Bush Warns Iran: ‘I Recently Ordered The Deployment Of An Additional Carrier Strike Group To The Region’
Bush Warns Iran: ‘I Recently Ordered The Deployment Of An Additional Carrier Strike Group To The Region’
President Bush’s address to the nation tonight included “some of his sharpest words of warning to Iran.” Bush accused the Iranian government of “providing material support for attacks on American troops” and vowed to “seek out and destroy the networks providing advanced weaponry and training to our enemies.”
Bush added, “I recently ordered the deployment of an additional carrier strike group to the region.” Watch it:
Also today, the White House released a Powerpoint presentation with details about the president’s new policy. “Increase operations against Iranian actors” was listed in the “Key Tactical Shifts” section.
The New York Times notes, “One senior administration official said this evening that the omission of the usual wording about seeking a diplomatic solution [to the Iranian nuclear stand-off] ‘was not accidental.’”
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Finally!
It appears that Congress is finally going to go toe to toe with the President about this.
All Bush wants to do is somehow save face that he hasn’t committed one of the worst disasters in the history of the country.
I finally heard Democrats and Republicans, after the President’s speech, talking about cutting funding etc.
Finally the disaster MAY be coming to an end.
January 10th, 2007 at 9:54 pmIraq is lost and has been lost… GWB is a madman.
January 10th, 2007 at 9:54 pmBush took responsiblity of all mistakes that were made….
January 10th, 2007 at 9:57 pmBush admits mistakes but sends in more troops despite what his generals, the troops, and the Iraqi and American people say. He “takes responsibility” but those words are meaningless since their are no consequences to his actions. He is a stubborn old man who needs to be forcibly removed from office.
January 10th, 2007 at 9:57 pmCongress has to stop him. We have to stop him!
January 10th, 2007 at 9:58 pmHe seems to be intent upon aggressive action against Iran. Will Congress give this president carte blanche to do what he wishes, as he did against Iraq, or will the members of Congress finally do its job by providing oversight against the executive branch?
January 10th, 2007 at 9:58 pmThe Army and Marines are tied down, but we still have air power. That’s the only way Bush can escalate. It looks to me that he’s planning to have a showdown with Congress; if Congress blinks, he’ll have a blank check for two more years.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:00 pmArticles of interest regarding Iran:
Ominous Signs of a Wider War – http://www.commondreams.org/views07/0109-29.htm
Distracting Congress from the Real War Plan – http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts01102007.html
January 10th, 2007 at 10:01 pmFile under: For What Its Worth…
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January 10th, 2007 at 10:02 pmActually, i think a war with Iran will be easier now than in 3 years. So we should attemp to fight WW3 now while we can still afford it.
Then, when President Hillary takes over, she wont have to deal with Iran.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:02 pmThere was not one ounce of sincerity in his admission of guilt for the chaos that has become Iraq. He read it as one would read a pre-scripted speech about why carrots are orange, or how duck down is impervious to water. It was not delivered with the concession of someone with the ability to empathize or hold a regard for other human beings. And it no longer surprises me because sociopaths lack the capacity.
The only thing Bush’s speech convinced me of – is the fact that he will go down in history as a failed leader.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:05 pm“I said to Maliki this has to work or you’re out,â€
January 10th, 2007 at 10:09 pmGreat democracy GWB has created, a 1 man vote for a nation.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again:
Bush and his neocon cronies act like they’re using the Book of Revelations as an instruction manual. If Bush or another highly-placed person within the administration isn’t actually the AntiChrist, they sure as hell are deluded enough to believe they are.
Time for this to stop. If our newly elected Democratic Congressmembers fail to step up to the plate, we’ll have to march on the White House in force.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:09 pmThe only thing Bush’s speech convinced me of – is the fact that he will go down in history as a failed leader.
Comment by unbelievable
What did you think of his demeanor? He seemed stiff and ill at ease — more than usual. The teleprompter is not for him.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:09 pmActually, i think a war with Iran will be easier now than in 3 years. So we should attemp to fight WW3 now while we can still afford it.
Then, when President Hillary takes over, she wont have to deal with Iran.
Comment by Queenie — January 10, 2007 @ 10:02 pm
Got it, looking at the deficit and the price of gasoline, better get World War Three started right away. Funny how ythe people who have no idea what war is and does to people are the most excited to get it going. Cool down, open another Bud and pop in a Chuck Norris film…
January 10th, 2007 at 10:11 pmSaudi Arabia probably does more to aid our enemies in Iraq than every other nation. They contribute fighters, weapons and millions of dollars.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:11 pmWhy didn’t Bush threaten them?
Bandar Bush probably knows the reason why.
Time for this to stop. If our newly elected Democratic Congressmembers fail to step up to the plate, we’ll have to march on the White House in force.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
I just heard on MSNBC, Scarborough I think, that there are protesters at the NW gate of the White House.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:12 pm“I said to Maliki this has to work or you’re out,â€
Well what about all those purple fingers? You mean to say, Maliki is serving only at His Majesties pleasure? Shocking. Let’s see what Maliki says about that one tomorrow. That’s an outrageous thing for one head of state to say about another!
January 10th, 2007 at 10:13 pm“I said to Maliki this has to work or you’re out,â€
January 10th, 2007 at 10:13 pmPity GWB didn’t say “when this fails I am out”.
Bush hid his smirk tonight, but not his hard head.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:18 pmHe may have stated an oblique admittance “where mistakes were made, the responsibility lies with me†but he has not changed his stance, his approach, or his ideology.
He talks of this not being open ended, after years of “staying the course†but then he talks of more troops, more conflict and a bloody year to come.
I doubt Bush persuaded many people that his “new” course is going to work any better than any of his previous “strategeries.” Because it is impossible. He has lost Iraq, his credibility and his presidency. In stead of a good head on his shoulders, he has a chip.
No diplomacy, no statesmanship, no attempt at all to resolve anything other than with force and bloodshed and threats for more.
There is only one solution as I see it – he has to leave office.
With this new carrier task force he may be looking for his “Gulf of Tonkin”. Iran has advanced silk worm missiles that can sink one of our ships. He knows that Congress is against this so he may try to provoke a war with Iran.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:18 pmIn his speech, Bush announces the positioning of a strike force within reach of Iran.
This is one of the steps Scott Ritter said to watch for as an indication that a US attack on Iran is imminent.
Iran is the real target. The troop surge talk is a smokescreen. The fact that more soldiers will die matters not to the leader.
“We are also taking other steps to bolster the security of Iraq and protect American interests in the Middle East. I recently ordered the deployment of an additional carrier strike group to the region. We will expand intelligence sharing – and deploy Patriot air defense systems to reassure our friends and allies. We will work with the governments of Turkey and Iraq to help them resolve problems along their border. And we will work with others to prevent Iran from gaining nuclear weapons and dominating the region.â€
January 10th, 2007 at 10:18 pm“If we increase our support at this crucial moment”
January 10th, 2007 at 10:20 pmThere has been nearly 4 years of crucial moments, milestones, turned corners. Iraq has only progressed further into chaos.
What did you think of his demeanor? He seemed stiff and ill at ease — more than usual. The teleprompter is not for him.
Comment by Zoo — January 10, 2007 @ 10:09 pm
I was just looking at the screen capture above and it’s not the usual grotesque visage. I’m guessing they wired his crotch to an electric shock device and threatened to use it if he didn’t read the speech verbatim and without his usual smug attitude? :D
He’s really aged a lot the last year. A far cry from the man who was perpetually tan, blonde and grinning about his 7.5 pound perch… I think he might finally get the reality that he’s not getting his DC memorial like Washington, Lincoln and Jefferson… If it were instead because of the people he’s killed in Iraq, I’d feel sorry for him. But we all know better by now…
Did you watch the whole 20 minutes?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:21 pmThe Stennis, nuclear powered carrier deployed in Jan 2007 part of Westpac 07 deployment.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:21 pm#22, CofL
January 10th, 2007 at 10:22 pmYes, I, too am fearful of what Bush’s next step is going to be. I heard Scott Ritter in recent weeks – and he is the only guy who called this Iraq war for what it is from the first time it was mentioned. He was right on everything. The efforts to smear him personally indicated how much Bush&Co knew they needed to shut him up.
I pay attention to what Ritter says.
Thanks for bringing out the Iran angle. I think that’s why Bush was so distracted — his mind was elsewhere. Would you buy a used war from this man? Bush confirms that he is going to lurch forward with a plan that has absolutely no chance of success if judged by its supposed objectives. Where were the succinct bullet points designed to convince a skeptical nation that he knows what he’s talking about? And Bush appeared nervous, his attention elsewhere. What does he know he’s not telling us? Bush just won’t admit he lost the war. With every passing day, Bush is sacrificing more American and Iraqi lives for a classic Rovian wedge issue. Time to brush up on impeachment.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:22 pmI just heard on MSNBC, Scarborough I think, that there are protesters at the NW gate of the White House.
Comment by Zoo — January 10, 2007 @ 10:12 pm
Suzanne Malveaux was giving Larry King her report from the White House and you could hear the protesters chanting pretty loudly. She mentioned them, but they never panned the camera off of her. It was definitely a crowd from the sound of all those voices.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:23 pmIt’s all a smokescreen for an attack on Iran. Staging a carrier strike group close to Iran is first necessary step, according to Scott Ritter.
The game plan is to attack Iran. He’s doing it for the Saudis, for the Saudi money. Trading our children’s blood for Saudi money.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:23 pmLISTEN PEOPLE….. with all the corruption and government waste
going on, supposely according to white house counselor “this time
will be different”
sounds to me like bush hitting the bottle again :) … famous last
words of a dry drunk or even worse.
maybe we could rely this time if honesty and integrity prevailed,
but with the amount of corruption just experienced with 109th
and many very questionable aspects related to bushs integrity,
don’t bet in will be any different this time, infact the likelyhood of
January 10th, 2007 at 10:23 pmmore of the same (like enron), lies, deception, corruption, & waste
is a significant if not guarnteed in bushs investement
Did you watch the whole 20 minutes?
Comment by unbelievable
Yes. It was horrifying. Someone else will have to do it next time.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:24 pmAll this is beyond comprehension. Bushistas will say ’see I told you the prez takes responsibility’…
The biggest problem is that somebody in the Bosh Administrations knows that you can sell the American people any kind of crap. They will eagerly eat lies and applaud to the greatest leaders insane moves.
I changed my opinion too.
1) Impeachment of the whole administration
2) Seizure of all assets of the Bush clan and all administration
members
3) Lobotomy for the republican leaders to prevent future
catastrophies like Iraq.
4) Nationalization of the defense and energy related industries
There is no time to waste, unless you don’t care about yourself, your children, your grandchildren, or any other human being.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:25 pmStop the brainwashing now. Ban Fox News. Seize all assets of Rupert Murdoch.
Lobotomy for all war mongerers.
Hillary Clinton just came out against escalation.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:26 pmBetter get prepared. According to Scott Ritter, when Bush attacks Iran, the first thing the Iranians will do is attack the oil fields in Saudi Arabia and cut the supply of oil to the US. The effect on our economy will be swift and intense. So get prepared.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:26 pmjoefriday sez:
Spot on, joe. It doesn’t matter how much Congress and the American people are against him…if he can succeed in provoking Iran into firing on our carriers, he can count on Congress falling back into line again. It will be 9/11 all over again.
Speaking of 9/11, the scene is perfect for another false-flag operation…Bush doesn’t need to count upon Iran firing on us, he can just fake it (as the Gulf of Tonkin incident was faked), and presto…he’s a war-time prezinint again.
I think I’m just going to sell the house, buy a big camper, load up the family and drive as far north as I can possibly get. I don’t want to be anywhere around when Chimpy gets his war with Iran.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:28 pmBlue tie; no cockey page turning; lack of texas drawl: the man is aware he’s in trouble.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:28 pmThere was nothing new in this charade.
You libs don’t get it. We have to win. Losing is not an option. No retreat, no Surrender. So go f*** yourselves.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:29 pmoh and i forgot… who makes bushs investment??
oh yah… :) for all the wonderful services that
we all desperately need, 100 year loans, pork,
generations of owing tens of 1000’s of dollars
IMPEACH THIS… THIS —– and i’ll leave that
label up to you
oh yah all the services we all desperately need
like 20, 30, 40,000 troops.
it’s already in the works draft tends to something
like age 55, nuclear , etc etc.
enough to make me —-
January 10th, 2007 at 10:30 pmeverything bush touches turns to shit
January 10th, 2007 at 10:31 pmTom Delay
I caught the title of your new book,
What was it.. Oh yeah – ”No Truth, No Conscience”
January 10th, 2007 at 10:32 pmShe mentioned them, but they never panned the camera off of her. It was definitely a crowd from the sound of all those voices.
Comment by unbelievable
It’s frickin’ news!! What the hell is wrong…..nevermind.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:33 pmYou libs don’t get it. We have to win. Losing is not an option. No retreat, no Surrender. So go f*** yourselves.
Comment by tom delay — January 10, 2007 @ 10:29 pm
Appropriate screen name troll. One morally bankrupt person assuming the identity of another.
“Winning ” is subjective. Even if you think you’ve won, it doesn’t count unless the “terrorists” think you’ve won. And that is simply NOT going to happen.
Therefore, better get out while we’re only this far behind.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:34 pm“…the omission of the usual wording about seeking a diplomatic solution [to the Iranian nuclear stand-off] ‘was not accidental.’â€
but we’ve all heard the news and read the letters and know all about iran’s attempts to reach out and seek diplomacy…
it’s another attempt to bully… plain and simple…
January 10th, 2007 at 10:36 pmIt’s frickin’ news!! What the hell is wrong…..nevermind.
Comment by Zoo — January 10, 2007 @ 10:33 pm
Yes, it’s that damn liberal media again…
January 10th, 2007 at 10:37 pmHitler said that if Germany could not win the war, he will drag half the world into the abyss with him. Bush is doing the Hitler encore-all the way.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:37 pm
Keep up the pressure of email’s, phone call’s and hitting the street’s….Lives are at stake and with pressure we will win and the bush regime will be out….Blessings all
January 10th, 2007 at 10:37 pmIf we lose then the communists will take over southeast Asia! Then, we’ll really be in trouble!
Ooops. Wrong war, but same lies…
January 10th, 2007 at 10:38 pmWhat gets me is the myriad spins the media puts out there – rather than tell the truth – which they all know – that this is the first steps towards attacking Iran – the media plays with words – for that alone the talking heads and heads of media should be put in jail.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:38 pmBush is nuts. He is hoping for an Iranian strike against the US ships in the region . If they dont strike soon enough then Bush will have the ships attacked by covert agents. This will give him the go ahead to use nukes against Iran. It is on , hold on to your asses. The lunatic must be removed from the white house, ASAP.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:39 pmIf the Madman in the White House provokes a war with Iran then I think that would be enough for the Congress to initiate Impeachment proceedings against Bush. The big problem with that is that we get Cheney. God, what a mess!
January 10th, 2007 at 10:39 pmA War with Iran easy? You’re out’a your mind.
World War 3? It would only serve to jeapordize US interestes in the Mid East and World. Talk about scuttling all that is left of US influence in the world, and taking a fist to America’s (and the West’s) global economy arrangements.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:39 pmEven Bush and Chaney know Iraq is lost-so it is off to Iran to redeem themselves. They are setting this up with–Iran is funding/fueling the problems in Iraq. Add an “attack ” by Iran against one of our warships and bada bing.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:39 pmThe Saudis summoned L’il Dick and warned that if Sadr wasn’t put in check…
…The Bush/Cheney trust fund would be effectively dissolved…
…al Maliki has issued a warning to the Mahti (Sadr) militia to either disband or face the wrath of America and Iraqi Army units…
…Bushiva sends 21,000 more troops, nd threatens Iran…
hmmmm…
January 10th, 2007 at 10:40 pmI switched channels at the wrong time, but I heard a reference to “NOW WE ARE ENGAGED” in Bush’s speech.
“Now we are engaged” are lines from the Gettysburg Address. This president takes the cake for stealing things.
I just wonder where Bush has been for almost four years? He’s had plenty of time to tweak this war, and he hasn’t. Don’t you think it’s a little late in the game to tweak this war?
Donald Trump was willing to forgive Miss America’s youthful indiscretions: drinking and partying. Yeah, she’s very, very young so the slate was wiped clean with a little rehab. That was the case, too, with George. In fact, the slate was wiped clean at the advanced age of 40 with his partying and drinking. He said he found Jesus, and all was forgiven.
THIS TIME THE SLATE CAN’T BE WIPED CLEAN. George, you just shouldn’t be allowed a second chance. George, you’re no longer young at 60; no youthful indiscretions here, and who knows if drinking destroyed your brain cells. Regardless, you had plenty of chances to change course, and you didn’t. Time is up! This time no one is going to rescue you.
You made your bed so you must LIE in it.
Isn’t it interesting to note that tonight’s speech took place in the White House “LIE”brary. What a fitting place!!!! The “LIE”brary speaks volumes about you and your speech.
John
January 10th, 2007 at 10:41 pm#37: Stupid Moron.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:41 pmThe war in Iraq WAS LOST 2003 when your a$$hole invaded a sovereign nation based on stinking lies. The majority of the world was against it and your a$$hole was warned about the consequences.
People like you need a lobotomy.
Sharon Cox
I don’t have your optimism.
Unless millions of people were to pour into the streets tomorrow, nothing will stop Bush from attacking Iran.
The congress is playing with words about troop surges. Everyone is focusing on Baghdad.
That’s the sleight of hand maneuver. Look over here everyone, get all upset about a troop surge, while I drop bunker busters on Iran.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:41 pmthey don’t know what’s news unless there tenders tell them its news – Larry King didn’t bat an eye when you cold hear the ruckus in the background. He wasn’t even curious.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:42 pmHow do you like being held hostage America?
According to Failure in Chief the “direction of the war on terror and the safety of America will be determined by the outcome in Iraq” Then adds that it is up to the Iraqi’s themselves to make it a success.
There it is America, according to the preznit our destiny is in the hands of Iraqis.
LUNTAIC ALERT
January 10th, 2007 at 10:42 pmThe other alternative to Bush provoking a war with Iran is for him to get Israel to do our dirty work. Something they just might do. If that happens then the S**T will really hit the fan.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:42 pmJohn Gilpins
Thanks for the reference.
Maybe Bush’s use of words from the Gettysburg Address isn’t hutzpah -
It’s a message from him – he’s telling us he’s planning to widen the war to Iran.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:43 pmNot only did he get the Shia and Shiites mixed up (anybody else catch when he was talking about the mosque bombing? “The Shias blew up one of the most holy Shia shrines”) He outlined no plan of victory. It was a “stay the course” M2 speech. What a maroon. Two more years?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:44 pmPersian Gulf 2007
Iraq WMD 2003
Gulf of Tonkin 1964 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_Incident
They learned from the masters:
Gleiwitz Incident 1939 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident
January 10th, 2007 at 10:45 pmI watched the whole thing.. and I will pay for it with horrendous nightmares tonight, I am sure. Nope.. nothing new from the boy king.. but he didn’t look comfortable and didn’t look at all confident.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:45 pmI love all the Dems.. and the Pubs too, who are coming out against this insanity. Although I wish they’d done so years ago, I still love the parade coming down the gangplank.
Soon there will be no one left on the ship but the Chimp and his entourage which grows smaller each day.
but we’ve all heard the news and read the letters and know all about iran’s attempts to reach out and seek diplomacy…
Correction: We’ve heard about those things, but do you really think the majority of America knows any of it?
it’s another attempt to bully… plain and simple…
Comment by katy
Absolutely — by the most powerful bully on the planet.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:46 pmJohn Gilpin
Great point about Gettysburg address reference.
It appears Bush must be sending a secret message – that he’s preparing for battle.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:47 pmDoktor Texas
The mix up of Shia and Sunni is intentional to confuse Americans. The plan is to fight the Saudi Sunni fight against Shia Iran. The more he can confuse the two the more he thinks Americans will sit back and believe his bs.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:48 pm“I said to Maliki this has to work or you’re out,â€
“because King Abdullah told Dead Eye Dick: you’d better start blowing away Shiites or your’e both out:
January 10th, 2007 at 10:50 pmBush is a naked liar.
Of the five factions fighting in Iraq (SCIRI, Da’wa, Sadrists, Sunni insurgency, al-Queda), the first two are allied with both Iran and the US, the third and fourth oppose both US and Iranian domination, and the fifth consider Iranian Shi’ites to be infidels.
Who is Iran supporting? SCIRI and Da’wa? They’re not attacking us. Sadr? Not likely, considering he’s an Iraqi nationalist. The Sunni insurgency or al-Queda? Not a chance.
Bush is inventing Iranian agents out of whole cloth.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:50 pmWell I think this is going to end up in the streets….
January 10th, 2007 at 10:50 pmThe dilemma for Dems is that alot of them are funded by AIPAC. So they want to believe the bs from Israel and Bush that Iran is the evil axis. The Dems are going to be forced to choose between the lives of American troops and their pocketbooks. Which do they think will win? They will try to finesse this whole thing away to some minor issue about troop surges. And Bush is counting on it.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:51 pmChildrenofLir – look on the bright side he knows more about Shia and Shiite than he did in 2003… feel the pleasant glow of the soft bigotry of low expectations….
January 10th, 2007 at 10:52 pmThe fact is everyone knows the truth about this story, that it’s all about attacking Iran. Bush knows, the media knows, Congress knows, most of America knows except for a handful in a cornfield in Iowa and a few others in a cotton field in Texas. Yet we proceed on to armageddon. And for no reason.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:54 pmWhat the cold war couldn’t do in four decades, this utter failure of a human being has done in three years. Getting the world to the brink of a thermo nuclear war.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:54 pmAnd if nobody stops those criminal fascists WWIII it will be.
Only this time the World will be against the United States.
Go and do what you always wanted to do, as long as you can.
ChildrenofLir sez:
I don’t think Chimpy’s clever enough to reveal his intentions so obliquely, especially since we know he’s planning to widen the war to Iran because he pretty much said so in plain language.
Chimpy doesn’t do subtle.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:54 pmTerrific speech. I remember being in New York on 9/11/2001, witnessing the carnage perpetrated by the terrorists and realizing that we were at war with a section of the population of the world that was seriously dysfunctional and dangerous. I knew on that morning that we would be at military, economic, political, and philosophical war for a long time to come. Thank God we have all been blessed with a president with the courage and fortitude to pursue this war against our common enemy. At the time of the Korean War, Harry S Truman was the most unpopular president in U.S. history, according to polls. Truman has since been vindicated by history’s sober and impartial judgment. So will be the case with President George W. Bush. History’s vindication is inevitable.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:56 pmI’m glad that someone else caught that sabre rattling against Iran.
My video excerpt of the surge speech is up, along with some thumbtack observations. My apologies for the poor sound quality. Actually, I wanted to upload the longer and funnier version but I’d exceeded Youtube’s ten minute/100 meg limit.
I’ll be writing about the Splurge later on in Assclowns of the Week.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:57 pmTripMaster Monkey
Bush knows what he’s doing. He may not be articulate. But he’s the mafia don, who knows EXACTLY what he wants. Money and power. And he has speech writers to give him the quotes he needs.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:58 pmExley
January 10th, 2007 at 10:58 pmAnd did you know that the world trade center was a planned demolition.
Comment by Exley — January 10, 2007 @ 10:56 pm
Just as history has vindicated Hitler, right? Riiight.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:59 pmSo will be the case with President George W. Bush. History’s vindication is inevitable.
Comment by Exley
WRONG.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:01 pmComment by Exley — January 10, 2007 @ 10:56 pm
Hey, a$$whole, how much did you get paid to write that tribute?
January 10th, 2007 at 11:01 pmYou libs don’t get it. We have to win. Losing is not an option. No retreat, no Surrender. So go f*** yourselves.
Comment by tom delay
By it do you mean oil?
January 10th, 2007 at 11:02 pmhttp://www.strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/pubs/display.cfm?pubID=705
Heres a study on oil. (52 pages)
The PDF version here.
http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/pubs/download.cfm?q=705
Exley, I knew Harry Truman, Harry Truman was a friend of mine. George W Bush is no Harry Truman. You however are a f***wit.
Harry Truman: “The buck stops here”
George W Bush: “Buck? Where? Pass me that assault rifle, Dick! Hey watch where you are shooting that thing”
January 10th, 2007 at 11:02 pmOkay, ChildrenofLir, whatever you say…You are the modern day equivalent of a Holocaust-denier.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:02 pm“We go forward with trust that the Author of Liberty will guide us through these trying hours.” who do we thank for this piece of bombast?
January 10th, 2007 at 11:03 pmExley
By comparing Bush to Truman you must be referring to the dropping of nukes on Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
So you agree that Bush is preparing to nuke Iran.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:05 pmHey, a$$whole, how much did you get paid to write that tribute?
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
I don’t get the feeling Exley is a self-respecting whore.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:05 pmThank God we have all been blessed with a president with the courage and fortitude to pursue this war against our common enemy. -Exley.
As Brent Scowcroft stated, Saddam was a problem, but not a problem of terrorism. The war in Iraq, and destabilizing the middle east would undermine the war on terrorism. The common enemy was a rag tag bunch of radical Arabs led by a construction magnates son. Now, we do have a bigger problem thanks to the radical reactionist neo-cons and their planned calsh of civilizations.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:08 pmExley sez:
Lazy, exley…you’re supposed to wait a little while before you cut straight to the anti-semitism accusations. If you overuse the anti-semitism gambit, it is revealed as the obvious farce it is.
You ought to read your COINTELPRO manual a little more carefully. If you keep screwing up like this, the checks will just stop coming.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:09 pmWow, ChildrenofLir…Are you actually condemning the then President of the United States’ andd Democratic Pary leader’s conduct of the war against Imperial Japan in World War II?
January 10th, 2007 at 11:10 pmChimpy is also escalating with Iran. His new Iran strategy is to send another carrier group there, and cut off diplomacy with Iran.
This means war with Iran…perhaps imminently. And war with Iraq AND Iran could blow up into a regional war…or even a nuclear war.
Chimpy is a Rapture Republican who talks to God and says God talks back to him. Chimpy is going to get us all killed, he is a psychopath.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:12 pmexley, youre on the wrong forum to find support for your scumbag administration.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:12 pmOkay, ChildrenofLir, whatever you say…You are the modern day equivalent of a Holocaust-denier.
Comment by Exley
Aw hell, stop baiting and switching Exley, that stuff is really old and lame.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:14 pmNow, think of this from Iran’s point of view. War is inevitable. Bush will attack Iran the same way he attacked Iraq. Iran will be totally destroyed.
Would it not make sense to strike first? If Iran threw everything it had against one, or both Carrier Groups located within the narrow confines of the Persian Gulf, would it not be able to sink one or more ships with all hands on board?
Since the outcome for Iran is the same whether it strikes first or not, which course of action makes the most sense for Iran?
If they choose a preemptive strike, thousands of U.S. sailors will die in one day.
This will be part of the price for the PNAC’s determination to spread American Imperialism.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:14 pmExley
January 10th, 2007 at 11:16 pmI’m asking you if you’re Truman allusion refers to Bush nuking Iran.
Lobotomy for Exley.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:16 pmExley-History’s Verdict will be to dump Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rummy and the rest of the lying greedy murderous weasels onto or into the Trash dump of History. That will be the verdict. No vindication as you so wish.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:17 pmslum sez:
He’s not looking for support, slum…he’s looking to carry the administration’s water. His motives for doing so are a point of speculation, although he’s not really skilled enough to be doing this professionally.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:18 pm94
January 10th, 2007 at 11:18 pmIran will wait for Bush to attack and then respond by attacking Saudi Arabia’s oil fields and cutting off oil to the US.
Aw hell, stop baiting and switching Exley, that stuff is really old and lame.
Comment by Zep Tepi
Old and lame is Exley’s specialty.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:18 pmNice try, TPM. But my posting has nothing to do with charges of anti-Semitism. Rather, it has to do with the obvious parellels between those who disingenuously deny a historical certainties in order to secure some cheap, transitory political point.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:19 pmExley
“..disingenously deny a historical certainties in order to secure some cheap, transitory political point”
I think you’re describing your own initial blotted post, although it’s hard to tell because of all the bombast and bs in there
January 10th, 2007 at 11:22 pmExley- How about you explain that last post in a coherent form. Not sure what you’re point is, that is if you have one.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:22 pmBriseadh na Faire sez:
Whether Iran strikes or not, the outcome will be the same. If Iran fails to rise to the bait, this administration will stage a false-flag attack upon the carriers (probably with the expert assistance of Mossad). Either way, those carriers are sacrificial lambs which will bleed upon the altar of the PNAC.
At this point, war with Iran is inevitable, and as there are ZERO troops remaining in our all-volunteer army, the draft will be reinstated. When that happens, I will probably be going to Gitmo, as I will refuse to participate in Chimpy’s ’sacrifice’.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:24 pmNice try, TPM. But my posting has nothing to do with charges of anti-Semitism. Rather, it has to do with the obvious parellels between those who disingenuously deny a historical certainties in order to secure some cheap, transitory political point.
Comment by Exley
Yeh, well stop it. The GOP has made things worse, not better, no matter how hard you try to relate it past history. Stick with today, because when you start looking to the past for rationalizations, you repeat the same mistakes.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:24 pmYour are trying to sound clever, but your not that clever Exley.
Say what you mean and mean what you say, otherwise don’t say anything at all and stop with your rhetorical BS.
Good god man.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:26 pmThis is the first graph of Howard Fineman’s piece tonight:
Jan. 10, 2007 – George W. Bush spoke with all the confidence of a perp in a police lineup. I first interviewed the guy in 1987 and began covering his political rise in 1993, and I have never seen him, in public or private, look less convincing, less sure of himself, less cocky. With his knitted brow and stricken features, he looked, well, scared. Not surprising since what he was doing in the White House library was announcing the escalation of an unpopular war.
Great piece well worth reading: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16568507/site/newsweek/
January 10th, 2007 at 11:26 pmExley, 9/11 was perpetrated by 19 Saudis lead by a guy in Afghanistan.
All we needed to do was round up those who were responsible (apart from the 19 dead ones) and put them in jail.
War happens between countries, not between a country and a few hundred nuts.
If you’re itching for war, then just admit it. You don’t need an excuse. We understand you better than you understand yourself.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:27 pmExley
So by drawing a parallel between Truman’s nuking of Japan and Bush’s imminent nuking of Iran, you are saying it’s a historical certainty.
The certainty of Bush nuking IRan is directly proportional to the stupidity of Americans like you.
Historical certainty is dependent on human stupidity and the failure of humans to learn from history.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:28 pm#95, ChildrenofLir…No. My point is that during the Korean conflict, which began in 1950 — some five years after the end of World War II — and two years after Truman was re-elected, President Truman was immensely unpopular, according to the Gallup poll. As I recall, his job disapproval rating in 1951 or 52 (From memory, I believe it was 1952) bottomed out at 29%. and in the 1950 midterm elections, the Democrats got thumped, losing a net five Senate seats and 28 in the House….Yet, today, hitsory’s sober judgment recognizes that President Truman is one of the great presidents in U.S. history. So will be the case with President George W. Bush…
January 10th, 2007 at 11:28 pmTripMaster Monkey
Good point to consider regarding the false-flag attacks – ala Gulf of Tonkin affair
January 10th, 2007 at 11:29 pmTrip – I don’t see any draft at all. That’s the way to ignite the street demos. Chimpy will start the Iranian show on a Gleiwitz Incident and then lob aircraft and tactical nukes. There’ll be little of no ground attack IMHO, the Iranian terrain, the readiness of the US ground forces, the readiness of the Iranian army. Nope if he does anything, it will be remote and nuclear-tipped.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:30 pmIf the Republicans would have held those responsible for the false pre-war intelligence that took us into Iraq..this group of patholigical liars and Iraqi killers would not have been able to continue to lead our nation into Iran.
Jail the right wing radicals.
FASTER PLEASE
Phase II of the SEnate Select Committee on INtelligence!
January 10th, 2007 at 11:32 pmTerrytheTurtle
Good points. I agree it will be remote and nuclear-tipped. And the media will not report it.
I don’t think Bush is concerned about a draft. He’s been paid to bring the battle to Iran and that’s what he’ll do before his term is out. I don’t think he gives a damn about drafts or no drafts.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:33 pmWhen I stabilize my condition, I will post again.
Comment by Exley
Oh for f*ck’s sake, don’t do that shit.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:34 pmIsn’t it bad enough when the trolls impersonate us?
Bush is a member of a death cult which seeks the end of the world.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:34 pmHe has allocated to himself absolute power. He listens to no other. He pursues war to the exclusion of all else. He is trying very hard to seal our fate, to hasten along the lord, to force his timeline on Jesus. It occurs to me that George W Bush is possibly the antichrist.
#111…That’s like comparing presidents to numbers.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:35 pmExley, just how does it feel to be a prostitute?
Do you enjoy whoring yourself for Bush?
January 10th, 2007 at 11:37 pm#118
January 10th, 2007 at 11:38 pmSkull & Bones death cult
#120…
That is not the real BnF.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:39 pmThat is not the real BnF.
Comment by Exley
I think it is. Answer the questions.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:42 pmSolitaire sez:
As I have said numerous times here and elsewhere, if Bush isn’t actually the AntiChrist, it certainly seems as if he believes himself to be. This is a guy that hears voices and treats the Book of Revelations like it is an instruction manual.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:45 pmWhoring for Bush–whee, yippee.
Comment by Exley
Please stop doing that. I frickin’ hate sticking up for Exley.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:45 pmExley
It does not follow logically that since one President was in disfavor and then praised by historians, that another President in disfavor will be praised. Illogical.
However, the nuclear connection between the two Presidents has a logical force. Many have argued that the Japanese had already been defeated when Truman dropped the bombs, and that the bombings had nothing to do with saving American troops.
Similarly Bush has no reason to bomb Iran, except that he’s been paid to do it.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:45 pmWhen I was in grade school, one of our homework assignments was to memorize the Gettysburg Address. Talk about dumb! Then we were graded as to our memorization skills–one-by-one. When I think about it now, it was a waste of time as I spent days memorizing the Gettysburg Address.
That’s the only reason the lines: “Now we are engaged” popped up in my mind. I certainly wasn’t there in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania when Lincoln delivered the address in the 1860s.
I hope 100 years down the road grade school kids won’t be given homework assignments to memorize any lines from Bush’s speeches. No! No!
I take that back. MAYBE HIS RESIGNATION SPEECH:
“I apologize for my misdeeds, and I have come to the realization that I was not qualified to lead our country. Officials in my administration, including myself, missed the mark in even minimal leadership skills. Am I the worst president in the history of the United States? Yes, I am the worst by a wide, wide, wide, wide margin. I totally agree. Unfortunately, Fortune 500 money bought you a bad president. I’ll now trot off to Texas wearing a black hat. Black hats are for the bad guys, and I am a bad guy.”
John
January 10th, 2007 at 11:48 pmhmmm…If Bush nukes Iran, Iraqi oil will be even more valuable….
January 10th, 2007 at 11:49 pmThe only thing Bush’s speech convinced me of – is the fact that he will go down in history as a failed leader.
Comment by unbelievable — January 10, 2007 @ 10:05 pm
He is a failed human being, and he will eventually be regarded as the greatest pariah in U.S. history.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:50 pmDid Bush just give away our war plans to the “terrorists”?
If this was the NY Times some might call it treasonous.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:51 pmExley
It makes sense that you like Bush. You exhibit the same double talk and lack of substance.
As they say in Texas
You’re all hat, no cattle.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:51 pmYou think he is gonna don a cape and save your ass when the time comes?
January 10th, 2007 at 11:54 pmExley’s comment #75 is off the charts, even by his usual standards. Bush vindicated by history? Bizarre.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:54 pmJohn Gilpins,
A resignation speech? That’s hopeful!
Surely, Chimpy McJumpsuit, being a superhero, would never resign?
My bet is he’ll roll up to a press conference one day totally drunk. Then he will have an excuse for everything. You can’t criticise someone with a disease.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:55 pmChildrenofLir,
I agree with your basic premise that just because one second-term ypresident who was unpopular in his day (Truman) necessarily means that another second-term president who is lagging in the polls will similarly be vindicated by history’s judgment. But, in my opinion, given the parallels between Truman’s conduct of the Korean War and the Cold War and Bush’s conduct of the Battle of Iraq in the War on Terror , it is most likely Bush, like Truman, will be vindicated – if Iraq becomes a free and democratic state, allied with the civilized world in the battle against international fundamentalist Islamist terrorism.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:55 pmThe victoryfor which this President will be remembered in history is – the discrediting and end of the neocon warmongers frim ever having influence in the US again.
The plan laid out tonight can no more provide a stable united Iraq than I can turn lead to gold. The surge is not enough to accomplish ANYTHING militarily.
It is just more of the same coward and his tough talk (real toough with our children’s bones). They really do hope to expand this war to Iran. But after a short stint of popularity among the faithful, the American people will be so sick of these warmongers, that they all may be banished to Iraq!! — and tortured by refusing them to play Stratego, the bloodthirsty lot.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:56 pm#134, Zep…You are questioning a name-jacker. I have never used the term “da man” in my life. :)
January 10th, 2007 at 11:58 pmLet’s see what actual historians (not amateurish wannabes) are saying about George Bush’s presidency:
President Bush likes to think that he is doing what’s right even if the public doesn’t. But he has misconstrued American history. Presidents get points when they take action that the public isn’t ready to accept. They don’t receive credit for sticking with an action that is clearly discredited.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:00 amAn example. Harry Truman, with whom President Bush likes to compare himself [...] wisely changed course and redefined American objectives once it became clear that we could not secure all of Korea. President Bush might take note of this if he really wants to emulate his hero Harry Truman.
George Bush’s Misplaced Hope that Historians Will Rank Him Higher than His Contemporaries
Exley
Again, you’re logic is weak. It does not follow one from the other.
If you want parallels – compare Iraq war to the Vietnam war.
But you won’t will you. Because the Vietnam war was a failure, started on lies and deception, just like the Iraq war.
Several million Vietnamese died needlessly. We haven’t reached millions yet in Iraq, but if Bush has his way, we will reach that number sooner rather than later.
There’s your logical connection.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:02 amLouisville
January 11th, 2007 at 12:02 amThat’s good to hear.
Great post’s all, well, all most all…May I offer up a little bit up of a solution…..Massive email’s and phone call’s again tomorrow….A few minutes less time spent here and more on action please….Just do it, do what you can and watch the changes….Acting and being defeated will not give us the big win which is to get these crazy basterd’s out of office…..Start tomorrow, call the house and senate…What you and I do will save lives, our country and the world…Blessings..P.S. piss on the troll’s they are a waste of you’re good time….
January 11th, 2007 at 12:03 amOne more article about historians’ judgment of Pres Bush’s time at the helm:
Of 415 historians who expressed a view of President Bush’s administration to this point as a success or failure, 338 classified it as a failure and 77 as a success. (Moreover, it seems likely that at least eight of those who said it is a success were being sarcastic, since seven said Bush’s presidency is only the best since Clinton’s and one named Millard Fillmore.)
January 11th, 2007 at 12:03 amHistorians vs. George W. Bush
Truman was unpopular but he was competent. He led the U.S. through the end of WWII after the death of FDR. Bush is truly an incompetent president that started a war for no reason at all and has very little understanding of history, diplomacy, or another functions of gov’t.
In fact, I imagine in 50 years when historians get to look at the totality of his administration he’ll be considered much worse then he is now.
The real issue though isn’t his place in history or popularity but that his policies have weakened the country and made the world a ore dangerous place to live.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:03 amI don’t hate Bush, I cannot hate any person.
I do think that he has lost his way. May he, the true light, that what George does not yet know, embrace him and show him the path.
Speak simply Exley, for you are not in equilibrium.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:04 amThis just in from Captain Obvious:
The NORTH KOREANS started the Korean war.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:08 amWhat did you think of his demeanor? He seemed stiff and ill at ease — more than usual. The teleprompter is not for him.
Comment by Zoo — January 10, 2007 @ 10:09 pm
Agreed! Am now watching the replay on MSNBC. If I didn’t know better, I would have said he was rehearsing before going live. He did seem nervous at first. One other observation I made is this: I could just see Cheney telling him to get out there in front of the camera and deliver the damned speech. Or else.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:09 amFor misleading the American people, and launching the most foolish war since Emperor Augustus in 9 B.C sent his legions into Germany and lost them, Bush deserves to be impeached
January 11th, 2007 at 12:10 am–Martin van Creveld, a professor of military history at the Hebrew University, and the only non-American author on the U.S. Army’s required reading list for officers.
Costly Withdrawal Is the Price To Be Paid for a Foolish War
Comment by Martin of Earth — January 10, 2007 @ 11:27 pm
That is the least likely possibility. 9/11 was more likely perpetrated by a handful of individuals within the Bush Administration.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:10 amCAPTION CONTEST:
I liked Preparation H so much, I bought the Company!
January 11th, 2007 at 12:12 am#149 – WC
I thought he looked like a man who’d lost his nerve. That makes me more worried than if he’d had his usual swagger and smirk.
Goodnight all!
January 11th, 2007 at 12:14 am#151, Again, impostor, please stop impersonating BnF…”Name-jacking” is the lowest form of argument.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:14 amI missed the whole damn thing. Effing played piano instead.
So they are really gonna blow up Iran now?
January 11th, 2007 at 12:15 am#144 “Great post’s all”
Thank you, Ms. Cox.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:16 amGeorge W. Bush– a great president?
Does a great president joke to our country that he hasn’t found weapons of mass destruction? Ha! Ha! Belly-laugh! Belly-laugh!
That’s a funny one, George, especially when 3,000 Americans have died. If you think that’s funny, it’s not.
John
January 11th, 2007 at 12:17 amCaption Contest:
“Sure our Iraq strategy has hit a few icebergs along the way, well one really big f***er, but even though we’re down at the bow and there’s a 200ft gash in the side, we’re not just staying the course we’re surging ahead. I know you’ll back your captain all the way as we pour on more steam. Right then, the bar’s open, mine’s a double and your kid’s are paying.”
January 11th, 2007 at 12:18 amYes, Mr. Samsa, we have paid the price before and it seems we will do so again. It’s not an impossible sum. There will be a heavy price to pay to walk away from the mess that Georgie made, but it is inevitible. Iraq is not our country. Iraq will not stand for our occupation indefinitely. If leaving is defined as losing, we are therefore bound to lose. Another brilliant stroke of phrasing from our illustrious death cult leaders in the White House.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:21 amI think this is the worst government the US has ever had in its more than 200 years of history. It has engaged in extraordinarily irresponsible policies not only in foreign policy and economics but also in social and environmental policy
January 11th, 2007 at 12:30 am–George A. Akerlof, American Nobel Prize laureate for Economics
US Nobel Laureate Slams Bush Gov’t as “Worst†in American History
I don’t know if anyone has pointed this out,but,Bush said he was sending “ATLEAST” 20,000 troops.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:30 amI don’t think that was a mistake. That could mean 40,000 or more.
And the surge, which suggests a short period of time, is more like 18-24 months, more than enough to leave a huge turd in the next administration’s swimming pool. George ducks out to Alabama one more time!
January 11th, 2007 at 12:33 amI really cannot believe this guy leads our country. Who has killed more of his own, innocent civilains, and the so-called enemy, Saddam or George W? Who’s neck should that noose have been around?
January 11th, 2007 at 12:36 amThere will be a heavy price to pay to walk away from the mess that Georgie made, but it is inevitible. Iraq is not our country.
Comment by Solitaire — January 11, 2007 @ 12:21 am
I wholly agree. The outcome is inevitable: The US will eventually withdraw from Iraq, leaving Iraq in a worst state than it was when invaded.
The occupation has been an absolute disaster. The reconstruction has come to naught. The new Iraqi government is nominal. Iraqi democracy is a farce.
But Bush cultists are still in denial, thinking Iraq can be modeled after the US. Of course, asking Iraqis their opinion never crosses a true cultist’s mind.
And now, here you have them, supporting saber-rattling against Iran. Nothing has been learnt. Nothing.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:46 amI thought he looked like a man who’d lost his nerve. That makes me more worried than if he’d had his usual swagger and smirk.
Goodnight all!
Comment by Zoo — January 11, 2007 @ 12:14 am
We are not the only ones. From crooksandliars.com:
Even Hinderaker thought he bombed:
In the past, I’ve often said that President Bush has been more effective in televised speeches than he has been given credit for. Not tonight. I thought he came across as stiff, nervous, and anxious to get it over with. The importance of the issue seemed to overwhelm the President’s ability to communicate. I suspect that only a few listeners absorbed more than a general impression of what the new strategy is all about.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:47 amWho’s neck should that noose have been around?
Comment by TBP — January 11, 2007 @ 12:36 am
I ask myself that all the time.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:47 amThank you Outraged for all you are doing….Now more than ever we all must do what we can when we can and often…….Please keep us posted on your marches…..Blessings
January 11th, 2007 at 12:48 amMartin,
Bush’s disease? Maybe the disease is:
1. HOOF AND MOUTH DISEASE
2. MAD COW DISEASE
Bush sure didn’t look very good tonight. Thanks to the poster for the Howard Fineman article. Mad Cow Disease might aptly describe Bush’s appearance tonight.
John
January 11th, 2007 at 12:54 amBush is completely insane, but most in the Congress are clueless and still do not understand that Dubya and Dicky must resign or be impeached!
January 11th, 2007 at 1:19 amThis has been 6 weeks since I originally posted this prediction. I have posted it 5 times, and will continue to post it as things progress. This prediction is not in a prophetic or in a religous sense, but from a good understanding of world affairs and a greater undserstanding of natural progression and the occult. Once people start realizing that this escalation has nothing to do with oil, religion, terroism, or our troops, but instead is to destablize the region as apart of a plan to mold the world to something that you may not like, will you start to understand. And it’s going to happen.
The Military and the Iraq Commission will deliver a recommendation that 20,000 additional troops be deployed to Iraq as the Bush administration wanted. This new deployment will not be deployed to hot spots in Iraq, but will mass on the Iraqi/Iran border. A false flag operation will coincide just prior too, or during the deployment phase of this operation.
This false flag operation will be a nuclear/dirty bomb on Israeli soil that will be detonated between Hebron/Bethlehem and Jerusalem. It will be determined that Syria and Iran instigated the attack. The Temple of the Mount will be destroyed, then Israel will attack Iran and Syria, and the United States will attack Iran, concurrently. Because of the middle-east crises, oil production will cease, causing the worlds economies to collapse in a domino effect.
Once Syria and Iran have been fully engaged, China will see this as a direct threat, and enter the war. Russia will stay out of the conflict for a time.
Marshall Law will be leveled on the United States and dissenters will be processed into FEMA camps. People will try and leave the cities, but will be turned back in armed conflicts. The “American Federal Empire†(AFE) will be established, which will encompass the whole North American continent. Venezuela’s government will be over thrown during this process and it’s oil reserves will be used for the war effort. A new currency will take the place of our present currency, and it will be called the Amero-System. This new currency will be paperless, and eventually, due to fraud the AFE will move to chip implants.
The rest will come later.
January 11th, 2007 at 1:21 amDid you watch the whole 20 minutes?
Comment by unbelievable
I tried twice, once live and once on tape, kept on falling asleep – he had all of the vigor of an Eggo in the freezer (and less visability).
January 11th, 2007 at 1:23 amBush is completely insane, but most in the Congress are clueless and still do not understand that Dubya and Dicky must resign or be impeached!
Comment by Jay Randal — January 11, 2007 @ 1:19 am
The problem is if congress moves to impeachment then Bush will declare Marshall Law and become the De Facto president. The same day that the Military Commissions Act of 2006 was signed the John Warner Defense Authorization Act was signed as well. “the President may employ the armed forces, including the National Guard in Federal service, to restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition in any State or possession of the United States, the President determines that domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of (”refuse” or “fail” in) maintaining public order, “in order to suppress, in any State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy.”
Incident is very important. Incident from websters means: an action likely to lead to grave consequences especially in diplomatic matters.
January 11th, 2007 at 1:38 amPlease! If you don;t believe me research what I say. Don’t take my word for it.
Please, it is spelled martial law
January 11th, 2007 at 1:43 amJohn Titor – Time Traveler
http://www.johntitor.com/
The Time Travel Tale of John Titor. … When John Titor, the supposed time traveler from 2036 posted online, he said the United States would enter into a …
JTitor
Is this who you are emulating or are you the real * supposed time traveler * John Titor ?
All of your posts for the past 5-6 months seem to come from message board dialogue of one John Titor the supposed time traveler
Personally I do not buy into any of it about this John Titor * The Time Traveler *
January 11th, 2007 at 2:35 amUntil Bush states that he is closing his secret prisons of torture, he just isn’t worth listening to. The only sane course is; stop funds, impeach, and try this war criminal.
January 11th, 2007 at 2:44 amThe Story of John Titor
http://johntitor.strategicbrains.com/
http://community.livejournal.com/hoaxes/90359.html
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/the_john_titor_project.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor
January 11th, 2007 at 3:01 amThe Story of John Titor
http://johntitor.strategicbrains.com/
http://community.livejournal.com/hoaxes/90359.html
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/the_john_titor_project.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor
January 11th, 2007 at 3:01 amThe other alternative to Bush provoking a war with Iran is for him to get Israel to do our dirty work. Something they just might do. If that happens then the S**T will really hit the fan.
Comment by Jim — January 10, 2007
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You just don’t get it do you?
WE are doing the dirty work for Israel, not the other way around.
LOL!
January 11th, 2007 at 3:23 amTerrific speech. I remember being in New York on 9/11/2001, witnessing the carnage perpetrated by the terrorists and realizing that we were at war with a section of the population of the world that was seriously dysfunctional and dangerous.
Comment by Exley — January 10, 2007
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Too bad you didn’t get to see it from a more “up close and personal” vantage point. I’m sure that it would have made an even greater “impression” on you that way.
January 11th, 2007 at 3:33 amHouse Republican Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, chided Democrats for offering no alternative to Bush’s plan. “If Democrat leaders don’t support the president’s plan,” he said, “it’s their responsibility to put forward a plan of their own for achieving victory.”
What is the Democratic Plan to WIN the War in Iraq??????
January 11th, 2007 at 4:06 ampsychopath!
January 11th, 2007 at 4:08 amThe only sane course is; stop funds, impeach, and try this war criminal.
The Left Wing Liberal Democrats MUST Descendants from FRANCE because their only idea to deal with the problems in IRAQ is SURRENDER!!!!!!!
January 11th, 2007 at 4:10 amIraq is lost and has been lost… GWB is a madman.
This is the typical response of Left Wing Liberal JERKS — Blame Bush and SURRENDER in Iraq… just like the French always do!!!
January 11th, 2007 at 4:11 amWhether this new strategy will be successful or not against the unsurgents, will depend that a ruthless war is conducted against them. American commanders on the ground with these ‘new rules of engagement’, must deploy their forces and the means of war ruthlessly against this implacable and mortal foe.
Throughout history, in all critical military engagements, morality is being always superseded, by what Edward Gibbon called ‘the laws of necessity’, and by the reality of war. Statesmen and great commanders, are neither accountable to man or God for their remorseless necessary actions, but only to history.
January 11th, 2007 at 4:14 amIt looks to me that he’s planning to have a showdown with Congress; if Congress blinks, he’ll have a blank check for two more years.
The Commander-in-Chief already has a BLANK Check in Iraq. Congress passed the Resolution on Oct. 2002, giving the President Authority to Invade Iraq. Congress should do something meaningful and FIX the Immigration Mess at the Mexican Border. Anyone including Terrorists can just walk across the border without anyone stopping them. It is SHAMEFUL that Congress has not passed a NEW Immigration Bill to Solve this HUGE Problem…….
January 11th, 2007 at 4:16 amURGENT MESSAGE
202-456-1111
White House Comment Line
Call and say that you fully SUPPORT George Bush’s NEW PLAN FOR THE DEPLOYMENT OF 20,000 MORE TROOPS IN IRAQ!!!!
January 11th, 2007 at 4:21 amThere was not one ounce of sincerity in his admission of guilt for the chaos that has become Iraq. And it no longer surprises me because sociopaths lack the capacity.
The only thing Bush’s speech convinced me of – is the fact that he will go down in history as a failed leader.
Dear unbelievable, Your SUPPORT of our Commander-in-Chief is not short of amazing. George Bush will go down in History as the only President that Defended this Country against the Middle East Terrorists that want to Kill every American they possibly can…. If you have ALL the answers, why the hell don’t you go to Iraq and show the troops how to fight the INSURGENTS!!!!! What and ASS HOLE!!!!!!
January 11th, 2007 at 4:26 am“If we increase our support at this crucial momentâ€
There has been nearly 4 years of crucial moments, milestones, turned corners. Iraq has only progressed further into chaos.
Dear Koalablue, any ASS HOLE can sit back and critisize the President and the way the War in Iraq is being fought. How about you GOOD FOR NOTHING Left Wing Liberals come up with YOUR PLAN TO WIN THE WAR IN IRAQ!!!!!
January 11th, 2007 at 4:28 amWhether this new strategy will be successful or not against the insurgents, will depend that a ruthless war is conducted against them. American commanders on the ground with these ‘new rules of engagement’, must deploy their forces and the means of war ruthlessly against this implacable and mortal foe.
Throughout history, in all critical military engagements, morality is being always superseded, by what Edward Gibbon called ‘the laws of necessity’, and by the reality of war. Statesmen, and great commanders, are neither accountable to man or God for their remorseless necessary actions, but only to history.
January 11th, 2007 at 4:35 amWhat is the Democratic Plan to WIN the War in Iraq??????
Comment by Sir Greg Nevins — January 11, 2007 @ 4:06 am
We have not bothered to come up with a plan since we found out your President cooked the intel books to give the go ahead and attack Iraq . Seems we have been too busy with his 109th congress charade .
The plan to WIN in Iraq ? The prerequisite for victory in Iraq is to get Bush/Cheney impeached first and foremost .
We would not NEED a plan to WIN if we had not gone on this little PNAC staged foray in the first place .
Your asking .. What is the Democratic Plan to WIN the War in Iraq??????
Is alot like asking a 5 year old to clean up a spilled gallon of paint .
He was told to stay out of the paint or he might spill it .
He doesnt listen and actually devises methods to not only reach the paint but manages to spill the entire gallon all over the floor .
Now in a heated panic he looks around and has no idea how to fix the mess . Knowing all the way he was wrong but is trying to save face and pride with mom .
The more he wipes and scrubs the worse it gets and spreads .
Finally the parent catches him in his little foray and the child can think of nothing better to say than ..
…WELL MOM ! What is YOUR plan to clean this up ?
This is projection in the first degree .
Greg Nevins you are a mirror image of your fearless leader .
January 11th, 2007 at 4:41 amURGENT MESSAGE
202-456-1111
White House Comment Line
Call and say that you fully SUPPORT George Bush’s NEW PLAN FOR THE DEPLOYMENT OF 20,000 MORE MALE TEEN STRIPPERS AND CALLBOYS IN WASHINGTON .
TELL THEM SIR GREG NEVINS SENT YOU SO I CAN GET MY DISCOUNT WILL YOU ?
January 11th, 2007 at 4:45 amWe have not bothered to come up with a plan since we found out your President cooked the intel books to give the go ahead and attack Iraq . Seems we have been too busy with his 109th congress charade .
This is exactly why the American People Re-Elected George W. Bush in 2004, because the Left Wing Liberal Idiots had NO PLAN to Protect this Country. This is why the Republicans will WIN the White House once again in 2008, because the Voters will not give CONTROL to the Democrats to Lead this Country because they DON’T have any Solutions to Win the War on Terror!!!! If you asked a Left Wing Liberal Dim Wit about the War on Terror — you will get a Dumb Founded Look on their face and hear… What War on Terror — the are absolutlely CLUELESS and WORTHLES!!!!
January 11th, 2007 at 4:57 amThe plan to WIN in Iraq ? The prerequisite for victory in Iraq is to get Bush/Cheney impeached first and foremost .
The Left Wing Liberal ASS HOLES are so obsessed with George W. Bush and Dick Cheney that they can’t see straight. Their only Solution to fight the War on Terror is SURRENDER in IRAQ….. bring ALL the Troops Home…. Raise Taxes on all working Americans so they can spend on PORK BARREL PROJECTS!!!! The Voters are SMART and they will see the Democrats as the HAS BEEN PARTY with NO NEW IDEAS and THROW them OUT OF OFFICE just as fast as they voted them in office…….
January 11th, 2007 at 5:02 amThis man has invited a military coup.
It’s time for these Generals – who swore an oath to uphold the CONSTITUTION (not coddle the DICTATOR) – to fulfill their promise – made to the American People.
Bush IS a Domestic Terrorist according to the definition proscribed to by our own State Department.
We are a nation of laws – and Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Chertoff, etc. are CLEARLY OUTLAWS.
The Constitution REQUIRES that those who swore the oath ACT to remove a DOMESTIC ENEMY and charge him for the crimes he has already committed.
Bush has literally INVITED this response.
Waiting is NOT AN OPTION. A nuclear strike against Iran is planned to come any day – and Martial Law will be declared here in the US at the same time.
January 11th, 2007 at 5:21 amThe Voice of the White House
Washington, D.C., January 5, 2007: “Working in the White House is like working in the monkey house in a zoo when all the primates are loaded with uppers.
A number of lower staffers have abruptly quit, Harriet Myers has quit and others are going the same way. Now why is this? Because it is now very obvious that Bush has lost his marbles, if he ever had any, and we are headed into a major governmental crisis.
Bush has absolutely no intention of leaving Iraq. Any general officer who disagrees with his stupid “surge†is promptly fired and others warned that Bush will fire them if they open their mouths. The brass at the Pentagon and the troops in the field are approaching open mutiny.
There are very serious rumors that National Guard and reserve units will not show up for shipment to the slaughterhouse. Bush has told Congress that they will do what he tells them and if they do not, he will refuse to sign any of their bills he does not approve of and refuse to implement anything they try to pass over his head.
He has deliberately antagonized the new Congress and when he is told that the people want an end to the Iraq horrors, he claims the public still want him to “stay the course.â€
Hate mail and death threats are pouring in here in unprecedented numbers and the Secret Service can’t begin to keep up with them. There is no question that very soon, there will be a major confrontation between Bush on one side and the military and Congress on the other. And be sure Bush will lose.
No one seems to know what to do about Bush. He will listen to no one and could care less what the American public wants. What he wants is to hang the remaining Saddam crew, launch a huge military attack in Baghdad, level parts of that city that he personally feels should be leveled, kill off anything that moves, replace the current Iraqi government with a pliable military dictator like Saddam and then come home in what he considers will be a great triumph.
A Republican Senator recently said that what Bush was doing was criminal. It is and now both Congress, the military and a growing segment of the American public are beginning to realize that Bush has to be removed, by force if necessary, from his high office.
I have talked with some of the staff members who are in his presence on a regular basis and all of them say, without reservation, that he has gone around the bend. The Pentagon brass have nicknamed him Caligula and there is a very strong possibility of open revolt from that sector. Troops in the field are seriously talking about mutiny but if Bush knows about this, he could care less.
The plain and simple truth, children, is that our President is a fanatic nut and has absolutely no business running a war. Whatever happens to him will be entirely his fault and I am looking for another job starting this afternoon.â€
http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a2608.htm
January 11th, 2007 at 5:22 amMr Idiot Nevins, watch this video to see what kind of “future” awaits our surge of troops before you regurgitate any of your absurd warmongering ideas.
Hope one of your sons experiences same tragedy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrpVn8qXIzQ
January 11th, 2007 at 5:23 amFORCED LABOR PRISON CAMPS FOR FAMILIES IN THE US!
GOT MARTIAL LAW?
Let’s make “Swift Luck Greens” famous!
What do you think it will take for Lou Dobbs and Keith Olbermann
to get these images featured on their nightly shows and demand
an explanation of Michael Chertoff? I want to see national TV news
crews there at this location with cameras in hand. We paid for them -
Cheney’s KBR built them – let’s see them on TV! Aren’t they proud?
http://www.democracyforums.com/showthread.php?tid=297
Note that in the DHS “Swift Luck Greens†photos, the mine facility is known as the “East Annexâ€
This implies that the main facility is further west of this location.
I believe the “main†facility is the one referred to as the “Maximum Security†facility.
Rag Shoshone coal mine closed Thursday. August 30, 2000.
In 2000 – this was the production rate for the mine:
Tons of Coal Mined in 2000: 1,209,795
Number of Employees in 2000: 67
CYPRUS SHOSHONE COAL CORPORATION
HANNA WY 82327
Latitude: 41.92
Longitude: -106.521944
Wikipedia:
Civilian Inmate Labor Program
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_Inmate_Labor_Program
Read this guy’s take:
http://tinyurl.com/y48vxo
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/47/17936
January 11th, 2007 at 5:25 amBush’s Mysterious ‘New Programs’
By Nat Parry
Honestly Exley is really beginning to win the award for most oblivious cocksuck3r I’ve ever seen.
Terrific speech. I remember being in New York on 9/11/2001, witnessing the carnage perpetrated by the terrorists and realizing that we were at war with a section of the population of the world that was seriously dysfunctional and dangerous.
And tell me exlaxley, how many of them were in iraq?
about 40 people (all of whom were NOT iraqi) planned and executed 9-11 . less than 50 people planned that entire event, that constitutes the entire reason we are suddenly at “war”.
50 people doesnt qualify as a “section of the population”. 50 people out of several billion? Those 50 people, which have been dubbed Al Queda never has any formal heirarchy or memebership. Its at best an idealogicial franchise. the name origininated from the CIA for chrissakes. The first person to use it was a government informant who stole money from Bin Laden and spun a story of a massive organized conspiracy the prosecutors needed to make thier case, in exchange for federal protection. Im not saying Bin Laden isnt a political agitator, im just saying delusional people like Exley have turned a small, loosely orgnaized, dysfunctional band into some phantom army. There are lots of Radical Islamic groups out there. Bin laden has been involved with many of them. But allmost all of them have very different agendas, most of them nationalist in nature. The idea that there is some monolithic global islamic conspiracy is assanine. The very same people who have a knee jerk reaction of scorn to any other conspiracy theory are for some reason ready to beleive this one at the drop of a hat. Maybe because it fits in perfectly with thier racist, radical nationalistic flaghumping mindsets.
You want to witness REAL carnage? Travel around the mourges of america. Or are you one of the people who are too stupid to notice something happening unless a large flashy “bang” or “boom” is involved? It may not all be in one locale or have a big flashy BANG, so people like Exley can ‘t fixate on it, but americans slaughter each other at a rate unprecedented in industrialized nations. One 9-11’s worth of americans is killed every WEEK by thier fellow american.
9-11 was the most grotesquesly, sickeningly overhyped hollywood moment in the history of mankind.
I knew on that morning that we would be at military, economic, political, and philosophical war for a long time to come.
Uh huh. A “war”. Yes. For a “long time”. How long? Exley, your such an articulate genius, please answer one simple quesiton: please define the circumstances under which we will achieve “victory” in the “war” on “terror”? will it be when 3000 americans could never ever be killed by foreigners again? how do we prevent that possibility from ever happening again? is killing hundreds of thousands of innocents in a country that had NOTHING to do with 9-11 a good way to prevent more terrorist from being created?
And what if some future president, who doesnt posses the deep honestly and integrity we all know your hero Dumbya posses, decides to lie and say we havent won the war, even though we have, so all his war profiteer buddies can keep making money off our fear.
How woudl we ever know?
What benchmark do we, the people, have, to determine whether the war is over or not?
Thank God we have all been blessed with a president with the courage and fortitude to pursue this war against our common enemy.
Courage? How much courage does it take to send someone else’s children to die? The same courage he showed in Nam?
At the time of the Korean War, Harry S Truman was the most unpopular president in U.S. history, according to polls. Truman has since been vindicated by history’s sober and impartial judgment.
Truman was once grossly unpopular, and so is bush. Therefore Bush is like Truman.
Nice logic there…. So was Nixon by the way. Bush is unpopular not just because of the Iraq war, but because people are finally waking up to what an idiot he is.
So will be the case with President George W. Bush. History’s vindication is inevitable.
Yes, attacking a country that had nothing to do with the people we are at “war” with will be remembered as a brilliant move.
Let me guess, when does the “sober judgement of history” kick in? When we are all dead and no one who cares is around to disagree with your delusional statements?
Iraq will ALWAYS be remembered as more of a fiasco than Vietnam, mark my word. And the “sober judgement of history” will prove me right and you wrong at any stage of history, now or at any point in the future.
Exley, you are so deeply delusional I almost have to wonder if you really believe what you are saying, or if you life is just so empty and meaningless that the most enjoyable part of your day is waking up and looking on the internets at how many people have reacted to your delusional fluffery of one of the stupidest presidents ever to hold the reigns of this country.
So Exley, please share with us some mistakes your superhero dumbya has made? Or do you think he hasnt made any?
January 11th, 2007 at 5:26 amAccording to the US State Department, the definition of TERRORISM is not confined to the physical act of killing.
Terrorism occurs when a state utilizes fear tactics against its own people to accomplish political objectives.
The mere act or announcing a falsely construed terror alert – or overplaying the significance of a plot known not to be viable – is itself terrorism.
Tom Ridge admitted that many of the Terror Alerts announced under his command were in fact phony.
Remember the run on duct tape?
That was a clear case of state sponsored terrorism by the Government of the United States under the direction of Karl Rove against the people of the United States to achieve a political objective.
Karl Rove is a Terrorist under the definition ascribed by the US State Department.
January 11th, 2007 at 5:28 amThe greatest taboo of all, which Orwell would surely recognize, is the record of the United States as a terrorist state and haven for terrorists.
This truth is virtually unknown by the American public and makes a mockery of Bush’s (and Blair’s) statements about “tracking down terrorists wherever they are.”
They don’t have to look far.
THERE IS NO OSAMA BIN LADEN.
AL QAEDA IS MERELY AN IDEA.
THERE IS NO “WAR ON TERROR”
THERE IS MERELY TERROR, CAUSED DIRECTLY BY THOSE WHO GAIN THE MOST FROM IT.
AFGHANISTAN’S OPIUM PRODUCTION IS AT ALL TIME HIGHS SINCE 9/11 AND OUR RESULTING INVASION.
GEORGE HW BUSH’S CIA/DEA DRUG IMPORTATION OPERATIONS ARE AS PROFITABLE AS EVER.
THE US IS LEADING THE “war OF terror.”
GOOGLE: “FALSE FLAG”
January 11th, 2007 at 5:32 amRemember the run on duct tape?
Yeah duct-tape is going to protect us from the evil-doers. Strange coincidence that the Tom Ridge, the guy who issued that statement, also sat on the board of duct tape supplier extroidinaire Home Depot.
Thank got we have duct tape, and the bravery and sober judgement of Mighty AphroMites and Exley to protect us from “them”.
January 11th, 2007 at 5:32 amIn his speech Bush also said that the US would hold the Iraqi government to certain “benchmarks”, including the passage of oil-sharing legislation, reconstruction and job projects, and political reforms.
including the passage of oil-sharing legislation
Here we go Bush needs the oil for Victory
January 11th, 2007 at 5:33 amTHE SHADOW GOVERNMENT REVEALED:
http://www.wnd.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52576
Tuesday, October 24, 2006
THE NEW WORLD DISORDER
Documents reveal ’shadow government’
Freedom of Information request puts 1,000 new pages online
“We have hundreds of pages of e-mails from U.S. executive branch administrators who are copying the e-mail to somewhere between 25 to 100 people, a third of whom are in the U.S. bureaucracy, a third of whom are in the Mexican bureaucracy and a third of whom are in the Canadian bureaucracy,” said Corsi.
“They are sharing their laws and regulations so we can ‘harmonize’ and ‘integrate’ our laws into a North American structure, not a USA structure.”
Corsi claims the process is well along the way.
“This is totally outside the U.S. Constitution, virtually an executive branch coup d’etat,” he said. “SPP is creating new trilateral memoranda of understanding and mutual agreements which should be submitted to Senate for two-thirds votes as international treaties.”
SPP Response to Jerome Corsi Freedom of Information Act Requests
The following are the documents SPP sent in response to the FOIA request submitted by J. Corsi. As you will see, SPP responded with incomplete documents, in no particular order. We have grouped the documents here in a fashion which should make examining them possible. J. Corsi is continuing to request additional FOIA-released documents from SPP.
http://stopspp.com/stopspp/?page_id=11
January 11th, 2007 at 5:35 amhttp://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?ex=1151899200&en=079d03a2a9db7c23&ei=5070
It was during a press conference on Sept. 16, 2001, in response to a question about homeland security efforts infringing on civil rights, that Bush first used the telltale word ”crusade” in public. ”This is a new kind of — a new kind of evil,” he said. ”And we understand. And the American people are beginning to understand. This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while.”
In the summer of 2002, after I had written an article in Esquire that the White House didn’t like about Bush’s former communications director, Karen Hughes, I had a meeting with a senior adviser to Bush. He expressed the White House’s displeasure, and then he told me something that at the time I didn’t fully comprehend — but which I now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency.
The aide said that guys like me were ”in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who ”believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ”That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. ”We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”
Who besides guys like me are part of the reality-based community? Many of the other elected officials in Washington, it would seem. A group of Democratic and Republican members of Congress were called in to discuss Iraq sometime before the October 2002 vote authorizing Bush to move forward. A Republican senator recently told Time Magazine that the president walked in and said: ”Look, I want your vote. I’m not going to debate it with you.” When one of the senators began to ask a question, Bush snapped, ”Look, I’m not going to debate it with you.”
January 11th, 2007 at 5:36 am202-456-1111
White House Comment Line
Call and say that you fully SUPPORT George Bush’s NEW PLAN FOR THE DEPLOYMENT OF 20,000 MORE TROOPS IN IRAQ!!!!
January 11th, 2007 at 5:43 amYou both trolls be sure, sooner or later you will pay for your sins.Either with taxes or with your own lives.
(Thanks for dying in the name of Jesus).
January 11th, 2007 at 5:56 amGlenn has this up this am…
January 11th, 2007 at 7:06 amhttp://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2007/01/presidents-intentions-for-iran-need.html#links
The Voters are SMART and they will see the Democrats as the HAS BEEN PARTY with NO NEW IDEAS and THROW them OUT OF OFFICE just as fast as they voted them in office…….
Comment by Sir Greg Nevins — January 11, 2007 @ 5:02 am
The voters are smart. That is why they threw so many do nothing republicans out of office last November. Just be ready for 2008 when more are gone, including Bushco.
Voters are tired of a do nothing, rubberstamping, republican congress and a failed president out of touch with the average American.
Pork – look to your own party i.e. the bridge to no where. Your party is full of politicians who jusst are in this for themselves, to line their own pockets at the expense of the American people.
No new ideas – the dempcratic party has done more in the first week of taking over than the repugnut party did all last year.
The American people are catching on alright – and they are acknowledging the uselessness of the republican party!!
January 11th, 2007 at 7:08 amIn his speech Bush also said that the US would hold the Iraqi government to certain “benchmarksâ€, including the passage of oil-sharing legislation, reconstruction and job projects, and political reforms.
including the passage of oil-sharing legislation
Here we go Bush needs the oil for Victory
January 11th, 2007 at 7:09 amThe world is watching what so-called freedom-loving Americans say, and the whole world also realizes that America can no longer be trusted for anything.
About thirty years ago, the odds of having freedom and a government that a typical person could trust was possible — no longer now.
America was once a great country. Now it’s controlled by fanatics who act above the very same laws they try to impose on the world.
The Roman Empire fell apart for exactly the same reasons that the United States will crumble, it’s only a matter of time.
January 11th, 2007 at 7:11 amIt’s time for this administration to be removed. We must go all out to stop them from enlarging this fiasco. We msu also encourage our friends and relatives in the military to refuse deployment.
January 11th, 2007 at 7:23 amI don’t know why President is being punished for forward thinking, Nuclear weapons in the hands of forces unfriendly to secular forces is a danger to the humanity lest they provid ethe nuclear weapons to terrorists one day. Hop e common sense and extrapolation of observed facts prevail to the fashinably peace lovers and lobbysists. Real strategies hardly appeals to hip crowd.
http://www.tekno-world.blogspot.com
January 11th, 2007 at 7:30 amMr. Vastshit – do you think with that brain you have been given? The US has nuclear weapons and there are many countries who consider the US to be unfriendly.
Diplomacy is the only friend we have at the moment and Bushco will not even recognize this.
Real strategies hardly appeal to the chickenhawks who prefer to send others and other peoples children to die in their war for oil!!
January 11th, 2007 at 7:36 amBob Herbert won’t let go of New Orleans. It’s telling that the last two op-eds that I’ve posted both have the word “ruins” in the titles. Ruins will be Bush legacies.
January 11th, 2007 at 7:37 amWhile the country is focused on Iraq, the bushies are planning their attack on Iran:
http://counterpunch.com/roberts01102007.html
We now have two carrier groups in the gulf. Iran has Russian missiles which are capable of destroying one or both of those aircraft carriers. This will be the Pearl Harbor that the neocons want in order to widen the war.
Bush is deliberately putting our navy at risk for the sake of oil, Israel and imperialism.
The probable scenario is that Israel will attack Iran. We will offer support, and Iran will retaliate.
January 11th, 2007 at 7:41 amThe probable scenario is that Israel will attack Iran. We will offer support, and Iran will retaliate.
Comment by nineteen84 — January 11, 2007
A more probable scenario is that Israel’s nuclear capable submarine will sink a US Aircraft Carrier (Google USS LIBERTY) – making it appear to have come from Iran – and the US will nuke Iran in (apparent) response to an attack “on US soil”
January 11th, 2007 at 7:51 amThe US administration opened Pandora box against the advice of nearly the whole world in 2003. I am afraid, that nobody – at least the US – is able to close it within the next years. Poor Iraqis!
January 11th, 2007 at 7:54 amThursday morning and I’m coming down from my wild binge last night. Nothing like a Bush speech to send me flying. Pills & booze. Yeehah. In my drunken stupor, I channeled “Sir Greg Nevin.” He’s me and I’m him. I can’t believe what I wrote last night. Sorry for wasting your time.
January 11th, 2007 at 7:55 amone year agon bush had 160,000 troops there and insurgency was rife .
January 11th, 2007 at 7:56 amWell done Bush, so far he was planning to kill one million Iraqis which he achieved. Now he is planning for how many after two years? We will soon know. Bush should not forget the situation of Ariel Sharon.
Bush is suppose to be the commander in chief and yet this man has tried everything to avoid to be in Vietnam. I understand why he finds it easy to send thousands of American citizens to their slaughter in Iraq. They come from poor and middle class background. They are suppose to serve Oil and War merchants. No wonder the so called Iraqi govenment that lives in the green zone (the liberated Iraq!), is pressurised to pass legislation giving access of their Black gold and it reserves that belongs to the Iraqi nation to US companies with contracts lasting 30 years and $ billions of profits in the process. This is the promised democracy for the Iraqis and I can see how ordinary Iraqi citizens are benefiting from it. In a country full of oil reserve, the citizens have to queue for hours to get petrol! This is the mother of all ironies in the 4th richest country in the world in oil reserve. The dictator is dead. Long live the new dictator so that Oil merchants will have the last say!
January 11th, 2007 at 7:57 amNO Isreali Bombs on Natanz for a week IAEA Inspectors there
U.N. nuclear inspectors arrive in Iran
The two IAEA inspectors were conducting routine investigations of Iran’s nuclear facilities in the cities of Isfahan and Natanz, the report said. They were expected to stay about a week.
January 11th, 2007 at 8:05 amUsually, when you practice brinksmanship like this, you have something to back it up.
Take a look at this bozo –> http://thumbsnap.com/v/6YvXAPG0.jpg
He’s got nothing to back it up. He is the laughingstock of the world. All that’s left to do is stick a banana in that drooling pie-hole of his.
January 11th, 2007 at 8:11 amWho will stand with the president?
Who will stand with the president who sacrificed 3,019 American lives for his ego?
Who will stand with the president who sacrificed the careers of some of our best and most honorable military leaders, for his ego?
Who will stand with the president who would sacrifice his own party for his ego?
Who will send 20,000 of our American sons and daughters?
Who will send 20,000 of our American brothers and sisters to Iraq?
Who will have blood on their hands?
Webster defines mistake as; to misunderstand the meaning or intention of.
It is a stretch of the imagination to think that the volume and gravity of mistakes, made by this administration was unintentional.
January 11th, 2007 at 8:17 amshocker | 01.11.07 – 7:43 am | # ablog
US forces just raided the Iranian consulate in a town in Kurdistan, arrested the Iranian employees and confiscated documents and computers.
This is provocation, all right. Bush is hoping to get the Iranians to retaliate. The “Escalator” is itching to bomb Iran.
January 11th, 2007 at 8:19 amBUSH FICTION FROM SPEACH
To give every Iraqi citizen a stake in the country’s economy, Iraq will pass legislation to share oil revenues among all Iraqis
THE FACT FROM ALJAZEERA
In his speech Bush also said that the US would hold the Iraqi government to certain “benchmarks”, including the passage of oil-sharing legislation, reconstruction and job projects, and political reforms.
THIS PLAN IS DOOMED THE OIL BELONGS TO THE IRAQIS NOT EXXON AND BP
January 11th, 2007 at 8:34 amThis is W before TurdBlossom put lipstick on him – stiff and disinterested. Without Rove to make him reherse for 4 or 5 days and his only Real persona (Feckless smirking petulent fratboy) we get the ‘dry-drunk robot’ delivery. I think I liked the smirking better…
January 11th, 2007 at 8:42 amUK to cut 3,000 troops from Iraq by May
An Apology from Tony Blair
Dear Americans I hoped to get a job in America after stealing Iraqs Oil, Working for the carlyle group selling more American weapons, But It seems if the democrats are in power they will not issue me a work visa,
Time for me to come clean
I should never have listened to Bush he tricked me , He promised me if I betrayed the Uk I would get a backhander , So Bushy bay I have no choice but to expose you for the Liar you are
Tony Blair ( Ex British dictator )
January 11th, 2007 at 8:55 amNo new Ideas, you got that right, except it’s the same old idea rehashed.
Yet, here we are stuck in a quagmire in the middle east, where the oil just happens to be. How can you, Sir, say that this is a new idea? We are not replacing foreign oil imports and have not been.
This is the last escalation that I will support, and only because our President and Congress has bought this welfare state with 25 million people. The ‘islamofascist’ wording, which in itself is an impossibilty, of the punditry is just plain idiocy when looked at from a distance. They are destabilizing the middle east and undermining the war on terror, while at the same time increasing our dependence on foreign oil, while sidelining technological advances that would decrease our dependence on foreign oil.
January 11th, 2007 at 9:09 amto Zep Tepi–Then don’t support ANY escalation, and urge your elected officials not to support it or fund it–
January 11th, 2007 at 9:32 amit’s high time we stop covering up for a guy we “elected” who doesn’t have the capacity to do the job.
Most agree that the solution is not a military solution–so why the heck should we sit still for more reckless spending and loss of lives, both American and Iraqi?
If he is (and on this point, I concur) unable to handle diplomacy, we should remove him and replace him with someone who can.
EXACTLY WHEN will the good people on this earth stand shoulder to shoulder millions strong in the streets of the continents and help us stop this madman?
EXACTLY WHEN will American citizens get up off their collective asses and stand shoulder to shoulder in every street in America and say “enough already”?
WHEN??????
January 11th, 2007 at 9:36 amBush’s old plan for Iraq was “stay the course”.
Bush’n new plan for Iraq is “stay the course”
See, Bush has changed. He is now shouting it out, apparently in an effort to drown out everybody else (except Joe Lieberman).
January 11th, 2007 at 9:36 amOr better yet–have the oil companies provide all funding, and send in 20,000 Halliburton contractors to finish the job–(they are effective and inexpensive, right?)
January 11th, 2007 at 9:37 amThey will, after all, be the only persons who profit when the oil fields are finally secured.
Let’s take a poll on the President’s speech. Oh, somebody already has:
This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by telephone January 10, 2007, among a random national sample of 502 adults. The results have a 4.5-point error margin. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by TNS of Horsham, PA.
*= less than 0.5 percent
1. Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling the situation in Iraq? Do you approve/disapprove strongly or somewhat?
——– Approve ——– ——- Disapprove —— No
NET Strongly Somewhat NET Somewhat Strongly opin.
1/10/07 34 21 13 64 14 50 2
64% think GW is wrong. Hell, that’s far past his 51% mandate idea he had after the 2004 election. It’s time to cutoff the crack supply to the WH.
January 11th, 2007 at 9:42 amWell, that didn’t transpose the way I wanted. Go to RawStory for more information on the great misscommunicator.
January 11th, 2007 at 9:43 amto Zep Tepi–Then don’t support ANY escalation, and urge your elected officials not to support it or fund it–
If the troops pull out the violence will not stop and would likely only increase.
I do not try to tell you what to support, or not support, I have only written my opinion. As far as for ‘covering’ for Bush, those here know that I don’t cover for him, never have. We owe the people a solution to the problem, I think, that we, as a nation, created.
January 11th, 2007 at 9:45 amComment by ace — January 11, 2007 @ 5:28 am
Let’s not forget 2004’s “if John Kerry is elected, the U.S. will surely be attacked by terrorists” from Dick Cheney, and 2006’s “the terrorists win if the Democrats win Congress.”
And thanks for reminding folks about Tom Ridge’s many objections to raising the terror threat level due to questionable intelligence.
January 11th, 2007 at 9:50 amExley, you leave me absolutely speechless with your idiocy.
January 11th, 2007 at 9:53 amActually Halliburton has been pulling out of Iraq, due to the violence, and are not able to provide security, at this point, for their employees. And no, they are not effective or inexpensive.
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/44251/
January 11th, 2007 at 9:57 am#66 ChildrenofLir, thanks…I thought my ears were deceiving me, but I was sure he totally f*cked that one up. I thought that this one was important and the dummy can’t even read his cue cards which I bet looked like Dick and Jane script….he did only mention 9-11 twice though. He’s got a mandate alright, a mandate to STFU.
January 11th, 2007 at 10:00 amBAGHDAD, Iraq – U.S.-led multinational forces detained six Iranians Thursday at Tehran’s diplomatic mission in the northern city of Irbil, Iraqi officials said, …
The U.S. military said it had taken six people into custody in the Irbil region but made no mention of a raid on the Iranian consulate.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070111/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq
I guess the Iranians will reciprocate
January 11th, 2007 at 10:16 amWhen failure and infamy loom…
…create more chaos and doom…
…Troop surge is nothing more than…
…a play to stave off the inevitable…
…while at the same time…
…stealing more money…
January 11th, 2007 at 10:23 amUS forces storm Iranian consulate in Arbil, arrest five
dpa German Press Agency
Published: Thursday January 11, 2007
Baghdad- US forces accompanied by military helicopters on Thursday stormed the Iranian consulate in the Kurdish city of Arbil, arresting five Iranian employees, a Kurdish security source said. In addition to the arrests, US troops confiscated documents and computers, while Kurdish security authorities cordoned off all roads leading to the building.
In Tehran, the Iranian leadership responded by summoning diplomats representing US interests. Local Kurdish officials in northern Iraq meanwhile refused to comment on the incident.
Arbil is located 350 kilometres north of Baghdad in Iraqi Kurdistan province, the only region gaining an official recognition as a federal entity.
The raid came a day after US President George W Bush said the United States would confront Iran and Syria, accusing them of fomenting violence in Iraq by allowing insurgents into the country and supporting attacks on American troops.
The political and religious representatives of Iraq’s Sunni Muslim population accuse the Iranian leadership of supporting Shiite militias and even sending its own fighters to take part in dead squads.
In Tehran, Iran summoned the ambassadors of Iraq and Switzerland (which represents US interests in Iran) over the consulate raid, Iran’s state television network IRIB reported.
The Iranian foreign ministry demanded explanations from the two ambassadors on the raid and stressed that the consulate was established in the capital of Iraq’s autonomous Kurdish region upon the explicit wishes of the Iraqi government and Iraqi Kurdish officials.
© 2006 dpa German Press Agency
January 11th, 2007 at 10:31 amBush (Napoleon) and his blood-thirsty imperialistic need to conquer other lands needs to be stopped right now – and the ONLY way is through impeachment. Can the people fire a President? If the Congress does not bring about impeachment proceedings immediately, then perhaps it’s time for another Boston Tea Party. Clearly, he is agressing beyond what is legal and without the support of the people. Time for this maniac to be fired and stopped….IMPEACHMENT NOW! This country cannot afford to waste one more day of time before action is taken against this obviously blood-thirsty maniac.
January 11th, 2007 at 10:47 amOur hard-earned dollars have vanished in Iraq – this needs serious investigation and the buck stops at the Presidency. Imbezzlement is a serious crime. The people need to know where our money has gone and how it could possibly have vanished. It’s time to stop these greedy charlatans in their tracks…..and NOW!
If people thought the demonstrations around the white house yesterday were loud, just wait until Congress begins to try to posture against this corrupt administration with investigations, indictments, and imprisonment. The people are beginning to awaken from the nightmare of this presidency…the corruption, overt lies, amoral tactics and manipulation….the people are taking to the streets and exhibiting perhaps their only mode of vocal expression guaranteed by the constitution….now that voting has been contaminated and our elections overtly stolen.
It’s time, people…..time to take back the control of the destiny of this country. It’s a country OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, AND FOR THE PEOPLE and definitely NOT a country of one twisted regime, by one twisted regime, and for one twisted regime! Take action now to save this country from destruction from within.
January 11th, 2007 at 10:50 am#75 – Perhaps you’d better educate yourself about 9/11 a bit more? Let’s talk turkey when you explain the “war games” which were never mentioned to the american public but were occurring on 9/11 – the war game of which had terrorists taking control of commercial airlines and targeting buildings in NY – then you can throw around sentiment about what happened on 9/11 in an honest, informed way. Until then, STFU.
January 11th, 2007 at 10:53 amSurrender? We already won right? Mission Accomplished? Just how are we supposed to “win” someone else’s civil war?
Bush is a moron playing right into the terrorists’ hands: bleeding our armies dry, exposing our tactics for the world to study, and constant moving of the goal posts on why we are there, what it means to “win” and how were’re supposed to accomplish that.
January 11th, 2007 at 11:03 amAnd, as an independent, since the trolls are trying to implicte the Dems in all of this mess I will agree with them on one point: Yes, democrats were deceived into believing that giving a “yes” vote to this man would mean that he would treat the situation appropriately, allow the inspectors to do their job, and listen to the wisdom of the rest of the world in assessing what action to take/if any. He did none of these things. Instead, like King George, whom he believes in his delusions to be, he takes their vote as a definite “yes” to war – this was patently deceptive and wrong.
However, while on that point….I will say that (1) The Republicans got us into this mess by voting a fool into the presidency who has regressed this country politically and economically 200 years so why expect democrats to bail them out of this quagmire – and it’s not only on the Iraq front – it’s on everything to do with this country at this moment.
(2) I believe that the american people, in an attempt to bring back accountability to the congressional voting process, needs to reprimand all those who mistakenly voted “yes” to enable this war monger to take his criminal action are definitely NOT qualified to run for the highest office of this country. This includes both Dems and Repubs…..John McCain, Joe Lieberman, Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Joe Biden, and John Kerry. None of these people deserve to be president after making such a critical error in judgment and representation of the american people. Their job was to use inside information (which the public did not have yet still clearly half of our population disagreed with going into Iraq despite that fact)….and these yes voters failed to assess the situation clearly.
Also, it might be added that some of the polls of people “who actually believed that Saddam DID have WMD’s” still did not support going to war at this time – THIS FACT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT!. So, even with the threat of WMD’s well over half of the american population was not in favor of this war.
It goes without saying that we’ve become the “pariah in the world view” because of this act of terror and agression against Iraq. The rest of the world disagreed with us and we’ve now become the quintessential “ugly americans” around the world. International travel has radically changed and soon americans will be the target of much hatred and disgust – all because of unchecked power to one individual! The fall of the Roman Empre redux??
THIS IS A HALLMARK CASE OF: Congressional Abdication and Presidential Usurpation – an IMPERIAL PRESIDENCY. Salinger wrote the book in 1973 and his illustrations and predictions about abuse of power during Nixon’s era pale in comparison to what’s happened to this office and this country over the course of one man’s tenure…..6 years! Amazing how quickly we’ve descended.
January 11th, 2007 at 11:04 amWould someone please strap Bush to the bow of one of these carriers – below the water line?
January 11th, 2007 at 11:09 amThe Iran situation is serious stuff. If the Iranian consulate was entered without permission (to say nothing of an outright attack), it is a gross violation of the most basic of international laws, and could be defended against as an act of war. Not that Iran isn’t guilty of the same behavior. It was my opionion at the time of the US/Irainian hostage crisis that the US would have been justified in invading Iran due to their attack on our soil. A 1,700 mile common border with the former Soviet Union is the reason we didn’t. We missed our legitimate opportunity.
Our actions will be justified as tit-for-tat. However, there was a time when sinking to the lowest level, because your opponent had done so, was undignified and unthinkable. After all, and outlaw is an outlaw.
So, why did we do it? Why do we have two carriers in the Persian Gulf? What did GWB see when he looked into Putin’s eyes?
Those are scary questions. The answers are even scarier.
If the Persians are politically smart, they’ll react in a dignified, non-threatening manner (Persian history does not indicate that this will be the case). If they choose active resistance, they play right into our hands. We, in turn, have no idea what a war really is. Iran is not Iraq. A quick primer on the Iran/Iraq war shows the Iranians to be roughly equivalent to the Japanese in WWII in their willingness to promote the interests of (or defend) their culture to the last man.
The recent diplomatic/economic relationship of Iran and China as well as Russia’s grab for the oil resources of its former satellites must not be discounted. This is going to get ugly.
The depleted manpower of our military due to the Iraq debacle leaves us with air power/nuclear weapons options. Neocon logic: If you’ve got them, why not use them?
If I had to write a conclusion to what’s coming, I think it ends with GWB dead. at his own hand, in a bunker in some remote location.
Here it comes.
January 11th, 2007 at 11:09 amMethinks that Bush and his PNAC handlers are disappointed that Iran hasn’t put it’s nose into Iraq in a more obvious manner. If Iran was less subtle then the Neocons would be able to declare war and presto – one step closer to rapture. Of course, rapture is a myth so they will be happy to get more oil out of the middle east.
January 11th, 2007 at 11:21 amActually Halliburton has been pulling out of Iraq, due to the violence, and are not able to provide security, at this point, for their employees. And no, they are not effective or inexpensive.Comment by Zep Tepi
Sorry, Tep Zepi–sarcasm apparently doesn’t transfer well in print. Halliburton is “effective and inexpensive” was offered tongue in cheek…
January 11th, 2007 at 11:54 amWho!? is this “Nevins” character? What a goof. Dubbie is hanging himself in public, and I love it. Nebbish thinks it’s “another glorious victory” for hateful, hysterical ninnies such as himself. That is downright uproarious. Ex and MA are chimin’ in too, which is just as cute as it gets, and ol’ Happy Guy is staggering around somewhere, wacked out on slimfast and pop tarts, talkin about how Ted Kennedy is fat – what a circus!, what a clown-car of half-understood, overenthused equivocation! This IS entertainment, more than even Gretchen Carlson, Neal Cavuto, or Stephen Colbert could ever hope to deliver!!
January 11th, 2007 at 1:27 pmalso – it’s just PRECIOUS when Dubbie says things that make it sound like HE actually decided/did/thought something.
January 11th, 2007 at 1:37 pmBAGHDAD, Iraq – U.S.-led multinational forces detained six Iranians Thursday at Tehran’s diplomatic mission in the northern city of Irbil, Iraqi officials said, …
The U.S. military said it had taken six people into custody in the Irbil region but made no mention of a raid on the Iranian consulate.
http://news.yahoo.com/ s/ ap/ 20070111/ ap_on_re_mi_ea/ iraq
I guess the Iranians will reciprocate
Comment by mrJJ
Oh, Shit
January 11th, 2007 at 2:02 pm“The political and religious representatives of Iraq’s Sunni Muslim population accuse the Iranian leadership of supporting Shiite militias and even sending its own fighters to take part in dead squads…”
© 2006 dpa German Press Agency
Comment by New Yorker #241
NOTE:
…the reference to “death squads” as “dead squads” is a GLARING mistake by a professional media source…
…if this ACTUALLY CAME from a reputable media source…
…just pointing that out…
January 11th, 2007 at 2:12 pmComment by Sir Greg Nevins — January 11, 2007 @ 4:21 am
Hey, when did you grow the ’sir’? Seems like you were knighted in the middle of the night on Tuesday’s threads? The queen must really like you!
January 11th, 2007 at 2:32 pm————————————-
Ignore the ‘man’ behind the ’sir’, nothing you say in response to him will make a dent in his armor of belief in Bush.
Bush is expanding his oil war. WWIII, here we come.
January 11th, 2007 at 2:44 pmUSA, Israel, Saudi Arabia
Bush: OK we all agree to attack Iran?
January 11th, 2007 at 2:51 pmKing Fahd: If you leave Iraq we will fund our brothers the Sunnis in Iraq.
Bush: Hey King, What will it take for you to be on board to attack Iran?
King Fahd: Stay in Iraq and resolve the Israel/Palestenian problem.
Bush: OK. Ohlmert, dude, what you say?
Ohlmert: OK. If you attack Iran I will make kissy, kissy with Abbas
Bush: High Five!!!!
Amazing, isn’t it? It was here on this board were the obvious was populated first. People here know where we are heading. Remember Hitler? “Wollt ihr den totalen Krieg?” – “Do You want total war?” The staged masses answered “Yes!”
January 11th, 2007 at 3:18 pmThis time it is different. The masses don’t want total war, but they will get it anyway. Because there is a psychopathic mass murderer in the WH. The Iranian Embassy was raided. US troops went IN and ABDUCTED diplomatic personel. This is a blatant disregard of international law and in earlier times in history granted a reason to go to war.
Without getting too much into what the consequences will be,
let us contemplate about our possible reactions.
The most important factor for this administration is money. In whatever form it appears. Behind this administration are powers that want exactly that – money. It is all about money in good capitalist and imperialist tradition.
The only way to stop this administration is to dry out the funds that keep it going. I am not talking about Congress and its rather useless attempts to stop Bush. No, I am talking about the American people that have hearts and brains left, that love their children, their families and their friends.
Stop spending money period. Buy only what You need to barely survive. Don’t drive more than to work or the supermarket. Don’t go to the movies, don’t fly or go on vacations. Don’t spend any dollar anymore. If that seems to be too big of a sacrifice, well then make yourself familiar with the effects of a nuclear war that will not be limited to the Middle East. The World is already against the US. Nations will join the fight against the imperial USA of which you thought of as ‘allies’. It is in (Y)OUR hands to prevent the greatest
catastrophy humans have ever witnessed. If you think that is exaggerated, wait and see. There are recognizable patterns throughout history as of what results a specific action will show. Act now. Total consumer boycott now. Show them who is ‘The People’. Your voice can be ignored, your dollars will not. And with all due respect for people here that are talking about elections in 2008. Will You please wake up? There will be no more 2008 if we don’t act now.
It’s okay, we have all done it =) Usually we put /sarcasm on after a post to reduce those kinds of misunderstandings. But if you notice I did not cover for Bush nor his energy policy.
Thanks for clarifying Loretta, blessings.
January 11th, 2007 at 3:29 pmtom baker
Who!? is this “Nevins†character? What a goof. Dubbie is hanging himself in public, and I love it. Nebbish thinks it’s “another glorious victory†for hateful, hysterical ninnies such as himself. That is downright uproarious. Ex and MA are chimin’ in too, which is just as cute as it gets, and ol’ Happy Guy is staggering around somewhere, wacked out on slimfast and pop tarts, talkin about how Ted Kennedy is fat – what a circus!, what a clown-car of half-understood, overenthused equivocation! This IS entertainment, more than even Gretchen Carlson, Neal Cavuto, or Stephen Colbert could ever hope to deliver!!
I LoL’ed
January 11th, 2007 at 4:53 pmIt’s time for this administration to be removed. We must go all out to stop them from enlarging this fiasco. We msu also encourage our friends and relatives in the military to refuse deployment.
This is the typical rantings of a Left Wing Liberal COWARD!!!! They will NEVER FIGHT for ANY CAUSE!!! They ALL have a big YELLOW streak down their backs… Now you see it for yourself.
January 11th, 2007 at 6:08 pmThursday morning and I’m coming down from my wild binge last night. Nothing like a Bush speech to send me flying. Pills & booze. Yeehah. In my drunken stupor, I channeled “Sir Greg Nevin.†He’s me and I’m him. I can’t believe what I wrote last night. Sorry for wasting your time.
Dear Exley, you could NEVER be me even in your wildest Drunken state of mind…. It sounds like you channeled Ted Kennedy — you know him don’t you? He killed a young woman by leaving her in his car to drown after he drove it off a bridge into the water after getting drunker than a skunk… I think you should stick to the Left Wing Liberal drink of choice —- KOOL AID!!!!!
January 11th, 2007 at 6:13 pmHey, when did you grow the ’sir’? Seems like you were knighted in the middle of the night on Tuesday’s threads? The queen must really like you!
Dear Plain Jane, The Queen of England does LOVE me very much and she admires my steadfast Support of President George W. Bush with not only with my words but with all the MONEY I contribute to the Republican Party to make sure more Republicans are Elected to the White House, House, Senate and Supreme Court!!!!! You just keep drinking your KOOL AID little girl…. You are 10 years old right????? and that is SIR GREG to YOU….
January 11th, 2007 at 6:19 pmBush is expanding his oil war. WWIII, here we come.
Dear Dim Wit Karim, if Bush is fighting in Iraq for OIL…. Where is ALL of the oil and why aren’t we getting it???? Iraq has the second largest oil reserves in the Middle East…. You seems to have a one track mind….. It is apparent that your another one of those Left Wing Mentally Challenged Members of the Democratic Party!!!! WHAT A BUNCH OF LOSERS!!!!!!
January 11th, 2007 at 6:23 pmI understand why he finds it easy to send thousands of American citizens to their slaughter in Iraq. They come from poor and middle class background. They are suppose to serve Oil and War merchants.
This is more of the typical DRIVEL of the Left Wing LIberals!!! They don’t have a CLUE what the the War on Terror is all about… They just stick their heads into the ground and repeat all of these MORONIC statements that are completly 100% inaccurate and just BS!!!! Please STOP making a FOOL of yoursleves and keep your mouths SHUT!!!!!
January 11th, 2007 at 6:27 pmWho!? is this “Nevins†character? What a goof. Dubbie is hanging himself in public, and I love it. Nebbish thinks it’s “another glorious victory†for hateful, hysterical ninnies such as himself. That is downright uproarious.
Dear tom, Your Family has my total and complete sympathy for having to put up with such a Mentally Challenged son, brother, and Idiot!!!! President Bush is our duly Elected Commander-in-Chief and you should show him some RESPECT!!!! I know that is very hard for ALL of you LOW CLASS TRAILER TRASH LEFT WING LIBERAL COAWRDS!!!!!!
January 11th, 2007 at 6:32 pmIt was my opionion at the time of the US/Irainian hostage crisis that the US would have been justified in invading Iran due to their attack on our soil.
These reason the U. S. didn’t INVADE Iran in the 1970’s when Iran entered our Embassy and took our Hostages was because we had a CHICKEN SHIT Democrat occupying the White House by the name of Jimmy Carter, the PEANUT FARMER — with a PEANUT for a BRAIN!!!! He was the ABSOLUTE WORST PRESIDENT this Country ever Elected…. He was WORSE than Herbert Hoover who presided over the GREAT DEPRESSION!!!!
Ex-President Carter is still a Total Disgrace to the Office of the President!!
January 11th, 2007 at 6:38 pmI am trying to be nice today……
Would someone please strap Bush to the bow of one of these carriers – below the water line?
Sorry, but that space has already BEEN RESERVED for Hillary, the Power Hungry Bitch who fantasizes everyday, as she moves to the CENTER, that she might get elected to be President of this Country….. She is so far LEFT she would fall off the California Coast — San Francisco no doubt….
OVER MY DEAD BODY!!!!!!
January 11th, 2007 at 6:41 pmThis includes both Dems and Repubs…..John McCain, Joe Lieberman, Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Joe Biden, and John Kerry. None of these people deserve to be president after making such a critical error in judgment and representation of the american people.
I totally agree with YOU…. NONE of these Senators are FIT to be the Commander-in-Chief of this Country. The great people of America will Elect Mitt Romney, the 2008 Republican Candidate for President!!!! HOORAY!!!!
January 11th, 2007 at 6:46 pm[...] Tonight on MSNBC, Chris Matthews aggressively questioned White House Press Secretary Tony Snow about whether President Bush’s rhetoric last night was a “precursor for a rationale for an attack” on Iran. [...]
January 11th, 2007 at 7:06 pmBush is amazing. He makes the Iranian Mullahs look like geniuses who act rationally and logically. We need to get rid of this mad man for the world’s sake. Let’s impeach Bush and his buddies before its too late.
January 11th, 2007 at 10:26 pm[...] Antiwar Radio for January 11, 2007: Antiwar.com editorial director Justin Raimondo on Bush’s speech and the further disaster it portends. [...]
January 12th, 2007 at 2:29 amNevins – I have all my respect for the Dubbie clenched between my buttocks. As you are his doggie, you can fetch it for him, k?
January 12th, 2007 at 5:07 pm[...] Think Progress / January 12, 2007 [...]
January 12th, 2007 at 7:35 pmI don’t know how World War 3 will be fought… but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones. -Einstein (contemplating nuclear war)
January 12th, 2007 at 11:16 pmIraq is a war that has been lost. America should have never gone over there to begin with. A war with Iran will be much worse.
I think that the U.S. should pull all its troops out of Iraq, stop attacking Iranian Consulates in Iraq and stop meddling in the internal affairs of other countries.
Iran has a right to enrich uranium for peaceful purposes for making electricity. The U.S. has no business telling other countries what to do or how to run their government or what kind of government they are going to have.
Iran has never done anything to the United States, nor have they threatened to do anything to the U.S.. The U.S. needs to leave Iran alone.
January 13th, 2007 at 12:57 amBush is a very stupid man. The whole world hates America because of Bush’s arrogance. Bush does not want to talk to either Iran or North Korea and now, God help us, North Korea has a nuclear weapon. All because of Bush’s arrogance is why these countries are stepping up their military because they are worried that the U.S. is going to attack and invade their country.
January 13th, 2007 at 12:59 amTo Sir Greg Nevins, the U.S. got what it deserved when the Iranians stormed the U.S. Embassy in 1979. The U.S. staged a coup in Iran in 1953 to unseat a democratically elected president, Mohammed Mossadegh and then placed the Shah back in power.
As far as Jimmy Carter is concerned, although I am a Marxist, I have alot of respect for President Jimmy Carter because he has helped people in other countries try to destroy life threatening diseases. He wrote an excellent book called, “Palestine: Peace not Apartheid.” It is excellent and I agree strongly with it.
January 13th, 2007 at 1:11 amSir Greg Nevins, Mitt Romney is an idiot. I do not like him because he is opposed to same-sex marriage, abortion and stem-cell research.
I think a woman has a right to have an abortion and do what ever she wishes to her own body. I also think a gay or lesbian couple should be allowed to marry. It is not the state or federal government’s place to tell someone who they can and cannot marry. Also, I also feel that if embryonic stem cells are going to be destroyed anyway, why not use them for research to stop debilitating diseases?
January 13th, 2007 at 1:17 amBrandon – No one hates America more than two groups – Radical Koranimals and self-avowed Marxist-Leninists. Funny thing about our “fellow travellers” – they’d be the FIRSt one killed by Koranimals….Please tell me your mom and dad did not waste THEIR money on your “education”.
January 13th, 2007 at 6:09 pmBrandon parrots “I think a woman has a right to have an abortion and do what ever she wishes to her own body. I also think a gay or lesbian couple should be allowed to marry. It is not the state or federal government’s place to tell someone who they can and cannot marry….”
*******Of course you do, Brandon. Have you EVER had an original thought emerge from your brain and fall from your lips?
January 13th, 2007 at 6:11 pm“He makes the Iranian Mullahs look like geniuses who act rationally and logically….Let’s impeach Bush and his buddies before its too late.” Comment by justamazed
****Dear Just – Great idea!! You might change your mind right before they execute you…..but you’re so stupid, I doubt it.
January 13th, 2007 at 6:35 pmMighty Aphrodite, how DARE you judge me. All of my thoughts are original. You sound like a neo-con. So, you think Marxist-Leninists hate America. I doubt it. I do not hate America. I hate that America interferes in the internal affairs of other countries and will not take care of its own people here. I think that the government should take care of its communities without interfering in the lives of its people.
January 13th, 2007 at 10:50 pmYou also sound like that you are against Muslims, Mighty Aphrodite. Muslims are a peaceful people. However, they do not want their country invaded and destroyed by the United States.
January 13th, 2007 at 10:51 pm[...] As Think Progress notes, the White House took multiple steps yesterday to elevate dramatically the threat rhetoric against Iran. Bush included what The New York Times described as “some of his sharpest words of warning to Iran†yet. But those words could really be described more accurately not as “threats†but as a declaration of war. [...]
January 17th, 2007 at 12:23 am[...] Iran has not really changed despite the Bush administration’s recent seemingly more aggressive pronouncements and actions, their policy of backing the Iran parties in Iraq and Iran’s spurned attempts to make [...]
March 13th, 2007 at 12:09 pm