‘Better armor lacking for new troops in Iraq.’
By on Jan 10th, 2007 at 6:49 pm
‘Better armor lacking for new troops in Iraq.’
“The thousands of troops that President Bush is expected to order to Iraq will join the fight largely without the protection of the latest armored vehicles that withstand bomb blasts far better than the Humvees in wide use, military officers said.”
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Why don’t they just paint f*cking targets on the troops’ backs?
January 10th, 2007 at 6:57 pmTell them to relax. The Decider believes that the troops will not be harmed because he has placed a protective spiritual shield over them to to God’s work.
Tell them to march onward into the breach and be good soldiers for The Decider.
Any carping is un-American.
-GSD
January 10th, 2007 at 6:58 pmHere’s a better idea, use go-karts. They have no armor, but go real fast.
January 10th, 2007 at 7:06 pmShhhheeeeeeeiiiiiiiiit!
Oh crap. I forgot to unplug my LyingBastardometer from the tivo.
January 10th, 2007 at 7:09 pmIt’s going to record the chymp’s pronouncement tonight on remote.
Oh Well, my homeowner’s insurance is paid up. No doubt the house will be a pile of rubble at about 6:02 PM.
after everything that’s happened, in what twisted, parallel universe does bush think sending in more troops is a good idea? of course he’s been a schmuck forever. he always will be, but his stupidity and egomania are escalating to entirely new heights. I wonder if he’s been bending p-hilt. hmm… something to ponder.
January 10th, 2007 at 7:15 pmOh Well, my homeowner’s insurance is paid up. No doubt the house will be a pile of rubble at about 6:02 PM.
Comment by RUCerious
I wish you well. I have reinforced all my walls and floors just for such an occasion. Do you have any duct tape?
January 10th, 2007 at 7:16 pmDoes anyone know if TP going to live blog this “major speech?”
January 10th, 2007 at 7:21 pmArmor shmarmor
Our troops are tough and skilled enough not to need any body armor against these sand niggers
You apologists need to get tough in the belly
Why does death bother you so much
You know no one can live forever
I guess the muslims are finding this out firsthand in this war
I am glad Bush is standing up to them instead of pissing his pants like a democrta would do
In the famous words of John Kerry
Bring them on !
January 10th, 2007 at 7:27 pmDoes anyone know if TP going to live blog this “major speech?â€
Comment by Zoo — January 10, 2007 @ 7:21 pm
Typical democrat
Cannot afford cable television and barely a telephone so this person wants to see it live on the internet
Sorry but you must first get a job to be able to enjoy the finer things in life such as cable television
Unless you can have one of your democratic buddies slip that pork into a bill for you
January 10th, 2007 at 7:30 pmAnyone who’s surprised at this has obviously been either living under a rock or on a deserted island for the past couple of years. Has everyone forgotten that time back in 2004 when a U.S. soldier asked Donald Rumsfeld when he was going to get armor for his HumVee — and what Rumsfeld’s response was? This was actually the incident which triggered Rumsfeld’s famous quote about going to war with the army you have rather than the army you want — and the best which anyone can possibly say for that was that it was a rather flip and dismissive non-answer (it was actually an unbelievably rude, callous, and disrespectful response to a perfectly reasonable and legitimate question). Actions speak louder than words, it is said — and the fact that more than a few of our soldiers were reportedly combing through landfills at the time in the hope of finding salvageable materials to make up for the lack of supply from our own military speaks volumes for just how much actual, tangible support the average rank-and-file grunt can expect from this administration!
If anyone’s expecting the Bush administration to come through and supply the proper protection for our troops, my advice is don’t hold yer breath!!
January 10th, 2007 at 7:31 pmrachel b,
You and your vile comments will be gone soon. Bye.
January 10th, 2007 at 7:33 pmI’m guessing rachel is a progressive liberal pretending to be a clueless, dumbass, republican. Am I right, rachel?
January 10th, 2007 at 7:37 pmrachel b,
You and your vile comments will be gone soon. Bye.
Comment by Zoo
Whatever do you mean ?
I am posting within the rules
I will stay
I like it here with all my new found friends
You dont like it ?
You leave
January 10th, 2007 at 7:43 pmHere is aquote from an article which I tried to post the link to and got bumped so for your info it’s under google type in Vetrans cost due to Iraq,click on the more than 2 Trillion dollar war here is the money quote:
$2 Trillion and Counting
The total costs of the war, including the budgetary, social and macroeconomic costs, are likely to exceed $2 trillion. As large as these costs are, an equally large set of costs have been omitted. We have not included the costs borne by other countries, either directly (as a result of military expenditures) or indirectly (as a result of the increase in the price of oil.) Then there are the intangible costs – the cost of our reduced capability to respond to national security threats elsewhere in the world, and the cost of rising anti-American sentiment in Europe and the Middle East. Americans have long taken pride in fighting for human rights. But our credentials have been badly tarnished by the Iraq war, leading to a sharp decline in America’s “soft power.†On issues from trade negotiations to global warming to the international criminal justice system, this decline will have a continuing impact on the United States’ ability to have its point of view prevail.END QUOTE This what the President won’t be around to endure you andf I and our kids will pay for this for the rest of our collective lives…..
January 10th, 2007 at 7:44 pmYou leave
Comment by rachel b
No chance. You have stepped outside the rules. You will be gone.
January 10th, 2007 at 7:45 pmI just love the Google:
From the Washington Post, 12/18/04:
And more bullshit from Bush on 12/15/06 about being “best equipped”:
“…but Rumsfeld’s determination and leadership led to the best equipped, best trained and most experienced military in the world.”
January 10th, 2007 at 7:50 pmYou have stepped outside the rules.
Comment by Zoo — January 10, 2007 @ 7:45 pm
Whos rules ? Yours ?
Not good enough
January 10th, 2007 at 7:51 pmI have studied the rules and no where in there does it claim I have broken any
I have studied the rules and no where in there does it claim I have broken any
Comment by rachel b
Bullshit.
FYI:
January 10th, 2007 at 7:54 pmYou agree not to:
• Post any content to the Blog that is unlawful, racist, hateful, libelous, defamatory, obscene, or that intentionally discriminates against or harasses particular individuals or groups.
It’s okay, Rachel B says we shouldn’t worry how George runs the war.
January 10th, 2007 at 7:57 pmRachel b it’s really simple sand niggers a term you used paints you into a corner and your credibility has been reduced to pure dreck. But at least you are consistent…..
January 10th, 2007 at 7:58 pmIf that is so why do you worry about the safety of your children, in the below thread?
But yet you would also agree that Jesus can live forever.
January 10th, 2007 at 8:00 pmIraq signed a huge contract to buy military equipment… http://www.azzaman.com/english
January 10th, 2007 at 8:02 pmShrub says Canon Fodder do not need armor
January 10th, 2007 at 8:09 pmI am glad Bush is standing up to them instead of pissing his pants like a democrta would do.
George is farting on himself, drinking a diet coke, flying high in the Presidential Jet.
You see, Rachel B, he is not keeping you safe. The people that are serving in the forces, in the Secret Service, The CIA and the Border Patrol, the Police, those you don’t care about, are the ones keeping you safe.
As we saw on 9/11, George will be whisked away, far away from any action, and he will not be rushing to the bat cave, sliding down a pole, and leaping into a batmobile to come to Rachel B’s house and protect her crumb crunchers.
January 10th, 2007 at 8:13 pmAnd you know the insurgency is that much greater now than before. This is criminal. Bush is not a commander in chief.
January 10th, 2007 at 8:13 pmI will say this; We are better equiped than we were 10 years ago.
And those Cougers, man, they are like Cadillacs…….SWEET!!!!
January 10th, 2007 at 8:31 pmI will say this; We are better equiped than we were 10 years ago.
And those Cougers, man, they are like Cadillacs…….SWEET!!!!
Comment by robert
What about this situation?
I can’t stand the thought of it.
January 10th, 2007 at 8:35 pmIf enough of them refuse to deploy, they can stop this monstrosity and less can be done to them. Anyway, anything is better than being stuck in Iraq . . .
January 10th, 2007 at 8:41 pmI am contemplating the sacrafice of watching the chimp’s speech 2nite. Should be better on the comedy and satire angle then either Stewart or Colbert! Could also be a weight reduction process as I ordinarily puke out about five gallons if I watch him for more then ten minutes – that’s about 40 pounds. This man is as deep as one ounce of mineral oil spread across the surface of the Pacific Ocean (And that’s stretching it!).
January 10th, 2007 at 8:52 pmI saw your crap on the thread below as well, rachelb. What are you teaching your children? Lordy!! You are teaching them rascism and hate for fellow human beings is a GOOD THING. The fact that we have people who think like that in our world means that we have much work to do.
As for your children, well since they seem to be young ones at home, you really shouldn’t say crap about who should go and die and kill, right? MY CHILDREN are all of service age, not little ones at home. So when you spout your crap about dying and killing, remember those of us who are a bit older, have kids that will be OVER THERE, unlike yours. I have a few of my own in their 20’s.
So Mommy–remember that some of us really do love our kids and don’t want them to kill or be killed or learn that sh*t. My children don’t deserve to die in a war for a bunch of lies and neither do anyone else’s.
Get it now, youngster?
January 10th, 2007 at 9:02 pmWhat about this situation?
I can’t stand the thought of it.
Comment by Zoo
I would love to replace ALL 20,000 HMMWV (Hummers) replaced with Cougers. Anyone have an extra $10 billion.
Seriously, we do not have “perfect” gear, but we are constantly getting better gear. If the military had been equiped and continuously modernized in the time between Nam and now, maybe we would have “perfect”.
In short, yep, it sucks we ain’t got more of them.
January 10th, 2007 at 9:02 pmWHEN? EXACTLY WHEN will the good people of this nation stand up side by side millions strong and stop this insanity?
WHEN??????
January 10th, 2007 at 9:28 pmIt did me alot of good
Comment by rachel b
That’s a lie. Go away.
January 10th, 2007 at 9:34 pmIn short, yep, it sucks we ain’t got more of them.
Comment by robert
Will you be caught up in this escalation, Robert?
January 10th, 2007 at 9:35 pmRight now, I really can not answer that .
January 10th, 2007 at 9:46 pmBush just spoke tonight and it seems to me that it is more of the same; just with more drama.
January 10th, 2007 at 9:51 pmNo dialogue with Syria and Iran – instead, show them we will fight them if necessary.
He may have stated an oblique admittance “where mistakes were made, the responsibility lies with me” but he has not changed his stance, his approach, or his ideology.
He talks of this not being open ended, after years of “staying the course” but then he talks of more troops, more conflict and a bloody year to come.
BTW, Obama gave an interview from the capitol and he is amazingly articulate when speaking off the cuff: this is not a republican/democratic problem — this is realists versus ideologues.
just a quick comment about the speech…
i believe this is the first time i’ve heard the guy speak without that f’n smirky chump attitude…
and, i lost count of the times i added to his comments “3 years ago”…
January 10th, 2007 at 9:51 pmrobert, you can’t answer or you don’t know?…
January 10th, 2007 at 9:52 pmrobert, you can’t answer or you don’t know?…
Comment by katy
Shit. He knows, and he can’t say. Shit.
January 10th, 2007 at 9:55 pmyea, marie… even tweety was impressed with obama…
go barack!
zoo… … i don’t know what to say… “shit” works…
January 10th, 2007 at 10:02 pmrobert, you can’t answer or you don’t know?…
both, Seriously, both.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:08 pmJust a comment.. my first thought when watching the speech, is that Bush looked like a very frightened child…no smirk, no nervous laughter.. He looked like he very badly wanted to be anywhere but where he was.. like maybe the nearest bar..
January 10th, 2007 at 10:12 pmOld Hippie Woman,
That’s what I thought, too.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:15 pmold hippie woman, zoo -
me too, but it was still a relief from that g’dm smirk…
robert – good ’nuff… for now… keep us posted, right?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:18 pmboth, Seriously, both.
Comment by robert
Yeah.
Have you gotten anymore names for the list? Could you put up the link on the ThinkFast thread for the next few days, or any fairly troll-free threads?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:19 pmHillary Clinton just came out against escalation.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:24 pmkaty & zoo,
I’ll have a more definative answer after my brief in the morning.
Zoo, I’ll post the link again for you on the Thinkfast. I may add some of my ‘toons on the site too. Should be a fun way to piss off some progs ;)
January 10th, 2007 at 10:30 pmHillary Clinton just came out against escalation.
Comment by Marie
Good.
Still don’t want her to run for pres.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:31 pmZoo, I’ll post the link again for you on the Thinkfast. I may add some of my ‘toons on the site too. Should be a fun way to piss off some progs ;)
Comment by robert
Oy. Like katy said, keep us posted however you can.
Thanks, for putting up the link tomorow. Cartoons too, I guess. I won’t be around to whore it to the other commenters, so maybe katy could do that? Or someone?
I guess “whore” isn’t the best word…
January 10th, 2007 at 10:41 pmStill don’t want her to run for pres.
Comment by Zoo
See, I knew you had at least 1 good quality ;-)
January 10th, 2007 at 10:43 pmSee, I knew you had at least 1 good quality ;-)
Comment by robert
Yeah, and wouldn’t you like to know the rest?
MARIE, click on Robert’s name if you’d like to add your name to the TP email list. That way we can contact one another if we’d like. Robert has the security angle all figured out, and it’s FAB-U-LOUS. :)
January 10th, 2007 at 10:51 pm#2
now that’s some funny shit
January 10th, 2007 at 10:55 pmThis is a bait’n’switch information release.
FORGET THE NEW VEHICLES, any uparmoring would be better than NONE.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:21 pm• Any uparmor would be better than what they have.
• NO amount of armor is going to get the 370 metric tons of high-explosives back under UN or US guard. Bushco already passed it out.
No amount of ‘policy-making’ or strategizing ‘New Ways Forward’ turns an illegal war of aggression into a “war of defense.”
No amount of shrugged shoulders pubilc ‘mistake’ pleading covers betraying our troops by that ACT of command dereliction.
Bush Lied; Our Soldiers Died, and then he failed to order the munitions in the country, even though the head of the IAEA made an in-person visit on the Pentagon to tell Rumsfeld to write those orders.
Why didn’t Bushco write the orders?
Fomenting civil war requires arming the enemy — and arming the enemy is in fact TREASON.
January 11th, 2007 at 4:21 amArmor shmarmor
Comment by rachel b
Your lack of concern for the welfare and safety of our troops in disgusting, disgraceful, and unpatriotic. If dying is no big thing, then why don’t you go over there, rachel?
January 11th, 2007 at 8:22 am#57 If the dem congress is worried about getting them properly geared, they can always vote to increase funding for the war!!
January 11th, 2007 at 9:24 am#
Why don’t they just paint f*cking targets on the troops’ backs?
Comment by Zoo — January 10, 2007 @ 6:57 pm
Ahhhhh, what refreshing wisdom!!! LMAO.
January 11th, 2007 at 11:00 amWhy the Democrats will pay for the paint for the targets but not the armor?
January 11th, 2007 at 1:13 pmWhy the Democrats will pay for the paint for the targets but not the armor?
Comment by Sappy Guy
Since when have the Democrats voted to pay for the paint? It was the previous G(luttons)O(f)P(lenty) who told the soldiers who complained about their poor equipment, “YOu go to war with the Army you have –not the Army you want.” There is no way you can get around the cavalier attitude of Rumseld and the Bush administration towards the people who are actually risking their lives and limbs in Iraq. Get a grip on reality for once, Saphead!
January 11th, 2007 at 9:02 pm