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Is there enough data storage to hold all that information? The Repugs seem to manufacture this faster than it can be captured!
And who will be the “Decider”?
December 22nd, 2006 at 7:42 pmI nominate you upside 00.. First one out of the dug out get’s to be batter up…You be our decider….What say the rest of the poster’s.?…Let the game’s begin…Blessings
December 22nd, 2006 at 7:55 pmSo many of the comments are so detached from reality is actually unsettling to think these people have an audience.
The number and absurdity of the quotes are simply staggering. Like Michael Savage’s rant on Blitzer -which more like a projection, given that Savage himself is Jewish but will not pass on an opportunity to make anti-semitic comments.
Why do conservatives like to listen to hate messages so much anyway? I wouldn’t want to listen to all these death wishes, immature fantasies about war and destruction, all the fearmongering, let alone be looking for someone to put down or smear. Living in Wingnutia must be really scary.
December 22nd, 2006 at 8:09 pmSimply stunning.
“It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.”
December 22nd, 2006 at 8:38 pmOh yeah, upside00 for Decider.
Heh.
December 22nd, 2006 at 8:39 pm“Al Gore is a total fag.” I like that one.
December 22nd, 2006 at 8:39 pmBAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) — The leader of an umbrella organization for Iraqi insurgent groups is offering the United States a one-month truce to withdraw all U.S. forces from Iraq and turn over its military bases “to the mujahedeen of the Islamic state.”
We can talk about this one. I bet we say no to that deal. Ok next item…
December 22nd, 2006 at 8:41 pmAh, the Racist Party in all their glory. Let’s see, they hate Muslims, gays, blacks, Latinos, Hollywood actors, minimum wage earners, atheists, Jews, the UN….That leaves them as the party of White Christians…..but they sure reacted poorly when Dr. Howard Dean said that they were the party of white Christians.
The truth hurts.
-GSD
December 22nd, 2006 at 8:44 pmWe can talk about this one. I bet we say no to that deal. Ok next item…
Comment by ForTruth
We’ll say no to that deal because it wasn’t “the Decider’s*” idea.
*GWB, not upside00
December 22nd, 2006 at 8:46 pmpersonally i just love glenn beck’s comment. hey beck, prove to us you aren’t working for them yourself!
December 22nd, 2006 at 8:47 pmMy vote goes to any undecipherable baloney uttered by this moron –> http://thumbsnap.com/v/6YvXAPG0.jpg
December 22nd, 2006 at 8:54 pmWhy do conservatives like to listen to hate messages so much anyway? I wouldn’t want to listen to all these death wishes, immature fantasies about war and destruction, all the fearmongering, let alone be looking for someone to put down or smear. Living in Wingnutia must be really scary.
Comment by Gregor Samsa — December 22, 2006 @ 8:09 pm
It’s called over-compensation.
December 22nd, 2006 at 9:01 pmWhy do conservatives like to listen to hate messages so much anyway?
Because they are hateful.
December 22nd, 2006 at 9:42 pmZooey,
I could NEVER fill Dubya’s shoes! (Thank Freakin’ God)
December 22nd, 2006 at 9:51 pmDo GOPers ever say anything nice about anybody?
As for Al Gore is is straight, not a fag, so Ann Coulter is stupid!
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:03 pmI could NEVER fill Dubya’s shoes! (Thank Freakin’ God)
Comment by upside00
But you would do a better job!
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:03 pmI mean, you couldn’t possibly do worse, right?
Al Gore does not hang drapes. Not sure what that is about.
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:05 pmAs for Al Gore he is straight, so a typo error for me to say “is” twice.
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:06 pmZooey > why do GOPer trolls come on here and call us sexually wierd things? If anybody said this stuff to our faces in public, then they would get punched out, so I find their comments rude on here at times.
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:10 pm#19 Don’t be too upset. They are still in the closet.
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:16 pmJay,
The trolls were especially sick the last few days, and they certainly “liked” me, didn’t they? I really appreciate so many of you guys coming to my defense. :)
They come here to say that shit, because last time they said it to someone’s face, they probably got kicked in the nuts. Even trolls can learn, in their own primitive way.
They are teeny tiny beings. And they know it.
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:16 pm#21 It is like when they were in second grade and thought it was suave to pull your hair…they never grew out of it.
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:20 pmSomehow, JPark, I think the ones saying the nasty crap were the ones staying the classroom for recess, because they didn’t know how to be around the other kids. You know, the ones I’m talking about.
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:28 pmSomeone make a decision here.
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:28 pmYes the GOPers act immature > they even tell fart jokes, so they act like 12 to 15 years old in age. The ones that have to tell every detail about Gay sex are truely closeted and need to get counseling badly!
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:32 pmOk, Truth, they are nasty little snots who deserve to have their dicks nailed to the floor with a nail gun.
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:33 pm#23 Actually, we rarely had kids in detention. Back then bullying was ok.
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:33 pm#26 Hmm, I would have to agree with that…as painful as it sounds. Might want to take the old staple gun to the testes too.
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:35 pmDamn, Zooey!
That’s gotta hurt!
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:36 pmThe ones that have to tell every detail about Gay sex are truely closeted and need to get counseling badly!
Comment by Jay Randal
I don’t know how they could really know all the details. They could use their imagination and figure out what’s going on, but they couldn’t know all the workings. They had to be there, I guess.
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:36 pmI have this edgy feeling today, like Bush is up to something nasty and vile, but I hope it’s just the lousy rainy weather in Georgia tonight bothering me. Dubya and Dicky have been too subdued lately, so I hope they do not pull a false flag terror attack on us for New Year’s!
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:37 pmJPark,
I probably made you guys wince a little with one, huh? Sorry!
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:39 pmConservative syndicated radio host Michael Medved on the animated movie Happy Feet: The film contains “a whole subtext, as there so often is, about homosexuality.” [12/11/06]
This is a good one too. These closet cases see gayness everywhere.
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:40 pmWould someone please give the Great Decider a bl*w job so we can impeach him?
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:43 pmI wonder whether Mit Romney in Mass. or Charley Crist in Florida might be outed, with proof next, like what happened to Ted Haggard? They both deserve to be outed, but somebody has to have pics or other evidence on them!
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:46 pmPost 34 I think Jeff Gannon has done that already, or Bush has done Jeff, but the press does not seem to care > strange?
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:48 pm#34
As a straight man, I’d have to seriously consider taking one for the team, if it meant seeing Bush/Cheney removed.
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:53 pmI know this comment wasnt in the list but I propose this one:
Whenever I want to masturbate, I read the Bible.
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:53 pmComment by Daryll
As a straight man, I’d have to seriously consider taking one for the team, if it meant seeing Bush/Cheney removed.
Comment by AkaDad
I nominate AkaDad to….do the horrible deed. :}
Do we have a second?
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:55 pmWhenever I want to masturbate, I read the Bible.
Comment by Daryll
Comment by Juan C
For inspiration…? Visuals…? :P
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:56 pmTough assignment AkaDad > just the thought of seeing Bush naked makes me ill > lol.
December 22nd, 2006 at 10:58 pm#8…they also hated the French..remember when two Republican Congressmen Walter Jones and Robert Ney changed the name of ‘French fries’ to ‘Freedom fries’…and ‘French toast’ to ‘Freedom toast’ just 10 days before the war started in 2003. as an anti-French protest for France disapproving of the war decision. Both Congressmen ordered the menu of the House cafeteria to be changed to the new names. Congressman Robert Ney of Ohio later quit the House and pleaded guilty of corruption.
December 22nd, 2006 at 11:11 pm#39 and #40
LOL
A true patriot puts his country before his sexuality. :D
December 22nd, 2006 at 11:13 pmAkaDad, the truest patriot on ThinkProgress.
Heh.
December 22nd, 2006 at 11:16 pmAlright Dad. I think.
December 22nd, 2006 at 11:19 pmActually in #43 should have said “their” instead of “his”, as if women aren’t patriots too.
December 22nd, 2006 at 11:21 pmAkaDad
December 22nd, 2006 at 11:27 pmWhat about Tom Cruise?
If he eats placenta… just saying…
Be aware that a troll is hijacking our screennames on the TP thread below this one. I do not understand why they do such juvinile stuff?
December 22nd, 2006 at 11:30 pmActually in #43 should have said “their†instead of “hisâ€, as if women aren’t patriots too.
Comment by AkaDad
That reminds me of something Dad. I think we should be fair and balanced here, and give women the opportunity to take one for the team as well.
December 22nd, 2006 at 11:31 pmAl Gore and the subject of homosexuality DO NOT belong in the same sentence. However, certain well-known politicans and the subject of homosexuality DO belong in the same sentence.
A series of outrageous comments are just days old. As much as I admire Rosie, and her talent, I think her comments about Donald Trump are rather foolish. We all say foolish things from time-to-time, but picking a fight with the Donald will deplete her bank account. Her bank account is already several million dollars lighter with her Broadway bomb. Now, here’s several hundred thousand dollars, or more, down the drain. Lawyers are not cheap. No, not high-powered lawyers charging several thousand dollars an hour.
Sadly, I think many people not only in show business, but in politics, thrive on controversy, threats, and confrontation.
It’s quite obvious that many in the Bush administration thrive on confrontation and controversy. I really think nothing makes Dick Cheney happier than being called an SOB.
John
December 22nd, 2006 at 11:33 pmI think we should be fair and balanced here, and give women the opportunity to take one for the team as well.
Comment by ForTruth
No, no, no, no. This is all about akaDad. Let’s not diminish his sacrifice and patriotism. :)
December 22nd, 2006 at 11:33 pmakaDad – you might want to quote James Bond, “The things I do for my queen!”
December 22nd, 2006 at 11:43 pm21, Zooey, we all like you.
December 22nd, 2006 at 11:44 pmBriseadh na Faire,
AkaDad is probably regretting he came here tonight. :)
December 22nd, 2006 at 11:44 pmThe stakes are high Zooey, everyone should have the opportunity.
December 22nd, 2006 at 11:46 pmComment by ForTruth — December 22, 2006 @ 11:31 pm
Ok, I nominate Mighty Aphrodite and Dick Cheney…they deserve each other.
December 22nd, 2006 at 11:47 pmZooey, we all like you.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
*blush*
Thank you for not liking me the way the trolls like me.
December 22nd, 2006 at 11:50 pmThe stakes are high Zooey, everyone should have the opportunity.
Comment by ForTruth
In the event AkaDad becomes ill, or is unable to carry out his stated goal, I nominate ForTruth as his stout-hearted second.
Godspeed, ForTruth, and thank you for your service.
December 22nd, 2006 at 11:52 pmAlright, well maybe a tranny.
December 22nd, 2006 at 11:56 pmSpeaking of outrageous comments, how about MA claiming to be a lawyer?
Or Hendler predicting the future?
Then there’s Exley, claiming to be an expert on everything.
December 22nd, 2006 at 11:57 pmI had to step away for a moment.
LOL @ all the comments
December 22nd, 2006 at 11:59 pm#58
I second the nomination…
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:00 amAkaDad,
Apparently it’s your turn to be picked on, since we have no trolls. :)
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:04 amBriseadh na Faire,
Hagette, Hendler & Exley are mere shadows of their former selves.
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:06 amIt’s all good. :)
Well I was impersonating a troll on an earlier thread…
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:08 am64 – it seems like they are missed…should I stop going all metaphysical on them?
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:11 am…should I stop going all metaphysical on them?
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
Oh hell no!
If you stop, I’ll start. Try anyway. :)
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:17 amit seems like they are missed…should I stop going all metaphysical on them?
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
You have illustrated the need for opposition, counterpoint, an opposite. It’s like good vs. evil. The need for “bad”, in order to be able to identify and distinguish “good”. People look at me perplexed when I say we wouldn’t know what good is, without the bad.
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:23 amYing and Yang mang.
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:24 amPeople look at me perplexed when I say we wouldn’t know what good is, without the bad.
Comment by ForTruth
What? *perplexed look* :)
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:25 amIt’s too late for all that…It’s done……Game Over…
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:26 amGood evening General Pain in the Ass. How are you?
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:27 amThe General is like Oscar the grouch. He lives in a trash can, is green, and no matter how hateful he gets, he never leaves us. How special.
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:29 am“The most outrageous comments of 2006.
ALL CAME FROM THINKPROGRESS AND ITS TRAITOROUS POSTERS.”
Comment by Gen. William Gunnison USMC ret. — December 23, 2006 @ 12:24 am
Yet the articles were all about republicans?
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:30 amSo where was Pat Robertson’s 3000 lb leg press?
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:32 amThat, and his power shake on sale at http://www.kismyas.com would get my vote!
Did I conjure up the ‘opposition’ just by talking and thinking about it? Quantum physics says yes. ;)
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:32 amHello Ya’ll again, I’m back from a break, so who’s the new general guy?
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:32 amComment by Gen. William Gunnison USMC ret. —
Didnt take long.
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:32 amAh, the Faux Generale is back!
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:33 amWelcome, mon ami!
My last duty station was Phu Bai, I corps HQ, Oct 69 – Feb 70.
Where pray tell was yours?
Did I conjure up the ‘opposition’ just by talking and thinking about it? Quantum physics says yes. ;)
Comment by ForTruth
We wouldn’t know the good with out the bad…
Somehow I’m perplexed by that. :)
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:33 am#14 Upside, sorry to weigh in so late, but I COULD fill GWB’s shoes, I’d just have to drink a case of beer first.
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:35 amI wish I could conjure up a big fat sandwich…
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:35 amI COULD fill GWB’s shoes, I’d just have to drink a case of beer first.
Comment by RUCerious
Ah, but what would you be filling those shoes with?
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:38 amZooey, methinks the general was on another hit (swig) and run mission…
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:38 amThis was such a pleasant thread until the General A**hole showed up.
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:39 amren,
Good luck conjuring the sandwich. Just remember, you’re already there. :)
The “General” is a really moronic troll from the last couple of days. That really couldn’t have been the “real General,” because he would have posted 20 times by now.
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:40 amSome,,,,,,day, Neil Young will take over and fix everything?????????
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:40 amI know he will……..I do……..
Yup, just tracked his spoor on the other topics. Wheew, the odor!
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:41 amZ- #84 one guess, and it has to do with bladder relief.
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:41 amI manipulated the General into leaving. He “showed me” who was in control. Right General Pippy?
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:44 amCome back General come back, we need the Yang. The Ying is nothing without the Yang.
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:45 amFT, I thought the Ying was the Thing, but the Yang was the Bang!
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:47 amI wish I could be a clown………………And the I could send people to their death’s…………….
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:48 amRUCerious,
I’ll take two Yang’s with a side of Ying, to go.
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:50 amMy latest bumper sticker…….
Patriotism =
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:54 amUSA Trucks + Arab Oil
I wish I could be a clown………………And the I could send people to their death’s…………….
Comment by ren
You might want to order in that sandwich…
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:03 amUniverse, please bring me peace on earth, and lower gas prices…
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:08 amZoe, Is this “hell pig”/ whatever his name was or, somebody else completely?
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:15 amComment by ForTruth — December 23, 2006 @ 1:08 am
ForTruth, if you knew how manifestation works, you would not be facetious in your requests. if you wish to understand metaphysics a bit more, email me at myspammailbox at hotmail dot com.
if not, then please be careful about what you wish for…you may get it….
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:18 amI wish for a Giant Sandwich…… but only i f I get two more wishesss…
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:21 amI do want those things. Sorry if I was facetious, I really do take that seriously.
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:22 amZoe, Is this “hell pigâ€/ whatever his name was or, somebody else completely?
Comment by ren
I think it’s f*cking vinnie.
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:24 amTwo chicks made a sandwich out of me once.
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:26 am[B!],
Isn’t that animal abuse? :)
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:28 amΩ-LOL
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:30 amB! left out the word knuckle before sandwich. =]
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:35 amhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16282622/wid/11915773?GT1=8816
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:37 amΩ: I must say;That was a heck of a zinger on your part.Good one.
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:38 amAkaDad:
That too. lol
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:39 amif you knew how manifestation works, you would not be facetious in your requests.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
The universe is somewhat 11-20 billion years old. BnF, do you think such an old substance would care for what some hundred of thousand beings would ask?
Im in my cosmogonical mood.
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:44 amThat was a heck of a zinger on your part.Good one.
Comment by [B!]
Although I am the Queen of the Zinger, right now it’s all about the chickens…
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:45 am#108 – Briseadh na Faire
For once your link sticks.
Hmmm…
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:47 amTo say the universe is 11-20 billion years old,you might as well say the universe is infinite [∞].
So my answer would be-YES. (why not?)
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:51 am#108
That link was interesting.
Regular romps can provide a host of physiological benefits
I may try that as a pickup line…
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:51 amTo say the universe is 11-20 billion years old,you might as well say the universe is infinite [∞].
So my answer would be-YES. (why not?)
Comment by [B!]
Infinity is a mathematical and art (poetry) concepts. It doesnt exist in real life. But, besides that… what???
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:54 am…..”all about the chickens…”.
Not sure I get that part. :-|
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:56 amI may try that as a pickup line…
Comment by AkaDad
People are more health-wise these days. It could work.
(FYI: I heard GWB is a health nut, too…) *wink*
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:58 amNot sure I get that part. :-|
Comment by [B!]
I’m still worried about your chicken sandwich abuse. Heh.
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:00 amGood link, BnF.
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:00 amI bet Daryll must be one sad, fat, depressed, non-smelling guy. :O
[∞] “It doesn’t exist in real life.”.
Do you have a link for that?
If math can prove infinity [∞],then it must exist.
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:02 amWow, Zoo.
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:03 amYou just made me cry. I just read your e-mail.
Thank you so much for those words. You are true gift.
Daryll will tell you the article is from the Devil.
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:04 amI bet Daryll must be one sad, fat, depressed, non-smelling guy. :O
Comment by Juan C
With heavy calluses on his hands — from reading his bible. :)
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:08 amDaryll will tell you the article is from the Devil.
Comment by ForTruth
MSNBC is the Devil….I bet Daryll knew that all along. Wow…
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:10 amThank you so much for those words. You are true gift.
Comment by Juan C
Thanks, friend. :)
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:11 amDo you have a link for that?
Comment by [B!]
ok…not sure what you will find, though.
If math can prove infinity [∞],then it must exist.
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:11 amIn the mathematical sense, yeah. The universe is certainly, really big, but if it can be measured, it is not infinite.
from reading his bible. :)
Comment by Zooey
Now I have to get one to avoid hand rugosity explanations… :{
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:13 amquote of the year may be colbert on that crackhead on cnn:
“finally someone who doesn’t think telling us what people who do not think think”
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:14 amWith heavy calluses on his hands — from reading his bible. :)
Thats so wrong-and probably why I laughed.
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:14 amWho did the measuring? You?
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:20 amHi, james…please, post the link of that one. Could you?
I laughed almost to death when I saw this one.
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:22 amYou?
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:23 amComment by [B!]
No, I just bought the wooden rule…
Thats so wrong-and probably why I laughed.
Comment by AkaDad
Daryll already has a seat reserved for me in hell, so I’m working on really deserving it. :)
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:24 amhi, juan!
here is a link to the original broadcast…it was jon stewart…this entire five minute clip is apropos of this thread…enjoy!
http://tinyurl.com/y5ccas
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:31 amHey, j. How’s it going?
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:35 ami am in search of new life and new civilizations, boldly searching out trolls and barbarians at tpm and at kos the past few days… wrote a zawahari diary today and came home to find the thing infested with redstate throwaways and the same sort of trash that as you say karl prys off the floor under the refrigerator…
besides that, not much… half considered getting a sirrius thingey at best buy because they have 100 dollars off one model…
and you?
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:42 amI just watched it, james. Thanks.
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:46 amReally good.
Im off, guys. Thanks again. :)
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:49 amTake care.
$100 off a sirrius thingey must be quite the deal, j. Whatever a sirrius thingey is, of course. :)
I have spent a blissful day at home. Enjoying the snow falling outside my window, enjoying my sons being home, and living in complete denial about any preparations necessary for the family get-together on christmas day.
It’s been a pretty great day!
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:51 amgreat!
sirius satelite radio… they have a left wing channel and malloy is on it.
i listen on the computer, but, you can store the shows and listen to them out in the real world where there seems to be people and coffee and stuff.
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:54 amI’m outta here, too. I turn into a pumpkin in 2 minutes. If I don’t see you guys, have a great holiday!
Goodnight!
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:58 ami also spent a couple of hours at a new barnes & noble that opened. it has to be five times larger than the one that used to be there… heaven! i think i only saw one copy of ann coulter book…they had a hamas book i have been looking for, so all is good!
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:58 am…you can store the shows and listen to them out in the real world where there seems to be people and coffee and stuff.
Comment by norm go to hell norm
Really? Coffee and stuff? I must investigate this thing….the “world,” is it? Interesting…
Heh. Goodnight, j.
December 23rd, 2006 at 3:00 amsee you later…
oh, and MERRY CHRISTMAS if i can’t get through before then!
you have been a wonderful companion on this site and i wish you and your family a great holiday together!
peace.
December 23rd, 2006 at 3:03 amI see The fake Gen. Gunnison stopped by to leave some sludge posts on each TP thread. He was never an officer, nor a Marine, but he uses the phony screenname as a cover for mischief on here and hacks our screens for childish nonsense.
December 23rd, 2006 at 3:06 amgood evening, jay!
i have a link to a jon stewart up there… he won’t be back until the 8th…youtube will have to do for the withdrawal period…
December 23rd, 2006 at 3:17 amHi norm just checking threads to see what is happening. Going to be a slow weekend on TP it appears, and between now and New Year’s a kind of limbo period before the Congress returns to DC in January. Can be a time for contrived Bush shenanagans, so we have to be cautious!
December 23rd, 2006 at 3:25 amTime to go to bed > take care norm and I will be back on the threads later today to see what is happening.
December 23rd, 2006 at 3:39 amYou made your bed you can lie in the mess , you elected a lot of these morons , your problem
December 23rd, 2006 at 5:21 amReligion does more harm than good – poll
82% say faith causes tension in country where two thirds are not religious
More people in Britain think religion causes harm than believe it does good, according to a Guardian/ICM poll published today. It shows that an overwhelming majority see religion as a cause of division and tension – greatly outnumbering the smaller majority who also believe that it can be a force for good.
The poll also reveals that non-believers outnumber believers in Britain by almost two to one. It paints a picture of a sceptical nation with massive doubts about the effect religion has on society: 82% of those questioned say they see religion as a cause of division and tension between people. Only 16% disagree. The findings are at odds with attempts by some religious leaders to define the country as one made up of many faith communities.
Most people have no personal faith, the poll shows, with only 33% of those questioned describing themselves as “a religious person”. A clear majority, 63%, say that they are not religious – including more than half of those who describe themselves as Christian.
FROM THE UK YOUR ALLIES – and let me tell you its the 33% that are religous that have made the troubles in the world – not the non beleivers as in myself
December 23rd, 2006 at 5:30 amAbout the Democracy spreading…
http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20061223.html
December 23rd, 2006 at 8:54 amOh, and another comment: “gabachos” isn’t a derogative designation of “white people”, but of the french soldiers who invaded Spain in the XIX century. So John Gibson is saying that he is like a frenchman in any form?
December 23rd, 2006 at 9:05 amHas anyone ever compiled a book of quotes like this, an encyclopedic compendium of the stupidest things ever said by Republicans and other wingnuts since 2000? That’s something I’d certainly pay $26.95 for.
I really wish that Mo Do hadn’t gone for the cheap and easy pun for the title and at the end of this wouldbe fluff piece. But Trump’s observations about Bush (”the dumbest Presidnet in history”) and Iraq alone are worth posting this and save this from being another piece of Dowdian eye candy. Ah, if only Donald could say to the Decider, “You’re fired!
December 23rd, 2006 at 9:15 amll
December 23rd, 2006 at 10:19 amThe most outrageous comments of 2006.
All came from the minds of progressives
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:30 pmRep. Hayes. Take your message and shove it.
December 23rd, 2006 at 7:13 pmHow “schrewd” of you #156. Check your dictionary, dolt.
December 24th, 2006 at 1:31 amOk, I need glasses. Yet, tell me what the outrageous progressive quotes are.
December 24th, 2006 at 1:33 amI know this comment wasnt in the list but I propose this one:
Whenever I want to masturbate, I read the Bible.
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Comment by Juan C — December 22, 2006 @ 10:53 pm
Hilarious!
December 24th, 2006 at 10:38 amIf math can prove infinity [∞],then it must exist.
Comment by [B!] — December 23, 2006 @ 2:02 am
Math is a human devised theory. It does not actually exist.
If I have two separate clumps of clay, and I wad them together into one another, I am left with a single lump of clay. 1+1 = 1. Math can be manipulated. It is not infallable.
The universe is indifferent. The proof is cancer, child molestation, pain, jealousy and the fact that in 5.5 billion years the sun will wipe out most of the solar system and we will be nothing more than a speck of space dust in a vast cosmos. I don’t know why that upsets people so much that they have to believe in things that do not exist. I really don’t.
December 24th, 2006 at 10:47 amThe universe is certainly, really big, but if it can be measured, it is not infinite.
Comment by Juan C — December 23, 2006 @ 2:11 am
Have you ever read Stephen Hawking’s “A Brief History of Time”? If not – sside from all his god references so as to not chase away the religious folks, it is a terrific explanation for what the universe is and how parts ofit work. More like a machine than anything ancient cultures have defined.
Last year I had my students do a presentation on a constellation. They were to present scientific facts and the mythology of it. After they had all presented their constellations, I asked them which was more interesting – the science or the myths. The fact that 99% of them said the mythology was proof enough for me that people would rather hear the make-believe stories than know the reality.
December 24th, 2006 at 10:52 amunbelievable: My only question to Juan,and now to you is,(granted, I’m being simplistic); Once you reach the edge of Juan’s finite universe;What’s there? A brick wall? A fence?
December 24th, 2006 at 12:19 pmAnd how do we even begin to explain black holes?
I just don’t see how anyone can just declare the Universe finite, and not ask themselves a few simple questions.
unbelievable: My only question to Juan,and now to you is,(granted, I’m being simplistic); Once you reach the edge of Juan’s finite universe;What’s there? A brick wall? A fence?
We may not be able to know. It may just be one of those things that is so much bigger than we are that we cannot either quantify it or understand it. Much like the reverse. We used to believe atoms were the smallest objects that existed – and when I was in high school- it was still just a theory. Now its strings. And as a result we are incapable of joining quantum physics with the theory of relativity to join it into a fluid system.
Now – just because we do not know what it is does not mean that it must be something we already understand. You could drive yourself insane just trying to contemplate such an answer.
The reality is that it doesn’t matter whether it is or isn’t finite or infinite. That doesn’t prove the existence of gods or anything supernatural. I don’t think it proves anything at all except that it is simply is what it is without purpose or intention or conciousness. And, what actually matters is how we live our lives here and now – because that is what is knowable. And what else we can know is that actions work. That is we want to have rich and moral lives it begins by doing – by being that change which we wish to see. I may not know much about what the universe is expanding into (because it is expanding), but I do know that.
Live your life on purpose and there will be purpose. Why would the existence or lack of existence of a divine being matter? Because the way most religious people go on and on, it is simply fear of that greater power that forces them to be moral. What a terrible subsistence to feel driven by the consequences of Hell, reincarnation or the sort. No wonder so few of them understand morality much less live it.
And how do we even begin to explain black holes?
Stars that have collapsed upon themselves. Hawkin’s book that I mentioned does a really good job of explaining them.
My exception is that when we do not understand the science, we attach make-believe explanations. That is what gets us frequently into trouble as a species. Because then we do not act in accordance with the rest of nature or the universe. We’re too embroiled in trying to save souls we mostly likely do not possess.
I just don’t see how anyone can just declare the Universe finite, and not ask themselves a few simple questions.
Comment by [B!] — December 24, 2006 @ 12:19 pm
I didn’t say it was or wasn’t. I was just pointing out that you can’t simply declare it is because someone can solve a theory-based math problem.
December 24th, 2006 at 12:40 pmHave you ever read Stephen Hawking’s “A Brief History of Time�
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UnB, I started reading it a couple of years ago but abandoned it. I had to read other things by the time. Silly me, I should have read it.
What I was telling B! was mostly my perception of math and the concept of infinity regarding the size of the universe. So, of course I can be wrong.
The fact that 99% of them said the mythology was proof enough for me that people would rather hear the make-believe stories than know the reality.
Ha! I would have voted for mythology. In those times people lacked the tools to study the universe, so they came up with really interesting stories about what the heck was the universe. I think that mythology was the tool to study the universe. Now, the problem is that religious leaders take those beliefs to suit their needs.
I just don’t see how anyone can just declare the Universe finite, and not ask themselves a few simple questions.
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Fractals are mathematical geometries that have fractional dimension, among other curious characteristics. A line is unidimensional, a triangle in a paper is a bidimensional figure, a sphere is tridimensional, etc. Fractals do not exist in real life but they represent, with astonishing accuracy, some nature forms. For example, the coasts of some country can be represented by a fractal. This fractal have a measurable area, you can see it, but if you want to measure its length, you couldnt cause it is infinite.
I wanted to express that not because I cant explain it doesnt mean it is not that way. IMO, when you reach the limit of the universe, you will see the Big Bang. Besides, Einstein said -and later proved- that the gravity was the curving of space. How can a seemingly infinite space can curve if it is infinite? I dont know much about these issues, B!, but it fascinates me. I encourage you to do some research as I will do.
December 24th, 2006 at 12:55 pmunbelievable;
I wasn’t referring to what you said about the Universe,but Juan flippantly declaring it finite.
Other than that,I think you give an excellent,educated and open minded explaination.
Happy Holidays.
December 24th, 2006 at 12:59 pmThank you Juan:
Know that I posted #166 before I saw your #165.
December 24th, 2006 at 1:03 pmBlessings to all
December 24th, 2006 at 3:11 pmFinite or infinite, it is equally incomprehensible. If it is finite that means that nothing is beyond it. Impossible. If it is infinite it goes on forever. Impossible.
December 25th, 2006 at 10:56 pmUnB, I started reading it a couple of years ago but abandoned it. I had to read other things by the time. Silly me, I should have read it.
Not too late to read it still… ; )
What I was telling B! was mostly my perception of math and the concept of infinity regarding the size of the universe. So, of course I can be wrong.
Either of you could be right… Or wrong. We don’t know yet. We might not ever know.
Ha! I would have voted for mythology. In those times people lacked the tools to study the universe, so they came up with really interesting stories about what the heck was the universe.
I agree, I’d much rather be read a story than a math book filled with equations. But I’m certainly not going to base my life upon it :)
We agree on religion. It can claim some good done it’s name (usually by individuals’ actions) – but mostly it’s been a divisive tool for oppressing people and controlling them.
My uncle was telling my mother that he went to church yesterday, and that it was deserted. I’ve been astonished here in the US how by Atheists and Agnostics and Deists being vocal about the negatives or organized religion, more and more people are feeling comfortable to question the system of faith they were born into. Including my mother and her older brother – people from the WWII generation who never question anything from authority figures…. It makes me hopeful.
IMO, when you reach the limit of the universe, you will see the Big Bang.
I think the disparity here is in the definition of the universe. You’re talking about the physical limits of physical matter. In that case, from what I’ve studied – you are right – we have seen the edge of matter. But I think what B! was saying is that the universe isn’t limited to that edge. That is possible. I mean, it has been allowed to physically expand over time without limit…
Besides, Einstein said -and later proved- that the gravity was the curving of space. How can a seemingly infinite space can curve if it is infinite?
Great point. I think this might depend onhow big the “container” is – if there is one.
In fact, the curving of time suggests to me that the universe is capable of being infinite if it can curve upon (or very closely to) itself – but that in reality, it is finite (limited by its own matter) because it cannot fill the infinite void (or whatever ir is).
I dont know much about these issues, B!, but it fascinates me. I encourage you to do some research as I will do.
Comment by Juan C — December 24, 2006 @ 12:55 pm
I’d loveto hear what you find. I’m destined to go mad from over thinking something… might as well be something interesting :)
December 26th, 2006 at 9:07 amI wasn’t referring to what you said about the Universe,but Juan flippantly declaring it finite.
I’ve always considered Juan concise :)
Thanks for the clarification of what you meant.
Other than that,I think you give an excellent,educated and open minded explaination.
Thanks… Not all of my former Science students would agree : )
Science is incredible. Without it we might still be picking off one another’s lice and flinging our own feces :)
Happy Holidays.
Comment by [B!] — December 24, 2006 @ 12:59 pm
You too!
December 26th, 2006 at 9:10 amEh, unB, like I said before, finite or infinite, it is just as unbelievable. Of course believing in some creator is even more so.
December 26th, 2006 at 11:04 pm