NBC: Saddam’s Execution Could ‘Fuel The Civil War’
NBC: Saddam’s Execution Could ‘Fuel The Civil War’
Today on Fox News Sunday, Bill Kristol said that Saddam Huissein’s execution “could be a milestone on the way towards a more decent and democratic regime in Iraq.”
On NBC, reporter Richard Engle, who is actually in Iraq, provided a reality check. Engle noted that supporters of Hussein “are not the overwhelming majority of people in this country carrying out attacks against american soldiers or against iraqis themselves.” Moreover, because the execution was “tinged by…sectarian overtones” it could “fuel” the “civil war.” Watch it:
Transcript:
RUSSERT: There have been 75 deaths in the Baghdad area since the death of Saddam Hussein. What impact do you believe his execution will have short term, long term on the security situation in Iraq?
ENGLE: Frankly, tim, I don’t think that it will have a tremendous impact. The Baath Party supporters, the people behind Saddam Hussein are not the overwhelming majority of people in this country carrying out attacks against American soldiers or against Iraqis themselves. Now it is mostly still Sunnis, but more Sunnis with a fundamentalist, more people motivated by al Qaeda than to bring back Saddam Hussein. What could happen is the more sectarian concerns. The fact that this video and the execution itself were tinged by such sectarian overtones, that could fuel the much more greater problem in this country which is the civil war.
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Yes if the Sunni Iraqis see the cellphone video of Saddam’s lynching, then not only might the sectarian violence escalate in Iraq, but could trigger a regional unrest among Muslims as well.
December 31st, 2006 at 11:02 amI don’t see how, all those Sunni’s aren’t the least bit pissed about being taken out of power, then their leader executed with a Hasbro noose, with the execution sponsored by McDonald’s.
December 31st, 2006 at 11:03 am10 percent or less of the Muslim world is Shea and they are happy; 90 percent or more of the Muslim World is Sunni and they are not happy. Bush has put America and the world in more danger.
December 31st, 2006 at 11:04 amYou mean all those Sunni’s might be upset about being taken out of power, and then their leader executed with a Hasbro rope, in an execution sponsored by McDonald’s?
December 31st, 2006 at 11:08 amBill Kristol… Whenever I hear his smug name, I now think of Jon Stewart cleaning the floor with him, and laugh…
December 31st, 2006 at 11:13 amBush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle, Coulter, Limpdick, and other administration officials and their cheerleaders should follow Saddam to the gallows. They are WAR CRIMINALS by every definition.
December 31st, 2006 at 11:17 amShea = Shia in the above post.
December 31st, 2006 at 11:19 amMy post in #6 should have included but was deleted(?), about the posthumous revelations of Gerry Ford in that his not criticizing the Bush administration is yet another example by Gerry, like the Nixon pardon, put party loyalty above all, even above his duty to the country.
December 31st, 2006 at 11:25 amI would love to inflict GBH on Mr. Kristol! He and his whole crew of neocon henchmen will burn in hell!
December 31st, 2006 at 11:25 amI just saw joe lieberdouche on CNN. Is it possible that this little jerk is just as evil as bush?
December 31st, 2006 at 11:27 amShould it be joe LeiberDouche or UberDouche?
December 31st, 2006 at 11:31 amwe still need to get out of the way and let the shia kick insurgent ass.
Comment by Fatthighs — December 31, 2006 @ 11:18 am
The Shia in Iraq are increasingly aligning themselves with Iran.
December 31st, 2006 at 11:32 amYeah, Bill Kristol, isn’t that guy right all the time?
December 31st, 2006 at 11:33 amGood luck with your statistics, but however you spell it, Nat, this entire region (india east wards) is Shia dense.
Shia are also finding they are well numbered in Lebanon and Syria as the heretofore Sunni leadership have found out as well.
In addition, Wahhabi high-handedness to not just Shia, but Kurds, Zikris, Ahmedis and others, ruthlessly even denying the Islamic label to their brothers and even now mocking them as Polythesists has only served to make Shia et al even more sure they need to craft a future of their own making.
As a Polythesist myself, I am pretty sure none of the Islamic groups vociferously denounced by moronic Wahhabs are of my ilk.
You can just see the hysteria of their position and their loser strategy by alienating the emerging strength of their faith.
Think about it.
The honkers around me are already losing their pants and hysterical about this outcome.
They dont need to go honk at Me, I am already promoting reconciliation between their hysterical wahhabs and the astonished Shia, who are being classed with hindus, buddhists and others, prolly wiccans and rastafarians.
Who they need to go honk at are their own.
hotshot saud cleric calls shia polythesists or barbie doll worshippers
http://www.alertnet.org/ thenews/ newsdesk/ L29791215.htm
ok, not barbie dolls but polythesists
irani cleric thinks the west made this all up ourselves, oh really, kashani poo, think again
http://www.irna.ir/ en/ news/ view/ menu-234/ 0612298743151307.htm
As I tell them everyday GOOD LUCK bozoz.
bye bye.
PS; sunnis, start reconciling, uh, like fast.
December 31st, 2006 at 11:33 amZooey, Thanx for the Birthday greeting!
December 31st, 2006 at 11:35 ameven as a liberal and leftie and unsure as the event was ahead of time, in the end, it gave the shia a closure and it gave the region a signal that american will to dispense with dangerous despots is robust and unwavering.
Comment by Fatthighs — December 31, 2006 @ 11:18 am
90 percent of Muslim world is Sunni and his execution is viewed by them as America’s doing and not by the people of Iraq. Bush has put not only the Iraqis in more danger but also Americans.
December 31st, 2006 at 11:39 amPoll Yahoo news
One in four, 25 percent, anticipates the second coming of Jesus Christ in 2007
This cant be so surely 25% of a nation cannot be so selfish,ignorant and so so stoopid
82% of Brits are Not religious
and of the 18% that are relgious probably only 1 person thinks christ is coming back in 2007 and thats a vegatabeable lying in a hospital bed waiting to meet him soon
December 31st, 2006 at 11:39 amHes trying to get you used to that thought its the Sunnis …. when in actual fact its the Shia,Kurds and Sunnis waisting your troops
Thats the whole plan what he just said is verbal diarrhea
December 31st, 2006 at 11:42 am#20 I hope Christ does come back in 2007, so I can punch him in the neck and tell him to stop empowering retards like gwb and crew.
December 31st, 2006 at 11:43 amGood luck with your statistics, but however you spell it, Nat, this entire region (india east wards) is Shia dense.
Comment by Fatthighs — December 31, 2006 @ 11:33 am
It doesn’t matter what the Shia population in Iraq is. Their overall numbers in the Muslim world is between 7.5 and 10 percent. The president has put America and the world in more danger.
December 31st, 2006 at 11:43 amIn addition, Wahhabi high-handedness to not just Shia, but Kurds, Zikris, Ahmedis and others, ruthlessly even denying the Islamic label to their brothers and even now mocking them as Polythesists has only served to make Shia et al even more sure they need to craft a future of their own making.
Comment by Fatthighs — December 31, 2006 @ 11:33 am
The Kurds are essentailly Sunni.
December 31st, 2006 at 11:47 amFatthighs, I have no idea what you’re talking about in the second half of your post (#17).
December 31st, 2006 at 11:50 amOne in four, 25 percent, anticipates the second coming of Jesus Christ in 2007
In America, one in four also believes:
The sun revolves around the Earth
Dinosaur bones are a hoax
The planet is 6,000 years old
George Bush is doing a great job.
Now, I’d hazard a guess that these are the same one out of four for the most part and use it to demonstrate what is wrong with our public educations system…
This cant be so surely 25% of a nation cannot be so selfish,ignorant and so so stoopid
25% of 300 million is 75 million people. Scary, huh? Try living with them…
82% of Brits are Not religious
Europe as a whole is far less religious than the US. And look at how many Americans are moving there…
and of the 18% that are relgious probably only 1 person thinks christ is coming back in 2007 and thats a vegatabeable lying in a hospital bed waiting to meet him soon
Comment by Corpus Mentis Teuchter — December 31, 2006 @ 11:39 am
Reality is a problem in the US… Obviously.
December 31st, 2006 at 11:58 amSuddenly, witnesses recalled, the room erupted in Shiite religious chants as the Shiite Muslims in the audience seized the moment they had long sought. One man yelled, “Moqtada, Moqtada, Moqtada,” unveiling his loyalty to radical anti-American cleric Moqtada al-Sadr.
“Long live Muhammad Bakr Sadr,” yelled another voice. Bakr Sadr was the uncle of Moqtada al-Sadr and founder of the Dawa party, of which Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki is a senior leader.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2006/ 12/ 30/ AR2006123000392.html
December 31st, 2006 at 12:00 pmOn history channel a few years back I saw what Saddam did when he came into power. He called all his fellow party members into a big room and sat in a chair in front of them. He smoked a cigar and wiped away fake tears as someone standing next to him read off a list of names. One by one each of the named people were dragged outside and shot. These were the people in Saddams own party that he felt were not loyal enough to him.
America should remind the Sunnis that Saddam wasnt their best friend.
Too bad there appears to be no one to replace Saddam, but a bunch of religious nuts. Isnt there any non-religious extremists left in Iraq that can take his place?.. that isnt a brutal dictator type… It seems we have just gone from a middle east with one country that was not ruled by religious bigots to a middle east with zero countries that are lead by non religious bigots.
December 31st, 2006 at 12:08 pm2999. YES GET READY FOR THE BIG 3000 TIME TO CELEBRATE NEW YEAR
December 31st, 2006 at 12:16 pmTruelly sick of your rotten to the core nation may you all rot in hell next year …….
December 31st, 2006 at 12:18 pmWASHINGTON (AP) — A California Democrat newly elected to Congress promised Saturday that his party will restore integrity and civility to the House when it assumes control in January.
“In this election, the American people clearly called for change,” Rep.-elect Jerry McNerney said in the Democrats’ weekly radio address. “As our first responsibility in fulfilling the mandate of this critical election, House Democrats will restore integrity and civility in Washington in order to earn the public trust.”
Now discuss…
December 31st, 2006 at 12:25 pmNot all history repeats itself, thankfully, but when you have the gang that couldn’t shoot straight in charge of the country, I fear something similar to the Tet Offensive will grip Iraq and a tragic number of American lives will be lost in 2007.
Bush is utterly clueless; his yes men are clueless; no branch of the military is being run like a first rate operation; regardless of the billions spent, the pentagon is still fighting a war on the cheap. What the hell, we’re not even fighting a war are we? Unrest is not an enemy. This is such a utter mess.
Baby George may swell with pride for killing the bad man that daddy couldn’t kill, but daddy had the brains to realize that going after the bad man would lead to chaos.
December 31st, 2006 at 12:27 pmCorpus Mentis Teucher, were you known as Tobey Tall previously?
December 31st, 2006 at 12:28 pm“As our first responsibility in fulfilling the mandate of this critical election, House Democrats will restore integrity and civility in Washington in order to earn the public trust.â€
Now discuss…
Comment by ForTruth
I hope he has a plan. And I hope he’s successful. I know my Rep-elect won’t be helping him.
December 31st, 2006 at 12:31 pmkristol: “… a more decent and democratic regime in Iraq.â€
the death penalty is contrary to a decent democracy…
and who is he to judge what is “decent” - another contradiction…
December 31st, 2006 at 12:32 pmI hope he has a plan. And I hope he’s successful. I know my Rep-elect won’t be helping him.
Comment by Zooey
You mean that nice-smelling Sali guy?
December 31st, 2006 at 12:37 pmyou mean stoke the existing civil war, right?
December 31st, 2006 at 12:39 pm#32..I believe that Democrats will restore integrity and civility in Washington. Exit polls from the last election showed that American’s #1 concern was Republican corruption. Civility and integrity, just like manners and class, is sometimes simply staying above it all.
When Republicans were name-calling and smearing Democratic candidates, Democrats repeatedly refused to come down to their level and they were criticized for it. But that is what civility is all about and now that Americans are finally seeing it, it’s finally paying off.
December 31st, 2006 at 12:40 pmYou mean that nice-smelling Sali guy?
Comment by ForTruth
That’s the guy.
Sali’s legacy for his very short and painful stint as Rep for ID-01 will be that he was utterly stupid, a social pariah, unintentially contributed many hilarious U-Tube clips, and smelled fabulous.
I’m sorry, America…
December 31st, 2006 at 12:42 pmCorpus Mentis Teucher, were you known as Tobey Tall previously?
Comment by Zooey — December 31, 2006 @ 12:28 pm
that was my first guess, except without the extreme vitriol… until this:
Truelly sick of your rotten to the core nation may you all rot in hell next year …….
a dead giveaway…
some never learn…
December 31st, 2006 at 12:42 pmZooey your Rep Sali R(ID) sounds like a real side-splitter, a barrel of monkeys, a hoot.
December 31st, 2006 at 12:47 pmsome never learn…
Comment by katy
That was a pretty telling mood swing…
December 31st, 2006 at 12:50 pmZooey your Rep Sali R(ID) sounds like a real side-splitter, a barrel of monkeys, a hoot.
Comment by ForTruth
I’m sure he’ll make the Daily Show, and not in a good way. But he’ll smell nice….
December 31st, 2006 at 12:51 pmkristol: “… a more decent and democratic regime in Iraq.â€
This is exactly the way the West look over other countries in the world. This is simple racism. The same way white british said when they saw australian natives wearing nothing but animal clothes and paints all over their body. The same way white brits felt about Maoris in New Zeland. The same way, Dutch, germans and french felt about africans: Oh, they are so poor and ignorant, we have to provide them with our values.
Of course, they dont believe that crap, in all those examples I gave, white men only wanted the resources of the land, but it is a good propaganda the spreading of white values…
Whoever supported the war on Iraq in order to deliver them democracy is as racist as the cops that beat Rodney King.
December 31st, 2006 at 12:53 pmEdwards…He just lost any hope of a vote from me.
What the fu*k is wrong with Democrats? They are a bunch bunch of pussies.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — December 31, 2006 @ 12:42 pm
please don’t give up so soon…
December 31st, 2006 at 12:59 pmread the link i posted on the BIG OIL thread…
it’ll happen… it’s up to US…
Robert Fisk and others have commented on how conveneient Saddams death is for Bush et. al.,. If SH had been left alive to tell the truth about the Bushies, or even to expose tghe tip of the iceberg, it would have meant the end of the GOP.
December 31st, 2006 at 1:01 pmAnd what would a more decent and democratic regime look like? I seem to recall Bush saying the world would be a better place if all countries adopt his Military Commissions Act.
December 31st, 2006 at 1:09 pmWhat the fu*k is wrong with Democrats? They are a bunch bunch of pussies.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
They are politicians. They dont care about people as long as they are not on election times. I have lost my faith a long time ago about the ruling class caring for the working class.
December 31st, 2006 at 1:13 pmCaption:
Thank you,Richard Engel,for stateing the obvious.
December 31st, 2006 at 1:18 pmWhat the fu*k is wrong with Democrats? They are a bunch of pussies.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — December 31, 2006 @ 12:42 pm
What the fu*k is wrong with you that you cannot see, in spite of all the evidence before you, that the Democrats are nothing but Republicans in sheep’s clothing?
You call them pussies because you are too focused on their clothing but be assured that they will screw you as much as the Republicans ever did once they are in power. If we are ever to get out of this hole we have dug for ourselves, we will all have to look beyond the two corporate parties.
American billionaires do not spend billions for the privilege of serving fellow Americans in exchange for peanuts for salary. They are Americans for fu*k’s sake!
December 31st, 2006 at 1:19 pmBe nice Abby.
December 31st, 2006 at 1:24 pmHeh. I liked you Abby.
December 31st, 2006 at 1:27 pmNew Year’s Eve and have you seen the video of Saddam’s Lynching?
Early this morning, about 1:30 AM, while surfing Internet Blog sites, I viewed a uncensored cellphone video of Saddam being Lunched, by black-hooded goons, who taunted him and before he finished his spoken prayer hanged him with a oversize diameter rope, which snapped his neck sideways and apparently he was still alive for a half minute, so the hanging was botched and he was mistreated too.
If you want to view it then go to “No Quarter” blog site and watch the “Saddam Execution Video” > Pres. Bush allowed Saddam to be lynched!
December 31st, 2006 at 1:28 pmLynched not Lunched, but he might as well have been eaten by the Shia goons who hanged him > typo mistake.
December 31st, 2006 at 1:31 pmBe nice Abby.
Comment by [B!] — December 31, 2006 @ 1:24 pm
You are right of course.
Sorry Spudge_Boy, for lashing out at you in my frustration at what is essentially my own impotence. Not the right note at the eve of a New Year where things can only get better.
BTW, I still like you, Juan C.
Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year to All.
December 31st, 2006 at 1:39 pmHappy New Year,Abby.
We know your frustration.
December 31st, 2006 at 1:53 pmjust heard on AAR news - many web searches for the saddam hanging are leading to porn sites… aaaaack! :-}
December 31st, 2006 at 2:02 pmimagine that…
So, Abby, I assume by your rant that you still believe there were no differences between George Bush and Al Gore. How’s that “won’t vote for the lesser of two evils” working out for you?
December 31st, 2006 at 2:04 pmThe way to take corporations out of the electoral process is public financing of elections, period. A large majority of Democrats favor this and one or two republicans. For the first 100 years of our country’s existance it was a crime for any corporation to give any money to a political campaign.
December 31st, 2006 at 2:07 pmHow’s that “won’t vote for the lesser of two evils†working out for you?
Comment by Bluedog49
I guess Abby has a point. Democracy does not mean only an exercise every two or four years. Democracy means that people participates actively in the government. I shouldnt be telling this to you because US must be one of the countries were people is more aware of their rights and their involvement in the system. But when you elected democrats, was that really the people´s government? Its a good point, I guess.
December 31st, 2006 at 2:09 pm“Every single one of them has come out and publicly stated that they will not seek impeachment, even though they received a mandate from the American voters.”
Yes, and that is as it should be. You don’t say I want to impeach the guy and then look for a good reason to do it (unless you’re a republican.) You let the system work — investigate possible constitutional crimes, make your findings public with congressional hearings and then impeach if you’ve got the evidence. Come on, people. They haven’t even been sworn in.
December 31st, 2006 at 2:12 pmBill Kristol is one of the dummest pundits on television. Did Bill Kristol hear the shouting of the guards before killing Saddam?!..they were shouting’Muqtada, Muqtada’…refering to their Shiate spiritual leader Muqtada Al-Sader. This was seen by all the Moslem world live on television in the early morning of one of the Moslems holliest days which bans punishing by death to any human being during those days. Bill Kristol can’t understand that Iraq is run by Shiate militias…they were jubilant..because Saddam was killed first, and secondly..he is a Sunni. This act will not be a milstone toward democracy as Bill Kristol put it,instead it will be more of a kerosene poured on already burning Iraq. Even Saudis who never liked Saddam and fought a war against him..questioned killing him the early morning of the first day of the religious holidays. All Moslems felt that way ; they felt it meant to insult Molslems and nothing else….right or wrong…the act will not be what Kristol described as milestone toward democracy. Coming days and months will prove another one of the NeoCons miscalculations just like they were wrong about the war in Iraq as a whole from start.
December 31st, 2006 at 2:16 pmJuan, actually the founders had a real problem with the idea of multiple parties. This isn’t a parlamentary system, here. The fouders were concerned with multiple factions gaming the system in a way in which we would find a small minority wielding too much power. They felt a 2-party system would guarantee that leaders would always be supported by the largest numbers possible. The Democratic party gave us the strongest middle class in our country’s history. It reached it’s height in the 60’s and 70’s. Modern libertarian conservatism in the repub party has been cutting that middle class down now for 26 years. I say don’t blame the Dems for this — try to strengthen the Democratic party by moving it back to the left. That’s how to affect change the fastest in the system as it exists today.
December 31st, 2006 at 2:16 pmIn 2000, Ralph Nader sold a bunch of mostly young first-time voters the idea that there were no legitimate differences between Al Gore and George Bush. The argument seems almost comical today. 1 out of 10 Green Party voters in either Florida or New Hampshire could have changed history. There’s enough blood to mess up a lot of hands in our country, but until Green party people acknowledge the blood that’s on their hands, I have no respect at all for the Green party.
December 31st, 2006 at 2:27 pmSpudge, there will be investigations. Henry Waxman was holding peoples’ feet to the fire before ‘94 and he’ll be doing it again. Boxer’s going to run the environmental committee in the Senate. John Dingle’s got a list of things he wants to look into. I say again. Give them a month befofe you pronounce them a failure. I’m just surprised that I even have to point this out.
December 31st, 2006 at 2:30 pmYou know, people, payback’s a bitch. Don’t let the fact that Dems are not screaming and braying that they’re going to get them fool you. Dems have been taking a load of crap for 12 years now and, in some cases, there will be hell to pay. That’s my prediction. You all need to keep in mind that Dems also fight the corporate media and know that anything they say can and probably will be presented in the worst possible way. Please take that into account. But, there will be investigations.
December 31st, 2006 at 2:34 pm“Truelly sick of your rotten to the core nation may you all rot in hell next year …….” Comment by Corpus Mentis Teuchter
*******Dear Humanist/ToBe Tall/CmT - - Such a putz!! You come here and insult those most in lockstep with YOUR political and social ideals. These people despise those who disagree with them every bit as much as you do. Idiot! The good news - many of the Progs here don’t believe in hell and they aren’t too fond of you either.
December 31st, 2006 at 2:35 pm(BTW - I’m betting on ToBe Tall - Humanist had the annoying habit of coyness. ToBe was simply obnoxiously coarse.)
George Washington warned against creating any political party in his Farewell Address:
The wisdom of his words has been born out in the past 6 years.
December 31st, 2006 at 2:40 pmComment by mighty aphrodite — December 31, 2006 @ 2:35 pm
You’re one to talk! Posting a “humorous” anecdote about your dead daughter. How old was she when she died? Heaven forbid any of your children grow up to become Democrats…
and your endless lies about being an attorney.
Take a good long look in any mirrors lately?
December 31st, 2006 at 2:47 pmpatrica > go to “No Quarter” blog site > I just saw the video on there again about an hour ago. Site is getting heavy traffic so be patient.
December 31st, 2006 at 3:10 pmRe: #77 -
Dear BRaid Fairy - Thank you for demonstrating why some of us are having a difficult time believing you passed the bar on the first go round. Your inability to discuss my post, which you quote, is telling. It is a tad like questions specifically re: actus reus - and you discuss mens rea exclusively, so as to convince us you know something….anything. Well the good news, every litigator needs researchers….
Happy New Year!
December 31st, 2006 at 3:29 pmMA please go to Iraq today > Bush needs more troops to hold onto oil!
December 31st, 2006 at 3:37 pmBill Crystal needs to walk amongst the Iraqi people without our military protection. After that, and only after that, can he comment on the situation in Iraq with credibility.
December 31st, 2006 at 4:26 pmIF SADAMM WAS HUNG FOR KILLING 150 IRAQIS, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO BUSH FOR KILLING 600,000?
December 31st, 2006 at 7:10 pm#79 - Hagette knows how to use “the Google!”
actus reus
mens rea
Comment by mighty aphrodite
That was pretty rich — Hagette calling anyone else a putz.
December 31st, 2006 at 7:52 pmZooette - Nice of you to help the Rune thrower lawyer wannabe. As I’m sure you noticed his/her inability to discuss my assertion, it was very sweet of you to come to his/her rescue…..again. I can just hear exasperated judges ruling on the irrelevance of her myriad arguments….
December 31st, 2006 at 8:07 pmPoor dear Hagette,
No one here is concerned with any assertion you may float into the ether. You’re so funny.
I’m sure you enjoy hearing many a ruling by exasperated judges from your perch at the back of the courtroom — while waiting for the unwashed masses to leave so you can scrape the gum from the bottom of the benches.
Noodles….
December 31st, 2006 at 9:09 pm#89 MA got all of her lawyerly training by watching Legally Blonde (1 AND 2)
December 31st, 2006 at 10:52 pmIt is too bad it didn’t read the books though…it might realize many words are spelled in the US without a u…such as labor (and others, just read its posts).
December 31st, 2006 at 11:02 pmComment by mighty aphrodite — December 31, 2006 @ 8:07 pm
Assertion? You made an assertion worthy of discussion? I’m sorry, I thought I had slipped upon some vomit which chanced to land upon thy keyboard and pretended to be cognizant thought. Would that it were vomit, for that at least could be cleaned. Nay, it had a peculiar smell….reminiscient of rotten fish, or a yeast infection. If cleanliness is next to Godliness, then thou art as far removed from the Almighty as the flushings of cholera mixed with the decaying flesh of the unembalmed corpse.
Return, if thou must. But return with something worthy of logical discourse. For if thou doesn’t, I just might find a curse worthy of one such as you.
January 1st, 2007 at 12:16 amFaire it is the New Year and MA turns into a Pillar of Salt like in the Bible > lol.
January 1st, 2007 at 12:31 amBriseadh na Faire,
Excellent imagery.
I recognized The Hagette immediately. :)
January 1st, 2007 at 12:35 amComment by Jay Randal — January 1, 2007 @ 12:31 am
OMG!!! Do you realize what that means!!! New Years Eve!!! Drunken revelry!!! MA’s remaining two daughters get her husband drunk and begat children from his seed!!! aaackkk!!!!
January 1st, 2007 at 12:44 amUh oh, things are getting a little risque for this delicate flower. :)
January 1st, 2007 at 1:04 amThe Saddam Snuff film will go down as another strategic blunder in this continuing war of tragic errors. You can let the guy rot in obscurity in jail. But NO!!! You give him ultimate ending where dies a HERO. He faces death better than anybody could. The pathetic taunts of his hangers prove to all everybody that there is no chance at reconciliation of Shiaa and Sunni in the future Iraq. I guess Maliki and the new Iraqi elites believe they need to show the Sunni’s that they have no place in the new Iraq. My belief is that this will give an increased moral authority to those fighting in the resistance.
January 1st, 2007 at 3:36 amWhen I saw the Snuff Film I could not believe it was real. How could they possibly be so tone deaf?
If this isn’t a civil war, like the Bushie’s say, then it should be safe for the Bush Twins to go over, all of the Bush family’s children, and every member of Congress’s offspring should go-if it is safe and to quote from the great one’s lips “we’re making progress over there.”
January 1st, 2007 at 9:02 amWhat is it with crazy conspiracy theories on here? Seems like people are willing to believe anything.
Why is it that GWB’s daughters must go to Iraq? Last time I checked this was an all volunteer force. If someone doesn’t feel they are ready to commit to the military, they don’t sign up.
No one is saying its safe for American civilians to travel in Iraq. It is a pretty big leap to say Iraq is absolutely safe when a member of the administration says the civil war is nothing more than a creation of the American media. I thought liberals were the ones that understood nuance. Apparently not.
January 1st, 2007 at 10:42 amJoeShmo; Bush is telling people that they should talk their kids into enlisting to fight in Iraq. Bush says it is their patriotic duty. He should set an example by getting the twins into fighting daddy’s war. It is called responsible leadership. If he does not, he then has NO business telling parents their kids ought to be sacrificed for his delusions of grandeur.
January 1st, 2007 at 12:46 pmI disagree.
I predict a 52% increase in rainbows, puppies and fresh little candies.
January 1st, 2007 at 1:14 pm#28 Too bad there appears to be no one to replace Saddam, but a bunch of religious nuts. Isnt there any non-religious extremists left in Iraq that can take his place that isnt a brutal dictator type?
One word: NO. Stupid people, like pretty much everyone who supported this war, don’t understand this simple idea. The current sociological climate of the mideast makes religious nuts and religious parties one of the most powerful, and also most unreasonable forces in this region. At this point in history, its a choice between brutal secular dictators and the brutal religious fanatics they repress.
I thought Saddam was an ok guy. If any of you think that the people who have replaced him are any less brutal your kidding yourself. Saddam had a relatively “humane” execution and show trial simply because the AMericans didnt want it to turn into more of a public relations nightmare than its already is going to become. I can guarantee you, the stuff going on in IRaqi controlled prisons now isnt any more humane than they were under saddam’s rule. These Shia death squads and thier electric drills to the head arent any nicer than Saddam goons were. They are all just gangs wearing different colors. And us moronic americans just empowered the gang whose idealogy is far closer to Bin Laden’s than Saddam’s secular government ever was.
Beleive me, before this is over, we are going to be wishing we could just gas large amounts of Shia like saddam did. Just to give you in an idea of the people we are dealing with.. Al Sistani, the bigwig Shia guy, for instance, recently issued a fatwah commanding that homosexuals be killed.
These days in IRaq women are regularly attacked and harassed for not wearing burquas, and BARBERS are being killed for offending Allah by shaving beards.
This is kind of stuff didnt happen when saddam was running the country. His Baath party actually made some pretty signifigant (in the middle east context) advances in education and women’s rights.
But then again, the neanderthal bimblehumper religious nuts that run THIS country are probably delighted that tens of thousands of american soliders have been maimed or killed and nearly a trillion american dollars spend so we could put violent homophobes and misogynists in power in another country.
Yes, these sort of the people are the allleged “good guys” in IRaq. Scaaary..
January 1st, 2007 at 6:33 pm“Today on Fox News Sunday, Bill Kristol said that Saddam Huissein’s execution “could be a milestone on the way towards a more decent and democratic regime in Iraq.â€
I see nothing “decent” or “democratic” in the way that Iraq has been commandeered by a regime that is just as brutal as the one it evicted.
January 1st, 2007 at 8:39 pm#92 I totally agree. These people are clueless. al-Sadr is no hero by any stretch of the imagination. He is one of the main antagonists in this little play and the main power behind Maliki. Even mainstream Sunnis will not stand for what happened on what is supposed to be a holiday of peace (I am not sure many Shia are comfortable with what happened). If Bush doesn’t want a “civil war” (as if there wasn’t already one) al-Sadr will shortly be swaying in the wind.
January 1st, 2007 at 8:48 pm