ThinkFast: January 3, 2007
ThinkFast: January 3, 2007
Iraq’s Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki dislikes being the country’s leader and wishes he could leave his job. “I wish I could be done with it even before the end of this term. I didn’t want to take this position,” he told the Wall Street Journal.
Iraq’s Shiite-led government said it has ordered an investigation into the “battery of taunts” and video taping of Saddam Hussein’s execution. One witness reported the individual who took a cell phone video of the event was Mowaffak al-Rubaie, Iraq’s national security adviser.
The Justice Department said in a letter it “was not in a position” to provide documents on the CIA’s detention and interrogation of terror suspects that were requested by Sen. Pat Leahy (D-VT), the incoming chairman of the Judiciary Committee.
The Pentagon is increasingly relying on “emergency” supplemental funding requests, using them “to acquire future weapons that normally would be funded through the regular Pentagon budget.” An army official involved in budget planning says “It’s a feeding frenzy.”
House Democrats have finalized ethics reforms that “ban all travel paid for by lobbyists or organizations that employ lobbyists, require the ethics committee to pre-approve travel paid for by outside groups, enact a total gift ban, …require lawmakers to pay the market cost of flying on a corporate jet,” and “prevent the new majority from holding votes open to change the outcome.”
Lawmakers in Massachusetts, “the only state where same-sex marriage is legal, took a first step toward banning it” yesterday, “when legislators voted to advance a constitutional amendment defining marriage as the union between a man and a woman.”
“Only six of 75 U.S. metropolitan areas won the highest grades for their emergency agencies’ ability to communicate during a disaster, five years after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks,” according to a new Dept. of Homeland Security report.
Six months ago, U.S. forces in Diyala province “hoped security would improve” with the death of Abu Musab Zarqawi. “Instead, security has collapsed” in the area and “attacks have more than doubled in the last year.” “Violence has devastated the provincial police force and brought reconstruction to a virtual standstill.”
Incoming House workforce chairman George Miller (D-CA) is set to “undo a controversial vestige of the Jack Abramoff era” by raising wages on the Mariana Islands, a U.S. territory where sex slavery and sweatshop factory conditions have been documented. Abramoff worked with conservatives to block better working conditions for years.
“The New Jersey Legislature will move to abolish the death penalty after a report released yesterday found that capital punishment is costly to taxpayers and serves no ‘legitimate… intent.’” “A 13-member commission, established last year to study the issue, recommended in its report that the death penalty be replaced with life in prison without parole.”
And finally: Pat Robertson makes his annual predictions. Evangelist Pat Robertson said yesterday that “God has told him that a terrorist attack on the United States would result in ‘mass killing’ late in 2007.” “I’m not necessarily saying it’s going to be nuclear,” Robertson said. “The Lord didn’t say nuclear.” In 2005, Robertson predicted Congress would approve Bush’s Social Security privatization plan. “I have a relatively good track record,” he said. “Sometimes I miss.”
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“The Lord didn’t say nuclear.†In 2005, Robertson predicted Congress would approve Bush’s Social Security privatization plan. “I have a relatively good track record,†he said. “Sometimes I miss.“
If his predictions come directly from god then wouldn’t he mean that god gets it wrong sometimes? This man is as bad as they get. Saying that he speaks with god to get the flock to fall at his feet and send him a chunk of their paychecks. A snakeoil salesman at the highest level.
January 3rd, 2007 at 9:13 amDid TP cover Patrick Leahy’s denial for detainee documents yesterday?
And, question:
January 3rd, 2007 at 9:13 amIs World Net Daily for real, or just a satirical site?
“Only six of 75 U.S. metropolitan areas won the highest grades for their emergency agencies’ ability to communicate during a disaster, five years after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks
Ah the legacy of the great Gulliani. Presidential caliber material for the Republicans.
January 3rd, 2007 at 9:14 am“I wish I could be done with it even before the end of this term. I didn’t want to take this position,â€
We’re going to send more troops to prop up THIS guy?!
January 3rd, 2007 at 9:14 amSorry. For number three I meant to add that NYC is not one of those six cities. Haven’t completly woken up yet.
January 3rd, 2007 at 9:18 amMahmoud Akmaydjinedshad recently threatened war (against the west).
He fulminated again.
Iran threatens “historical pulse.”
January 3rd, 2007 at 9:20 am(Irans) president wants to degredate (humiliate) the USA in nuclear twist
With the usual strong words Irans president Mahmoud Akmaydjinedjad renewdly defended the nuclear program of his country and reinforced he will buttonhole.
For the case that Iran is attacked he menaced to use a historical beat with what Iran will strike the west.
The sanctions with which Iran shall be forced to stop its nuke prog were only released (due) to pressure from the USA and Great Britain.
He prophesied to the Americans that Iran will “humiliate” the superpower. “My country did it before” and “we´ll do it again.” The UN sec council released a resolution on 23 dec 2006 that forbids export of goods and technology that may support the Iranian nuke- or missileprog.
Lawmakers in Massachusetts, “the only state where same-sex marriage is legal, took a first step toward banning it†yesterday, “when legislators voted to advance a constitutional amendment defining marriage as the union between a man and a woman.â€
Once again, I ask: “Why?”
What is it about same-sex marriage that is hurting these poor legislators? How does homosexual people hurt them? Why are they making it their business?
On a related note…this past Sunday in church, the preacher made reference to the fact that if he was in Canada and preached about sin, he could be jailed for a hate crime. It’s pretty obvious to me that he was speaking of homosexuality; supporters of same-sex marriage bans have used this type of situation to support their position. What I want to know is this: what gives a preacher the right to preach against same-sex marriage and call it a sin if neither of the homosexual partners don’t see it as a sin? What if they don’t believe in God?
January 3rd, 2007 at 9:24 amGosh, I guess either God isn’t telling Pat the truth or Pat is listening to the wrong God. . . . as for a prediction, how stupid. We have a prezident who continues to insult and challenge the world to attack us and this clown predicts that the USA will be attacked. Duh.
January 3rd, 2007 at 9:27 amComment by trueblue — January 3, 2007 @ 9:13 am
Let me add this from the article you linked to:
According to Assistant Atty General James Clinger:
“Al Qaeda seeks information on our interrogation techniques — their methods and their limits — and trains its operatives to resist them,” Clinger wrote. “We must avoid assisting their effort.”
Is he suggesting that Sen. Leahy will help the terrorists? Is he saying Sen. Leahy is a terrorist? Is this more of the “if the Democrats win Congress, the terrorists win” thinking?
January 3rd, 2007 at 9:30 amBush may be announcing his plan to escalate the illegal Iraq occupation within the next hour.
January 3rd, 2007 at 9:30 amAFP: Iran to soon launch production of industrial nuclear fuel
CNN: Iran vows to humiliate US
AFP: Israel minister urges UN to revoke Iranian UN membership
January 3rd, 2007 at 9:31 amIt don’t happen often, but y’all MISSED somethin’ on the Think Fast this mornin’….
We’s gonna get hit by TERROR in 2007!!!
You people better stop your sinnin’! Stop votin’ fer Demmycrats and Clutch them Bibles! Go out and beat up some Queers and Muslims for the LORD! ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRMAGEDDON’S A-Comin!
Pat Robertson SAYS So!
GOD TOLD HIM!!!
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/01/02/D8MDEM380.html
And Rev. Pat’s been RIGHT ON with his preedickshuns!
Preznit Bush DID beat John Kerry, after all!
And then there was THIS!
So if you gots vacation time — USE IT AFORE SEPTEMBRY! WE’S ALL GWINE DIE DEADER THAN DEAD!
Rev. Pat said GOD told him. And God wouldn’t josh about shit like that!!!
January 3rd, 2007 at 9:33 amWhoops! You guys is GOOD! THERE’S THE STORY I said you didn’t have!
*blush!*
January 3rd, 2007 at 9:34 amwhat gives a preacher the right to preach against same-sex marriage and call it a sin if neither of the homosexual partners don’t see it as a sin?
Not that I care one way or the other, but Leviticus and Corinthians and the Constitution give the preacher the right, regardless of what the partners may think.
What if they don’t believe in God?
Which is considered another sin. Besides, if they do not believe in God than they would not be in the Church to hear the message.
January 3rd, 2007 at 9:34 amComment by ccokz — January 3, 2007 @ 9:31 am
RE: CNN: Iran vows to humiliate US
And they certainly will with Bush in charge of things.
Remember that bin Laden said he wanted to financially destroy the U.S. Bush is taking us right down that path. If the Republicans have anything to do with it, it will take us 75 years to pay for the “war” on terror…that is, if we are no longer fighting it by that time.
January 3rd, 2007 at 9:37 amAn army official involved in budget planning says “It’s a feeding frenzy.â€
Isn’t it nice to see how some people appreciate the money we taxpayers give to them. It warms my cockles.
January 3rd, 2007 at 9:37 amReid and Pelosi need to take to the podium, in the next 30 minutes, and beat Bush to the punch. Reid and Pelosi need to announce:
“Citizens of the USA, the Iraq Occupation is OVER. The troops are coming home immediately, starting today. The new Democratic Congress has unanimously decided to discontinue funding for Bush’s war.”
Imagine how powerful it’d be if the Democrats asserted their authority and took the wind completely out of Bush’s sail. They’d earn the respect of EVERY thinking American.
January 3rd, 2007 at 9:39 amIs he suggesting that Sen. Leahy will help the terrorists? Is he saying Sen. Leahy is a terrorist? Is this more of the “if the Democrats win Congress, the terrorists win†thinking?
Comment by WC
Isn’t it just unreal, WC?
It’s actually why I asked if WorldNet Daily was for real;
January 3rd, 2007 at 9:41 amThere’s a story about a radio host who has threatened any Congressperson who votes for the Immigrant bill.
If it’s real, the guy’s name is Hal Turner
“We remain committed to continuing these discussions,” the Dec. 22 letter stated. “We must do so, however, in a manner that protects classified information and the confidentiality of legal advice and internal deliberations within the Executive Branch.”
I’m going to go out on a limb here and surmise that either Patrick Leahy, as chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee, has a security clearance of a level adequate for handling this kind of information or he is able to get one.
The Bush administration came into office in January, 2001, and immediately began shutting out members of Congress, even ranking members of Congress, from discussions that they deemed too sensitive. That would mean that the administration bestowed upon itself a sacred trust that it had not earned, while at the same time denying that trust to members of Congress who had long since proven themselves worthy of it.
I don’t know what options Leahy has, but I’d like to see him pull out all the stops and get Gonzalez in front of the committee for a marathon hearing. I would want to make sure the lights are nice and bright over Gonzalez’ seat and see if someone can’t lose his pitcher of water on its way to the hearing room.
January 3rd, 2007 at 9:46 amOther Pat Robertson predictions found on the web:
This from 2005. “The Lord had some very encouraging news for George Bush. What I heard [from God] was that Bush is now positioned to have victory after victory and that his second term is going to be one of triumph, which is pretty strong stuff.â€
In 1980, he predicted that the USSR would invade the Middle East. In 1981, he predicted a global economic collapse. He predicted that the USSR would invade Israel. In 2004, he predicted that George W. Bush would “easily†win the election in a “blowout.†In 1980, he predicted that the USSR would invade the Middle East. In 1981, he predicted a global economic collapse. He predicted that the USSR would invade Israel. In 2004, he predicted that George W. Bush would “easily†win the election in a “blowout.â€
I’m predicting more assinine predictions will come from Pat Robertson.
January 3rd, 2007 at 9:49 amWhat if they don’t believe in God?
Which is considered another sin. Besides, if they do not believe in God than they would not be in the Church to hear the message.
Comment by robert — January 3, 2007 @ 9:34 am
Not that I care one way or the other, but Leviticus and Corinthians and the Constitution give the preacher the right, regardless of what the partners may think.
So a preacher can force his views upon me even if I don’t believe something is a sin. Or are you saying he can do that only if I am in a church?
Which is considered another sin. Besides, if they do not believe in God than they would not be in the Church to hear the message.
Not believing in God is a sin? So every human being on this planet must believe in God…there is no other option…and as a Christian you are going to force that belief upon me? You sound like one of these religious nuts that used to knock on my door (MY personal property) and on MY front porch tell me that if I don’t accept Jesus Christ as my savior, I’m going to hell. Is that the type of message and actions you support?
Plus, I didn’t suggest that the sinner was in church hearing a message. I suggested that not all homosexuals, as it is with heterosexuals, believe in God.
January 3rd, 2007 at 9:52 amThe Dem’s response should be, “We’ll extend the SAME cooperation and pattern of governance that you and the repubs have shown us over the past six years.” What more could you ask for?
January 3rd, 2007 at 9:56 am20:27A man also or a woman that has a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones; their blood shall be on them.
Hey robert does this mean that I should stop playing D&D? I mean if the preachers have to preach hatred because it is in Leviticus what will they do abou this?
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:04 am20:9For everyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death: he has cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be on him.
WC,
The preacher can only “force” his message if you are willing to listen to it. If you don’t like the message, don’t go to the church. If you are a member of the church, then you subject yourself to the message of the church.
I am not saying that everyone has to believe in God. That is up to them. I won’t be knocking on anyones door. Personally, I don’t care if you worship God or Mickey Mouse.
Yes, according to the Christian faith, not believing in God is a sin and failing ot believe in God gets you sent to hell. That is kind of how the faith thing works.
You asked what gives the preacher the right, and I told you. The Bible and the Constitution. Even if you do not like what he says, he has a right to say it.
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:05 am20:9For everyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death: he has cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be on him.
Comment by dlet —
Well I’m screwed….
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:08 am:)
Don’t miss the next instalment of Ellison versus the GOP dorks.
Ellison is using, for his swearing in ceremony… a copy of the Koran once owned by Thomas Jefferson!!!!!
Too brilliant. Take a bow, Rep. Ellison.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/03/AR2007010300075.html
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:09 amSo, dlet and WC, you are saying that the preacher does not have the right to voice his message? Doesn’t that go against the whole Freedom of Speech?Freedom of Religion thing??
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:09 amIsn’t it just unreal, WC?
Comment by trueblue — January 3, 2007 @ 9:41 am
Indeed it is! The government still hasn’t gotten the message from the voters from this past election. They can spin it all they want to, but the bottom line is, the voters were not satisfied with the way the Republicans were running things and made a change. Sure, the Dems don’t have what I guess would be called a super majority, but still…
I think Bush thinks that since impeachment has pretty much been taken off the table (at least for now), he can continue doing pretty much what he wants to. Why should he think otherwise?
Cheney hid behind “national security” as his reason for not interviewing with the local police when he shot a man in the face, so nothing surprises me anymore.
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:20 amWould you want to be the leader of Iraq right now? I doubt it. Maliki has it right. If he survives, he can escape in a year or so.
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:23 amNever said he doesn’t have the right to preach as he wishes. Just pointing out how hypocritical the argument of singling out gays to attack because it si in Leviticus and choosing to ignore the host of other sins that require death by stoning. Anyway they can preach what they want. But when they try to push their personal religious beliefs onto the general public through laws that affect everyone including those that do not practice their faith that is wrong and should not be tolerated. That is the danger of putting religious dogma into public law….it forces others to follow your religious beliefs. Would you want a law that said you can’t eat pork?
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:24 amdlet, I agree. I would never advocat ANY theocratic law. This nation was founded not to be a theocracy. The only arguement I was making is that the oreacher has the right, even if you do not like it. I will keep my own morality to myself and deal with it with my God at my time. If someone does not beleieve the same as me, oh well. That is their right.
Would you want a law that said you can’t eat pork?
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:34 amHell no, I loves me some BBQ pig.
Anyone who thinks that God talks to him/her is completely insane! Mr. Robertson is a madman an no one should ever take him seriously about anything.
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:37 amJustice Department said in a letter it “was not in a position†to provide documents on the CIA’s detention and interrogation of terror suspects that were requested by Sen. Pat Leahy (D-VT)
Does anybody else hear Dick Cheney telling Pat to go huck fimself?
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:38 amRobertson said. “The Lord didn’t say nuclear.â€
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:40 amNo, he said nukular!
I would never advocat ANY theocratic law. This nation was founded not to be a theocracy.
Would you want a law that said you can’t eat pork?
Hell no, I loves me some BBQ pig.
Comment by robert
So then denying gay marriage by the state due to a religious belief even though they meet all the requirements that heterosexuals do when they want to marry each other which is I believe that they want to, is wrong. Glad we can agree on that.
Heck I would even defend Pat Robertson to say god speaks to him. He can say it as much as he likes….that little blasphemer.
Mmmmmm….bacon.
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:43 am20:9For everyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death: he has cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be on him.
Comment by dlet —
Wasn’t there a public incident where Jr. cussed out GWH??
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:44 amDid Pat Robertson predict that al-Maliki would be offered a position in Middle Eastern Politics at Oral Roberts?
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:45 amComment by robert — January 3, 2007 @ 10:09 am
1. Since you say that freedom of speech protects anyone from a hate crime, and thus they can speak against homosexuality and same-sex marriage in or out of the public eye, it would seem that one of the arguments against same-sex marriage has thus been destroyed. Thanks for pointing that out.
2. I suppose the preacher has the right to voice his message in his own church. And yes, I agree that if a homosexual person does not like the message or does not want to hear it, they can leave. No problem there…freedom of choice. The problem I have is outside of church, where not only preachers, but ordinary citizens, are forcing their views on homosexuals that it is a sin and they are going to hell for it. Every person who is against same-sex marriage always turn to the Bible. They are forcing their views by enacting laws forbidding same-sex marriage. The legislators in such states as MA are pushin an amendment banning same-sex marriage based on the LEGISLATORS’ VIEWS, which to me are likely (and I say “likely” because I am not 100% familiar with the pending action) based on their religious beliefs. Which means that they are forcing their religious beliefs on homosexual couples.
Robert said: Yes, according to the Christian faith, not believing in God is a sin and failing ot believe in God gets you sent to hell. That is kind of how the faith thing works.
Again I ask…what if the homosexual couples don’t belive in God? Does your statement, “not believing in God is a sin and failing to believe in God gets you sent to hell” go for everyone? What if they don’t believe their lifestyle is a sin? Let me be clear here, Robert…I am speaking about situations OUTSIDE OF CHURCH.
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:46 amPat Robertson now predicting a big attack,but not nuclear ,according to his divine e-mails he gets every year from God sitting in his religious bunker somewhere in West Virginia. Does he say this because he is close to government and Israeli circles or he is just playing a prophet…He also claims he rarely misses a prediction.
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:49 amWasn’t there a public incident where Jr. cussed out GWH??
Comment by RUCerious
Stone him!!
Somehow a funny little scene from Monty Python’s Life of Brian pops into mind.
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:52 amWC and dlet,
I have never advocated a Constitutional Amendment BANNING or ALLOWING gay marriage. Here is the thought process I used.
1) It is already allowed by the Constitution as a legal contract.
2) The Constitution is not to tell the people what they can do, it is to tell the Government what it CAN’T do.
WC, Freedom of Speech allows for people to publicly and privately condemn homosexual marriage. It also allows people to publicly and privately advocate for gay marriage.
Does your statement, “not believing in God is a sin and failing to believe in God gets you sent to hell†go for everyone?
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:02 amThat is the Christian belief (I think Jews and Muslims share this view, not sure though)and yes it applies to everyone. And, according to Christian belief, just because you do not think it is a sin does not make it less of a sin. (I don’t believe in helmet laws, but it is still a law.)I didn’t create the belief system.
Hey is it true. I hear Billy-boy Clinton is being treated for sex addiction.
Funny, I thought he was being treated for that while he was in office. ROTFL.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:06 am“The New Jersey Legislature will move to abolish the death penalty after a report released yesterday found that capital punishment is costly to taxpayers and serves no ‘legitimate… intent.’†“A 13-member commission, established last year to study the issue, recommended in its report that the death penalty be replaced with life in prison without parole.â€
Finally, some advancement in thinking on this issue.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:08 amHey Happy Guy,
I’d sure like to see a link so I can read about this for myself. Thanks.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:10 am#2, AG Gonzales is not going to play nice with the Democrats, even though they have power now.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:14 amI had to laugh at Bush’s call for bipartisanship this morning — his party is the one that wouldn’t allow Dems to hold meetings, and when they did, the Repugs shut off the lights — Bush is the one who consulted NOT ONE Democrat before making momentous decisions — Repugs are the ones who marched in outrageous lockstep against any reasonable proposal by Dems.
G-D hypocrites! From the top to the bottom – they are criminally corrupt.
Is it true the George W. Bush was treated for alcohol and cocaine addiction after his days as a male cheerleader at Yale?
Funny, it seems he is still exhibiting symptoms of alcoholism. ROTFL.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:15 amThe republicans are turning into whinny babys, they know the hammer is falling, and they don’t want to get caught underneath it.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:15 amA lot of this relegious crap would end if the rich and powerful relegious leaders were required to pay taxes……Being exempt should no longer apply when they use their pulpet to force their will on the public and use it to change the constitution to suit their bible thumping…..Seperation of church and state should be adhered to and if not then they should loose their tax exempt status…Sadly, like everything else, relegion is big business…..Blessings
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:17 amNot to change the subject but did anyone read that Henry Paulson our Secretary of Tresurer was arrested in germany over the holiday weekend? This is important to the American people. All we heard about was the Ford’s Funeral and Saddam Hussein’s Execution. I think the chancellor Angela Merkel from Germany is coming to Washington DC at the end of this week.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:20 amIsn’t it so predictable that when the news revolving around George the boy-king is increasingly depressing and distressful, that trolls like happy guy throw in a fabricated spitball about Clinton.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:21 amShhows how desperate they are to distract from the humiliation of the jackass in the White House.
#46, I think W treated himself for his cocaine and alcohol addictions – he knelt down before Pat Robertson and he was healed.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:24 amAnd finally: Pat Robertson makes his annual predictions. Evangelist Pat Robertson said yesterday that “God has told him that a terrorist attack on the United States would result in ‘mass killing’ late in 2007.†“I’m not necessarily saying it’s going to be nuclear,†Robertson said. “The Lord didn’t say nuclear.†In 2005, Robertson predicted Congress would approve Bush’s Social Security privatization plan. “I have a relatively good track record,†he said. “Sometimes I miss.â€
So who’s the one wearing a tinfoil hat? Just cuz you say God told you its not insane?
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:24 am#50, not one news agency is reporting that – although I followed up on a post from someone here last week and I saw the story on line.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:25 amWhat gives?
Iraq’s Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki dislikes being the country’s leader and wishes he could leave his job. “I wish I could be done with it even before the end of this term. I didn’t want to take this position,†he told the Wall Street Journal.
What else is going on here, the guy reluctantly took the position? Why am I afraid for this guy’s life?
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:25 amThe Justice Department said in a letter it “was not in a position†to provide documents on the CIA’s detention and interrogation of terror suspects that were requested by Sen. Pat Leahy (D-VT), the incoming chairman of the Judiciary Committee
As soon as Bushco is gone, all of the sudden they will be “in the postition” to assist.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:26 amMarie, yep! old happy crap is paid to do that, he can’t help it, he hasen’t got anything of value to contribute so he does the juvanile thing and make’s up stuff about Clinton…LOL…..Blessings
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:27 amTo paraphrase a former Texas Senator…”Pat, I know God and and you are no god (or spokesperson for God) and God doesn’t “talk” to you.” Anyone who believes one letter of anything this wacko says needs serious psychological help. God save us from the Pat Robertsons of this world. Now I have to go take a shower!
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:29 amRight on Tarazan – Preacher Pat needs to be face down in a Guantanamo cell with a flashlight jabbed in his rectum until he tells us where this “the Lord” and his cell are holed up and how they plan to carry out their attack.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:30 amHouse Democrats have finalized ethics reforms that “ban all travel paid for by lobbyists or organizations that employ lobbyists, require the ethics committee to pre-approve travel paid for by outside groups, enact a total gift ban, …require lawmakers to pay the market cost of flying on a corporate jet,†and “prevent the new majority from holding votes open to change the outcome.â€
The current way of doing politics is so entrenched, I don’t really expect any actual changes. Politicians are masters at manipulating the system, they will find ways around it.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:31 am“Only six of 75 U.S. metropolitan areas won the highest grades for their emergency agencies’ ability to communicate during a disaster, five years after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks,†according to a new Dept. of Homeland Security report
I did not read the link, but I bet most of those 6 cities are on the Coasts, and the Northwest. Just a guess.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:32 amK Olbermann gave another special comment last night on “sacrifice” and he blasted Bush again. MSNBC ratings have risen while CNN and FOX are declining – is Olbermann part of the reason? Very possibly.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:33 amEven Joe Scarborough has been somewhat tolerable lately.
#50 & 54
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:37 amThe site reporting this is
http://oldamericancentury.org/bb/index.php?s=a4355a6be54739a065b383439e2731ca&showtopic=12835&pid=83495&st=0&#entry83495
Are they credible?
Haven’t heard of this site before, but the name sounds a lttle wierd.
#50 Mary Poplins
Not to change the subject but did anyone read that Henry Paulson our Secretary of Tresurer was arrested in germany over the holiday weekend?
I’m trying to find more than one source for this. Everything I’ve tracked down so far traces back to one story on worldreports.org and nothing else. If there were an arrest of someone of that stature, I would think the German press would have something. I would think Wayne Madsen or Greg Palast would be all over it. So far, nada.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:37 amHey is it true. I hear Billy-boy Clinton is being treated for sex addiction.
Funny, I thought he was being treated for that while he was in office. ROTFL.
Comment by Happy Guy
Hey, didja hear? Happy Dude thinks the Druge Report is real! And get’s his talking points from them! And posts non-senisical statements, with absolutely nothing to back them up!
Happy Dude. You’re obsession with William Jefferson Clinton’s sex life is unhealthy. Put the Kleenex down, NOW! Your keyboards are way too sticky.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:37 amGo outside and get some fresh air. School starts in less than a week
And the origingal Paulson link comes from http://www.globalanalysis.net/news/38_paulson_and_cheney_s
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:39 amLooks spurious…
Looks like the trollwhoknowethnotthespacebar is back.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:40 amPlease don’t feed it.
That is the Christian belief (I think Jews and Muslims share this view, not sure though)and yes it applies to everyone.
Sorry…it does not apply to someone who does not believe in God. To the Christian, it may, but not to the non-Christian. The point is, the Christian cannot force that belief on the non-Christian. They can try…
The main point about MA’s pending amendment is that it is based on a religious belief. Ask the legislators where they get the idea that marriage is between a man and a woman, and they will point you to the Bible. Every time. The legislators are in essence forcing their religious beliefs upon a group of people who live a different lifestyle and who may or may not believe in God.
Man is trying to force a lifestyle (in this case, no same-sex marriage) by passing a law. And that is wrong. And they are using religion to get it done. What’s next? A law banning pre-marital sex? Kissing in public by anyone other than married couples?
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:41 amMarie
I caught the last half of Olbermann’s commentary and it was potent. I was also struck by the deer-in-the-headlights look that Scarborough had when they transitioned immediately from Olbermann to him. I think Scarborough has been more “tolerant” because of having to follow Olbermann and not really up to the challenge.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:45 amWC, though we may say it differently and think about it differently, I think we still agree.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:45 am#62 ForTruth
I did not read the link, but I bet most of those 6 cities are on the Coasts, and the Northwest. Just a guess.
Not quite. Only two of the six are on the coasts, San Diego and D.C. The other four are Minneapolis-St. Paul (yay!); Columbus, Ohio; Sioux Falls, S.D.; and Laramie County, Wyo.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:45 am27
So, dlet and WC, you are saying that the preacher does not have the right to voice his message? Doesn’t that go against the whole Freedom of Speech?Freedom of Religion thing??
The origional post said the preacher said it could be a hate crime if said in Canada? I don’t think the U.S. Constitution has much relevance up here. If more USers figured out their constitution was only relevant in the U.S. there would probably be a lot fewer problems on the planet.
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Would you want to be the leader of Iraq right now? I doubt it. Maliki has it right. If he survives, he can escape in a year or so.
Comment by PoliticalCritic
Maybe he thought after being elected he would be alowed to lead his country….without being told what to do by bush and the Iranians.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:48 am43
“The New Jersey Legislature will move to abolish the death penalty after a report released yesterday found that capital punishment is costly to taxpayers and serves no ‘legitimate… intent.’†“A 13-member commission, established last year to study the issue, recommended in its report that the death penalty be replaced with life in prison without parole.â€
Finally, some advancement in thinking on this issue.
Comment by Zooey
I’m anti death penalty. I believe punishment ends with the execution. I think Gary Gilmore had that same idea.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:49 amI also believe there should be at least the possibility of parole at some point, except for the worst of the worst, as it will, if nothing else, make the job of the guards easier and less dangerous.
Even Joe Scarborough has been somewhat tolerable lately.
Comment by Marie — January 3, 2007 @ 11:33 am
I agree with that.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:52 am
I’m anti death penalty. I believe punishment ends with the execution. I think Gary Gilmore had that same idea.
I remember when that fiasco was going on. That’s when I began to question the validity of the death penalty.
I also believe there should be at least the possibility of parole at some point, except for the worst of the worst, as it will, if nothing else, make the job of the guards easier and less dangerous.
Comment by el kanuckistani
It’s my feeling that if you have been convicted of a crime that might have held the death penalty, you probably shouldn’t be in society.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:01 pmEvangelist Pat Robertson said yesterday that “God has told him that a terrorist attack on the United States would result in ‘mass killing’ late in 2007… I have a relatively good track record,†he said. “Sometimes I miss.â€
Let me get this strait… if God is giving Pat all the info – doesn’t that mean that it’s God and not Pat that sometimes misses… meaning that either God is not the omniscient being that we all thought he was… or that Pat is a stark raving fukin lunatic listening to the voices in his head.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:35 pmIf more USers figured out their constitution was only relevant in the U.S.
But there are some that would want to apply our Constitution to those even outside of the U.S..
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:46 pmWhat do you say to them?
that heading picture of dubya and al-maliki –
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:56 pmseems strange to have gone out of the way to place these guys in front of each OTHER’S flag instead of each’s own flag… i dunno… nit pick…
just thought it looked weird…
Maliki is leaving the door open for a US backed coup.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:57 pmLet me see if I have this right?
Dubya wants to send more troops to try to support a leader who doesn’t want the job? Why does this confuse me?
Next thing, we will be seeing helicopters lifting the last US citizens (and the rich Iraqis) from the Green Zone HQ. Sound familiar, anyone????
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:09 pmPM Al Maliki hand picked his followers to hang Saddam. Those follower yelled support for Al Sadr thereby showing who they really follow. Maliki was appointed and paid by Bush now he can’t resign. Oh well to bad. Bush will try to send 20,000 more soldiers to die knowing Iraq is in a civil war. Maybe when Americans see 500 soldiers killed per month they might give some thought of bringing our troops home. Most Americans are only finding out now what is really going on and has been going on in Iraq. As my son is in Iraq for the past two years I get up dated information from him and it’s nothing like whats on the news. Our soldiers are sitting ducks in the middle with no way out. American can be proud to support a dictator and murderer name George W. Bush.
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:23 pmuh, WC and dlet, i know i haven’t been around for a while but i don’t think robert is a troll that warrants such bickering. you are all saying the same damn thing. stop being so friggin sensitive and take the blinders off. isn’t there anything else that deserves such deliberation? geez. and kudos for those who recognize what the hell side of a discussion they’re on. ahem – you know who you are. ;)
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:27 pm#65 – i’m not familiar with the link either, but i’m guessing that the Project for the OLD American Century is in opposition to PNAC – Project for a New American Century – a super conservative think tank hellbent on recreating the world as the see fit (limitless wealth and power for themselves) for decades now. See the 2005 article, “WAR PROGRAMMING: The Propaganda Project and the Iraq War”, by David L. Altheide and Jennifer Grimes for some more on PNAC’s role in the War on Iraq (Sociological Quarterly Fall 2005).
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:36 pm“I didn’t want to take this position,†he told the Wall Street Journal
…but the pay was so great!
All hail the puppet regime!!!
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:45 pmWitchWay11,
January 3rd, 2007 at 2:49 pmYou think my post #35 to robert was bickering? And you call me sensitive. Wow. Take it down a notch.
The execution of Saddam is the latest of a long line of Bush’s failures. Can’t he do anything right?
January 3rd, 2007 at 3:32 pmWhat Pat Robrtson missed was the fact he didn’t really talk to God.
January 5th, 2007 at 6:58 amI’ve always wondered why Pat Robertson persists in believing that it was God telling himn that stuff. Why can’t he accept the “fact” (it would be in his belief system) that it was more likely Satan telling him those things? God doesn’t tell people to assassinate, does He?
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