Pelosi: Congress Will Not Fund Escalation If Bush Does Not Justify It
Pelosi: Congress Will Not Fund Escalation If Bush Does Not Justify It
This morning on CBS’s Face the Nation, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) announced that Congress may refuse to authorize funding for an escalation of U.S. forces to Iraq if President Bush cannot justify the strategy.
Pelosi stated clearly that Congress will fully support all U.S. forces currently in Iraq. “But if the president wants to add to this mission, he is going to have to justify it,” Pelosi said. “This is new for him because up until now the Republican Congress has given a blank check with no oversight, no standards, no conditions, and we have gone into this situation, which is a war without end, which the American people have rejected.”
Watch it:
A recent Center for American Progress memo explains how Congress could — and should — prevent Bush from sending more troops into a civil war in Iraq without a clear mission. An excerpt:
Although the new Congress should not refuse to provide the funds that the troops already in Iraq and Afghanistan need, it can place an amendment on the supplemental funding bill that states that if the administration wants to increase the number of troops in Iraq above 150,000, it must provide a plan for their purpose and require an up or down vote on exceeding that number.
Defense Appropriations Chairman John Murtha (D-PA) told Arianna Huffington last week that he wants to “fence the funding,” denying the president the resources to escalate the war, instead using the money to take care of the soldiers as we bring them home from Iraq “as soon as we can.”
UPDATE: Taylor Marsh has video of the rest of Pelosi’s interview.
UPDATE II: Bob Geiger has more analysis.
Full transcript:
SCHIEFFER: So, you’ve told him what you don’t want to do, and that is to expand the size of the force in Iraq even on a short-term basis. But what if he decides to do that? What will be your action then?
PELOSI: If the president chooses to escalate the war, in his budget request we want to see a distinction between what is there to support the troops who are there now. The American people and the Congress support those troops. We will not abandon them.
But if the president wants to add to this mission, he is going to have to justify it. And this is new for him because up until now the Republican Congress has given him a blank check with no oversight, no standards, no conditions. And we’ve gone into this situation, which is a war without end, which the American people have rejected.
SCHIEFFER: Now, let me ask you, and make sure I understand exactly what you are saying because, up until now, Democrats have not been enthusiastic about using the ultimate weapon, and that is to cut off funding.
PELOSI: We won’t do that.
SCHIEFFER: But you will not vote any more money to expand the size of the force there?
Is that what you’re telling us?
PELOSI: I’m saying two things. We will always support the troops who are there. If the president wants to expand the mission, that’s a conversation he has to have with the Congress of the United States.
But that’s not a carte blanche, a blank check to him to do whatever he wishes there.
And I want to make a distinction here. Democrats do support increasing the size of the Army by 30,000, the Marines by 10,000 to make sure we’re able to protect the American people.
SCHIEFFER: Enlarging the services overall?
PELOSI: Overall, in order to protect the American people against any threats to our interests, wherever they may occur. That’s different, though, from adding troops to Iraq.
The president wants to escalate a war where his generals are telling him that the additional troops will not be effective, that they’re easily digestible, to have this number of troops go into Baghdad, and then again, ignoring the strong message of the American people.
SCHIEFFER: So at this point, the Democrats in Congress are not prepared to pay for or to fund an additional number of troops in Iraq?
PELOSI: We have to see what the president has to say. It’s not an open-ended commitment anymore. But we will always be there to protect our troops and to support our troops.
Way to go Nancy.
January 7th, 2007 at 11:45 amThe terrorists are emboldened by the mid-term elections and an outcome in which they believe was a victory for them. Watching Pelosi being sworn in serves to create more hatred for America and it’s collective way of life. The people who are trying to kill us DO NOT recognize women as equals and the terrorists view this as further signs of the collective weakness of the USA. I’m sure hearing her cackle like a chicken while being sworn in (the way her face contorts makes her look developmentally challenged) surrounded by a bunch of children really instilled fear in the hearts of the terrorists. This blog is a shining example of how the terrorists, their methods and their goals of divide and conquer will prevail over the USA and it’s collective way of life. Your children are going to die at the hands of these terrorists; and you continue to fan the flame. While all of you waste your time pounding meaningless words which will NEVER EVER CHANGE ONE THING, the terrorists are plotting a way to kill you and your children. Your collective ignorance is very scary and I’m glad I did not bring children into this world…..Here is a riddle: Was there more violence and death in IRAQ or California in 2005. The answer is CALIFORNIA!
Blog on dolts while the world is burning around you!!!!!!
January 7th, 2007 at 11:47 amHow big of a temper tantrum do you think the boy king is pitching over this?
Even better that it’s a strong and intelligent woman who is doing this. Seeing how he’s never had one of those in his life before…
January 7th, 2007 at 11:50 amMy question is: Define justification? That is very subjective, to say the least.
I am not sayinig the idea is wrong, I am just curious what the defines justification. Many wouild say there is no justification some would say that if we can prove a “winable solution” it would be justified.
January 7th, 2007 at 11:53 amBlog on dolts while the world is burning around you!!!!!!
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 11:47 am
It must suck to be you. So uniformed, so angry, so confused…
We feel sorry for you Stevie…
January 7th, 2007 at 11:55 amThe terrorists are emboldened by the mid-term elections and an outcome in which they believe was a victory for them. Watching Pelosi being sworn in serves to create more hatred for America and it’s collective way of life. The terrorists DO NOT respect her as a leader; they see her as a weakness of the USA. I’m sure hearing her cackle surrounded by a bunch of children really instilled fear in the hearts of the terrorists. This blog is a shining example of how the terrorists, their methods and their goals of divide and conquer will prevail over the USA and it’s collective way of life. Your children are going to die at the hands of these terrorists; as you continue to fan the flame. While all of you waste your time pounding meaningless words which will NEVER EVER CHANGE ONE THING, the terrorists are plotting a way to kill you and your children. Your collective ignorance is very scary and I’m glad I did not bring children into this world…..Here is a riddle: Was there more violence and death in IRAQ or California in 2005. The answer is CALIFORNIA!
Blog on dolts while the world is burning around you!!!!!!
January 7th, 2007 at 11:58 amShe’s stating that the request for additional troops will have to come with specific goals for these troops and with a specific dollar amount. She’s asking the president to define some parameters for the additional troops. He has already said this would happen and now she is reminding him. What will probably piss GW off is that it will hold him to bench marks and a timetable for these additional troops. That’s something he has not wanted to do.
January 7th, 2007 at 11:59 amComment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 11:47 am
A sad case of a “Child Left Behind”…
January 7th, 2007 at 11:59 amMy question is: Define justification? That is very subjective, to say the least.
Valid question… But I think it’s deeper than that.
I am not sayinig the idea is wrong, I am just curious what the defines justification. Many wouild say there is no justification some would say that if we can prove a “winable solution†it would be justified.
Comment by robert — January 7, 2007 @ 11:53 am
If she blantantly says “No”, then it’s making her the very thing we fired in November – partisan and unflexible.
If instead, she says “Okay, you want the money – you PROVE we should give it to you”, then the burden of proof – and failure – is on the President.
She’s a smart woman. This was the smart thing to say. It says “I’m listening, but make your case valid or I can’t help you.” Excellent strategy once you get past the initial concern.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:00 pmriddle me this, stevie. Are you saying we aren’t paying enough attention to the problems within our own borders? or should we be deploying troops to California?
I’m also glad you didn’t bring children into this world.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:03 pmWe gave Bush a blank check three years ago and he’s just made a mess of historic proportions. Time to cut up the credit card.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:03 pmThere NEVER was a strategy for this war even from the outset! The reason was bogus, as we’ve come to learn the hard way. Lies never succeed! And lied to we were! How is it that over half of the american people as well as the rest of the world did not agree with us going to war in Iraq? Are these americans simply more enlightened than those who voted to give a dictator such unchecked power which was based on lies and deceit? Are these “enablers” that stupid? These very enablers are sitting in congress right now and need to get a HUGE slapdown from the american people who were not only “smarter than they were” but certainly “more enlightened than they were/are”… Everyone who voted to grant this imperial dictator war power needs to read Schlesinger’s book entitled: THE IMPERIAL PRESIDENCY to see how in the years leading up to Nixon’s resignation, the war power was abused by presidents. However, in reading this book, it’s crystal clear that this president has upped that unchecked power to another level and now this country is doomed to failure because of it. The very foundation upon which this once-great country was built has been shattered – illegal wiretapping of it’s citizens, the lifting of habeas corpus, the breaking of the geneva conventions, the overwhelming national debt which is tanking this country economically and will bring about another recession/depression if we continue to allow such capricious and unchecked fiscal accountability (do you balance your checkbook like this? Wouldn’t that be everyone’s dream??). Things are completely out of hand and if we continue to enable this debacle in Iraq it will only become a bigger debacle (two wrongs will NEVER make a right) so let’s send a clear signal and cut this lameduck president off at the knees where it counts and refuse to spend another dime on Iraq.
He never had a valid, legal “reason” for going to war in the first place so he could never have a valid plan – he’s never identified a realistic “enemy” (fighting an idealogy with guns? Huh? What’s missing here? Some normal intelligence on his part for sure)….without a clearly defined “enemy”, there should never be a “war”…..No reason for war…..No enemy defined…..no strategy…..no plan. It’s kaput and this psycho needs to get out of his own way and allow this Congress to “save this country” from itself.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:04 pm“it must suck to be you” is an incorrect assumption based on your ignorance about me and my life. I have a great career, money, the love of my life and I’m not confused about anything. You make another meaningless statement without addressing one point I made in my post. I did not attack you personally and yet that was your tack. I’m sorry you lack the intellect to debate without personal assaults based on your complete ignorance, you’ve proved my point about you. Your posts are a meaningless waste of time which will never serve to change on thing in your life.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:05 pm#6 For the record: Your “fear mongering” tactics (the GOP’s only hope in their pile of ruin and rubble) isn’t going to work on americans any longer! Save your breath and typing time. It’s not about “fear” any longer – but nice try! It’s about “peace” and bringing “hope” once again to this country. You’re totally out of your league here.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:05 pmHey, stevieg,
Damn! That sounds scary. Holy crap, you’d better enlist right away! That’ll show them terrists you mean bidness!!!!
January 7th, 2007 at 12:06 pm” and we have gone into this situation, which is a war without end, which the American people have rejected.â€
Yes, Yes we have. I hate to see it go this way, but so be it.
Bush gets to be Presidential, or Dictatorial. He’s the decider.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:06 pmAt least she is using the right word…ESCALATION..rather than SURGE. While ‘New Way Forward’ is the new term of the day used by pundits and officials, it is no different than ‘Stay The Course’ which Bush claims he never used as a policy. ‘New Way Forward’ was delivered by NeCons after Iraqi Study Group(ISG) report put to death.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:06 pmI’ve been worried about Nancy and Harry being too weak, but I gotta hand it to Pelosi – great start. God, I hope she keeps it up. Somebody keep the consultants away from her.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:06 pmagree with you that it is smart on her part, but what is a valid case? That is my curiosity and concern.
There is no guarantee that surging troops will or will not be the “silver bullet” needed over there.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:07 pmShe refused to say exactly what they would do if Bush ignores them. This tells me either they feel that they really cannot do anything. Or will not. Personally I dont see why they dont pull another card out that says we never declared war and Bush himself said Iraq had “nothing” to do with 911 and Congress ONLY authorized action for a response to 911. That should provide a path for declaring that the president has no grounds to carry on a mission that was not authorized by Congress. And THAT might convince enough republicans that they can not back this president any longer…. and then that may lead to the REAL ultimate weapon…. Bush cant keep us in Iraq if he and the VP are no longer in office.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:08 pmStevieG2000: are you an idiot, or a liar?
Deaths (murders) in Calif, 2005: 2,503
Deaths due to war in Iraq, 2005: min. 25,000
Maybe both.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:10 pmstevieg7000
I really feel sorry for people like you. I used to tell myself that I dont understand why everybody in America doesnt jump onto the PC revolution and start working as computer people …which is better in the long run than regular factory work… I thought hell anybody can learn this stuff because I taught it all to myself and it really isnt that hard…. But people like you have served to educate me that it doesnt matter if some people really just “dont get it” because they are mentally …limited… or if they are forcing themselves to seem like it because of some prejudices they have … in the end some people are just too damn stupid.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:12 pmmotherlowman – I’m taking care of myself and my family. I would not waste my time in the military because you and your ilk are not worth defending. I hope they let the prisoners at gitmo loose in this country.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:13 pmYou are right robert. She is putting the burden of proof on the president and the request will be allowed to be brought onto the floors of congress for debate and not behind closed doors and pushed on the american just for the fear of terrorism.
What is a valid reason for the escalation? What is the timetable for this escalation? What is the dollar amount associated with this escalation? What are the benchmarks to be met?
The President should answer all of these. It’s understood that the situation on the ground will change but an initial plan that needs to be adjusted is far better than no plan at all.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:14 pmThe terrorists are emboldened by the mid-term elections and an outcome in which they believe was a victory for them. Watching Pelosi being sworn in serves to create more hatred for America and it’s collective way of life.
It’s “its”.
Also, outside of the US nobody knows or cares who the Speaker of the House is. Not even the terrorists.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:15 pm‘Watching Pelosi being sworn in serves to create more hatred for America and it’s collective way of life. The people who are trying to kill us DO NOT recognize women as equals and the terrorists view this as further signs of the collective weakness of the USA.’
wow, stevie, you really have a problem with women, doncha? scared of them, hmmm? scared of just about everything, huh bedwetter?
go nancy!
drive the mental midgets nuts! it’s so fun to watch them writhe!
January 7th, 2007 at 12:16 pmArthur Craven – I said VIOLENCE AND DEATH. not death alone.
Pull your head out of your ass and empty the shit it’s full of you illiterate son of a b**ch. Yes that is an insult to the w***re who bore you.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:17 pmStevieg7000 said: I would not waste my time in the military because you and your ilk are not worth defending
Steveieg7000: When did American conservatism degenerate into authoritarian cultism? in case you’re wondering how decent Germans became obedient Nazis, I suggest you take a look in the mirror, you obsequious know-nothing blowhard.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:17 pmi hope they let the prisoners in gitmo loose on you, stevie, you weaselly little chickenhawk.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:17 pmA sad case of a “Child Left Behindâ€â€¦
Comment by New Yorker — January 7, 2007 @ 11:59 am
LOL… truly
January 7th, 2007 at 12:18 pmGW Botch will ignore Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic majority. The only thing Botch will understand is:
IMPEACHMENT
The only thing this will stop Botch is:
IMPEACHMENT
January 7th, 2007 at 12:19 pmHow can the President do anything other than reassure the merican people that this proposed “surge” is well-planned with specific measurable objectives? If it is anything other than a ploy to delay accountability for the didastrous results of this war , while giving the time needed for oil interests to set up their own reward, then this resolute determined wise leader should have no problem. So there.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:19 pmmotherlowman – I’m taking care of myself and my family. I would not waste my time in the military because you and your ilk are not worth defending. I hope they let the prisoners at gitmo loose in this country.
Comment by stevieg7000
Stevie, baby, as someone that is currently “wasting time” in the military (while being able to take care of myself and my family), I think it is an honor to represent the citizens of the US that post here. I rarely agree with them, but I love that there are forums like this.
Hell, I even like to defend people like you that think I am “wasting my time”.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:20 pmGerald Gibson Jr….It seems the only thing you people are really capable of is ignorant assumption about me based on my opinion and personal attacks. How does that make you superior intellectually? I feel sorry for people who work on PC’s….I would be bored beyond tears. I have a degree and part owner of a company which produces entertainment and consumer shows…..it’s like getting paid to play. I took seven weeks of paid vacation last year. Did you get two weeks after two years?
January 7th, 2007 at 12:22 pmit was such a pleasure watching her this morning…
first time in years – except for meeting obama last summer – that i’ve felt so much pride and hope for the country and the people…
keep it up speaker pelosi!
January 7th, 2007 at 12:22 pmThe people who are trying to kill us DO NOT recognize women as equals and the terrorists view this as further signs of the collective weakness of the USA.
So, are you saying that since these backward-ass religious kooks don’t recognize women as equals that we shuldn’t have a woman speaker of the house? Do you think Denny Hastert’s bloated carcass instilled fear in the terrorists?
January 7th, 2007 at 12:22 pmWHAT DOES SHE MEAN, “UNLESS HE JUSTIFIES IT”?
If he’s for the troops, he justified it right there and then!
Get with the program fancy, Nancy-pants. Either you support the troops or ya dont.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:25 pm#20- Gerald…you are making a good point,if the Democrats has to win anything in this they have to go back to the initial ‘authorization of use of force’ that the House and Senate gave to Bush administration; it was linked to 9/11 and war on terror.It was justified on terms meant to stop Saddam WMDS programs which are threat to security of USA.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:25 pmstevieg7000 seems to be drinking his kool-aid from the pin-pricked tip of a Repugnican condom. Keep sucking buddy…
January 7th, 2007 at 12:25 pmi wrote down one thing she said that really moved me…
when schieffer asked her if the dEms would use “the power of the purse”, she answered, they are “ready to use the CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY OF OVERSIGHT.”
YAAAAAAY!!!
January 7th, 2007 at 12:26 pm“it must suck to be you†is an incorrect assumption based on your ignorance about me and my life.
Not at all. You came here and pitched an angry fit (that’s what caps and multiple exclamation points mean).
Not that tough to use logic to figure out that I wouldn’t want to be you – even if you were a rich supermodel with adoring friends and family.
I have a great career, money, the love of my life and I’m not confused about anything.
But you come here and start screaming, making accusations and insulting people. You’re proof that money, a job and a date don’t make you happy. True happiness is what you have when you don’t have those things…
You make another meaningless statement without addressing one point I made in my post.
Not interested. People like you don’t debate. You stand on soapboxes, pontificate and then get mad when challenged. You’re just another whack-a-troll.
I’ll have a rational debate with robert – a conservative – because he is respectful. Try it.
I did not attack you personally and yet that was your tack. I’m sorry you lack the intellect to debate without personal assaults based on your complete ignorance, you’ve proved my point about you. Y
Funny that someone who says I can’t evaluate him because I don’t know him, then turns around and does the very thing he was whining about. LOL
our posts are a meaningless waste of time which will never serve to change on thing in your life.
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 12:05 pm
Funny. I’ve changed everything in my life. I used to be a religious conservative who listened to Bill O’Reilly and voted for Newt Gingrich. And then I found out that it was better to give it all up and start thinking for myself. It’s how I knew you were an angry individual. You announced it.
Want a different response form people? Then. logic dictates that you chould take a different approach next time?
January 7th, 2007 at 12:27 pmagree with you that it is smart on her part, but what is a valid case? That is my curiosity and concern.
Think about how anyone ever justifies anything…
You make sound and logical arguments based on facts.
There is no guarantee that surging troops will or will not be the “silver bullet†needed over there.
Comment by robert — January 7, 2007 @ 12:07 pm
Agreed. It’s why she wants him to make his case.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:28 pmJOIN US IN WASHIGTON D.C. ON 27 JANUARY TO MARCH AGAINST THE WAR. DEMAND THE 110TH CONGRESS TO END THIS BULLSHIT WAR.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:29 pm
Pull your head out of your ass and empty the shit it’s full of you illiterate son of a b**ch. Yes that is an insult to the w***re who bore you.
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 12:17 pm
I told you so…
January 7th, 2007 at 12:31 pmWatching Pelosi being sworn in serves to create more hatred for America and it’s collective way of life. The people who are trying to kill us DO NOT recognize women as equals and the terrorists view this as further signs of the collective weakness of the USA.
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 11:47 am
So are you saying we should give into fear and allow terrorists to determine our politics?
January 7th, 2007 at 12:31 pmI am scared and you all win. You are all completely right and I am completely wrong. Let’s all revel in your absolutism.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:31 pmI’ll have a rational debate with robert – a conservative – because he is respectful. Try it.
Who, me?
January 7th, 2007 at 12:32 pmPlease define what a justification is.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:33 pmPUT YO HOOD UP!
January 7th, 2007 at 12:34 pmunbelievable – what has ANY of your posts changed in the world….nothing!!!!!!!! It’s painful to read some of this.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:35 pm[...] Democratic Congress will likely deny Bush funding for the escalation. [...]
January 7th, 2007 at 12:37 pmWho, me?
Comment by robert — January 7, 2007 @ 12:32 pm
Yes. I might not sugar-coat things, but I am fair. I have no problem admitting that you are conservative, but not a troll, and are respectful (you don’t insult people or yell).
January 7th, 2007 at 12:37 pmJust repeal the Congressional Resolution passed in 2002 that authorized the use of military forces in Iraq: Public Law 107-243- October 16, 2002: Authorization for the use of military force against Iraq. Resolution of 2002.
This Resolution was passed by majority vote in the House and the Senate and can thus be repealed in a similar manner.
Then this illegal and unconstitutional war will be over…
Have a Bright New Year.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:37 pmAshenShard – Our country already did during the mid term elections. Instead of spending time here reaffirming each other, why don’t you pay attention to what the terrorists are saying and doing. My post was partly a paraphrase from the terrorists themselves.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:37 pmI squirm (puke, wretch, heat up, cool down, twitch and generally am repulsed) when I hear “niceties” delivered by anyone at this point about the continuation of a war for oil. I treat people I know are fascists politely in public, but I would not engage them in conversation otherwise.
justification? imagine.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:38 pmComment by stevieg7000
It doesnt take any assumptions to see the evidence of the past 6 years laid out before us on TV and the Internet and then look at people like you obviously with access to the Internet and still saying stupid things like what you are saying. If you didnt blow things out of proportion and didnt try to make it look like an entire religion is Dr. Evil and Al Qeada is their mini-me THEN maybe you would be taken seriously enough to consider your ideas. Instead you present yourself as a wild eyed weirdo that I dont want around my children and dont see as an “intellictual power house”.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:38 pmHere’s the part of Pelosi’s statement that I don’t understand:
“Although the new Congress should not refuse to provide the funds that the troops already in Iraq and Afghanistan need.” …and…
“The American people and the Congress support those troops. We will not abandon them.”
What do the troops already in Iraq and Afghanistan “need” funds for? Aren’t they there to kill and die in an endless war with little point but to save Bush from having to face failure?
What happens if Congress does not “provide the funds that the troops already in Iraq and Afghanistan need”…then does Bush spend the funds already authorized until it’s gone, and tell the troops they’re on their own to get home however they can? I don’t think so…
A tough stance against escalation is good, but leaves us in the same mess that voters objected to in November…continuing a losing war for two more years for the sake of one man’s ego. Where’s the progress in that?
January 7th, 2007 at 12:38 pm“the w***re who bore you”
I’m really trying to figure out an alternative to wofare, which is an archaic term for sorrow, and was originally the opposite of “welfare.” Indeed, the idea of being born from sorrow is rather poetic, but indicates a certain breadth of vision inconsistent with the rest of the post!
January 7th, 2007 at 12:39 pmI rarely agree with them, but I love that there are forums like this.
At this point, Robert, I think “seldom” would be a better word than “rarely.”
Hell, I even like to defend people like you that think I am “wasting my timeâ€.
Comment by robert
We appreciate you, and would never think you’re wasting your time. Thanks!
January 7th, 2007 at 12:40 pmwhy don’t you pay attention to what the terrorists are saying and doing.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:42 pmComment by stevieg7000
You want us to watch the White House then? Either you are delusional or you are getting paid for such a baseless, fear and war propaganda.
unbelievable – what has ANY of your posts changed in the world….nothing!!!!!!!! It’s painful to read some of this.
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 12:35 pm
Today? That’s an awfully unrealistic expectation of anyone. To change the world in 20 minutes…
In the year I’ve been here? I’ve been a voice for change. And incase you didn’t notice, we were instrumental in what happened on November 7th, which will probably – hopefully – be a very positive change for the world.
I also stopped being self-centered by leaving a lucrative architecture career to go teach high school students. This year, I’ve managed to keep a couple of kids from dropping out of high school, have taught my students critical thinking skills, and have made sure there are at least a few kids who will contribute to society by validating them, respecting them and helping them find a direction in life.
You?
January 7th, 2007 at 12:43 pm*
January 7th, 2007 at 12:43 pmsometimes caps and exclamation points denote a happy excitement…
just sayin’…
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#35 katy
January 7th, 2007 at 12:44 pmShe was poised and articulate this morning on FtN.
Added to the interview Russert had with Barack Obama that I saw last night, I have more hopes for the Democrats’ ability to carry us more positively into the future.
unbelievable – what has ANY of your posts changed in the world….nothing!!!!!!!! It’s painful to read some of this.
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 12:35 pm
If our posts here aren’t changing anything and your posts aren’t changing any of us here then tell us all what the hell you’re doing here exactly?
BTW, it’s massively painful to know you’re a citizen of this country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 7th, 2007 at 12:44 pmstevieg7000 – what have ANY of your posts changed in the world….nothing!!!!!!!! It’s painful to read your comments.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:44 pmJuan C – you are right my fears are baseless because it was our government who took down the towers.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:44 pm[...] Think Progress has the Video [...]
January 7th, 2007 at 12:45 pm#54 stevieg7000
So you are saying that by us having a democratic process and electing officials to office, that we are helping the terrorists? Should we go to one party rule instead and give Bush divine right powers in order to deny the terrorists victory?
January 7th, 2007 at 12:45 pm“I’m not confused about anything. You make another meaningless statement without addressing one point I made in my post.”
OK, then, I’ll take on one of these purported points:
“This blog is a shining example of how the terrorists, their methods and their goals of divide and conquer will prevail over the USA and it’s collective way of life.”
How /exactly/ is Thinkprogress helping terrorists win? Please elaborate.
Because otherwise this point reads like bald, emotional opinion – partly because it is completely unsupported by anything else I read there. If I read it unemotionally, it seems to me that you are (I’m sorry) indeed confused about what “free speech” means or how important that principle is to what you (confusingly) term the USAs “collective way of life.”
If I had to guess (which I do, since you present no arguments whatsoever), I’d guess that this “collective way of life” is your own very peculiar vision of what Limbaugh (horrifyingly) termed “the way things ought to be” – an utterly homogenous land where everyone thinks as you do. Some kind of “Happy Days” of the heart, perhaps … but I’m being unfair.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:47 pmHey, katy, Zoo, UnB…folks. How are you?
January 7th, 2007 at 12:48 pmWhat about the hijacking of threads by halbert holmert and the muteness of TP? Perhaps we should lure these trolls to write about 9/11 conspiracy theories…that should get them banned. :)
Comment by stevieg7000 54)
There is only two things the American people need to concentrate on when it comes to terrorists. How to cut off our need for foreign oil and how to protect the INs and OUTs of our country. Then we will have no more weaknesses that any terrorist can use against us. At any time any small group of people can get together and try to pull off a “one off” attack whether they be foreign or domestic. That is what the FBI is for. The FBI cant stop all things but they do a good job over all. If our CIA ever discovers an attempt by a COUNTRY to attack us then we have the military to take care of problems like that. You people just wanted to use the military instead of treating the military like a very special tool that ONLY gets used in self defense.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:49 pmThe terrorists do not differentiate between a liberal or a conservative. Every US citizen who is not a Muslim is an infidel, a yawah. Their doctrine is to seek out new nations, multiple and conquer. When you’re being given the choice to swear allegiance to Allah or death you cannot say they did not warn you. You can label this fear mongering, I call it a healthy understanding of the world in which we live. I suggest reading America Alone…..it details what is already happening in Europe and will eventually be the fall of this nation. History proves ALL nations fall, unfortunately we’re giving them a hand in the process.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:51 pmyou are right my fears are baseless because it was our government who took down the towers.
Comment by stevieg7000
The sad thing is that we probably will never know.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:51 pmBut whenever you talk about terrorists, you have to be aware that there has been 180+ landings, occupations and invasions in US history against sovereign countries. Who are the terrorists, stevie?
Perhaps we should lure these trolls to write about 9/11 conspiracy theories…that should get them banned. :)
Comment by Juan C
Hi Juan, I’m doing well. How about you? I had a lovely evening of troll-baiting last night.
I don’t think luring these moronic trolls into discussing 9/11 conspiracies would do any good — it’s hard for them to keyboard from a puddle of piss under their beds.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:53 pmI’m not a citizen of your country.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:54 pmI don’t support George Bush.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:54 pm*
sometimes caps and exclamation points denote a happy excitement…
just sayin’…
.Comment by katy — January 7, 2007 @ 12:43 pm
Could you just stop?
Skip my freaking posts and stop speaking to or about me.
You are being ridiculous and intentially contentious, and it’s not only childishly old, but it’s past annoying. Just stop it katy. Just stop.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:54 pmI think the USA needs to leave EVERY country it is occupying, many for decades.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:58 pmEvery US citizen who is not a Muslim is an infidel, a yawah. Their doctrine is to seek out new nations, multiple and conquer.
January 7th, 2007 at 12:59 pmComment by stevieg7000
Yes!! Just like gay people…/sarcasm
One question, stevie. Have you ever talked to a Muslim? Or you happen to know all those lies from your TV set? I would encourage you to go to your nearest Mosque and talk with a Muslim, and share your questions with him. Lets see what he says about your opinion on Muslims.
72) Comment by stevieg7000
And the right wingers say we are all a bunch of sinners going to hell. So what is your point? Who cares what backwater pissed off religious people think about America? They think we are weak? WHO CARES! We have nukes so they obviously are just delusional. They think we are all infidels? WHO CARES? We have seperation of church and state and short of putting a bullet through all of our heads that isnt going to change. Well except for you that fear every shadow thinking there might be a muslim there… you guys are so afraid I am not sure you would even defend the seperation of church and state.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:00 pmWhat about the hijacking of threads by halbert holmert and the muteness of TP? Perhaps we should lure these trolls to write about 9/11 conspiracy theories…that should get them banned. :)
Comment by Juan C — January 7, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
I guess I give TP the benefit of the doubt because I don’t know a think about running a premiere blog like this. And I’ve had the spam filter eat my posts on occasion as well.
Hal did suddenly disappear yesterday. :D
January 7th, 2007 at 1:01 pmJuan – I did try to go to a Mosque, they would not let me in.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:01 pmWhat about the hijacking of threads by halbert holmert and the muteness of TP? Perhaps we should lure these trolls to write about 9/11 conspiracy theories…that should get them banned. :)
Comment by Juan C — January 7, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
‘morning juan… ugh… that was especially annoying yesterday/night…
“the muteness of TP” … exactly… unexplainable… certainly curious…
January 7th, 2007 at 1:02 pmas i posted in another thread: maybe the jerk really IS a friend of TPs…
or really CAN blackmail them… or really IS a super-trolling wiz…
i know i didn’t expect to see any of it’s shite this morning… huh…
gloat on, hal… know that i will ignore your pathetic rants…
.
I’m not a citizen of your country.
Comment by stevieg7000
Small miracles….
January 7th, 2007 at 1:02 pmstevieg7000,
At post #13 you stated:
I did not attack you personally and yet that was your tack.
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 12:05 pm
But in post #2 you started the day by saying:
Blog on dolts while the world is burning around you!!!!!!
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 11:47 am
Did you or did you not call all of here “dolts” in your very first posting. You’re another worthless troll or sock-puppet!! Ph*ck you!!!
January 7th, 2007 at 1:02 pmI would encourage you to go to your nearest Mosque and talk with a Muslim, and share your questions with him. Lets see what he says about your opinion on Muslims.
Comment by Juan C
Dont do it stevieg7000! You know those muslims would snatch you away in their mosque and no one would ever hear from you again… just like a teenage horror flick.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:03 pmThat’s not a personal attack, it’s a sweeping generalization which I used to bate people.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:05 pmI did try to go to a Mosque, they would not let me in.
Comment by stevieg7000
Were you frothing at the mouth at the time? Or maybe carrying a pig under each arm? hehehee
January 7th, 2007 at 1:05 pmGerald Gibson Jr – I tried to attend, they would not let me in their Mosque. They had guards at the door and asked me to leave their property.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:06 pmJuan – I did try to go to a Mosque, they would not let me in.
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 1:01 pm
One mosque doesn’t let you in and that defines all Muslims? Silly boy…
I have friends from Iraq who are Muslims. They are now US citizens, pay taxes and are architects in California.
They ignore the ‘kill infidels’ nonsense in their religion just as most Christians ignore the same demand of them.
What you are talking about is a radical extreme group of people. Not all Muslims.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:07 pmNancy read the polls please. 2/3rds of the public are against the WAR. Please stop this insanity. Bu$h is nuts and he doesn’t give a tinkers damn about those soldiers lives. He’s willing to send thousands more to die in his little war. The rest of us are sick and tired of this man and his war and his administration. Impeach this bastard if it takes that to stop the war wagon. Throw Bu$h and his gang under the wheels of his War machine. STOP the WAR NOW!! BRING HOME the TROOPS!!
January 7th, 2007 at 1:08 pmGerald Gibson Jr – no I decided not to bring your wife with me, she was too big to place under my arm.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:08 pmWere you frothing at the mouth at the time? Or maybe carrying a pig under each arm? hehehee
Comment by Gerald Gibson Jr — January 7, 2007 @ 1:05 pm
He was also wearing shorts – women’s shorts… :D
January 7th, 2007 at 1:09 pmI did try to go to a Mosque, they would not let me in.
Comment by stevieg7000
You dont have to go in…you can wait outside.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:09 pmI’m not a citizen of your country.
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 12:54 pm
you are right my fears are baseless because it was our government who took down the towers.
Comment by stevieg7000
Can’t even keep his lies straight.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:09 pmwell, folks, i’m off to a baby shower… another one for the collection…
January 7th, 2007 at 1:10 pmafter last night’s news of nukes and weapons, it hurt to even think about what kind of world this child will live in… but, can’t let it all take away from the joy and happiness of this new family…
later… !!!
#
That’s not a personal attack, it’s a sweeping generalization which I used to bate people.
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 1:05 pm
I was just bored and like to stir the pot because you folks are typically histrionic and easily agitated.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:11 pm#97…We are not histrionic. Project much?
January 7th, 2007 at 1:13 pmI don’t care enough about you to tell you the truth about anything. I’ve accomplished my goal. SUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 7th, 2007 at 1:13 pmsteveig7000,
BUSTED!!!
STFU & DD
January 7th, 2007 at 1:14 pmI was just bored and like to stir the pot because you folks are typically histrionic and easily agitated.
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 1:11 pm
When you folks are destroying our nation and killing people, we have every right to stand up to you.
And you never answered my question about what YOU are doing to make this world a better place.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:16 pm#99,
If your goal was to look massively stupid you did it!! You’re the best! The most stupid of all of the stupid!! Congratulations on that!!!!
Will you ge back later as MA or Exely or sEXXiON?
January 7th, 2007 at 1:17 pmThe majority of this blog was about what I wrote, not the initial post. I GUESS I HAVE TO SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU. IGNORE ME BECAUSE I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT ANY OF THIS I’M JUST HAVING FUN PISSING YOU ALL OFF. DON’T BOTHER RESPONDING, I’M ALREADY GONE. BYE!
January 7th, 2007 at 1:17 pmlater… !!!
Comment by katy
See ya, katy. :)
January 7th, 2007 at 1:17 pmAll you’ve done is feed your ego about trying to fool people. We are willing to help someone who seems confused and when that person says they were only playing it’s not very funny. Either way, you are just saying that you’re a troll.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:18 pmYeah their laying the ground, work floating those trial balloons and adjusting the news stories, telling us what it is we think. Next the polls to test the success of their labor. Simple minded people are easy to mold into the desired political opinion.
Yeah Juan you see it’s a big world and America is a big super power. We get involved from time to time in foreign affairs when they relate to issues that effect us or humanity in general.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:18 pmSame could be said about the communist super powers who think their mission is to establish communism all over the world. That Dictator Chavez for instance. Like our Democrats and left media. They take the simple minded first they are really easy. Then they use force to take out people with opposing views. Those scumbags are the worst. Next they twist the simple minded into all sorts of anti-America conspiracies they know no better than to believe and the Anti-America party here in our country will not do anything to correct the spread of misinformation. They want nothing less than total defeat of their own country. We find these simpletons on forums spouting their Anti-American hatred all the time.
“I was just bored and like to stir the pot because you folks are typically histrionic and easily agitated.”
“Histrionic” is true I suppose of a lot of people here (myself included), but it is also true of your own posts. Perhaps there is a more constructive outlet for assuaging your boredom.
That said, many of us are “histrionic” because we are passionate about what is going on in this country and the world; you, on the other hand, are “histrionic” because you are bored. I leave the weighing of which is “better” up to you.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:19 pm“We get involved from time to time in foreign affairs when they relate to issues that effect us or humanity in general.”
It’s just semantics, then. This is not terrorism because you choose to use different words to describe it.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:22 pmDON’T BOTHER RESPONDING, I’M ALREADY GONE. BYE!
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 1:17 pm
Translation: “You all kicked my butt so badly, I have no response and am going to leave now so I can fool myself into thinking that I won”.
LOL
January 7th, 2007 at 1:22 pmbut, can’t let it all take away from the joy and happiness of this new family…
later… !!!
Comment by katy
Have fun, katy!
January 7th, 2007 at 1:24 pmRobert, some of us lefties grew up in military families like mine (USMC). We lost men in WWII, Korea, and Vietnam. Thank you for adding your perspective here, and for the brave work you do. Please disregard the rank lies you hear broadcast 24/7 about us not honoring troops, for a more honest view of the debate.
We just wish you were really defending us, say in Afghanistan, rather than being forced by a very foolish man to assist Al Qaeda by breaking our military and treasury. This delusional assault has wounded our nation and Iraq so grievously, while letting our true enemy escape. Bush is the worst we’ve ever had, accerating the fall of the US from the lofty position it’s occupied since the (real) Axis was defeated.
If you’re curious, say hello to my cousin Jimmy, a conservative who began writing (admittedly bad but patriotic) poems in Vietnam, and eventually got around to the forbidden question. His postumous Bronze Star was earned 8 days before his 14 month tour ended. His experience caused me to look deeper into the cause of these things, beneath the foamy propaganda, and that’s what made me a progressive.
http://thewall-usa.com/literary/rice.htm
January 7th, 2007 at 1:24 pmSince the insurgency will make extracting oil very difficult, the oil companies will try slant-drilling from Kuwait. It would give them access, and they could by-pass paying the Iraqi government for it. KBR started this whole mess, remember, when they helped Kuwaitis gain access to the oil fields, and Saddam was assured we wouldn’t interfere if he invaded Kuwait in retaliation.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:25 pmUnbelievable-
Translation: “You all kicked my butt so badly, I have no response and am going to leave now so I can fool myself into thinking that I wonâ€.
You don’t even get it when I spell it out for You. WIN???? I did not realize this was a contest. What are the prizes? I’m just having fun with you. There is no winners or losers here, just a bunch of meaningless blather, including what I’ve posted.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:29 pmComment by RudyTahuti
Cool. Well said.
Welcome.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:30 pmWe get involved from time to time in foreign affairs when they relate to issues that effect us or humanity in general.
Comment by joeslogic
Try almost every year since the ending of US civil war.
That Dictator Chavez for instance.
Whenever he invades a country to install “communism” (the right word for Venezuela´s government is a national populism, communism is yet an experiment to be tried) I would condemn him like he should. The only country in this world invading another country right now for installing a government is the US.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:30 pmThose scumbags are the worst.
Yeah, cuz it´s not like they are killing children, right?
There is no winners or losers here, just a bunch of meaningless blather, including what I’ve posted.
Comment by stevieg7000
Automatic loss for stevieg — ya’ll are never gone when you say you are.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:31 pmyou folks are typically histrionic and easily agitated.
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 1:11 pm
Blog on dolts while the world is burning around you!!!!!!
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 11:47 am
Pot. Kettle.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:32 pmI’m making fun of ALL of you! I guess I needed to spell it out for you dolts!
January 7th, 2007 at 1:33 pmZooey – exactly!!!!!!!!!!!! So I don’t need to spell it out for you.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:34 pmoh – before i go -
January 7th, 2007 at 1:34 pmmr. hamper, that was a most excellent, much needed belly laugh last night… thanks!
Zooey
What did I lose? This is not a contest! There are no prizes!
January 7th, 2007 at 1:35 pmI haven’t been reading TP comments all that long, but I’d rank stevieg as the dumbest, most hateful and frustrated troll yet to clog these threads.
Some commenters post facts, and some back them up with references. Some post opinions, we all have a right to those.
But what’s the deal with unprovable claims of personal wealth, paid vacations, etc? Save that for someone who’ll believe it!
Another troll (or the same troll under another name?) that haunted TP recently dwelt on making $7 million in the last year, or some such BS, but I have yet to see any progressive commenter make such claims of personal wealth as evidence of correctness of his/her views. This must be an extremist wingnut thing, but your possessions don’t make you right in my book.
Thanks to people who bailed him out of his troubles, our president is a multimillionaire…and he’s been wrong about damned near everything!
January 7th, 2007 at 1:35 pmThere is no winners or losers here, just a bunch of meaningless blather, including what I’ve posted.
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 1:29 pm
So you lied when you said you were leaving?
Liars have no credibility.
If you want a real dialog, then change your screen name and start over.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:35 pmThis is priceless! I tell you what I’m doing and you still post responses to my posts. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
January 7th, 2007 at 1:36 pm“There is no winners or losers here, just a bunch of meaningless blather, including what I’ve posted.”
Actually, you lost according to your own definitions of success. You see, no one here actually got angry with you: In fact, they used your silly arguments to illustrate why their views on Iraq made sense, so you just ended up justifying their own interests. As your primary goal was to distract and offend, you actually ended up doing completely the opposite: You made liberals feel good about themselves. What’s more, you were such a poor troll, you couldn’t last more than a few minutes before your story became both nonsensical and internally contradictive, and virtually no one believed it after more than a few posts… Google up some of the guides as to how to effectively troll online, as I suggest you sorely need to brush up on techniques: this was a really sad effort. And coming back when you said you were gone just shows you aren’t in control at all, which further ruins your ability to offend others. This trolling would only gets 2 out of 5 I’m afraid. Must try harder.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:38 pm“I’m making fun of ALL of you! I guess I needed to spell it out for you dolts!”
No, Stevie: at this point you are merely repeating yourself. It’s difficult to believe that what you are doing now is any less boring for you than whatever you were doing before. I can only assume that you are easily amused, since I for one merely find your e-shouting faintly pathetic, and not amusing at all.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:40 pmI’m making fun of ALL of you! I guess I needed to spell it out for you dolts!
Comment by stevieg7000
Shorter Stevie:”I’m crushing your heads!”
Thanks, Katy. I’ve finally scrubbed the little brown spots off . . .
January 7th, 2007 at 1:40 pmWhat did I lose? This is not a contest! There are no prizes!
Comment by stevieg7000
Are we talking about the Iraq war or what?
January 7th, 2007 at 1:41 pmUnbelievable-
Translation: “You all kicked my butt so badly, I have no response and am going to leave now so I can fool myself into thinking that I wonâ€.
You don’t even get it when I spell it out for You. WIN???? I did not realize this was a contest. What are the prizes? I’m just having fun with you. There is no winners or losers here, just a bunch of meaningless blather, including what I’ve posted.
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 1:29 pm
It only took 90 minutes to drive you off this site (although you won’t leave) and then you changed the goal from debate to wasting the time of those people here who care about the issues we face as we struggle through our daily lives. How DARE you WASTE MY TIME!
This makes you more useless than a troll or sick-puppet (sic). You don’t deserve to live in this country if you can be so flippant and an a$$wipe about issues that matter while our citizens die everyday to defend your right to WASTE TIME and “have fun” over issues that matter!!!!!
Pray for your soul and those who are dying for your right to be a useless pile of macaca sewage!!!
STFU & DD!!!
January 7th, 2007 at 1:42 pmJoe’s logic would appear to uncategorically state that if Joe is a citizen of the country that is doing the plundering, said plundering must therefore be A-OK.
Manifest destiny.
Some “logic”!
January 7th, 2007 at 1:42 pmAmerica’s Morning –
Thank you for being you!
January 7th, 2007 at 1:43 pmI preduct that Madam Speaker will soon become Madam President. That’s my prognostication for 2007!
This is how it will occur: First Cheney will be subpoenaed to testify in his underling, Scoot, The Libbey’s case soon. Either he will refuse to testify as he’s stated publicly which will be grounds for his impeachment or he will testify and perjure himself (see handwritten notation in memo to Scooter regarding “going after” Joe Wilson, etc.) and lie about the presssure he put on Scooter or he will tell the truth because there is prima facie evidence supporting his charge to his underling to get Joe Wilson….Either way, Cheney’s “toast”. One down….either through impeachment or resignation.
Then comes the Big Kahona – with Cheney gone and the polls reflecting 30% overall or less (much, much less on his war polls), coupled with all of the ongoing investigations which will go up the chain of command to Bush himself (”The buck stops here!”)….and adios to Dubya via impeachment or forced resignation.
Enter Nancy Pelosi – to whom the Presidency would descend automatically. From what she’s already accomplished in her two days at the helm as Speaker along with her multitude of plans to “overhaul” this arm of the government and bring about accountability and investigations into criminal behavior, I’d suggest that Nancy would be one hellova president and could stand up to any male president we’ve ever had.
I say….Gooooooooo Nancy! The American people are backing you 100% and will stand behind you and support you. You’ve got what it takes to bring this administration to their knees and will do it with class, finesse, and aplomb….something we haven’t seen in Washington in a very, very long time.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:46 pmAmerica’s Morning –
dixie blood sounds pretty angry to me.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:46 pmZooey
What did I lose? This is not a contest! There are no prizes!
Comment by stevieg7000
You lost face, my dear — your dignity — your honor — your pride, if you will. You said you were gone, but you were lurking — because you really do want to “win.” What other reason is there for you to be here?
I dare you not to respond to this comment — and stay gone. I dare you!
January 7th, 2007 at 1:48 pmI’m not a citizen of your country.
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 12:54 pm
you are right my fears are baseless because it was our government who took down the towers.
Comment by stevieg7000
Please explain. Are you an American, or not?
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January 7th, 2007 at 1:48 pmPoor Steevie and the rest of the crying rethugs out there – your “gig” is soooo over and you need to crawl back into your dens of iniquity and begin licking your wounds. It’s a shame that most who are deluded can never heal themselves nor see the light but oh….well….not our problemo any longer, is it? What’s worse are the sycophantic Republican robots who litter these threads with their drivel and detritus and have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING noteworthy, credible or remotely intelligent to contribute…tsk.tsk.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:49 pmGlenn Becker
sticks and stones might break my bones and names will never harm me.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:49 pm#133,
Don’t worry about me. Pray for your own useless self!!!
January 7th, 2007 at 1:50 pmTrolls need to post their blather on their sycophantic blogs and realize that they have nothing credible to contribute on these blogs. Angry? You bet we who knew that this war was the single worst thing this country could have ever done? Absolutely, we’re angy! And we hold ill-informed, unenlightened drones like you responsible for destroying this country from within.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:52 pmSheesh! I never thought I’d miss halbert…
January 7th, 2007 at 1:52 pmIt’s clear that SteeveG is lying about his citizen status and is nothing more than an infantile, illiterate sycophantic troll who has nothing better to do on a Sunday afternoon then to pretend he has a real life and any semblance of intelligence. Don’t feed the trolls and they’ll realize that they have nothing to contribute except detritus and exit stage left.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:54 pmveritas
Apparently I struck enough of a nerve in you to respond; doing so validates me. Only you are too stupid to understand such a simple concept. It what I post means nothing, is stupid, ignorant or otherwise, then no sane, competent person would even bother to respond. You defined yourselves not me and I do not care what your opinion is of me; it affects me not.
January 7th, 2007 at 1:54 pmThat’s not a personal attack, it’s a sweeping generalization which I used to bate people.
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 1:05 pm
Well, I must say that, when it comes to “bating” people, you skill is unsurpassed. Were the art and craft of “bating” people a guild, why, you would most certainly be a Master.
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January 7th, 2007 at 1:59 pmI was having so much fun, I lost track of time. I’ll leave you with this thought: maybe the hokey pokey is what it’s all about.
TTFN
January 7th, 2007 at 2:00 pmWatching Pelosi being sworn in serves to create more hatred for America and it’s collective way of life. The people who are trying to kill us DO NOT recognize women as equals and the terrorists view this as further signs of the collective weakness of the USA.
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 11:47 am
Hate women, Stevie? Are you suggesting that the U.S., for purely strategic reasons, should not have high-ranking female politicians lest it offend Islamic radicals? Isn’t that caving into the radicals and agreeing to live THEIR way of life? Let me guess, Stevie, you also favor torture. Just like them. You also favor governments spying on its citizens and locking them up without legal recourse. Just like them. Right, Stevie?
Get lost, freak. This country will be better off without bedwetting fascist wannabes like you.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:01 pmChris Tucker
Thank you! I mean that. I’m not being goofy. It is a guild, it’s called being a lawyer.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:02 pm“Apparently I struck enough of a nerve in you to respond; doing so validates me. Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 1:54 pm”
So negative re-enforcement on a blog, validates you? So is that like when the US destroyed Hitler, it was just us *validating* him? What a fool and an idiot you are.
“Only you are too stupid to understand such a simple concept. Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 1:54 pm”
Validating someone involves the positive re-enforcement that they have in fact acted in a competent manner. Who’s stupid again? The idiot that thinks criticism is validation, or the one that gives that criticism? Stupid indeed you are paduan.
“It what I post means nothing, is stupid, ignorant or otherwise, then no sane, competent person would even bother to respond. Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 1:54 pm”
No sane, competent person would post incompetent stupid comments like yours. Pointing out someone is incompetent, isn’t validating them, it invalidates them. But someone as stupid as yourself wouldn’t know that. duuuuhhhhhh!!
“You defined yourselves not me and I do not care what your opinion is of me; it affects me not. Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 1:54 pm”
The person who makes stupid comments like yours, defines themselves. Those that are *kind* enough to point out what a fool you are, merely help you to see your own *definition*. But a stupid person is always too stupid, to understand such matters of the conscious mind.
You are a fool, and an idiot.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:07 pmChris Tucker
Thank you very much and I mean that, I’m not being goofy. There is actually a guild, it’s called being an attorney.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:10 pmI’m wondering if the current phenomenon of a “Troll du Jour” is members of a bible school frat house. Part of some sidewalk psychotherapy exercise to help them release tension, sexual and testosteronal stess, and general feelings of guilt and bitternes for having supported and believed such bull.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:10 pmChris Tucker Thank you! I mean that. I’m not being goofy. It is a guild, it’s called being a lawyer. Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 2:02 pm
Yeah, you and mighty aphrodite – or should I say, you and yourself, the wanna-be attorneys. You’re both too stupid, and incompetent to be an attorney. Maybe the housekeeper or buttwiper for an attorney.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:15 pmStevie,
January 7th, 2007 at 2:15 pmPlease just relax and leave everyone alone. Your well thought out words do not equate to intelligent thought. As I read through the comments, I did not agree with you but respected that you could rationally discuss your opinion. Then I read further and lost all respect that I had for you as you lowered yourself to personal attacks and name-calling, the very things you so intelligently shunned. I am a teacher and I work very hard to teach my 5th graders the difference between attacking an argument and attacking a person. You clearly do not understand this distinction and that is why I truly feel sorry for you. Your comprehension of discourse is limited to the level of about 5th grade. The posts on this and other sites may not always possess the vocabulary you are able to employ, and you are correct that mere words will likely not change the world, but I agree with what this site represents. This is a forum for people to discuss and inspire change. It is a shining example of the freedoms that you claim terrorists are plotting to take away. Apparently, that would not bother you if it were the case because you’re not even willing to fight for a war you actually believe in while thousands of are sacrificed to protect the bubble you live in.
Apparently I struck enough of a nerve in you to respond; doing so validates me.
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 1:54 pm
This sort of semantic game is a clear sign that panty waist Stevie has nothing to say, nothing at all, except ignorance, lies, and misdirected anger.
Folks, this is what a deadender in its last throes looks like, and it ain’t pretty.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:16 pmPlease ignore the troll stevieg7000, he has more sh*t than an overfowing septic tank.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:16 pmdoing so validates me
stevieg7000,
If you just wanted to be validated then you could have gone to Iraq and kept you ph*cking mouth shut around here. Couldn’t you? But, you haven’t and won’t go to Iraq because you are another useless waste of time, energy and space.
Wanna have “fun?” Go to Iraq!! Shout fire in a mess tent. It will “validate you” a$$wipe!!!
January 7th, 2007 at 2:17 pmVerbalkint -
I LOVE women. I’m just not nieve enough to believe they are my equal. Men and women are not equal, they are very different and not one better than the other; just different. I do favor torture. The government has been spying on us since the dawn of government. I don’t wet the bed, although I do sleep like a baby in my Slect Comfort Extended Queen as heard on Paul Harvey; I like the Bose wave radio/cd player as well.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:21 pmcalifornia teacher
Our school systems are the worst of all industrialized nations.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:25 pmThank you! I mean that. I’m not being goofy. It is a guild, it’s called being a lawyer.
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 2:02 pm
What’s with illiterate trolls claiming to be lawyers?
Even if you are right Stevie and you disrupted one thread out of hundreds – if that makes you feel good about something, then you clearly don’t feel very good about much. That makes you sad and pathetic.
You should leave. It’s best to go before you dig the hole much deeper.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:25 pmRudyTahuti, thanks for the post and the link. As I have OOD (Officer of the Day) today, I will make sure to look at it.
I do not believe the lies that all Liberals/Progressives/Democrats hate the military. I know that the vast majority of US citizens support the Military, even if they oppose the actions we are involved in. However, it is good to be reasured by people like yourself, Zooey, unbelievable, and others here.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:25 pmI LOVE women.
Comment by steveng7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 2:21 pm
UNREQUITED, no doubt.
I shouldn’t slander people with legitimate medical problems by referring to your sort of trash as bedwetters. So let’s leave it at panty waist for the time being.
LOOK OUT, STEVIE!!! TERRORISTS HAVE BEEN SPOTTED ON YOUR FRONT LAWN!!! RUN FOR THE SAFE ROOM!!!
January 7th, 2007 at 2:26 pmI’m just not nieve enough to believe they are my equal.
Comment by steveng7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 2:21 pm
Then you know that we are your superiors.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:28 pmWhere is Cindy “goddamn she’s ugly” Sheehan when you need her. It is obvious that Pelosi is back pedalling under pressure from the Clintonistas, and is now looking for a way to flip-flop on her anti-war stand. Looks like the Clintonistas finally have Pelosi under wraps.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:29 pmcalifornia teacher
Our school systems are the worst of all industrialized nations.
Comment by steveng7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 2:25 pm
I thought is was stevieg7000 not steveng7000. Are the meds kicking? I hope so!!
January 7th, 2007 at 2:31 pmI don’t live in a bubble. The USA is wrought with violence, murder, corporate plundering where the President of the United states pardons the biggest thief in the history of our country; Mark Rich. Women and children are in danger here EVERYDAY of their lives of being kidnapped, raped and killed. Do you pay attention to what’s going on in this country?
January 7th, 2007 at 2:32 pmI LOVE women.
Comment by steveng7000
He forgot to add
despite the large number of Restraining Orders
January 7th, 2007 at 2:33 pm“nieve” is spelled “naive.” A lawyer wouldn’t know this???
January 7th, 2007 at 2:33 pmThen you know that we are your superiors.
Comment by unbelievable — January 7, 2007 @ 2:28 pm
Exactly!!!
January 7th, 2007 at 2:34 pmComment by Jason M. Hendler
Cuba.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:34 pmCindy Sheehan does not have to be beautiful in order to love her country. George Bush is no George Clooney.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:36 pmWhere is Cindy “goddamn she’s ugly†Sheehan when you need her.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
We need to make sure that only the children of attractive women get blown up.
**eyes rolling**
Here’s one for you Jason: SPEAKER PELOSI!!!!
Heh.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:39 pmWhere is Cindy “goddamn she’s ugly†Sheehan when you need her. It is obvious that Pelosi is back pedalling under pressure from the Clintonistas, and is now looking for a way to flip-flop on her anti-war stand. Looks like the Clintonistas finally have Pelosi under wraps.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — January 7, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
You still pitching a temper tantrum about us taking control of the House and Senate on November 7th?
I realize the grieving process can be long, but shouldn’t you be past the anger phase by now?
The woman has been on the job for a couple of days (which I think is more than the 109th Congress worked all year). Give her a freaking break already. Sheesh.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:39 pm“George Bush is no George Clooney. Comment by Republicans Are The Fear And Smear Party — January 7, 2007 @ 2:36 pm”
Neither is Jason M. Hendler, of that you can be sure. Isn’t he the dweeb with Aspergers? That disease leaves the brain so disabled, that the victim can’t place themselves in the shoes of others. So he can’t see that he’s uglier than any war protester. He’s just another sick, disturbed little turd – like steviegonadless.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:40 pm“nieve†is spelled “naive.†A lawyer wouldn’t know this???
Comment by Republicans Are The Fear And Smear Party — January 7, 2007 @ 2:33 pm
You’d think so….
January 7th, 2007 at 2:40 pmIt’s ridiculous to advance the notion that somehow the Dems in power will change anything for the common man.
Pelosi is a millionare who married her money and does not care about anything but having power.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:40 pmI never said I was a lawyer, I work in the entertainment business as priviously stated. I was simply pointing out that that is how lawyers typically make their living.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:42 pmThis is not a forum on spelling or grammar. Because I could spend my entire time here correcting both.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:43 pm#177,
Prove it!!! You can’t! You’re a useless loud mouth!!
I dare you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 7th, 2007 at 2:46 pmAnd since you’re clearly a product of a superior education system, please inform us all of how we may improve.
It’s easy to talk the talk but what the hell have you done for the world besides post an excess of meaningless words on this blog? (In case you’re not able to tell, this is what we call a rhetorical question. It does not actually seek an answer and we would all prefer if you did not supply one. We’re tired of hearing about you.)
January 7th, 2007 at 2:47 pmJason_M._Hendler_is_a_pu$$y
although I am generally averaged sized down there, I do have gonads that are very large. Are you fixated on all men’s genitalia or just mine.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:48 pmHello Hendler, now shut up you twit. Thanks Robert for defending this country and for understanding all have a right to say what they want. Hell, some of us actually make sense.
#177 Your argument is a strawman that shows nothing. Name the last time there was a president that wasn’t a millionare. To say she cares nothing about anything but power and then not backing it up is the same a me saying GW snorts coke and doesn’t care where he buys it.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:48 pmThis is not a forum on spelling or grammar. Because I could spend my entire time here correcting both.
Comment by steveng7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
Considering you have a comprehension of neither, I doubt it.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:49 pmCindy Sheehan: I could care less what she looks like.
Ok, stevie, the entertainment guru, doesn’t your client (read stripper wife) need a ride to a bachelor party or frat house or something? Go do something useful, like swallowing your head.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:49 pm[...] 7 Jan 2007 Cuz, you know…Democrats are just like Republicans Posted by delawareliberal under Uncategorized Think Progress reports that this morning onCBS’s Face the Nation, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) announced that Congress may refuse to authorize funding for an escalation of U.S. forces to Iraq if President Bush cannot justify the strategy. [...]
January 7th, 2007 at 2:51 pmNeither is Jason M. Hendler, of that you can be sure. Isn’t he the dweeb with Aspergers? That disease leaves the brain so disabled, that the victim can’t place themselves in the shoes of others.
Comment by Jason_M._Hendler_is_a_pu$$y
Maybe you didn’t intend to do so, but I am offended by your comment. I suggest you do some research. Asperger’s Syndrome is a form of high-functioning autism. I have a son with autism, which doesn’t even rise to the level of Asperger’s, and yet he is able to empathize with others to a greater degree than Hendler.
Hendler claims to have Asperger’s, and it’s possible he does. He needs no defense from me, and I am not offering any. Hendler’s an ass because he enjoys it.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:52 pmWhen the Speakette says she wants GWB to “justify the strategy”, is she asking for guarantees? It hard to respect the Speakette who seems to hope the military strategy is another abject failure.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:53 pmhellinabucket, glad to do it!! Under Dems, Reps, Dem Controlled Congress or Rep controlled Congress. Thanks for the support!
January 7th, 2007 at 2:53 pm“It’s ridiculous to advance the notion that somehow the Dems in power will change anything for the common man. Comment by steveng7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 2:40 pm”
Yeah, so ridiculous that, they’re passing minimum wage increases as a priority. What a dumba$$ you are.
“Pelosi is a millionare who married her money and does not care about anything but having power. Comment by steveng7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 2:40 pm”
It must pain you, that you didn’t marry him before she got there? Jealous, stupid, Loser.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:55 pm“When the Speakette says she wants GWB to “justify the strategyâ€, is she asking for guarantees? It hard to respect the Speakette who seems to hope the military strategy is another abject failure. Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 7, 2007 @ 2:53 pm”
And right on cue, steveng changes his name to his alter ego. The ever disrespectful and fully incompetent wanna-be lawyer and inhouse counsel to his/her own sphincter. It seems that your only hope is that Pelosi and by extension america is an abject failure so you can gloat. Were you always such a transparent and stupid prick, or did you have to work at it to achieve this level of self delusion and aggrandizement?
January 7th, 2007 at 2:59 pmHalbert, don’t hold back. Tell us what you really think. You’re still mad at Bill Clinton aren’t you? It festers like a boil. You haven’t been able to let the bj thing go. Look how much time you’ve wasted since then. It’s a new century. Go outside and smell the air. Take up painting. Do something good for yourself man and let it go.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:03 pmComment by mighty aphrodite
Oh, look; Lawyerette finally took off her Stevie7000 strap-on.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:04 pmsteveng_is_a_desperate_loser_pu$$y
“america is an abject failure so you can gloat.”
No that was the dems strategy, not mine. I don’t remember ever using the same platform, rhetoric as the terrorists; again that would be the democrats.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:04 pmAnd right on cue, steveng changes his name to his alter ego. The ever disrespectful and fully incompetent wanna-be lawyer and inhouse counsel to his/her own sphincter. It seems that your only hope is that Pelosi and by extension america is an abject failure so you can gloat. Were you always such a transparent and stupid prick, or did you have to work at it to achieve this level of self delusion and aggrandizement?
Comment by steveng_is_a_desperate_loser_pu$$y — January 7, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
Right on point and very funny!!
Hi MA,
Pustules…
My very worst!!
PS Tell another dead child joke!!!
January 7th, 2007 at 3:04 pmrobert
I’m not an “entertainment guru” and my wife is not a stripper. She gets all of her money by sleepiing with me.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:07 pmHey, Halbert, still quoting LaRouche? Funny thing for a supposed prosecutor constantly posting the thoughts of a convicted felon.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:07 pmI don’t remember ever using the same platform, rhetoric as the terrorists; again that would be the democrats.
Comment by steveng7000
Republicans just sell them weapons, rhetoric be damned.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:10 pmYes, I’ve always been transparent and a prick!
January 7th, 2007 at 3:10 pmJust repeal the Congressional Resolution passed in 2002 that authorized the use of military forces in Iraq: Public Law 107-243- October 16, 2002: Authorization for the use of military force against Iraq. Resolution of 2002.
This Resolution was passed by majority vote in the House and the Senate and can thus be repealed in a similar manner.
Then this illegal and unconstitutional war will be over…
Have a Bright New Year.
Comment by james k. sayre — January 7, 2007 @ 12:37 pm
Amen.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:10 pmRealityCheck
Yes exactly, like when Clinton allowed missile launching technology to be sold to N. Korea.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:15 pmYes, I’ve always been transparent and a prick!
Comment by steveng7000
And it’s a safe bet your wife feels the same way.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:16 pmShe gets all of her money by sleepiing with me.
Comment by steveng7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 3:07 pm
So she’s a prostitute then?
January 7th, 2007 at 3:17 pm#206,
And a cheap one too!!!
January 7th, 2007 at 3:19 pmStevieg, this is still a democracy. You talk about people’s blogging not changing anything, yet you find the need to post your hypocritical babble rhetoric like every 2 minutes here.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:20 pmPart of living in a democracy means people are free to express their political opinons with and to each other.
Your just alot of reactionary anger, without much logic.
You think joining the military is a “waste of time”.
You hope terrorism increases inside the US.
You want terrorists to dictate all our policies.
You make no sense man, no sense at all.
Yes exactly, like when Clinton allowed missile launching technology to be sold to N. Korea.
Comment by steveng7000
And like when Reagan sold weapons to both Saddam and Iraq, lying to the American people by telling them, “We don’t deal with terrorists” while they were dealing with terrorists!
January 7th, 2007 at 3:20 pmhttp://video.google.com/ videopla…ideos+from+iraq
We lost this war from the beginning. There was no intent on winning hearts and minds.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:21 pmrobert
I’m not an “entertainment guru†and my wife is not a stripper. She gets all of her money by sleepiing with me.
Comment by steveng7000
Damn, my wife sleeps with me for free!!
January 7th, 2007 at 3:21 pmFunny thing for a supposed prosecutor constantly posting the thoughts of a convicted felon.
Comment by Barfly — January 7, 2007 @ 3:07 pm
Halitosis also claims to be an attorney?
What is MA getting overtime pay for each additional personality?
January 7th, 2007 at 3:22 pmsteveng_is_a_desperate_loser_pu$$y
Passing a new minimum wage will not help the average american because the average american does NOT make minimum wage, not even close. This isn’t a credible issue, it’s fear mongering by the left. I’ll bet not ONE of your friends makes minimum wage unless their a high school student.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:22 pmhttp://video.google.com/ videopla…ideos+from+iraq
January 7th, 2007 at 3:23 pmyes exactly, she is a prostitute. Just like all women who don’t have jobs and live off their husbands’ income.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:24 pmJanuary 7th, 2007 at 3:25 pm
And a cheap one too!!!
Comment by dixie blood — January 7, 2007 @ 3:19 pm
Well, he said he pays her to sleep with him…
Explains why men with small winkies vote Republican. Money is the only way they can ever get laid…
January 7th, 2007 at 3:25 pmrobert
You wife doesn’t sleep with you for free, you just don’t know the game your playing.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:26 pmHalitosis also claims to be an attorney?
Yeah, he was going on about being a prosecutor from Georgia – who can’t seem to keep himself from posting Lyndon LaRouche columns!
January 7th, 2007 at 3:27 pmJust like all women who don’t have jobs and live off their husbands’ income.
Comment by steveng7000
Don’t bother asking me for money, anymore. My cookie jar is officially off-limits!
January 7th, 2007 at 3:31 pmhappy halbert holmert
Is that you, Happy guy? I’d know those all caps anywhere . . .
January 7th, 2007 at 3:33 pmhappy halbert holmert
Hillary will make a great president! Look how she stood up to her philandering husband as he made a fool of her publicly. I think having a crooked lawyer with a rapist husband is apropo for this great land.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:33 pmyes exactly, she is a prostitute. Just like all women who don’t have jobs and live off their husbands’ income.
Comment by steveng7000
Now, I take issue with this. My wife does not work OUTSIDE OF THE HOME. She does, however work her pretty a$$ off taking care of OUR 3 kids and going to school full time. The last thing in the world I would equate her to is a prostitute. Maybe because I actually have RESPECT for her. You are a sorry excuse for a man if that is how you view women.
I’ll let you in on a secret: If that is all the respect you have for your wife, then trust me, she is getting “respected” by someone else.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:33 pmComment by happy halbert holmert — January 7, 2007 @ 3:28 pm
I’m “happy” you’re “happy” and hope you will take 2 more blue ones, three more red ones and 1 big white one. Also, please let your date out of your trunk. She deserves to live damn it!!
January 7th, 2007 at 3:35 pmNew here, but my advice would be not to feed trolls. Firstly, nobody is honestly as stupid as the person claiming that the terrorists believe the midterm elections were a victory for them. So the poster is either engaging in parody, or is an attention whore, desperately seeking even the negative rebukes that he/she is now being treated to, much the same way that there are people in this world who actually prefer to be in abusive relationships because they have a bizarre need to seek attention through physical/mental abuse. So just don’t respond. The arguments these folks offer are patently stupid on their face and don’t require rebuttal.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:35 pmI’ll bet not ONE of your friends makes minimum wage unless their a high school student.
Comment by steveng7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
So you also are incapable of caring about people unless you know them personally?
Just because I had a family who supported me and encouraged me to go to college so I wouldn’t make minimum wage doesn’t mean everyone else had or has that.
Though, even with my degrees, I am still not paid very well as a high school teacher. You just won’t hear me complain about my salary in and of itself because I am more interested in a meaningful job. Which I have. But not everyone else does.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:37 pmTP, can you please thow the trash (steveng7000
) out. It’s really starting to stink the place up.
stevie, baby, come on out to Camp Lejeune and tell me my wife is a prostitute. You’ll leave here in a body cast!
January 7th, 2007 at 3:38 pmsteveng7000’s mom
My mom supported herself and 3 children without a handout from the government or welfare. My father, who suffered from PTSD shot himself in the head and left us nothing. Coincidently, he was a democrat. Maybe the rest of you liberal wackos will take his lead and save the terrorists on bullets.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:39 pmComment by happy halbert holmert — January 7, 2007 @ 3:32 pm
You will be gone for that one. It might not happen right away, but you will be gone.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:39 pmYeah, he was going on about being a prosecutor from Georgia – who can’t seem to keep himself from posting Lyndon LaRouche columns!
Comment by Barfly — January 7, 2007 @ 3:27 pm
No one with a Masters degree could pass the LSAT or MCAT or GRE with those sort of reasoning and/or grammar skills. Not possible.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:40 pmyes exactly, she is a prostitute. Just like all women who don’t have jobs and live off their husbands’ income.
Comment by steveng7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 3:24 pm
I think you’re trying to insult the women here. Problem is – we all have careers.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:42 pmsteve davis
“nobody is honestly as stupid as the person claiming that the terrorists believe the midterm elections were a victory for them.”
That’s not accurate, the number two in command of Al Queda made the statement as an admonishment to our country and a warning.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:43 pm“My father, who suffered from PTSD shot himself in the head and left us nothing. Coincidently, he was a democrat.”
Whoa, can someone say…irrational complex?
January 7th, 2007 at 3:44 pmSO WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU GOT LAID SMEGMA BREATH
LICKING YOUR OWN FINGERS DOES NOT COUNT
Comment by happy halbert holmert — January 7, 2007 @ 3:32 pm
I’m a woman. Women get laid whenever they want. Unless they look like you, and I, fortunately, do not.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:44 pmunbelievable
“we all have careers”
That’s why the children of this country of out of control, because parents abandon their children to chase the mighty dollar and I get to pay for your irresponsibility so you can drive a new car.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:46 pmI’ll let you in on a secret: If that is all the respect you have for your wife, then trust me, she is getting “respected†by someone else.
Comment by robert — January 7, 2007 @ 3:33 pm
robert, you’re progressive in the making yet… :)
January 7th, 2007 at 3:48 pmMy mom supported herself and 3 children without a handout from the government or welfare. My father, who suffered from PTSD shot himself in the head and left us nothing.
This is just more bologna. You’ve already been caught lying twice. And those were self-serving lies as well . . .
You’re not really Exley in disguise are you?
January 7th, 2007 at 3:50 pmEstaban
You’re funny and a pychologist. Here is my generalization.
Estaban – you must be an illegal alien. Is your back still wet? How long did it take you to master the phrase “would jew like fries wid dat amigo?
January 7th, 2007 at 3:50 pmHeh.
Where did HH go?
See #226.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:52 pmrobert
No she isn’t, she’s too busy spending my money. Right now she is at the mall.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:52 pmThat’s why the children of this country of out of control, because parents abandon their children to chase the mighty dollar and I get to pay for your irresponsibility so you can drive a new car.
Comment by steveng7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 3:46 pm
Actually, it’s because their fathers are dead-beat pansies who need to work all the time and aren’t around to be valid male role models. I never have a problem reaching a student’s mother. Fathers however – are much harder to reach.
I have no children because I wanted a career. So, once again, your comment is pointless.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:54 pmstevieg7000 seems to be drinking his kool-aid from the pin-pricked tip of a Repugnican condom. Keep sucking buddy…
January 7th, 2007 at 3:54 pmStevie’s posts are soaked in misogyny.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:55 pmBarfly
No, that’s the truth. He stuck a gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger. It happened on January 22nd, 1972. I was nine. If you’re wrong about that assumption, which you are, than where else are you wrong.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:55 pmrobert, you’re progressive in the making yet… :)
Comment by unbelievable
Damn, did you have to say that????:)
January 7th, 2007 at 3:56 pmI get to pay for your irresponsibility so you can drive a new car.
Comment by steveng7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 3:46 pm
P.S. I am raising your children (not me specifically, but people like me). Liberal people who value job statisfaction over a big pay check. LOL
January 7th, 2007 at 3:56 pmsteveng7000 hates women.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:56 pmstevie,
Keep thinking that, buddy. Keep thinking that.
January 7th, 2007 at 3:58 pmNo she isn’t, she’s too busy spending my money. Right now she is at the mall.
Comment by steveng7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 3:52 pm
There’s the source of anger. He’s just a checkbook to his trophy wife.
After she leaves you for the gardener, next time, steve, try marrying someone who isn’t materialistic and shallow. More likely to last that way…
January 7th, 2007 at 3:58 pmIt looks like Halbert finally got the flushing he deserved. Question is, why did it take so long?
January 7th, 2007 at 3:59 pmunbelievable
But you do have a problem reaching the children which is why are country spends the most per pupil of ALL industrialized nations and our students consistently are the worst. Keep up the half assed effort. It’s a good thing you don’t have kids based on the your failure as an educator.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:00 pmDamn, did you have to say that????:)
Comment by robert — January 7, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
Yep… :)
I’ve told you – I know why you are here. I used to be you.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:01 pmIt looks like Halbert finally got the flushing he deserved. Question is, why did it take so long?
Comment by VerbalKint
Either TP finally managed to get their crap together and get rid of him, or HH finally reached the tipping point with his comment to unbelievable. I emailed it to them asking if that was finally enough to get rid of him, and now he’s gone — for now.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:02 pmunbelievable
“not materialistic and shallow”….where do these unicorn women reside; they are unlike any I’ve met in this land.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:02 pmIt looks like Halbert finally got the flushing he deserved. Question is, why did it take so long?
Comment by VerbalKint — January 7, 2007 @ 3:59 pm
Because we are liberals, and we think that we should be fair. That he had to break the big rules to be removed. I respect that. And let’s face it – he does sort of serve to remind us that we’re sane… :)
January 7th, 2007 at 4:04 pmunbelievable
you’re doing a piss poor job and that’s a fact!
January 7th, 2007 at 4:04 pmI’ve told you – I know why you are here. I used to be you.
Comment by unbelievable
My core values have not changed, my approach to things has. I told you long ago that I am not as crazy as I sound. Room clearing 101: Blast all those that balst at you, anyone left standing MIGHT be OK. Just stay vigilant.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:05 pmBut you do have a problem reaching the children which is why are country spends the most per pupil of ALL industrialized nations and our students consistently are the worst. Keep up the half assed effort.
Personally, I don’t. I just started teaching the middle of last year after 14 years as an architect.
Actually, I have been able to reach my students who were going to drop out of school by letting them know that it is okay for them to be who they are, and that they do have opinions for their futures. By the time I get them, theyare 17 and 18. You’ve already damaged them to that point so much that it’s hard work to undo your ‘child rearing’
What is failing American children are their parents. Look no further than in your own mirror to see why your child is a failure. You have that kid for the first 5-6 critical years of its life. You are 75% of the influence onits life. If your kid fails – it is you who holds the blame.
It’s a good thing you don’t have kids based on the your failure as an educator.
Comment by steveng7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
Your unrealistic expectations of others are very telling about your own failures…
January 7th, 2007 at 4:10 pmVerbalKint
You can choose whatever label you want, it doesn’t change the truth.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:11 pmI emailed it to them asking if that was finally enough to get rid of him, and now he’s gone — for now.
Comment by Zooey — January 7, 2007 @ 4:02 pm
Considering the ‘happy’ addition today, it’s fair to say that he’s probably over at yahoo or hotmail making yet another new email account….
January 7th, 2007 at 4:13 pmunbelievable
Hey dumbass….I don’t have children. I’m sorry you couldn’t make it in the real world and you had to retreat to the group “who can’t, so they teach”
Those that can do, those that can’t teach, those who can’t teach are pys ed teachers.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:15 pmwhere do these unicorn women reside; they are unlike any I’ve met in this land.
Comment by steveng7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 4:02 pm
Hint: Not at the mall.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:16 pmIt happened on January 22nd, 1972. I was nine. If you’re wrong about that assumption, which you are, than where else are you wrong.
Comment by steveng7000
Well, since you haven’t addressed the first times that you were called out for lying (by me), simply making up more “facts” also doesn’t prove your case.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:17 pmyou’re doing a piss poor job and that’s a fact!
Comment by steveng7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 4:04 pm
My boss disagrees with you. My students diagree with you. My colleagues disagree with you. My students’ parents disagree with you. My community disagrees with you. And, why not, I disagree with you.
They are all wrong and you are right? LOL
January 7th, 2007 at 4:18 pmunbelievable
“I emailed it to them asking if that was finally enough to get rid of him, and now he’s gone — for now.”
I knew you were a communist who is afraid of free speech.
Change your name to tattle tail!
January 7th, 2007 at 4:18 pmConsidering the ‘happy’ addition today, it’s fair to say that he’s probably over at yahoo or hotmail making yet another new email account….
Comment by unbelievable
I’m hoping his fatal error of today will have effectively “Santo-ized” him.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:19 pmI knew you were a communist who is afraid of free speech.
Change your name to tattle tail!
Comment by steveng7000
Idiot — but why gild the lily? We all knew that.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:21 pmMy core values have not changed, my approach to things has.
I can relate. Something happens when you begin to live in the world that exists rather than the ideal one you were sold in fairytales by the “moral majority”… Reality truly has a liberal bias.
I told you long ago that I am not as crazy as I sound.
Takes me a while to trust people. :)
Room clearing 101: Blast all those that balst at you, anyone left standing MIGHT be OK. Just stay vigilant.
Comment by robert — January 7, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
Once the fear goes, it’s hard to be intimidated by facts :)
January 7th, 2007 at 4:21 pmsomeone had to teach you, so that you could do something, steevarino, even if was the Nintendo control box. Monkey see, monkey do………..
January 7th, 2007 at 4:21 pmunbelievable – bimbo
Unfortunately, your anecdotes don’t equate to the truth, the facts say otherwise.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:21 pmI knew you were a communist who is afraid of free speech.
Free speech does not entitle you to yell “Duhh!” in a crowded thread. You’re lucky you’re not getting the Hendler-grade replies – then you wouldn’t have to worry about having kids.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:23 pmHey dumbass….I don’t have children.
Whew!
I’m sorry you couldn’t make it in the real world and you had to retreat to the group “who can’t, so they teachâ€
Actually, I work for a school that hired people from Business and Industry because they wanted those who had done to teach. They thought it was a better approach to the high school drop out rate. It’s still new, but it’s looking pretty good.
Those that can do, those that can’t teach, those who can’t teach are pys ed teachers.
Comment by steveng7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
Only morons insult teachers – because without teachers how would doctors, engineers, laywers, scientists, etc. become who they are?
I teach Architecture. Hello? Wasn’t that obvious?
January 7th, 2007 at 4:24 pmsteveng7000,
January 7th, 2007 at 4:25 pmFree speech is a right afforded all Americans. Free speech is also a responsibility of all Americans. When the level of speech becomes that which is found offensive in nature you abdicate your right to free speech. It is called co-existing in a society and being respectful. A quality you have not displayed.
I’m hoping his fatal error of today will have effectively “Santo-ized†him.
Comment by Zooey — January 7, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
LOL… Let’s hope. (Though I think that Santo gets invoked like Beetlejuice when we say his name :)
Gotta run… Have a good evening all!
January 7th, 2007 at 4:27 pmBarfly
I’m not yelling, it’s called typing in caps. I’m not a blogger. Save your technerd labels for you and your friends. I find this entertaining and I don’t take you seriously. One of you actually admits to being a teacher….how funny is that?
January 7th, 2007 at 4:28 pmIt is called co-existing in a society and being respectful. A quality you have not displayed.
Comment by robert
Nice one, Robert.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:29 pm#273,Saddly, I even have to defend the rights of a$$holes.
BTW, tag
January 7th, 2007 at 4:33 pmrobert
“When the level of speech becomes that which is found offensive in nature you abdicate your right to free speech.”
Sounds a lot like Sadam Hussein.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:35 pmI often wondered what his handicap was. It could not be blindness as I know may people who are blind who through the National Institute for the Blind get access to tools that allow them to type messages in the correct case and with the correct spelling as well as read messages. There are commercial products that take in verbal entry as well as text (both paper and electronic media) to speech products. Hearing would not be a problem as sight and touch are all one needs for entry. Stephen Hawkins manages quite well with Lou Gehrig’s disease. There are even devices that allow one to input Morse code with blinking of the eyes. These have been more recently been replaced by focus scan devices that allow one to basically look at a keyboard-like image and type. Individuals using these devices can sometimes type at speeds faster than a typical speed typist.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:35 pmYou can choose whatever label you want, it doesn’t change the truth.
Comment by steveng7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 4:11 pm
Dude, we just agreed on something! Now tell that to the Bush propaganda machine.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:36 pm#270 – robert,
I read and respect your posts here. I don’t always agree with you…however…
GO BRO!!
It is called co-existing in a society and being respectful. A quality you have not displayed.
Comment by robert
Respect!!!!
– dixie
January 7th, 2007 at 4:37 pmmotherlowman – I’m taking care of myself and my family. I would not waste my time in the military because you and your ilk are not worth defending. I hope they let the prisoners at gitmo loose in this country.
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 12:13 pm
Oh, bullshit. The members of our armed forces don’t get to pick and choose who they defend. It’s all or nothing. “America” is not just made up of a piece of land on the rock in space called the planet Earth. Collectively, we all make up this country…poor, rich, mailmen, ditch diggers, president, congressman, the homeless, CEOs, people from other countries who have obtained their citizenship….EVERYONE.
What a pansy-ass excuse to not fight in Bush’s war of choice. We are all Americans.
What kind of company do you work for, and what are your job duties? Odds are that you have customers, either internal, external, or both. Does your management allow you pick and choose who you serve in your job? Does your management let you work on behalf of only Republicans who support Bush’s “war” of choice? No?
January 7th, 2007 at 4:37 pm#273,Saddly, I even have to defend the rights of a$$holes.
BTW, tag
Comment by robert
It’s only right to do so, Robert. If they were left on their own they couldn’t survive.
Tag.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:37 pmVerbalKint
Bush never did anything for me and we agree on a lot more than you could ever imagine.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:38 pmSounds a lot like Sadam Hussein.
Comment by steveng7000
Here is an idea, go into Compton and yell “N*&ger” then thell the people beating your a$$ that it is free speach. Or better yet, come to Camp Lejeune and tell me my wife is a prostitute, then try to tell me it is free speach while my hands are wrapped around your neck.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:42 pmstevie, baby, let me see if you can notice a trend.
I have been posting here for a couple months now. I am a known registered republican and a very vocal opponant to many of the idea of Democrats and those on the left side of things. Yet for some reason I have never gotten 1/3 of the sh*t you are today. here is why: 1)FACTS and 2)RESPECT.
Get a grip, or go away.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:48 pmDon’t let Steveng 7000 BS you. I went to school with him,he’s as dumb as they come. He was taking “Intro to Simple English” in the 12th grade”. It took him 15 years to complete 12 grades,never graduating,was socially promoted in almost every year.He works for county picking up road kill on the highways,when he isn’t pumping “Johnny-on-the Spot”, port-o-potties for less than minimum wage. Just another loser, who thinks he’s at the top of his professions,cause he’s been there the longest!
January 7th, 2007 at 4:49 pmWhy did y’all let these comments become the steveg7000show? There is plenty to say in support of Congress exercising its duty of oversight. That is not a Democratic issue, it is their Constitutional duty.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:51 pm#282 – robert,
January 7th, 2007 at 4:52 pmMy, you are being congenial today! My first reaction if I were in Camp Ljeune would be to kick his balls so hard that they would exit his body via his scalp.
Unbe and I finally agree on something – but probably not for the same reasons. Most of the failure of todays children can be laid at the feet of their parents. Parents who were told:
a.) when you have happy divorced parents you get adaptable chilren.
b.) dad isn’t necessary – look at the number of single moms and out-of- wedlock births.
c.) mom should fulfill herself (if she WANTS) and drop the kiddies in daycare – after all “quality time” is more important.
d.) they need to pay more taxes so mom better get that second income – I actually had a mother say she “did not want to mar her time with (her) child by being a disciplinarian.” obviously this mom did not realize that discipline means teaching a child.
P.S. Only morons defend teachers’ unions – those bastions of protection for the inept……
January 7th, 2007 at 4:56 pmThere is plenty to say in support of Congress exercising its duty of oversight. That is not a Democratic issue, it is their Constitutional duty.
Like I said earlier, what would the New Congress concider justification?
January 7th, 2007 at 4:56 pmMy, you are being congenial today! My first reaction if I were in Camp Ljeune would be to kick his balls so hard that they would exit his body via his scalp.
Comment by WaltTheMan
What do you think I would be doing with my knees? One body, many weapons.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:58 pmSteve – You know you’re upseeting them when they attack only YOU and nothing of substance to refute your point. These are the same folks who are glad that welfare reform did not mean welfare cessation – where, oh where, would they be? Parked on Aunt Tillies’ sofa….
January 7th, 2007 at 5:00 pmmighty aphrodite,
When someone refers to all married women who do not work as prostitutes, and says that women are not his equals, he has brought the fire onto himself.
January 7th, 2007 at 5:04 pmMighty Aphrodite,
January 7th, 2007 at 5:07 pmWhat does “upseeting” mean?
When someone refers to all married women who do not work as prostitutes, and says that women are not his equals, he has brought the fire onto himself.
Comment by robert
Married women who work were also brought under fire by tiny steve.
What say you Hagette? You’re obviously a working “girl” — of some sort.
January 7th, 2007 at 5:10 pmWho knows, maybe MA is one of those women that is into that kind of thing. I hear they exist. But I also believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny.
January 7th, 2007 at 5:14 pmMA,
January 7th, 2007 at 5:16 pmMy spouse was a member of a teacher’s union. She has five Presidential Awards for excellence in education from the Ford, Carter, Reagan, Clinton and Bush 43 administrations. one Bronze, three Silver and one Gold. She has worked pro bono for the last ten years teaching adults to read. She has a doctorate in Speech and Hearing and could be earning about 200 grand a year if she wanted to. We, as a couple decided that we had enough to survive for the next 50 years and it was more important to give back to society what we were so fortunate to receive.
MA,
Tell me a dead baby joke…PLEASE…PLEASE…
January 7th, 2007 at 5:16 pmI guess Bush will have to wait till Tuesday to breif Pelosi on her concerns since one of the first acts of the Dems is to break their word and scale back to a 4 day work week.
January 7th, 2007 at 5:19 pmSteveengland, you must be a brainwashed christian fundamentalist.
Try this webpage, you will see a real peace fighter, a freedom fighter slamming the criminal bush and his concubine whore Tony B_liar.This freedom fighter (actually nobel prize winner) calls Tony B_liar “U.S foreign minister” .Too sad to be funny….
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/01/30/iraq/main538607.shtml
Regards from Venezuela….
January 7th, 2007 at 5:25 pmDO SOMETHING ABOUT GUANTANAMO HES IS TOTALLY INNOCENT
A day in the life of Bisher al-Rawi
5am The prisoner is woken by guards banging on his cell door. The lights have been on through the night. The prisoner is told to return his cotton sheet, which he will not get back until nightfall.
8am The guards pass his daily ration of 15 sheets of toilet paper through a slot in the door. They are instructed not to talk, adding to the sensory deprivation.
9am Mr al-Rawi is served the first meal of the day: eggs, potatoes and water.
9.30am He is told to return the tray and plastic spoon through the slot.
11.30am Twice a week, the prisoner gets a rare treat: a shower. He is allowed out of his cell after being shackled and manacled and is taken to the shower by a guard. He is issued with a small piece of soap and watched at all times. He is allowed precisely five minutes.
12.30pm A lunch of cold halal chicken is passed through the slot in the door. No hot food has been allowed for the past five years. The plastic utensil is passed back through the door after 30 minutes.
3pm If he is lucky, this is the day for the prisoner’s weekly letter writing session. He is issued with the internal part of a miniature Biro pen through the door. Again, the transaction will be carried out in silence.
3.30pm After 30 minutes, the slot on the door reopens and the prisoner is told to hand back the pen and paper. The letter is edited before being despatched.
5pm Mr al-Rawi hears neighbouring prisoners being taken to the exercise yard, but he will not be joining them, as part of the policy of denying him any social contact.
6pm A cold meal is passed through the door slot.
7pm The prisoner usually spends the next three hours pacing the 6ft by 8ft cell, talking to himself.
10pm The slot on the door opens for the final time of the day. He is issued with a sheet, but no blanket, and prepares his bedding on an inch-thick foam mattress.
Midnight The library cart rattles past cells but Mr al-Rawi is not allowed reading material, except a copy of the Koran.
1am The prisoner settles down to sleep. The fluorescent lamp in the ceiling will glare down all night.
January 7th, 2007 at 5:28 pmIt is a wonder the universities are not chocked full of students getting a doctorate in Speech and Hearing.
January 7th, 2007 at 5:29 pmWho knows, maybe MA is one of those women that is into that kind of thing.
Self-loathing at it’s finest.
I hear they exist. But I also believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny.
Comment by robert
Don’t forget the Tooth Fairy!
January 7th, 2007 at 5:30 pmjames york
Please provide a source for this information. I am curious to read more.
You do realize that, for the most part, you described the county jail right up the road, right? Not a lot of difference.
January 7th, 2007 at 5:38 pmI just scanned briefly over the almost 300 posts here (probably 300 by the time I hit the button) and read a few of the things said by stevieg7000. Judging from the number of times the guy has posted and the attitude, it looks like halbert just changed names again.
How long before we start seeing the gigantic cut-and-paste posts, all in CAPS, again?
January 7th, 2007 at 5:40 pmI don’t know halbert, I’ve never been halbert, I’ve never met halbert and I don’t like sugar in my tea.
January 7th, 2007 at 5:45 pm304 – chimpeach,
Perfect observation…maybe it’s Exley or sEXXiOn….
January 7th, 2007 at 5:45 pmHow long before we start seeing the gigantic cut-and-paste posts, all in CAPS, again?
Comment by chimpeach
HH was deleted earlier today. Tiny stevie here hasn’t reached HH’s level yet, apparently.
January 7th, 2007 at 5:47 pmPerfect observation…maybe it’s Exley or sEXXiOn….
Comment by dixie blood
I hate to admit it, but neither Exley nor Norway Boy are that stupid.
January 7th, 2007 at 5:49 pmc.) mom should fulfill herself (if she WANTS) and drop the kiddies in daycare – after all “quality time†is more important. Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 7, 2007 @ 4:56 pm
Ony a republican fool would be stupid enough to simultaneously claim to be a working mother and make this comment – like you have. I’ve seen dumb – but you’re a league by yourself.
Told any dead baby jokes lately, dumba$$ loser?
“P.S. Only morons defend teachers’ unions – those bastions of protection for the inept…… Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 7, 2007 @ 4:56 pm”
Looks like you have a full time job defending the *inept* as a republican! Talk about *moron*, your stupidity makes Britney look smart, you trailer trash fool.
January 7th, 2007 at 5:55 pmmighty aphrodite
….and than they attack you personally. At least their consistent.
It sort of like, if you don’t agree with them you are scum, less than competent and not valid as a human. I wonder if hitler, stalin, hussein and castro share other liberal mindsets beyond these on display here.
January 7th, 2007 at 5:55 pmre: #1 & 6 Republican Terror & Fear Propaganda
The terrorists are emboldened by the mid-term elections and an outcome in which they believe was a victory for them. Watching Pelosi being sworn in serves to create more hatred for America and it’s collective way of life. The terrorists DO NOT respect her as a leader; they see her as a weakness of the USA. I’m sure hearing her cackle surrounded by a bunch of children really instilled fear in the hearts of the terrorists. This blog is a shining example of how the terrorists, their methods and their goals of divide and conquer will prevail over the USA and it’s collective way of life. Your children are going to die at the hands of these terrorists; as you continue to fan the flame. While all of you waste your time pounding meaningless words which will NEVER EVER CHANGE ONE THING, the terrorists are plotting a way to kill you and your children. Your collective ignorance is very scary and I’m glad I did not bring children into this world…..Here is a riddle: Was there more violence and death in IRAQ or California in 2005. The answer is CALIFORNIA!
Blog on dolts while the world is burning around you!!!!!!
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 11:58 am
The above is pure Republican propaganda and a flat out lie. The “terrorists” have been emboldened by 50 years of US foreign policy which involves backing corrupt dicators around the world. The chemical weapons Saddam used to gas the Kurds were sold to him by Rumsfeld/Reagan/Bush. This is why they rushed his execution and prosecuted him on totally different charges and prevented Saddam from spilling the beans on these killers. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Stevieg7000, you and your ilk are the ones that embolden terrorists. Do us all a favor and put your cowardly ass in boots and join the bloodbath in Iraq. Take one for the team and be a human shield for the troops. No one here is succeptible to your Right wing propaganda terror tactics. The American people are more afraid of you and your agenda than they are any so called “terrorists.” If anyone is plotting on our children, it is Republicans who intend to send them off to their deaths in future wars. Look for more of your Republican Terror Propagandists to be ousted from their political offices in 08. We’ve had enough of your Republican lies, murder, and looting of the natural treasury.
January 7th, 2007 at 5:56 pmDon’t you just love the ones that throw a bomb and run. At least stay and watch the fallout.
January 7th, 2007 at 5:59 pmDon’t you just love the ones that throw a bomb and run. At least stay and watch the fallout.
January 7th, 2007 at 5:59 pmDear Waltthe Teachers’ “Spouse” – Please do me a favour and give your spouse my highest regards. I’m sure there are twenty or 30 great teachers out there out of a couple of million. (My mom was a great elementary school teacher – she threw out the mandate to teach “sight reading” and concentrated on phonics. Her students were great little readers…) Now, if you’re done patting yourself on the back and trying to convince me how you are so altruistic, would you be so kind as to address the effects of the Left’s Social Agenda on the nation and world as outlined in a-d?
January 7th, 2007 at 5:59 pmDemocraticPatriot
Both parties send troops to war. Your party is turning pedophiles loose on the children.
January 7th, 2007 at 6:00 pmDear Dem Patriot – When you’re through whining about US support for dictators, would you be so kind as to admit that while the House of Saud is a dictatorship propped up by both Dems and Repubs, it’s NOT quite on the same level as …say, Stalin…..Make no mistake, I would like to return the Arabs to their rightful place in the camel riding world….but when you make grand pronouncements about “dicatorships” please differentiate between dictators and dick-tators…..
January 7th, 2007 at 6:03 pmIt sort of like, if you don’t agree with them you are scum, less than competent and not valid as a human. I wonder if hitler, stalin, hussein and castro share other liberal mindsets beyond these on display here.
Comment by stevieg7000
stevie, baby, you fire without fact. You spout rhetoric, not fact. If you have facts, they are hard to dispute.
I have been a Republican ever since I could vote. What you do is not even based on a political ideology. You have a desire to “stir the pot” because you need attention as your “wife” is out “spending your money”. I do not share the same mindset as MOST of those that post here, but at least I respect their right to have a different view and don’t just argue out of my ass.
January 7th, 2007 at 6:04 pm#301 – joeslogic,
January 7th, 2007 at 6:07 pmI agree, there are too many people who care more about what they can get instead of what they can give. We have $4 million in the bank and have spent $4 million since we married, 40 years ago. We are both over 66, have no mortgage, no car payments and no debts plus Social Security, Medicare, two pension incomes and investments that appreciate at 14-15% per year.
“Dear Dem Patriot – When you’re through whining about US support for dictators, would you be so kind as to admit that while the House of Saud is a dictatorship propped up by both Dems and Repubs, it’s NOT quite on the same level as …say, Stalin…..Make no mistake, I would like to return the Arabs to their rightful place in the camel riding world….but when you make grand pronouncements about “dicatorships†please differentiate between dictators and dick-tators….. Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 7, 2007 @ 6:03 pm”
So when you morons compared saddam to hitler, you’re saying you’re being a bunch of *pricktaters*, and dishonest? Well dumba$$, no kidding. You’re all too *stupid* to know the difference, but it’s nice of you to point out that you’re more *dick* supporters than *dictator* supporters. You idiot moron.
January 7th, 2007 at 6:08 pmSteve – The difference between Conservatives and Liberals – they are constantly trying to impress everyone with how much “empathy” they supposedly have. In the meantime, certain fools criticize my work and have NO clue how Mr. Aphrodite and I divide our time – but left to their own devices in front of the computer, we can console ourselves knowing that at least they’re not on MySpace or porn sites….
January 7th, 2007 at 6:08 pm…and don’t just argue out of my ass.
Comment by robert
Um, thanks for not doing that part… :-D
January 7th, 2007 at 6:09 pmIt would be a good idea for some of the posters to get over themselves….
January 7th, 2007 at 6:12 pmMA
….they do confuse empathy with action. Taking up their time, I’m confident, is saving a child somewhere.
Keep up the good fight.
January 7th, 2007 at 6:20 pmMA ….they do confuse empathy with action. Taking up their time, I’m confident, is saving a child somewhere. Keep up the good fight.
Comment by stevieg7000 — January 7, 2007 @ 6:20 pm
As opposed to you pricks, that confuse talking about action, with action. And talking down to empathy as though it’s an irrelevant emotion. You know you sick idiots probably have the same aspergers as Hendler. It’s a mental disorder that ensures you *have no empathy*. It explains why you all come across as defective stupid losers. Because, you are – *skippy*. Defective moron *losers*.
January 7th, 2007 at 6:32 pmThanks Steve – I NEVER confuse empathy with action. Have you seen the studies that show conservatives donate more time and money to charity than Progs…..Goes to show – talk is CHEAP and so are many libs…..
Remember – refuting the spew here is a community service…..but not a charity…..
January 7th, 2007 at 6:32 pm#318 – Walt – Congrats!! I’m sure your investments are socially respnsible and your donations to the less fortunate are huge…..
January 7th, 2007 at 6:34 pm“Steve – The difference between Conservatives and Liberals – they are constantly trying to impress everyone with how much “empathy†they supposedly have. Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 7, 2007 @ 6:08 pm”
So you believe that *having no empathy* such as yourself is better than what you see as those *supposedly* having empathy? You officially skipped stupid, into deranged brain damaged dickwad.
“In the meantime, certain fools criticize my work and have NO clue how Mr. Aphrodite and I divide our time – but left to their own devices in front of the computer, we can console ourselves knowing that at least they’re not on MySpace or porn sites…. Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 7, 2007 @ 6:08 pm”
You post here all of the time, during work hours, when your kids clearly are on holiday break. Who’s the *fool*, the one that sees you’re a liar, or the liar that pretends they didn’t get caught? The *trolls* are most certainly fools, bad parents, bad human beings, and bad immoral idiots. But anyone that’s read your $hit for brains posting didn’t need me to explain that. Apparently you do – you whiney little dick spittle.
January 7th, 2007 at 6:37 pmDear Loser – I suppose having to go to the library to access a computer takes you away from home (or if you had a job, work). Fortunately, I don’t have that problem…..
January 7th, 2007 at 6:41 pm“Thanks Steve – I NEVER confuse empathy with action. Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 7, 2007 @ 6:32 pm”
A fool deals in absolutes. I’m sure you’re no *more* confused about this than any other topic. But all things being relative – that doesn’t speak highly of you. But no one would!
“Have you seen the studies that show conservatives donate more time and money to charity than Progs…..Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 7, 2007 @ 6:32 pm”
Only a stupid fool begins with *have you seen the studies*, especially when referring what some right wing bag of wind puts out as a *study*. You’re a fool, an idiot, and a buffoon!
“Goes to show – talk is CHEAP and so are many libs….. Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 7, 2007 @ 6:32 pm”
Goes to show you, nothing is more *cheap* than man conservatives. That prefer to *believe* their side is more *charitable* in the face of all evidence to the contrary. You’re an uncharitably lying idiot.
“Remember – refuting the spew here is a community service…..but not a charity….. Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 7, 2007 @ 6:32 pm”
Community service is to point out that you belong in a trailer with your skirt hiked over the rest of the trash. Idiot.
January 7th, 2007 at 6:43 pm“#318 – Walt – Congrats!! I’m sure your investments are socially respnsible and your donations to the less fortunate are huge…..Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 7, 2007 @ 6:34 pm”
And I’m sure any blood that gets squeezed out of your *stone* is deducted on your taxes. Stupid idiot.
January 7th, 2007 at 6:44 pm“Dear Loser – I suppose having to go to the library to access a computer takes you away from home (or if you had a job, work). Fortunately, I don’t have that problem….. Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 7, 2007 @ 6:41 pm”
And I suppose, you’re a fool, and a moron. Dumba$$.
January 7th, 2007 at 6:52 pm#187, Zooey,
Your child is fortunate, because there is a much better understanding of autism today than ever before, and many schools now offer a curriculum tailored to their needs, which is intended to segue or “mainstream” them after the first couple years of school.
As for the individual who calls me a pussy, unless you put down your full name as I have, we all see who the real pussy is …
January 7th, 2007 at 6:53 pm#326 – MA,
January 7th, 2007 at 6:59 pmActually investments are mostly in Euro and yuan based assets. This would seem to be socially acceptable as none of the countries involved are aggressors.
MA,
I still waiting on another dead baby joke from you…
January 7th, 2007 at 6:59 pmit’s much less volatile on Smirking Chimp. too many personal attacks here, too little discussion of the real topics. we all know, but apparently seem to forget (in the heat of the ‘battle’) that you can say anything on the internet; anonymity is a double edged sword. and as i used to hear back in Arkansas – 1. first liar doesn’t have a chance, and 2. ‘they say’ and ‘i heard’ are the 2 biggest liars in the world.
January 7th, 2007 at 7:06 pmYa’ll have fun and please play nice!
bw
At this link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/5005598.stm
You will find the following racist comment by our own Jason M. Hendler.
“Pan-Africanism will happen, but not in the hands of black Africans. ”
Jason M. Hendler, Melbourne, Florida
Hi Racist Jay!!!
PS. Tell us about your “Ivy League” edumacation too!!!
Haa haahahhhhhaaaaaa!!!!!
And that “patent” you have!!!
HAaa Haaahahaaaaahhaaaaa!!!!
January 7th, 2007 at 7:12 pm[...] Democrats in Congress are Flat-Out, Completely, Horizontally Opposedtm to the surge plan. And Democrats are now in the majority. Democrats can totally outpower Republicans in the House on this issue, if they choose to. And it looks like they choose to. (Pelosi on Face The Nation today: “if the president wants to add to this mission, he is going to have to justify it. And this is new for him because up until now the Republican Congress has given him a blank check with no oversight, no standards, no conditions. And we’ve gone into this situation, which is a war without end, which the American people have rejected.”) [...]
January 7th, 2007 at 7:19 pmI’ve shed plenty…want to suck some of my blood…go ahead vampire…
January 7th, 2007 at 7:20 pmTo Stevieg7000:
Thank you ever so much for not bringing kids into this world. We don’t need any more idiots. Bush and his crime family, and all of you Repugnicans are quite enough!
January 7th, 2007 at 7:24 pmDear Dem Patriot – When you’re through whining about US support for dictators, would you be so kind as to admit that while the House of Saud is a dictatorship propped up by both Dems and Repubs, it’s NOT quite on the same level as …say, Stalin…..Make no mistake, I would like to return the Arabs to their rightful place in the camel riding world
Blather by Mightette Hypocrite
Yes, one big difference between the House of Saud and Stalin is that women could have jobs and co-education under Stalin. You wouldn’t even be able to claim to be a female lawyerette in Saudi Arabia, where, by the way, people can be arrested just for having a Bible. It is also so typical of you to bring up in a comparison Stalin, who has been dead and out of power for some 50 years. It is furthermore typical of your primitive hatred of Arabs not to see the difference between Saudi Arabia and a moderate Muslim country like Tunisia, for example. And, by the way, you don’t have “to return the Arabs to their rightful place in the camel riding world,” camel-riding is still alive and well in desert areas.
January 7th, 2007 at 7:27 pm[...] http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/07/pelosi-iraq/ [...]
January 7th, 2007 at 7:28 pm#341 – Lora,
January 7th, 2007 at 7:39 pmStay away from those Apple Martinis.
This thread is certainly a disappointment!
January 7th, 2007 at 7:40 pmI posted comment #57 because I hoped to read others’ thoughts about Speaker Pelosi’s tired mantra of supporting the troops already in Iraq as an excuse in advance for voting to continue the occupation.
4 parts Sweet and Sour mix, 3 parts 99 Apple Schnapps, 3 parts Vodka, optional – Grannie Smith apple eights as a garnish.
January 7th, 2007 at 7:46 pm“refuting the spew here is a community service”
Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 7, 2007 @ 6:32 pmâ€
So you’re here doing ‘community service’ MA? Interesting sentence, you must have been before a republican judge. What’d you get popped for?
January 7th, 2007 at 7:46 pm“Yes, one big difference between the House of Saud and Stalin is that women could have jobs and co-education under Stalin….” Lora
******Well Lora, I suppose an equal education and employment platform wipes out 20 million dead Russians
“You wouldn’t even be able to claim to be a female lawyerette in Saudi Arabia,…” – Lora
***** Nice try – but I think javing a Jewish mom would cause me bigger problems in Saudi Arabia than attempting to practice law.
“…where, by the way, people can be arrested just for having a Bible.”
*****They sound just a tad more antagonistic towards Jews and Christians than the ACLU….
“It is also so typical of you to bring up in a comparison Stalin, who has been dead and out of power for some 50 years.”
******So what! In one breath, the Left asks me to respect centuries old culture or recognize cultures who haven’t discovered the wheel and in the next you’re forgetting 50 years of history…..(didn’t do well in history, huh?)
“….camel-riding is still alive and well in desert areas.”
January 7th, 2007 at 7:47 pmComment by Lora
******Precisely!!! I think we should up end them from those modern contraptions (known as Mercedes Benz) and assist them back to their rightful “ships of the desert”.
Notice that “dixie crud” showed up just as I wiped up the floor once again with Jason M. Hendlers past racist sh!t…Nice try Hitler!!
DD
January 7th, 2007 at 7:49 pmMA,
Where’s the dead baby jokes???
January 7th, 2007 at 7:50 pmThis thread is certainly a disappointment!
January 7th, 2007 at 7:50 pmI posted comment #57 because I hoped to read others’ thoughts about Speaker Pelosi’s tired mantra of supporting the troops already in Iraq as an excuse in advance for another House vote to continue funding the occupation.
My comment wasn’t brilliant or insightful, but I thought it was pertinent.
Almost 300 comments have been posted since then, but I didn’t see one that was on-subject. Instead, nearly all have been devoted to arguing with a troll, to no worthwhile purpose (confession: I made comment #122 about that, and wish I hadn’t).
While I have no problem with engaging trolls as a sport, I’m sorry to see it has taken precedence over discussion of the blog post subject.
I guess I am a “Nancy boy”, and damn proud of it!!
January 7th, 2007 at 7:54 pmI don’t know what happened to cause the false start that is comment #344. My entire comment is #350.
January 7th, 2007 at 7:55 pmNice try – but I think javing a Jewish mom would cause me bigger problems in Saudi Arabia than attempting to practice law.
you’re forgetting 50 years of history…..(didn’t do well in history, huh?)
Blather by Mightette Hypocrite
Having a holy Bible in Saudi Arabia would cause you just as much trouble as having a Jewish mother. And please supply some proof that the ACLU has advocated people being arrested for being Christians or Jews or having Bibles. You still can’t see the difference between private religious worship, which liberals and the ACLU (which has, in fact, many Jewish lawyers) respects, and keeping religious activities out of public schools. There are always Catholic and other types of religious schools parents can send their chidlren to, if they want them to have a religious education, as you should well know, since you’re always boasting of your own private school experience. (In reality, you make a rather poor advertisement for the “benefits” of private school education.)
January 7th, 2007 at 8:20 pmI’m not forgetting history; I’m simply saying what happened under Stalin 60 or more years ago maybe isn’t the most apt comparison to Saudi Arabia today. How about comparing more recent US-supported dictatorships like Chile under Pinochet?
Finally, don’t make assumptions about my marks in history. I received mostly A’s in it; the lowest grade I got in it was a B. Bad guess, as usual.
And no comments on moderate Muslim countries like Tunisia? Or perhaps you don’t want to recognize that they exist.
Here you go diddy, The new democratic majority is going to assess the situation and not just throw up a wall. No matter what the feelings on the war are the reality of it is the troops are there and to not fund all the troops would not be wise or realistic. The democrats are focusing on this latest increase.
To say “bring them all home now” without having completed even their initial 100 hours wouldn’t be a prudent move.
January 7th, 2007 at 8:25 pmTo Diddy,
January 7th, 2007 at 8:30 pmYou’re right: we shouldn’t spend so much time responding to trolls like MA, Tracy, stevie-boy, Jason MH, joesillogic, etc. I must admit the temptation sometimes overwhelms me.
As for your pertinent question, I can agree with the following idea:
“Defense Appropriations Chairman John Murtha (D-PA) told Arianna Huffington last week that he wants to ‘fence the funding,’ denying the president the resources to escalate the war, instead using the money to take care of the soldiers as we bring them home from Iraq ‘as soon as we can.’â€
After all, the “mission” was supposedly already “accomplished.” Therefore, there should be no need for the US to be in Iraq any longer, and whatever money is appropriated should be used for bringing the troops home safely.
[...] Nico at Think Progress: This morning on CBS’s Face the Nation, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) announced that Congress may refuse to authorize funding for an escalation of U.S. forces to Iraq if President Bush cannot justify the strategy. [...]
January 7th, 2007 at 8:39 pmThere have also been episodes in which entire blog threads (or large portions thereof) with violently opposing views, were written and controlled by one single person or small groups, waiting for “real†liberals to enter the discussion. They will begin by posting a political position on a certain issue, then respond under a different name, contesting the first posters’ views, then respond again to the responder, hoping to lure in people with views opposite theirs. They often line their posts with insults and personal attacks to throw off any suspicious participants. Once they have lured the unaware blogger into their lair, the other names begin to gang up on the victim, depicting his views as extremist. Theywill not hesitate to use intimidation to take apart the “extremist†views of the unfortunate navigator. Little does the victim know that he may be under attack from a single person, or group, using different names, often with only one IP address. It’s cyber-bullying, if not downright gangbanging.
The goal of these fake bloggers’ activities is not necessarily to change the opinions of their opponents, rather, it allows them to catalogue the blogger as someone from the opposite camp. From that moment onward, the blogger is branded, and through the tracing of their IP address, can be stalked and followed.
Welcome to Think Progress stevieg7000.
January 7th, 2007 at 8:45 pm#354 & #355 – Thanks!
January 7th, 2007 at 9:30 pmDennis Kucinich, a real progressive, makes the point that “Each appropriations vote gives the President ‘implied consent’ to continue the war.”
I think the 100 hour plan is good political tactics, and good for the country. I’ve been ready to go nuts over Nancy Pelosi, but her statement that “…the new Congress should not refuse to provide the funds that the troops already in Iraq…” means to me is that a House vote to “stay the course” is done deal.
#358 Mr Diddy Wah Diddy
Nothing short of immediate withdrawal tomorrow will satisfy the ‘purists’. Logistics be damned. Greater loss of life than a well thought out plan for re-deploying the troops? Who cares? They’re going to stage their tantrums unless Nancy Pelosi personally flies in to Baghdad and starts evacuating troops. Right Now!!!
Yeah, right. Nancy Pelosi is all about stay the course. Gimme a f*cking break.
January 7th, 2007 at 9:43 pm“As for the individual who calls me a pussy, unless you put down your full name as I have, we all see who the real pussy is … Comment by Jason M. Hendler — January 7, 2007 @ 6:53 pm”
When your name is a signature for volunteering in Iraq, you’ll have courage. Until then, everyone already knows who the real pussy is. The one that calls for war, but is too cowardly to serve in a combat situation. That’s you and mighty aphrodite. Nothing more than communist obsessed morons, that don’t even understand the world, politics or basic human decency. You’re both piles of steaming foul $hit – and nothing more – pussy boy.
January 7th, 2007 at 9:50 pm#354 (ţ) – Thanks!
I may give this up. I’d just begun another comment, when it vanished, perhaps to appear unfinished in this thread again.
Dennis Kucinich, a real progressive, says that “Each appropriations vote gives the President “implied consent” to continue the war.” and I can’t see any way to dispute that.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-dennis-kucinich/there-is-only-one-way-to-_b_35299.html
Speaker Pelosi’s statement that “…the new Congress should not refuse to provide the funds that the troops already in Iraq…” says to me that further House votes to continue funding are assured. It sounds to me like a promise not to resist…not unlike her promise that impeachment is ruled out. My impression is one of surrender to Bush before the battle is joined, and that’s not what I’ve been voting for!
My disagreement is with the notion that we have to keep pouring money into Iraq because troops are there. Congress shut down the Vietnam war, and I don’t remember hearing about troops being left behind as a result.
January 7th, 2007 at 9:55 pmI think we’re being fed a phony justification for “staying the course” that makes no more sense than saying troops have died, and we dishonor them unless we send more troops to die.
By the way, just cutting off funding will not keep Bush from sending in troops. They’ve been able to move money around from other things in the past, especially since the Republicans allowed them to do whatever they wanted without any accountability and very little accounting. The oversight begins this week. What Pelosi is talking about is to bring the administration into hearings and say “You want more money? Give us an itemized list. You don’t get a blank check this time around.” That doesn’t mean funding for a surge. That means making sure any funding that’s appropriated doesn’t get moved to support a surge. Whether a withdrawal begins tomorrow or six months from now, the funds still need to be appropriated for existing troops.
January 7th, 2007 at 9:59 pm#361 Mr Diddy Wah Diddy
I think we’re being fed a phony justification for “staying the course†that makes no more sense than saying troops have died, and we dishonor them unless we send more troops to die.
Why? Why do you think that Nancy Pelosi is lying to you? What is it that makes you think that she wants to keep troops over there and that, regardless of what she says, she really sees things the same way Bush does?
January 7th, 2007 at 10:03 pmPart of the problem is that the money for the troops is also combined with the no bid contracts and therein lies the true demon of this conflict. Billions pissed away with no accountability. The GAO released a report in December saying urgent oversight is needed with the contractors in Iraq. The military had not been given proper training in utilizing the contractors, don’t know how many are working on many given jobs and aren’t working with other private contractors to complete projects. History will show this to be one of GW’s biggest blunders.
January 7th, 2007 at 10:14 pmMolly Ivins kicks ass, as usual:
http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=21830
January 7th, 2007 at 10:21 pmLets see how it all plays out.
January 7th, 2007 at 10:21 pmTigger’ accused of smacking young fan
POSTED: 10:58 a.m. EST, January 7, 2007
• New Hampshire man says “Tigger” intentionally hit his son “on or about the head”
• Incident allegedly happened while Tigger and boy posed for photo
• Employee who played Tigger suspended while Disney World investigates
• Another Tigger was accused in 2004 of fondling 13-year-old; found not guilty
Adjust font size:
ORLANDO, Florida (AP) — A Walt Disney World employee dressed as the character Tigger was accused of hitting a child while posing for a photo, a spokeswoman for the theme park said Saturday.
What up with Tigger? I think we have a new boogy man.
January 7th, 2007 at 10:25 pmI would think that “Justify it” means an explanation of how the troops are to be used. If we are going to go from neighborhood to neighborhood, clearing, where are the troops for the holding part.
January 7th, 2007 at 10:50 pmLucyyyy, you got some splaining to do!!!
Please understand that I have been eager to go nuts over Nancy Pelosi, and I didn’t say, nor do I think she is lying.
January 7th, 2007 at 10:59 pmI don’t know what, if anything, she plans to do to end the disastrous US occupation of Iraq, but all I’m hearing that we need to keep pouring money into that quagmire because we’re there. Not only that, but Pelosi and many others are using this justification which I call phony, before there is even any debate on Bush’s next request for more billions.
Perhaps someone can explain the reason for the Speaker to promise that the House will continue to fund this endless war…or tell me another way to interpret her statement “…the new Congress should not refuse to provide the funds that the troops already in Iraq…” Isn’t that what’s been done for almost four years?
I understand that the administration can, and does, move funds around to suit its plans. Whether it could play 3-card monte with $160 billion if denied the next appropriation is another story. The way I see it is they’ll have no need to worry as long as they have a promise that Congress will “support the troops.”
In the unlikely event that Congress did shut off the money tap, I still can’t see what will become of the troops other than they’ll be brought home, just like from Vietnam. That’s my idea of “supporting the troops.”
Well said #371. This is Bush’s war.
January 7th, 2007 at 11:11 pmThis is Bush’s war.
Comment by hellinabucket
This war belongs to all those that have voted time and again to continue funding it even after all the intel came out.
January 7th, 2007 at 11:18 pmSince no one else brought it up, I’ll suggest that the reason for Democrats’ promises to keep funding the occupation is their weak-kneed fear of appearing to be “soft on defense.”
January 7th, 2007 at 11:22 pmComment by clarence the clairvoyant
Will somone please remove this a$$hole? He’s stinkin’ up the joint.
January 7th, 2007 at 11:32 pmI agree with you robert that all who have voted for the initial conflict and for continuing the blunder. But history will label this as Bush’s war and he won’t be able to change it. One of the many sad parts is that he has been a pawn for the goals of the PNAC but it will be his name plastered throughout history.
January 7th, 2007 at 11:37 pmComment by clarence the clairvoyan
Your posting must help Hillary too?
January 7th, 2007 at 11:51 pm#360
What is point of TP’s Terms of Use?
January 8th, 2007 at 12:24 am#129
What is the point of TP’s Terms of Use?
January 8th, 2007 at 12:26 am#252
What is the point of TP’s Terms of Use?
January 8th, 2007 at 12:35 am[...] Pelosi isn’t that stupid. In fact from her Face the Nation interview she explicitly stated, “If the president chooses to escalate the war, in his budget request we want to see a distinction between what is there to support the troops who are there now. The American people and the Congress support those troops. We will not abandon them.” She went on to state she supported an increase in the numbers of Army troops and Marines. That maybe the first time a Democratic leader called for a military buildup in decades. [...]
January 8th, 2007 at 1:19 am[...] STORY [...]
January 8th, 2007 at 4:32 am#381, 382, 383: What is the point of TP’s Terms of Use?
Repeated Comments by Tracy
Tracy:
For the same reason, you have not been banned for LOLing or dismissing as BS almost anything you disagree with, or specifically for calling me on certain threads “bitch” and “grammar Nazi,” among other sweet nothings. Or why Stevie has yet to be banned for comments like the following, which apparently don’t disturb you?
“Yes exactly, she is a prostitute. Just like all women who don’t have jobs and live off their husbands’ income.
I knew you were a communist who is afraid of free speech.
Change your name to tattle tail(SIC)!
I would not waste my time in the military because you and your ilk are not worth defending.”
In other words, this is a liberal/progressive site, which means it is liberal in its interpretation of its terms of usage. I wonder how long someone would last on a neo-con blog–that is the ones, that allow comments in the first place–if that person started dismissing everything he/she disagrees with as BS or began accusing other posters of being a “bitch.”
January 8th, 2007 at 6:12 amYou whine like crazy when you feel you and your side are not getting respect, but yourself show absolutely no decorum towards those with whom you disagree. You love to dish it out, but you can’t take it, can you, boy?
Pelosi and the Dems, with a few notable exceptions, will cave giving “conditional support” to the Bush plan.
January 8th, 2007 at 7:02 amThis blog is a shining example of how the terrorists, their methods and their goals of divide and conquer will prevail over the USA and it’s collective way of life. Your children are going to die at the hands of these terrorists; as you continue to fan the flame.
Comment by stevieg7000 #6
stupidg7000,
YOUR children (should you spit any out) SHOULD die for your arrogance in assuming that you have ALL the answers…
…assuming (you- your kind- “RULE” the world)…
…you want to murder, rob, dominate, and subjugate your way to prosperity…(like the racist al Crackkkers did the Native Americans)…
…well, sorry sh*thead the rest of the world has learned from YOUR (manifest destiny ridden) history…
…and those “terrorists” ain’t accepting your trinkets and blankets for their natural resources and countries’ souls any longer…
…You’re a typical al Crackker (or wannabe) who deserves to lose EVERYTHING you claim (in a later post #13) to have…
…you (and ALL like you) are disgraces to humanity, and should be exiled to your own private hells, so that you can’t do any more damage to the world…
January 8th, 2007 at 10:09 amI wonder how long someone would last on a neo-con blog–that is the ones, that allow comments in the first place–if that person started dismissing everything he/she disagrees with as BS or began accusing other posters of being a “bitch.â€
Comment by Lora #386
Lora,
Trashy’s (like ALL right wing Bushite TRAITORS’) a coward (physically and intellectually)…
…it’s “EASY” for them to sit in their nice cozy suburban cul-de-sacs (or double wides) and “BELIEVE” (then regurgitate) what their MASTERS tell them…
…don’t take them seriously as they are NOT your equal…
January 8th, 2007 at 10:23 am[...] Yesterday Nancy Pelosi announced that congress would not fund an escalation without a justification. This is great news for the Iraqi people who have suffered a deadly second half of 2006 with 17,310 Iraqi civilians falling. An escalation is simply not a change of course and congress should refuse to fund it. Thank you Nancy Pelosi for standing up to this administration. [...]
January 8th, 2007 at 12:14 pmSo who died and made her boss. If she wants to do something important. stop all the illegal immigration from Mexico as a start!
January 8th, 2007 at 1:25 pm[...] Yen goes on to report House Speaker (yah!) Nancy Pelosi’s announcement that Congress might not approve funds for military escalation in Iraq, and that Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader (yay!) Harry Reid sent a letter to Bush last week that said it was time to begin withdrawing troops from Iraq. [...]
January 8th, 2007 at 3:22 pm“Yes, one big difference between the House of Saud and Stalin is that women could have jobs and co-education under Stalin….†Lora
******Well Lora, I suppose an equal education and employment platform wipes out 20 million dead Russians
*******Lora conveniently missed the mark when responding to the fact above – and you got a B in History?? Talk about grade inflation – you deserve a D-.
January 8th, 2007 at 4:39 pmIt sucks to be me. So uniformed, so angry, so confused…
This describes you UNBELIEVABLE to a T!!!!!
January 8th, 2007 at 4:46 pmSo who died and made her boss. If she wants to do something important. stop all the illegal immigration from Mexico as a start!
I agree 100% with you. Tell that BITCH, Nancy Pelosi with her San Francisco VALUES — Evil and Immoral…. to do something to STOP all the Illegal Immigrants from walking across the Mexican Border. No, she won’t do that because she is probably hiring them to work in her Hotel and Vineyard in NAPA VALLEY!!!!! Talk about a HYPOCRITE!!!!!
January 8th, 2007 at 4:50 pmAn escalation is simply not a change of course and congress should refuse to fund it. Thank you Nancy Pelosi for standing up to this administration.
Nancy Pelosi has about as much power to stop the funding of the War in Iraq as I do…. She is ALL talk and NO SHOW!!!! Tell her to save all of her HOT AIR for someone who cares what she thinks…. Her and her ilk in San Francisco — SIN CITY!!!!!
January 8th, 2007 at 4:53 pmWe gave Bush a blank check three years ago and he’s just made a mess of historic proportions. Time to cut up the credit card.
This is typical thinking of your Left Wing Liberal Communist…. Just GIVE UP and RUN FOR THE EXISTS when the going gets tough…. Liberals are the most narrow minded people I have had the misfortune to ever come into contact with…. You need to buy Ann Coulter’s book on “How to talk to a Liberal — IF YOU HAVE TO”. They ALL have Selective Amnesia……
January 8th, 2007 at 4:56 pmThe terrorists are emboldened by the mid-term elections and an outcome in which they believe was a victory for them. Watching Pelosi being sworn in serves to create more hatred for America and it’s collective way of life. The terrorists DO NOT respect her as a leader; they see her as a weakness of the USA. I’m sure hearing her cackle surrounded by a bunch of children really instilled fear in the hearts of the terrorists. This blog is a shining example of how the terrorists, their methods and their goals of divide and conquer will prevail over the USA and it’s collective way of life. Your children are going to die at the hands of these terrorists; as you continue to fan the flame. While all of you waste your time pounding meaningless words which will NEVER EVER CHANGE ONE THING, the terrorists are plotting a way to kill you and your children. Your collective ignorance is very scary and I’m glad I did not bring children into this world…..Here is a riddle: Was there more violence and death in IRAQ or California in 2005. The answer is CALIFORNIA!
Thank you Steveng7000…. At least your one of the few people here with some common sense and intelligence…. To HELL with ALL you Left Wing Liberal Communists!!!!!!
January 8th, 2007 at 5:00 pmGood point hellinabucket. The new Demo Congress is 72 hours old and we will finally see change. Watch for Rep. Henry Waxman to demand accountability for how our funds have been spent in Iraq. Watch for emboldened Democrats to cut funds for Bush’s plan to escalate the War unless he can justify the mission.
January 8th, 2007 at 5:14 pmWell Lora, I suppose an equal education and employment platform wipes out 20 million dead Russians
*******Lora conveniently missed the mark when responding to the fact above – and you got a B in History?? Talk about grade inflation – you deserve a D-.
Comment by mighty hypocrite
F for shooting, MIghtette. I didn’t even address the issue. I offered a different , more recent comparison.
January 8th, 2007 at 5:36 pmBTW, you have contradicted yourself with the following quotes (about Arabs):
cultures who(SIC) haven’t discovered the wheel and in the next you’re forgetting 50 years of history…..(didn’t do well in history, huh?)
****** I think we should up end(SIC) them from those modern contraptions (known as Mercedes Benz) and assist them back to their rightful “ships of the desertâ€.
It seems to me that if the (wealthy) Arabs are driving Mercedes Benzes, they might have noticed wheels.
“Upend” is one word, and “who” is supposed to used in reference only to animate subjects like human beings and possibly intelligent animals. Bad grades in high school English, eh?
Lora,
Trashy’s (like ALL right wing Bushite TRAITORS’) a coward (physically and intellectually)…
…it’s “EASY†for them to sit in their nice cozy suburban cul-de-sacs (or double wides) and “BELIEVE†(then regurgitate) what their MASTERS tell them…
…don’t take them seriously as they are NOT your equal…
Comment by big papa
Thanks for the kind words, big papa, and don’t worry. When trolls at the low level of Tracy, Mightette Aphid, etc. start insulting me, I know it’s because they’ve exhausted even their neo-con talking points and are reacting as the reactionaries they are.
January 8th, 2007 at 5:45 pm#384
You pointing out that me not being banned for something that just about EVERYONE including yourself, engages in doesn’t answer my question.
“Or why Stevie has yet to be banned for comments like the following, which apparently don’t disturb you?”
I just now read it, so in that case I am saying it now….I don’t like it and I would ask him, what he thinks the point of TP’s Term of Use is.
“or specifically for calling me on certain threads “bitch—
You are going to have to cite that post.
“In other words, this is a liberal/progressive site, which means it is liberal in its interpretation of its terms of usage.”
Which means if you are liberal you are free to insult others, use profanity, and threaten others without anyone that agrees with you calling you on it or condemning you for doing it.
“I wonder how long someone would last on a neo-con blog–that is the ones,…”
They would probably be banned or warned by the mediator for doing it but that just isn’t the case with TP because their Terms of Use are meaningless.
“You whine like crazy when you feel you and your side are not getting respect, but yourself show absolutely no decorum towards those with whom you disagree. You love to dish it out, but you can’t take it, can you, boy?”
Then since you don’t show any decorum either towards others you disagree with then I guess we are all equal.
January 8th, 2007 at 7:37 pm#387
“Trashy’s (like ALL right wing Bushite TRAITORS’) a coward (physically and intellectually)…”
But can easily take you on or out…which ever you prefer.
“…don’t take them seriously as they are NOT your equal…”
Lora obviously takes me too seriously, because eventhough she says she won’t respond to my posts…she does repeatedly.
January 8th, 2007 at 7:47 pmTracy,
January 8th, 2007 at 8:00 pmYou obviously don’t remember, but you called me a “bitch” on an old thread about a proposal by Rep. Markey (D-MA) for port security being voted down by the Repugs in the House.
It’s also strange that you didn’t notice any of Stevie’s many, many abusive posts on this thread until I pointed it out.
I don’t use profanity here, though I’ve been tempted at times, and I doubt that you can find a case where I have. I don’t like it either when some of the liberal/progressive posters here get into vulgar name-calling, but I don’t run this site. I also don’t like the way you are always LOLing with an air of superiority or dismissing things you don’t agree with as BS. Implementing the 9/11 commission’s recommendations, raising the minimum wage, lowering the interest rate on student loans, stem cell research, etc. (Pelosi’s 100 hour agenda) as well as Markey’s proposal for port security are all mere BS to you. About the only things you seem to support are endless war and warantless domestic spying, even though the administration doesn’t even have enough people proficient in Arabic to translate the intercepted calls. Great values!
Finally, I have shown much more decorum than you anytime anywhere.
Lora obviously takes me too seriously, because eventhough she says she won’t respond to my posts…she does repeatedly.
Comment by Tracy
No, Tracy, I don’t take you seriously; I simply respond so that you might not think that you have stumped me. You never have, nor have you won any arguments here.
January 8th, 2007 at 8:07 pmAnd, BTW, boy, you have just called me several times on another thread a “low-class individual.” Oh, yes, only Tracy and right-wing trolls are allowed to use abusive language and insults. As we say in Japanese, è²´æ–¹ã¯é˜¿å‘†ã§å½å–„者ã§ã™ã€‚
I should have added to #403, and ã•ã‚ˆã†ãªã‚‰ã€é¦¬é¹¿ï¼
January 8th, 2007 at 8:15 pm#403
“I simply respond so that you might not think that you have stumped me.”
No you don’t like me calling you out, because if you didn’t take me seriously you wouldn’t keep responding to my posts even though you say you won’t….many times I might add.
“And, BTW, boy, you have just called me several times on another thread a “low-class individual.—
And? I am not the one who is denying that they have intentionally insulted others. BTW what does that have to do with the following….
“Which means if you are liberal you are free to insult others, use profanity, and threaten others without anyone that agrees with you calling you on it or condemning you for doing it.”
BTW check this thead out and tell me what you think of #42.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/08/geraldo-wants-to-fight-keith-olbermann/#comment-1412317
January 8th, 2007 at 11:03 pm#402
Again you are going to have to cite it because the only one I ever remember calling a “bitch” was unbelievable.
“It’s also strange that you didn’t notice any of Stevie’s many, many abusive posts on this thread until I pointed it out.”‘
I can’t go thru and read every post and if I made it a point to call out everyone, including yourself, about the insults to others that’s all I could/would be doing with my time 24/7. It’s pretty typical of this blog to be nothing but verbal vomit most of the time.
“….dismissing things you don’t agree with as BS.”
I call it BS specifically, because I don’t agree with it. BTW most of the time I call BS it isn’t about what someone here in this blog said it’s usually about what someone said in one of the articles poste by TP. If that hurts your feelings I am sorry, but as you said something to the effect…”you dish it out, but you can’t take it.”
“Implementing the 9/11 commission’s recommendations, raising the minimum wage, lowering the interest rate on student loans, stem cell research, etc. (Pelosi’s 100 hour agenda) as well as Markey’s proposal for port security are all mere BS to you.”
Considering legislation that has to do with Iraq should be #1 on her list, and nothing else, but it’s not. That’s why I called it a BS agenda.
“Finally, I have shown much more decorum than you anytime anywhere.”
Whatever. I don’t hide behind other’s comments and laugh about it like a coward like you do.
January 8th, 2007 at 11:08 pmTracy,
January 8th, 2007 at 11:48 pmCan’t you read in English? I already cited it in #242, as follows, “you called me a ‘bitch’ on an old thread about a proposal by Rep. Markey (D-MA) for port security being voted down by the Repugs in the House.”
As for the 100 hr. agenda, if Iraq has something to do with the War on Terror, as you neo-cons, like to claim, then implementing the 9/11 Commission’s recommendations is connected to Iraq. Sorry, you can’t have it both ways. And, BTW, the Repugs have had over four years to deal with the War in Iraq, but you seem to think the Democrats should do everything in the first 100 hours? Give me (or give us) a break, boy.
Sorry (you can take that as apology or not), but I chuckled exactly once spontaneously at a remark written by Jane Schneider. I can’t help spontaneous laughter just as you can’t help LOLing almost all the time.
So, again, I will repeat in the Japanese you don’t believe I learned in college and graduate school, ã•ã‚ˆã†ãªã‚‰ã€é¦¬é¹¿ï¼
Then this illegal and unconstitutional war will be over
Dear David, How can this be an illegal and unconstituional war if this Resolution was passed bya majority vote in the House and the Senate as you yourself stated in message #53??? Your thinking defies all logic and common sense but this is typical of you Left Wing Narrow Minded Liberal Communists……
January 9th, 2007 at 2:23 amAn escalation is simply not a change of course and congress should refuse to fund it. Thank you Nancy Pelosi for standing up to this administration.
Nancy Pelosi has about as much power to stop the funding of the War in Iraq as I do…. She is ALL talk and NO SHOW!!!! Tell her to save all of her HOT AIR for someone who cares what she thinks…. Her and her ilk in San Francisco — SIN CITY!!!!!
January 9th, 2007 at 2:26 amGood point hellinabucket. The new Demo Congress is 72 hours old and we will finally see change. Watch for Rep. Henry Waxman to demand accountability for how our funds have been spent in Iraq. Watch for emboldened Democrats to cut funds for Bush’s plan to escalate the War unless he can justify the mission.
The 100th Congress will continue to FUND the War in Iraq as long as George W. Bush decides our troops will remain in Iraq fighting for Freedom and Democracy!!!! You Left Wing Liberal Communist will NEVER FIGHT for ANY CAUSE!!!!! Your nothing but a BUNCH of COWARDS!!!!
January 9th, 2007 at 2:29 amWatch for Rep. Henry Waxman to demand accountability for how our funds have been spent in Iraq. Watch for emboldened Democrats to cut funds for Bush’s plan to escalate the War unless he can justify the mission.
The 110th Congress will continue to FUND the War in Iraq as long as George W. Bush decides our troops will remain in Iraq fighting for Freedom and Democracy!!!! You Left Wing Liberal Communist will NEVER FIGHT for ANY CAUSE!!!!! Your nothing but a BUNCH of COWARDS!!!!
January 9th, 2007 at 2:30 amThe 110th Congress will continue to FUND the War in Iraq as long as George W. Bush decides our troops will remain in Iraq fighting for Freedom and Democracy!!!! You Left Wing Liberal Communist(SIC) will NEVER FIGHT for ANY CAUSE!!!!! Your(SIC) nothing but a BUNCH of COWARDS!!!!
Comment by Greg Nevins —
Mr. Neverland, you already lose the argument when you start accusing people to the left of you of being Communists.
January 9th, 2007 at 2:52 amMoreover, if you’re going to post the same thing twice, once in blackened letters and once in regular form, you might have also paid a bit of attention to your spelling and grammar, which are rather poor for someone who asserted on the Tony Snow thread that I don’t even have a high school diploma. (I, in fact, have graduate school degrees.) BTW, you never answered my question about where you went to school. Or again in Japanese, è²´æ–¹ã¯ã©ã“ã®å¹¼ç¨šåœ’出身ã€é˜¿å‘†æ§˜ï¼Ÿ
(I, in fact, have graduate school degrees.)
Dear Lora, your parents must be very unhappy that they wasted so much money on your secondary education since it it apparent that you turned out to be a Left Wing Liberal Dim Wit. It is no wonder because all of our Colleges and Universities are packed with these Left Wing Liberal Communist Professors, to BRAIN WASH vulnerable students like yourself… I guess you are a product of your Education….. If I were your parents I would DEMAND a FULL REFUND!!!!
I don’t have to use my education to prove tit for tat with your Narrow Minded Left Wing NUTS!!!!!
January 9th, 2007 at 4:32 amYour assumptions are wrong again, Mr. Neverneverland.
First of all, secondary education is high school. I went to a public school, which, in fact, has produced one Nobel Prize winner in the sciences. It was free, since you don’t know what secondary public education means.
I was mostly at university, which is higher–not secondary–education, smarty pants– on scholarships. Intelligent people do tend to be liberal, however your image of Ivy league universities as being a hotbed of liberalism or Communism (and you’re too stupid to understand the difference, and already lose the argument again by calling everyone here “Communist”) is all wrong. In the field of East Asian studies, there were some very conservative professors–particularly on the Chinese side, professors whose families had left the mainland after the Communist takeover and certainly not sympathetic to the Maoists. Why don’t you ask the US government,which, under a Republican president, awarded me one of only eight Fulbright Fellowships in the field of East Asian studies to get a refund?
As for parents, my father was probably more leftwing than I am, my mother about the same. I had a Republican stepfather, who would most likely not be registered GOP today. He was a chemist and a conservationist, and the current G(reedy)O(ld)P(erverts) are too anti-science and anti-environment.
You obviously don’t have the education to do a tit-for-tat.
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Note to the Administrators:
January 9th, 2007 at 5:44 amI think this troll has gone way beyond your Terms of Use agreement, and should be banned henceforth.
Is that Nancy Pelosi or Norma Desmond? I can’t tell them apart. “I’m ready for my close up.”
January 9th, 2007 at 11:14 amRe: steveng7000
“…and I’m glad I did not bring children into this world…..”
and we are all the lesser for that, stevie.
This is probably the wrong blog to be trolling for a mate though.
January 9th, 2007 at 3:16 pmre: Lora: response to Nevins
Very well stated. Im sure Nevins is frantically visiting thesaurus.com for a response – Hirsute features crumpling in consternation over the grown up words he finds there..
Go back to poking twigs into termite mounds, Greg, you will be surprised and pleased by what attaches itself to the twig.
January 9th, 2007 at 3:32 pmIs that Nancy Pelosi or Norma Desmond? I can’t tell them apart. “I’m ready for my close up.â€
Comment by Kevin
You must live in a fantasyland if you can’t tell the difference between a real person (Pelosi) and a character in a 1950s movie. Get to a shrink soon.
January 9th, 2007 at 5:32 pm#407
“I already cited it in #242, as follows, “you called me a ‘bitch’ on an old thread about a proposal by Rep. Markey (D-MA) for port security being voted down by the Repugs in the House.—
Then post the link to the thread. I have no way to verify what you claim especially since your word isn’t worth much. Remember since you don’t do what you say you will do, I have to have something other than your word.
“As for the 100 hr. agenda, if Iraq has something to do with the War on Terror, as you neo-cons, like to claim, then implementing the 9/11 Commission’s recommendations is connected to Iraq.”
“Sorry, you can’t have it both ways.”
When did I say it wasn’t? You need to read my posts again, because I never said that the 9/11 Commission recommendations were not connected to the war in Iraq.
“And, BTW, the Repugs have had over four years to deal with the War in Iraq, but you seem to think the Democrats should do everything in the first 100 hours?”
No, I understand they are incapable of doing everthing in the first 100 hours, but again I was pointing out that it’s pretty sad that implimenting those 9/11 Commission recommendations aren’t at the very top of the list for the dems, considering they ran on pointing out the failures of the Bush Iraq policy.
“Sorry (you can take that as apology or not), but I chuckled exactly once spontaneously at a remark written by Jane Schneider.”
I do take it as an apology. Thank you. Why was that so hard for you to do?
January 9th, 2007 at 7:57 pm#413
Please don’t start sounding like that other jerks in this blog that do nothing but insult others. It’s not helpful, especially when they will call you on it by asking the administrators to ban you, even though you could go thru EVERY thread and find violator doing the same thing….easily.
January 9th, 2007 at 8:05 pm#419
“As for the 100 hr. agenda, if Iraq has something to do with the War on Terror, as you neo-cons, like to claim, then implementing the 9/11 Commission’s recommendations is connected to Iraq.â€
When did I say it wasn’t?
Comment by Tracy
Yes, but you wrote that the first 100-hour agenda is BS because it has nothing to do with Iraq, didn’t you? Please stop arguing in circles.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:45 amFor the record, you took longer to apologize for the “your grammer sucks” remark, and now you’re repeatedly calling me a “coward” and “low-class individual” on another thread.
I don’t care whether you take my word for it or not. I remember it and even which thread it appeared on, so I’m not going to look it up for you. I have better things to do, particularly since you are now simply resorting to other insults. So ã•ã‚ˆã†ãªã‚‰ã€‚
(I, in fact, have graduate school degrees.)
Dear Lora, your parents must be very unhappy that they wasted so much money on your secondary education since it it apparent that you turned out to be a Left Wing Liberal Dim Wit. It is no wonder because all of our Colleges and Universities are packed with these Left Wing Liberal Communist Professors, to BRAIN WASH vulnerable students like yourself… I guess you are a product of your Education….. If I were your parents I would DEMAND a FULL REFUND!!!!
January 10th, 2007 at 4:25 amMr. Neverland,
You have a very poor memory. You posted the exact same message in #413 as in #422. Or do you think posting the same blather twice will make the message more effective? So here is my reply to you in #414 again:
Your assumptions are wrong again,
Mr. Neverneverland.
First of all, secondary education is high school. I went to a public school, which, in fact, has produced one Nobel Prize winner in the sciences. It was free, since you don’t know what secondary public education means.
I was mostly at university, which is higher–not secondary–education, smarty pants– on scholarships. Intelligent, well-educated people do tend to be liberal, however your image of Ivy league universities as being a hotbed of liberalism or Communism (and you’re too stupid to understand the difference, and already lose the argument again by calling everyone here “Communistâ€) is all wrong. In the field of East Asian studies, there were some very conservative professors–particularly on the Chinese side, professors whose families had left the mainland after the Communist takeover and certainly not sympathetic to the Maoists. Why don’t you ask the US government,which, under a Republican president, awarded me one of only eight Fulbright Fellowships in the field of East Asian studies, to get a refund?
As for parents, my father was probably more leftwing than I am, my mother about the same as I (and definitely not pro-Communist). I had a Republican stepfather, who would most likely not be registered GOP today. He was a chemist and a conservationist, and the current G(reedy)O(ld)P(erverts) would be too anti-science and anti-environment for his liking. Moreover, both of my parents and my stepfather certainly would have been very disappointed if I had turned out a narrow-minded bigot like you.
You obviously don’t have the education to do a tit-for-tat.
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Note to the Administrators:
January 10th, 2007 at 6:23 amI think this troll has gone way beyond your Terms of Use agreement, and should be banned henceforth. Moreover, he is posting the same insulting message twice.
Moreover, both of my parents and my stepfather certainly would have been very disappointed if I had turned out a narrow-minded bigot.
Why Lora, you did turn out to be a Little Left Wing Narrow Minded Communist Party Member!!!! You are evidently one of those Demented DEMONcrats…… I can only Pity you and all the rest of your Party Members.
January 10th, 2007 at 7:22 pmMr. Neverneverland,
January 10th, 2007 at 7:45 pmI am not and never have been a Communist Party member, 阿呆ï¼ã€€ã€€I don’t need pity from a pitiful jerk like you, 阿呆ï¼
#421
“Yes, but you wrote that the first 100-hour agenda is BS because it has nothing to do with Iraq, didn’t you?”
From #406:
“Considering legislation that has to do with Iraq should be #1 on her list, and nothing else, but it’s not. That’s why I called it a BS agenda.”
“For the record, you took longer to apologize for the “your grammer sucks†remark”
For the correct record, not yours, I apologized in post #255 of this thread on Jan. 8, 2007 @12:05 a.m.:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/05/senators-wrong-iraq/#comment-1424559
…which was well before you apologized to me on Jan. 8, 2007 @11:48 p.m. in this thread.
“I have better things to do, particularly since you are now simply resorting to other insults.”
After looking at your past history in regards to this….no you don’t.
January 10th, 2007 at 7:55 pmTracy,
January 10th, 2007 at 9:13 pmIt was way back in November that you wrote that my “grammer(SIC) sucks” and took issue with my (correct) use of “as” to start a sentence. It took you nearly two months to apologize. What did I take? A week or so?
And do you really want this to go on forever and ever? I don’t.
Ps. to #424: Mr. Neverneverland,
January 10th, 2007 at 9:16 pmYou already lose any argument when you keep on calling a patriotic member of the majority party in both houses of Congress a “Communist.” (Of course, you don’t even know the difference between higher and secondary education, so maybe it’s too much to expect you to understand what a Communist really is.) Anyway, unless you can get some new talking points, don’t expect further replies. ã‚ã°ã‚ˆã€é¦¬é¹¿ï¼
Actually, it didn’t take all that much time to do a search on TP concerning Rep. Markey, and here are your words Tracy in reference to #137 (Lora):
January 11th, 2007 at 2:28 am“#137
And a bitch like yourself isn’t worth anymore of my time either.
Comment by Tracy ”
Has your memory been refreshed now?
#429
OK, so since you called me a Bush shill you don’t think that is worth an apology from you?
January 11th, 2007 at 7:22 pm#427
What was the thead regarding back in November? I will do the searching.
January 11th, 2007 at 7:23 pmForget it already, Tracy. Let’s move on.
January 11th, 2007 at 9:08 pm#432
No problem, just please refrain from throwing out the insults first and I won’t have to return fire.
January 12th, 2007 at 3:51 pm[...] In fact, Pelosi said nothing of the sort on Good Morning America. She merely repeated her stated view that she does not support cutting funds to U.S. forces already in Iraq. [...]
January 19th, 2007 at 7:59 pmI’m so glad for websites like this. It gives such a nice cross-section of all the closed-minded hate mongers in our country. I feel much stupider for having posted here.
February 8th, 2007 at 7:07 pm