember until your icons are destroyed, then stick your head in the ground instead of understanding the reality that some people should die, they should be replaced, it is natural. It took someone to make that decision, GWB did. He stayed the course, in the right or worng direction. At least he didn't sit there and die, or let us die without a fight. Your so worried about spreading democracy and liberty yet you scream under it, your willing to fight to stop it using the very liberty that it provides. So stingy that you wont spread it. How many attacks on American soil or embassies since 2001? You suck.


  66. 20wordsorless Says:

    #49

    Another mind reader in our midst. Step right up and get profiled at the freak show!


  67. TheToonGuy Says:


    What talking points might those be????

    Comment by 20wordsorless

    Translation: I know you are, but what am I?


  68. OxyCon Says:

    Bush wuz agin it bafores he wuz fer it!


  69. 20wordsorless Says:

    #51

    Yes... theres more to life than that too.


  70. Democrat Soldier Says:

    I guess it took the abundant lies of the Bush Administration for the "independant" voters to get over the fear and smear of the Republican't party to return the Democrats to Majority party.

    Now, Pres. Bush realizes that his plan isn't working so he's stealing the plans of the Democrats. Since the Republicans have blocked any and every suggestion from the Democrats for the past 12 years, it's up to the Democrats to fix their mistakes and clean up their messes. Again!

    The 20th of January 2009 can't come soon enough! We need to get Pres. Bush out of office so his "legacy of lies" can be sent to the trash-bin of history!


  71. 20wordsorless Says:

    #53

    Talk about dumb... I never said I support Bush.


  72. pablo Says:

    hey 20words...

    worst. president. ever! (does that work?)


  73. ForTruth Says:

    Mr. Junior high insult. He throws them out, and then calls them immature when he recieves a similar response.


  74. ForTruth Says:

    Whaaaaaa, my mom can beat up your dad.


  75. GSD Says:

    #

    There’s way more to this issue than what Judd is showing you. A good spin meant to perpetuate Bush hatred.

    Comment by 20wordsorless — December 20, 2006 @ 10:43 am

    Yet you were here in the very beginning being all wussy like whining about "Bush hatred".....Typical cut and run Republican who doesn't want to support Bush now that he is universally loathed.

    -GSD


  76. 20wordsorless Says:

    #61

    The Iraqi government also said they want us to stay. What does that have to do with the Democrats?


  77. WC Says:

    There’s way more to this issue than what Judd is showing you. A good spin meant to perpetuate Bush hatred.

    Comment by 20wordsorless — December 20, 2006 @ 10:43 am

    Here's an idea. Since you are so knowledgeable about the issue and the "way more" related to it, why don't you enlighten us? 73 posts in this thread and you've contributed nothing to the discussion.


  78. 20wordsorless Says:

    #62

    No...I'm merely responding to what is posted daily here at TP.


  79. chimpeach Says:

    #60 20ContradictionsOrLess

    I have no devotion to Bush… another blind assumption…

    Right. You have no devotion to Bush, but you get your undies in a bunch over people criticizing him. You're just such an enigma.


  80. 20wordsorless Says:

    #65

    I'm happy to hear it :)


  81. 20wordsorless Says:

    #66

    Those aren't Fox talking points... listen to Democrat speeches you dolt!


  82. VerbalKint Says:

    Talk about dumb… I never said I support Bush.

    Comment by 20wordsorless — December 20, 2006 @ 11:38 am

    Nobody here believes you.

    I have never met a person, or read about a person, who trots out the "you just hate Bush" mantra who isn't a Bush supporter. It just doesn't happen. You voted for Bush. Twice. You can no longer support Bush with facts or cogent arguments. Things have gotten so bad that you can't even fake it anymore.


  83. 20wordsorless Says:

    #74

    That's better... criticising job performance is more useful than character assassination.


  84. Democrat Soldier Says:

    Ugh! I'm getting really queasy from the spin coming from "20words".

    First, it's "you all suck!" then it's "you all hate (Pres.) Bush!", then it's "I never said I support (Pres.) Bush!" then it's "you're just repeating talking points!"

    It's official. "20words" is not making any sense at all, nor is he (she? it?) contributing to the discourse. Some of the conservatives that post here actually try to have a dialogue, but "20words" is simply repeating the same line of "you're all wrong, but I won't say anything about how it can be right!"

    How mush sophistry can you babble before your brain actually kicks in, "20words"? Can you make a simple point, or is it all nonsensical blather?

    No, don’t answer that question. We all know what the truth is: you have no point, just irrational drivel meant to tweak nerves. When you graduate from high-school and learn some more about the real world, come back and we’ll school you on how much the Republican “culture of corruption” has screwed this country.


  85. chimpeach Says:

    20wordsorless & null

    I guess it's still a mystery to you why your numbers are dwindling. You must be absolutely dumbfounded when you see that only 11% of the country agrees with you and Bush about sending in more troops. The other 89% hear Bush trying to justify it and they're dumbfounded at people like you who still back him up on it. I wonder how small your little circle has to get before you start to question your own judgement. Keep us posted on that, okay?


  86. GSD Says:

    #81,

    I am sure that this a Foley-troll and he gets his "panties" in a bunch. The new Republican Party, chicken-hawk closet queens who spend American money on Iraqi jobs programs and worship a dry-drunk chowder head who is destroying the American military.

    He hates America.....no doubt.

    -GSD


  87. Larry from C Says:

    #67 How many attacks on American soil or embassies since 2001?

    Remember that game that Michael Jordan and I combined for 69 points! True, he scored 69 and I scored 0.

    There's been zero attempted and zero seriously planned. How many prosecuted Al Qaida terrorists? With all the NSA spying and a shredded Bill O'Rights they should've prosecuted and convicted hundreds by now.


  88. VerbalKint Says:

    Right. You have no devotion to Bush, but you get your undies in a bunch over people criticizing him. You’re just such an enigma.

    Comment by chimpeach — December 20, 2006 @ 11:47 am

    Interesting behavior, isn't it? The very first post by 20bitterwords is criticism of Bush's critics for criticizing him. Ditto for most of its subsequent posts. Not even a token attempt to counter the criticisms is offered, signifying the cultlike worship it has for Bush. Yet it insists again and again that it doesn't support Bush and that it isn't a Republican.


  89. bs Says:

    #19 more

    "victory"
    "we will win"
    "sustained commitment"


  90. GSD Says:

    Anthrax attacks killed five wounded many and shut down much of the US government.

    But that doesn't fit into the "no attacks since 9/11" narrative so the wingers never remember that.

    Also, according to Bush, AL Qaeda attacks Americans every day in Iraq, so Al Qaeda thanks us for sending them lots of US targets to hit.

    -GSD


  91. chimpeach Says:

    I think we're getting a new breed of troll in here. It's the human blunderbuss variety that really doesn't have a core principle and seems to go for volume more than substance. Some of these clowns can't seem to remember what insincere comments they made from one post to the next and are constantly contradicting themselves. There are the staunch Bush-defending Republicans who suddenly declare they're neither Republican nor Bush supporters. Then there are the bible-thumping, non-denominational Christians who suddenly decide they're Catholic but don't seem to be all that familiar with the Bible after all.

    I say let 'em troll. Let them put their profound ignorance on display. They're as much responsible for the incredible shrinking right-wing in this country as anyone is.


  92. VerbalKint Says:

    I wonder how small your little circle has to get before you start to question your own judgement. Keep us posted on that, okay?

    Comment by chimpeach — December 20, 2006 @ 11:57 am

    Don't hold your breath. Anyone still clinging to the defense of last resort, "you just hate Bush", probably can't be helped. This person probably doesn't have a circle to speak of, anyway.


  93. PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) Says:

    Verbalkint

    Could 20WOL be telling the truth in Bush fashion? Bush-worshipper but not Republican because not American?


  94. Juan C Says:

    instead of understanding the reality that some people should die, they should be replaced, it is natural.
    Comment by null

    You, for example.


  95. VerbalKint Says:

    Could 20WOL be telling the truth in Bush fashion? Bush-worshipper but not Republican because not American?

    Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) — December 20, 2006 @

    This is a good point. It is getting a bit hard to tell who the Republicans are anymore, now that so many rats have fled the ship, often going to some other dank, smelly corner of the political universe. So perhaps we can concede that it might not be "Republican" anymore, at least not in its way of thinking. Bush-worshipper, certainly, though.


  96. Bb Says:

    Bush owns the MSM, or at the very least, controls most of the TV News world in the US.
    That's how he gets away with this horse shit. If we, the progressives , want to take back
    control, then we need to start up a news channel. Use the bloggers as the reporters, and
    call the news channel, "News from the blogging world" or whatever. Point being, unless we
    get the same chance to present our side, the public will remain ignorant, and we will either
    prolong greatly the battle for the publlic's mind, or will lose it altogether. bush may be
    dumb, but the people controlling him are indeed, very smart, totally ruthless and
    unethical.

    Food for thoguht, Bb


  97. pete Says:

    bush, what can you say, the man is obviously insane.


  98. 20wordsorless Says:

    #77

    I oppose manufacturing reasons to hate a politician. Fair-minded people handle the facts honestly. TP picks subjects and parses statements so that all the Bush and Republican haters here can have their little feast. Here's a little test to see if you're fair-minded and honest... Do you apply the same methods of criticism and scrutiny to your positions as you do to Bush and the Republicans? Can you simply take a person's statement at face value?

    For many here the answers are no. I have not revealed my positions on anything, yet several of you seem quite willing to assign them to me--all of you are wrong.

    Saddly even these words will not be taken at face value--I can
    t wait to see what the intellectually dishonest accuse me of now.


  99. VerbalKint Says:

    I think we’re getting a new breed of troll in here. It’s the human blunderbuss variety that really doesn’t have a core principle and seems to go for volume more than substance.
    Comment by chimpeach — December 20, 2006 @ 12:08 pm

    Good description.

    Recent troll posts show signs of serious breakdown in the ranks. With Rove's power in decline and the party warring with itself, there is no longer a set of core talking points for Bush's deadenders to parrot. Since very few supporters are now left who can think for themselves, the need for coherent talking points is very important, as demonstrated by the seemingly random, directionless attempts for 20words to make a point.


  100. 20wordsorless Says:

    #84

    Stop trying to be a f***ing mind reader. You're not any good at it.


  101. kelso Says:

    You have to be a real frickin' loser to try to respond to every single comment in the thread. Especially when NOT ONE of those comments is on topic.

    A real L-7 weenie.


  102. VerbalKint Says:

    TP picks subjects and parses statements so that all the Bush and Republican haters here can have their little feast.

    Ok, PLC, we now have proof that it is Republican. Only a Republican would use the phrase "Republican hater" in this way.


  103. 20wordsorless Says:

    #86

    Another f***ing mind-reader. My God! Do all of you jump to conclusions here? When in doubt--assign your own meanings


  104. AvengingAngel Says:

    The twin pillars of the coming Bush approach to Iraq appear to be a "surge" in U.S. force levels combined with the sacking of the generals opposed to it.

    Call it "Surge and Purge."

    The AP is reporting that President Bush and new Defense Secretary Robert Gates are targeting among others Army Generals John Abizaid and George Casey for replacement.


  105. 20wordsorless Says:

    #87

    And yet another mind reader.


  106. 20wordsorless Says:

    #88

    And yet another.


  107. seeprogress Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/seeprogress

    click on the link to
    WATCH THINKPROGRESS'S JUDD LEGUM TAKE ON PAT BUCHANAN ON MSNBC


  108. VerbalKint Says:

    I have not revealed my positions on anything, yet several of you seem quite willing to assign them to me–all of you are wrong.

    Comment by 20wordsorless — December 20, 2006 @ 12:21 pm

    Who the f**k do you think you're fooling? This tactic, and believe me, it has been used plenty around here, doesn't even rise to the level of sophistry.

    Okay, Mr. Pathetic, time to answer some questions. I will start with something easy:

    Did you or did you not vote for Bush, twice?


  109. 20wordsorless Says:

    #90

    You people do not operate on facts... at all! Your own imaginations reign supreme here.


  110. Democrat Soldier Says:

    #100 - "I cant wait to see what the intellectually dishonest accuse me of now." Comment by 20wordsorless — December 20, 2006 @ 12:21 pm

    There's irony for you. Calling others "intellectually dishonest" when you are not honest about your own positions.

    How much do you post at conservative web sites? None, probably. If you did, you'd talk about how they censor any opinions that don't follow their party line. TP doesn't remove posts unless they violate their clearly stated policy on violence/threats/exessive foul language.

    As you've noticed, all your posts have been left up, even the ones where you complain about how people don't understand you or mis-understand you. You make no effort to provide any stance of your own other than obfuscate your positions with spin. Spin, spin, and more spin.

    You claim that you're being mis-represented, but you've yet to make one post where you say what it is you believe in and what your position is on the world or what's happening in it.

    Sweetie, figure out what it is you stand for and fight for it. If you have nothing worth fighting for, you're just a rabble rouser.


  111. Democrat Soldier Says:

    #105 - "When in doubt–assign your own meanings"

    Comment by 20wordsorless — December 20, 2006 @ 12:27 pm

    Well, you've been doing that since you first started posting here. Why do you get so upset when people do as you do?

    Oh, I understand! There's one standard for everyone else, and another completely different standard for you!

    See, you really ARE a Republican!

    Now that you've had your chance to b!$@#, and I've responded in kind, can you make one post in which you state your position and either defend it or give it up? Or is that asking too much of you?


  112. The Other National Anthem Says:

    Whoah, 20!
    THere's a good long post.
    But I don't call the subject at hand (you know, the one above all the comments) just parsing statements and taking them out of context (politicians love saying that latter phrase).
    It's quite simple. Kerry called for an increase in the size of the military. Bush said no, that would make the country less safe, and that's anti-american. Now, Bush did an about-face, and upped the ante even further, and is sending more troops to Iraq.
    That's Karl Rove politics for you.


  113. chimpeach Says:

    #102

    Stop trying to be a f***ing mind reader. You’re not any good at it.

    Be fair. You don't give him much to work with.


  114. Bluedog49 Says:

    First of all, anyone who uses the term "Bush hatred" is a Bush cultist, so you're not fooling anyone here, 20Words or less. I'm sure you were one of the brainless cultists chanting "flip-flop, flip-flop" with fat old women wearing cowboy hats and sporting purple bandaids, and you probably had a lot of fun with that during the last Repub convention. Remember, Bush cultist, this isn't the first time, Bush has taken a position opposite of the one he took while running.

    "Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."
      
    -Governor George W. Bush (R-TX), 1999

    "If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy."
      
    -Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of presidential candidate George W. Bush, 1999

    Bush cultist, are these quotes also out of context and intended to encourage "Bush hatred?"


  115. Eleminnm Says:

    20wordorless:

    Get over your Bushophilic self. How does anyone normal have ANY feelings for as hapless a moron as Bush besides hate, except perhaps, DESPISE? If anyone is left out there that still has hope for this jackass, they too deserve to be hated and despised for their willful ignorance.

    How we feel doesn't matter though, cause he's YOUR crap-ss Decider and will continue to kill of all of our young men and women and all the innocent Iraqi's he feels like. We who can see clearly only pray that this guy's damage can be contained until we get him out of office.


  116. little birdie Says:

    This is off of this thread - House Armed Services Chairman ‘Extremely Concerned’ With Iraq Escalation Plans -Dec. 18 ,2006

    Available in older posts section for free and at absolutely no charge. You have to read the whole thread to appreciate it.It`s a real gem.

    Not so fast;I have one thing I’d like to add to this discussion.

    Atleast twice in the last 50 posts,unbelievable said that she ‘doesn’t lie’.
    Yet she told me,thus everyone else on this blog,last spring,that her Mother was dead.This turned out NOT to be TRUE.
    Now answer your own question: What kind of person would say that about their own Mother just for the sake of winning an argument?
    Now you all are beginning to see why I’ve had such acrimony with her in the past.

    Just for the record,BnF, I never,ever,insulted her Mother,that’s if you were referring to something I might have said.
    She told me her Mom was dead after I said she probably lives at home with her Mom.
    All this can be found in the archives.
    This is who you are dealing with,and she has no respect.

    Comment by Si Byl — December 20, 2006 @ 2:22 am

    Trueblue,

    Of course, Unbelievable is offended by any remark about sexuality:

    Men’s peak is 17, and women’s is 40. I’m guessing I’m closer to 40 than you are to 17? :)

    Comment by unbelievable — April 17, 2006 @ 4:03 pm

    and:

    I think it’s a plot by women in their 40’s so they can get 17 year old men :)

    Comment by Tundra — April 17, 2006 @ 4:19 pm

    I assure you, that’s mostly a guy fanatasy. As men age they get better in other ways. :)

    Comment by unbelievable — April 17, 2006 @ 4:29 pm

    and this:

    If a course is called “Shaving your legs” there is no reason to discuss how to braid leghair (That’s for unbelievable)

    Comment by Tundra — April 17, 2006 @ 8:34 pm

    Flirting with me again, I see ; )

    Comment by unbelievable — April 17, 2006 @ 8:49 pm

    finally capped of by this:

    If I were asked for a one line answer to the question “What makes a woman good in bed?” I would say, “A man who is good in bed.”

    - - Bob Guccione (1978)

    Comment by unbelievable — April 18, 2006 @ 4:51 pm

    and the email Unbelievable misquotes?

    “If I were asked for a one line answer to the question “What makes a woman good in bed?” I would say, “A man who is good in bed.”
    - - Bob Guccione (1978)
    Comment by unbelievable ”

    amen to that!!! (care to put the hypothesis to a test? —just kidding…)

    Perhaps it is Unbelievable who is envious of my spirituality. She has derided the thought of breathing a cloud away, yet I’ve taught others to do so as well.

    Perhaps she was offended because I was just kidding. After all, I have mentioned on these boards that I wear a kilt. And you know what they say about a woman scorned. I mean, to take what I wrote and somehow twist that into insinuating that I, a married man, was interested in having an adulterous affair with someone who lives a couple of thousand miles away takes either dimentia, a great imagination, or wishful thinking.

    And Trueblue, as you can see, a shaman would say “Amen.”

    There’s another word, a greeting, I say to you:

    Namaste.

    Comment by Briseadh na Faire — December 19, 2006 @ 7:53 pm


  117. Bluedog49 Says:

    How about this Bush position, cultist? Can you explain this: "The United States military shouldn't be used for nation-building." Do you agree with your dear leader today or do you agree with him 6 years ago? One or the other.


  118. VerbalKint Says:

    It isn't mind reading at all. I read your words. I see "Bush hater". I know that only diehard Bush supporters use this expression in this way. I see "Republican hater". I know that only diehard Republicans use this expression in this way. Since I have yet to see a single exception in this regard, I can confidently state that you are a diehard Bush supporter and a diehard Republican. And once I know these things, there is much else that I can deduce about you.


  119. Hector Garcia Says:

    20WOL, you claim one of the leftists tactics is "character assasination" in the media.What about your warmongering idols Dumbya& Cheney "physical assasination" of innocent people, civilians and our own troops? Do you consider this kind of "assasination" to be funny? Sadly, you do.


  120. Waldo Jaquith » Blog » So this would make us, what, 57% more unsafe? Says:

    [...] Remember when Sen. Kerry proposed expanding the Army by 40,000 troops, and President Bush declared that would make the country “less safe”? So was Bush lying then, or is he lying now, when he says we should expand the overall size of the army, perhaps by 50k-70k troops? [...]


  121. 20wordsorless Says:

    Look at the amount of words all of you have posted. Only one of you actually bothered to ask me a question--the rest of you roll your eyes back in your heads and start the feeding frenzy. You have demonstrated that you have little use for facts. I have given you a miniscule amount of information, and collectively you have written volumes in attempt to profile me. Now, no matter what I say you will only believe your own ideas about me. Yeah, I have a pretty clear picture of the level of honesty at work here, but just for the hell of it...

    I'm not registered as a Republican or a Democrat.

    I voted for Bush only once.

    I support some things he has done, and disapprove of many others.

    I do not carry water for any politcian. If they can't defend or speak for themselves--that's their problem, not mine.

    The Republicans lost the midterm elections because they deserved to lose.

    I don't think we're really any better off with the Democrats in power.

    Now it's your turn oh wise ones...go ahead...tell me how I'm lying, tell me what I really think, tell me what my positions really are.

    This should be good.


  122. The Other National Anthem Says:

    121:
    You still haven't really discussed why it is that you don't like the post.
    Not a lie, just an omission. Or perhaps you forgot when you were caught up with everything else around here.


  123. The Other National Anthem Says:

    Oh, 20, congratulations on another 20+ worded post.


  124. Gregor Samsa Says:

    This should be good.
    Comment by 20wordsorless — December 20, 2006 @ 1:18 pm

    Now, how about you comment on the actual topic of the thread -you know, the fact that Pres Bush is taking the very initiative he so criticised in the past?

    Or, as Karl Rove would put it: What do you think of Pres Bush's latest flip-flop?


  125. impeachcheneythenbush Says:

    #

    I had to stop at warrior democrat. I thought they all lived with their heads in some fantasy nice land that didn’t need someone to kill for them, until they got threatened. Hate a cop until your mugged, hate a servicemember until your icons are destroyed, then stick your head in the ground instead of understanding the reality that some people should die, they should be replaced, it is natural. It took someone to make that decision, GWB did. He stayed the course, in the right or worng direction. At least he didn’t sit there and die, or let us die without a fight. Your so worried about spreading democracy and liberty yet you scream under it, your willing to fight to stop it using the very liberty that it provides. So stingy that you wont spread it. How many attacks on American soil or embassies since 2001? You suck.

    Comment by null — December 20, 2006 @ 11:34 am

    And this is the definition of the name you selected for yourself. Very appropo, I think!

    1. without value, effect, consequence, or significance.
    2. being or amounting to nothing; nil; lacking; nonexistent.


  126. DRxJ Says:

    man, 75% of this thread basically reads like this:
    "blah blah. blah blah blah. blah blah. blah blah, blah blah blah....and furthermore, I'm not a Bush apologist"

    20wordsorless my a$$!


  127. Democrat Soldier Says:

    #121 - "I’m not registered as a Republican or a Democrat."
    So, do you have any political party with which you agree more often than not?

    "I voted for Bush only once."
    Well, we all make mistakes at one time or another.

    "I support some things he has done, and disapprove of many others."
    Now you're sounding like a Progressive! ;-)

    "I do not carry water for any politcian. If they can’t defend or speak for themselves–that’s their problem, not mine."
    Good for you! When you drink the kool-aide, you give up your thinking rights.

    "The Republicans lost the midterm elections because they deserved to lose."
    Now, THAT is the honest-to-God truth!

    "I don’t think we’re really any better off with the Democrats in power."
    Maybe not, but it's one heck of a lot better than "staying the course" with the pro-borrow&spend, anti-constitution, pro-war, pro-big-government stance of the Republican party!

    "Now it’s your turn oh wise ones…go ahead…tell me how I’m lying, tell me what I really think, tell me what my positions really are."

    Dude, you need to un-pucker. Your first post was "There's more to the story, this is spin!" I still have yet to hear about the "more to this story" from you. Do you have knowledge that we don't? If so, share it!

    Now, have a good Christmas (or holiday of your choice). I've got to finsih setting up a server and go to the team holiday event at Dave & Busters!


  128. 20wordsorless Says:

    #122

    It's just one more post in a long list of attacks on Bush--inviting yet another continued thread of vicious and hatefilled comments. I have proven (quite masterfully) that many here automatically have a negative opinion before they even know what they're dealing with. If they cannot deal with my simple comments honestly, how can they possibly deal with complicated issues--like the reasons for the size of the Army? It's the mindlessness of their positions that I oppose. Their knee-jerk reactions of "I hate Bush so everything he does is bad" premise--not their disapproval of the President.


  129. 20wordsorless Says:

    #123

    Thanks for noticing... next comes the charge of hypocrit, right?


  130. 20wordsorless Says:

    #126

    Thanks for proving my point loser!


  131. DRxJ Says:

    Thanks for proving my point loser!

    Comment by 20wordsorless — December 20, 2006 @ 2:26 pm

    Ahhh, gotta love those personal attacks. When nothing to argue, call names! Check!

    Now that I have your attention, I refer you to Gregor Samsa's post:
    Now, how about you comment on the actual topic of the thread -you know, the fact that Pres Bush is taking the very initiative he so criticised in the past?
    Or, as Karl Rove would put it: What do you think of Pres Bush’s latest flip-flop?

    Please, answer this rather easy question (or go off on a tangent with irrelivacy, as you are predisposed to accomplish)


  132. tom baker Says:

    Wingnut troll-a-cons are just like snakes, they keep wiggling around long after their heads have been chopped off.


  133. MedallionOfFerret Says:

    Well, this thread sure does answer the question of whether this is a Christian nation or not.


  134. Bluedog49 Says:

    20wordsorless = Exley


  135. hellinabucket Says:

    Kerry says we need more troops 2 years ago and Bush called it unnecessary and counter productive. Bush says we need more troops now and wants us to believe he's right.

    Is Bush saying Kerry was right all along? Any way you want to try and spin this, the facts will show Kerry was Right.


  136. 20wordsorless Says:

    Kerry pledged to add troops in order to appear tough on defense. Bush’s campaign manager, Ken Mehlman, said Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld already has authorized 30,000 more troops through extended tours and new recruitment. He said the country would be less safe in response to Kerrys's position on missle defense.

    This Story was dredged up to make it appear that Bush flip-flopped on adding troops, and to further criticize his management of the war. There are enough reasons for criticism without having to be dishonest about them.


  137. The Other National Anthem Says:

    dammit, 20, it sounded like you were gaining credibility there for a second--a mere second!!
    But you forgot to read the second source of evidence cited, which, if you remember, stated that as recently as June 2006 he was opposed to sending more troops, because he believed that what we had then (and now) was sufficient.
    Let's see, what happened between June and December of this year?...
    November's giving me vibes...


  138. hellinabucket Says:

    Nice Spin wordless, it's still a fact that GW called it counterproductive and now calls it needed. That's a flip and a flop and there is nothing dishonest about it.

    And since you brought up the fact there are other reasons for criticism I'll add one. Just prior to the last election Bush is quoted when asked if we were winning the war. "We are absolutely winning" were his exact words. Now he says "we aren't winning and we aren't losing". What happened to make such a change in just over 45 to 50 days?

    this man is flipping and flopping so much I believe he's perfecting the politcal summersault.


  139. SalJournal.com Blogs » Blog Archive » Increasing the size of the military Says:

    [...] John Kerry suggested increasing the size of the military back in 2004. George Bush said it was a bad idea that would make the country less safe. [...]


  140. Sean C. Says:

    "Kerry pledged to add troops in order to appear tough on defense. "

    Well thank you there, Mr. Mind Reader. Too bad this has been a proposal consistently put forward by the Democratic party for the last several years, including this past election season.

    Obviously, finding the numbers to increase the military will be difficult in light of the events of the past few years, and I don't personally think it will happen anytime soon, but we'll see.

    "Bush’s campaign manager, Ken Mehlman, said Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld already has authorized 30,000 more troops through extended tours and new recruitment. "

    And that worked out brilliantly under Bush and Rumsfeld over the past couple of years, didn't it? Oh, and by the way, continuing the stop-loss program to make up for troop numbers will only weaken our military, both over the short term and the long term.

    "He said the country would be less safe in response to Kerrys’s position on missle defense."

    Again with the mind reading. The article isn't entirely clear on that point and while it's possible that is what he was referring, to, we haven't exactly had much success on the Star Wars front since then, have we? So either way, Mehlman had his head up a certain orifice.

    "This Story was dredged up to make it appear that Bush flip-flopped on adding troops,"

    He clearly did flip-flop. He said one thing then, and then says a different thing now. That is the Republican definition of a flip-flop.

    "and to further criticize his management of the war."

    Hey, you just made a true statement! Congratulations!

    "There are enough reasons for criticism without having to be dishonest about them. "

    The only dishonesty here is Bush's and yours. Now go outside and get some fresh air. It'll do your brain some good.


  141. Sean C. Says:

    "Kerry pledged to add troops in order to appear tough on defense. "

    Well thank you there, Mr. Mind Reader. Too bad this has been a proposal consistently put forward by the Democratic party for the last several years, including this past election season.

    Obviously, finding the numbers to increase the military will be difficult in light of the events of the past few years, and I don't personally think it will happen anytime soon, but we'll see.

    "Bush’s campaign manager, Ken Mehlman, said Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld already has authorized 30,000 more troops through extended tours and new recruitment. "

    And that worked out brilliantly under Bush and Rumsfeld over the past couple of years, didn't it? Oh, and by the way, continuing the stop-loss program to make up for troop numbers will only weaken our military, both over the short term and the long term.

    "He said the country would be less safe in response to Kerrys’s position on missle defense."

    Again with the mind reading. The article isn't entirely clear on that point and while it's possible that is what he was referring, to, we haven't exactly had much success on the Star Wars front since then, have we? So either way, Mehlman had his head up a certain orifice.

    "This Story was dredged up to make it appear that Bush flip-flopped on adding troops,"

    He clearly did flip-flop. He said one thing then, and then says a different thing now. That is the Republican definition of a flip-flop.

    "and to further criticize his management of the war."

    Hey, you just made a true statement! Congratulations!

    "There are enough reasons for criticism without having to be dishonest about them. "

    The only dishonesty here is Bush's and yours. Now go outside and get some fresh air. It'll do your brain some good.


  142. 20wordsorless Says:

    #137

    You're confusing two separate issues--increasing the overall size of the army, and sending more troops into Iraq.


  143. 20wordsorless Says:

    Sean C.

    Apparently context has no meaning for you whatsoever.


  144. The American Street » Blog Archive » Guns or Butter Says:

    [...] Dear Leader wants a bigger military. But when John Kerry campaigned on that idea, Team BushCo greeted it with typical short-sighted, politically motivated derision: (from Think Progress) Democrat John Kerry said Thursday that if he’s elected commander in chief, his “first order of business” will be to enlarge the military to end the “back-door draft” that he says President Bush has created by requiring thousands of troops to extend their tours in Iraq. [...]


  145. hellinabucket Says:

    What context does the "stop loss" order fall into then. Don't increase the military but stretch it out.


  146. Gregor Samsa Says:

    You’re confusing two separate issues–increasing the overall size of the army, and sending more troops into Iraq.
    Comment by 20wordsorless — December 20, 2006 @ 4:04 pm

    So Pres Bush didn't contradict himself? Is that what you are saying?

    Hhmm, let's see. From the June 14th statement: "The Administration opposes increases in minimum active Army and Marine Corps end strengths in Title IV, because they could require DoD to maintain a higher personnel level than is needed."

    Ok, I go it: No more troops are needed. We are fine with the numbers we have.

    From the Washington Post article: "In another turnaround, Bush said he has ordered Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates to develop a plan to increase the troop strength of the Army and Marine Corps,[...]"

    Ok, so we do need more troops. We are not fine with the numbers we have.

    Notice how Iraq is not mentioned. Can you explain how this is not a contradiction? How it is not a flip-flop?

    This on top of the first turnaround, which is Pres Bush's admission that the US is not "winning" the war in Iraq.


  147. tom baker Says:

    Hey!!! What are all these damned carts doing in front of my horses!! Damn that Bill Clinton!!


  148. Bush to Expand Size of Military :: SOTUblog Says:

    [...] Updated 12/20/06, 2:43: In 2004, President Bush trashed the Democratic candidate, Senator John Kerry, and his plan to increase the size of the military. [...]


  149. Peavine Pipes Says:

    I see a muslim.I am gonna shake em down.If they refuse,I will mug them to make sure they are on the up and up.If they pan out.They go free.If they don`t they go to the county jail.My uncle is the county sherrif and we are all on the lookout for them.They better not be coming around my county.We got locals patrolling and drinking beer looking for them in their pickups.My uncle is the county sherrif so no one can stop us.It is like open season on muslims in my county here in Va.There isn`t going to be any muslim papers on no walls around here as long as my uncle is sherrif,I got my pickup truck,and I have plenty of beer.They say you can`t shoot straight 3 sheets into the wind.Aint true.We had us a muslim family from the city checking out houses the other day around here.One of my buddies got on the radio and told me they was over there at that house trying to buy it of all things.Well,that was the old Chester place for God sakes!We aint going to have no muslims defiling the old chester house bed and breakfast.They was standing there waiting on the realtor from the city i guess.My buddy and I Dwayne met up on opposite ends of the block so they couldn`t get away.We both roll our windows down and take a couple of shots over their heads of course.Told them to get the hell out,they wasn`t wanted.Course no one reports me and dwayne around here for nothing that we do.They know better.Besides,my uncle is the county sherrif and he thinks the same way that we do.I am proud to and will do it again running them damn muslims out of our berg of the woods.You people like the damn muslims so much?Let them move to your state.We`ll come and find them there.Wherever they live.We are called the Lookouts for Freedom group and the locals are more than happy to have us.


  150. Exactly11words Says:

    20wordsorless,
    Anyone trying to read your mind would end up on empty.


  151. chimpeach Says:

    #149 Peavine Pipes

    Well, your story has a lot of specifics. It should be pretty easy to check out. If it's not fiction, you might getting a visit pretty soon. You'll enjoy prison. There are a lot of people just like you there.


  152. nikolai Says:

    Peavine Pipes, heh, heh, heh! Yup, yur durn tootin! I live in Fenix, aridzona, and we shoot first and ask kwestuns later! We blast away at anyone with a turban or any other kind of funny head gear! We done kilt a lot of folks who weren't muslims, but heck, that there is the price of free-dumb!


  153. poland Says:

    You Forgot Poland!


  154. Zooey Says:

    Poland,

    Buy yourself something pretty and fix up your hair -- stop being so forgettable!!


  155. Tim Manning Says:

    "All the world's a stage" said Shakespeare. Bush and Kerry are both bought and paid for. Skull and Bones, Illuminati. Enjoy Act III folks.


  156. pete Says:

    i truly believe that bush has a god complex, i guess being "the decider" makes him feel that way.
    in reality, bush is in way over his head, unable to win the illegal war that he started. the slaughter of innocent women and babies has ensured that america will be the target of terrorists for decades to come.



  157. Think Progress » U.S. Military Officials: Bush Trying To Bribe Us To Support Iraq Escalation Says:

    [...] In the 2004 campaign, Bush repeatedly attacked Sen. John Kerry’s (D-MA) proposal to expand the Army by 40,000 troops. As recently as six months ago, a “Statement of Administration Policy” stated that the administration “opposes increases in minimum active Army and Marine Corps end strengths.” Bush’s plan to send 15,000 to 30,000 more U.S. troops to Iraq has been unanimously opposed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, as well as by Gen. John Abizaid, the top U.S. commander in the Middle East. [...]


  158. Daniel Says:

    Its springtime for Bush


  159. nikolai Says:

    Bu$h really does look like a little chimp in the pic at the beginning, doesn't he?


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