CBS: Military Tells Bush It Has Only 9,000 Troops Available For ‘Surge’
CBS: Military Tells Bush It Has Only 9,000 Troops Available For ‘Surge’
A State Department official leaked word this week that President Bush is considering sending “no more than 15,000 to 20,000 U.S. troops” to Iraq. “Instead of a surge, it is a bump,” the official said.
This claim was bolstered last night by CBS’s David Martin, who reported that military commanders have told Bush they are prepared to execute a troop escalation of just 9,000 soldiers and Marines into Iraq, “with another 10,000 on alert in Kuwait and the U.S.”
Watch it:
The Washington Post reports today that “deep divisions remain between the White House on one side and the Joint Chiefs and congressional leaders on the other about whether a surge of up to 20,000 troops will turn around the deteriorating situation.” The Post also provides more context about an administration official’s recent claim that the escalation is “more of a political decision than a military one.“:
The U.S. military is increasingly resigned to the probability that Bush will deploy a relatively small number of additional troops — between one and five brigades — in part because he has few other dramatic options available to signal U.S. determination in Iraq, officials said. But the Joint Chiefs have not given up making the case that the potential dangers outweigh the benefits for several reasons, officials said.
Escalation backers have already begun distancing themselves from this plan. Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said yesterday that not sending enough troops would be “worse than doing nothing.”
Full transcript:
REPORTER: The president is expected to give his speech on a new way forward in Iraq next week. CBS’s David Martin has learned military commanders told the President they could execute a ‘troop surge’ of 9,000 soldiers and Marines into Iraq, with another 10,000 on alert in Kuwait and the U.S. Two army brigades — about 7,500 troops — would go into Baghdad in an effort to control the violence, clearing neighborhoods and staying long enough for reconstruction projects to take effect. 1,500 Marines would go to the western province of al-Anbar, heartland of the Sunni insurgency. This, even though the Commandant of the Marine Corps was quoted as saying he did not see a need for more battalions. But aides say the President still hasn’t decided for sure on a plan.
TONY SNOW (CLIP): The President understands this is important and needs to be done right.
ANCHOR: And details for the President’s proposal on Iraq are still being hammered out, but Pentagon officials are sure the President will order more troops to Iraq.
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It’s just a number to Bushy. He will insist on it anyway.
It’s all about passing this mess on to the next President now. No withdrawal.
January 5th, 2007 at 1:17 pmTell Surge to get his own troops.
January 5th, 2007 at 1:22 pmI have positive suggestion - if its only a political decision why not print a few thousand of those lifesize carboard copies they’ve been giving to families. Stand a few of those on the corner and Muqtada will toe the line. Oh and Roger Rabbit can toss in a few of his Risk pieces - the ones he’s not using for his “full blown invasion” of Iran.
January 5th, 2007 at 1:23 pmDRAFT YOUNG REPUBLICANS!
January 5th, 2007 at 1:25 pmArmchair warrior Robert Kagan at AEI, the alleged architect of the escalation, clearly states in the executive summary of his plan that soldiers will simply have to accept longer and more frequent deployments, and reservists more frequent mobilizations, as the necessary price of carrying out the lofty Neocon vision of the New World Order.
January 5th, 2007 at 1:25 pmWhew, it’s getting cold in here. Anyone else feel a draft?
January 5th, 2007 at 1:26 pmIt is chilly Tuber,
Many have asked where the additonal troops would come from. I propose all the supporters of Bush and this war head on over there and stand up for what they believe in.
Dayrll
Happy Guy
Tracy
For starters.
January 5th, 2007 at 1:30 pmTell Surge to get his own troops.
Comment by ForTruth
Please don’t give him any ideas!
January 5th, 2007 at 1:37 pmIn the voice of Borat: “Hi-five!”
January 5th, 2007 at 1:39 pmI can’t pick which is sadder.
The fact that we are in this war.
January 5th, 2007 at 1:39 pmThe fact that we have only 9,000 readily available troops left.
The fact that Bush wants to put those troops in Iraq for political reason.
Rick - that’s it - we can call them the 101st Fighting Keyboards or the Big Yellow Elephant Division…
January 5th, 2007 at 1:40 pmWhy do the troops hate The Surge?
January 5th, 2007 at 1:42 pmTomTomorrow is on the case…
http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=21816
January 5th, 2007 at 1:43 pmRick - that’s it - we can call them the 101st Fighting Keyboards or the Big Yellow Elephant Division…
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
And Colbert would call them “the Fightin’ Elephants!” :-)
January 5th, 2007 at 1:46 pmWhy not just take these 9000 young men and women, line them up, and kill the percentage of them that will die in this escapade here in the US. It will save us so much money.
Of course, I’m making a very bad joke. But, it’s a very bad joke about a very bad joke.
I understand that Barb, Jenna, Mary (with Heather), Jonah Goldberg, Jeff Gannon, Fox News’ Bill Hemmer, Mann Coulter and JC Watts are ready to suit up and take on the bad guys that …. oh, wait a minute, oops, never mind.
January 5th, 2007 at 1:47 pm30,000 troops is a ’surge’.
20,000 troops is a ‘bump’.
9,000 troops is a ‘pimple’.
January 5th, 2007 at 1:50 pm9,000 troops is a ‘pimple’.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
The whole mess is giving me a rash…
January 5th, 2007 at 1:54 pmLooks like the Joint Chiefs are about to tell Bush to go surge himself.
January 5th, 2007 at 1:57 pm30,000 troops is a ’surge’.
20,000 troops is a ‘bump’.
9,000 troops is a ‘pimple’.
. . . and the Iraq war (aka, fiasco) is a comma according to GDumbya.
January 5th, 2007 at 1:57 pmIsn’t this actually about the military (along with everybody else, including the electorate) now saying to Bush “enough is enough”?
January 5th, 2007 at 1:57 pmWTF
Only 9,000 troops available? What have the Dems done with all those other troops we had?
And aren’t there any trained and experienced military people who can intervene and tell the NeoCon CHickenhawk Marching Band and Cheerleading Squad the truth?
OHH, I forgot, they have all been fired or have resigned.
NEVER MIND!!!
January 5th, 2007 at 2:00 pmWhew, it’s getting cold in here. Anyone else feel a draft?
Comment by Tuber
Yep, I feel it too. I’m sending my kids away for a while.
January 5th, 2007 at 2:01 pmArticle I, Section 8, Clause 12: [The Congress shall have power] To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
If the troops aren’t there, the Congress has the absolute constitutional authority to tell him, “No, you can’t have any more. Work with what we gave you.” The Commander-in-Chief commands the military he has, not the military he wants. Now where have we heard something like that before?
January 5th, 2007 at 2:05 pmA draft maybe was an option a year ago. We’ll need to hear from the constituional scholars on this but I believe it’s congress who have to initiate a draft. And wouldn’t war have to be declared also?
The country and congress will not have the stomach for a draft, let alone this escalation of stupidity.
In order to truly impeach this group all will have to come to a boil and with Pelosi’s / Reid’s letter to Bush it looks like it’s getting hotter in the kitchen.
January 5th, 2007 at 2:08 pmDavid Martin has learned military commanders told the President they could execute a ‘troop surge’ of 9,000 soldiers and Marines into Iraq
9,000 soldiers ? Only 9,000?
Whatever happened to the 1.4 million men and women the mighty US military can send into Iraq? That is, if you believe the trolls/armchair generals that used to post that nonsense here at ThinkProgress.
Reality -with its damn liberal bias- strikes again.
January 5th, 2007 at 2:08 pmIt’s over. It wasn’t a good idea to begin with, but any fool can see that it’s over now.
This administration wants a permanent military presence in Iraq, and they’ve certainly got that, with their embassy building that visible from space.
Why exactly, then, do we have to throw away the lives of even more Iraqis and Americans?
Congress has the power to stop this now, and whether or not they use that power to start fixing what the neocons have smashed will tell whether or not this country will survive in any recognizable form.
January 5th, 2007 at 2:17 pmDon’t say “bump” around the President, he starts salivating like Pavlov’s dog.
January 5th, 2007 at 2:18 pmINSANITY… may the Bush twins be first to deploy followed by all the other war mongers family members. Maybe if Bush really served in the military, he would think twice about escalating this war.
January 5th, 2007 at 2:29 pmThis thread is like “troll repellant”. None of them want to see us telling them to join up and get over there. Chickenhawks, all of them.
January 5th, 2007 at 2:32 pmShock & Awe, Mission Accomplished, Last Throes, Stay the Course, Troop Surge, well at least their consistent with their euphemisms….
January 5th, 2007 at 2:32 pmWhere are the trolls on this subject? Maybe they all ran down to the Recruiting offices to enlist. Ya Think?
January 5th, 2007 at 2:34 pmIf we have only 9,000 readily available troops and they are sent off to Iraq, who will be left to defend our country? And now the world knows our nation’s military’s degree of vulnerability. So who is going to mind the store while we are “fighting them over there”? For what, the frat boy’s ego? No wonder North Korea is not afraid to continue to develop weapons of mass destruction.
Bush will forever be known as “The Great Destroyer”. He destorys everything he touches. He is the master of incompetence.
January 5th, 2007 at 2:36 pmComment by upside00 — January 5, 2007 @ 2:00 pm
Yup, those spare troops just kinda dried up on GDumbya but that won’t discourage him. After all, there were no WMD in Iraq but that didn’t prevent him from lying about it and dragging this country into his personal vendetta and quagmire.
Can’t you just see GDumbya’s “movie” for the next press corps dinner?
There he is bent over in the Oval Office and looking under the rug . . . “nope, no troops under there”.
lol
January 5th, 2007 at 2:38 pm#28 - may the Bush twins be first to deploy followed by all the other war mongers family members.
Even the US military has minimum standards and won’t take the twins, Barb and not-Barb….. something about untreatable STDs I think.
January 5th, 2007 at 2:40 pmThe trolls must be hiding… yellow elephants, each one them.
January 5th, 2007 at 2:41 pmForTruth - looks like great minds think alike and at the same time.
January 5th, 2007 at 2:42 pm[…] Watch Video […]
January 5th, 2007 at 2:43 pm#29 - No doubt!
Lilly-livered, yello-bellied, Chickenhawks!
C’mon over and git yer head chopped off!
January 5th, 2007 at 2:45 pmUpside - funny response. My apologies… I should have realized that the twins et al couldn’t meet the military standards even after they have been lowered so that gang members could enlist.
January 5th, 2007 at 2:45 pmSo there will 9,000 more troops to drive by buildings and houses that have secret stashes of weapons in the walls or floors while they death squad members that own them walk around in the open.
Sounds like a plan. If we are trying to protect Iraqis who are we supposed to protect? The Sunnis from the Shi’ites or the Shi’tes from the Sunnis? What about the Kurds? How can the US win democracy for Iraq when they are in the middle of a civil war against eachother?
January 5th, 2007 at 2:48 pmSo Tony Snow says that the frat boy knows it must be done right… isn’t that what the bush said back in 2003? He still can’t get it right. History will know bush as the master of incompetence.
January 5th, 2007 at 2:49 pmIndeed Upside00.
January 5th, 2007 at 2:49 pm#39 - Yea, life is full of ironic twists, isn’t it? Not sure what this means, but I did see some Army Recruiters milling around the Betty Ford Clinic.
January 5th, 2007 at 2:49 pmWell, that’s sure inconvenient, isn’t it Chimpy?
January 5th, 2007 at 2:54 pmSorta reminds me of a certain Herr H, moving around divisions that existed only in his mind as the Russians closed in on the bunker. Of course, now it’s the bubble.
January 5th, 2007 at 3:02 pmRE: john mc cain:”not sending enough troops would be worse than doing nothing”
January 5th, 2007 at 3:02 pmWell, DUHHHHH… we know that one for sure by now.
Maybe he can mobilize some of his make-believe battalions, like Adolf did in the bunker.
January 5th, 2007 at 3:03 pmTerry the Turtle has a good idea: “I have positive suggestion - if its only a political decision why not print a few thousand of those lifesize carboard copies they’ve been giving to families.”
I take it a step further: start sending those same cardboard cutouts to our Congressmen and to the white house/
Better yet, send a cardboard cutout of a wounded vet, and ask your representative, “how many more”?
January 5th, 2007 at 3:04 pmMaybe he can mobilize some of his make-believe battalions, like Adolf did in the bunker.
Comment by geoman77
That goes to show how strong a person’s belief system can be. We see the same bullet-proof belief systems in our trolls here. These people would rather die than accept reality.
January 5th, 2007 at 3:07 pmCardboard battalions… kind of reminds me of the Verizon Wireless commercial. Bush and Co are cardboard solders… give Bush/Cheney et al a slight push and they all tumble down. No true depth of character to any of the Bush Cartel.
January 5th, 2007 at 3:18 pmWhy not send in “Seargent Star” and his virtual army of recruiters? We could create a whole virtual army of these digital guys and mop up Iraq since Bush thinks it’s going so hunky dory in his own little fantasy world.
January 5th, 2007 at 3:23 pmCould you please find another series of numbers to identify the trolls you refer to as “The 101st Keyboarders.” I’m a Screaming Eagle who served in Vietnam. The 101st Airborne Division has a long, storied, and honorable history–a history I do not wish to see tarnished by associating it with internet whiners. How about “The 43rd Keyboarders” (after their fearless leader, the 43rd president)? I thank you for your understanding.
January 5th, 2007 at 3:28 pmThis is becoming like Hitler and his imaginary divisions that were going to save Germany from the Russian invasion.
January 5th, 2007 at 3:43 pmsome aspiring asshole did this to try to get ahead while the promotions are being handed out to the ambitious, compliant shitheads who’d rather sell out the troops than save their country’s armed forces for meaningful conflicts.
we need to put an end to the ‘commander-in-chief’ syndrome that is the excuse for chimpy to destroy the country and it’s military capability.
January 5th, 2007 at 3:48 pmSo the shrub wants to ’signal his determination’ with more american lives. what a maroon!
January 5th, 2007 at 3:51 pmDocOc - I 2nd that. Was stationed next to the 101 in Phu Bai, had a couple of good friends in that unit.
January 5th, 2007 at 3:59 pmprobably should tag them the negative first chairborne.
Sorry Doc Oc, the 101st fighting keyboardists, already have patches and stuff made up. Michelle Malkin is very proud to feed the nations youth to war satisfy her “itches”.
January 5th, 2007 at 4:01 pmOr, maybe the -1st HotAirborne…
January 5th, 2007 at 4:04 pmHow about the rightwafas
January 5th, 2007 at 4:05 pmIf they were going to Nam we could name them the
January 5th, 2007 at 4:12 pmKhant Du Long Division…
This is gonna get fugly, Congress should block all funding except funding a safe withdrawal.
The worst part of this final story will be the chaos that is reported when we leave and the neocronies blaming everyone but themselves. ….
January 5th, 2007 at 4:25 pmSad thing is this was never about anything more than enriching the military industrialists.
Look at all the tanks, humvees and bunker busters they get to sell at 500% above wholsale.
For the Bush family and the Neo GOP, our (lower income) warriors are merely there to deliver the hardware to the battle field in order to get the hardware blown up so they can sell more hardware and strap us with years of debt.
Once we’re buried in mountains of debt, we will not be able to fund any “progressive” policies.
The GOP once said they wanted to drown our government in a bathtub, it appears they are drowning us in blood.
January 5th, 2007 at 4:28 pmGeorge Bush is sick, sick, sick.
January 5th, 2007 at 4:31 pmHey! No problem! We’re gonna send the Salvation Army!
January 5th, 2007 at 4:35 pmBush’s “surge” reminds me of Hitler sitting in his bunker ordering non-existant Divisions into the final battle for Berlin.
January 5th, 2007 at 4:35 pm-
The whole issue is derived from a false flag operation.
®Google the term ‘PROJECT MASCAL’ and all will be revealed.
You will see Wick-Pedia with official pictures from the Dept. of Defense, when you click to their source at the Dept of Defense, the pages have been removed.
Why?
®Google the term ‘PROJECT MASCAL’ and all will be revealed.
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January 5th, 2007 at 4:39 pmI wish the reporters would ask where these troops are going to come from, because unless Bush has a few thousands parked up, well, parked somewhere, they aren’t going to be new and they aren’t going to be fresh. Unless he plans on hiring a bunch of mercenaries, you know, private security forces, to free up troops somewhere, the only place to get them is from troops already deployed, either here on the Mexican Border, or from Djibouti or some other front line place, and that just leaves us vulnerable in those locations.
SNAFU doesn’t begin to describe it. Over at the Left Coaster one of the commenters posited a more understandable explanation, and one we may be forgetting-it’s politics. I’m posting it here for better comprehension.
Cheney and Rove decided after the election and the ISG report to create an immediate crisis in Iraq for the new Dem Congress to have to deal with. That’s why all this “New Way NoWhere” was “delayed” until the first week the Congress was in session.
Bushco intentionally fomented this surge-culation crisis to disrupt the Congress from the get-go, make sure they didn’t get to operate under their own agenda and try to railroad a decision continuing the Iraq occupation through ‘08 in the first weeks of the new Congress.
Cheney’s calculation: If the Congress doesn’t try to stop the surge, then it will be immediately discredited, declared dead on arrival and the entire country (which voted for DE-escalation in Iraq) would lose confidence in it from the start.
If Congress does try to stop the surge, then Cheney will “escalate” the confrontation into a constitutional crisis: a deadly game of constitutional “chicken”, gambling that the Congress will blink first, and again be discredited. And the surge will again go forward.
A strong majority of the country supported the ISG report—but Bushco MUST divide the country, that’s its modus operandi, it can’t operate in any other fashion: party over country, always, always.
I’ll predict that the Repubs in Congress will back Cheney, as will the press. The Dem Congress is in a tough spot–a huge crisis is being intentionally forced upon it by this cynical administration. They will need support, not threats.
Posted by euzoius at January 5, 2007 12:52 PM
Think about it, they don’t have the goods, so they’re bluffing, and hoping the Democrats don’t call them on it and expose their fraud when they do.
Don’t blink Speaker, don’t blink!
January 5th, 2007 at 4:45 pmWhere is George Prescott Bush? You know, Jeb’s son. Isn’t he the perfect age to serve our country? Why doesn’t he enlist? No media coverage of his whereabouts. And in 20 years or so watch out for him to be running for office to continue the Bush dynasty. Get the word out. Ask George to support his uncle’s war.
January 5th, 2007 at 4:54 pmA troop surge in Iraq is just another way of saying “forward positioning of troops to invade Iran”
Any questions?
January 5th, 2007 at 4:55 pmDoes anyone seriously think that the wimp chickenhawk squatter currently in the White House would have ever joined the National Guard if he had thought he would risk being sent to combat?
There are so few Rethuglican politicians that have ever demonstrated any personal courage that “coward” has become part of the definition of being a Rethuglican.
January 5th, 2007 at 4:57 pmImpeach if he increases troop levels!!!!!!!!!!
This is insane…
January 5th, 2007 at 5:06 pm“Endsieg, yes, Endsieg! So close, the additional 9000 poor souls must be the “Wunderwaffe”?
January 5th, 2007 at 5:10 pmThe Bush Legacy may be the only thing tempting George to abandon republican politics for a more pragmatic approach. I suspect this has to take time to build (sink-in); in the mean time, his bad-karma debt increases.
January 5th, 2007 at 5:10 pmIt is such a shock for me to learn that we only have 9,000 troops available. Being the Commander-in-Chief, shouldn’t Bush have know this all along. How can you possibley think of sending in 20,000 to 40,000 troops when you only have 9,000 available. And why do we want the rest of the world to know how vulnerable and unprepared we really are. This president is beyond incompetent. When will the madness stop.
January 5th, 2007 at 5:11 pmAnd 9000 troops means fewer than 3000 combat troops and more than 6000 support troops. There’s probably that much of a fluctuation in troop numbers every time there’s a rotation. How will anyone know the “surge” is actually happening?
January 5th, 2007 at 5:15 pmThe Joint Chiefs should add 9000 Troops to Iraq - Bring 200,000 home and tell Dumya the 9000 are now in place. The fuzzy math would befuddle Chickenhawk George and he would never figure it out.
Korsakoffs Alcoholic Psychosis - Confabulation - Ground the Commander in Chief - Incompetent to Serve - Wake up Pelosi and Reid - Dumya is literally Killing this country. Impeachment is the prescription - Disgracing George is a small price to pay to Salvage the life of our Country.
January 5th, 2007 at 5:21 pmI am thankful that my reserve time is over.
January 5th, 2007 at 5:23 pmWrite to Congress and demand they revoke the War Powers Authorization Act asap. Absent defunding the war and/or impeachment, that’s the only thing that can stop Bush at this point (added benefit: he won’t be able to attack Iran without Congressional approval).
January 5th, 2007 at 5:23 pmGet the troops from Israel and let them fight their own damn wars. We see how well they did in Lebanon.
January 5th, 2007 at 5:27 pmI am suddenly reminded of Hitler in the bunker, insisting that non-existent troops be moved to defend Berlin.
January 5th, 2007 at 5:35 pmI can just hear the White House response regarding the “perceived discrepency” between 20,000 and 9,000. Given the enormous heaps of lies and distortions from those boobs, we can expect a howling laugh a minute about this one.
January 5th, 2007 at 5:53 pmwhy not get rid of few more ignorant mouths to feed before the impending economic collapse. Bye bye Amerikkka.
January 5th, 2007 at 5:58 pm[…] A State Department official leaked word this week that President Bush is considering sending “no more than 15,000 to 20,000 U.S. troops†to Iraq. “Instead of a surge, it is a bump,†the official said. […]
January 5th, 2007 at 6:03 pmI guess that c- in college wasn,t for math
January 5th, 2007 at 6:27 pmThe surge will include LEAVING troops there that were supposed to come home. So, while we aren’t actually sending the whole group there, there will be more soldiers and marines there. Unfortunately, they are already strung out and most of them are probably going to be informed, if not already, that they are NOT going home on their orginal end date. Mark my words, the bastards are working around a way to do it without a draft, and it is going to be horrible for the military.
January 5th, 2007 at 6:30 pmBut since these idiots have had power, what hasn’t?
-Get a rope-
January 5th, 2007 at 6:37 pmVIETNOW!!! My how history repeats itself. These politicians do not represent you they represent their own self interest. Destroy your IDOLS.The Top down power structure is coming down WAKEUP and seek you inner wisdom.PEACE
January 5th, 2007 at 6:46 pm[…] Think Progress / January 5, 2007 […]
January 5th, 2007 at 6:58 pmFROM CNN online:
TIME OUT, boy George, now go put your nose in the corner until we call you…
January 5th, 2007 at 7:00 pmYOU ARE ALL COWARDS!!! ITS CALLED SACRIFICE…YOU HAVE TO GIVE SOMETHING TO GET SOMETHING…TOO BAD SOME AMERICANS HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT IT TAKES HARD WORK AND SACRIFICE TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING….YOU DON’T CLAP YOUR HANDS AND MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE….IT TAKES BLOOD, SWEAT, AND TEARS!!! STOP HINDERING AMERICA AND GO JOIN THE ARMY!
January 5th, 2007 at 7:09 pmDid someone fart in here?
January 5th, 2007 at 7:18 pmBy now, everyone must know the Bush people perpetrated 911. You’re just afraid to admit it because it is much uglier than the lie and in a way it makes you complicit for supporting the lies. Let’s get out of Iraq and Afghanistan and give them whatever money we would be spending in lieu of perpetual occupation for reparations. I’m sure they will be relieved to get us out of their lives. Then let’s just leave everybody alone and take care of justice here at home where our real trouble is.
January 5th, 2007 at 7:21 pmI think this admin is scared crapless on the idea of a draft. But to paraphrase the Bushmeister, “bring it on.” That will quickly prove or disprove McCain’s statement that Lieberman was re-elected because Americans do not want to exit Iraq.
If the country really wants to stay, public support for a draft should be well over 50%. It’s time for the neo-cons to put up or shut up. Is this war crucial enough to send your kids over there to fight? If so, vote to send them. If it’s only important enough to send someone else’s kids, be ready to explain why.
January 5th, 2007 at 7:21 pmThe Republican Brigade
The Bush supporters, all 21% of them, should volunteer their closest eligible family member to form a new division, The republican brigade. They are so dedicated, I am sure they would clean up the Sunni triangle in a week. The reality is that after the first time they are fired upon, Bush will declare victory and get them out of there.
January 5th, 2007 at 7:33 pmTo the SCREAMING American @91,… it is “G” who is the coward. Along with all his SCREAMING coward chickenhawks.
January 5th, 2007 at 7:33 pmWhat we need to sacrifice is “G”’s cowardly EGO !
You can be the last fool to die for “G”, I’d rather get laid.,
To the SCREAMING American @98,
Thx for the reminder,
January 5th, 2007 at 7:50 pm…(me inhales deeply … swooooosh ….Cough…cough….gasp )
BTW SCREAM, do you know where I can get some of that good blow the CIA used to bring in??? I heard that it all goes to Texas these dayz.
Impeach BUSH. He is a deserter, coward, liar, torturer, criminal, traitor.
January 5th, 2007 at 7:53 pmImpeachment is too easy. We need indictments.
January 5th, 2007 at 8:05 pmThe sooner people wake up to the fact that 9/11 was a big lie the sooner we can prosecute these people and beg the world for forgivness for the last 100 yearsof our Foreign policy projects. Watch Iraq For Sale and you tell me who would have something to gain from pulling off 9/11 and it sure as hell int al-Queda oh btw where the hell is al-Queda or Bin Laden? Like it or not those buildings were blown up by people working for the intrests of devious individuals in the White House who still have pension plans with a war profiteering company..mostly Dick Cheney ad Halliburton. The shock is over and the truth needs to come out. We need a new investigation into what really happend. The Democrates can save themselves a world of trouble by simply dealing with this problem and not letting this become another JFK which no one beleives happend the way they said. Now Saddam is dead and he cant talk about how we supported him gassing the Kurds with chemical weaposn we sold him..this country is the most violent nation on this planet and all becasue people cant face the ugly truth and force the criminals out of this country.
January 5th, 2007 at 8:08 pmThe JFK Asassination was a coup de tat. The same bunch who killed him have been ruining the country ever since.
January 5th, 2007 at 8:15 pmYOU ARE ALL COWARDS!!! ITS CALLED SACRIFICE…YOU HAVE TO GIVE SOMETHING TO GET SOMETHING…TOO BAD SOME AMERICANS HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT IT TAKES HARD WORK AND SACRIFICE TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING….YOU DON’T CLAP YOUR HANDS AND MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE….IT TAKES BLOOD, SWEAT, AND TEARS!!! STOP HINDERING AMERICA AND GO JOIN THE ARMY!
Comment by American
I trust you will be right in front of me to enlist?
The only people who seem to support this war are old people who came from a time when it was looked down upon to criticize your government.
And if there is a draft, I am 100% certain all celebrities will be exempt, or they’ll be given a civilian post. The only ones out there dying will be us Average Joes. When’s the last time you heard of a celebrity being sent to combat?
I say we dress Bush in fatigues, stick an M-4 in his hand, and send him out there to fight. Oh, and let’s be sure to put Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, and the other Neo-Cons out there with them. Let them fight for their own New World Order.
Bush is a puppet.
January 5th, 2007 at 8:26 pmsuggestion has been made (91) that we all join the army. but i thought the us army was now having no trouble meeting its quotas. which means they have all the soldiers that they (i mean we) can pay for. this is not the french revolutionary levee en masse but a professional, career-based army. so it is not lack of soldiers, but a lack of policy. some state (even john keegan, of all people) that if we hadn’t run into flak domestically we could have kept fighting in vietnam. that is correct: we could still be fighting there. the same is true in iraq. we could fight there forever. but that would bankrupt our nation, and would mean killing a good chunk of the iraqis. is that what we want to do? let’s see: would leave the kurds alone, but fight most of the sunnis and the shias.
leech (97)?; those who are all for throwing my taxes down an endless hole of fighting both sides of a civil war at the same time are the real leeches to me (although if i had more stock in so-called “private” companies that live off the teat of no-bid, public contracts in war zones, i suppose i wouldn’t be so bitter).
January 5th, 2007 at 8:35 pmI agree, we need to send more troops. I suggest that the first one to go is the yellow bellied scum sucking AWOL bastar Bush, himself. Give him an M-16 and he can take the point, with his two drunk daughters right behind him.
January 5th, 2007 at 8:38 pmYep,
Someone definitely farted.
IMHO 91,97 & 98 really don’t pass the smell test.
It’s amazing how fragrant blind patriotism can be.
IThis undeclared war has never been about morality, or doing the thing right.
It’s about doing the “right” thing, which is making money and holding on to power at all costs, especially if someone else has to pay the bills.
Stay the course, surge the stay, whatever you want to label it this week. It’s a lie that will keep killing our kids and they do it for kicks and profit.
Cheney wants it because he’s getting filthy rich, same with the BushCo familey and their Carlisle Group pals. They are all getting RICH!
Meanwhile back at the ranch the red staters want to “fight it out” because they bought the scary propaganda hook line & sinker and have scared themselves shitless. Apparently they believe somehow that fighting a losing war makes them more macho or some such crap.
I think it just makes more dead soldiers and bankrupts our morality myself.
Many of these frightened ones have need to believe “The Father”will protect them from them evildoer ‘terrists, thing is the father is drug addled drunken puppet who hasn’t enough mental prowess to recognize a clue if it sat on his face and wiggled and it’s Cheney who’s pulling the strings all the way to the bank.
So please, whatever you do pay no attention to the men behind the curtain, you wouldn’t like what you’d see there anyway.
January 5th, 2007 at 8:49 pmIt’s looking like the war mongers have chickened out.
January 5th, 2007 at 8:51 pmThe article alludes that the US has “no dramatic options” left……isn’t cornering oneself into a no options position the height of failed policies and leadership? Like the other comment notes….Bush just wants to offload the whole fiasco on whoever wins in ‘08……that way he can rationalize to his drunken brain that he ‘did all he could’ and at least a few stupid Republicans will buy it, especially with FOX pushing that storyline.
January 5th, 2007 at 8:52 pm@ 76, 97, 98, …
Hay, halbert, Chill dude…
Ur gonna bust one 4 sure.
Just kick off the boots for a bit & take the clip out.
See if yer kid has a joint U can borrow.
Relax, your eyes R getting heavy.
Now think, … It’s true…
yo have no reason to exist, you have no right to anything.
Everything you believe is false.
People are laughing at you behind your back, …
…and straight in your face.
Now put he clip back & eat the barrell
January 5th, 2007 at 8:56 pmNNzzz asshole.
‘BE A REAL MAN AND JOIN THE SERVICE IT WILL DO YOU SOME GOOD AND ALLOW YOU TO THINK FOR YOURSELF FOR A CHANGE’
Since when did joining the service do that?
Get bent.
January 5th, 2007 at 9:05 pmI think it is possible Bushwhacker wants to strengthen the hold in Iraq before the war starts up with Iran, you know, put some cushioning on the sides. However, is possible that Israel will attack Iran and US will back her up. 9,000 troops left and sent there? Yeah we will pretty much be left defenseless so a city can get nuked, via one of USA buddies on PURPOSE, so Pres can call in Martial Law. I hear Goose-stepping with boots marching……..
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January 5th, 2007 at 9:41 pm[…] El Presidente apparently wants to talk tough about a big “surge” in troop strength in Iraq, but it seems that all the Pentagon can spare is a burp. […]
January 5th, 2007 at 9:43 pmARE THAT MANY OF YOU REALLY THAT CLUELESS. AMERICA WAS ATTACKED ON OUR GROUND. THIS IS NOT A WAR ABOUT POLITICS, THIS IS A WAR ABOUT PROTECTING WHAT WE HAVE IN AMERICA. SOME OF YOU NEED TO WAKE UP FROM THAT FAIRY TALE YOU ARE LIVING IN.
January 5th, 2007 at 9:47 pmIn George Orwell’s novel, “1984″, there is a character named Emmanuel Goldstein. In the story it is never made clear whether
Goldstein is a real person or just a psychological concoction of the Big Brother government used to control the population
through fear of terrorism. Goldstein is said to be the leader of an Al Qaeda-like group called the Brotherhood. Here is an excerpt:
(Winston) “Does the Brotherhood exist?”
(O’Brien) “That, Winston, you will never know. If we choose to set you free when we have finished with you,
and if you live to be ninety years old, still you will never learn whether the answer to that question is Yes or No.
As long as you live it will be an unsolved riddle in your mind.”
We know that Osama Bin Laden at least did exist and he was used in much the same way as Goldstein. They gave us the
perfect Disneyesque villain to fill our imaginations - complete with turban, beard and flowing robes. He certainly is a slippery
character. I think he has magical powers like Jafar in Aladdin. He just disappeares.
Anyway, what we do know is that Bin Laden was CIA backed in
Afghanistan (1979-1989). I guess he just went bad. That’s funny; we did the same thing with Saddam Hussein and the Baath
Party when we supported them in a coup against the existing Iraqi government of Abdul-Karim Qassim in 1963. That’s funny;
we did the same thing in Iran in 1953 when Kermit Roosevelt, head of the CIA’s middle eastern division and grandson of
Teddy Roosevelt, led a coup_d’tat against the democratically elected government of Mohammed Mossadegh and then installed
their puppet dictator, the Shah. That’s funny; we did the same thing when we invaded Afghanistan in 2003 and installed the…,
excuse me; he was “elected”…, Unocal energy company consultant Hamid Karzai to be their dict-, I mean president.
I wonder why those people hate us so much?
And where did Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction go? Well, we destroyed them in the early 1990’s after the first gulf war. Where
did they come from in the first place? Well, we gave them to them before, during and after the Iran-Iraq war (1980-1988). Iran was also
fighting with American arms which we gave them during the tenure of the Shah and after. Remember Iran-Contra? I guess the joke
was on them…divide, conquer and we pick up the pieces. How Iran, Iraq, ironic!
I wonder why the world stays in such turmoil all of the time? It’s as if someone keeps stirring the pot.
January 5th, 2007 at 9:55 pmIt won’t matter if 10,000 or 100,000 or a 1,000,000 are dispatched to Iraq. The war is lost because the leadership is no good. There is no clear policy. There never has been a clear policy. They can start up the draft and get more boots on the ground but the war is lost because the Iraqis know why we’re there and it has nothing to do with democracy. It’s all about oil and Israel.
January 5th, 2007 at 10:00 pm117. Who attacked us American? Al Qiada attacked us, not Iraq. You want to see a major surge in supporting this president. Take all the troops out of Iraq, put them in Afghanistan. Hunt down Bin Laden, Mullah Omar and the rest of Al Qiada and the Taliban. Let’s go after the one’s who attacked us.
Don’t you dare use that misplaced patriotism against me. I have served for this country and our involvement in Iraq has nothing to do with protecting this country. None, absolutely none. There is no reason to be in Iraq that has to do with our own National Security. Every single trumped up idea that was pushed down our throats has been proved false so it is you living in a fairy tale.
America was attacked by terrorists, Idealists, Fanatics but not Iraq. They were desperate and used our open society to slither in and attack. We took our eyes off the prize. Rumsfeld requested targets in Iraq 2 weeks after we attacked Afghanistan. When asked why because we were in here and not in Iraq he is quoted saying “There are no good targets in Afghanistan, All good targets are in Iraq.” That is long before mushroom clouds, yellow cake uranium or the other fears about Iraq popped up.
They planned this and they didn’t execute it right. So you want to follow him for some missguided patriotism that’s your right. Don’t expect the rest of the country to be so blind.
Open your eyes and question authority. I will no matter who is in the White House.
January 5th, 2007 at 10:03 pmIt won’t matter is ‘Dubya sends 10,000 or 100,000. The die is cast and it ain’t going our way. The Iraqis know we don’t give a damn about them. They know this is oil and Zionist expansion.
January 5th, 2007 at 10:04 pm117
America was attacked. but…
The planes did not take down the Twin Towers. The planes were for shock value, to take your mind off the fact that there were demolition charges already planted in the buildings. The twin towers did not collapse as is hypnotically repeated. They exploded, pulverized, dissintegrated into dust floor by floor from the top down and came down in ten seconds or less for each building. How did that happen? World Trade Center Seven, a 47-story building a block away from WTCs 1 and 2, was never hit by a plane yet it imploded at 5:20 on the afternoon of the same day just like a controlled demolition.
We have a much bigger problem than fighting the “terrorists” over there. The enemy is inside the gates, and they have infiltrated the palace.
January 5th, 2007 at 10:05 pmLonnie, there are web sites for the 9-11 stuff, this is not one of them. Don’t repeat the stuff you can’t back up with credible sources.
January 5th, 2007 at 10:10 pmDon, I’ve always seen the oil connection. The first building secured when entering Baghdad was the Ministry of Oil. But this Zionist expansion theory? what purpose does that serve?
January 5th, 2007 at 10:12 pm[…] So, those 20,000 to 30,000 extra troops that the president was going to “surge” into Iraq? Are a freakin’ fantasy. The most we can muster is apparently 9,000. […]
January 5th, 2007 at 10:14 pm123
January 5th, 2007 at 10:15 pmThat attitude is exactly why the nightmare goes on and on.
Lonnie - my attitude is based on a detailed and objective view of the opinion and facts on both sides of the argument. Again - show me the properly sourced evidence that 9-11 was an total inside job or find somewhere else to peddle your stuff.
“Tell a little truth with many lies, it’s the only way I’ve found”
January 5th, 2007 at 10:34 pm- Ronnie James Dio
I was with you most of post #118 Lonnie, but if you just dribble on without sourcing your dribble especially the 9-11 stuff, you sound like the guy at end of the bar I just came from.
January 5th, 2007 at 10:36 pmHalibut Homefry - do you really think that posting the same post in every thread means that people read you at all?
“Turning Japanese I think I’m turning Japanese, I really think so”
- The Vapors
Have you got the vapors, Halibut?
January 5th, 2007 at 10:45 pmIt sounds like you already know where the sources are. I was just stating the obvious. You are afraid to make up your mind where you stand. The bar crack was unnecessary. Maybe you should stay out of bars.
January 5th, 2007 at 10:46 pmLonnie, the sources are not credible and have been successfully challenged both scientifically and probabilistically to my satisfaction. Let me tell you where I stand since you think I am afraid of something:
I think that Cheney knew that some kind of attack was coming and did not appreciate the scale that it might take. I think that they avoided stepping up vigilance like Clinton and Gore did in 1999 and as result, 9-11 came by - which was far worse than they imagined. But nevertheless, their PNAC agenda was ready to go and the ‘new Pearl Harbor’ was the catalyst.
Now, why don’t you consider the following:
(1) If 9-11 was a complete inside job, why didn’t such a sophisticated operation find the wherewithal to plant some WMD in Iraq for someone to find?
(2) If 9-11 was a complete inside job, how do you explain the rank incompetence with which this administration has conducted its subsequent efforts?
Still, you have not provided a single solid source that can survive the ’smell’ test on 9-11. There are several architects who blog here who if you wish to debate on your 9-11 stuff, you may do so. As for me, I’ll be in the bar. You questioned my ‘attitude’ first, sunbeam, don’t throw stones in glass houses.
January 5th, 2007 at 10:58 pm132
The “incompetence” is an act. Whatever the subsequent plans are, they already had them laid out.
As for the wmd’s, they are so arrogant they couldn’t care less if you think they were there or not.
Thank you for your stance.
January 5th, 2007 at 11:08 pmI read the gov was promicing a $40,000 sign-up bonus to “aliens”, illegal or otherwise to join. Talk about hard up!! Hey, the last one out of America–don’t forget to turn out the light.
January 5th, 2007 at 11:17 pmLonnie, if then the incompetence is an act, what are they going to do now? By your thesis, ‘they’ are still in complete control, yes?
Let me confess my blind spot: election fraud. I have still not figured out how 2000 and 2002 and 2004 were ripped off and yet 2006 did not work out for them.
January 5th, 2007 at 11:20 pmPlease listen to Lonnie. If you want the truth check out
this site. Its in the public domain.
http://video.google.ca/ videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=911+mysteries
January 5th, 2007 at 11:21 pmhttp://video.google.ca/ videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=911+mysteries
January 5th, 2007 at 11:24 pm135
Chaos and destabilization is the strategy, globalization is the goal, independent nation states are the casualties, including the United States.
2006 was so you would stop doubting the electronic voting machines.
January 5th, 2007 at 11:27 pmDemocrats won’t change the plan.
John,
I have seen 911 Mysteries. I have it linked to my web site.
Thank you.
January 5th, 2007 at 11:29 pmI live in Canada, I still cant understand why impeachment proceedings have not been initiated.
Burglary in Watergate
Blow job in the Oval office
But not mass murder of your own cictizens, no, we’ll leave that one alone.
Waken up America
January 5th, 2007 at 11:35 pmTerrythe Turdsniffer and Lonnie the MoRonnie, where can I get me one of them tin-foil hats you kooks wear so proudly?
What a bunch of frickin’ kooks…
January 5th, 2007 at 11:37 pm2006 was so you would stop doubting the electronic voting machines.
Democrats won’t change the plan.
Voting fraud is more complex than that. Read some Greg Palast. He was right on 2000 and 2004 but off on 2006. Its not limited to the electronics. I think both Palast and Rove underestimated the swing to the left and also were aware of the pressure - they appear to have pushed hard in only a few states. I am disappointed that Palast has not come back and addressed his miss in 2006.
If you want the truth Thanks for your opinion John, I will review anything that makes sense, in the meantime, Occam’s Razor is in the driver’s seat.
January 5th, 2007 at 11:40 pmkeef - well that was quite a splash wasn’t it? Bars close early in your town or did the needle exchange have a rush earlier in the day?
January 5th, 2007 at 11:41 pm#140 - likewise - at least you live on the right side of the ‘Electronic Berlin Wall’ (see Greg Palast). What you see and what is seen here south of the 48th are two different things - hence the myth of American Exceptionalism is still strong and, well the rest is just politics. One dollar one vote. How’s Harper working out for you?
January 5th, 2007 at 11:43 pmI am afraid he has fallen into the Bush web. He has been attending Bilderburg meetings etc. He is on board with the neocons.
January 5th, 2007 at 11:46 pmYea, I know there is much more to vote fraud. The whole thing is out of our control. People with way too much money and power think they own the world.
Goodnight.
January 5th, 2007 at 11:48 pmeveryone gone to bed!!!!!
January 6th, 2007 at 12:12 amNight Lonnie, enjoyed the exchange, come back and throw more punches, that’s what it is about. The Mossadegh story is little known in the US.
January 6th, 2007 at 12:14 amJohn come on back sometime soon - more Canadians needed on this site.
January 6th, 2007 at 12:46 amWill do Terry. Funny thing is I am more involved and worried about US politics than in my own counntry. I realise what is going on in the world, all emanates from the US. What intreagues me is the power of the media to block the truth from the public. Thats the scary part. I have to also ask the question, surely the Dem leaders are aware of 9/11 and JFK, both coming from the same sinister Bush cartel. Yet they seem to go along with it. Consider all those secret service people who facilitated both crimes, but go about their business as usual. The mind boggles. Lastly, I have travelled extensively to the US on business for the last 20 years. I have told my boss to re assign future US projects to someone else. Sorry to say, I will never set foot on US soil again.
January 6th, 2007 at 1:05 amSay that these 9000 troops do calm bagdad. great. we did the same thing to falluja, remember? 6 months latter the insurgents came back and falluja has been a choatic shithole ever since.
Doesn’t bush realize this isn’t 2003? this isn’t the “battle for bagdad”, there is no “head of the snake” to be cut off. it is a useless endevour.
maybe he will put up a “mission accomplished” banner when we take bagdad the second time. sweet, bittersweet, semi-victory. republican victory!!
God help us all.
January 6th, 2007 at 2:33 amMy fellow americans, Many good points above..Bush & Cheney may have decided to escalate the Iraq 1) To take away the intiative from Congress now the Democrats are in power 2) Inject the Iraq war in front to divide the country as they always do…their approach to winning elections is based on hatred for the other side as we have seen in the past 3) A last chance for Bush to get soemthing right in Iraq as so far it has turned into a quagmire and leave the mess for the next President …
January 6th, 2007 at 3:01 amI just wonder Bush is the same person who avoided Draft in the past & was AWOL from the Guards…. The chickenhawks Cheney & other neocons all avoided draf…. During these tough times & our country suffering Bush daughters were enjoying hoildays in Chile - some scarifice from the Bush family….
Be very careful with some comments here posted by sob republicans to indicate that 9/11 was inside job etc as if the comments are from democrats .. It is just non sense but a way for them to pile up hatred on us … These republicans have no shame and willstoop the lowest life to ply their hatred for those who disagree with them…
To those who republicans who talk about Democracy in Iraq …give me a break… your actions tell a different story … Go join and fight Bush democracy in Iraq …but I doubt you will do that ….f*** chickens hawks …
I recall Katrina when Bush did not know that 1000 + folks have died in our country and he was no where to be seen … Compassionate conservative …my A** ..
Where to find more troops ? what a silly quistion
January 6th, 2007 at 3:48 amjust build more barracks and use them to create more GIS and send them straight to the enemy base and destroy it
Nah its too bad that this solution is only possible in the world of Red Alert “Yuri’s Revenge” strategy game , dubya wishes that he live in such world when there is no senate or congress , no democracy , no public opinion , no media , enough number of troops to conquer the world and no families to ask about the dead soldiers
in this world he can create more and more troops whenever he wants to “surge”
but I am so sorry Herr Dubya , the real world doesnt have the simplicity and perfection of the binary world
[…] CBS recently reported that the U.S. military says only 9,000 forces are available for a surge, with 10,000 more “on alert in Kuwait and the U.S.” […]
January 6th, 2007 at 4:54 am32. If we have only 9,000 readily available troops and they are sent off to Iraq, who will be left to defend our country? And now the world knows our nation’s military’s degree of vulnerability. So who is going to mind the store while we are “fighting them over there� For what, the frat boy’s ego? No wonder North Korea is not afraid to continue to develop weapons of mass destruction.
Bush will forever be known as “The Great Destroyerâ€. He destorys everything he touches. He is the master of incompetence.
DON’t forget bush is only a puppet on strings. he will be know as the great destroyer but probably he didn’t made up any of this plannes himself.
January 6th, 2007 at 9:40 amit’s the big company’s and unknown people behind the screens that will have profits of everything youre president plans to do.
So I guess prosecutor Fitzgerald will be right on that one.
And of course I see the latest news surge now there is a surge of gushing praise for the new congress. Mean while despite all the propaganda looks like momentum is slowing from “We are going to bring back the troops”, to “We are not going to send more troops”, to “We are not going to send as many as you would like for us to”
I’m sure their wrangling their hands in hope for some more troop death numbers anything to help the terrorist movement and break the back of the American’s defense of their freedom and liberties.
Hell I bet they are making phone calls to the insurgents asking them to not loose hope and please do not give up if they can keep up[ the pressure a little longer maybe a “Big One” that could maybe take out massive casualties that would be great propaganda for the Demoncrats to use against their own country.
Probably are still taking the absurd position that the Marines involved at Hadithia are guilty. Likely hoping to use that as a propaganda tool against the possibility of a door to door sweep stratagy.
Here comes Kerry I can hear it all ready. “Our stupid soldiers that do not go to college terrorizing Iraqi women and children in their own homes.”
January 6th, 2007 at 10:09 am[…] Bush wants 30,000 - 40,000 more troops in Iraq. I can agree with that. Either increase the number of troops or leave. The problem is that the military can only bring in 9,000 more from else where. If Bush goes through with his plan, where will the remainding 21,000 soldiers come from? MadAsHell, I suggest you advance your marriage date and have a kid soon. The draft is more likely than before. However, before they reinstate the draft, I suggest all the neocons, all the Bush voters, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Bill O’Reilly, etc. put their money where their mouth is and volunteer to go over there. […]
January 6th, 2007 at 10:54 amThis is all armchair quarterbacking. They keep you focused on the meaningless details so that you won’t get the big picture. You can’t see the forest for the trees.
January 6th, 2007 at 11:12 amTom Tomorrow has a funny comment in his great comic strip on the lack of Republican support in the form of actually joining the effort on the ground here:
http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=21816
January 6th, 2007 at 12:03 pmThey ARE guilty you GOP freak. What do you think happens to an 18 yr olds mind when you throw him into an urban war zone with no borders really, where the enemy is all around, and your tour of duty is extended over and over and over again,…when if you complain you need some mental counseling you are told to suck it up…….what do you think is the result? I’m surprised more of them haven’t cracked.
Typical for repubs to drink the propaganda koolaid from the bush and rummy (hey even he got out), and then turn it around to say the rest of us americans are against the troops.
disgusting post.
January 6th, 2007 at 12:09 pmFBI Whistleblower Sibyl Edmunds is very credible. Go to her site http://www.JustACitizen.com to learn about who really benefited planned and pulled off the crime of 911 and it wasn’t the arabs or the iranians.
Google the Dancing Israelis - we know who were really dancing in the streets on 911 and again, IT WASN’T THE ARABS!
January 6th, 2007 at 12:57 pmI am for the withdrawal of troops now. However, may i suggest that all the young and not so young republicans, be called to enlist immediately, or have a perminent YELLOW MARK, placed down the center of their faces.
The surge will depend on whether 15,000 to 20,000 young and not so young republicans sign up and that they are the surge. No warhawk signups, no surge!!!!
January 6th, 2007 at 1:18 pmPeople seem to still believe there is a difference between the Democrats and the Republicans, the Liberals and the Conservatives. Both sides are corporate-lobbyist lapdogs. If you think for even a moment that things will change once a Democrat is president, you are sadly mistaken.
And all these old people who are supporting this bogus war, you’re only doing so because your asses were obligated to join back in Vietnam (I’m assuming there’s no WW2 vets on here.) You want to see us go through the bullshit you went through.
And you knuckleheads who are making the racist jokes are a disgrace to this country. I hope you are the first to be shipped off to Iran after we inevitably “spread Democracy” to them. Here’s a helpful hint. When the Iranians start shooting, don’t duck.
To all of you chicken-hawks, sieg heil!
January 6th, 2007 at 2:13 pmsoldiers who are scheduled for iraq should follow bush and his air force career, go awol, don’t fullfill your duty. bush did it and look at the job he got.
January 6th, 2007 at 2:15 pmSomewhere OBL is having a very Happy New Year…
January 6th, 2007 at 5:53 pmYeah Samantha war is not a walk in the park. So why is the left bringing it on us all the time.
“Better red than dead” remember that one? The left wanted to cave in to communism so bad they could taste it and were more than willing to betray their country to accomplish that means.
Now their still stuck in that mode. You know you have nothing to worry about