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Snow Claims Midterm Elections Showed Americans Aren’t Concerned About Iraq

tonysnows.jpg In today’s press briefing, White House Press Secretary Tony Snow tried to argue that the Nov. 7 midterm elections could be read as a mandate for President Bush to increase U.S. troops in Iraq:

QUESTION: Tony, the president obviously, though, did not read what happened November 7th as a mandate to start bringing troops home.

SNOW: The president believes that — if you take a look at the elections, you can read any number of messages. I mean, when people were asked in exit interviews what was their top concern, Iraq was number four; corruption was number one.

No results from the midterm elections pointed to the American public calling for an escalation of U.S. troops in Iraq. A CNN poll taken days after the election found that just 16 percent of the American public believed the President should increase U.S. troops in Iraq. In contrast, 60 percent wanted some or all troops withdrawn.

As ABC News noted, the midterm elections showed that the “war in Iraq is a serious concern.” Fifty-seven percent of voters said that they disapproved of Bush’s handling of the war.



247 Responses to “Snow Claims Midterm Elections Showed Americans Aren’t Concerned About Iraq”

  1. ForTruth says:

    Pursed lips, I hate it…


  2. Juan C says:

    Calm down, people. He is Tony Snow.


  3. oldtree says:

    You all didn’t mean to print a story that wasn’t true…….
    am sure you didn’t intend to print such a bold faced……..
    no.
    no way.
    you aren’t kidding?
    this is for real? guess that means………

    alice, move over. tony is coming to get a hit with johnny on the hookah. help him out a bit when he arrives. he is having a very bad time today


  4. hellinabucket says:

  5. Marie says:

    Snowjob is spinning so much now, he is the White House whirling dervish.


  6. ForTruth says:

    Old Tree,

    Kinda looks like Tony’s already holdin’ in his first hit off that hookah.


  7. JaneESchneider says:

    OMFG, all the lyingbastardometers must be going off in DC!


  8. JohnM says:

    And this surprises who? In 2000 I voted for Gore and then when W was appointed, I naively assumed that losing the popular vote, most likely the electoral vote and being APPOINTED by the Supreme Court, W would have to basically “tread water” for four years. No mandate logically would mean no major shifts in any policy. Boy was I WRONG.

    W doesn’t believe in anything except his absolute grasp for power. Why does it surprise anyone that an actual, proven defeat (at least his 2nd and I believe his 3rd) slow him down?

    Impeach (in this order) Cheney then Bush (must be done withing hours to prevent him from appointing a new VP).

    JohnM
    USAF,RET


  9. Jake says:

    I don’t see in your small transcript where Tony Snow tried to argue that the Nov. 7 midterm elections could be read as a mandate for President Bush to increase U.S. troops in Iraq. Is there more to the transcript or maybe there is some video that would show that he indeed tried to argue that point?


  10. Joe Sixpack says:

    SNOW: The president believes that — if you take a look at the elections, you can read any number of messages.

    Well, Tony, one message is loud and clear: the people are certainly tired of juniors flaky sh*t.


  11. Ben says:

    Wow. You have got to be kidding. Does this guy have any credibility left? They should institute a credibility rating (CR) for every public figure on TV. Then display it as the person speaks.

    Snow (CR .75)
    Powell (CR 7.25)
    Kristol (CR 0.0)
    Gannon/Guckert (CR 0.0)
    Jim Lehrer (CR 9.25)


  12. hellinabucket says:

    SNOW: The president believes that — if you take a look at the elections, you can read any number of messages

    Like puppies should be the number one pet. I mean just look at them. And the latest elections show how much you all support Condi Rice. Cute in a suit. And some of the time you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at them right.


  13. joeslogic says:

    True the Dems performed pitifully considering history. For a party out of power in both the houses they took fewer seats than average. This shows how disgusted the American public is with the Democrats and at that they were running on a conservative ticket. So far there actions have not held up to the image they portrayed while campaigning.


  14. RUCerious says:

    OK, fine, he didn’t get the message as every change of seat went from Republican (OUT) to Democrat (IN)
    Here’s the message chymp.
    Yuck Fou!


  15. tarazan says:

    He is known as Whit House Presse Secretary who speaks in behalf of the White House…but I did not know that he is also a spokesman for American voter…!!


  16. RUCerious says:

    Jane, my WTF-Incredulometer is also bouncing around out of control, putting holes in the drywall!!!


  17. DieNowForPeace says:

    Without so much corruption, we wouldn’t be in Iraq.

    I agree.


  18. Tuber says:

    DING DING DING!

    Yes, “joeslogic” wins the prize today for the “Pulling it out of your a$$ and seeing if anyone will go for it” comment of the day. Because, according to “joe”, the sweep in the November elections for the Democrats that allowed them to gain majorities in the House and Senate for the first time in 12 years was actually…wait for it…a WIN by the Republicans and a sign that the public is “disgusted” with Dems.

    Someone was talking about a hooka, I think that “joe” is bogarting it.


  19. Tau says:

    Nick Knack Paddywhack
    Snow job comes rolling home!


  20. JaneESchneider says:

    RUCerious, mine felt it here in New York!


  21. Tau says:

    Ya know, Herman Meunster would be proud of that forehead, if only he had a few neck bolts and a green tint.

    I feel a caption contest ah coming.


  22. unbelievable says:

    Be nice to Tony, he did have that double lobotomy required to take this job…. The drooling and inane babble are just side effects.


  23. VerbalKint says:

    Comment by joeslogic — January 8, 2007 @ 5:30 pm

    There is logic, and there is joeslogic, and never the twain shall meet.



  24. Gregor Samsa says:

    if you take a look at the elections, you can read any number of messages.

    Yeah, Tony, and if you are insane enough you could read that the American voters support Pres Bush’s policies and the Republican party 100%. But that is not what an honest look at the elections would reveal.

    Wow. There is no end to the self-delusion prevalent in the White House nowadays. Simply astounding.


  25. Tau says:

    caption contest:
    “If you ask me one more hard question, why I am, I am gonna, I am gonna start pouting!”


  26. Not Dick but Richard says:

    Tony needs to adjust his Meds.

    Really this is just another Rightwing Spin Job. Limbaugh and Hannity were all over this after the election. They were saying the public was tired of the out of control spending and it had nothing to do with the war. blah blah blah


  27. Jake says:

    Tuber must be the subby for this post since the subby reads way more into what Tony Snow said than was actually said, and Tuber seems to read way more into joeslogic’s post than is actually there.


  28. unbelievable says:

    True the Dems performed pitifully considering history. For a party out of power in both the houses they took fewer seats than average.

    They kicked ass… There was definitely nothing average about that!

    This shows how disgusted the American public is with the Democrats and at that they were running on a conservative ticket.

    You’ve gotta be deeply in denial to even type such an absurd comment.

    Didn’t Bill O’Reilly call Nancy Pelosi an extreme liberal? What’s conservative about that?

    So far there actions have not held up to the image they portrayed while campaigning.
    Comment by joeslogic — January 8, 2007 @ 5:30 pm

    You expect a lot from people on the job less than a week. Odd considering you didn’t expect a fraction as much from the Republicans during the entire week they actually did any work in 2006…

    But actually, you’re about to see them earn their paycheckas as the investigations into White House corrpution have already begun. Sounds like people doing exactly what they were hired to do to me…


  29. Beverly S. Hill says:

    Where can I get some of what this guy is smoking??????????


  30. joeslogic says:

    LESS THAN AVERAGE what more can I say? There is always a natural balance that goes on. But this cycle the Dems had more going for them than ever. Almost total media support behind the dems. They were out of power and got to take advantage of spoiling war strategy with (TOTALLY UN-PROSECUTED LEAKS of confidential information). Absolutely no repercussions for doing so from 98 percent of the media. And with that huge massive propaganda machine. They took …… what did they take? ….. Anybody know? ….. L E S S T H A N A V E R A G E.


  31. Gregor Samsa says:

    This shows how disgusted the American public is with the Democrats and at that they were running on a conservative ticket.
    Comment by joeslogic — January 8, 2007 @ 5:30 pm

    If the American public is so thoroughly disgusted with the Democratic party that they voted Democratic candidates into office -what does it say about their feelings for Republican candidates, who couldn’t muster enough votes to remain in office?

    What utter absurdity, and what a ridiculous proposition: Victory is defeat, and reaping votes reveals a lack of popular support. Puh-leeze.


  32. GSD says:

    One message was unmistakeable. Bush is a loser and America is tired of him and his lying enablers, like Tony Snow.

    -GSD


  33. unbelievable says:

    LESS THAN AVERAGE what more can I say?
    Comment by joeslogic — January 8, 2007 @ 5:49 pm

    How about saying nothing more?

    Thanks


  34. unbelievable says:

    I don’t think joeslogic realizes that it was a mid-term election and that not everyone was up for a vote… Otherwise it would have been really even uglier for the Repugs…


  35. joeslogic says:

    RE: unbelievable # 29

    Less than average is not kicking anything really.

    Open your eyes I’m not talking about the election of Nancy Pelosi but since you bring it up she did run more conservative then her historic voting record. Those of us insightful enough to pay attention noticed her conservative posing

    You can keep on saying it but that does not make it so. Saying it over and over does manage to influence the naive and the weak. But those who know better are just more emboldened to hold their ground on what they know is right.


  36. Gregor Samsa says:

    I am surprised that some people attach so much importance to THE average. After all, it is just that: An average. Half of the results will be below it, and the other half above it.

    But I guess this as good an excuse as any other for some people to cling on to their self-delusions.


  37. Daryll says:

    As long as you liberals leave the borders open then Tony Snow’s statement is correct.


  38. Tau says:

    True the Dems performed pitifully considering history. -Joes Logic

    Yeh Imagine that, the neo-cons spent tens of millions on smear campaigns, outright fabrications, phone jamming, bogus flyers and still couldn’t win because America had become so disgusted with their Value Voter and Moral Majority tactics and of course corruption.

    I am a Christian, but Jeebus, Americans aren’t so stupid as to not see thru the turd blossoms odorous methane cloud.

    Bwahahahaha!


  39. Sharon Cox says:

    Poor snow job, he can’t help it, he’s turned into a slow leaker….Just like a tire he will be totaly flat soon…I wonder what would happen if the press decided not to show up for one of his snow job’s?..Blessings


  40. JaneESchneider says:

    You can keep on saying it but that does not make it so. Saying it over and over does manage to influence the naive and the weak. But those who know better are just more emboldened to hold their ground on what they know is right.

    Comment by joeslogic — January 8, 2007 @ 5:56 pm

    Hmmm, that’s exactly what voters said to Bush and the republicans!


  41. Tau says:

    As long as you liberals leave the borders open then Tony Snow’s statement is correct.
    Comment by Daryll

    The Amnesty plan was the Republicans Darryl, back from 2004, remember?


  42. unbelievable says:

    Less than average is not kicking anything really.

    Average is 50%. In oder to be the majority, the Dems had to have MORE THAN 50%. I repeat – nothing average about it.

    Open your eyes I’m not talking about the election of Nancy Pelosi but since you bring it up she did run more conservative then her historic voting record. Those of us insightful enough to pay attention noticed her conservative posing

    The day I opened my eyes I left the Republican Party and became a liberal.

    She didn’t run as anything different that usual. I used to live in San Francisco and she was my Representative.

    You can keep on saying it but that does not make it so. Saying it over and over does manage to influence the naive and the weak. But those who know better are just more emboldened to hold their ground on what they know is right.
    Comment by joeslogic — January 8, 2007 @ 5:56 pm

    You’re the only one repeating himself…


  43. JaneESchneider says:

    #28, no, Tuber got it exactly right, but I can understand how you might have trouble following joe’s “logic.” It’s Opposite Day!


  44. Tau says:

    Saying it over and over does manage to influence the naive and the weak. -Joes Logic

    You mean like Stay the Course? Or Moral Majority?

    Can you say culture of corruption?


  45. mighty aphrodite says:

    Amanda notes “No results from the midterm elections pointed to the American public calling for an escalation of U.S. troops in Iraq.” NOTE to Amanda – - Snow did NOT say the American public were wanting more troops in Iraq. He DID note that the Dems successfully pushed the “Culture of Corruption” ad campaign……


  46. JaneESchneider says:

    Where can I get some of what this guy is smoking??????????

    Comment by Beverly S. Hill — January 8, 2007 @ 5:49 pm

    Beverly, even if we could get some, we probably couldn’t afford it! ;-)


  47. unbelievable says:

    As long as you liberals leave the borders open then Tony Snow’s statement is correct.
    Comment by Daryll — January 8, 2007 @ 6:00 pm

    Your guys were in control of every branch of government for the last 6 years. If the board situation is a problem for you, I suggest you look in the mirror.

    Jesus, really, the Dems have been in control of Congress for less than a week and you’re expecting more from them that you did your own party over the course of 6 years… Talk about delusional…


  48. Pete_Bogs says:

    indeed… Republicant corruption…


  49. Sharon Cox says:

    Caption contest..
    No matter what
    you say, you won’t make me cry..Waaa.


  50. chimpeach says:

    #13 joeslogic

    Wow! That’s mighty impressive, Joe. You went through so many contortions to come up with that explanation, you probably wouldn’t be able to re-trace your steps. Now if you can do it with a semi-straight face, you might be next in line for Tony’s job. Just remember–it doesn’t matter if nobody believes you. Just stick by your story no matter how silly it sounds.


  51. Charlie C says:

    Snow and the Administration..are so F**king..”Full of B.S.!” They all seriously on Cocaine, Downers, or Whatever..and “THEY ARE THE MOST DANGEROUS REGIME”..SINCE THE 3RD REICH!

    Charlie C.
    Dallas TX


  52. Lora says:

    I don’t think joeslogic realizes that it was a mid-term election and that not everyone was up for a vote… Otherwise it would have been really even uglier for the Repugs…
    Comment by unbelievable

    You are quite correct, unbelievable. In the Senate, only 1/3 of the seats were up for re-election. If they were all up for re-releciton, the Repugs would certainly have lost more. Moreover, although the Democrats gained only a bare majority this time, they generally represent the most populous states, and, taken as a whole, a much larger majority of the American public. (In fact, even when they were down to 45 seats in the Senate, the states they represented accounted for a larger percentage of the American population than those with Repug Senators.)

    There is truth in VerbalKint’s comment,
    “There is logic, and there is joeslogic, and never the twain shall meet.”


  53. RUCerious says:

    Somehow I always think of Joe as a clod with a last name of slogic.


  54. unbelievable says:

    Caption contest..
    No matter what
    you say, you won’t make me cry..Waaa.
    Comment by Sharon Cox — January 8, 2007 @ 6:07 pm

    LOL!


  55. Tau says:

    Snow did NOT say the American public were wanting more troops in Iraq. He DID note that the Dems successfully pushed the “Culture of Corruption” ad campaign……

    Comment by mighty aphrodite

    It wasn’t a smear campaign however. Truth does hurt.


  56. Gregor Samsa says:

    Daryll,

    Me thinks “corruption was number one” means voters were concerned about the following scandals: Randy Cunningham, Tom Delay, Mark Foley, Bob Ney, Jack Abramoff, Michael Scanlon, David Safavian, Bill Frist, Curt Weldon, etc.

    What does that have to do with any border whatsoever? Plus, if those open borders bother you so much… you know who kept them open for the past six years.


  57. trueblue says:

    As long as you liberals leave the borders open then Tony Snow’s statement is correct.
    Comment by Daryll

    The Amnesty plan was the Republicans Darryl, back from 2004, remember?

    Comment by Tau —

    Don’t forget the Amnesty signed by Ronnie Reagan in 1986.


  58. unbelievable says:

    Somehow I always think of Joe as a clod with a last name of slogic.
    Comment by RUCerious — January 8, 2007 @ 6:11 pm

    Me too… Joe Slogic :)


  59. Tau says:

    Don’t forget the Amnesty signed by Ronnie Reagan in 1986.

    Comment by trueblue

    Thanks true =)


  60. joeslogic says:

    You expect a lot from people on the job less than a week. Odd considering you didn’t expect a fraction as much from the Republicans during the entire week they actually did any work in 2006…

    Glad you brought that up because looks like they have already broke their campaign vow about a five day work week.

    WEAK VERY VERY WEAK…….. hold on …..that’s it! They vowed to “work weak!” Right!

    But actually, you’re about to see them earn their paycheckas as the investigations into White House corrpution have already begun. Sounds like people doing exactly what they were hired to do to me…

    You know I would hope that would be the case but I really cannot see it happening. I mean really it is absurd the most corrupt party and you know there are a lot of people that are snowballed into believing the Dems are ethical. But really now come on. Harry Reid, Murtha, Jefferson. for starters just look at those four. It is going to look pretty hypocritical isn’t it? Especially when the radio media gets the truth out enough that people start asking (on a large scale) what is the televised media not letting us what talk radio is? A little confusing for people “how can it be?” they will ask. Katie Curic goes out of her way to wipe the perky smile of for a few seconds to tell America about something so concerning to her that she jus must frown just to say it and proceed to spout off these “new alligations that have prompted the Democrats to call for an investigation into …… republican …..blah blah blah.but the rumor mill around the water cooler is that there was and is much worse going on inside the Democrat party. We are so confused now which is the truth?

    Fact is if they bog the system down with trials and investigations that in turn cause dreadlock, weaken security, and weaken the economy. It will be the Dems that pay in 2008. Multiply that twofold if They go after “W”.


  61. unbelievable says:

    In the Senate, only 1/3 of the seats were up for re-election.
    Comment by Lora — January 8, 2007 @ 6:09 pm

    Excellent points Lora… I’m sure each and everyone will escape Joe as well :)


  62. mighty_aphrodite_is_a_complete_dumba$$ says:

    “He DID note that the Dems successfully pushed the “Culture of Corruption” ad campaign…… Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 8, 2007 @ 6:07 pm”

    And you dumba$$e$ ran exclusively on the *stay the curse* of *iraq* and loss. And whoever says you inbred monkeys are a product of *evolution*, needs to wonder why you *never evolved*. What a complete dumba$$ you are, you stupid b!tch.


  63. mighty aphrodite says:

    Dear Tau – Come back and talk to me about the moral superiority of Dems and Progs when they vote out a corrupt Lousiana Congressman with a boatload of COLD $$$ in the freezer……Dems love corrupt Dems…….


  64. trueblue says:

    Glad to help, Tau -
    :)


  65. VerbalKint says:

    Fact is if they bog the system down with trials and investigations that in turn cause dreadlock, weaken security, and weaken the economy. It will be the Dems that pay in 2008. Multiply that twofold if They go after “W”.

    Comment by joeslogic — January 8, 2007 @ 6:15 pm

    Okay, folks, we have just been handed definitive proof that the best strategy for the Democrats is to proceed with trials and investigations, with a particularly large payoff for going after Dumbya. This is logic. The inverse of joeslogic.


  66. Friar Mynd says:

    Brother Daryll
    These secular affairs are beyond your concerns. We implore you to return to the flock and focus on your lords work.
    P.S.
    We have a message here for you from pastor Haggard, he says his “lord” misses you too…….


  67. Zooey says:

    Dems love corrupt Dems…….
    Comment by mighty aphrodite

    Damn Hagette, your stuff just doesn’t have the old sparkle. :(


  68. Joefriday says:

    Comment by joeslogic — January 8, 2007 @ 5:56 pm

    I think I git the “logic” thing now. If Ohio scores more points tonight than Florida but, NOT more than AVERAGE- Florida wins the BSC. This makes me very happy, having grown up in Miami.


  69. mighty_aphrodite_is_a_complete_dumba$$ says:

    “Dear Tau – Come back and talk to me about the moral superiority of Dems and Progs when they vote out a corrupt Lousiana Congressman with a boatload of COLD $$$ in the freezer……Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 8, 2007 @ 6:17 pm”

    You mean like the entire *dem caucus* did already? Vote him out of leadership? What a dumba$$ thing to say, after the last 12 years of the most corrupt and dishonest politicians this country has ever seen. You’re a complete fool, and a dishonest back of puke soaked scum you stupid prick.

    “Dems love corrupt Dems……. Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 8, 2007 @ 6:17 pm”

    Really funny coming from Delay and Abramoff’s favorite *b!tch* ho. You’re really one stupid dumba$$ b!tch aren’t you mighty freakface?


  70. Tau says:

    Fact is if they bog the system down with trials and investigations that in turn cause dreadlock, weaken security, and weaken the economy. It will be the Dems that pay in 2008. Multiply that twofold if They go after “W”.

    You seem to have also forget about the age of the Frozen Scandal.
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11476371/


  71. unbelievable says:

    Glad you brought that up because looks like they have already broke their campaign vow about a five day work week.

    You do realize January 1st and 2nd were GOVERNMENT HOLIDAYS, right? That leaves 4 actual work days so far…

    Things must be pretty bad for you to have to split such fine hairs…

    WEAK VERY VERY WEAK…….. hold on …..that’s it! They vowed to “work weak!” Right!

    I think you are trying to make a joke… But you don’t seem to get that you neocons have no sense of humor…

    You know I would hope that would be the case but I really cannot see it happening.

    Read the News. It already has.

    But really now come on. Harry Reid, Murtha, Jefferson. for starters just look at those four. It is going to look pretty hypocritical isn’t it? Especially when the radio media gets the truth out enough that people start asking (on a large scale) what is the televised media not letting us what talk radio is?

    The Right OWNS the MSM. It is the Right that doesn’t want the truth out… It’s why we read our news.

    We are so confused now which is the truth?

    Speak for yourself. We here aren’t confused…

    Fact is if they bog the system down with trials and investigations that in turn cause dreadlock, weaken security, and weaken the economy.

    You mean like Clinton’s blow-job Impeachment hearings?

    It will be the Dems that pay in 2008. Multiply that twofold if They go after “W”.
    Comment by joeslogic — January 8, 2007 @ 6:15 pm

    How so?

    (I just HAVE to hear this….)


  72. trueblue says:

    ONE Democrat, MA.
    ONE! Out of how many Repub’s?

    He should get any special treatment. If he’s guilty, (which I believe he is) he should go.

    See, that’s the difference between the aisles.
    We’re willing to say, “You’re out.” whereas Repub’s try to cover up and deflect and dod anything else they can to avoid accepting blame.


  73. JaneESchneider says:

    Fact is if they bog the system down with trials and investigations that in turn cause dreadlock…

    So it’ll be a bad hair day for Congress? There’s a mental image…

    Sorry…anyway…even with all the trials and investigations planned, they’ll still manage to get more done than the Republicans did. The Dems won’t waste their time and our money on stupid issues like flag burning, etc.


  74. OxyCon says:

    The 2000 & 2004 exit polls showed that Al Gore and John Kerry should have been elected President.
    Does Tony Snowjob beleive in those results?
    Or does he selectively use exit poll data when it fits his propaganda purposes?


  75. unbelievable says:

    This is logic. The inverse of joeslogic.
    Comment by VerbalKint — January 8, 2007 @ 6:20 pm

    Exactly!


  76. s says:

    Hey…joe-slogic………….you are the one confused. Speak for yourself ………the majority of Americans are now seeing through bullshit like yours very nicely thanks. And……….

    #1……….I agree. The pursed lips thing is very purposely done. These bastards not only frame language, they have agreed upon a few “tough facial looks” and I’m sure have agreed upon them in their pathetic little secret sessions. The pursed lip thing has become as obvious, ineffectiive in conveying honesty or toughness, and it is as juvenile as Joe..SLO..gic’s posts.


  77. chimpeach says:

    Fifty-seven percent of voters said that they disapproved of Bush’s handling of the war.

    Joeslogic translation: “Of course they disapproved of it. They wanted Bush to send more troops and to promise that he’d keep them there for 25 years or until every last one of them was dead, whichever comes last. But, that doesn’t mean they blame Bush for it. They know that he was forced to handle the war poorly by the liberal media and the Democrats. And Bill Clinton. If Bush is such a bad president, how come he hasn’t been impeached, yet? That proves he’s a great president.”

    Was that spinny enough for you, Joe? Or do you think you can spin it even harder than that?


  78. unbelievable says:

    Damn Hagette, your stuff just doesn’t have the old sparkle. :(
    Comment by Zooey — January 8, 2007 @ 6:21 pm

    He’s jealous that Joe Slogic is getting all the attention tonight…


  79. RUCerious says:

    Ooooh…trials and investigations…Ooooohhh.
    Ya mean, like..
    Oversight? Separation of Powers, living up to your Constitutionally mandated responsibilities?
    Just because you elephantine nitwits failed for six years doesn’t mean it’s a bad idea!


  80. Tau says:

    Dear Tau – Come back and talk to me about the moral superiority of Dems and Progs when they vote out a corrupt Lousiana Congressman with a boatload of COLD $$$ in the freezer……Dems love corrupt Dems…….

    Comment by mighty aphrodite

    Oh no you did-n jus try to there did u?!

    * Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.

    * Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys — ages ten and 12 — during a six-year period.

    * Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.

    * Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after “sexually explicit” emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.

    * Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.

    * Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.

    * Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.

    * Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.


  81. Tau says:

    So, MA, where would you like to start?


  82. Joefriday says:

    What happened to the “good ” trolls? After the November elections, all we have now is trailer trash trolls(T3).


  83. mighty aphrodite says:

    “You mean like the entire *dem caucus* did already? Vote him out of leadership?”

    *******Dear DumBa$$ – I despise corruption – I thought my former CongressCrook Cunningham should have gotten double the sentence imposed. The Dem VOTERS seem to love corruption – - if Jefferson’s opponent can’t garner votes from people who KNOW about “Frigidaire Bank and Trust” then what I said holds – Dems LOVE corrupt Dems.

    To further illustrate that this is NOT limited to as particular region: note the following name – Senator Ted “Breast Stroke” Kennedy”.


  84. gogreen says:

    Fact is if they bog the system down with trials and investigations that in turn cause dreadlock, weaken security, and weaken the economy. It will be the Dems that pay in 2008. Multiply that twofold if They go after “W”.

    Comment by joeslogic — January 8, 2007 @ 6:15 pm

    Gee, isn’t that what the rethuglican party did to the Clinton administration? And they couldn’t even convict him of anything, after spending $70M of taxpayer money on it. Bush would be a slam dunk.


  85. unbelievable says:

    “Over the next few weeks, Senate Democrats plan to hold at least 11 hearings just on Iraq. In the House, one of the Democrats’ most dogged investigators is waiting to spring his committee on a different mission — suspected government fraud.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/ s/ ap/ 20070106/ ap_on_go_co/ congress_oversight


  86. Zooey says:

    He’s jealous that Joe Slogic is getting all the attention tonight…
    Comment by unbelievable

    Awwww, Hagette is upset because s/he’s not the prettiest girl at the prom. :P


  87. mighty aphrodite says:

    Tau – funny thing about Repubs – they run them bums out of office when the sordid facts come out – Dems keep re-electing them…. Hypocrite!


  88. unbelievable says:

    What happened to the “good ” trolls? After the November elections, all we have now is trailer trash trolls(T3).
    Comment by Joefriday — January 8, 2007 @ 6:30 pm

    They voted Dem and became Progressive posters :)


  89. Tau says:

    To further illustrate that this is NOT limited to as particular region: note the following name – Senator Ted “Breast Stroke” Kennedy”.

    Comment by mighty aphrodite

    Thats all you got, some age old rehash? How about Dick DUI Dead Eye Cheney?


  90. Tau says:

    The Dem VOTERS seem to love corruption

    Haggie, your a sore winner, and an even sorer loser.


  91. chimpeach says:

    Fact is if they bog the system down with trials and investigations that in turn cause dreadlock, weaken security, and weaken the economy. It will be the Dems that pay in 2008. Multiply that twofold if They go after “W”.

    Comment by joeslogic — January 8, 2007 @ 6:15 pm

    The Republicans were able to accomplish absolutely nothing in the 109th Congress and they did it without having ANY trials or investigations of the administration. Way to go!


  92. JaneESchneider says:

    MA’s still trotting out the 30-year old “Ted Kennedy/Chappaquiddick” example. It just doesn’t get old for you, does it, mighty?


  93. RUCerious says:

    #89 – un
    Phew! I read your post and thought you said
    They voted Dem and became Progressive pastors :)


  94. gogreen says:

    #81

    And that’s just the pedophile list. The corrupt money list will be a lot longer when Jack Abramoff gets through talking, and when Dick Chency’s energy meetings are made public, and when the drug company execs have to testify under oath.

    Corruption, thy name is Republican


  95. chimpeach says:

    #83 Joefriday

    What happened to the “good ” trolls? After the November elections, all we have now is trailer trash trolls(T3).

    Yeah, but you have to admit that joeslogic is one of the most entertaining trolls we’ve had in a long time. You just don’t see spin like that every day. The guy’s a regular whirling dervish.


  96. mighty_aphrodite_is_a_complete_dumba$$ says:

    *******Dear DumBa$$ – I despise corruption – I thought my former CongressCrook Cunningham should have gotten double the sentence imposed. Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 8, 2007 @ 6:30 pm

    Really, and how about Delay? He was getting tagged for corruption for years – yet you adorable little *pet putzes* of the republican party – niet. No problemo…

    Then we have *I have a land deal* Hastert. Complete corruption – and he’s still head schmuck.

    “The Dem VOTERS seem to love corruption – - if Jefferson’s opponent can’t garner votes from people who KNOW about “Frigidaire Bank and Trust” then what I said holds – Dems LOVE corrupt Dems. Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 8, 2007 @ 6:30 pm”

    You love *dumba$$* cliches – even when they aren’t honest. What’s your point you stupid b!tch? The democrats pulled him from power, before he was convicted of anything. You and your disgusting filthy whorres *of which you seem to be the head whorre* reward your corrupt with promotions.

    You’re a disgusting case of lies, stupidity and gross negligence. Then again, you’re *gross* all over – why shouldn’t you be negligent?

    You stupid idiot and fool.

    “To further illustrate that this is NOT limited to as particular region: note the following name – Senator Ted “Breast Stroke” Kennedy”. Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 8, 2007 @ 6:30 pm”

    Oh sure thing Mister *choker* Sherwood. What a stupid cvnt you are. While you’re at it, would you care to explain *murdering* laura, and our favorite supplier of illegal goods to Iran *halliburton cheney*?

    See, you’ve got one or two *irrelevant* points, but we can keep showing what a bunch of disgraceful crooks you all are. You’re a dumba$$ fool, you stupid, stupid cvnt.


  97. unbelievable says:

    Awwww, Hagette is upset because s/he’s not the prettiest girl at the prom. :P
    Comment by Zooey — January 8, 2007 @ 6:31 pm

    Some transvesitites still look like dudes…


  98. Tau says:

    Tau – funny thing about Repubs – they run them bums out of office when the sordid facts come out – Dems keep re-electing them…. Hypocrite!
    Comment by mighty aphrodite

    Yeh, like Mark Foley, after years of covering up for him?

    Talk about Hypocrites.


  99. Tom says:

    So, MA, where would you like to start?

    Comment by Tau

    That might be game, set, and match MA. What do you think?


  100. trueblue says:

    Even older, Jane!

    It was 1969.

    All we have to do is go back a coupole of months.
    MA has to go to 1969.

    I was 3, BTW.


  101. Tau says:

    caption contest:
    ” I think I just skipped a nougat”


  102. mighty_aphrodite_is_a_complete_dumba$$ says:

    “MA’s still trotting out the 30-year old “Ted Kennedy/Chappaquiddick” example. It just doesn’t get old for you, does it, mighty? Comment by JaneESchneider — January 8, 2007 @ 6:36 pm”

    The only way these stupid cvnts can ignore relevant facts, is to bring up irrelevant out of date smears. They’ve got nothing but their bile, stupidity and ignorance to feed on – the dumba$$ morons.


  103. trueblue says:

    couple…. my fingers are angry tonight!

    :)


  104. Raven says:

    Lets not forget
    Albertoboard Gonzales
    G.Doobious Boosch’s personal defense attorney (past and present)


  105. Kevin Good says:

    Truth contains facts that can be questioned and picked apart. A big lie is a figment of imagination and the bigger the lie the more it is believed because the nonexistent fragments can’t be disproved. Corruption is a lot of big lies.


  106. ForTruth says:

    Is Hagette upset, awe, I’m gonna cry too…


  107. And You Thought REAGAN Was Stupid says:

    There is a difference between Dems and Republicans when it comes to voting their corrupt out of office. Republicans vote their most corrupt members into The White House.


  108. RUCerious says:

    MA – you should consider trading your moniker in for something a little more expressive of your posting.
    Like Mighty_Piss_Poor_excuse_for_a_troll.


  109. And You Thought REAGAN Was Stupid says:

    And, by the way, despite JoesLogic’s arguments to the contrary — which are hollow — the DEMS SPANKED THE REPUBLICANS IN NOVEMBER. THE REPUBLICANS ARE STILL SOBBING OVER THAT ONE.


  110. JTitor says:

    After watching this idiot (Snow), you need a good laugh!

    http://movies.crooksandliars.com/TDS-Kristol.wmv


  111. RUCerious says:

    caption contest ~

    Ya think anybody’ll notice my piss soaked pants??


  112. unbelievable says:

    Tau – funny thing about Repubs – they run them bums out of office when the sordid facts come out – Dems keep re-electing them…. Hypocrite!
    Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 8, 2007 @ 6:32 pm

    Another lie…

    Jefferson was never indicted, while Tom Delay who was was allowed to stay on his Committee and on the ballot. Even though he resigned, it was We the People who voted against him – not the Republican Leadership.

    Mark Foley was allowed to continue in his position despite Hastert knowing that he was diddling the under age help.

    Shall we continue or you get it yet?


  113. Xenon says:

    Snow’s lack of appreciation for the very, very obvious never ceases to amaze me.


  114. mighty aphrodite says:

    Repubs did not know the extent of Foley the Freaks perversions. But Dems in Massachusetts certainly have known about Ted “Breast Stroke” for almost 40 years……And the aptly named CongressMAN(?) Studds – re-elected (!!) AFTER the perv pedophile takes his underage lover to Europe – I can understand why YOU are a liberal – you make excuses for really hideous behaviour. Hypocrite…..


  115. Gregor Samsa says:

    they run them bums out of office when the sordid facts come out – Dems keep re-electing them…. Hypocrite!
    Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 8, 2007 @ 6:32 pm

    If I recall correctly, Bob Ney resigned after he plead guilty. He wasn’t kicked out. Tom Delay withdrew from the race, then resigned. He wasn’t kicked out. I believe they are both still Republican party members.

    At any rate, this whole thing is a distraction fom the main point: The elections are a clear indication that the electorate is finally waking up to the fact that Iraq is a disaster, and no amount of denial can hide that fact.


  116. ForTruth says:

    Caption Contest:

    Tony is intensely concentrating, he tells himself, “I’m a swallower not a spitter, I can swallow it, just try harder”


  117. mighty aphrodite says:

    unbelievable never met a Massachusetts man-slaughterer or pedophile she couldn’t like……

    Do you think Tom Delay resigned because he KNEW Repubs wanted him to stay??? You wouldn’t know the truth if it bit you in the a$$….


  118. JTitor says:

    mighty aphrodite – Drag Queen? Rove is that you? I thought your moniker was miss piggy?


  119. Lora says:

    Harry Reid, Murtha, Jefferson. for starters just look at those four.
    Comment by Joesillogic

    Joe can’t even count; I see just three names there. And, among the, the chrages against Harry Reid and John Murtha have been refuted.


  120. unbelievable says:

    Phew! I read your post and thought you said
    They voted Dem and became Progressive pastors :)
    Comment by RUCerious — January 8, 2007 @ 6:36 pm

    You know better : )

    I think the remaining 20% who support the little boy in the White House and his bully friends have to be trash… The others just went away in shame or changed their minds.

    Even my staunch Republican brother is now calling himself an Independent conservative who hates both parties. And he was brain washed by the Army to be loyal to the Command in Thief no matter what.


  121. Tau says:

    Dangit, MA had me laughing so much I burnt my Peanut Butter Cookies.

    But Dems in Massachusetts certainly have known about Ted “Breast Stroke” for almost 40 years……And the aptly named CongressMAN(?) Studds – re-elected (!!) AFTER the perv pedophile takes his underage lover to Europe – I can understand why YOU are a liberal – you make excuses for really hideous behaviour. Hypocrite…..

    Bwahahaha, I am not a liberal although I believe in liberty. I am sovereign as your Lord is. But keep trying to group me with groups I have no association with, your cracking me up with your Coulter logic.


  122. Raven says:

    (Caption contest)

    “Don’ you guys wike me no mo’?”


  123. ForTruth says:

    MA,

    You support the party of suppressed sexual tendencies, and inverted ethics. Why do you still try? Sure Dems like to have a drink, get some intern action, go for a swim, nothin’ as destructive as your good freinds are.


  124. mighty aphrodite says:

    “Is Hagette upset, awe, I’m gonna cry too” Comment by ForTruth

    *****Upset?? Not on YOUR life – first Amanda makes stuff up (such a clever girl!!) and then I get to watch Progs cover for “Bad Driver/Good Swimmer”
    and homosexual ped-o’s…. Remember, this place is for entertainment value only…..


  125. Tau says:

    Do you think Tom Delay resigned because he KNEW Repubs wanted him to stay??? You wouldn’t know the truth if it bit you in the a$$….

    Comment by mighty aphrodite

    So If I Read Anne Coulters book I would? Hahahaha!
    Say wasn’t it shown she was a plagiarist?


  126. Zooey says:

    I’m so proud.

    The TP commenters are kicking some serious troll ass today.

    All ya’ll get gold stars today!


  127. JaneESchneider says:

    Repubs did not know the extent of Foley the Freaks perversions.
    Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 8, 2007 @ 6:45 pm

    But they did know that Foley was perverted and that he was in a position of responsibility for the pages. While the extent may have been unknown, the fact of his type of perversion was known, and should have been stopped. No excuses.


  128. ForTruth says:

    Unbelievable,

    So you survived a Republican upbringing? Oy. That must have been an experience. I understand if you had to go to counseling.


  129. Jackie says:

    Made to look like the fool he is. Next Tony will say what has happen in the past 6 years never happen at all. The 3000 plus soldiers that gave their lives based on lies didn’t happen. But Tony will say Daddy Bush and the White House with alot of GOP supporters did get 75 % of oil rates in Iraq that was approved by the puppet President Maliki. Connie Rice was correct when she said our troops death were investments in oil control in Iraq. Now Bush needs more soldiers to die to finished the job of stealing. This invasion had nothing to do with WMDs or Iraq Freedom. The fishing trip with Daddy Bush and his idiot son George was about staying the course and keep stalling for time for the public to move on to something else. The crimes by this Administration make Nixon’s crimes look small. We’re had 6 years of lies crimes and death of our soldiers as Bush tells Tony to keep lying it works.


  130. JTitor says:

    Hey Aphro – Check out this page regarding your claim that the Republican party has a greater propensity to get listed on the police blotter:

    http://www.unknownnews.net/RepublicanFamilyValues.html

    Here’s just a taste:

    Sept.29, 2006:
    Another Republican Congressman turns out to be a skanky perv
    Excerpt: Congressman Mark Foley (R-Florida), as chairman of the Missing and Exploited Children’s Caucus, had introduced legislation in July to protect children from exploitation by adults over the Internet. He also sponsored other legislation designed to protect minors from abuse and neglect.

    June 28, 2006:
    Republican advertising consultant behind anti-Clinton smear convicted of child molestation
    Excerpt: A political consultant whose company was behind a television ad accusing the Clinton-Gore administration of giving away nuclear technology was convicted of child molestation charges.

    April 28, 2006:
    Defense contractor allegedly provided hookers for Cunningham
    Excerpt: The allegations were raised by Mitchell Wade, another defense contractor who also has pleaded guilty to charges stemming from the bribery conspiracy involving former Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham, the officials said. Cunningham is serving a prison term of eight years, four months after pleading guilty in November to taking $2.4 million in homes, yachts and other bribes.

    Wade is cooperating with investigators as part of his plea agreement in February. He has told them that Brent Wilkes, a San Diego defense contractor who has been identified as a co-conspirator, secured prostitutes, limousines and suites at two Washington hotels for Cunningham, the officials said.

    April 20, 2006:
    Republican claims tight finances,
    gets child support obligation cut in half,
    then gives $250,000 to his own campaign for Governor
    Excerpt: Scottsdale businessman Mike Harris has put $100,000 of his own money into his campaign for governor just months after convincing a judge he was too poor to make full support payments for his only child.

    Harris said he got the court to cut his support payments in half, to $1,000 a month, after coming close to bankruptcy. Harris said he now is in much better financial health, which is why he has committed to spend up to $250,000 in personal funds on his bid for the Republican gubernatorial nomination.

    But Harris said he doesn’t intend to start paying more to support John Carter, 7, who lives with his mother in Northern California. Harris, who describes himself on his campaign Web site as a “proud and loving father,” said $1,000 a month “for one kid for a four-year marriage is pretty darn generous.”

    Oct. 10, 2005:
    Christian Coalition head molested three family members, family says
    Excerpt: After news broke that local law enforcement officials were investigating complaints that Louis Beres, longtime chairman of the Christian Coalition of Oregon, had molested three female family members when they were pre-teens, The Oregonian in Portland went out and interviewed Beres’ family members.

    Two told reporters that Beres, indeed, had molested them. All three said they have been interviewed for several hours by detectives.

    “I was molested,” said one of the women, now in her early 50s. “I was victimized, and I’ve suffered all my life for it. I’m still afraid to be in the same room with [Beres].”

    The coalition led by Beres, 70, champions socially conservative candidates and causes. Its Web site describes the group as “Oregon’s leading grassroots organization defending our Godly heritage.” The group opposes abortion, gay rights, and stem cell research. It is affiliated with the national Christian Coalition, which was founded in 1989 by television evangelist Pat Robertson.


  131. trueblue says:

    the way MA continually brings up Ted Kennedy – 38 years ago, no less -
    I’m starting to think she was turned down by the Senator, and she just can’t keep from crying in her beer……
    38 years later.
    Think about it.
    It kinda makes sense.


  132. ForTruth says:

    Remember, this place is for entertainment value only…..

    Comment by mighty aphrodite

    You seem to be entertained/obsessed by swimming. And general Democratic antics. I think you just wish you could party with us, we’re way more fun..


  133. unbelievable says:

    Repubs did not know the extent of Foley the Freaks perversions.

    Liar. Hastert said he did.

    But Dems in Massachusetts certainly have known about Ted “Breast Stroke” for almost 40 years……

    You have to dig 40 years back? That’s sad and desperate.

    And the aptly named CongressMAN(?) Studds – re-elected (!!) AFTER the perv pedophile takes his underage lover to Europe – I can understand why YOU are a liberal – you make excuses for really hideous behaviour. Hypocrite…..
    Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 8, 2007 @ 6:45 pm

    I made no excuses, just gave you the FACT that Jefferson hasn’t been indicted.

    I’m an Independent. I just think Dems are less corrupt that Repugs. And from teh list of comparisions, I’m right and you’re wrong… yet again. Yawn. You are way too easy.

    I bet you start slinging more insults now since it’s all you actually have.


  134. joeslogic says:

    I leave for a while and come back and see mighty aphrodite is under attack and the funny thing is this is exactly my point.

    It is the same strategy. Foley is out of there, but Kennedy is not. And then there is the hypocrisy of it all. The Dems who feign concern about children sat on the Foley deal for almost a year to use it as an October surprise.

    Don’t worry Mighty Aphrodite these idiots may spout off crap like point match and what not. You hit them where it hurts

    Why because what you said had meaning and weight. They frantically hurl around a bunch of stupid kindergarten level insults with flailing arms because they have not got a leg to stand on. And then just like I mentioned before they try to act like they made a point, thinking that means they made a point. Really its like watching someone have a logical argument with a bunch of retards.

    Hilarious! To bad this is a waste of my time.

    Beating a dead horse


  135. Tau says:

    So if you are a female, beware in the presence of Republicans. Statistically, there is a 33 to 10 likelihood that you will be propositioned by one of them, and at least two of them will be stinking drunk – and two of them will be GAY! Somebody really ought to do something about the “Party of Family Values!” They’re simply too horny!
    http://www.americaheldhostile.com/cheating.html
    © 1999 JeffBob. All Rights Reserved.


  136. mighty aphrodite says:

    For Truth – Are you asn amnesiac? You say, “Sure Dems like to have a drink, get some intern action, go for a swim, nothin’ as destructive as your good freinds are.” Comment by ForTruth

    ******Ask MARY JO KOPECHNE’s parents how “destructive” a drive with Ted Kennedy can be….Gotta run….but I can leave KNOWING you’re an IDIOT


  137. Tau says:

    Remember, this place is for entertainment value only…..
    Comment by mighty aphrodite

    So why are you angry?


  138. unbelievable says:

    unbelievable never met a Massachusetts man-slaughterer or pedophile she couldn’t like……

    What did I just say you would do? Damn if you didn’t prove me right yet again…

    Do you think Tom Delay resigned because he KNEW Repubs wanted him to stay??? You wouldn’t know the truth if it bit you in the a$$….
    Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 8, 2007 @ 6:47 pm

    No, he resigned because he discovered that he could make more $ as a lobbyist…

    The truth stopped biting me after I went liberal.


  139. Tau says:

    sk MARY JO KOPECHNE’s parents how “destructive” a drive with Ted Kennedy can be….Gotta run….but I can leave KNOWING you’re an IDIOT

    Comment by mighty aphrodite

    Aw come on MA, actually I like you. As the Lord tells me to love all people.


  140. Lora says:

    I despise corruption – I thought my former CongressCrook Cunningham should have gotten double the sentence imposed.
    Repubs did not know the extent of Foley the Freaks perversions.
    Comments by Mightette Hypocrite

    Yes, but you were supporting him until it became all too obvious that he was corrupt through and through. Then you tried to accuse progs of being sympathetic to him.
    There is more than ample evidence that Hastert and other members of the Repug leadership had been informed of Foley’s perversions years before the news finally appeared in the media. We’ve all seen it, Mightette, so find a better defense or shut up. I also challenge you to produce a longer list of Democrat pedophiles than the list produced here of Repug perverts.
    Bringing up Ted Kennedy again, eh? Well, how about First Lady Laura Welch Bush’s run through a stop signal that ended up killing her classmate (and rumored former boyfriend)? Or the former Repub governor of South Dakota who killed a man on a motorcycle by driving his car way over the speed limit? That’s a much more recent accident.


  141. joeslogic says:

    Remember, this place is for entertainment value only…..

    Comment by mighty aphrodite

    You seem to be entertained/obsessed by swimming. And general Democratic antics. I think you just wish you could party with us, we’re way more fun..

    Comment by ForTruth — January 8, 2007 @ 6:57 pm

    Watch out Mighty Aphrodite if you ever go to one of their “Cigar Parties”
    Yeah they do not like big tobacco but they like to moisten Cuban cigars in a really sick way.


  142. mighty aphrodite says:

    Dear Joe – Funny thing about Progs – they swear they care about women – except the one’s harrassed or killed by Dems. Gotta run – keep up the GOOD work….


  143. mrJJ says:

    I wonder how the new Saddam video will affect our troopers on the ground over there?….

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/4455547.html

    BAGHDAD, Iraq — A new video of Saddam Hussein’s corpse, with a gaping neck wound, was posted on the Internet early Tuesday, the second leaked release of clandestine pictures from the former leader’s hanging.

    The video appeared to have been taken with a camera phone, like the graphic video of the hanging which showed guards taunting Saddam in the final moments of his life.

    The footage pans up the shrouded body of the former leader from the feet. It apparently was taken shortly after Saddam was executed and placed on a gurney. He was hanged shortly before dawn on Dec. 30.

    As the panning shot reaches the head region, the white shroud is pulled back and reveals Saddam’s head and neck.

    His head is unnaturally twisted at a 90 degree angle to his right. It shows a gaping bloody wound, circular in shape, about an inch below his jaw line on the left side of his neck. His left cheek is marked with red blotches, and there is blood on the shroud where it covered his head.

    The newest video leak was likely to increase the angry reaction over the way the execution was carried out. There already has been a global outcry about the undignified manner in which the Shiite-dominated government hanged Saddam, a Sunni.

    The 27-second video was posted on an Iraqi news Web site that is known to support Saddam’s outlawed Baath Party.

    “A new film of the late immortal martyr, President Saddam Hussein,” the web site said in a headline over a link to the video.


  144. Tau says:

    Don’t worry Mighty Aphrodite these idiots may spout off crap like point match and what not. You hit them where it hurts

    I am not a Democrat. MA is railing at the wind.


  145. JaneESchneider says:

    “I leave for a while and come back…” Comment by joeslogic — January 8, 2007 @ 6:58 pm

    Why’d you bother?


  146. VerbalKint says:

    Yeah, but you have to admit that joeslogic is one of the most entertaining trolls we’ve had in a long time. You just don’t see spin like that every day. The guy’s a regular whirling dervish.

    Comment by chimpeach — January 8, 2007 @ 6:38 pm

    Yup, he’s just the type of troll that I like to grab hold of and slap around after work.


  147. JTitor says:

    They (mighty aphrodite) always leave when we start having fun. Ted Kennedy? What the hell was that all about?


  148. VerbalKint says:

    Joe can’t even count; I see just three names there. And, among the, the chrages against Harry Reid and John Murtha have been refuted.
    Comment by Lora — January 8, 2007 @ 6:49 pm

    It is not that he can’t count. It is that he applies joeslogic. Listing three names, then describing it as three names, is logical. Describing it as four names is joelogical.


  149. Uncle_Ho says:

    March for peace in Washington D.C. on 27 Jan.

    http://www.united for peace.org.

    Demand the new Congress to end the war.

    If you aren’t part of the solution, then you are part of the problem.


  150. unbelievable says:

    So you survived a Republican upbringing? Oy. That must have been an experience. I understand if you had to go to counseling.
    Comment by ForTruth — January 8, 2007 @ 6:54 pm

    At 31 I went backpacking through Europe with a friend who was unplugging himself from his own conservative Christian roots, and it gave me the courage to start questioning my own life philosophies that I’d been given rather than chosen.

    Once I began to question it, it unraveled so quickly there was little in the way to deny that reality definitely has a liberal bias. Life is also less stressful, and far more enjoyable without all the superfluous conservative rules, paranoia and general malaise that comes from focusing on what you are not and what you don’t have.

    I wouldn’t ever go back (and I don’t say ‘never’).


  151. JaneESchneider says:

    “Foley is out of there, but Kennedy is not. ” Comment by joeslogic — January 8, 2007 @ 6:58 pm

    Joe, the time for Kennedy to have been kicked out was 1969. Why don’t you and MA try dealing with the present? Or, at least the present millenium?


  152. Tau says:

    I really and truly think that MA is Anne Coulter.


  153. pluege says:

    none of this matters. it is indisputably clear that bush is going to do whatever he feels like doing regardless of public opinion, laws, damage to the country, etc. bush has decided he is omnipotent, he is above and beyond the law and listening to anyone. people ought to stop being shocked after 6 years of this and get motivated to do something about – like impeach and remove the little shit bastard from office.
    .


  154. Tau says:

    Watch out Mighty Aphrodite if you ever go to one of their “Cigar Parties”
    Yeah they do not like big tobacco but they like to moisten Cuban cigars in a really sick way.

    Comment by joeslogic

    You leave Ted Haggard out of this, he is being re-born as we speak.


  155. Zooey says:

    Dear Joe – Funny thing about Progs – they swear they care about women – except the one’s harrassed or killed by Dems. Gotta run – keep up the GOOD work….
    Comment by mighty aphrodite

    This from the Queen of Self-Hating “Women,” in response to Joe Slogic’s assumption that “she” would actually attend something called a “Cigar Party.”

    Bizarre.


  156. Lora says:

    Ps. Mightette and joesillogic,
    Any explanation of why gay escort ($200/hr, $1200 for weekends)-cum-phony journalist Jeff Gannon/James Guckert was visiting this “very moral” White House even when there were no press conferences?
    Anyway, folks, we’ve let the trolls bring this thread way off topic, which is Tony’s attempt at another snowjob.


  157. Tau says:

    I’m thinking about asking MA out on a date. =)


  158. VerbalKint says:

    Don’t worry Mighty Aphrodite these idiots may spout off crap like point match and what not. You hit them where it hurts. Why because what you said had meaning and weight.
    Comment by joeslogic — January 8, 2007 @ 6:58 pm

    Wow. Just when we thought we had seen it all, joeslogic takes it to the next level.

    Impressive, joeslogic, very impressive. How will you ever surpass this fine moment? Surely you have reached the pinnacle of joelogical thinking and it is all downhill from here.


  159. JTitor says:

    Yo Ho – The solution is to impeach the smarmy bastard in office, but the democrats won’t even do that. If we have to march to demand the new congress to end the war, then they weren’t listening before, during or after the midterm elections. How many people in this group feel that congress should have a clue and know we want out of the war? Anyone studder?


  160. unbelievable says:

    Dear Joe – Funny thing about Progs – they swear they care about women – except the one’s harrassed or killed by Dems.

    Monica Lewinsky seduced Bill Clinton… NOT the other way around.

    And how about the boy Laura Bush intentionally killed?

    Gotta run – keep up the GOOD work….
    Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 8, 2007 @ 7:05 pm

    You keep saying that liar…


  161. gogreen says:

    You know, its really fruitless to try to tally numbers of corrupt dems vs corrupt republicans. The last six years speak for themselves. The rethuglican party is absolutely and completely intellectually and morally bankrupt.


  162. Uncle_Ho says:

    146 Tau; More accurately, Mighty Moron is pissing into the wind, as usual.

    Mighty Moron, you still yell about Chappaquiddick, but why do you remain silent about Stepford wife Laura’s fatal car crash that killed her boyfriend? BTW name “our friends and allies who did not desert us during our civil war.” as you claim.


  163. joeslogic says:

    “I leave for a while and come back…” Comment by joeslogic — January 8, 2007 @ 6:58 pm

    Why’d you bother?

    Comment by JaneESchneider — January 8, 2007 @ 7:07 pm

    So I could point out scumbags like this:

    I wonder how the new Saddam video will affect our troopers on the ground over there?….

    mrJJ

    And before I even get started don’t try to resort to that pathetic

    “I’m offended … I’m patriotic” Crap

    It was your words quoted from your own statement. You vile disgusting sick degenerate.

    Deep down your denial means nothing amongst this pack of liars. You are probably wringing you’re hands with baited breath in anticipation of a headline about some troops getting blown away.

    God it stinks in here!

    And the sick thing is your bedfellows here in this sight will rally to your defense. After the denial wears away they know they are right there with you same hopes and dreams of dead soldiers and communist rule.


  164. Uncle_Ho says:

    Tau, you wanna date the Mighty Moron? EEEEEEWWWWWW!!!!! You must REALLY be hard up.


  165. JTitor says:

    Wait a second. I’m lost here-who’s Mr JJ?


  166. Tau says:

    I hear hate sex is awesome.
    Hey MA next time you get to Texas, look me up.
    No cigars. =)

    God it stinks in here!
    And the sick thing is your bedfellows here in this sight will rally to your defense. After the denial wears away they know they are right there with you same hopes and dreams of dead soldiers and communist rule. -JL

    I see you have been reading worldnutdaily. Guess you missed the read your postal mail signing statement? Heh.


  167. unbelievable says:

    How many people in this group feel that congress should have a clue and know we want out of the war? Anyone studder?
    Comment by JTitor — January 8, 2007 @ 7:18 pm

    I think they know. I just think that they are trying to do it by the book, and with justice rather than revenge, so that whatever they eventually do to these criminals will stick, because it is just.


  168. gogreen says:

    Yo Ho – The solution is to impeach the smarmy bastard in office, but the democrats won’t even do that. If we have to march to demand the new congress to end the war, then they weren’t listening before, during or after the midterm elections. How many people in this group feel that congress should have a clue and know we want out of the war? Anyone studder?

    Comment by JTitor — January 8, 2007 @ 7:18 pm

    Too many of the core dems are DLC. They may have ridden into office on an anti-war mandate, but they won’t neccessarily honor it, political expediency is an old habit and Rahm Emmanuel et. al are as beholden to the corporate power structure as any rethug. Thats why I became a Green. We the people will have to march, again and again, until chimpy is impeached and our foreigbn policy is returned to the hands of saner people, if the chimp doesn’t blow us all up first.


  169. gogreen says:

    #167

    So leave already.


  170. JTitor says:

    joeslogic Your saying I’am sleeping with Mr JJ? Is that code? If your going to blog you need to not just write down what your thinking. Please take a breath and realize that you have an audience, and you need to make a point.


  171. Tau says:

    Tau, you wanna date the Mighty Moron? EEEEEEWWWWWW!!!!! You must REALLY be hard up.

    Comment by Uncle_Ho

    Naw, not really, the Trolls hate being liked, messes them up. =)


  172. unbelievable says:

    God it stinks in here!
    Comment by joeslogic — January 8, 2007 @ 7:20 pm

    That would be your breath you smell – as we aren’t close enough. Stay out of the litter box at dinner time, eh?


  173. WC says:

    As long as you liberals leave the borders open then Tony Snow’s statement is correct.

    Comment by Daryll — January 8, 2007 @ 6:00 pm

    And the Repubs had almost 6 years to do something about the borders. What did we get? The National Guard sent to the Mexico/US border to perform paperwork and other administrative duties.

    Thanks for once again pointing out that the Dems have to clean up the sh*t that the Repubs left in Congress all these years.


  174. joeslogic says:

    Uncle_Ho

    Tell me your side of the Ted Kennedy drowning an innocent girl story.

    I’ll see if you can get it right. Ignorance is no excuse either. Let’s here is and do not sugar coat it or be apologetic either. Let’s hear the straight scoop about what specifically happened.

    I’m calling you on this annoying comparison right here so spit it out. :|

    Then to be fair I will let you do the same about the Bush incident. I got stuff to do but I will check back tomorrow same thread YOU KEEP BRINGING IT UP SO LET’S HEAR IT!

    WHAT ABOUT IT ?


  175. JaneESchneider says:

    I’m heading home, but I have to say:

    Joe, you can read whatever sick intention you want into anything you want, but your ‘logic’ is twisted and perverted. You are the vile disgusting sick degenerate one here for believing the shit that you believe. I was going to try to EXPLAIN mrJJ’s post to you, but, again, why bother? Your tiny little mind is made up. I’m not wasting any more time on a piece of crap like you.


  176. Jeanne says:

    Oh my God…he comes from a planet far far away. Somebody needs to put a sock in Snow’s mouth and from the looks of him in the picture somebody has threatened to.


  177. Tau says:

    How many people in this group feel that congress should have a clue and know we want out of the war? Anyone studder?
    Comment by JTitor

    Actually my neighbor, and a great friend, is retired USAF guy, (as my father was so I can relate) and even he is starting to think this is a boondoggle. As per the discussion we had we can either untie the hands of the Marines and the Army, and let them do their Job, or we need to get out. Otherwise it will just become another Vietnam.


  178. JTitor says:

    I think they know. I just think that they are trying to do it by the book, and with justice rather than revenge, so that whatever they eventually do to these criminals will stick, because it is just.

    Comment by unbelievable — January 8, 2007 @ 7:27 pm

    The first words out of Pilosi’s mouth before and after the November elections: Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) told her caucus members during their weekly closed meeting Wednesday “that impeachment is off the table; she is not interested in pursuing it,” spokesman Brendan Daly said.

    We are fighting for this country, the constitution, and freedom. I want MY Bill of Rights back.


  179. Uncle_Ho says:

    Tau; heh, heh, snicker, snark :)

    OK guys, it’s been fun to put in my 2 cents, but I’m out of here for the night. Movietime(DVD).

    Good luck and good night.


  180. Lora says:

    I leave for a while and come back.
    Harry Reid, Murtha, Jefferson. for starters just look at those four.
    Comments by Joesillogic

    Before you come back again (though we’d be perfectly happy if you didn’t come back), please at least learn how to count. Harry Reid, Murtha, Jefferson are three people–not four, smarty guy!


  181. Tau says:

    Let’s hear the straight scoop about what specifically happened.

    Joe nobody was there except Kennedy and the girl. We don’t know what transpired there anymore than we know about Nicole Simpsons death.
    Sure we can make all kinds of great theories, and try to frame all Democrats because of one incident, but you know that is just pure mental masturbation.
    Lets use your kennedy logic and apply it to Foley.
    If Foley is a pervert, why then all Republicans must be perverts, and that is a foolish argument, especially coming from a person (MA) that is supposed to be some kind of laywer (or legal aide)
    Its pure Rhetoric.


  182. Tau says:

    Yeh, I need to fix some dinner and work on my Resume.

    GN Folks!

    TWas fun.


  183. VerbalKint says:

    Lora, see comment #151 about the relationship between joeslogic and counting.


  184. JTitor says:

    Hey joeslogic: I’ll say it – He got drunk and wanted this chick to come home with him, during the drive (probably groping) went off a bridge. She died, and he swam across the lake to his house. I have no infinity for Teddy, and he was probably more pissed off that he didn’t get any. Now lets talk about the real issues. Impeaching your furor for crimes against humanity. You boot licking koolaid drinking ass. To think that somehow Kennedy, and how he got away with murder compares to what this straussian neo-fascist has done to this country even compares? Hell no.


  185. VerbalKint says:

    God it stinks in here!

    Stand back folks, joeslogic is heading for the cliff and picking up speed. Words like “last throes” no longer suffice to describe what he is going through right now.


  186. JTitor says:

    If Foley is a pervert, why then all Republicans must be perverts, and that is a foolish argument, especially coming from a person (MA) that is supposed to be some kind of laywer (or legal aide)
    Its pure Rhetoric.

    Comment by Tau — January 8, 2007 @ 7:41 pm

    I think your wrong Tau. I do believe that a good majority of Republicans are perverts, and or Psychotic schizophrenic’s.


  187. unbelievable says:

    Comment by JTitor — January 8, 2007 @ 7:36 pm

    Spam filter ate my response to you. I don’t think it likes the word Republican… :)

    I’ll retype it later. Gotta run for now.


  188. JTitor says:

    Hey joeslogic, it’s a little too easy to make you look like a fool. Hopefully, you don’t think that you are somehow making your party look better by virtue of your arguements? Your not. Maybe you have some friends that are a little brighter then you? Maybe you can skip down to the Walmart and tell your daddy that there are mean people making you look like a complete idiot on that “Tube thingy”! Fu*king bootlicker!


  189. VerbalKint says:

    I just read joeslogic’s response to mrJJ’s post about the Saddam video. His response isn’t just his usual inversion of logic. It is irrational. It is unhinged.


  190. JTitor says:

    Comment by unbelievable – Looking forward.


  191. Gregor Samsa says:

    His response isn’t just his usual inversion of logic. It is irrational. It is unhinged.
    Comment by VerbalKint — January 8, 2007 @ 8:06 pm

    Isn’t it? I read it too, and thought it smacked of projection, actually.

    What a sad, pathetic troll without a purpose in life… I can almost feel sorry for him. Ok, maybe not.


  192. Lora says:

    Lora, see comment #151 about the relationship between joeslogic and counting.
    Comment by VerbalKint

    VK,
    I saw it, and it’s a good comment. But Joe didn’t seem to notice, so I was trying to remind him. But you’re probably right: three names listed equals four in joeslogic.


  193. VerbalKint says:

    But Joe didn’t seem to notice, so I was trying to remind him.
    Comment by Lora — January 8, 2007 @ 8:12 pm

    Believe me, he noticed it. But keep pounding away if you like. Sometimes I chase these trolls around on a point like that until they answer or slink away.


  194. JTitor says:

    Yo Joe: “And the sick thing is your bedfellows here in this sight will rally to your defense.”

    Mmm…the correct spelling is s-i-t-e, as in blogsite, website….don’t make me get your daddy. Because, if I tell him you’ve been Jim Jones’n about your love for Bush, and that your dream is to e just like him…he will beat you with a Walmart tire iron that he got for Christmas. Oh and again I don’t sleep with MrJJ.


  195. Tau says:

    I think your wrong Tau. I do believe that a good majority of Republicans are perverts, and or Psychotic schizophrenic’s.

    Comment by JTitor

    I have been wrong before. =)


  196. ren says:

    SURGE======ESCALATION

    Escalation is the phenomenon of something getting more intense step by step, for example a quarrel, or, notably, military presence and nuclear armament during the Cold War. (Compare to escalator, a device that lifts something to a higher level.) The term is said to be originally coined by Herman Kahn.

    In psychology it is a change in behaviour, usually from stable or acceptable towards unstable or unacceptable.


  197. Tau says:

    “And how about the boy Laura Bush intentionally killed?”

    But yet you say the same thing about Kennedy MA.

    Shall we blame all the Republicans for the next forty years for what happened to Lauras schoolmate?

    And that is the problem with your “breast stroke” Kennedy argument. Inane logic bolstered by inane rhetoric coupled with groupthink.

    So when are we gonna go out MA? Don’t worry MA I don’t smoke cigars and you can bring your leather whips if you want.


  198. ForTruth says:

    For Truth – Are you asn amnesiac?

    Comment by mighty aphrodite

    Who are you?


  199. Zooey says:

    So when are we gonna go out MA? Don’t worry MA I don’t smoke cigars and you can bring your leather whips if you want.
    Comment by Tau

    You might want to bring a gag, because……well, it talks incessantly.


  200. JTitor says:

    mighty aphrodite you never try picking on me? The Reich calling you back for dinner. If your such a big man conservative dude, and you seem to be an apologist for the Furor. I assume you voted for the Chimpboy? Correct? Tell me this; if your such a conservative then why did you vote for this president? NeoCon ideologies are based in Straussian’s interpretation of Machiavellian logic. As did the NeoCons, Hitler used religion as Machiavelli recommended: “as a tool of political influence and control”.

    Many different characteristics are attributed to fascism by different scholars, but the following elements are usually seen as its integral parts: nationalism, authoritarianism, militarism, corporatism, anti-liberalism, and anti-communism. Wow that sure sounds like present day America to me?

    Strauss noted that thinkers of the first rank, going back to Plato, had raised the problem of whether good and effective politicians could be completely truthful and still achieve the necessary ends of their society. By implication, Strauss asks his readers to consider whether “noble lies” have any role at all to play in uniting and guiding the polis. He believed that the “ends justified the means” at all costs as Machiavelli coined.

    Just something to think about?


  201. chimpeach says:

    #135 joeslogic

    The Dems who feign concern about children sat on the Foley deal for almost a year to use it as an October surprise.

    That’s just flat-out bullshit. Back it up or take it back.

    You’re forgetting something, nutjob. The two Republicans on the page committee decided not to tell the one Democrat about it. Republicans kept this one all to themselves and that’s why they ended up having to pay for it.


  202. Lora says:

    Mightette Hypocrite,
    You should realize by now that every time you bring up Ted Kennedy’s accident, someone here will remind you of the Laura Welch Bush-caused collision, which similarly caused a young person to die. Both fatal accidents occurred in the 1960s. For more recent Repug accident history, how about this from wikipedia?
    “On August 16, 2003, (Republican Governor of S. Dakota) Janklow was involved in a fatal traffic collision when the white Cadillac he was driving hit motorcyclist Randolph E. Scott at a rural intersection near Trent, South Dakota. Scott, a 55-year-old from Minnesota, was thrown from his motorcycle and killed instantly. Janklow suffered a broken hand and bleeding on the brain. In the ensuing investigation of the accident, it was determined Janklow was likely driving at least 70 miles per hour in a 55 mph zone. ” Wikipedia goes on to explain that Janklow had a history of getting speeding tickets. He was also once cited, when Attorney General of SD, for sexual misconduct with a native American woman, though the charges were later dropped.
    And what? No explanation of Jeff Gannon’s frequent visits to the WH?! I didn’t think so.


  203. Zooey says:

    chimpeach,

    They just make shit up, and then shout to the heavens that it’s true, swear to god. The sad thing is, people like us are the only ones calling them on their bullshit. The sheeple lap that crap up.


  204. chimpeach says:

    #167 joeslogic

    You are probably wringing you’re hands with baited breath in anticipation of a headline about some troops getting blown away.

    And, employing that same awesome Joes Logic, it’s fair to say that Joe and all his right-wing buddies were giggling like schoolgirls when the World Trade Center came crashing down, because they knew how much it would help Bush’s sagging poll numbers and give the Republicans something to scare voters with for years to come.

    Likewise, using Joes Logic, we see that escalating the war and keeping it going forever would be great, because it would help make sure that Bush didn’t get blamed for losing it. So what if it gets dumped in somebody else’s lap? The important thing is making sure Bush doesn’t get blamed for anything. It’s joelogical.

    Is that about right, Joe?


  205. Uncle_Ho says:

    S’matter Joe? Did I put a weed up your ass? I never mentioned anything about first Stepford Laura’s car crash anywhere before tonight. If you read anything about it on any other threads attributed to me-someone hijacked my screen name and posted stuff I’ve never said. It has happened before.

    You trolls insist on having it BOTH ways, a consensual bj is the crime of the century, but an illegal and unjustified war based on lies is A-OK by your standards.

    The only thing I keep ragging another troll is some laughable and outrageous bs the Mighty Hagga spews.

    I admit it, I HATE Bush & co. and EVERYTHING they stand for. If it were up to me, I would love to be the one to put their necks in the noose and let them swing like their predecessors at Nuremberg. They are WAR CRIMINALS no less than the Hitler gang were. I do not need to defend myself to the likes of you, so piss off!

    That said, I’m out of here for the night. Say good night Zooey.


  206. Zooey says:

    Goodnight, Uncle Ho. :)


  207. JTitor says:

    Ahh..it’s no fun when the trolls leave. Bring um back.


  208. Zooey says:

    Ahh..it’s no fun when the trolls leave. Bring um back.
    Comment by JTitor

    How many death threats have YOU received from them?
    Leave ‘em gone…

    Just sayin’


  209. rachel b says:

    The Dems who feign concern about children sat on the Foley deal for almost a year to use it as an October surprise.

    … That is so true Joe , good eye for seeing that one . Good eye .


  210. Zooey says:

    The Dems who feign concern about children sat on the Foley deal for almost a year to use it as an October surprise.
    … That is so true Joe , good eye for seeing that one . Good eye .
    Comment by rachel b

    This is a lie, rachel b late for dinner. Run along…


  211. Joefriday says:

    Thanks to joes logic Florida is winning!


  212. JTitor says:

    They’re all bark and no bite. Just a bunch of fu*king idiots. Turn them over to the FBI. Death threats across state lines is a federal matter, then of course they would read your blogs and see that you may not be sympathetic to their cause. Ok…your right I will leave them alone.

    How many death threats have YOU received from them?
    Leave ‘em gone…

    Just sayin’

    Comment by Zooey


  213. Zooey says:

    JTitor,

    Deal with them while they’re here — I will! — but don’t invite them!

    The threats trueblue and I received showed that the troll had been following us around for quite a while. That’s creepy.


  214. Greg Nevins says:

    And this surprises who? In 2000 I voted for Gore and then when W was appointed, I naively assumed that losing the popular vote, most likely the electoral vote and being APPOINTED by the Supreme Court,

    With All due respect sir, The Supreme Court only told the Florida Supreme Court that they COULD NOT RE-WRITE THE ELECTION LAWS in the State of Florida. George W. Bush WON the 2000 Presidential Election because he got the Most Electoral Votes. Please STOP spreading LIES about the 2000 Election. Al Gore was a LOSER and so was Johh Kerry — neither on was fit to be Head Dog Catcher!!!!!


  215. Lora says:

    For the trolls with a cigar hang-up,
    Former Repug House Majority Leader Tom Delay also has some issues concerning cigars. From wikipedia,
    “In April 2005, Time Magazine published a photo from a July 2003 trip to Israel, in which DeLay is seen smoking a Cuban cigar.[44] The consumption or purchase of Cuban cigars is illegal in the United States (but was, at the time, not illegal abroad). Since September 2004, the U.S. Treasury Department’s enforcement of the law has been toughened to forbid consumption (smoking) or purchase of Cuban cigars by U.S. citizens anywhere in the world.[45] As Cuban cigars have been a (if not the) central symbol of the U.S. embargo on Cuban trade, DeLay’s action – apparently contradicting his well-known and strongly-stated personal convictions regarding Cuba – was widely reported.”

    Also, once when toting a cigar in his mouth in a cafeteria within a Congressional building, he was told by a waitress that it is illegal to smoke on federal government property. His retort was something like “I am the federal government.” Great guy, I’m sure you miss him a lot, Mightette, Joe and rachel b.


  216. Greg Nevins says:

    You trolls insist on having it BOTH ways, a consensual bj is the crime of the century, but an illegal and unjustified war based on lies is A-OK by your standards.

    Excuse ME… Slick Willy was IMPEACHED for LYING UNDER OATH, which is called PERJURY!!!! Most other people who commit perjury would go to jail. A Federal Judge Ordered “Scum Bag” Clinton to pay $850,000.00 to Paula Jones and she stripped him of his Law License in AR. Please don’t sidetrack the issue by stating the obvious — consenual sex between 2 adults is legal. Cheating on your LESBIAN WIFE IS NOT!!!!!


  217. Greg Nevins says:

    Since September 2004, the U.S. Treasury Department’s enforcement of the law has been toughened to forbid consumption (smoking) or purchase of Cuban cigars by U.S. citizens anywhere in the world.

    Dear Misinformed — The U. S. Treasury Dept. has NO JURISDICTION OUTSIDE OF THE U.S. They CANNOT STOP any American from purchasing or smoking a Cuban Cigar if it is done outside the U. S. Where did you get your high school diploma? Oh right, YOU NEVER GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL!!!!! Please refrain from posting BS from wikipedia, the web site that anyone can post any outrageous LIES!!!!!!


  218. Greg Nevins says:

    You know, its really fruitless to try to tally numbers of corrupt dems vs corrupt republicans. The last six years speak for themselves. The DEMONCRATIC party is absolutely and completely intellectually and morally bankrupt. is it any wonder they LOST the White House in 2000 and again in 2004???? Guess what????? The DEMONS will LOSS the White House agian in 2008, this is a REPUBLICAN COUNTRY…. They are the Party will morals and some common sense!!!!!!!


  219. Lora says:

    They CANNOT STOP any American from purchasing or smoking a Cuban Cigar if it is done outside the U. S. Where did you get your high school diploma? Oh right, YOU NEVER GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL!!!!! Please refrain from posting BS from wikipedia, the web site that anyone can post any outrageous LIES!!!!!!
    Comment by Greg Nevins

    The point, Mr. Neverland, is Tom Delay’s hypocrisy in constantly denouncing Cuba while purchasing Cuban cigars. Also, his contempt for the law forbdidding smoking (whether Cuban cigars or American cigarettes) within federal buildings.
    I graduated in the top one percent of my high school class, was allowed to attend UCLA part-time while still a senior in high school, and went on to an Ivy League university for the remainder of my undergraduate and graduate work. I have also been a Fulbright Scholar in East Asian languages。 And where did you go to school, Mr. Stupid Presumptions? Or to put it in a language you wouldn’t understand, “貴方はどこの幼稚園出身?”


  220. JTitor says:

    The threats trueblue and I received showed that the troll had been following us around for quite a while. That’s creepy.

    Comment by Zooey — January 8, 2007 @ 11:13 pm

    Thanks Zooey. Will do.


  221. Eargy Earp says:

    Snow needs to get some new ear plugs to stop the straw from falling out of his head.


  222. Lora says:

    You know, its really fruitless to try to tally numbers of corrupt dems vs corrupt republicans. The last six years speak for themselves. The DEMONCRATIC party is absolutely and completely intellectually and morally bankrupt. is it any wonder they LOST the White House in 2000 and again in 2004???? Guess what????? The DEMONS will LOSS the White House agian in 2008, this is a REPUBLICAN COUNTRY…. They are the Party will morals and some common sense!!!!!!!
    Comment by Greg Nevins —

    Yes, very fruitless: one William Jefferson vs. Bob Ney, Duke Cunningham, Jack Abramoff, ex-Ohio governor Taft, Tom Delay, Bill Frist (under investigation for insider trading), the GOP people in New Hampshire now in prison for blocking telephone lines during an election. etc. Too many Repugs to remember in one breath.
    Bush may have won the electoral vote in 2000 (and by a mere 537 votes in Florida), but Gore beat him by over 500,000 nationwide in what you call Repugnacant country. Why don’t you come back in late 2008, and we’ll see if your prediction is true then?


  223. JTitor says:

    You know Greg the supreme court actually ruled on this matter and didn’t send it back to the lower court. Also, Tuesday, Dec. 12—The U.S. Supreme Court rules in Bush v. Gore 7–2 to reverse the Florida Supreme Court, which had ordered manual recounts in certain counties. The Court contends that the recount was not treating all ballots equally, and was thus a violation of the Constitution’s equal protection and due process guarantees. So, if the Florida Supreme court would have not just focused on the two counties and instead mandated a recount in all counties, the supreme court would have ruled in favor of Gore. Instead, by the time it got back to the Florida Supreme court it too late. The deadline to file any more petitions ran out. Actually, Gore lead in both the national popular count and the electoral college even with the 357 votes tied up in Florida. So sir with all due respect bl*w me!

    With All due respect sir, The Supreme Court only told the Florida Supreme Court that they COULD NOT RE-WRITE THE ELECTION LAWS in the State of Florida. George W. Bush WON the 2000 Presidential Election because he got the Most Electoral Votes. Please STOP spreading LIES about the 2000 Election. Al Gore was a LOSER and so was Johh Kerry — neither on was fit to be Head Dog Catcher!!!!!

    Comment by Greg Nevins — January 8, 2007 @ 11:58 pm

    Tuesday, Dec. 12—The U.S. Supreme Court rules in Bush v. Gore 7–2 to reverse the Florida Supreme Court, which had ordered manual recounts in certain counties. The Court contends that the recount was not treating all ballots equally, and was thus a violation of the Constitution’s equal protection and due process guarantees. The Supreme Court of Florida would be required to set up new voting standards and carry them out in a recount. The justices, however, split 5–4 along partisan lines about implementing a remedy. Five justices maintain that this process and the recount must adhere to the official deadline for certifying electoral college votes: midnight, Dec. 12; other justices question the importance of this date. Since the Court makes its ruling just hours before the deadline, it in effect ensures that it is too late for a recount. The decision generates enormous controversy. Those objecting to the ruling assert that the Supreme Court, and not the electorate, has effectively determined the outcome of the presidential election. As Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg writes in a scathing dissent, “the Court’s conclusion that a constitutionally adequate recount is impractical is a prophecy the Court’s own judgment will not allow to be tested. Such an untested prophecy should not decide the Presidency of the United States.”


  224. Ron Russell says:

    Nice of Tony Snowjob to finally admit that the Republican party is corrupt! Perhaps we can see him call a reporter names for quoting him on that statement!

    Question: So are you saying the Republican party was beaten because it was corrupt?

    Snowjob: You’re taking my words out of context, because you have a liberal bias.

    Follow up Question: So you’re saying that truth has a liberal bias?


  225. Lora says:

    Since Greg Neverland seems to be gone without answering either of my questions in #225, I will now inform those of you who do not read Japanese that this version was not quite the same as the original English question. In Japanese, I asked him where he went to kindergarten.


  226. Rajeev Vashisht says:

    Mature politicains wouldn’t use National Threats as a political agenda to make a comeback to power. All parties should come together when nation is in trouble. I don’t know what breed todays politicians, gullible public and self centred lobbyists have.

    http://www.tekno-world.blogspot.com


  227. Lora says:

    You REALLY need to know that Lora reads japanese and probably speaks the language fluently too since she can read and comprehend it .
    There .
    But the question is this … who gives a rats ass ?
    Comment by Las Vegas Louie

    Hey, Louie, Mr. Neverland asked where I went to school. I was polite enough to answer him.
    As for your question, the answer is the many people, including some at government offices, television stations, newspaper companies, etc,. who have hired me as an interpreter/translator between Japanese and English, and sometimes French–not to mention, those who hired me to fix botched translations done by less competent linguists.


  228. Lora says:

    #237 Louie,
    Your unexpected apology is accepted.


  229. Uncle_Ho says:

    Greg Nevins; Bush, Cheney, et al took oaths to uphold, protect, and defend the Constitution. Lying to Congress is a felony-just ask Ollie North. Not only have this administration lied to Congress and committed high crimes and misdemeanors, but violated the UN charter, the Nuremberg rulings, and the Geneva conventions, and U.S. laws(these ARE U.S. laws as well). As such, they should not only be impeached, but hailed, tried, convicted, and executed for the war criminals they are.

    I owe, I owe, so it’s off to work I go. Later dude.


  230. Lora says:

    To the Administrator


  231. Lora says:

    To the Administrator,
    Walter E. Evans has double-posted on #240 and 241, and has also posted the exact thing on the Geraldo Rivera thread (and perhaps others). As his language is not abusive, I don’t think he is violating the Terms of Use enough to be banned. But shouldn’t once be enough for his statement?


  232. Lora says:

    Walter,
    Although I may not like all of your message, I respect your right to release it. I have no trouble with your doing it once on one thread but not everywhere, okay? And it would be best for you that way, or else some people may start accusing you of being a troll. Your apology is accepted.


  233. Lora says:

    #245
    I am not enough of a technological whiz to explain how things sometimes get double (or even triple and quadriple)-posted unbeknownst to the sender, just as I’m not sure how my attempt at a message in #242 got posted before I wrote it out. (It could be because the cat sleeping next to the computer stretched out one of her paws without my noticing it.) All I know is that these things sometimes happen, so I will accept that the double-posting here is not intentional. However, I’m sure you must realize you have posted the same message elsewhere on TP, and I am merely suggesting that you reign it in, okay?
    Have a good day.


  234. Democrat Soldier says:

    Usually the reson for the “double posting” could be as simple as double-clicking on the “Post” button, or because you don’t see your article appear instantly so you re-enter the entire thing.

    You have to remember that the database in which responses are stored does not always immediately update and show your post. Once you’ve entered your response and pressed “Post”, go have a walk or check out the other articles, THEN come back to see if there were any responses to your post.

    Something I love are the people who complain bitterly about how everything is to PC (Politically Correct) nowadays. They forget that PC started with “Oh, you find the word ‘nigger’ offensive? OK, what word do you want me to use instead?”

    If you’re completely against everything PC, then you should start using the word ‘nigger’ in your everyday speech. I’m just sayin’. . . . .


  235. Lora says:

    Democrat Soldier,
    Your explanation about double-posting may be valid for a blog like this one. However, sometimes my regular e-mail in-box contains mail that has been double, triple, and even quadruple or more-posted, perhaps because the Send key was hit too hard, or some other reason. If you have a better explanation for that, I would love to hear it, as I am admittedly not a technological whiz.
    Have a good day!


  236. JaneESchneider says:

    Jane – Flawed “millenium” “argument, Jane. When the wack-o-voters of Mass. keep sending the lying scum, Senator Ted back to Congress – it is current….There’s a reason the statute of limitations does not apply to murder….(But let me compliment on your new-found use of gutter speak.)
    Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 8, 2007 @ 8:38 pm

    It’s a democracy and the voters voted for him. It’s been 40 freaking years, just deal with it. And if you think that ’shit’ and ‘crap’ = gutter speak, you’re awfully naive.


  237. big papa says:

    He’s MELTIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!

    Oh his beautiful wickedness is MELTIIINNNGGGG!!!!


  238. nullarim says:

    Foxy the Snowman is a lunatic.


  239. DemocraticPatriot says:

    Tony Snow, another whore for the Bushies.


  240. mighty aphrodite says:

    Re #207 – Lora – Is Governor Janklow STILL in office? Hmmmm? Your hypocrisy is telling…. Re: your reference to the allegations of sexual harassment – When it comes to sexual “misconduct” I would think you would LIKE him EVEN more…….more hypocrisy from Lora? Nahhhh….


  241. Lora says:

    Re #207 – Lora – Is Governor Janklow STILL in office? Hmmmm? Your hypocrisy is telling…. Re: your reference to the allegations of sexual harassment – When it comes to sexual “misconduct” I would think you would LIKE him EVEN more…….more hypocrisy from Lora? Nahhhh….
    Comment by mighty hypocrite

    Very weak even for you, Mightette Hypocrite. F- for shooting.


  242. BK says:

    Why not just have the daily breifing broadcast on Faux?

    Not much difference in what we are getting.


  243. joeslogic says:

    Ok all you sick degenerates. I came back to find nothing. I was hoping for a fight you all need a good philosophical nose bleed. To bad you keep it buried in the sand.

    Spelling heh is that all that you got?

    Now since you know you are wrong on the issue of that scumbag senator in MA and know quite well that comparing him to Laura is apples to oranges.

    Lets here the next argument that you sick Dems were not aware of the Foley issue well in advance of the “October Surprise” time frame.

    When did the Dems find out?

    SPIT IT OUT. DO YOUR RESEARCH.


  244. joeslogic says:

    You all are a spineless, principal less, shifty bunch.


  245. Lora says:

    No, Joe, it’s not just spelling; you can’t even count (ie. listing three names and saying there are four). You also have nothing to say but a lot of insults. Yes, we are “principal less,” as “principal” means the “head of a school.” We’re adults here and no longer go to school. Maybe your principal ought to give you a spanking because you are “principle-less.”

    To the Administrator,
    Isn’t it about time to ban this troll, who has no arguments to present–just a bunch of poorly written insults? He has violated yours “Terms of Use” several times.


  246. Lora says:

    #255 Mightette Aphid,
    Former SD Governor Janklow resigned his seat in the House of Representatives only because he was convicted of manslaughter and was about to be imprisoned. Now out of prison, he works as a lobbyist like so many other Repug scoundrels.
    You can spin this all you like, it is a fatal accident caused by a Republican that occurred this millennium–not some four decades ago like Ted Kennedy’s and Laura Bush’s crash.
    BTW, your reference to me with sexual innuendoes is about is sick as your dead child joke: DOA.



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