Sen. Norm Coleman (R-MN) opposes Iraq escalation.
By on Dec 20th, 2006 at 5:13 pm
Sen. Norm Coleman (R-MN) opposes Iraq escalation.
Coleman “said today after a two-day trip to Iraq that he would not support an increase in the number of soldiers in Baghdad. He said he would ’stand against’ any effort to send a surge of more troops to Baghdad unless there’s a clear vision that it will help end sectarian violence in the city. ‘I think it would create more targets. I think we would put more life at risk,’ he said.”
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Yes Norm, now call for Bush to be impeached, and you might get re-elected again!
December 20th, 2006 at 5:19 pmBut the Decider won’t listen to him……. he is just a Republican!
The hyenas are turning on their own kind.
December 20th, 2006 at 5:21 pmNormy wants to get relected in Minnesota and he knows Al Franken is coming for his sorry ass so now it is flip-flop time…..Plus Norm won’t have the help of his dear father who was arrested for banging some young girl in public.
Good luck Norm, keep smiling through your fake teeth.
-GSD
December 20th, 2006 at 5:21 pmLooks like SOMEONE’S looking ahead toward re-election…
December 20th, 2006 at 5:22 pmIsn’t Norm about due to change parties again?
December 20th, 2006 at 5:23 pm“Outlawed: Extraordinary Rendition, Torture and Disappearances in the ‘War on Terror’” tells the stories of Khaled El-Masri and Binyam Mohamed, two men who have survived extraordinary rendition, secret detention, and torture by the U.S. government working with various other governments worldwide. “Outlawed” features relevant commentary from Louise Arbour, the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights, U.S. President George W. Bush, Michael Scheuer, the chief architect of the rendition program and former head of the Osama Bin Laden unit at the CIA, and Condoleezza Rice, the U.S. Secretary of State.
“Outlawed” places the post-9/11 phenomenon of renditions and the “war on terror” in a human rights context and calls for action end these human rights abuses.
NB Witness was founded in 1992 by musician and activist Peter Gabriel and the Reebok Human Rights Foundation as a project of the Lawyers Committee for Human Rights (now Human Rights First). It aims to use the power of video to open the eyes of the world to human rights abuses.
YOU ARE A VERY SICK NATION AFTER WATCHING THE VIDEO OUTLAWED ………………I now wash my hands of you whole F()CKING COUTRY ARESHOLES ___GOODBYE FOREVER
December 20th, 2006 at 5:24 pmEven though I know this is all politics, the more like Norm who speak up like this the better.
December 20th, 2006 at 5:24 pmHey everyone!!! Look at what I found!! Anyone seen unbelievable?……..Looks under podium laughing…….Nope no unbelievable under there.
hahahahaaaaaaaa
This is off of this thread – House Armed Services Chairman ‘Extremely Concerned’ With Iraq Escalation Plans -Dec. 18 ,2006
Available in older posts section for free and at absolutely no charge. You have to read the whole thread to appreciate it.It`s a real gem.
Not so fast;I have one thing I’d like to add to this discussion.
Atleast twice in the last 50 posts,unbelievable said that she ‘doesn’t lie’.
Yet she told me,thus everyone else on this blog,last spring,that her Mother was dead.This turned out NOT to be TRUE.
Now answer your own question: What kind of person would say that about their own Mother just for the sake of winning an argument?
Now you all are beginning to see why I’ve had such acrimony with her in the past.
Just for the record,BnF, I never,ever,insulted her Mother,that’s if you were referring to something I might have said.
She told me her Mom was dead after I said she probably lives at home with her Mom.
All this can be found in the archives.
This is who you are dealing with,and she has no respect.
Comment by Si Byl — December 20, 2006 @ 2:22 am
Trueblue,
Of course, Unbelievable is offended by any remark about sexuality:
Men’s peak is 17, and women’s is 40. I’m guessing I’m closer to 40 than you are to 17? :)
Comment by unbelievable — April 17, 2006 @ 4:03 pm
and:
I think it’s a plot by women in their 40’s so they can get 17 year old men :)
Comment by Tundra — April 17, 2006 @ 4:19 pm
I assure you, that’s mostly a guy fanatasy. As men age they get better in other ways. :)
Comment by unbelievable — April 17, 2006 @ 4:29 pm
and this:
If a course is called “Shaving your legs†there is no reason to discuss how to braid leghair (That’s for unbelievable)
Comment by Tundra — April 17, 2006 @ 8:34 pm
Flirting with me again, I see ; )
Comment by unbelievable — April 17, 2006 @ 8:49 pm
finally capped of by this:
If I were asked for a one line answer to the question “What makes a woman good in bed?†I would say, “A man who is good in bed.â€
- – Bob Guccione (1978)
Comment by unbelievable — April 18, 2006 @ 4:51 pm
and the email Unbelievable misquotes?
“If I were asked for a one line answer to the question “What makes a woman good in bed?†I would say, “A man who is good in bed.â€
- – Bob Guccione (1978)
Comment by unbelievable â€
amen to that!!! (care to put the hypothesis to a test? —just kidding…)
Perhaps it is Unbelievable who is envious of my spirituality. She has derided the thought of breathing a cloud away, yet I’ve taught others to do so as well.
Perhaps she was offended because I was just kidding. After all, I have mentioned on these boards that I wear a kilt. And you know what they say about a woman scorned. I mean, to take what I wrote and somehow twist that into insinuating that I, a married man, was interested in having an adulterous affair with someone who lives a couple of thousand miles away takes either dimentia, a great imagination, or wishful thinking.
And Trueblue, as you can see, a shaman would say “Amen.â€
There’s another word, a greeting, I say to you:
Namaste.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — December 19, 2006 @ 7:53 pm
December 20th, 2006 at 5:25 pmColeman, proof that the “R” doesn’t always have to mean “R”etarded.
December 20th, 2006 at 5:28 pmIsn’t it interesting how all the Republicans up for reelection in ‘08 are NOW opposing troop escalation? First Smith in Oregon, now Coleman in MN… who’s next?
December 20th, 2006 at 5:33 pm#7
Even though I know this is all politics, the more like Norm who speak up like this the better.
Nobody like Norm should be speaking up. He will say anything, but if it comes down to his vote to decide something, he’s going to do as his party wishes regardless of what he promised everyone else.
He told everyone he’d vote against drilling in ANWR, but when they held the vote, he waited in the back of the room to see if his vote would be needed by the Republicans. He didn’t vote against it until after it had already lost. He’s a slimy little worm and he knows it.
And there ain’t no way he’s going to win in ‘08. I think he’s starting to sense that, too.
December 20th, 2006 at 5:34 pm#8 – seek help, it’s out there.
December 20th, 2006 at 5:34 pmColeman is a craven opportunist. He is also a small timer. The last election he won in the conventional sense of the term was the St. Paul mayoral race. He only won his Senate seat because Wellstone died. The Republicans put him in charge of an ethics committee because they understand that Norm is a weakling and a follower who would do their bidding.
December 20th, 2006 at 5:37 pmNorm Coleman former patriot is now a treasonous liberal scum – bag. How long before we hear something like that from Savage, Clouter, Malkin, and others of their ilk.
December 20th, 2006 at 5:37 pmIt’s a sad day when a Repug has more morals than Harry Reid does.
December 20th, 2006 at 5:38 pm#11 chimpeach
i think this time will be different. if he doesn’t vote how he talks that will work against him. this time with the dems having the majority, it is more likely that the dems will be passing stuff with or without his vote, so if he votes along party lines despite what he says then that is something else to use as a cudgel against him during the campaign.
December 20th, 2006 at 5:39 pmGive me secular America or give me death!!Bring them damn camel jockeys on.We`ll fight them over HERE and OVER THERE too.Too many of them.We is about to be overrun.Jump on board now.Get a second juob so you`ll pay more taxes that will buy more bombs that will kill more Islamic infidels.Or make a donation to any forming organization out there….and there are many….to keep this scourge out of America.God Bless you.And MERRY CHRISTMAS!!
December 20th, 2006 at 5:49 pm[...] Even a so far loyal ally of Bush opposes Bush’s escalation plans: here. Comments » [...]
December 20th, 2006 at 5:51 pm#15 null
It’s a sad day when a Repug has more morals than Harry Reid does.
Let’s not be silly. Norm Coleman has never been anything but a political opportunist of the most cynical kind. His own state senate district voted against him in ‘02 by a huge margin. Those who are familiar with him are not fond of him.
December 20th, 2006 at 5:54 pmWhat a difference an election makes!
December 20th, 2006 at 6:07 pmHere’s some more interesting stuff on Coleman
from
http://vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=CMN26428&type=category&category=Foreign%2BAid%2Band%2BPolicy%2BIssues&go.x=7&go.y=10
2003-2004 Based on a point system, with points assigned for actions in support of or in opposition to American Muslims for Jerusalem’s position, Senator Coleman received a rating of -6.
2003-2004 Based on a point system, with points assigned for actions in support of or in opposition to U.S. Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation’s position, Senator Coleman received a rating of -4.
How do you get a negative four rating????
December 20th, 2006 at 6:14 pmYou’d have to be a total idiot to be a Repugnicant congressman and be supportive of Bush’s Iraq non-policy. Watch the fun as the party deserts its leader…
December 20th, 2006 at 6:16 pmMany people appear to oppose the Iraq escalation. Meanwhile, our supreme law enforcement agency, the Executive Branch of the United States Government, is going ahead with the escalation of Iraq. WTF?
December 20th, 2006 at 6:19 pmI really don’t think I need to watch Extra tonight, there’s some serious juice right here on this thread. Interesting.
December 20th, 2006 at 6:23 pm#22 RC,
December 20th, 2006 at 6:25 pmI’d love to have the slo-mo of the rats as they headfirst it off the listing SS Bushite.
Their beady little eyes wide open, tails all a twitter as the water rushes up to meet them.
As a Minnesota resisdent, I wrote Senator Coleman about this today, congratulating him for taking this wise stand and encouraging him to take it further – to push for full, immediate withdrawal… even going so far as to support impeachment if the president proceeds with the “surge.” I wrote the letter in a politically neutral way and advised that Minnesotans like me would support the candidate that is for full, immediate withdrawal from Iraq. Public opinion here is strongly against the war now and we showed it in November. No matter how elaborate a PR scam the republicans pull for this, nobody’s gonna believe them anymore. I am anxious to see the reply from ol’ Norm.
December 20th, 2006 at 6:38 pmNow here’s a guy who is worried about being reelected!
December 20th, 2006 at 7:15 pmIsn’t it amazing how the worms turn when the chips are down with a lameduck preznut and an administration about to be put on trial?? It’s called “Rats Leaving a Sinking Ship”. Hah!
December 20th, 2006 at 7:16 pmThis “surge” will become the “Purge” of President George W. Bush! Let the surging and purging roll! It’s time for a little turnabout being fair play by the people~
December 20th, 2006 at 7:17 pmNorm Coleman is a traitor to America and it`s citizens.He should be found guilty of treason and hanged by the neck until dead.
December 20th, 2006 at 8:15 pmI see a muslim.I am gonna shake em down.If they refuse,I will mug them to make sure they are on the up and up.If they pan out.They go free.If they don`t they go to the county jail.My uncle is the county sherrif and we are all on the lookout for them.They better not be coming around my county.We got locals patrolling and drinking beer looking for them in their pickups.My uncle is the county sherrif so no one can stop us.It is like open season on muslims in my county here in Va.There isn`t going to be any muslim papers on no walls around here as long as my uncle is sherrif,I got my pickup truck,and I have plenty of beer.They say you can`t shoot straight 3 sheets into the wind.Aint true.We had us a muslim family from the city checking out houses the other day around here.One of my buddies got on the radio and told me they was over there at that house trying to buy it of all things.Well,that was the old Chester place for God sakes!We aint going to have no muslims defiling the old chester house bed and breakfast.They was standing there waiting on the realtor from the city i guess.My buddy and I Dwayne met up on opposite ends of the block so they couldn`t get away.We both roll our windows down and take a couple of shots over their heads of course.Told them to get the hell out,they wasn`t wanted.Course no one reports me and dwayne around here for nothing that we do.They know better.Besides,my uncle is the county sherrif and he thinks the same way that we do.I am proud to and will do it again running them damn muslims out of our berg of the woods.You people like the damn muslims so much?Let them move to your state.We`ll come and find them there.Wherever they live.We are called the Lookouts for Freedom group and the locals are more than happy to have us.
December 20th, 2006 at 8:17 pm“I am a 99 percent improvement over Paul Wellstone.”
December 20th, 2006 at 8:24 pmNorm Coleman, April 8, 2003.
Athecysts? Get off of your lazy democratic asses.
Christians Outwork Atheists
Relative to our good old European counterparts, it appears we Americans are setting a bad example for the world by working so damn hard.
The following is an excerpt from an article in the New York Times titled \”Why America Outpaces Europe (Clue: The God Factor).\” The article gives an overview of the religious basis for America\’s sustained economic productivity, as compared with Europe\’s increasing secularization, and subsequent economic stagnation.
December 20th, 2006 at 8:31 pmWhat clinches the Weber thesis is that Northern Europe\’s declines in working hours coincide almost exactly with steep declines in religious observance. In the Netherlands, Britain, Germany, Sweden and Denmark, less than 10 percent of the population now attend church at least once a month, a dramatic decline since the 1960\’s. (Only in Catholic Italy and Ireland do more than a third of the population go to church on a monthly basis.) In the recent Gallup Millennium Survey of religious attitudes, 49 percent of Danes, 52 percent of Norwegians and 55 percent of Swedes said God did not matter to them. In North America, by comparison, 82 percent of respondents said God was \”very importan
So what? It’s not like chimpy will care.
December 20th, 2006 at 8:48 pmBoy, that’s some idiotic stuff right there. It’s not like Americans CHOSE to have less vacation time and sick time. Jeez.
Jesus said that it is very difficult for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. He also said that if you want to go to heaven you have to give up all your possessions and follow him.
If that doesn’t sound like economic stagnation, I don’t know what does.
Get it straight. Riches and Christianity weren’t intended to mix.
December 20th, 2006 at 9:01 pmI wonder if old Papa Coleman is still getting lucky in the parking lots of fast food places. Heh.
December 20th, 2006 at 9:25 pmI wonder if old Papa Coleman is still getting lucky in the parking lots of fast food places. Heh.
Comment by Zooey
Oh yeah? Whats the dirt?
December 20th, 2006 at 9:33 pmNorm Coleman is an empty suit that will say or do anything that he thinks is politically expedient at the moment. He’s been carrying water for this administration, attacking its critics relentlessly for years. Now he’s worried about re-election.
December 20th, 2006 at 9:53 pmNorm’s daddy, who is about 90 years old, was caught getting down and dirty with a lady in a car, in the parking lot of a fastfood place. Norm was ever so embarrassed, and I think he put him in a home. TP did a thread on it, but i have no idea how to find it.
December 20th, 2006 at 9:54 pmZooey, if pops wasn’t a righty I would worship him!!
December 20th, 2006 at 10:05 pmHa, ha the relegation to minority status can do wonders.
December 20th, 2006 at 10:08 pmZooey, if pops wasn’t a righty I would worship him!!
Comment by JPark
I have great respect for the man — even though he raised Norm Jr.
December 20th, 2006 at 10:13 pm#42 Yeah, that kinda blows his deity status.
December 20th, 2006 at 10:16 pmAnother Republican who has seen the light? Yeah, right. He’s only saying that because his seat could be in blue hands in two years.
December 20th, 2006 at 10:32 pmDoesn’t anyone here wonder why the national debate has turned from us pulling the troops out of Iraq (before the elections) to increasing the troops levels. TP is posting a republican that is advocating no increase in troop levels. 2 months ago that would not have been news. My take is that a consensus is building (in both parties) that it is a bad idea to withdraw troops now or in the short run. I’m curious what others here think.
December 20th, 2006 at 10:48 pmColeman still has red marks on his face from the bitch-slapping George Galloway layed on him a while back.
December 20th, 2006 at 10:51 pmPaul, no. The concensus is that we should get the hell out and a Republican bucking the Bush administration is news. Two seperate issues.
December 20th, 2006 at 10:53 pm#33 Peavine Pipes
Christians Outwork Atheists
Relative to our good old European counterparts, it appears we Americans are setting a bad example for the world by working so damn hard.
How about our good old Japanese counterparts (84% Shinto and Buddhist, .7% Christian)? Do you have some data that show how we stack up against them?
Or our good old Chinese counterparts (offically atheist; Taoist, Buddhist, Christian 3%-4%)? Any data on Chinese productivity?
Would you like some time to go think that one through some more? Take a week. Take two.
December 20th, 2006 at 11:05 pmMaybe Peavine Pipes can explain how the French have achieved the highest worker productivity in the world.
Europeans work fewer hours by national choice. They are not lazy. Germans are not lazy. Swedes are not lazy. The French are not lazy. They just happen to value personal time, vacation time, and family time. I’ll wager that European families spend more time together than American families. But we know that the “family values” crowd in this country are mostly a bunch of hypocrites.
December 20th, 2006 at 11:45 pmEven though I know this is all politics, the more like Norm who speak up like this the better.
Coleman, probably wants one last chance to get a hard on for George Galloway… get him over here for questioning…. whatever. Any limp excuse Norm can find to get seen in Minnesota, he’ll take it.
December 21st, 2006 at 12:02 amSpeaking as a responsible and enlightened Conservative, I am in favor of sending more troops to Iraq, as that will result in a significant and tax advantaged return from my overweighted investment strategy in WarHawk Stock. USA! USA!
December 21st, 2006 at 12:07 am33:
What are you talking about? Other then the article you referenced, have you ever read Weber? Weber was not saying that it was a good thing that certain sects of Christians found salvation through materiality, thus working harder to gain that materiality and eventually distorting the meaning of salvation. This is so typical. Take something that means one thing and distort, twist, and eventually f**k it up the arse until it becomes something that you want it to be.
Weber traced the origins of the Protestant ethic to the Reformation. In his opinion, under the Roman Catholic Church, an individual could be assured of salvation by belief in the church’s sacraments and the authority of its hierarchy. However, the Reformation had effectively removed such assurances.
From a purely technical and theological viewpoint, the Reformation did not remove assurances of salvation. However, from a psychological viewpoint, the average person had difficulty adjusting to this new worldview, and only the most devout believers or “religious geniuses” within Protestanism, such as Martin Luther, were able to make this adjustment, according to Weber.
In the absence of such assurances from religious authority, Weber argued that Protestants began to look for other “signs” that they were saved. Worldly success became one measure of salvation. Anticipating Adam Smith (but using a very different argument), Luther had made an early endorsement of the division of labor that was beginning to develop in Europe. Therefore, according to Weber’s reading of Luther, a “vocation” from God was no longer limited to the clergy or church, but applied to any occupation or trade.
December 21st, 2006 at 12:29 amPeavine this is your moma. Why are you tri’n too right to these nice peepls these way. Are you on the pipe agin. When U get bac to the trailer to nite imma gonna give u a watt for U litel bastard. U tell thees nicum peeples that U wont be bugin agin.
December 21st, 2006 at 12:48 amThat`s right!! Si Byl had nothing to do with the postings.I did it.For one simple reason.unbelievable needed to be exposed for the little lying brat that she is.Since she has been exposed and refused to apologize to the board.The postings have now ceased because of one Zooey had asked me very kindly to stop.Her wish has been granted.
Unbelievable,you seem to sweep what your lying words mean to people as you sweep crumbs off the shelf right into the garbage can.You have no need for anyone but yourself.No details necessary.You have shown your ass.To me.To others.
To all the posters on this board.You have shown your real you.It is a very dark and very ugly person that you are.
I trust you`ll be having no problems with posters here in the future.
And try not to play the victim in this when you are anything but.
signed,
Pissed Off Ex Poster little birdie
December 21st, 2006 at 2:57 amTo Juan C. and whomever is concerned:
I had nothing to do with the multiple postings today;I don’t even know how to cut and paste.
December 21st, 2006 at 3:05 amNorm’s daddy, who is about 90 years old, was caught getting down and dirty with a lady in a car, in the parking lot of a fastfood place. Norm was ever so embarrassed, and I think he put him in a home. TP did a thread on it, but i have no idea how to find it.
Comment by Zooey
If you use “the Google” to search for Norman Coleman’s father, you’ll find some links to the story, though I’m not sure if TP’s thread is among them.
December 21st, 2006 at 7:52 amYou cannot erase years of lies with few statements before election arrives. Voters beware…..
December 21st, 2006 at 10:20 am#46 -Above The Clouds….I was about to type the same thing..but you were ahead of me…I rememebr how British PM George Galloway gave him an icy cold shower during the Senate hearing he assembled. That was fun to watch.
December 21st, 2006 at 10:30 amColeman’s such a weasel.
He’s up for reelection in 2008 and he’s trying to change his record on Iraq.
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