He’s up for reelection in 2008 and he’s trying to change his record on Iraq.

If you use “the Google” to search for Norman Coleman’s father, you’ll find some links to the story, though I’m not sure if TP’s thread is among them.

I had nothing to do with the multiple postings today;I don’t even know how to cut and paste.

Unbelievable,you seem to sweep what your lying words mean to people as you sweep crumbs off the shelf right into the garbage can.You have no need for anyone but yourself.No details necessary.You have shown your ass.To me.To others.
To all the posters on this board.You have shown your real you.It is a very dark and very ugly person that you are.
I trust you`ll be having no problems with posters here in the future.
And try not to play the victim in this when you are anything but.

signed,

Pissed Off Ex Poster little birdie

Athecysts? Get off of your lazy democratic asses.

Christians Outwork Atheists

What are you talking about? Other then the article you referenced, have you ever read Weber? Weber was not saying that it was a good thing that certain sects of Christians found salvation through materiality, thus working harder to gain that materiality and eventually distorting the meaning of salvation. This is so typical. Take something that means one thing and distort, twist, and eventually f**k it up the arse until it becomes something that you want it to be.

Weber traced the origins of the Protestant ethic to the Reformation. In his opinion, under the Roman Catholic Church, an individual could be assured of salvation by belief in the church’s sacraments and the authority of its hierarchy. However, the Reformation had effectively removed such assurances.

From a purely technical and theological viewpoint, the Reformation did not remove assurances of salvation. However, from a psychological viewpoint, the average person had difficulty adjusting to this new worldview, and only the most devout believers or “religious geniuses” within Protestanism, such as Martin Luther, were able to make this adjustment, according to Weber.

In the absence of such assurances from religious authority, Weber argued that Protestants began to look for other “signs” that they were saved. Worldly success became one measure of salvation. Anticipating Adam Smith (but using a very different argument), Luther had made an early endorsement of the division of labor that was beginning to develop in Europe. Therefore, according to Weber’s reading of Luther, a “vocation” from God was no longer limited to the clergy or church, but applied to any occupation or trade.

Coleman, probably wants one last chance to get a hard on for George Galloway… get him over here for questioning…. whatever. Any limp excuse Norm can find to get seen in Minnesota, he’ll take it.

Europeans work fewer hours by national choice. They are not lazy. Germans are not lazy. Swedes are not lazy. The French are not lazy. They just happen to value personal time, vacation time, and family time. I’ll wager that European families spend more time together than American families. But we know that the “family values” crowd in this country are mostly a bunch of hypocrites.

Christians Outwork Atheists

Relative to our good old European counterparts, it appears we Americans are setting a bad example for the world by working so damn hard.

How about our good old Japanese counterparts (84% Shinto and Buddhist, .7% Christian)? Do you have some data that show how we stack up against them?

Or our good old Chinese counterparts (offically atheist; Taoist, Buddhist, Christian 3%-4%)? Any data on Chinese productivity?

Would you like some time to go think that one through some more? Take a week. Take two.

I have great respect for the man — even though he raised Norm Jr.