This morning on Fox News, anchor Gretchen Carlson called Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) a “hostile enemy” of the United States because he has demanded that Congress vote on whether to approve funding for escalation in Iraq. In an interview with White House counselor Dan Bartlett, Carlson compared Kennedy to insurgents and terrorists in Iraq, saying that Kennedy represented the same kind of force “right here on the home front.” Watch it:
Dan Bartlett disagreed, saying that the White House doesn’t “view Ted Kennedy as a hostile enemy” of the United States.
Transcript:
GRETCHEN CARLSON: You talk about the hostile enemy, obviously being Iraq, but hostile enemies right here on the home front. Yesterday Senator Ted Kennedy, proposing that any kind of a troop surge should mean there should be congressional approval of that. A lot of democrats not coming to his side on this. But obviously this is not going to be an easy sell on Capitol Hill, even if it’s not an easy sell to the American Public.
BARTLETT: We don’t view Ted Kennedy as hostile enemy but we do view him to be an open and often critic of the war. He has been from the outset. I don’t think that’s anything new.
Consider the source. That’s all am going to say about the “Fake News” network.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:27 amNow that’s just sad. Dan Bartlett comes off as the sane one.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:27 amWith “friends” like any Kennedy, who needs enemies?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:28 amWith “friends†like any Kennedy, who needs enemies?
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Is Kennedy your friend, or your enemy?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:32 amIsn’t this the one having an affair with Brit Hume? Not that it matters.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:33 amWith idiots like Jason Hendler, who needs trolls?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:34 amHeh. Its funny to watch them go all the way to promote the war agenda.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:35 amTwo words: “Fair & Balanced”
January 10th, 2007 at 10:36 amWhat next? Declaring him an “enemy combatant”?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:39 amI can see calling Kennedy an enemy of the Bush policy, but certainly not a “hostile” one since I haven’t seen any guns drawn and absolutely nothing but an American patriot doing what a representative of the people should be doing.
With “friends†like any Kennedy, who needs enemies? …Comment by Jason M. Hendler
I guess that means we don’t need to create any foreign boogeymen enemies and we can bring our troops home.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:43 amGretchen Carlson’s remark concerning Senator Kennedy is simply emblematic of the topic discussed in Geoffrey Stone’s book Perilous Times- Free Speech in Wartime- From the Sedition Act of 1798 to the War on Terrorism. What this woman has said is what has been uttered since this country has been founded in which any questioning of the government’s policies, much less dissent, has been looked upn as being traitorous. When this country engages in war, people’s emotions run high and as a consequence their brains seem to shut down. She and others at Fox “News” would do well to recall the words, if I am not mistaken, of Howard Zinn, who wisely put forth that “Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.”
January 10th, 2007 at 10:43 amIsn’t Kennedy already on the no-fly list?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:44 amOnce again, it’s not Fox news it’s Fox opinion.
Jason H. Ted Kennedy is holding the President and his administration to the original Resolution. Where are the reports every 60 days? What criteria remain that haven’t been accomplished per the Resolution?
Answer those questions and then we’ll debate that. I’m looking at a copy of the resolution now and would love to read your take on why GW thinks he doesn’t have to be held accountable.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:46 amOn a similar note, Sean Hannity had a segment on Sean Penn and referred to him as an “Enemy of the State 
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/01/10/hannity-sean-penn-is-an-enemy-of-the-state/
They’re just “conditioning” people to get used to these terms for when the become more commonplace in the next few years.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:46 amfox is really ratcheting up that eliminationist rhetoric, aren’t they. at some point, someone is going to be murdered due to this shit.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:47 amAnd this is somehow not true? If so, why do we have a congress in the first place?
A lot implies more than one. How many can you name? Otherwise, this is another lie.
What isn’t an easy sell? Bush’s plan? We already know that’s not an easy sell either to Congress or the American people. But I think she means Kennedy’s plan, in which case, another lie.
Wow, Fox news brainwashing in full spin cycle!
January 10th, 2007 at 10:48 amI’m shocked, Shocked I say that Dan Bartlett didn’t forcefully agree with Faux News!
He’s paying more attention to the American ppublic than they are…
January 10th, 2007 at 10:48 amwhy does fox even have a broadcast license ??
fox should be nuked !!!
January 10th, 2007 at 10:49 amWhat is this Fox News you speak of? Never heard of it much less watched it.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:50 amFOX calls Sen. Ted Kennedy a traitor? Bush and Cheney are war criminals who must be impeached > PERIOD.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:51 amGeez…Fox News have some nerve.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:52 amThere’s a typo in your headline… I believe the correct term is Fox News Wanchor.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:52 amIs it too late to call her a poo poo head?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:55 amIsn’t Kennedy already on the no-fly list?
Comment by Zoo
I heard that a while ago too. Did he manage to get taken off?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:57 am“someone is going to be murdered due to this shit.”
Comment by linda
One never can tell about these things…
…it’d be tragic but…
…maybe humankind will get lucky:
Humus
Handiddy
OLiarly
Krystalball
Limphog
Coldergeist
…for starters…
God knows their hate-filled Karma demands it…
January 10th, 2007 at 10:57 amThis whole ‘plan’ is ’stay the course’.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:58 amJust more of it.
Hey Gretchen,
It will be OK if you just stay out of his car.
On the other hand I doubt that you would be invited.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:58 amWell, I guess Democrats are going to call for a “symbolic” resolution. Oh, that’s exactly what Americans voted for in the last election: symbolism. Well, maybe we could send “symbolic” troops with “symbolic” equipment , and use “symbolic” money to finace them. What a joke.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:59 amIs it too late to call her a poo poo head?
Comment by hellinabucket
It looks like you’ll have to go that route, hellina. ForTruth’s been deleted twice forusing variations of the naughty b-word, and I was deleted for referencing it.
**eyes rolling**
January 10th, 2007 at 11:00 amI have never cared for “Teddy the Swimmer”. He may be an a-hole, but at least he is a consistant a-hole.
why does fox even have a broadcast license ??
fox should be nuked !!!
Comment by outtasight
Because of this wonderful thing called the Constitution. Here’s a concept. If you don’t like it DON’T WATCH IT.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:00 amI heard that a while ago too. Did he manage to get taken off?
Comment by ForTruth
They just make him fly in an airplane now. Heh.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:01 amGretchin is a mean person.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:03 amGretchen wouldn’t know a “hostile enemy” of the United States if one was to erode our Civil Liberties, bankrupt us and our military and sit idly by while we lost an entire American city.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:03 amFlies are on the no-fly list, they are gross.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:03 amBecause of this wonderful thing called the Constitution. Here’s a concept. If you don’t like it DON’T WATCH IT.
Comment by rant_on
Good idea! If you don’t like Ted Kennedy DON’T LISTEN TO HIM.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:05 amYes. Anyone who does not support der chymp’s Unitary Executive claims, is, on face, an enemy of the stadt.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:05 am/sarcasm off
Isn’t that the help O.J. station?
January 10th, 2007 at 11:05 amThey just make him fly in an airplane now. Heh.
Comment by Zoo
Ha!
January 10th, 2007 at 11:06 amBy endorsing the insane idea that it is possible to have a military answer to terrorism, have the Democrats not shot themselves (and the US) in the foot? You cannot say it is a war and then tell the Commander-in-Chief how to fight this war. Congress does not have the mandate to micromanage a military conflict. In that scenario, Kennedy can said to be undermining the Commander-in-Chief at a time of war and is, therefore, an Enemy of the State.
Remember what got us here. We are in this mess because we are fighting the wrong war. We are fighting a war that simply cannot be won. Terrorism is a tactic. Terrorism is not the “enemyâ€. Terrorists, by their very definition, have the constancy of mere shadows and shadows cannot be eliminated irrespective of how many nukes you drop on them.
I am afraid that if the Democrats in Congress are too scared to challenge the very central meme of a military answer to terrorism, Bush can do what he likes, when he likes it, and the US is well and truly screwed.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:07 amBecause of this wonderful thing called the Constitution. Here’s a concept. If you don’t like it DON’T WATCH IT.
Comment by rant_on
The shame sir, is that people will watch faux News and BELIEVE it is true. They go nowhere else for their news. Knowledgeable and thoughtful folks know Fox’s agenda, but others (kool-aid drinkers) just soak it up. They go to that network for their daily ‘talking points’. It is also curious to see the word constitution within your comment. Perhaps you should forward your post to the temporary resident of the white house. I don’t think he knows what that document is all about.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:07 amThe propagandists are growing more desperate and even more outspoken in their outrageous attempts to squelch any and all opposition.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:07 amGretchen bubblehead is an example of Fact-free Fox values: blonde, empty headed, and willing puppet — all bondes should take offense that she perpetuates the stereotype.
rant_on sez:
Not good enough. FOX news, by continuing to act its part as the propaganda arm of this corrupt and criminal administration, is engaging in speech that is endangering the American Public. Free Speech clearly does not protect this sort of lying and hatemongering.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:08 am#11, I think the quote is from T. Jefferson.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:09 amAs the rabid right gets more desperate, they turn up the rhetoric, and they are already way into the absurd. I think we will hear much more and louder, as the mighty wurlitzer is going to get turned up even further. I’ve never seen or heard this Gretchen Carlson, and other than being a blond haired “news anchor,: for faux news, what qualifies her to make such accusations.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:10 amIsn’t this point a really old worn out talking point? The whole “either your with us or against us” or the “You are a traitor if you don’t lick Bush’s boots” stuff. Gretchin is calling 70% of this country hostile enemies. Anyone seeing this Administration for what it is, is a hostile enemie.
Gretchin is a hostile enema.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:10 amJeezus, and I though ED “The Ice Queen” Hill was bad.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:13 amThis announcement should clarify things for all Americans.
Clearly, Fox news is a hostile enemy to the constitution, civil rights, and democracy right here on the home front.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:15 amThere really are women who don’t have that motherly instinct.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:15 amRe: Errol
January 10th, 2007 at 11:17 am“In a democracy, dissent is an act of faith” -William Fulbright
Nice one PLC.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:18 amAbby
Your logic, from premise to post, is so tortured that you must be a Rumsfeld protege.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:18 amI smell a Keith Olbermann Worst Person in the World segment in this.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:19 amGretchen? That’s a fat girl’s name!
January 10th, 2007 at 11:19 amComment by Tom,
I think a copy of the Constitution needs to be sent to the WH, The House of Rep AND the Senate. They ALL need a reminder.
Aside from that, you can’t fix stupid. If people want to depend on Fox or CNN for their news, who are we to stop it? That would be censorship.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:20 amProposed: Solution to Win the Iraq War…
Problem 1: Uniforms
January 10th, 2007 at 11:21 amIt’s very difficult to fight a war when the opposing soldiers don’t wear a uniform to distinguish them from civilians. The Geneva Conventions provide certain protections for “Lawful Combatants,” but such prot…
Isn’t that an accurate way to describe Faux News?!!
January 10th, 2007 at 11:21 amShe was Miss America in 1989, ewww.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:23 amMe like Fox News. Fox News tells me what I need to know.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:24 amSo if the act of dissent makes you a traitor, just what are these “freedoms” we went to war to protect? To wear white after Labor Day? To buy Crest instead of Colgate? Geez, that’s sure worth 3k plus lives.
Are we fighting for a principle, or just cheering on the home team, like this is some kind of football game? If, as our fearless leader proclaims, the enemy attacked us because they “hate our freedom,” who wins when we surrender that very freedom? Duhh! Get a grip, Fox.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:27 amI would pretty much support a Clinton/Kennedy run for the white house, just so I could watch the right wing melt down. Fox News would be a mad house of insane rants 24/7, instead of the 18/7 we have now.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:30 amNew bumper sticker?
Be an Enemy of the “State” – Support Congressional Oversight
January 10th, 2007 at 11:31 amWho hates freedom now?
January 10th, 2007 at 11:31 amI guess 60% of Americans are hostile enemies right here on the home front, too, then.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:31 amNice one PLC.
Comment by ForTruth
Someone didn’t think so – it seems to have disappeared! Ah well, we all know that life is a Badly Informed, Truth Challenged Human condition.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:32 amShe was Miss America in 1989, ewww.
Comment by ForTruth
One can only imagine what her “talent” was…
January 10th, 2007 at 11:33 amShe was Miss America in 1989, ewww.
Comment by ForTruth
Really!!?? I thought they were all for “world peace”?
January 10th, 2007 at 11:33 amI think we know who the enemies are, FOX…
January 10th, 2007 at 11:34 amJeez, PLC even got a post of his deleted. That’s just not right.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:35 amWouldn’t Fox better its ratings by having the Florida Gators tag team this
January 10th, 2007 at 11:37 amcooz live ?
It is time to revoke Faux News’ license to broadcast.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:38 amIt makes you wonder, during all those years she was a news anchor for various network affiliates, if she was just suppressing her right-wing bile and finally found an outlet for it. Or is this an act where she gets paid a huge bonus for being extra nutty and spewing lots of hateful lies?
January 10th, 2007 at 11:39 am“Are you aware of the co-relationship between 666 and FOX news? Virtually the only word in the English language that could be created from these numbers is FOX.
F = 6th letter in the alphabet
O = 15th letter 1+5 = 6
X = 24th letter 2+4 = 6
An incredible co-incidence or by design?”
January 10th, 2007 at 11:39 amSo thats where the vacuous beauty pageant contestants go when they get old.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:40 amSo thats Fox’s new tactic? Hostile Enemy?
January 10th, 2007 at 11:40 amI hope Ted Kennedy sue the network.
Somebody has to.Free Speech goes two ways except if you are not asying what Fox news WANTS YOU TO SAY!
Jeez, PLC even got a post of his deleted. That’s just not right.
Comment by ForTruth
Post 64 got through, with the bold highlights deleted. Maybe if we type backwards (hctib), the filter fairy will be confused. Or Latin (feminae cannis).
January 10th, 2007 at 11:44 amIsn’t Kennedy already on the no-fly list?
Comment by Zoo — January 10, 2007 @ 10:44 am
Yes, but that’s because of weight limitations. ;-)
January 10th, 2007 at 11:44 amI won”t be sure Ted Kennedy is an enemy until Rick Santorum says so. After all, we can surely trust the head of the Americas Enemies program at the Ethics and Foreign Policy Council can’t we?
January 10th, 2007 at 11:45 amFighting back…
I am using the term “Disgraced President”, “Disgraced Aministration”, Disgraced Vice President”, Disgraced Secretary of State and “Disgraced White House”, when referring to President Bush and or the administration.
I belive that it is important to fight the Neo-Con abrasive rhetoric with a subtle rhetoric of our own…. At least our definition falls closer to home and is more credible….
I would suggest to all like minded progressives that they do the same. ie. “Our disgraced President announced a troop surge today…”
Best Regards,
Econolicious
January 10th, 2007 at 11:46 amCan you believe it? Dan Bartlett, White House spokesman, DEFENDED Senator “Breast Stoke”? Will wonders never cease?
Tooodles….
January 10th, 2007 at 11:48 amOK, I give up. I’ll be nice. No more trying to fool the filter. Here goes:
Ms. Gretchen Carlson is a fantastic female FOX.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:49 amLet’s win this war, quick and efficiently, then get our boys (and girls) home!
To do so the military needs to publicly address 3 problems:
1) Define the enemy’s “uniform” (so we know who we’re fighting), then detain EVERYONE that matches that uniform.
2) Declare any building that serves as a command post as a military target (even if it’s a religious building or shrine).
3) The media is reporting on the realities of war, which sway public opinion in a biased manner. This then effects the policy of running the war, which inevitably hurts the war efforts and results in more of our soldiers being injured or killed. Ban the media from the Theater of War (including, but not limited to the country of Iraq), anyone reporter found in the country should be detained under Suspicion of Treason/Sedition, with habeas corpus proceedings delayed until the end of hostilities (read: after the war is over).
No, they’re not politically correct, and yes, I know I’ll get flamed for my opinions. Luckily I live in a country where my freedom of speech and freedom of expression are protected.
– Joe Levi, http://www.JoeLevi.com
January 10th, 2007 at 11:49 amOne can only imagine what her “talent†was…
Comment by Zoo
Good thing I haven’t eaten anything yet.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:49 amWho would have thought that wanting to enforce a system of checks and balances makes one a hostile enemy. Friggin Bush-worshippers. I’m in the wrong business!
January 10th, 2007 at 11:49 amExposing conservatives’ radical rhetoric, such as Carlson’s, is important, which is why Think Progress is important. Exposing such rhetoric is step one, but widening the awareness numerically is also critically important, especially in a democracy, and offering a compelling and widely-available alternative to the rhetoric is the ultimate need.
Millions of Americans have Fox News as virtually their sole source for news. (My parents are an example, actually, and they’re not unintelligent people.) But there is no other option both compelling and widely-available to them (e.g., a 24-hour news network on basic cable that’s actually balanced or even slanted to the left instead of to the [far] right).
January 10th, 2007 at 11:49 amFox News is a hostile enemy of the United States, doing everything they can to make sure more Americans are needlessly killed.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:49 amIn 2009 Gretchen will be out of a job.
see only Bush and his ilk need a boot licker
January 10th, 2007 at 11:50 am[...] This morning on Fox News, anchor Gretchen Carlson called Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) a “hostile enemy†of the United States because he has demanded that Congress vote on whether to approve funding for escalation in Iraq. In an interview with White House counselor Dan Bartlett, Carlson compared Kennedy to insurgents and terrorists in Iraq, saying that Kennedy represented the same kind of force “right here on the home front.†…” – Think Progress [...]
January 10th, 2007 at 11:56 am78. I like it. I’m sure you are going to see varients to that. Such as: Ignorant President, Incompetent Administration, Dillusional President, ADD President and so on.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:57 amRachel,
Laura Bush’s front bumper has your name all over it.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:57 amJoe,
January 10th, 2007 at 11:58 amWhat a naive, fool you are. In fact, you’re a top contender for a nomination in Shrub’s administration with such a childish, 3 step suggestion!
Next time, try comedy, I think it suits you best.
FOX still ‘Swiftboating…..’
January 10th, 2007 at 11:59 amThe Hostile Enemies are the Administration, W., the Cardiac Kid, Rummy and Rice and all their supporters and co-conspirators, fellow travelers, Fox “News” etc. who have acted to undermine our economic and military security and destabilized a good part of the planet.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:01 pmThese people should all be in prison.
This war was not a mistake that in hindsight or any other way can be justified. It was and continues to be a subversive misadventure which has cost us billions of dollars and needlessly and pointlessly sacrificed thousands of American lives.
Joe, why don’t we just enlist all US Citizens (big time draft). Give them all uniforms and then start marching on all other countries? Anyone that doesn’t look like us then “Off with their head!!!”
Don’t know how much it will cost or if it’s even morally correct but why not.
How about not.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:04 pmWho would have thought that a United States Senator would be referred to as a hostile enemy for DOING HIS JOB?
Fox News is a disgrace and should be taken off the air…it’s run by a non-American, is it not? Who are they really working for?
January 10th, 2007 at 12:04 pmComment by rachel b — January 10, 2007 @ 11:54 am
Yesterday, rachel b tested to see if her post would get through by posting “Titty Titty“, then “Test Test”. Nice, rachel.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:04 pmIseFire,
January 10th, 2007 at 12:04 pmSure, my mom’s intelligent too, but she still watches Fox too much, therefore, she’s an idiot. See? If they can’t see the bullsh*t on Fox, then they aren’t too bright…Like my poor old mom.
What disturbs me with this current style of rhetoric is that the the wingnut loner with a gun thinks they’re talking to them and might act on it. This type of Hate Speech from a public forum needs to stop now!
January 10th, 2007 at 12:05 pmWow, it’s amazing to watch Fox News push the “Neocon” agenda. It just shows how very not democratic Amerikans can be when they oppose senators actually wanting Congress to have anything to do with our troops, and our nations foreign policy. Viva la dictator! I think some people just need to be ruled absolutely.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:07 pmMarie at #43
This seems to be an urbanand/or historical myth, that the quote that I cited at #11 was originally said by Thomas Jefferson but it was in fact first said by Howard Zinn in an interview conducted by TomPaine.com in May of 2004. I do believe that Jefferson would certainly have shared the same sentiments that Howard Zinn had put forth, that one does not have to support the government, despite what Fox “News” may believe, in order to be a patriot to one’s country.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:07 pmWell, on the bright side, at least she didn’t call him a “drunken, can’t-drive-across-a-bridge hostile enemy.”
Baby steps, folks …. baby steps.
;-)
January 10th, 2007 at 12:08 pmFiscal Conservatives, oh Fiscal Conservatives, where are thee? I miss thee so… At least us “libs” could debate you on actual issues instead of just being labeled unpatriotic, terrorist, or anti-american…
January 10th, 2007 at 12:10 pmI like the boycott idea. I also think that the anchor should be fired or at least be forced to make a public, on-air apology. Unfortunatley, there’s little else that can be done by the government without raising thorny First Amendment issues–on both a legal and policy basis.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:12 pmPerhaps we should just end this once and for all.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:13 pmAll the Red Staters who want a dictator can secede from the union, and W can be their god/emperor.
The rest of us blue staters can get our democratic republic back.
How come Geraldo Rivers has not threatened to turn Senator Kennedy into a pizza yet?
January 10th, 2007 at 12:14 pm[...] Link (Carlson is a FOX News anchor, Bartlett is a White House counselor): GRETCHEN CARLSON: You talk about the hostile enemy, obviously being Iraq, but hostile enemies right here on the home front. Yesterday Senator Ted Kennedy, proposing that any kind of a troop surge should mean there should be congressional approval of that. A lot of democrats not coming to his side on this. But obviously this is not going to be an easy sell on Capitol Hill, even if it’s not an easy sell to the American Public. [...]
January 10th, 2007 at 12:15 pmFox news is so easy to manipulate. This is how you do it: They ask, pretty often to e-mail them your points of view. Well, we all no they will only read the ones the like (or not dislike). But, they are very vain. They love it to read questions, remarks from people abroad. It gives the network a global image. Look at us, even people from ….. watch us. I managed to get my remark on the air. 3 times! On of of them was are we chasing the right people. My answer was (and this was read in fox news):
No, i dont think we are chasing the right people. We should be chasing this Osama Bin Laden! WE ARE NOT!
Ok, i realise, this is not world shocking, but at least it makes it on the air, to fox news viewers. And that is probably the most extreme view they ever heart on Fox.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:16 pmDear Gretchen;
In the words of Ari Fleischer:
“… all Americans… need to watch what they say, watch what they do.”
Have a nice day…
January 10th, 2007 at 12:17 pmThe real enemy of the United States is false “news programs” that load trusting viewers up with propaganda from the White House Cabal.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:17 pmYou really want them to be in control of even half of the USA’s military and nuclear arsenal? The world would be completely doomed. It’s us that is keeping them at bay long enough to not blow up the world!
January 10th, 2007 at 12:18 pmJust keep in mind the hellstorm you’d have unleashed in the year after Sept. 11 had you dared to criticize President Bush on any matter at all. Not only would it be a “personal attack” — even if it was a mere criticism of strategy or policy — but you were also “Hating America First”(tm) and hurting our brave soldiers by undermining their commander-in-chief.
Now vapid blonde haircuts in a chanel suits are emboldened to call a duly-elected U.S. Senator a “hostile enemy” of the U.S. during what is ostensibly a straight news segment.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:20 pm“Hostile enemy” ?
As distinguished from what…a “Friendly Enemy”? A “Cordial Enemy”?
Fox News: The Benthic Network, featuring hysterical ranting from biased “Fair and Balanced” anchors.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:21 pmFox news is biased, we all know that by now.
Trying to take the high road though, kudos to Bartlett for not echoing Carlson’s ridiculous construct.
Even though Bush’s policies have proven disastrous on a variety of fronts, I doubt that the left and sceptical moderates would loathe this administration even a fraction of what is the current sentiment if they would just stick to highlighting the percieved strengths and benefits of their policies and ideas (however ludicrous they may be) and not engaging in ad hominem B.S. like Fox. Getting personal hurts one’s cause over the long term and leaves movements vacuous and lacking in meaningful ideas.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:22 pm[...] so It comes as no surprise that Ted Kennedy has finally been revealed to be hostile enemy. Permalink| [...]
January 10th, 2007 at 12:23 pmwrite letters to their advertisers, you won’t change fox but you can influence those that pay their salaries.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:26 pm#110 – Hmm. I guess that we’d have to keep the keys to the arsenal as well. Oh, well, I knew it was just wishful thinking!
January 10th, 2007 at 12:29 pm#110 – On second thought, why don’t we relocate them to Iraq to replace the 12% of the population that’s evacuated our man made hell…
January 10th, 2007 at 12:30 pm#100 erroll
January 10th, 2007 at 12:31 pmRegardless of the source – the quote remains quotable and applicable, unless one is a Fox, fact-free propagandist. :)
Like they say Fox News Far from balanced….opps I mean Fair and Balanced
January 10th, 2007 at 12:33 pmTalk about a “Hostile Enemy” not only in the Democratic party, but right here in the Rupublican Administration. Dan Bartlett actually dared to mildly disagree with Fox New’s continuing attempt to insinuate Senator Kennedy into retirement in the Guantinimo Bay Not So Shady Acres Home for Inconvenient Opponants.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:34 pmTo Jason Hendler:
With Friends like Bush, who needs enemas?
January 10th, 2007 at 12:35 pmIf Kennedy is a “hostile enemy” for opposing sending more troops in harm’s way in a futile cause, then I guess the vast majority of Americans are “hostile enemies” of America. Huh, Fox? Or maybe they actually think any opposition to Bush is treason. Yeah, we fought a revolution to get rid of a king George, but Fox wants to install our very own new King George, and this one battier than the one we got rid of!
January 10th, 2007 at 12:39 pmThis is an FCC matter
Such utterances are as obscene as any of the deadly words the FCC levies fines for. These are our airways, and the FCC should investigate such hate speech on our airwaves, and take appropriate action. Hefty fines won’t by themselves eliminate the problem, but WILL have the salient effect of drawing wider attention to Fox’s continuing abuses. Concurrently, an investigation under RICO could provide additional insights into a continuing pattern of lies and subversive activities.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:40 pm#122
January 10th, 2007 at 12:40 pmCan I quote you?
Terrorists love to see ignorant fools like Carlson dividing Americans. Americans calling each other terrorist sympathizers is exactly the kind of thing the real terrorists love to see. It could be argued that Fox News has done more to help terrorists than anyone else in America thanks to their daily rants against all things Democratic that do nothing but divide us.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:42 pmThis is our money. We need to be telling our representatives that we would rather spend the money on saving millions of lives by putting an end to global hunger. According to the Borgen project this amount is much less than we have spent in Iraq already, and that amount is a mere $19 billion. Wouldn’t you rather see your money go towards saving lives!
January 10th, 2007 at 12:43 pmGee, whoever thought that a bunch of American superpatriots, wearing their little American flag lapel pins and all, would be using the airwaves in a manner reminiscent of the Red Guard?
Because really, what do we do with “hostile enemies”? We attack them and kill them! Isn’t that the “dog whistle” to the Fox News Faithful, here? Is this even the first time that extremists on the right have advocated killing their Leftist “enemies”?
Enough! Fox News and Newscorp belong to the same parent company that’s the licensee of a large group of major market television stations. Time to pull their licenses.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:44 pmSen. Edward Kennedy Is A Patriot!
10th of January 2007
by Jay Randal
The American people demand that Iraq debacle ends, but the warmongering Bush Regime wants to escalate the conflict, so Iraq policy causes upheaval in the US.
Sen. Edward Kennedy has dared to oppose escalation of the misadventure in Iraq, so FOX News whores call him a traitor, but he is a patriot to oppose Iraq fiasco.
Those who do nothing to end the Iraq quagmire, in the Congress, are accomplices to war crimes perpetrated by President George W. Bush and VP Dick Cheney.
The US Constitution clearly proclaims the Legislative branch of the government has the power of the purse to end any foreign ventures by the Executive branch.
President Bush is the Commander in Chief of the US military, but NOT the dictatorial despot of our nation, so the Congress must cut off the funding for Iraq war.
We the people call upon the House and Senate members to end the Iraq mistake, and to bring the troops home ASAP, to inform Bush he has abused the presidency.
( Jay Randal, political activist and writer in Georgia, USA.)
January 10th, 2007 at 12:47 pmFinally the truth
January 10th, 2007 at 12:47 pmReally, really dumb. But not unexpected.
Mike Judge’s ‘Idiocracy’ (out on DVD) has a great Fox joke.
See it here.
Yeah, it’s a YouTube link.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:49 pmDemocrats should organize a national boycott of Fox Cable News until they apologize to Senator Kennedy. I happen to know Senator Kennedy – he’s my Senator – and he has more Patriotism in his little finger than that Bitch that demonized him.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:50 pmIf you don’t like it DON’T WATCH IT.
Comment by rant_on
Thanks, I don’t. Faux is blocked on my tv.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:50 pmHey #25 Big Papa DipSh!t, you put together a conservative hit list then say
“their hate-filled Karma ” – What a complete hypocrite you are.
ROTFL
How do you spout that garbage and look in the mirror
ROTFL
January 10th, 2007 at 12:50 pmEd,
I already boycott Faux news, so it would change very little. It isn’t even a boycott, I just don’t watch them.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:52 pmKennedy is a scumbag. I would not hire him to clean my toilet much less vote for him.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:52 pmYou people are classic. These are the Democrats who voted for the war (before they decided maybe they shouldn’t have) then decide not to fund the war they voted for? Then they want to pull out, call it a loss and blame someone else for losing the war.
ROTFL
Ted is a drunken murderer and an enemy of America and freedom. Try and use your “Constitutional Right†to get a gun in his state. Funny thing is Ted’s car killed more people than my gun.
ROTFL
January 10th, 2007 at 12:55 pmMarie at 119
I certainly concur. Those on Fox “News” would do well to follow the words of a bumper sticker that is on my car and that should be heeded by everyone in this country, including those in the military and the government: “Freedom of Speech Means the Freedom to Disagree.”
January 10th, 2007 at 12:56 pmWhat else would we expect from FAUX NEWS, that broadcasts dircectly from the west wing of the White House?
January 10th, 2007 at 12:57 pmSimple. Just introduce a bill in Congress that strips Fox News Coipr of all of its broqadcast and cable licenses in the United States.
If they refuse to act responsibly, they should be trreated accordingly.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:59 pmFunny thing is Laura’s car killed more people than my gun.
ROTFL
Comment by Happy Guy — January 10, 2007 @ 12:55 pm
There, fixed your typo.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:03 pmFunny thing is Ted’s car killed more people than my gun.
Comment by Happy Guy
No big surprise there. Your “gun” hasn’t fired a shot in years.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:07 pm“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.â€
–Theodore Roosevelt
January 10th, 2007 at 1:08 pmGreat, now we can send Kennedy to a GTMO because he is an enemy combatant. Finally, we can torture him, and it’s totally legal…thanks to our new torture legislation.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:09 pmNote that the surge is timed to coincide with big oil companies landing 30-year contracts to extract as much Iraqi oil as possible.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:09 pmIraq and Afganistan Veterans of America (IAVA) gives Ted Kennedy a “B+” for his voting record supporting the troops. Dennis Hastert, evidently not deemed an enemy by FOX, gets a “D-”. And, Happy Guy, nobody voted “for the war.” Anyone who voted for the war authorization gave the president the go ahead if he went back to the UN for another resolution and came back every 60 days to update Congress on new evidence of threats to our security. Bush never did that. One more thing: Kennedy didn’t vote for the authorization anyway so get your facts straight.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:09 pmPlease use the correct spelling. It is Faux News, not Fox. Your cooperation is appreciated. Now, back to your regularly-scheduled comments board.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:14 pmHappy Gay,
Remember now,
ROTFL stands for
Really Out To F*cking Lunch
Keep using it; it describes you perfectly
January 10th, 2007 at 1:15 pmHappy Guy sez:
You know, Happy Guy, this whole ‘Dems voted for the war’ canard you keep spouting is seriously old.
First of all, Dems voted for the invasion based upon misleading intelligence reports…reports the administration knew full well were misleading, because they requested them that way.
Second, even if the Dems did know the real score in Iraq (which they didn’t, courtesy of this criminal administration), and voted to invade anyway, isn’t is conceivable that these same members of Congress could recognize the error of their ways, and act to curtail the daily death and destruction?
(By the way, it’s not a war…war was never declared.)
January 10th, 2007 at 1:16 pmShrill Right Wing Blonde Update: Gretchen Carlson…
Apparently Edward Kennedy is a hostile e…
January 10th, 2007 at 1:19 pmThey do like to strike at Ted Kennedy. The O’Brien team on CNN this morning gave him a small shot too. They were discussing the photo of Obama swimming, thus shirtless. Ohhs & ahhs all around, then one of them (Soledad, I think) suggested that maybe all members of Congress should appear shirtless. Miles said it was a bad idea; just think of Ted Kennedy, he said. I, on the other hand, was thinking of Denny Hastert.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:24 pmCrappy Spy #134
That’s no “hit-list”…
…that’s a Patriot Act guide to restoring American unity, humanity, and credibility through “accountability”…
…one must be “human” to be “hit”…
…protozoa don’t qualify…
…And I’m no hypocrite…
…I’d be the first to admit that your kind has seriously “stained” my Karma too…
January 10th, 2007 at 1:26 pm#142…ROTFLMAO!!!
January 10th, 2007 at 1:27 pmWow, hit a lot of nerves with one shot.
#141 – Just like a good little liberal. Change the topic when faced with a fact.
#142 – Whenever you have to make up a name to hide who you are I WIN. I got under your skin and I WON !!!!
#144 – I would love to see Ted in GITMO. But he weighs enough as it is. But if you do don’t forget to piss on his Koran
#148 – Your right – Ted Kennedy ROTFL (Really Out To F*cking Lunch) Thanks, I’ll use that. LOL
#149 – Old but true. And the truth hurts.
ROTFL – To All
January 10th, 2007 at 1:29 pm#145 – Got to wonder how many of these newly inserted 21,000+ troops will be “securing” the oil pipeline infrastructure…?
January 10th, 2007 at 1:31 pmIs it possible that Fox is out doing even the white house in frothing at the mouth?
I just dont understand how they could not feel stupid if they know anything about history and human nature. Then again they have proven time and time again they know nothing of history yet are great experts on the subject in their own minds.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:34 pmSimple. Just introduce a bill in Congress that strips Fox News Coipr of all of its broqadcast and cable licenses in the United States.
If they refuse to act responsibly, they should be trreated accordingly.
Comment by Hesiod
Censorship at it’s finest. If you don’t agree with the message, eliminate it.
Wait…
Isn’t that the same thing you are all against?
This is an FCC matter
Comment by Coronadoman
How so? What Broadcast rules have been broken?
January 10th, 2007 at 1:34 pmAnd it keeps going
#151 – So, you like freedom of speech but want to silence FOX news? Hypocrite! So what do you like? Al Jezera? You and Ted can have a beer watch that together, just don’t drive with him – ROTFL
#153 – Avoid again you hypocrite. Your Karma is like Ted Kennedy, stained everywhere. Admit it, I pointed out your hypocracy and just like the moon-bat mantra “Don’t admit, change the topic†– ROTFL
January 10th, 2007 at 1:36 pmHappy Guy sez:
WRONG, JACKASS Did you even bother to read my post?
What is the matter with you?
Can you respond and actually try to address the points I raised this time around? If not, don’t bother.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:37 pmWhy do I think “Poor mans Nancy Grace” when I look at this faux skank?
January 10th, 2007 at 1:41 pmIf anyone can tell me the stock symbol for the straw man factory where Delerious Boy buys his straw men from, I’ve got a couple of bucks to invest…
January 10th, 2007 at 1:41 pmHappy Gay is not here to argue or present a cogent argument. He is here to engage in his childlike need to be annoying. He’s like a toddler looking for attention. I always make at least one attempt to engage and a number of us have tried. I suggest we ignore Happy Gay.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:42 pm#51 PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC): Tortured logic? Maybe. ESL’s a bitch but do you refute my point about the impossibility of an actual conventional war on terror? If the Democrats attack and destroy that stupid meme (it’s not that difficult) Lil Bush is no longer a “war President” with war powers.
If the Dems would do that, we can win this country back and begin to make progress in this war-on-terror. Who knows, we might even regain some of our lost credibility internationally.
Rumsfeld protege? Goodness gracious me! Come on now. No need to be abusive.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:42 pmHow so? What Broadcast rules have been broken?
Comment by robert
You are right they have broken none… they are about one step away from it though… they are quite close to suggesting someone should take care of that enemy of the state Kennedy … and then that is just like what happened in Rwanda when the media was used to give lists of names of people that were enemies …and they suggenly showed up dead the next day… same sort of thing happened in Nazi Germany… is the right going to stop itself before going over that cliff? Some of the bloggers on the right have already gone over this cliff… is Fox next? They keep hovering around the edge…we will see.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:42 pmSimple. Just introduce a bill in Congress that strips Fox News Coipr of all of its broqadcast and cable licenses in the United States.
If they refuse to act responsibly, they should be trreated accordingly.
Comment by Hesiod
Censorship at it’s finest. If you don’t agree with the message, eliminate it.
Sounds about right. And accusing a sitting US SEnator of treason because he simply wants Congress to exercise its constitutional oversight responsibilities is libel, and unprotected speech.
So, yanks those licenses.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:45 pmObviously, Gretchen wants a promotion.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:46 pmwhy does fox even have a broadcast license ??
fox should be nuked !!!
Comment by outtasight
Because of this wonderful thing called the Constitution. Here’s a concept. If you don’t like it DON’T WATCH IT.
Comment by rant_on — January 10, 2007 @ 11:00 am
Rant_On is ingoring the concepts of screaming “Fire” in a crowded theater and “Your right to swing your arm ends when it hits my nose.”
Fox has been screaming “Fire” for 12 (at least) years, and they continuously assault truly patriotic Americans every day by forwarding the Evango-Christo-NeoCon-Republican agenda. Fox is a tool being used in the destruction of America and the world… And strangely, it’s not even owned by an American. What does it benefit Rupert Murdock to murder the American Democratic Republic? Sure Fox makes money (go figure!), but whose pocket is Murdock REALLY in??
January 10th, 2007 at 1:47 pmRupert Murdoch, Roger Ailes and that stupid blonde bimbo have every right to call Ted Kennedy a traitor for no good reason. They do not, however, have the right to do it from a cable news outlet to millions of people.
So, strip Fox of its broadcast licenses unless they reform thei irreponsible behavior. If those buffoons still want to shout and complain about Ted Kennedy or anybody else, thay can do it while standing on a milk carton in Central Park with the rest of the lunatics and mental patients.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:48 pmWhy do I think “Poor mans Nancy Grace†when I look at this faux skank?
Comment by Vance — January 10, 2007 @ 1:41 pm
I thought that Nancy Grace already was the poor man’s Nancy Grace. Would that make Ms. Carlson the homeless man’s Nancy Grace?
January 10th, 2007 at 1:52 pmRepublicans like fantasy (often involving underage boys or macho posturing to deter others from noticing the urine stains in their pants).
Democrats prefer to deal with reality.
Any questions?
You’ll have to exuse me. I need to do some macho posturing by shooting ducks that have had their wittle webbed feet nailed to the ground. Oh wait a sec…I’m not going to shoot a duck. That’s what everyone’s going to yell when I pick up the shotgun!
January 10th, 2007 at 1:55 pm“Sounds about right. And accusing a sitting US SEnator of treason because he simply wants Congress to exercise its constitutional oversight responsibilities is libel, and unprotected speech.
So, yanks those licenses.
Comment by Hesiod”
I though that libel ment that she was trying to state it as fact, not opinion. Commentators offer opinion. Journalists are supposed to handle the facts.
So, those that say that Bush is an enemy of the state and trying to establish a dictatorship should also be held accountable for libel? The sword swings both ways.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:00 pmBluedog49 #164
…of course you’re right…
…right wing Bushite home-schooled-fools have a limited vocabulary and even LESS critical thinking skills…
…think of our engaging inbred imbeciles like robert and Crappy Spy (aka Happy Guy)…
…like you would kids poking a stick into a dead snake…
…it’s practically the same thing…
sorry, (speaking for myself) I just couldn’t resist…
January 10th, 2007 at 2:06 pmWho cares? She’s a hottie!
January 10th, 2007 at 2:07 pmrobert sez:
It’s not libel if it’s true. There’s a wealth of corroborating evidence for the above statement.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:08 pmYou have to admit Robert, there is a big difference between say some anonymous person on a blog saying Bush is a traitor, and Katie Couric stating the same thing on her nightly news show.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:09 pmTed Kennedy and George Bush are public figures, so there will be no “libel” judgments either way.
The issue is that networks use public airwaves and natural monopoly cables to spread a political message. Networks are supposed to provide news information as a public service because we give them free access to the public air and do not enforce anti-trust legislation on their natural monopoly cables. I hope Democrats in congress look into this.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:09 pm[...] Go here to view clip. [...]
January 10th, 2007 at 2:09 pm…like you would kids poking a stick into a dead snake…Comment by big papa —
January 10th, 2007 at 2:11 pmOr perhaps sticking firecrackers up a froggy ass?
165 Abby
I apologize for my comment. I re-read your post. Initially, your first paragraph looked to me like a typical troll blaming the Democrats and I was in “troll-smashing” mode at the time.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:13 pmComment by robert — January 10, 2007 @ 2:00 pm
Robert, she’s on Fox NEWS, not Fox & Friends. She’s not supposed to offer opinion. This is what Bob Kohn was bitching about on Scarborough the other night, in his diatribe against NBC (he’s an O’Reilly flunky). Yeah, it works both ways.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:13 pmSo, what’s the problem? She hit the nail on the head. That’s why I watch Fox News!
January 10th, 2007 at 2:14 pm[...] Fox News Anchor Calls Ted Kennedy A ‘Hostile Enemy Right Here On The Home Front’ This morning on Fox News, anchor Gretchen Carlson called Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) a “hostile enemy” of the United States because he has demanded that Congress vote on whether to approve funding for escalation in Iraq. In an interview with White House counselor Dan Bartlett, Carlson compared Kennedy to insurgents and terrorists in Iraq, saying that Kennedy represented the same kind of force “right here on the home front.” Dan Bartlett disagreed, saying that the White House doesn’t “view Ted Kennedy as a hostile enemy” of the United States. Transcript: GRETCHEN CARLSON: You talk about the hostile enemy, obviously being Iraq, but hostile enemies right here on the home front. Yesterday Senator Ted Kennedy, proposing that any kind of a troop surge should mean there should be congressional approval of that. A lot of democrats not coming to his side on this. But obviously this is not going to be an easy sell on Capitol Hill, even if it’s not an easy sell to the American Public. BARTLETT: We don’t view Ted Kennedy as hostile enemy but we do view him to be an open and often critic of the war. He has been from the outset. I don’t think that’s anything new. Here’s where you can view the interview: Think Progress » Fox News Anchor Calls Ted Kennedy A ‘Hostile Enemy Right Here On The Home Front’ I am very proud of Dan Bartlett for his response. Gretchen sounds like a real professional reporter, doesn’t she? I hear Bill O’Reilly has been going nuts on his show and saying that NBC and MSNBC are partisan. I cannot imagine any reporter from NBC exhibiting such unprofessional and rather pathetic behavior. [...]
January 10th, 2007 at 2:16 pmbig papa,
1) My parents were not related before they got married.
2) Unlike you, I can type complete sentences.
3) I am not here to be a bomb thrower. I come here to actually discuss things.
4) Unlike some here, I do not advocate censoring those who have opinions different than my own.
Here is a critical thinking skills test for you: If the government can silence the voice that carries a message opposite of yours, who else can have their voice silenced?
January 10th, 2007 at 2:18 pmDebbie: “So, what’s the problem? She hit the nail on the head. That’s why I watch Fox News! ”
OK, as I said, the troops give Kennedy a B+ for his support. You watch FOX to hear that this guy who supports the troops is a “terrorist.” And, you’re happy as a little pig in slop. Congradulations! You’re a stupid a-hole and proud of it!
January 10th, 2007 at 2:23 pmRobert, she’s on Fox NEWS, not Fox & Friends. She’s not supposed to offer opinion. This is what Bob Kohn was bitching about on Scarborough the other night, in his diatribe against NBC (he’s an O’Reilly flunky). Yeah, it works both ways.
Comment by JaneESchneider
Jane, at 7:10 am, Fox News is Fox and Friends, A COMMENTARY show. Now, had she doe this as part of a NEWS broadcast, I would sing a different tune.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:25 pmAll congressional Democrats are cowards, Kennedy is just the drunken mouthpiece of these yellow bellies.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:26 pmThis is for the trolls that show up to defend this garbage:
Repeating Republican talking points and demonizing democrats is so intellectually shallow and deceptive it’s laughable.
For decades you bigoted, violent hypocrites have been on the wrong side of every humane and ethical movement on the planet: the civil rights movement, which finally brought about the beginning of the end of White Terror in the south, of lynchings, beatings, rapes, and burnings that took the lives of thousands, at least, of the ERA and reproductive rights for women, of the civil liberty battles of homosexuals, of social programs that help the sick and elderly etc etc etc. but suddenly when there’s a chance for a political one-upmanship you dive in and claim “moral superiority” over the only living Kennedy still in politics—- after groups and people sympathetic to post-Goldwater republican politics celebrated the deaths of MLK, JFK and RFK? GO AHEAD and defend these shameless bigots. Remember- the republican party openly adopted their “southern strategy” to use bigotry and hate as a rallying cry to gain political power. Google it before the library sends you home to your trailer. Check out “dixiecrats” while you’re at it. And save your typical republican answer of “well Congressman Byrd was in the KKK” horsesh1t too- because anyone educated about the topic knows that some people really do have a “crisis of conscience,” realize their mistakes, and work diligently to make amends. Byrd was celebrated for changing, and for being honest about his own bigotry. Isn’t it time that all Republicans took a page out of that book?
You keep crying about the anti-American Left, keep accusing your neighbors of treason because of their beliefs, condemn entire groups of people for disagreeing with you and I expect your kind of bigotry and this republican party to disappear just as completely as segregationists and seperate drinking fountains.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:26 pmRobert: “Here is a critical thinking skills test for you: If the government can silence the voice that carries a message opposite of yours, who else can have their voice silenced?”
How strange that you had no problems with “Free Speech Zones” during the last election. Can you use your vast critical thinking skills to explain that, Robert?
January 10th, 2007 at 2:27 pmRossy Williams: “All congressional Democrats are cowards, Kennedy is just the drunken mouthpiece of these yellow bellies.”
OK, Rossy, maybe you can explain why there are so many Democratic military veterans in congress and only a couple Republican veterans. Maybe you can explain why any list of “chickenhawks” is filled with republicans.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:30 pmRossy Williams, most of the military veterans don’t agree with you. http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,117439,00.html
January 10th, 2007 at 2:33 pmHow strange that you had no problems with “Free Speech Zones†during the last election. Can you use your vast critical thinking skills to explain that, Robert?
Comment by Bluedog49
Who said I didn’t have a problem with that? I was not commenting here at the time, so you do not know what I had a problem with.
I am opposed to censorship. Period. I was opposed to it when Al Gore and Tipper were pushing for censorship and I am opposed to it now.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:33 pmRobert: “Here is a critical thinking skills test for you: If the government can silence the voice that carries a message opposite of yours, who else can have their voice silenced?â€
Who said anything about silencing anyone? I suggested taking away their taxpayer-owned megaphone.
Like I said, if Rupert MUrdoch or Rger Ailes want to call Ted Kennedy a traito, they can stand on a milk crate in Central park and yell to tehir hearts content. Or, heck, they can eve start a blog.
But using taxpayer owned airwaves to do it? Nope. Sorry. They have no absolute right to do that.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:34 pmSo, what’s the problem? She hit the nail on the head. That’s why I watch Fox News!
Comment by Debbie
I admire your candor about your mental deficienies.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:36 pmrobert sez:
Um, did you actually watch the clip? From that big rotating graphic in the lower left corner that says ‘FOX News’ rather prominently, it’s easy to reach the conclusion that this is an actual news broadcast, no?
In short, just more evidence.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:36 pmIf “free speech” includes the right to broadcast libel on a cable network, then the Government owes me a cable network so I can call Roger Ailes Osama Bin Laden’s fat gay gimp in front of millions of viewers.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:39 pmRobert: “I am opposed to censorship. Period.”
Good. I assume, then, that you approve of Democrats’ efforts to learn exactly who visited the Whitehouse and how many times they visited. The people have a right to know who has been visiting the peoples’ house. I assume you disapprove of the extreme secrecy in which this administration has operated.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:39 pmAs a citizen, Carlson is free to say whatever she likes. As a network, Fox is free to say whatever it wants – particularly in cable, where those public interest obligation in exchange for the right to use the electromagnetic spectrum shooting through everyone’s house.
We are also free to oppose their lying, slandering, hatemongering ways, and should do so vigorously. This was sloppy of them, a real overstep, and we can’t be shy about it. Normally, Fox tries to keep a fig leaf of ‘fair and balanced’, but this was blatent – not even a tea leaf here.
Boycott Fox, boycott Disney.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:39 pmShe was 100% right. Teddy is an enemy of this country as are ALL democrats. Why do you think the Islamofacists were delighted the democrats squeaked by in the elections. We need to send them all to Gitmo and throw away the key. Thankfully that Fox exists to offset the extreme left communist other news stations which are the mouth piece for the US Communist Party (democrat party).
January 10th, 2007 at 2:41 pmShe is just blonde no brain.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:41 pmFox news dose not need Brain they just need comentator to read the script written by hate filled, warmongor, dose not believe in peace. the neo-cons.
Jane, at 7:10 am, Fox News is Fox and Friends, A COMMENTARY show. Now, had she doe this as part of a NEWS broadcast, I would sing a different tune.
Comment by robert — January 10, 2007 @ 2:25 pm
Sorry, Robert, all that I see is that the article says “Fox News” and the TV in the picture says “Fox News”. I’m not intimately familiar with the Fox schedule, but are you sure it’s “Fox and Friends”? (just asking :-D, not arguing.)
January 10th, 2007 at 2:42 pmAnyone notice how much Gretchen Carlson’s breath smells like Brit Hume’s ass?
January 10th, 2007 at 2:42 pmAs a network, Fox is free to say whatever it wants – particularly in cable, where those public interest obligation in exchange for the right to use the electromagnetic spectrum shooting through everyone’s house.
Not if they committ libel. Leave the fiction to Fox Entertainment. Ortherwise, pay the consequences.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:43 pmI understand Ted Kennedy and other politicians have their own sick agenda but it is sad to see how many people are willing to follow them because of their liberal belief.
Today it is no longer a Republican or Democrat issue – it is an issue of corruption, grid, and ungodly lifestyle! You will know of a man or woman by not what they say but what they do and through their lifestyle.
Sadly, today the America world once knew as the bright star of hope and prosperity is no longer exist because we forgot what it means to be an American! We forgot what is right and what is wrong, what is true and what is false, what is godly and what is ungodly! May God have mercy on all of us!
January 10th, 2007 at 2:44 pmShe was 100% right. Teddy is an enemy of this country as are ALL democrats. Why do you think the Islamofacists were delighted the democrats squeaked by in the elections. We need to send them all to Gitmo and throw away the key. Thankfully that Fox exists to offset the extreme left communist other news stations which are the mouth piece for the US Communist Party (democrat party).
Comment by Billy Bob
Hah! Hah! Great parody of a kunckle dragging rightwing diphit!
January 10th, 2007 at 2:44 pmI could do a better job in the senate than Ted Kennedy. And yes to everyone who says then do it, give me a million or two to run and I will. I think Kennedy purposefully goes against conservatives just because. He should rotting in jail for the murder of that girl, oh wait he is a kennedy so he gets away with everything.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:45 pmHearing Quasi-fascist Republicans demand their “freedom of speech” is rich.
Can bigots complain about how much everyone hates them?
Or can a school bully complain when the other kids fight back?
Or can an admin that’s never served in a war challenge the patriotism of those who have, just for disagreeing with them?
Unfortunately yes, yes, and almost everyday.
Kerry saved the life of a fallen American soldier and put his life on the line to defend the American way of life.
What the hell have you ever done?
January 10th, 2007 at 2:45 pmLOBO stammered forth:
She is just blonde no brain.
Fox news dose not need Brain they just need comentator to read the script written by hate filled, warmongor, dose not believe in peace. the neo-cons.
Comment by Lobo — January 10, 2007 @ 2:41 pm
Translation please. Or lay off the drugs before you post next time leftist.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:46 pmGood. I assume, then, that you approve of Democrats’ efforts to learn exactly who visited the Whitehouse and how many times they visited. The people have a right to know who has been visiting the peoples’ house. I assume you disapprove of the extreme secrecy in which this administration has operated.
Comment by Bluedog49
Yes, I do disapprove. And yes, the records should be released.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:50 pm#202,JaneESchneider
Yes, I am quite sure. I even looked at the Fox News website to make sure. Fox always has that little box in the corner.
Gretchen is the anchor of the Fox and Friends morning show. The actual “NEWS” Correspondent is Lauren Greene.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:54 pmThanks, Robert. I’m impressed because it’s not often I meet a conservative who is consistent in his beliefs.
Billy Bob, let me translate for you: The Fox bimbo is a blond without brains. Fox does not need blonds with brains. They simply need brainless blonds who can read their hate-filled, warmongering scripts.
There you go. I hope that helped.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:56 pmWhat the hell have you ever done?
Comment by Televangefrist
Who are you talking to????????
January 10th, 2007 at 2:56 pmSo, the lefties are proud of their show “The View” with Baba Wawas and that fat pig loud mouthed pervert rosie. What a HUGE contrast. Fox and Friends on its WORST day doesn’t come close to the blind hatred and low class talk coming from that show on its best day. And yes, Gretchen is the cohost of Fox and Friends and NOT a news anchor. But the truth somehow has never been ans issue for leftists.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:59 pmPoor Gretchen. Someone should have told her that “In an age of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act” (George Orwell).
January 10th, 2007 at 3:00 pmDo you suppose they agreed to play “good cop, bad cop” prior to the interview? It’s a classic Republican tactic to get a slur like this into the discourse, and then publically pretent to distance themselves from it.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:00 pmMy observation-
You’re the same end-of-the-world braying jackass that waited for Jesus on New Years 1999.
Ohhh we are no longer a “bright star of hope” are we?
Give me a break, this is the same attitude every 50-something generation has about “modern culture.”
Guess what? Thankfully you’re a dying breed that no one will listen to soon, because polls are showing that kids today don’t judge people based on race, sex or sexual preference.
You keep crowing about the end-of-the-innocense, meanwhile with each generation society becomes more tolerant of other lifestyles, more caring toward their sick, elderly, poor, and young, more humane about their handling of wars, more cooperative in terms of multiple nations working together to solve the world’s major diseases, and more charities than ever supporting and saving people all over the world (without strings, or bibles attached).
It’s sad that many people just get more and more pessimistic about the world, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:00 pmYesterday all America saw was what ole Teddy Boy is like when he cannot find the key to his liquor cabinet… As far as Gretchen Carlson is concerned, she does not speak for the entire FOX news team, But her own personal bias towards an outspoken Democrat like Ted Kennedy. personally I distrust Ted Kennedy, As most poilticians, I believe ALL if not most of our elected officials are only representing the good of their own party rather the good of the country. If we and the elected would recognize that we are all Americans first, before a mere party affiliation, Think about how much would get accomplished for the good of the poorest of mankind all the way to the wealthiest of people. Bias principles divide you and I and as we can see it has the power to divide and polarize an entire nation. Our shameful standing to world governments is emulated by the shame of our retired principles of standing together, working for one another than working for our personal gains. These elected officials we empower mock the very good and decency this very country was founded on. But it starts with you and I…
January 10th, 2007 at 3:01 pmI’ll answer televangefrist. I am a retired Army Officer who served in multiple wars (and things that were wars but the PC crowd preferred to call conflicts or other such nonesense). So now it is your turn tele…tell the truth though…maybe you can find someone to explain to you what truth is since leftists cannot seem to grasp that concept.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:01 pmComment by Billy Bob — January 10, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
You really go in for the generalizations, don’t you? Why on earth are you bringing up The View? I’m willing to bet that the majority of people here don’t watch The View at all. It’s just daytime gossip. You’re way the hell off base.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:04 pmWell, you see, it’s simple. You just can’t disagree with the president without being a traitor. That’s the word, that’s the message and that’s fascism.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:06 pmBluedog49,
As I said earlier, the sword swings both ways. If the Government can silence you then they can silence me and that is completely against what I, as am American, and as a member of the Armed Froces, represent.
I may not like what some of the people here say, but I LOVE that they have the right to say it!
Besides, If I am going to be an a$$hole, I want to be an a$$hole to everyone. That way I am not accused of discriminating.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:10 pmNot offbase at all Jane but I believe YOU are…where oh where is that celebrated tolerance on the left? Right, they only tolerate you if you agree.
And tele my friend, the young are not more tolerant they are more brainwashed by the left. They are faced with far left teachers, far left media, far left “idols” I gotta hand it to the left, their strategy has worked. Infiltrate schools and media, get on the bench to legislate since they cannot win elections or get their agenda passed constitutionally. Too bad we are on to you and it will end.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:13 pmBilly Bob-
So you compare Fox and Friends with “The View” bud?
Who watches either? Are you insane?
The View is 4-5 women with different “views” (or somethinglike that) prattling incessantly instead why don’t you compare it to the show it actually competes against at that timeslot- The Today Show? Oh because you’re being deceptive and trying to tie everything crappy with “liberal.”
And what “truth” are you talking about exactly Billy Bob? Do you do any of your own thinking? Because anyone who doesn’t listen to Limbaugh can easily recognize his prefab hate, canned comments, typical “kill liberal” BS and generally overblown, uninformed shitslinging.
All you trolls have is your hate. It drives your every thought and comment. Hate jews, hate blacks, hate mexicans, hate gays, etc etc etc
It’s really getting old and kind of creepy.
Don’t you ever worry about how much you have in common with NeoNazis?
I mean, really- that would bother me if I was a Republican. How do you explain away all the similarities to the KKK and neoNazis, you know with all the bigotry and fear-mongering?
Oh yeah
January 10th, 2007 at 3:14 pmYou can’t.
Thank you Gretchen! As with the Democratic party and the liberal press as a whole. The terrorist threw them a bone in the beginning by stating they would try to influence the American public opinion to turn it against the war in Iraq. The Democratic party and the liberal media has acted as an arm for the terrorist by undermining our president in a time of war and by extension our troops. I’m far from saying there is nothing to investigate as far as the conduct of the war but as in World War II the investigations and criticisms of our president should be after conflict is over. It has prolonged the war and caused the casulties of our troops. But all that matters to the Democratic party is regaining their power – no matter how many troops die – how many lies they tell. Well now they have power – God help us all!!!!!!
January 10th, 2007 at 3:14 pmwhy does fox even have a broadcast license ??
fox should be nuked !!!
Comment by outtasight — January 10, 2007 @ 10:49 am
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January 10th, 2007 at 3:16 pm#189 Televangefrist –Is the Repulicans were on the wrong side every time then why was Abraham Lincon, the first Republican president, know as the president who freed the slaves? The Southern Democrat pigs are the ones he freed them from.
Get off your high horse – ROTFL
January 10th, 2007 at 3:18 pmSteve = totally brainwashed
January 10th, 2007 at 3:19 pmFrom under what worm-infested woodwork do these people keep coming…people who have not the slightest clue about the political traditions they’re trashing? To dissent and propose alternate opinions to that of short-sighted, flag-waving pundits and an intellectually challenged president becomes heresy, treason, and giving comfort and aid to the enemy. It seems that the success of media outlets and shows which provide a forum for such people is a product of a sadly misinformed electorate which doesn’t deserve the political legacy left us by the founding fathers. More and more, I believe the British tabloid had it right when they published huge headlines after the 2004 election: “How can 56,000,000 people be so dumb?”
January 10th, 2007 at 3:20 pmPoor tele, complains about other people’s hatred in an angry hate-filled rant here. Notice he also failed to tell us what HE has ever done after I answered his question and returned it back to him. Let me guess you were a pot smoking hippy coward leftist…and you haven’t changed a bit. Love your leftist tolerance again…like I said you are tolerent ONLY if we agree with your perverted communist viewpoint.
Steve…excellent post. The biggest weapon the enemies of this country have ALWAYS had is the leftists.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:22 pmwhy does fox even have a broadcast license ??
fox should be nuked !!!
Comment by outtasight — January 10, 2007 @ 10:49 am
January 10th, 2007 at 3:23 pm=======================================
Yeah, right, Nuke ‘em all. ABC,NBC,CBS,CNN,PBS, New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, democRAT headquarters. Why stop with Fox?
You don’t need “guns” to be “hostile”… just examine the “mainstream media”. Besides, Teddy’s “weapon of choice” is his car. Notice the neo-leftist Democrats , lacking any basis in truth, begin their hostility with names like, “bigot” and “fascist”. Well, you’re not a bigot nor a fascist if what you say is true. The Democrats are America’s Henri Petain of Vichy, France, 1940
January 10th, 2007 at 3:24 pmFunny that Happy guy has to go back to Lincoln to find the one time the republicans were right. Hehe
Steve,
January 10th, 2007 at 3:24 pmput down the meth man you need to get your head clear. you too billy bob. all of you are way to into the supposed “culture war”. Talk about drinking Kool-aid.
hey tele, you claim you do not watch Fox news. How is it then that you feel qualified to utter a single comment? Typical leftist, spewing forth hatred on topics they are clueless about but are against just because it is on the right…you are never wrong when you are RIGHT tele baby.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:25 pmHappy Guy sez:
It’s a pretty eloquent testimony of how bad things have gotten for the Repubs when their shills have to reach all the way back to Lincoln for a positive example.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:25 pmposyunivy + John = Trolls
January 10th, 2007 at 3:27 pmYeah, right, Nuke ‘em all. ABC,NBC,CBS,CNN,PBS, New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, democRAT headquarters. Why stop with Fox?
Comment by poysunivy
While you are at it add NPR and Airhead America
January 10th, 2007 at 3:27 pmWow liberal media eh?
Never heard that before.
Get a new conspiracy. This old bullshit doesn’t fly anymore and your brand of nationalism drives countries to do their worst, not their best.
Liberal teachers, liberal media, liberal shmiberal- you want to know the truth- the WORLD is more liberal than you because your concept of conservatism and a republican world is generally repulsive to MOST Americans.
If Brian Williams went on tv every night to talk about how America was being invaded by brown people, or even if he said used the phrase “murdered babies” instead of “aborted pregnancies” the American public would reject him, and Brian, the writers and producers would get AXED because American society has accepted science, and rejects fanatacism.
Your entire political philosophy (and cultural criticism) your republican world view has been rejected by the American public, obviously, because as you would preach, the marketplace is always about supply and demand. And bud- no one with a lick of sense has any interest, or any demand for what the GOP is supplying.
And by the way- my liberal professors were brilliant, which was a big reason WHY they were liberal.
Get over it man. You’re pretending the Dems are a godless communist party just to maintain your hate. It’s a fantasy. Wake up.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:27 pm#225 – “God help us all!!!!!! ” Comment by Steve — January 10, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
God already helped us, Steve.
When Pres. Bush lied to us to distract from the war on Terror in Afghanistan and got us stuck in Iraq, you didn’t care one bit.
When Pres. Bush and the elected Republicans raised spending and reduced taxes and reduced Federal income, you didn’t care one bit.
When the elected Republican officials ushered in the era of entrenched corruption, you didn’t care one bit.
When the war in Iraq kept going and going and going with no end in sight and no exit strategy at all, you didn’t care one bit.
What it all boiled down to was that you didn’t care one bit.
Now the American people have woken up to the never ending lies by the President, the culture of corruption the Republican majority ensconced, the inability of the so-called “party of responsibility” to take responsibility for their actions, the largest deficit in history, the largest debt in history. . . .
Basically, God has given America the chance to change our downward spiral and bring us back to a nation that is responsible. Thank God for saving us from Pres. Bush and his destructive agenda!
January 10th, 2007 at 3:28 pmClose mikey but not close enough. The left has been AGAINST everything American but they have NEVER offered an alternative except to say they are against everything. Their alternative is to reduce the discussion to name calling and division…just as they are doing on this board. Can anyone tell me a single viable alternative offered by the left in the past 10 years or so? Anything other than being against everything? I didn’t think so.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:28 pmI love how these hypocrites scream about free speech but want to silence FOX. The make fun of Grechen on personal levels and pull the normal liberal crap.
If the stations are not broadcasting what they want to hear they should be shut down. The reason FOX does so well is because we finally have something other than BBC, Al Jezera and the rest of Liberal / Terrorist broadcasting has to give us.
We have the truth. Look at the ratings. People do not think like you do.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:29 pmWhen your an enemy of freedom and some one finally steps up and calls you out that person is always attacked, way to go Gretchen!!! Powerful libs have always gotten away with saying and doing what ever they want.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:30 pmwhere was Mr. Kennedy when Clinton shot missles into asprin factories in attempt to change the discussions about Monica!!!
(He was SILENT).. Libs greatest disire is that “WE” (USA) are liked in the world and since the President felt we would be safer if Saddam was no longer in the world he is now the most hated. get over it and kick out Kennedy and ALL his american hating lib. cronies with him.
Have any of you folks been there? And? Where do you get your Info? Do you you wear little red berets and Viva Che Shirts? And at what point to you become Adults? It is all reletive to your perspective and the truth means nothing, does it not? Bravado behind a computer is silly
January 10th, 2007 at 3:30 pmHappy guy said “The Southern Democrat pigs are the ones he freed them (slaves) from.”
And where are all those southern Dems now?
They’re all in the Republican party!
So much for Republican “honesty”. Now, be honest and ask yourself why they all left the Democratic party and joined the Republicans? Could it be that the Republican party embraced their racist agenda? Yes, it is.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:30 pmTelevangefrist = Major Troll
January 10th, 2007 at 3:31 pmNot offbase at all Jane but I believe YOU are…where oh where is that celebrated tolerance on the left? Right, they only tolerate you if you agree.
Comment by Billy Bob — January 10, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
What was intolerant about my answer? I didn’t say, “STFU you a**hole”, right? I asked why you brought up some TV show out of right field, and I corrected your mistake. Apparently you are an example of the celebrated intolerance on the right.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:31 pmthe repugs southern strategy was to appeal to those bigoted
democrats whose ancestors were pro-slavery and despised Lincoln.
the mainstream media is not liberal. Individuals here and there maybe
January 10th, 2007 at 3:32 pmliberal – but the bosses are ALL capitalistic republican pigs.
And being the bosses, they do have a way of making sure that what
is said by and large benefits the GOP.
STILL can’t answer the question tele????I guess it’s obvious why then isn’t it? And I am not pretending, the FACTS are that the left is Godless and amoral. If the dems were so good why have they been rejected so much. Next election cycle, America will wake up and realize the terrible mistake they made letting them squeak by a couple months ago. Now about that question.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:32 pmimmoral billy bob is attacking and killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people – then propping up American corperations so they can
January 10th, 2007 at 3:35 pmwallow in blood money – all the while proclaiming yourself “christian”
that is immoral you dolt!!
OMG greg, you have obviously never watched a network news or news other than Fox. They are so far left that TASS looks conservative for pete’s sake. Have you forgotten Danny Boy Blather and his forged documents during the 04 election? You need serious help if you cannot even realize how far left the media is.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:36 pmROTFL
The Dems voted for a bill to send troops to Iraq. They didn’t just do a show of hands. Your simple mind seems to miss a few facts here. First, there were specific reasons for voting for that bill, three to be specific:
1)WMD’s (none found)
2)The removal of Saddam Hussien(now dead)
3)Al-Queda/Iraq involvment(fabricated lie)
Now, as Ted said, since one of the criteria has been met, and the other two were outright lies, Bush’s reasoning for war are now mute. Mission Accomplished. Now I know your not familiar with the term “Sober Second Thought” but it’s something adults do, especially educated adults. And please don’t forget that the Bush White House fabricated the evidence presented to the Congress that led to the vote in the first place.
ROTFL
Ted is a drunken murderer and an enemy of America and freedom. Try and use your “Constitutional Right†to get a gun in his state. Funny thing is Ted’s car killed more people than my gun.
ROTFL
Ted is a drunken Murderer? Chappaquiddick is what your refering to right? Could you not come up with anything other than a 37 year old news story? That’s the best you can do? Nothing else. First off, according to the Police report and the Judge it was an ACCIDENT. Second… IT WAS 37 YEARS AGO. Move on.
As to owning a gun, what the do YOU need a gun for? To protect yourself from insurgency? To go hunting to feed your family? Oh no, you can’t have a gun, boo-hoo. Cry me a river. YOU DON”T NEED A GUN, You need an education, You need to eat, to find shelter, but you do not need a gun. Maybe, just maybe Ted Kennedy knows of what he speaks. He’s got to dead brothers with gaping bullet wounds in their heads. But hey, they had it coming didn’t they, they were soft on commies.
Mouth breathers talking politics always makes me laugh.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:38 pmBilly Bob Boy has conveniently forgotten that the best presidents in the last 70 years were Democrats and the most progress was made under a Democratic House and Congress.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:39 pmTed Kenedy is a comie from way back. He should be thrown out with all the other cut and runers. We need intelijent people runing the show, not a bunch of loosers! Fox news is the only soarce for good news anywhere. There integritty is flowless.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:41 pmBilly Bob sez:
Billy Bob, do us all a favor and look here, and then try to go on about how ‘Godly’ and ‘moral’ the Repukes are. Kthx.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:41 pm“the FACTS are that the left is Godless and amoral. ”
The facts are that there is no god and morality doesn’t come from some book written eons ago.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:41 pmTed Kennedy has long been an enemy of the US. Ask any soldier having served in Iraq their opinion of your dear Teddy. Teddy has never been a credit to this country either morally or legislatively. I do think that Gretchen used a poor choice of words as she is a reporter not a commentator. However, I do not disagree that Ted is hostile toward US interests. Unlike his brothers, Teddy has never demonstrated any courage and in fact is only famous for his lack of courage and moral standing. In a time when we are at war, being anti-your-president about everything, isn’t constructive, helpful or going to resolve the issues at hand. Leaving Iraq in defeat is not acceptable for our security which is what Teddy advocates and which just happens to be the same view our hostile enemies have. So, call a spade a spade. You roost with the chickens, you’re a chicken and Teddy is a hostile enemy.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:42 pmTerrorists are NOT innocent people greg you dolt. WAKE UP. Have you EVER been over there? Have you EVER been in combat? EVER read the koran to see what these folks are about? EVER been to an islamofacist country? EVER been in a mosque? Didn’t think so…just more leftist dribble without a shred of knowledge to back it up..it just FEELS good right? Now, murdering MILLIONS of babies is immoral…having homosexual sex or sex with the family pet is amoral…just believing in anything liberal is grossly amoral. Next time you want to spout off and attack, please educate yourself first about the topic. I’ll give you a couple years to get up to speed on FACTS concerning warfare, islam, and the Iraq War…HINT: you will get NO FACTS on any of these topics watching the leftist news….so knock off a few bongs and if it feels good do it…sheeesh
January 10th, 2007 at 3:43 pmWell Carl, it’s a good thing your not running the show!
January 10th, 2007 at 3:44 pmGood ol Franklin Rose boy enslaved the Eastern block to the U.S.S.R, of you all never talk about that do ya. Anger and hate ya all feed of each other.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:44 pmI love how these hypocrites scream about free speech but want to silence FOX. The make fun of Grechen on personal levels and pull the normal liberal crap.
And I bet you defended the Dixie Chicks, right?
ROTFL.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:44 pmTed Kennedy….hmmmm. Wasn’t he the guy that left a woman to drown in a car accident and did not report it for another six hours?
Yup…that is the moral authority and leadership that America needs……go Ted!
January 10th, 2007 at 3:46 pm#72
intelligently designed.
the zionists love symbols. look on the dollar bill the owl is on there which is the rothchilds sign. the pyramid on the dollar bill with the eye ‘watching over all’ one eye now. and who owns the money? the zionists. the paper bills is just a reciept. look at the israeli flag. their monuments. it’s all over the place. nazis love symbols also and one of them ‘kkk’ symbol is on the hill. alfred pike. which is also part of the bohemian grove. black society. don’t let anyone tell ya any different.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:46 pmGretchen Carlson’s correct on Ted Kennedy. He’s never been for troops even when I was in the military 35 years ago.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:47 pmIf the stations are not broadcasting what they want to hear they should be shut down.
No. I said they shouild be shut down if they don;t stop libelling people and lying. If they tell the truth, that’s fine.
The reason FOX does so well is because we finally have something other than BBC, Al Jezera and the rest of Liberal / Terrorist broadcasting has to give us.
And Fox News has been hemorraging viewers for the past year. I guess people are voting wioth their clickers. A few more episodes like this clownishness, and Fox will be lucky to get the Klan and the John Birch Society to watch.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:47 pmGodless and amoral?
Who are you to judge?
No I never served in the military. My dad was in Vietnam, but you probably won’t count that.
Who cares if you’re religious, or if I’m religious- that doesn’t make you moral, or ethical or capable of leading, or right, or just.
It’s just a label you can use to judge people, to look down on them. It’s a soapbox for you to stand on to feel taller, it says nothing about your character.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:47 pmYou’re obviously not an idiot, so I just don’t get it. Why would anyone continue to defend any of this? Why do you have such a stake in it and what if, gasp, rush and company are wrong and Dems aren’t evil morons?
What’s with this pathological need to demonize all Democrats? Godless communist terrorist loving anti-america liberals?
That doesn’t sound just a little bit, oh… insane?
If you can’t admit at least that much, then what’s the point? If we can’t even agree on basic facts (ie I’m not trying to destroy America with my thoughts) then we shouldn’t be talking.
Oh raoul…learn ENGLISH. The point is MOOT, not MUTE. And murder is ALWAYS an issue no matter how long ago it was. WOuld you feel that way if it were your daughter? What is it with the left that they can excuse away anything with time about themselves but never even a minor thing from the right?
And liberal press, please name ONE POSITIVE thing coming from the left. Let’s see, higher taxes…nope…welfare leeches…nope….cowardice in the face of enemies of our nation…nope….murdering babies…nope…border control…nope…
I see you couldn’t name anything either.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:48 pmbilly bob, we have to agree to disagree. The docs that Dan Rather used
January 10th, 2007 at 3:49 pmwere NEVER proven to be forged, just not proven to be genuine either.
But the rest of the right wing media focused on that rather than the
fact that Bush did not even serve as he was supposed to. Bush and his minions have never been able to prove that he served, and the
so called liberal media gives him a pass on it. I suppose you may be able to point at some examples of “liberal” bias – but I can show you many more examples of right wing media bias in the mainstream. This is how
this phoney war was sold. Bushco may be incompetent on many fronts – but lying and propaganda is not one of them.
We need intelijent people runing the show, not a bunch of loosers!…….There (Fox News’) integritty is flowless.
Comment by Carl Gordon — January 10, 2007 @ 3:41 pm
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I’m speechless.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:49 pmTerrorists are NOT innocent people greg you dolt.
Neither are axe-murdering, child rapists like you.
Oh wait, you say I have to PROVE you’re an axe-murdering child rapist? Since when? If I was President, I could just lock you up somewhere and call you one. What’re you gonna do about it? Call the ACLU?
LMAO!!
January 10th, 2007 at 3:49 pmFox is right again!! Teddy needs to just go away and take Jimmy Carter with him,how ‘cool’ would that be….
January 10th, 2007 at 3:49 pmThey really cycle through the female anchors on Fox.
Roger Ailes must be feeling randy lately.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:52 pmJeebus, the trolls are rabid again today.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:52 pmgee tele so you indignantly demand to know what others have done for their country in the military and you NEVER served. THAT is the kind of leftist hypocrisy I am talking about. And for your information, I am merely returning what YOU started attitude wise simply to illustrate the leftist viewpoint and you went for it…I wish I could get these results fishing at a lake.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:53 pmGretchen Carlson’s correct on Ted Kennedy. He’s never been for troops even when I was in the military 35 years ago.
Comment by Steve Whitfield
She said Kennedy was an enemy of the state. A Traitor. In league with the Iraqi insurgents, etc.
Not somebody who is “against the troops.”
And being in favor of withdrawing from Iraq, let alone opposing an ESCALATION in Iraq, is not “against our troops.” It’s against the policy of the President.
Now, you can certainly disagree with Kennedy about whether his opposition to the Preisdent’s Iraq policy is wise or not. But you can;t say he’s an “enemy of the state” or “against the troops,” becaue of his position on the issue.
That would be, well, lying. And it would be something a fascist asshole with no regard for common human decency or the rule of law would say in order to intimidate people into agreeing with him.
You aren’t a fascist asshole are you Steve?
January 10th, 2007 at 3:53 pmCarlson is right.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:53 pmTeddy’s wrong.
Simple, and direct.
gee tele so you indignantly demand to know what others have done for their country in the military and you NEVER served. THAT is the kind of leftist hypocrisy I am talking about. And for your information, I am merely returning what YOU started attitude wise simply to illustrate the leftist viewpoint and you went for it…I wish I could get these results fishing at a lake.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:53 pmgee tele so you indignantly demand to know what others have done for their country in the military and you NEVER served. THAT is the kind of leftist hypocrisy I am talking about. And for your information, I am merely returning what YOU started attitude wise simply to illustrate the leftist viewpoint and you went for it…I wish I could get these results fishing at a lake.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:54 pmRaoul Duke, Have you ever been to Darfar, Africa or The P.I or any oppressed country? What about Mexico? I guess not. You have never seen real oppresion have you? People will only have what they are willing to stand up for you and others of your like are fakers. You prey on peoples ignorance and spread false hate and disimformation. Got a college education? I bet you do.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:54 pmWhy are these folks at faux news allowed to you our air to pivot their garbage ?
January 10th, 2007 at 3:56 pmMy guess is Roger Ailes posted a link to this thread on some rightwing nutjob blog like Little Green Snotbubbles.
That would explain the 50 pt drop in average IQ of the posters over the past couple hours.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:56 pmCarlson is right.
Teddy’s wrong.
Simple, and direct.
Comment by Bithead
Erm. no. Carlson is a lying bimbo. And Kennedy may or may not be wrong. We won’t know until his strategy is tried in Iraq and fails as miserably as Bush’s has thus far.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:57 pmBilly Bob Boy has conveniently forgotten that the best presidents in the last 70 years were Democrats and the most progress was made under a Democratic House and Congress.
Comment by liberal press
I’m throwing the BS flag on this one.
Civil Rights Act of 1964 (88th Congress)
January 10th, 2007 at 3:58 pm36% of Democrats in Congress voted against it and only 20% of Republicans voted against it. Also of note, It was a Democrat controlled congress.
Ted Kennedy….hmmmm. Wasn’t he the guy that left a woman to drown in a car accident and did not report it for another six hours?
Yup…that is the moral authority and leadership that America needs……go Ted!
Comment by Bob Gulledge
You are wrong, dead wrong. It was 10 hours.
January 10th, 2007 at 3:59 pmAll these robotic liberal COWARDS are slamming Foxnews because they are the ONLY network that even comes close to the TRUTH on the news.
Ted the DRUNK Kennedy is about as much an enemy to America as Hitler or Hirohito was.
Why don’t you COWARDLY SPINELESS EMASCULATED liberals move to Canada.
America is the land of the BRAVE. That does not include liberal COWARDS.
Keep up the good work Gretchen.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:00 pmnice try hesiod but fatally flawed. Terrorists are NOT citizens and not subject to our Constitution (contrary to the left who believe everyone BUT American citizens fall under the COnstitution like terrorists and illegal aliens). Moreover, because they are NOT uniformed combatants serving a legitimate government, they are NOT protected by the Geneva Conventions either. Had you EVER been in combat you might have a clue what I am talking about. Alas, typical cowardly leftist, you never served in combat. See, in combat, anyone shooting at me or in some way directing ANY force my way and I am entitled…indeed, I am REQUIRED, to kill him before he kills me or my troops. See, nowhere in the annals of history was there ever a trial required before shooting an enemy on the battlefield. However, breaking the law, like say murdering someone as teddy did, NOW one is protected by due process. Get it now???? See any difference? Unfortunately, the leftists would rather we just sit around and sing kumbaya and try to understand why the satan worshippers hate us…all while more and more are being ruthlessly killed by them.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:01 pmThere is something about Ted Kennedy that really makes the rightwing froth at the mouth Jane, not really sure what. I mean he is one senator out of 100. He represents one of the smallest states in the union, and is a bit left to the more moderate democrats in the party. I think it is the huge smear campaign launched by the right to make Kennedy a monster. Look at how the death of one woman in a car accident is of extreme importance, but the deaths of 3000+ US soldiers, and an unknown number of Iraqis anywhere from 40,000 to 600,000 means nothing.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:01 pmI am a retired Army Officer who served in multiple wars (and things that were wars but the PC crowd preferred to call conflicts or other such nonesense). So now it is your turn tele…tell the truth though…maybe you can find someone to explain to you what truth is since leftists cannot seem to grasp that concept.
Comment by Billy Bob
In close proiximtity to a few too many concussion grenades, eh Billy Bob? That would explain things.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:01 pmTed Kennedy….hmmmm. Wasn’t he the guy that left a woman to drown in a car accident and did not report it for another six hours?
Yup…that is the moral authority and leadership that America needs……go Ted!
Comment by Bob Gulledge
You are wrong, dead wrong. It was 10 hours.
Comment by robert
And that makes Kennedy an “enemy of the state” does it, Booby? If that’s the case, Laura “I killed my ex-boyfriend in a T-Bone collision” Bush should be in GITMO.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:03 pmIt’s sooo funny you Libs can dish it out,but you sure can’t take it…Good for Fox !! I wish Teddy would just go away and take Jimmy Carter with him..how sweet it would be..
January 10th, 2007 at 4:03 pmpoor hesiod, tries to deflect his cowardice by insulting a veteran…but he, as all leftists claim to be, is so much FOR the troops. Can you explain this hesiod????..I didn’t think so. Hey wait a minute…is that you again teddy??? STILL on the sauce I see.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:05 pmHesiod…….Your silly…Very silly…Scary silly…………..
January 10th, 2007 at 4:05 pm#288,Comment by Hesiod
I just corrected the time.
For the record, I never said Kennedy was an enemy of the state.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:07 pmOh distract and divert Billy Bob – it’s the only argument you have.
Why discuss anything of substance when you can attack me personally and challenge my patriotism for not serving in the military.
Unfortunately for you, people can read what and why I mad the comment I did. I never attacked anyone’s patriotism, I challenged a right-winger who was challenging Kerry’s patriotism. My point being- if you’re going to challenge the patriotism of a guy that saved a fellow serviceman in the line of duty, you better have your own heroic story to tell.
You make that same “fishing” comment on election night?
You GOP’ers really need to take a course in “realizing when you’re getting your ass kicked.”
Your party, your philosophy, and your fanaticism were THROWN OUT. You lost.
Republican politics are a failed philosophy. Over and over we see what happens when they’re put into practice- deficit spending, trade imbalances, cronyism, corruption, the largest redistribution of wealth since the Gilded Age, the exploitation of 9/11 for political gain, 3000 American soldiers dead in a war of choice, Bridges to Nowhere, Horse Judges in charge of critical govt agencies, Cowboy diplomacy, attaching strings to humanitarian work in Africa, Iran Contra, Watergate, Southern Strategies, Segregationism, and science bashing.
Yeh you guys have a lot to be proud of.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:08 pmbilly bob – why are you so dense? I am not defending terrorist you dolt!
Iraq had NOTHING to do with the 911 attack idiot. And it is a fact that tens of thousands of innocent children have died so that a-holes like
you can thump their chest and proclaim their allegiance to their
ideology. And rake in the billions, let’s not forget that.
where is the son-of-bitch OBL? Suppose Kennedy is to blame for that too?
Not all Christians kill abortion doctors and not all Muslims detonate themselves. Kill those who would harm us, I have no problem with
January 10th, 2007 at 4:08 pmthat – but I am not so blind as to see that the vast majority of
Iraqis were not anti-American terrorist. Many now are insurgents, and
had the USA been invaded by say the Chinese, millions of us would be insurgents too.
BillyBob
I am a progressive/liberal who is both God-filled and moral. Your attack is a highly unfair generalization.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:08 pmThat would explain the 50 pt drop in average IQ of the posters over the past couple hours.
Comment by hesiod — January 10, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
Were you here yesterday? If not, check out yesterday’s thread with Ted Kennedy–it makes you wonder how any of them managed to even get online!
January 10th, 2007 at 4:11 pmTed Kennedy has been elected to the senate 8 times and has served his country for 45 years. That’s more years than all the Bush idiots combined.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:11 pmHi Democrat Soldier:
You should check your facts. Since the Bush taxcut revenues to the federal government are up almost 150 billion. Taxcuts create, especially on capital gains, movement of money which equals capital which equals investment which equals job creation which equals more taxpayers which equals more taxes flowing into the federal treasury. Works every time it is tried. These are facts that cannot be disputed. If the Congress was serious about eliminating the deficit and reducing poverty they would eliminate the taxes on capital gains and by doing this the economy would most likely double in size within 5 years if not sooner.
Unfortunately the Congress, Democrats and Republicans, have no vested interest in doing this since it would allow people to see there real worth. Have you ever asked why do we need a full time Congress in Washington. They are only interested in getting reelected – they retire after one term with about $50,000 per year in benefits and exempt themselves from social security but make us stay in the same failed system that they refuse to pay into. They make inpassioned speeches that make me want to throw up.
Congress is definitely the problem in this country – but we only have ourselves to blame since we reelect incumbents at a 98% clip every election.
So before you post what you hear from the media check facts , you may surprise yourself with what you find out about what both parties are telling us at times.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:12 pmBeing in favor of withdrawing from Iraq, let alone opposing an ESCALATION in Iraq, is not “against our troops.†It’s against the policy of the President. Comment by hesiod
Hmmm, let’s think about this. Our enemies want us to withdraw. Teddy wants us to withdraw. Our troops have spilled their blood and sacrficed their lives for to achieve a victory in this effort. Teddy doesn’t care how many American lives have been spent to succeed in Iraq, only that we should accept defeat and withdraw. The enemy wants us to accept defeat and withdraw. Teddy is here in the US. If we withdraw from Iraq, the terrorist will be here in the US. Trust me, if we don’t defeat them they will follow us home.
Sounds like to me, Teddy resides in the enemy cap and is pretty anti-American troops. When we have paid will lives and treasure in a war, to accept defeat is an insult to those who fought bravely. It is as if to say “Sorry kid, you wasted your life, we’re going home.” That pretty much sums up Teddy’s view of our troops.
Teddy is a hostile baffoon.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:13 pmCivil Rights Act of 1964 (88th Congress)
36% of Democrats in Congress voted against it and only 20% of Republicans voted against it. Also of note, It was a Democrat controlled congress.
Comment by robert
That was before all the rightwing democrats became Republicans, and the moderate/liberal Republicans were drummed out of the Republican party.
So — irrelevant.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:14 pmgreg nogins are you a reletive of hesiod?……..But if the Chinese could free the U.S.A. from you and others like you…Well…..Bring on the Mao suit…I would look good in green or is it red? What does Fidel wear???
January 10th, 2007 at 4:15 pmHmmm, let’s think about this. Our enemies want us to withdraw. Teddy wants us to withdraw. Our troops have spilled their blood and sacrficed their lives for to achieve a victory in this effort. Teddy doesn’t care how many American lives have been spent to succeed in Iraq, only that we should accept defeat and withdraw. The enemy wants us to accept defeat and withdraw. Teddy is here in the US. If we withdraw from Iraq, the terrorist will be here in the US. Trust me, if we don’t defeat them they will follow us home.
Sounds like to me, Teddy resides in the enemy cap and is pretty anti-American troops. When we have paid will lives and treasure in a war, to accept defeat is an insult to those who fought bravely. It is as if to say “Sorry kid, you wasted your life, we’re going home.†That pretty much sums up Teddy’s view of our troops.
Teddy is a hostile baffoon.
That means 75% of the American people are also :”with the terrorists,” because they want to withdraw too.
Why don’t you hole up in a bunker with an AK-47 and boxes of ammo to protect yourself from all the evil, treasonous hordes — M’kay wackojob?
January 10th, 2007 at 4:16 pmlol 223 the “liberal far left media” just happens to be owned by huge capitalistic conglomerates…yeah that’s left-leaning alright.
I once worked as a librarian in current periodicals in a rather left-leaning college and 80% of the “media” there was ultra right wing. They have the “media” market cornered. Turn on the radio much? AM FM it doesn’t matter – it’s all right wing religious clap trap sister-sleeping beastiality right wing values!
January 10th, 2007 at 4:17 pmexcept tim – we should not have been Iraq to begin with. Explain
January 10th, 2007 at 4:19 pmwhy we are there (not WMD, not tp spread freedom, not to “save”
the Iraqis, not because Iraq was involved in 911).
Therefore our kids are dying for NOTHING. Kennedy is doing what he
is supposed to do is representing the will of the people – and the VAST majority of Americans did NOT vote for more of this immoral occupation. You are in the minority, get over it.
Comment by Krazny — January 10, 2007 @ 4:01 pm
It is truly amazing how one, albeit tragic, incident is used to smear a man for nearly 40 years. I truly believe that these trolls prefer to be ignorant, because it must hurt their brains to try to learn something new. They’re not even worth responding to.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:19 pm[...] (VIDEO) Fox News anchor Gretchen Carlson compares Sen. Ted Kennedy to the terrorists and insurgents in Iraq, saying he represents the same force “on the home front.” — So much for fair and balanced. Surely bias as hell is what they are. She should of just said that Ted Kennedy was a member of Al Qaeda. I saw not to long ago Fox’s new logo … I think they’re calling it now the Hoax News Channelread more | digg story [...]
January 10th, 2007 at 4:19 pmKennedy is a an out of touch blow hard that hates Bush so much he can’t think beyond that. What message would it send to the rest of the world if the congress voted to stop funding? It’s in our (USA) interest to win in Iraq, not forfeit. Americans want troops coming home because we’re not winning and we’ve lost faith in the current strategy. Rumsfeld is finally gone, we should give it a listen and see if we believe it. Does everything have to be pre-empted with predictable, shallow, lame, divisive political spin?
January 10th, 2007 at 4:20 pmIs this a comedy site or what. PLC claims he can be progressive/liberal AND Christian…not possible if you agree with the left on abortion and homo marriage, to name but two incompatabilities with morals and Christianity (or ANY other religion for that matter besides satanism).
liberal press claims teddy has served his ountry for 45 years.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
teddy has only served his own fat self all these years.
and tele, my dear fishing buddy tele. where to begin. I answered you about kerry and his fraudulent medals..the ones he threw away and then didn’t…because he was for the war and then against it or whatever sequence it is today. The same one bad-mouthing the troops as most leftists do. I liked your list but the greates redistribution of wealth is ALWAYS from the left so that lazy people can be paid to do nothing at the expense of us who do work. No mention of the perpetual scandal under clinton. No mention of the waste of human flesh carter and his utterly failed presidency, no mention of cowardice toward the satan worshippers during leftist regimes, no mention of cold cash jefferson or the endless string of leftists that are corrupt (insert entire dem membership list here). You are really one funny guy. I love these comedy sites.
HAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
January 10th, 2007 at 4:20 pmGnite folks.
GOP politics may represent everything bigoted, selfish and disgusting in this world, but I will continue to fight for Billy Bob’s right to be euthanized- with or without his consent.
Oh and Scarborough, Matthews, Tucker, and Lou Dobbs just called from the Liberal Media HQ with a message “The takeover is complete.”
January 10th, 2007 at 4:20 pmOutstanding comment and guts; to tell it like it is. FOX IS FIRST!!!!
Highest regards, George Haas, Past Commander, Jewish War Veterans, Post 580, New Orleans, LA
January 10th, 2007 at 4:21 pmall media has its own opinions…fox is more conservative; cnn is more liberal. so it makes sense that fox would slip their opinion into a story…cnn does it with republicans all the time. and kennedy is a hostile enemy to the U.S. He has shown time and time again that he is not willing to do the necessary means to succeed in Iraq.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:21 pmUmmm…Steve.
Nope.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:22 pmBilly Bob, is there anything good coming from right? Useless Spending? Tax cuts for people who do not need them? no organization for making a community better? Yes the right has all the bells and whistles, the free market?………………………Please.
Your tired rambling about being a verteran is nothing meaningful other than that you’re delusional. Tell me something about bush when he talks about islamo facism, and then cheney gets summoned by who else but one of the leaders of saudi arabia…….That’s the whole point about being against the war in Iraq. That whole contradiction to what the republican party stands for. Fighting terrorism, remember? When all the war is doing is funding people like exxon, halliburton, boeing, and other companies making money off of death. Go back to your hell hole, you paid troll.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:22 pmI believe Fidel wears a hospital gown currently.
Tim,
your statements echo those used in vietnam to justify escalation and continued US military presence in the region. The idea of well we lost 3000 already, but if we pull out now then we damage the memory of those 3000. Nevermind, that we lose another 3000, or 6000, or 20,000. Frankly Bush was warned that deposing Saddam could bring Iraq closer to Iran, and the continued presence of American troops only serves as targets, and to prop up a government, that much like the south vietnamese government will fail as soon as the US leaves. We as a country may have liberated the Iraqis, but the Iraqis don’t appear to want to be liberated.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:23 pmSo — irrelevant.
Comment by hesiod
1) Republicans do not have to reach back to the 16th President to find examples of social justice they hae championed.
2)It is a lot more relevant than Ted or Laura having a vehicle “accident”.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:23 pmPremptive Jesus……….Hey Noggins/Hesoid/Libreal press ….Can you add Premptive Jesus to the list…I want to make sure when they come (as you said they would, the Chinese :) Have you guys thought about some anger management to help….I thought the good guys won? Can’t we all just get along :)
January 10th, 2007 at 4:26 pmpoor nihilist, I see you are just demonstrating more of your pro-military, pro- USA, tolerant behavior that the left brags about so much. LEFTIST LOSER.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I love these commie sites, so hillarious and utterly devoid of facts or intelligence…like network news
January 10th, 2007 at 4:27 pmTeddy is a weenie, and one of the few people I ever disliked saying I protected as a member of the military. What were his c-ordinates again?
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January 10th, 2007 at 4:27 pm257 have you ever read the Bible?! It’s pornography …God specifically tells people to commit genocide and even sets the example himself. Good thing most Christians don’t take it all literally, especially the part about not touching pig skin else you dumb bastards would be protesting good ol’ American Football every Sunday. Try reading it you hilljack sister-sleeping beastiality boy. Republican morales = hiding your gay page lovers at the sermon while taking all the old people’s money. Deer-f#kker
January 10th, 2007 at 4:28 pmHesiod,
What poll do you get your figues from that say 75% of Americans want to withdraw from Iraq? I don’t think that poll exists. 75% may disagree about how the war is being fought or unhappy with the situation or believe it is time to change our plan but that does not equate to withdraw. I do not want to engage in silly name calling and personal attacks either. I never said anything about evil treasonous hordes. In fact, I don’t believe you have that many like minded people in your group to be considered a “horde.”
By the way, I wouldn’t have a AK-47. I much prefer long range shooting with my Weatherby Accumark .270 Magnum. One shot, one kill.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:28 pm1) Republicans do not have to reach back to the 16th President to find examples of social justice they hae championed.
2)It is a lot more relevant than Ted or Laura having a vehicle “accidentâ€.
Comment by robert
I guess you’re right. So, based upon your logic, Matt Millen can claim he won the Superbowl with the Detroit Lions because they did it in 1957.
Sorry, but citing the good ole days when the Republicans were full of midwestern and northeastern liberals and moderates, and the Democrats had racist pugs in it like Strom Thurmond (who actually switched to the GOP), doesn’t count.
Today’s GOP doesn’t get the credit for what great liberal Republicans like Mike Mansfield did in the 50’s and 60’s. Sorry.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:28 pmTed Kennedy, what a waste of skin. He can’t support our troops and I love how he lied about 36 million American go hungry every night less than a month ago. Gretchen Carlson said it like it is, that is why Fox News is Fair & Balanced.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:29 pm“hey tele, you claim you do not watch Fox news. How is it then that you feel qualified to utter a single comment?”
Yet Billy Boob claims to know what the View talks about!?!
Billy Boob watches The View!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good night Billy Boob. Don’t let Jesus know how much you hate liberals or you might not get to heaven.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:29 pmPremptive Jesus……….Hey Noggins/Hesoid/Libreal press ….Can you add Premptive Jesus to the list…I want to make sure when they come (as you said they would, the Chinese :) Have you guys thought about some anger management to help….I thought the good guys won? Can’t we all just get along :)
I have a better idea, timmer. Why don’t you wack off while watching your VHS copy of Red Dawn for the 715th time instead?
January 10th, 2007 at 4:30 pmKennedy has been elected to the Senate by the people of Massachusetts 8 times, 6 of them after Chappaquiddick. He is for protecting the environment, supports the minimum wage, homeland security, equal rights, and health care for all. That’s hardly being “out of touch” unless you hate everything America stands for.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:30 pmTolerance for Satan worshippers? wtf?! I guess you fascist pig lovers don’t believe in freedom of religion. At least Satan told the truth I guess. He killed less people, according to the Bible. I’m no mathematician but I’m pretty sure 1
January 10th, 2007 at 4:30 pmSorry, Tim.
54% of the public wants us to withdraw from Iraq within 12 months or less.
http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm
12% want to “send more troops.”
TWELVE PERCENT!
January 10th, 2007 at 4:34 pm“Fox News is Fair & Balanced.”
Fox is to fair, as fidel is to communism………
January 10th, 2007 at 4:34 pmSen. Kennedy is an “enemy of the state,” and a murderer to boot. That has been patently clear for quite some time to anyone who loves freedom. During WWII – the last war where we actually won the war and the peace that followed – Sen. Kennedy and his ilk would have been tried and convicted for treason.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:34 pm[...] Prime Example of American Politics So, I’m fleeting around the Internet, something I’m prone to do between calls I handle with my clients and I stumbled across this blog post: Fox News Anchor Calls Ted Kennedy A ‘Hostile Enemy Right Here On The Home Front’. Now at first I was hesitant to use this post. Why? Because its a blog. Not an official new source. However unlike many blogs out there, this article has actual video feed of the comments in question. This made me more comfortable in pointing to the post and since the topic in question has twisted a knife in my side I felt I should take a moment to comment on it. [...]
January 10th, 2007 at 4:36 pmSen. Kennedy is an “enemy of the state,†and a murderer to boot. That has been patently clear for quite some time to anyone who loves freedom. During WWII – the last war where we actually won the war and the peace that followed – Sen. Kennedy and his ilk would have been tried and convicted for treason.
Comment by O’Golly
No. Back then you would have been fighting on the side of Germany.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:37 pmKrazny…. God is a Nihilist……..Televangefrist………JaneESchneider
Ya all speak in reletive terms….Live in a reletive world……and therfore…
Ya all are reletive…..Meaning????
But you do have your hate and disimformation and dogma to hold on to…
But you are so entertaining……Thank you :)
entertaining…So…you have value
January 10th, 2007 at 4:38 pmMaybe yall should send him to Gitmo. I can’t believe you guys, so if our opinion is wrong – we are terrorists. Give me a break – freakin idiots.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:40 pmLiberal Press: Do tell us what Kennedy knows about living on minimum wage, actually doing anything about homeland security (he had many more years in power than Bush before 9/11 and failed to see what was coming), being discriminated against, or being refused healthcare? He says things in his grandiose way, but it’s all theoretical to him. He’s richer than Bush, has been more sheltered than Bush, and has probably drank more than Bush. Kennedy and his ilk want to define what America should be; that liberal utopian view of what government can and should do for us has been discredited by 20th century history. Kennedy has become a pathetic figure. He’s obviously not an enemy of the state. He’s simply irrelevant.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:42 pmAll these lovers of stupidity.Man perhaps when you people who seek our demise and the replacement of the constitution with with sheria law with manditory deep knee bends to mecca six times a day then perhaps people like Kennedy and most of you who genuflect to”peace now” will be happy. More probobly when the nukes fall on us you’ll begin to cry” but I thought…” when in effect you dont.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:43 pmAsking about their broadcast license (in comments)? Heard of the 1st amendment lately? Kennedy is mostly harmful to those near him. Like, say, passengers in a car.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:44 pmHesoid…Come on lighten up….Now your insulting me…..:) Are you really an adult?…..Be nice…I like you…:)
January 10th, 2007 at 4:46 pm“the last war where we actually won the war and the peace that followed”
The great peace pinochet gave to argentinans? The great peace afghanistan had? The great peace the koreans had? The great peace the vietnemese had? The great peace Iraq and Iran had? The great peace the U.S. gave to the kurds with the weapons the U.S. gave to saddam. Ahhhh, peace is nice…………………..Not that the victory of WW2 was significant, nor am I saying war is not necessary. It’s your conviction the the U.S. is not corrupted, and is some kind of saint sent from god…….
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January 10th, 2007 at 4:47 pmyou do not need to be making minimum wage to know that it is BELOW poverty levels. You do not need to be without health care to know that hundred of thousands of Americans die to lack of it.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:47 pmBut you do need to have empathy to understand.
Selfish Republicans know no empathy.
The code words are in place. FOX puts the words hostile and Ted Kennedy out into the ether in a loosely connected manner. Bartlett comes in and puts these words together, “…Ted Kennedy as hostile enemy.” Don’t let the Whitehouse off the hook so easy here.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:48 pmWHITE HOUSE COUNSEL
Mr. President, along with most
every legal, political and military
expert on the subject of this War,
The People Have Spoken.
W
Really? Well you know what?
F*ck the experts.
F*ck the People
and f*ck you;
You’re fired.
(into speakerphone)
GET ME ANOTHER LAWYER!
January 10th, 2007 at 4:50 pmFrazier, at least Kennedy uses his priviledge and power to help America and Americans achieve our vision, unlike the Bushes and republicans.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:50 pm54% of the public wants us to withdraw from Iraq within 12 months or less.
and what percent of that 54% knows how to win a war? or even offers another strategy that gives a chance of succeeding?
January 10th, 2007 at 4:52 pmKrazny…. God is a Nihilist……..Televangefrist………JaneESchneider
Ya all speak in reletive terms….Live in a reletive world……and therfore…
Ya all are reletive…..Meaning????
But you do have your hate and disimformation and dogma to hold on to…
But you are so entertaining……Thank you :)
entertaining…So…you have value
Comment by Timmer — January 10, 2007 @ 4:38 pm
I’m sorry, do you mean “relative”, as in “related? And you’re saying this because…?
Excuse me, but I don’t believe that I have been spreading any “hate, discrimination and dogma”. I have pointed out the lack of open-mindedness and intelligence on the part of some bloggers here, but I have been nowhere near as hate-filled, discriminatory or dogmatic as 90% of the right-wing posts here.
So shove it. (Okay, that was rude, but you deserved it.)
January 10th, 2007 at 4:54 pmThe free market will solve everthing like magic, just like social darwinism. Eat the poor, if their so stupid not to organize and realize I exploit them…. They make products that I sell for 10 times as much as I pay them. Haha, oh my god. If people don’t like their jobs they should get a new one, come on………………
January 10th, 2007 at 4:54 pmWow, nothing brings out the butt-ugly, in-bred, un-educated, mis-informed dumbass Bush cultists like mentioning Ted Kennedy! He must still be doing something right. God bless him!
January 10th, 2007 at 4:54 pmOut of curiosity, who started the whole Muslims are out to get us, place us under Sharia law etc? was it Limbaugh? some other cockroach. I hear the meme repeated time and time again. I think the problem is, those who buy into it are so scared, and full of hate, it is easy. Or does it replace hate for blacks, or hate for gays? If you think the US is in danger of being placed under sharia law by muslims, then you have alot to learn not only about US history, but world history.
Timmer,
I ask you to show the hate in any post I have made. seen plenty of hate and dogma from both sides, the right far more then the left when it comes to Kennedy, but I don’t buy into the hate.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:55 pmI need this broad to tell me that teddy’s an enemy of the United States?
Please.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:56 pmAnger..Anger..Anger…..Where is the love? God is a Nihilist..Man you are the coolest dude………Ya got it all, do you not? Together…Man
Ya got it rollin….
January 10th, 2007 at 4:57 pm#347 – it is not a war – it is an occupation.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:58 pmMarx was idiot, he did’nt now what he was talkin’ about. Look worker’s own their fruits of their labor. Huh???? Britney spear’s get’s paid more for reason. That ass for hers is worth more.
January 10th, 2007 at 4:59 pm#284 Namvet
All these robotic liberal COWARDS are slamming Foxnews because they are the ONLY network that even comes close to the TRUTH on the news.
How would you know what the truth is? You watch Fox News. “Yup, I know’d they wuz tellin’ me the truth cuz they said so.” Go find out what the truth is and compare it to Fox. You’ll be surprised.
Ted the DRUNK Kennedy is about as much an enemy to America as Hitler or Hirohito was.
Bush, the coke-snortin’, alcoholic, spoiled-rich-kid, borderline-retarded deserter, is as big an enemy as we’ve ever had. He’s destroying our economy, putting us trillions of dollars in debt, much of it to China. He’s destroying our military, putting us in a position where we won’t be able to defend ourselves from a REAL enemy. He’s doing his utmost to destroy the environment and help make global warming irreversible. He’s granted himself the right to tap our phones, open our mail, and throw us into jail forever for no reason at all. He lies to you every damn day and you just keep lapping it up and coming back for more. How big a dope do you have to be to support that moron? Just how much more does he have to screw things up before you decide you just can’t kiss his ass any more?
Why don’t you COWARDLY SPINELESS EMASCULATED liberals move to Canada.
I would love for you to have the opportunity to come and call me that to my face. Then I’d pop your ugly little head like a pimple.
America is the land of the BRAVE. That does not include liberal COWARDS.
You’re thinking of the Bush administration, the biggest bunch of cowards this country’s ever seen. Chickenhawks, every one of them. Go ask your heroes in the White House why they wouldn’t serve when they had the chance.
January 10th, 2007 at 5:00 pmHalleluja for Gretchen Carlson. Too bad more of Fox News journalists are not as forthcoming and straightforward as she is.
January 10th, 2007 at 5:00 pmDon Henley must have had Gretchen in mind when he wrote of “bubbleheaded bleached blondes” in Dirty Laundry.
January 10th, 2007 at 5:05 pmYa feed the fish and they will bite………….:) LOL…..
Thank you all…You have restored my faith in the American people…..
Only in this country….we can call each other names,,,,Dis the pres on a regular basis and sometimes he deserves it
And no one will come to your door in the middle of the night……And none of you have experinced that….Ya all need to get out in the world more often…
Be safe
January 10th, 2007 at 5:06 pmGreg and Liberal Press, facts though show R’s are far more philanthropic than D’s. Truth is that empathy knows no political affiliation.
I do think you’re on to something though. That is: what’s the best set of policies to support those that need help? Teddy K think it’s big government. I disagree but, that’s a substantive issue that deserves honest debate, not name calling and broad brush insults.
January 10th, 2007 at 5:07 pmLook at me, I’ve come to troll. Exxon is the greatest thing ever. And I’m going to blabber about it, ya know… Look oil is necessary. Ok just because there’s a battery technology that can charge a car in under 10 minutes and gets 250 miles a charge means nuthin’. We need to attack Iraq. How else am I going to make a profit. You dimwit’ liberal cast off into hell, which you goin’ anyway since you don’t believe in jesus and smoke marijuana and have se x with monkeys. Stupid liberials!@!1!!@!@!!!
January 10th, 2007 at 5:09 pm#357 – agree.
Cheney, Bush, Rove ALL of these guys supported the war in
January 10th, 2007 at 5:09 pmVietnam – yet managed to not serve. (much like many of the trolls that
post here) Yet have no problem sending our kids now.
ChickenHawks 4sure.
man this country’s gonna be facing a civil war soon…but maybe not….because just like terrorism, liberalism is an ideolgy that cant be targeted.
January 10th, 2007 at 5:12 pmComment by Timmer — January 10, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
So, “ya all” have just been having ‘fun’ with us?
January 10th, 2007 at 5:13 pmThank you Gretchen ,,if yoiu were a guy I would say you have a pair,,something the Bush admin has seeemed to have lost.
January 10th, 2007 at 5:13 pmPLC claims he can be progressive/liberal AND Christian…not possible if you agree with the left on abortion and homo marriage, to name but two incompatabilities with morals and Christianity (or ANY other religion for that matter besides satanism).Comment by Billy Bob
My pastor and my God disagree with you and since you are neither, then your labels of what I am or am not and how I put my faith into action are irrelevant . That is precisely why there must be a separation of church and state.
January 10th, 2007 at 5:15 pmYou dimwit’ liberal cast off into hell, which you goin’ anyway since you don’t believe in jesus and smoke marijuana and have se x with monkeys. Stupid liberials!@!1!!@!@!!!
Comment by Exxon Executive — January 10, 2007 @ 5:09 pm
I completely deny ever having “se x with monkeys.” :-)
January 10th, 2007 at 5:16 pmI think TP should put up a post about Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, and Jimmy Carter. Then all the right wingers can have their hate fest, and the rest of us can move on to discussing actual topics, instead of hearing about car crashes, weak presidents, or closet lesbians.
January 10th, 2007 at 5:17 pmThe US is headed for some sort of resolution, potentially a civil war, between left and right – and primarily because the right wing is no longer capable to accepting people who tink otherwise. There is no dialogue anymore, just seething contempt and resentment. It won’t end well.
January 10th, 2007 at 5:17 pmI agree with Grdtchen Carlson 100 per cent. Finally, a journalist who calls a traitor for what he is.
January 10th, 2007 at 5:17 pmTed Kennedy characterizes Iraq as “George Bush’s Vietnam”, and Ted is one of a handful of men in Congress who actually voted in support of Vietnam war funding. He probably voted for the Tonkin Gulf Resolution that led to the escalation of the Vietnam War, so he has his little part in 58,000 dead soldiers along with 300,000+ casualites, more than half of which were serious. I wonder if that 80 pound sclerotic liver Ted Kennedy is carrying around is simply his brain fallen into his chest (neither of them working very well anymore). Liberal use of the words “progress” and “progressive” is nothing more or less than a deprecation of them. Progressive equals liberal, equal immature childishness and thinking. You tell’em Gretchen. Just keep speaking the truth about worn out of lushes.
Bob
January 10th, 2007 at 5:18 pmI think she was describing Ted Kennedy as a hostile enemy of the Bush administration, not of the U.S. If that is the case, she is accurate.
January 10th, 2007 at 5:18 pmHEllo!!! I am the irony of left and right arguments. I’ve come here to point out you are all claiming the same things on both sides, which is ironic and contradicts all of your arguments, useless arguments to be exact. You demopublicans……..
January 10th, 2007 at 5:25 pm54% of the public wants us to withdraw from Iraq within 12 months or less. by Hesiod
That is a little more realistic and far from the vast majority you quoted. I would expect given the polling question that would be close to accurate as far as opionions go. However, sound millitary decisions cannot be made and should never be based on any kind of opinion poll. Debating the reasons for or against this war seems like worrying about so much water over the dam. That is all past and our problem to be dealt with is what we do from here. To fail in Iraq would be disatrous for our country and out security. This is not Vietnam where the Vietnamese will just play among themselves when we leave. These people are out to kill you wherever you are and will feel empowered to attack us at home if we leave having failed. The Iranians are seeking to dominate Iraq and expand their radical brand of Islam and terrorism if we withdraw. If Iran is allowed to dominate that region, the region will erupt into much broader problem. Leaving now in defeat would only serve as a terrorist recruiters dream come true and would increase terrorism against us not reduce it. The object of our effort at this point is to defeat our enemies and leave behind a moderate stable country. Hopefully, having a moderate stable government in Iraq will help moderate the region over time. However, these are very long time objectives. This Islamic terrorist radicalism was in the making for hundreds of years. Expecting us to be able to change it completely in 3 years is unrealistic to say the least. However, it must be done all the same. We didn’t do this in Afghanistan after that war. We just packed up and left and the result was a failed radical state that ended up with 3,000 American civilians dead. If we bug out of Iraq now, you will get the same result but prbably on a much larger scale.
This is why geo-politics cannot be done through opinion polls. Some struggles are long and enduring and the still right thing to do even when public opinion seems to falter. During the American Revolution, the country was evenly divided over that war too and a lot of colonists bailed out when the war got tough. Still, that didn’t mean the fight was not worth fighting and I am glad our leaders pushed on.
Like it our not, Iraq is the battle ground for the future of our world. We can either turn the tide against radical Islamic terrorism here and now or we can choose to accept the murder of thousands of innocent lives in future terrorist attacks as these radicals seek to form their caliphate and kill the infidel zionists, which in their world is us. Withdrawing from Iraq now is only to put your head in the sand and hope for the best. Like leaping from an airplane, to quarrel over whether we jumped out or got pushed out is not relavent while we are speeding toward a sudden stop at 32′ per second squared. The top priority is making a safe landing. You can debate the rest when your are securely on the ground. Let’s stop talking about withdrawing and surging and stalk talking about winning. That is all that matters right now.
January 10th, 2007 at 5:25 pm336 posts over a little slam TO Teddy..wish there had been this kind of outrage when ole Sandy Berger stole top secret papers..kinda hard to believe!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 10th, 2007 at 5:29 pmLet’s look at it this way maybe the bubbleheaded bleachblonde (apologies to non-loon women of that hair color) was paid to try to draw the Repug commentator going along with her absurd remark in order to expose him as an American-hating far-righter. Maybe the BHBB was actually being paid at that moment to disgrace the Repub commentator and she was working on behalf of American values instead of against them, as it appears on face value.
Not.
The NeoConMen know full well that their audience doesn’t do “nuance,” or in fact, “reality,” for that matter, so the above scenario is unlikely in the extreme. I just present the scenario for its humor value.
To respond to Kennedy-haters: Ted had his car accident almost 40 years ago (to the knuckle-draggers: count the fingers on both hands, then pretend you have four sets of hands….that’s 40). Dumbya and his henchmen have destroyed a country that didn’t attack us, couldn’t attack us, wouldn’t attack us if it could, since it is clear it would have been incinerated, and yet loon after right-wing-nut loon went along willingly with the mass murder campaign. If we are to regain the rule of law in this country, those complicit with murder, rape, torture, and using the Constitution for toilet paper — in short, those supporting the demented decider — must be held to account for their crimes.
January 10th, 2007 at 5:32 pmA thought – is it possible that there are so many trolls (and ones we don’t often see) on this thread because Bartlett didn’t agree with the talking point Carlson made? Maybe this thread should have been focused on why Bartlett, a very partisan Republican, did not join the character assassination. Maybe the thread should have been focused on whether or not Kennedy is correct, even with his checkered past.
January 10th, 2007 at 5:32 pmComment by Joan — January 10, 2007 @ 5:29 pm
Joan, as you could see if you read all of the posts, the vast majority of those comments are tirades from the right AGAINST Ted Kennedy. If you look at one of yesterday’s threads regarding Kennedy, you’ll find much the same thing. Try reading before commenting.
January 10th, 2007 at 5:34 pmYou bone head-ed left wingers crack me up. No problem likening our troops to the Nazis, Soviets or the like…….. “Just leave Teddy alone……. you conservatives are MEAN !!!!!” “Leave Teddy alone” WHAAAAAAAAA !!!!!!
January 10th, 2007 at 5:41 pmI suppose you still think ABC, CBS, NBC & CNN are what we should all believe as “fair and balanced” When was the last time you saw conservatives have as much time on any of the “big 4″ as liberals get on FOX?
PLC, I really think it’s the fact that it’s Ted Kennedy. Someone suggested earlier that maybe there’s a link to TP from some right-wing site, that could be why we have to wade through this crap.
January 10th, 2007 at 5:43 pmI think their are only a few trolls on this thread but they are posting under many different names. They are all too much alike: “Joan”, “John”, “Sharon”, “ed”, “robert”, “Billy Bob”, etc.
January 10th, 2007 at 5:43 pmWhy are Kyle, Ogolly, Rossy, Joeslogic and Debbie, K.D., Mike et al, not in Iraq supporting their reichwing leader? ? ? ? ? As I have said there is NO excuse for these Bush computer warriors not to shut it down, lock their trailers, and go directly to their nearest recruiting office to join up to go to Iraq.
But NO, they all have an excuse. Well there are no more excuses allowed. We don’t even have the 20,000 + troops to send to Iraq. Recruiting levels are barely being met and then by allowing former criminals to enlist. What we need is an all volunteer army of supporters of Prezdent Bush.
So come on people, if your fascist government needs you, it’s time to go. Too old or physically handicapped, send your kids, if they are too old or infirmed, send your grandkids. The peanut gallery is full of well intentioned but ignorant RepubliCONs.
The people running this government are not Republicans, they are theocratic fascists and have no place in ruining America. My Mother’s family came here from Germany in 1745 for religious and economic freedoms. They fought in all the wars and supported America. You people allow George Bush to make quick work of destroying America and the freedoms of our Constitution many of our families have fought and supported for hundreds of years. Shame on these criminals and to think 3000+ of our brave troops have died for absolutely NO REASON OTHER THAN OIL.
January 10th, 2007 at 5:43 pm…and you can add “Cliff”
January 10th, 2007 at 5:46 pmBob: “Progressive equals liberal, equal immature childishness and thinking.”
George Washington: “As mankind becomes more liberal they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protection of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations in examples of justice and liberality.”
Bob, you’re expressing an interesting point of view. Not very American, but interesting.
January 10th, 2007 at 5:48 pmYes, 378, you’ve hit on something important: it’s that the Repub shill couldn’t/wouldn’t go along with the absurdity of Carlson’s comparison. He didn’t want to hurt his credibility by echoing her loon-acy. I think that’s what’s important: he felt he should attempt to communicate with more than just Americans who are bushbot jack-in-the-boxes who can be counted on to support in gratingly loud screeches all things fascist. Maybe Bartlett’s an actual American who has seen how far his party has descended in their mimicing of Adolf Hitler’s course and is concerned about pulling back from that brand of oblivion. One could hope.
Paid whores are a dime a dozen — just tune into ABCNBCCBSMSNBCFOXCNN for your proof. (On the other hand, if you want to get reality-based news and commentary delivered by intelligent humans, not drones with big hair, tune into “Democracy Now! on cable or satellite.
I just have to ask: why do the bushbots hate America SO fiercely?
January 10th, 2007 at 5:53 pmAll Gretchen pointed out is something that is widely known. If we should lose in Iraq it will be like in Viet Nam where the loss was the fault of Kennedy and his Liberal minions in the Democratic controlled congress. Thus she is correct in pointing out that Kennedy is the enemy, pure and simple.
January 10th, 2007 at 5:54 pmBARTLETT: We don’t view Ted Kennedy as hostile enemy but we do view him to be an open and often critic of the war. He has been from the outset. I don’t think that’s anything new.
Way to go, dan. Does ‘open and often’ critic of a war that even people on your own side routinely describe as disasterous then make kennedy the antithesis of an enemy (ie hero), and by logic make people who don’t agree with him the real enemy?
i know you didn’t mean it this way, danny boy, but way to stick up for the truth.
January 10th, 2007 at 5:54 pmBe thankful George is President, and not Ted. Will someone please take the “bluffprince” to Chappaquidick, put a millstone around his neck, and throw him in ?
January 10th, 2007 at 5:59 pmIt’s okay for Dick (Head) Durbin to liken American solders serving in Iraq with Nazis, but it’s not legitimate to justly belittle and berate a man like Ted Kennedy who has made a life out of being a near-insane alcoholic, a member of a family of substance abusers and serial adulterers (Camelot was a fun place), and someone who should still be investigated for his part in the death of Mary Jo Koppeckni. Just ask his liver (it wouldn’t vote for Ted). Ted Kennedy possesses no legitimacy. He voted for Bill Clinton, and according to Juanita Brodderick, Bill Clinton raped her. Ted Kennedy (and Bill Clinton) is a laughing-stock and representative of liberals and progressives in general. It was Joseph Stalin that inculcated the use of the words “progress” and “progressive”. Why is that not a surprise?
Bob
January 10th, 2007 at 6:02 pmall these new trolls with new names looks suspicious…like one or two trolls posting under new names.
January 10th, 2007 at 6:07 pm#376 joan
336 posts over a little slam TO Teddy..wish there had been this kind of outrage when ole Sandy Berger stole top secret papers..kinda hard to believe!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well golly Joan, if B.O. and Fox hadn’t sent all the little trolls over here today, there wouldn’t have been more than about 70 or so posts. How many of you are employed by Fox? Not that you’d admit it, anyway. It’s just a little conspicuous. And it’s just that Fox is really taking a pounding in the ratings and getting ripped on MSNBC. And your beloved Bill-O is going nutzoid over the criticism. I don’t blame you for lashing out, but don’t think we’re fooled by a sudden rush of about twenty brand new posters here. We know where you came from and we know why. Go back to your sinking ship.
January 10th, 2007 at 6:17 pmI absolutely agree with her. I find that liberals are more of a threat to me, my family and my country then al Qaeda will ever be. I thought after the Vietnam war that we could never have another generation that would actually ‘help’ the enemy again. But, Goddamit was I wrong. When a high ranking Colonel in the North Vietnamese Army said, that they were just hoping that the Peace Movement couldn’t hang on long enough for them to see victory I though this would never happen again. But yet, we now have another batch of leftist that would sell them soul in order to see America defeated. B.T.W. After we left Vietnam? The North went in and slaughtered 1.5 million South Vietnamese. Democrats have a lot of blood on there hands.After the November elections, al Quaeda came out and said that they helped the Democrats defeat the Republicans. And you see no shame in this do you?
January 10th, 2007 at 6:18 pmI support Bush 100% ……and if we are defeated it will lay directing on the bloody hands of the frecken traitorous Democrats.
Why is it okay for folks like George Clooney and Alec Baldwin, et al to refer to President Bush as a “liar”, “murderer”, and “terrorist” but not apparently appropriate to call Ted Kennedy a “hostile enemy” of the US? Just because he is a Democrat (with pretty filthy baggage, I might add) does that make him sancrosanct?
January 10th, 2007 at 6:19 pmToday’s GOP doesn’t get the credit for what great liberal Republicans like Mike Mansfield did in the 50’s and 60’s. Sorry.
Comment by Hesiod
Mike Mansfield was, in fact, a Democrat. He was Senate Majority Leader from 1961 to 1977, during which time the Democrats held a majority in the Senate–the longest serving Majority Leader up to now. The only connection you can even attribute to him as a Republican is that after retiring from Congress, he was appointed by Ronald Reagan to be US Ambassador to Japan. I met Mike Mansfield during that time and have photos of us taken together at an Embassy Fourth of July Party.
January 10th, 2007 at 6:20 pmI support Bush 100% ……and if we are defeated it will lay directing on the bloody hands of the frecken traitorous Democrats.
Comment by Mike Anthony — January 10, 2007 @ 6:18 pm
There is the party of responsibility talking. Never mind the poor planning, the lies, the manipulation. Just blame the left. way to go. Don’t do any soul searching. it has to be the left after all.
January 10th, 2007 at 6:22 pm#391 liberal press
all these new trolls with new names looks suspicious…like one or two trolls posting under new names.
It’s the blogging equivalent of “astroturfing”. Fox is getting a little defensive. Somebody must be hitting a nerve.
January 10th, 2007 at 6:23 pmWow, Billy Bob has had way, way too much coffee. Step away from the ledge — well, on second thought, do us all a favor and spring forward as far and as fast as you can Billy — fly, Billy, Fly
January 10th, 2007 at 6:23 pmIn regards to Bush being the worse President in history I like to point out a few things.
January 10th, 2007 at 6:26 pmKennedy escaleted up Vietnam. Johnson eslcaleted it on a lie with the Gulf of Tonka. With the deaths of North Vietnamese, South Vietnamese Civilians, soldiers the total comes to near 2.5 million. American troops 55,000. When we retreated the North went in the South and slaughtered 1.3 million civilians. All because the Democrats were hijacked by the radical left wing anti-American nutcases. We are NOT THE ONE’S DOING THE KILLINGS IN IRAQ……….
We stay until the job is done ! PERIOD! You want to debate me…….e-mail me……
And you see no shame in this do you?
I support Bush 100% ……and if we are defeated it will lay directing on the bloody hands of the frecken traitorous Democrats.
Comment by Mike Anthony
And this is really all you care about; you supported this fubar nation building, and it blew up in your face, and you don’t want to be linked to “the next VietNam,” which you helped start with your craven support. Too bad, it’s already surpassed vietnam, and we’ll be paying the price for this for decades. Crawl back in your hole.
January 10th, 2007 at 6:28 pmGretchen was wrong. Ted Kennedy is not the enemy. The enemy is far worse than Ted Kennedy. Ted only killed one innocent girl, a long time ago. Apparently nobody’s interested in Mary Jo anymore, so Ted’s in the clear. After all, he’s royalty isn’t he?
No, he’s not qualified to hold the dull knife the enmey uses to behead the civilians they kidnap. Nor is he qualified to shoot the video of these murders and put them on the internet for the families of the vicitms to see. He might be qualified to take part in some of the gang rapes they use to force “infidels” to convert to their wonderful little cult. He just drives cars into lakes, he doesn’t load them with explosives and detonate them in the middle of markets and hotels with the goal of slaughtering as many inocent people as possible. He’s probably not capable of mangling a corpse, and then setting the limbs on fire and dragging them through the streets of a city. Ted has no respect for women, but even he doesn’t beat them if they speak out of turn or refuse to walk ten feet behind him.
No, Ted isn’t the enemy. The enemy is much, much worse. And you’d all better come up with some ideas for how to deal with them, because they aren’t through with us. Not by a long shot. I’m anxious to hear somebody, somewhere present clear, realistic ideas about how to deal with an enemy that is only human in the anatomic sense; an enemy that knows nothing about pity, remorse or guilt. An enemy that is spawned from a culture of death, and absolutely will not stop killing-EVER-until they dominate the world. This is their stated goal.
Those of you on the left love to talk about how much you care, and want peace and harmony among all mankind. I’m down with that 100%. Unfortunately the ones you have to convince to stop shooting and killing are sitting in some shit hole planning ways to kill you because you don’t worship like they do. Go find them, talk to them about peace and social justice. Then duck!
January 10th, 2007 at 6:28 pmFox News is just doing its job… as the brainwashing tool of Mr Murdock’s rich and powerfull friends…
January 10th, 2007 at 6:28 pmchimpeach..thanks for thinking I came from Fox news..wish I did..actually this is the first time I have ever posted anything anywhere..I just get so frustrated with the left that I had to speak out..please tell me how can you defend that man or Durbin or any of those nuy cases
January 10th, 2007 at 6:29 pmchimpeach..thanks for thinking I came from Fox news..wish I did..actually this is the first time I have ever posted anything anywhere..I just get so frustrated with the left that I had to speak out..please tell me how can you defend that man or Durbin or any of those nut cases.
January 10th, 2007 at 6:29 pmComment by Texas Annie — January 10, 2007 @ 6:19 pm
Just because he is a Democrat (with pretty filthy baggage, I might add) does that make him sancrosanct?
Comment by Texas Annie
Speaking in terms of public service, Bush isn’t even qualified to carry Kennedy’s bags.
January 10th, 2007 at 6:30 pmCan you feel the hate? It doesn’t matter which side of the political fence you stand. I read it everyday in the news, on the internet, it is everywhere. If we, as a people, would put in as much effort in working together as we do hating each other this world would be a different place, but such is the plight of man.
January 10th, 2007 at 6:31 pmBob: “It’s okay for Dick (Head) Durbin to liken American solders serving in Iraq with Nazis, but …”
Yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah. Bob, it’s clear to me that you are a FOX viewer. Only FOX viewers would be under the impression that Durbin made comparisons. Durbin was reading an account written by a member of the FBI. Durbin wasn’t comparing anything. He was reading a report which made the comparison. FOX lies in your face. FOX has no respect for you. And, you love it.
January 10th, 2007 at 6:32 pm#399 Mike Anthony
You forgot to mention Nixon. What did Nixon do? Took the war over into Cambodia. Kickstarted the Khmer Rouge. How many people did they kill?
It’s amazing that some people are so dense they still don’t get it. Even McNamara finally admitted it and he was in a better position to know than you. It was unwinnable. If we didn’t pull out of Vietnam, we’d still be fighting that war today.
January 10th, 2007 at 6:33 pmWhy is it okay for folks like George Clooney and Alec Baldwin, et al to refer to President Bush as a “liarâ€, “murdererâ€, and “terrorist†but not apparently appropriate to call Ted Kennedy a “hostile enemy†of the US? Just because he is a Democrat (with pretty filthy baggage, I might add) does that make him sancrosanct?
Comment by Texas Annie — January 10, 2007 @ 6:19 pm
Because a “News” program is supposed to give “just the facts”, not opinion. A citizen of this country can say whatever they like. Ms. Carlson can say the exact same thing to, say, someone in an elevator, and you wouldn’t hear a peep against it out of liberals. But, for instance, if you heard Brian Williams of NBC News state ON THE AIR that, oh, George Bush is the dumbest son of a bitch in the world, don’t you think that you’d get pretty upset?
January 10th, 2007 at 6:34 pmNo, he’s not qualified to hold the dull knife the enmey uses to behead the civilians they kidnap. Nor is he qualified to shoot the video of these murders and put them on the internet for the families of the vicitms to see. He might be qualified to take part in some of the gang rapes they use to force “infidels†to convert to their wonderful little cult. Dangerous Loonie
How many were beheaded by terrorists before we invaded? Too bad you can’t see how dangerously divorced from reality you really are. Perhaps someone should do an intervention, before you hurt yourself, or someone else. Your irrational hatred of muslims is a symptom.
January 10th, 2007 at 6:37 pm#404 Joan
I just get so frustrated with the left that I had to speak out..please tell me how can you defend that man or Durbin or any of those nut cases.
How can you defend Bush? Do you really like being lied to all the time? Do you admire his ‘intelligence’? Or do you just like that stupid smirk?
You must be getting paid for this. Most people have caught on to him by now.
January 10th, 2007 at 6:38 pmjust recently the FBI report that Durbin quoted was in the news again.
January 10th, 2007 at 6:40 pmDurbin was trying to shame the majority pointing out what we had apparently become. We are better than that and torture is not who we are.
Laura Bush killed her first boyfriend with her car. Why don’t these Bush culstists refer to her as a “murderer?”
January 10th, 2007 at 6:42 pmThat’s so funny,who would be paying me? I find it easy to defend President Bush,and thank God he is our President..and not Gore or Kerry..they are whimps.Why can’t I have a different opinon than you,why does that make me someone that is being payed to say it?? Is someone paying you???
January 10th, 2007 at 6:47 pmKennedy escaleted up Vietnam. Johnson eslcaleted it on a lie with the Gulf of Tonka. With the deaths of North Vietnamese, South Vietnamese Civilians, soldiers the total comes to near 2.5 million. American troops 55,000. When we retreated the North went in the South and slaughtered 1.3 million civilians. All because the Democrats were hijacked by the radical left wing anti-American nutcases.
where’s nixon on this list, moron? way to be intellectually honest with yourself!
January 10th, 2007 at 6:47 pmD.L: “Unfortunately the ones you have to convince to stop shooting and killing are sitting in some shit hole planning ways to kill you because you don’t worship like they do. Go find them, talk to them about peace and social justice. Then duck!”
Are you talking about Tim McVey? He’s been executed. That was on Clinton’s watch when people who committed acts of terror were captured, tried and convicted.
January 10th, 2007 at 6:47 pmcause they are hypocrites of the highest order.
January 10th, 2007 at 6:48 pm#242
Hey dumbass
January 10th, 2007 at 6:48 pmALQEDA DOSNT EXIST
WAG THE DOG
NO WAR FOR MONICA
Greg Nevins; squat lower while you read your bible-Mein Kampf.
January 10th, 2007 at 6:51 pmIsn’t it false advertising to call if Fox “news” given the fact that they have no credibility?
January 10th, 2007 at 6:52 pmGretchen is right on about the old drunk bastard.
January 10th, 2007 at 6:54 pmThe voters in the People’s Republic of Mass. should be ashamed of themselves for sending him and John Skerry to Washington. Don’t those people ever think about who is representing them?
No wonder my friend calls them Fux News, cuz that’s what they do, but good.
January 10th, 2007 at 6:55 pmI find it easy to defend President Bush,and thank God he is our President..and not Gore or Kerry..they are whimps
how dare those pussy liberal whimps go to vietnam when their nation called, when they could have so easily both done everything in their power to get into a national guard unit and completely avoid the possibility of fighting?
January 10th, 2007 at 6:57 pmSo barfly, let me get this straight, you believe that the crimes of these lunatics are in some way justified because we went after Saddam? And you call yourself an advocate for peace?
And who is killing the vast majority of inocent, peaceful Muslims in Iraq? Who is targeting Iraqi civilians with car bombs and suicide bombers? The terrorists are killing them by the thousands, and doing it in the name of Islam. If that’s not blasphemy I don’t know what is. Can you muster up the same anger for them as you do for me for asking for a simple plan of action from people like you? I notice that you didn’t answer my question. What is your plan to deal with them?
By the way, in my original post I never said anything about Muslims. I don’t think these people have any interest in religion at all. How could anyone who believes in God do those things to another human being? Sorry, I don’t buy it. I think they’re taking what is written in the Quran and twisiting it in order to use it as some kind of justification for using terror to achieve a political goal of world domination. If you read what they’ve stated in the past they’ve been very clear about that. The truth is that the vast majority of muslims in this world detest these criminals and everything they stand for. I don’t hate muslims. Nice try though.
January 10th, 2007 at 7:00 pmthe other networks have done much more harm than this. who cares what fox’s or gretchens opinion is. it would be nice if everyone remembered it’s “us” vs “them” and “them” are muslim extremists who believe israel and the west shouldn’t exist. if the people agreeing with “them” keep being so bold we should enhance our target packages and forget our morals. if you respect me i will respect you, if you cut my family members head off you you should buy a kevlar bowtie…i know that’s extreme but you all act like they or “them” care or play by rules. i dislike senator kennedy immensely but he is “us”…….
January 10th, 2007 at 7:01 pmThe voters in the People’s Republic of Mass. should be ashamed of themselves for sending him and John Skerry to Washington. Don’t those people ever think about who is representing them?
Comment by Glueman — January 10, 2007 @ 6:54 pm
Evidently the American citizens of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts have thought quite often about who is representing them, because they continue to reelect Senators Kennedy and Kerry time and time again. Do you have a problem with democracy?
January 10th, 2007 at 7:04 pmAnother youthful bimbo “news” professional who has no institutional memory and therefore not a clue. Unfortunately their ilk are bought and paid for by corporate America and out there “live & dangerous.” Viewer beware!
January 10th, 2007 at 7:04 pmLaura Bush killed her first boyfriend with her car. Why don’t these Bush culstists refer to her as a “murderer?â€
Comment by Bluedog49 — January 10, 2007 @ 6:42 pm
i’m not sure if laura swam off and left him there to die why she tried to figure out a story….oh, wait there is no water in midland tx.
January 10th, 2007 at 7:09 pmThe people of Massachusetts are among the most educated in the country. It’s no wonder they keep electing Ted Kennedy.
January 10th, 2007 at 7:10 pmI want to know how they understood anything Ted Kennedy said, We need a translator when he opens his mouth…Lay off of Gretchen, she’s got more balls than all of you bleeding heart liberals have…
January 10th, 2007 at 7:10 pmRight on Gretchen. State it like it is. We need more networks like Fox. Catie Curic made similar statements when she was with the Today Show, but that was ok becuse she played the liberal card. Ted Kennedy needs to retire. He is starting to sound like a broken record.
January 10th, 2007 at 7:12 pmRemember Mary Jo and Chapaquitic?
More people die every year from lightening strikes than die from terrorism (in this country). More people die from allergic reactions to eating peanuts than die from terrorism. On the other hand 2/3 of a MILLION people are dead in Iraq since dumbya the demented decider decided to launch his mass murder campaign on behalf of his oil buddies.
Some people on this forum would avoid peanuts but at the same time cheer on AWOL George as he multiplies the numbers of terrorists (people whose relatives he’s killed) by a thousand. Those people are braindead, pure and simple. They are empty shells with scooped out noggins impersonating humans. They would be laughable in the extreme if they weren’t so very dangerous to the Republic.
I’ll take my chances with the falafal stand owner from Baghdad — with his dull knife — who dreams of beheading me in my sleep because he “hates my freedom TM.”
World War III and gasoline prices over $10/gallon, if dumbya attacks Iran, THAT I’m afraid of and am actively trying to avert. The hollowed out husks, on the other hand, are cheering it on. Go figure. LOL.
January 10th, 2007 at 7:13 pmLay off of Gretchen, she’s got more balls than all of you bleeding heart liberals have…
balls?! how is doing something (granted, with a little more candor) that the rest of the republican party has been doing for YEARS require any balls? balls? are you serious? she’s not gutsy, not the least bit. she’s earning her paycheck at faux news by continuing to insist that anybody who does not support bush is not american. forgetting that a little thing called the first amendment exists. you’ve heard of that, haven’t you, republicans?
January 10th, 2007 at 7:15 pmBluedog49 sez:
Because that would require a little intellectual honesty.
January 10th, 2007 at 7:18 pmI am truly amazed at the lack of intelligence displayed here. A Fox news anchor merely asked a question with an opinion put it it (which EVERY news outlet does EVERY day) and people are saying that Fox anchors are full of hate and ready for death? That has to be the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard, not to mention the most hypocritical. Plus, Fox news has MUCH more credibility than any hate-filled blogger here, and it’s amazing that they would deny FOX its first amendment rights while exercising their own. Yes, Fox news has its slant on the news (once again just like EVERY other news network has EVERY day), but they DO put on opposing viewpoints…which the others routinely do not. Stick THAT in your cigar and smoke it! Only in America can people legally be this hypocritical or stupid. Finally, if you’ve bought into the image that one party is better than the other, you’re just kidding yourself, because as The WHO says “in with the new boss, same as the old boss…”
January 10th, 2007 at 7:28 pmThis country does not improve by electing ANYONE, it improves with every individual that works hard and treats others with respect and love. I hope some of these people posting these messages can figure that out…
youfreakinidiot That is a good name for you.
January 10th, 2007 at 7:32 pmBluedog49 sez:
Laura Bush killed her first boyfriend with her car. Why don’t these Bush culstists refer to her as a “murderer?â€
Because that would require a little intellectual honesty.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — January 10, 2007 @ 7:18 pm
you can’t be serious. she got into a car accident and he saved himself and didn’t report the wreck on the spot. if he doesn’t die trying to get that girl out of the car and if he doesn’t call the cops from the closest phone to that wreck than i got problems.
January 10th, 2007 at 7:38 pmI am truly amazed at the lack of intelligence displayed here. A Fox news anchor merely asked a question with an opinion put it it (which EVERY news outlet does EVERY day) and people are saying that Fox anchors are full of hate and ready for death?
okay, moron. you wanna talk about hypocrisy? ask yourself what your reaction would resemble if brian williams or any other anchor made even a passing allusion to bush being like hitler? or any other talking point that the right imagines the left living on.
the outrage here is from the fact that this woman is supposedly a news anchor. and unless you don’t know what that is, it’s defined pretty much inversely by the amount of personal opinion injected into the reporting you are doing.
it’s just the fact that fox is so in your face about their hatred of the first amendment and anybody that does not want to get down on their knees for the president…. that is, unless clinton is president.
January 10th, 2007 at 7:40 pmMore hate speech from liberal media. Big suprise. No constructive thoughts, comments or debate. Evidently my screen name refers to you. Enjoy.
January 10th, 2007 at 7:42 pmI don’t see Fox (or most of the networks for that matter) being hateful of the 1st amendment. I see people who want to tear other people down for theirs (aka, many of these posts) as being the biggest threat to the first amendment. I have no problem with anyone expressing their thoughts here or anywhere else in good ole USA, but I am just astonished by the hate and viciousness. Debate is great. Dissent is even cool, too. But hate needs to take a hike. Got it now?
January 10th, 2007 at 7:46 pmKennedy dove into the water several times to try to save his passenger and barely lived to tell about it. Laura was chit-chatting, sped through an intersection at 50mph ignoring a stop sign, and plowed into another vehicle. But it was Laura who was the responsible one. Typical republican BS.
January 10th, 2007 at 7:50 pmP.S. I want to add you freakin idiot refers to myself, too. We all do stupid stuff (yes ALL OF US), we all do idiotic stuff. I happen to believe in the whole “all men created equal” thing…you, me, Ted Kennedy, George Bush, etc…which means if I’m a freakin’ idiot, every one else can be too. Too many people forget that an get all self-righteous (right wing, left wing, middle wing…it don’t matter) and spout off stupid stuff like some of the posts here.
January 10th, 2007 at 7:52 pmKennedy dove into the water several times to try to save his passenger and barely lived to tell about it. Laura was chit-chatting, sped through an intersection at 50mph ignoring a stop sign, and plowed into another vehicle. But it was Laura who was the responsible one. Typical republican BS.
Comment by liberal press — January 10, 2007 @ 7:50
paste one source in here with that account of both incidents!!! you act like you were in the passenger seat at both wrecks. did ted report the wreck as soon as humanly possible? ask me to paste some sources!!!
January 10th, 2007 at 7:57 pm“ask me to paste some sources!!!”
Comment by mark graham — January 10, 2007 @ 7:57 pm
Ok, I’ll as you to paste some sources. (What a maroon.)
If you weren’t so young and stupid, well maybe just stupid, you would know the accounts of both incidents.
January 10th, 2007 at 8:00 pmOh that’s right. Hey guys…don’t you know that liberals know everything anything about all thing on any subject at any given moment? And god forbid if there challenged! That they have this somehow profound belief that they have all the answer and damn you for questioning there understanding on how things must be done accirding to their standards. Tolerance? Bullcrap……..you believe that no one should ever question you and that your answers are the final answers!
January 10th, 2007 at 8:03 pmMy god! yes I said god. Listen to yourselves the so called left with all their pandering to rights really shouts and name calls when one of their own gets blasted. I wish they would stand up for any american that this happens to them… ie Bush and the american people in foreign press and all those looney celebs talking shit. Jee really kind of one sided eh?
January 10th, 2007 at 8:06 pm#423-how dare those pussy liberal whimps go to vietnam when their nation called, when they could have so easily both done everything in their power to get into a national guard unit and completely avoid the possibility of fighting?
Kerry jumped out of war within four months. He cut his hand purposely and asked his commander for a purple heart referral. when his commander refused, Kerry wrote one himself. He was relieved of duty and returned to the states criticizing all of his “friends” in Vietnam.
ya Kerry’s not a whimp…
January 10th, 2007 at 8:07 pmWho has honorably served the U.S.? Kennedy and Kerry served active duty, unlike the Chickenhawks (Bush, Cheney, Limbaugh, Wolfowitz, O’Reilly, Hannity, etc) and most of the people who support the Bush regime and watch Fox “News”.
January 10th, 2007 at 8:12 pmAnd everyone knows that Bush immediately signed up to serve in Vietnam.
January 10th, 2007 at 8:12 pmliberal press, wikipedia says alittle of what you said but they also say this “Kennedy spent hours phoning a number of people to discuss the accident, including his lawyer and Kopechne’s parents, before discussing with police 10 hours after the accident.” laura had a drivers license. did ted? ted was also dumb enough to go try to get a someone to come back to help him get her out. did he think she had a scuba tank down there.
January 10th, 2007 at 8:13 pmAmazing that is has taken the media so long to publicly admit we have “hostile enemies” in our own government…Teddy ain’t John!
January 10th, 2007 at 8:15 pm. . . and the Patriots will kick Chargers butt this weekend on thier way to another Super Bowl!
January 10th, 2007 at 8:16 pmi do agree with #452!!!! Brady shoudve been a pro bowler!
January 10th, 2007 at 8:18 pmliberal press: relax alittle. you wouldn’t come off like you are doing now if you met someone in person and had a conversation with them. i’m 38 and if you did act like that towards me i would verbally demean you until you left or attacked me. in my mind both of those things would be acceptable outcomes….
January 10th, 2007 at 8:19 pmthe patriots better hope marty ball gets involved cause if marty leaves it up to l.t. the patriots will lose 27 to 17…
January 10th, 2007 at 8:23 pmF*** that bitch!!
January 10th, 2007 at 8:35 pmTim: sound millitary decisions cannot be made and should never be based on any kind of opinion poll.
This may well be true, but when the Commander-in-Chief feels it appropriate to ignore his Generals and the men on the ground (the ones who are actually there, doing what needs to be done) then we definately have problems.
The Iranians are seeking to dominate Iraq and expand their radical brand of Islam and terrorism if we withdraw. If Iran is allowed to dominate that region, the region will erupt into much broader problem. Leaving now in defeat would only serve as a terrorist recruiters dream come true and would increase terrorism against us not reduce it.
This only became an issue after Iraq was invaded. Before that there was no link between Al Qaeda and Iraq, Shiite Al Qaeda was not welcome in Saddam’s Sunni Iraq. By invading Iraq we not only opened the door for Al Qaeda but we made a lot of people less secure and turned them to the various militias.
I’d like to say that I did not support the war, I believe that it was criminal to pre-emtively attack a soverign nation with the sole purpose of bringing down their leader. It was equally criminal that the invasion was based on such poor information, regardless of whether the information was known fraudulant or if it was simply poorly researched and followed up.
I’d like to add that at this point I think that it would be a mistake to withdraw. We have made a complete and utter shambles of a nation that was functioning reasonably, killing thousands of innocent civilians. However, that does not mean I support how GWB wants to go about continuing. GWB needs to get off his high horse, accept that going into Iraq was an error in the first place and admit that he has taken a country that was only dangerous within it’s own borders and turned it into an international danger spot in order to get real assistance from the entire global community (east and west, judeo-christian and other faiths, not just the coalition of the weak). Only with multi-lateral support will Iraq be truly stablised and no longer a hot-bed of anti-western sentimentality.
On the topic at hand, if Ms Carlson mentioned her position during the news then it is certainly worth scorn as opinion is not news. However if it was mentioned as part of any of the many Fox Vitirol Programs then it’s to be expected. It’s not the first time and it wont be the last time that someone from Fox Vitirol Programing has said something incendiary and borderline seditious. Fox is the trolls of the news world and should be treated as such – ignored and/or ridiculed.
January 10th, 2007 at 8:39 pmI think their are only a few trolls on this thread but they are posting under many different names. They are all too much alike: “Joanâ€, “Johnâ€, “Sharonâ€, “edâ€, “robertâ€, “Billy Bobâ€, etc.
Comment by liberal press
Joan, Billy Bob, and ed seem to be new. I have been here for a while. I guess that my denouncing censorship that some have called for make me a troll.
By the way, haven’t seen you around before…
January 10th, 2007 at 8:54 pmTo: katie? Seditious !!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 10th, 2007 at 8:59 pmAnd having liberal wacko celebs spouting hate filled tyraids about how bush is a liar and a murderer isn’tn seditious.. I bet your just calling it free speech and “dissent” because it’s not the same when people well respected (not by me” can get there idiotic voice heard round the world……Just like Kerries vietnam comments along with … crap whats her name wasn’t aiding the enemy.. Didm’t a bunch of pows claime that they were tortured after hearing the viet’s here those comments?????? Just wondering what a double standard you have???
I guess we should be praising Kennedy then? He’s a moron. He couldn’t get elected in any other state than Mass., where people have been blindly voting Kennedy since before Joe was running liquor. The last time I checked my public school history book, the last war we lost was the one politicians ran (ie Vietnam). Shut the hell up and let the ground commanders prosecute the war, and not fat, bloated, has been, ran away from an accident and killed a woman senators.
January 10th, 2007 at 9:05 pmKerry jumped out of war within four months. He cut his hand purposely and asked his commander for a purple heart referral. when his commander refused, Kerry wrote one himself. He was relieved of duty and returned to the states criticizing all of his “friends†in Vietnam.
you have no more proof for those statments than i have to prove that 9/11 was planned by bush and cheney as a means of controlling mideast oil.
it’s funny how there is ten times more proof that bush dodged service in vietnam wilfully and then went AWOL from even that, but that doesn’t stop moron republicans like you from ignoring the FACTS and trafficking in blatant lies when it comes to backing up your own weak assed arguments.
go spout your first grade rhetoric somewhere more to your intellectual caliber, like a toilet bowl or an adult movie booth garbage can.
January 10th, 2007 at 9:22 pmKennedy has been a hard-core leftist for years. Remember, he conspired with the Sandinistas to undermine American foreign policy. He led the defunding of our Cambodian and South Vietnamese allies — leading to…The Killing Fields. He also abandons dates in sinking cars. He is a proven enemy of our state. Props to Fox News.
January 10th, 2007 at 9:30 pmI must say it is a bit refreshing to see Faux news has stopped pretending to be anything but Bush apologists.
January 10th, 2007 at 9:30 pmOkay, just so I’ve got this straight…
January 10th, 2007 at 9:40 pmKennedy wants us the hell out of Iraq because: a – Bush lied about MWDs (even though his conclusion was based on damn near EVERY intel service in the Free World), and b – We’re losing. Oh yeah, and because George Bush is a murderous dope.
The Administration is advocating decocracy in Iraq because: a – We really don’t need another pre-911 Afghanistans, and b – because if we lose the West is screwed.
Now what I really don’t understand is why most progessives advocate a victory (no other word for it) for a culture that: a – denies Women’s Rights, b – denies the right of Freedom of Expession, Freedom of Religion and Freedom in General, and c – would flat out exicute most of the progessives who want to pursue the Kennedy postion.
So… Can somebody explain this to me without being a jerk about it?
Thanks,
- Doc
Gretchen, please do not take a ride across a bridge with Ted, BLOND IN THE POND, Kennedy.
January 10th, 2007 at 9:43 pmGretchin, pleas do not take a ride across a bridge with Ted, BLOND IN THE POND, Kennedy.
January 10th, 2007 at 9:44 pmif the shoe fits……….wear it
January 10th, 2007 at 9:46 pmYep – this chick knows who butters her bread . . . .
January 10th, 2007 at 9:46 pm*
Ted Kennedy, wasn’t he the same Senator who help pull the funding from the soldiers in Vietnam allowing over 1.5 million Vietnamese and Cambodians to be slaughtered at the hand of the Communist???? Think about it, he’s doing the same here and again nobody cares.
January 10th, 2007 at 9:47 pmShe’s wrong, he is not an enemy. I believe (Kennedy) is an idiot. I will say he is also “hostile”.
January 10th, 2007 at 9:49 pmshe better not get in a car with him and go over a bridge.
January 10th, 2007 at 9:53 pmshe better not get in a car with him and go over a bridge.
January 10th, 2007 at 9:53 pmSo 70% of americans are enemies of the state
January 10th, 2007 at 9:55 pmso what to do ?
start sending the inner hostile enemy to FEMA camps ofcourse
umm americans , good luck for the next few years , u will need it
So the 70% of americans are enemies of the state so what to do ?
January 10th, 2007 at 9:56 pmstart sending the inner hostile enemy to FEMA camps ofcourse
umm americans , good luck for the next few years , u will need it
Ted Kennedy, wasn’t he the same Senator who help pull the funding from the soldiers in Vietnam allowing over 1.5 million Vietnamese and Cambodians to be slaughtered at the hand of the Communist?
remember how the right countered the point that vietnam was a pointless and horrid war based off lies by saying that if we didn’t fight and win there then communism would, in quick order, rule over humanity?
god, that prediction turned out so well, just as all the other predictions the right has with foreign policy. i mean, look no further than IRAQ!!!
how does it feel to be so right all the time?
January 10th, 2007 at 9:56 pmProps to bush’s new speach and boo to the media for the typical “it’s nothing new” spin. They all have blinders on and won’t stop and open their eyes. because they are running with the other bulls and people screaming death to the infidels. he layed it out… protect borders, take the gloves off, hold area just not sweep them and make sure iraqis take responisbility afterwards. If Iraq can’t get on it’s feet it’s not because we haven’t tried and it won’t be a defeat for america but for iraqis and the middle easts long tradition of being murderous thugs without civilization.
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January 10th, 2007 at 9:57 pmand boo on protestors… if your side was better they would have gotten more votes
January 10th, 2007 at 9:57 pmIf it wasnt fo the rights continued push to out spend and out arm america we would be commies right now you fool
January 10th, 2007 at 10:00 pmIf it wasnt fo the rights continued push to out spend and out arm america we would be commies right now you fool.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:02 pmIf the dems had their way commuinism would rule the world right now and unfortunately it’s ruling most of our universities right now with the help of the aclu
For all you public school educated illiterati out there, I am a life-long resident of the People’s Republic of Massachusetts. Ted Kennedy has spent his entire career giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Not only did Art (#469) get it correct on the numbers of Vietnamese and Cambodians slaughtered by Teddy’s treason, but the horrendous abuse suffered by American POW’s at the Hanoi Hilton and places like it is a direct result of his treason and others like him.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:04 pmKennedy has been a hard-core leftist for years. Remember, he conspired with the Sandinistas to undermine American foreign policy.
Comment by Anti-AmericanMark
Boo Hoo. Reagan sold weapons to the same terrorists who held Americans hostage, and then lied about it. Your heros are all traitors. What’s that say about you?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:05 pmNice to see moonbats loving senators who kill or drown innocent girls
January 10th, 2007 at 10:05 pmWhat a hero booze face is to progstupids
Ted Kennedy has been an enemy within since 1965, everything he has done has been bent on destroying the U.S.A. p.s.: FOX News is too liberal for me.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:06 pmIf the dems had their way commuinism would rule the world right now and unfortunately it’s ruling most of our universities
well, if your writing ability and grammar usage is any indictation, you should be able to confirm that fact when you go to university yourself… in about… 15 years?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:07 pm#464 Doc Frederickson
Okay, just so I’ve got this straight…
Kennedy wants us the hell out of Iraq because: a – Bush lied about MWDs (even though his conclusion was based on damn near EVERY intel service in the Free World), and b – We’re losing. Oh yeah, and because George Bush is a murderous dope.
Nope, you don’t have it straight. You’ve pretty well screwed it up. It’s WMDs, not MWDs. Bush and Cheney left out all the intelligence that didn’t support their goal to invade Iraq, which was something they had planned even before he was (s)elected. They did include intelligence that they were told was unreliable, such as what Curveball told them. They didn’t pay any attention to what Saddam’s son-in-law told us in ‘95 after he’d defected, that all the WMDs had been disposed of. He was right. We also know from the British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, Blair’s Chief Foreign Policy Advisor, the UK Ambassador to the US, and Straw’s Political Director that Bush was determined to start a war with Iraq, was “fixing intelligence” to justify it, was trying to provoke it with attacks on Iraqi installations, and even suggested to Blair that they have a U-2 spy plane painted with UN colors fly over Iraq to lure Saddam into firing on it. I realize that the Republicans were able to suppress a lot of this information by stalling on the Phase II report, but it’s gotten out through other channels and the report is going to be out soon. You can learn all about it then, since Fox News has shielded you from it up until now.
As for losing, are we? Do you think we are? I don’t see how we’re in a win-or-lose situation. We’re in the middle of someone else’s civil war and we’re not going to be able to stop it. But, as long as we’re there, we’re going to have our people killed. It won’t get better by us leaving, but it won’t get better by us staying. The difference is that we lose less American lives by leaving.
Actually, you were right on one thing. Bush is a murderous dope. He’s really worse than that, but it’s a good way to sum it up.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:10 pmThe TRUTH hurts eh demonRATs?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:11 pmNow what I really don’t understand is why most progessives advocate a victory (no other word for it) for a culture that: a – denies Women’s Rights, b – denies the right of Freedom of Expession, Freedom of Religion and Freedom in General, and c – would flat out exicute most of the progessives who want to pursue the Kennedy postion.
So… Can somebody explain this to me without being a jerk about it?
Thanks,- Doc
You guys had no problems with women’s rights, freedom of expression or freedom of religion when Saddam was confronting the Iranians. Why whine about it now, Doc? We were telling you this was destined for failure, as it was started under false pretenses, and with no cultural understanding of the region, but you thought you knew better. Iraqi blood is on your hands as well, and if an Iraqi is reponsible for the next attack on America, it will be your fault. Hope I wasn’t being too much of a jerk.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:12 pmTime for the fairness doctrine.
And wingnuts, shut up; your Decider has blown it for all of us.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:13 pmWhat is most interesting, and rather obvious is that Fox News’ Fair and Balanced news reporting strategy is still functioning exceedingly well.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:13 pmReading all these comments does indicate their method ALSO attracts multitudes of liberal-minded folks.
That is why FNN’s total viewership numbers greatly and consistantly exceeds all those other so-called ‘news networks’.
FANTASTIC!!
Comment by Steve J
What a pinhead.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:13 pmKennedy, Kerry, Polosi. Shumer. Durban and the like.These are the same drug infested pot smoking dopers from the Vietnam era. They are just older and now running our country. Wakeup young people in America, they sold their souls to the devil during the pullout in Vietnam killing millions, incuding American Servicemen they left behind and now they want to do the same to the Iraqis. How many more will the killing fields hold with the likes of them. Isn’t it amazing how history keeps repeating itself. Even so called highly educated people like Katie Curic talk stupid. They lack a basic understanding of history. They DON’T KNOW HISTORY. It must be the dumbing down of America by our Government run education system. Make people stupid and you can be control them easier.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:14 pmNice to see moonbats loving senators who kill or drown innocent girls
What a hero booze face is to progstupids
Comment by moonbat drival
Read the name knuckledragger!
Bush doesn’t make sense, drunk or sober.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:15 pmSorry I”m not paying enough attrention to my typing and have to do other things to. Typical lefter… how do you know my education level? age? gender? creed? your a smarter man than I if you can find it out about my typing? Typical left crap about insulting people and getting off topic .. thanks again fro making my point about the left
January 10th, 2007 at 10:16 pmConsidering that only about 13% of the people in the U.S. agree with Bush about sending more troops into Iraq, I think we’ve got most of those poor deluded souls posting on this thread tonight. That is unless someobody’s posting under more than one name. Oh, but Fox News junkies wouldn’t do something like that. They’re morally upright people and would never think of being so dishonest just to make it look like there are a lot more of them than there really are.
Fox News – Moral Values – Loofah
January 10th, 2007 at 10:18 pm“What a pinhead”
Yes indeed, barf-fly, you, AND the swimmer, are pinheads, AND you, and he, and the rest of the demonRATs, are the enemies within.
Consider yourself beeeeeeeeeeyyyyaaaach slapped princess.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:21 pm#487 Steve J
The TRUTH hurts eh demonRATs?
Oh no. That’s so cruel. You have no idea how much that hurts me.
You page-groping gay prostitute Republican.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:23 pmHA! this is funny just like being in school again….wish I was that young again….
January 10th, 2007 at 10:26 pmI’m sure the family of the woman at Chappaquiddick considers Kennedy a hostile enemy. Who can honestly defend this idiot?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:26 pmThey DON’T KNOW HISTORY. It must be the dumbing down of America by our Government run education system. Make people stupid and you can be control them easier.
Comment by Art
I always enjoy wingnuts who claim to know history. Here’s a question, Art, supposed history buff: can you name an instance in recorded history in which democracy was ever successfully installed in a country that has never before had it by an invading force? And before you try using WW2 Japan, uh, uh; we were retaliating for their attack, and not invading to set up democracy. They were the initial invaders.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:28 pmConsider yourself beeeeeeeeeeyyyyaaaach slapped princess.
Comment by Steve J
And it’s this same attitude that’s got us stuck in Iraq; yahoos who’ve never fired a shot, crowing about non-existent victories. Since you have no real ones to speak of, I’ll let you keep your fantasy intact.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:31 pmI’m sure the family of the woman at Chappaquiddick considers Kennedy a hostile enemy. Who can honestly defend this idiot?
Comment by Rick
Ironic, coming from a Bush supporter.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:32 pmI’m sure the family of the woman at Chappaquiddick considers Kennedy a hostile enemy. Who can honestly defend this idiot?
if enemy’s of this country are defined by if they’ve killed others while driving, then we have an enemy of the state in the white house named laura bush.
get your pitchforks and torches, republicans!! the future of this very nation depends on you eliminating our enemies… starting at the highest reaches and working your way down.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:32 pmHey liberal press; Why is it that part of the DNA of someone who is a liberal always seems to resort to insults and name-calling? Why is this a S.O.P. for liberals to degrade and belittle other people that disagree with them? I just don’t get it why you liberals are so mouthy, disrespectful and nasty because someone disagree’s with you? Can you explain this? (stay focused please and just answer the question)
January 10th, 2007 at 10:33 pm“#487 Steve J
The TRUTH hurts eh demonRATs?
Oh no. That’s so cruel. You have no idea how much that hurts me.
You page-groping gay prostitute Republican.
Comment by chimpeach — January 10, 2007 @ 10:23 pm”
Hey CHIMPY we’re NOT talking about your daddy here.
BTW, it’s hard not to notice that you demonRAT’s “tolerance” of sexual deviance, depends on IF you agree with that specific degenerate’s politics.
That’s just sooooooooo 19th century-ish intolerant, monkey boy.
Shame on you CHIMPY.
Shame on you.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 10th, 2007 at 10:34 pm#492 Art
Take a look at Bush: rich kid who got into lots of trouble but never had to pay the consequences, coke addict, alcoholic, high school cheerleader, elitist who got to skip the draft and avoid Vietnam, Daddy got him into the Air National Guard, he deserted from the Air National Guard during time of war, was given businesses to run but ran them into the ground, still walked away with a lot more money than he put in, got away with illegal insider trading with Daddy’s help, and had his brother and the Florida Secretary of State purge 95,000 legal voters from the rolls to help hand him the presidency. Not to mention, he can’t put two words together without one of them being a lie and the other being mispronounced. Lying moron or moronic liar?
And that’s your hero? Pretty sad, Art.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:34 pmWhat’s the matter, Art? I thought you knew so much about history. Just one example that this Iraq invasion wasn’t just pie-in-the-sky wishful thinking on the part of frightened conservatives?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:37 pmSorry IՉ۪m not paying enough attrention to my typing and have to do other things to.
there’s typos, there’s the occasional honest mistake, and then there’s what you’re doing.
believe me, i don’t know why i’ve been reading through the trolls on here tonight (it’s hurting my brain), but i have been. and paying attention to you, i’ve picked up enough to know you’re doing nothing even remotely resembling writing in a coherant manner. and guess what, when you write like a fourth grader and then simultaneously pretend like you some how have some insight that most of the people on here don’t have or can’t reach, you come off looking like an idiot.
and save your idiotic come-back, as i’m out of this place for the night. just like i’m out of a library or classroom when a bunch of retards run into the room screaming and drooling all over everybody.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:38 pm“And it’s this same attitude that’s got us stuck in Iraq; yahoos who’ve never fired a shot, crowing about non-existent victories. Since you have no real ones to speak of, I’ll let you keep your fantasy intact.”
Thanks for showing, once again, how you demonRATs pull “facts” out of your a$$, never letting truth get in your way.
LOL!!!!!!!!!
January 10th, 2007 at 10:39 pmI just don’t get it why you liberals are so mouthy, disrespectful and nasty because someone disagree’s with you? Can you explain this? (stay focused please and just answer the question)
Comment by Mike Anthony
The TRUTH hurts eh demonRATs?
Yeah, it’s all so confusing!
January 10th, 2007 at 10:39 pmKennedy should have been tried in Baghdad with his buddy Saddam.
Same sentence too
January 10th, 2007 at 10:39 pmOk heres a fact lets get all red faced bloated boozers out of public office.. then get all people with felonies or near felonies out too. That would leave almost no top dems to speak of……..It’s funny that from a group that wants to pass ethical reforms to be the most unethical…. Maybe the reps didn’t pass any ethical reforms because on their side they didn’t need any beacause when something was found out it was taken care of (at the time the foley thing wasn”t known to be big and he was warned and then the evidence was hid by the dems to break down the reps majority) In real life the guy who hid the evidence should be tried also…and also you should go to the police first and not the press thats what their ther for. Isn’t it a crime to conceal evidence?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:40 pmKennedy should have been tried in Baghdad with his buddy Saddam.
Same sentence too
Comment by nullLarry
Actally he was good buddies with Reagan, and Bush 1 before Bush messed up, and had to conduct Desert Storm to fix it. Should we hang him too numbskullLarry?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:45 pmIt’s funny that from a group that wants to pass ethical reforms to be the most unethical…
Pulling stuff out your butt again I see, eh, RogerRubberstamp?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:48 pm… and also you should go to the police first and not the press thats what their ther for. Isn’t it a crime to conceal evidence?
Comment by Rogerrabbit
Not if you’re the Vice President, and have just drunkenly shot your friend in the face! Then it’s okeydokey!
January 10th, 2007 at 10:53 pm[...] WH thinks Fox News is too bias as it labels Kennedy a "hostile enemy" GRETCHEN CARLSON: You talk about the hostile enemy, obviously being Iraq, but hostile enemies right here on the home front. Yesterday Senator Ted Kennedy, proposing that any kind of a troop surge should mean there should be congressional approval of that. A lot of democrats not coming to his side on this. But obviously this is not going to be an easy sell on Capitol Hill, even if it’s not an easy sell to the American Public. BARTLETT: We don’t view Ted Kennedy as hostile enemy but we do view him to be an open and often critic of the war. He has been from the outset. I don’t think that’s anything new Think Progress » Fox News Anchor Calls Ted Kennedy A ‘Hostile Enemy Right Here On The Home Front’ Video is there How the hell can anyone claim Fox News is not the most partisan GOP attack machine out there when its NEWS ANCHORS label US politicians as hostile enemies to the United States of America, anyone here think CNN’s news anchor like Wolf Blitzer would call Orin Hatch an enemy of the US for his being stingy on anti-terror funds prior to 9/11? Jees, can it get anymore overwhelming [...]
January 10th, 2007 at 11:00 pmI focus on who is willing to fight this war on terrorism. It should have begun before Sept. 11, 2001. Now we look weak, cowardly, easy to intimidate and easy to frighten. Come on, Americans! Why is it bad to love this country? Why is it bad to be patriotic. I’m mad at Bush for not listening to us about illegal immigrants. On that matter, I believe he has sold us out. There has to be some hidden agenda that will be of no benefit for our country. I support the goals we are working for in Iraq, as ugly as it is getting. There is still good coming out of Iraq. Why won’t anyone listen to the positives? I am disappointed in our politicians! Most of them show no character, no honesty. I watch Fox News because the network news and CNN infuriate me. And with all the rudeness I read in blogs, all the name calling, who can say he/she is right? Why would I trust your opinion to be right? Most of you are cynical and tasteless.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:01 pmGod bless this country, Please!!
#506 Steve J
Hey, it’s your party Steve. You belong to the GOP. It stands for “Grope Our Pages”. You’re the guys with the gay prosititute who hangs out at the White House. You’re the guys who like to preach hatred against homosexuals until it turns out that…oops!…you ARE one.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:02 pmIf the shoe, or waterlogged car, fits…..
January 10th, 2007 at 11:08 pmTed Kennedy should be tried for TREASON. His negative statements and hostile attitude to our country’s involvment in a time of danger and war
January 10th, 2007 at 11:11 pmcertainly gives aid and comfort to our enemies who use these unpatriotic outbursts to their advantage.They demoralize the troops who are putting their lives on the line. At difficult times we should all pull together and encourage one another no matter how we may have felt before the outset of this conflict.Kennedy did NOT berate Clinton who also thought at Iraq under Saddam was a threat to our security…………..Ruth Kuttenkuler……Tipton Missouri
Hmmmm. You seem to have a pretty limited understanding of the history of warfare. Since when does one have to be an armed combatant to be an enemy? As you sound like a leftist, you surely are not ignorant of the myriads of unarmed “enemies” murdered by Communists stretching from the days of Lenin to today’s Castro era.
Certainly, Kennedy has, at the very least, rendered comfort to our country’s Islamofascist enemies — particularly when he visited Guantanamo, but NOT out of concern for OUR troops there (who are have at times been splattered by some of the inmates with semen, feces, and or urine), but RATHER out of an OVERWROUGHT, enemy-loving concern for the poor little detainees kept there.
Kennedy, who has never served a day in his life in the military, has never looked more like what he is — a fat, spoiled, and intensely selfish rich kid, who knows nothing about the military and probably finds the Iraq war a very annoying distraction from his Hyannisport party schedule.
– gunjam
January 10th, 2007 at 11:14 pm#513
at the time the foley thing wasnՉ۪t known to be big and he was warned and then the evidence was hid by the dems to break down the reps majority
And you say that because why? Somebody on Fox wished it was true? The fact of it is that Republicans Hastert, Alexander, Shimkus, Boehner, Kolbe, Reynolds, and several staffers knew about Foley and even warned other pages about him. The Republicans kept it a secret from the one Democratic member of the Page Committee, Dale Kildee. And nowhere has it ever been said that the Republicans told any of the Democrats. But, the Republicans knew about Foley and let him continue on as Chair of the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children’s Caucus. And you’ve got the nerve to complain, “It’s not fair. The Democrats didn’t turn us in. They let us continue on with our sleazy ways until just before the election.” The Democrats didn’t know about! If they did, they’d have had the decency to do something about it.
And how dense are you that you have to have this whole thing rehashed for you, because you didn’t get it the first time? In a few months when you’ve completely forgotten the facts of the Foley scandal again, instead of spouting your mouth off like an idiot, just say “I forgot. What happened with that whole Foley thing again?” It might spare you the humiliation.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:18 pm#518 Pat
I watch Fox News because the network news and CNN infuriate me.
Yes, I’m sure it’s comforting to have a ‘news’ program that agrees with your boneheaded ideas about how things are in the world, as opposed to the awful strain of actually learning some facts.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:22 pmGet over it man. You’re pretending the Dems are a godless communist party just to maintain your hate. It’s a fantasy. Wake up.
Comment by Televangefrist — January 10, 2007 @ 3:27 pm
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I’m not pretending anything. Your bunch are the great pretenders. You meander through life with your heads up your fat asses and live on hope, hoping that everything will turn out alright. You are trained by your “wonderfully educated” liberal professors that are wonderfully successful at brainwashing you thick skulled idiots. Any human being that has the stupidity to vote for a Ted Kennedy, a John Frigging Kerry, a bill clinton, a Barbara Boxer, a John Schumer, a Dick Durbin, a jimmie Carter, and on & on, must have shit for brains. Your IQ is comparable to the likes of Cindy Sheehan, Michael Moore & Barbara Streisand. Now, that I have that complement off my chest and you have digested it, you’re free to go back to your ostrich stance.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:25 pmI think Teddy Kennedy IS an enemy of this country. I ,as a Viet Nam Vet
remember what the Democrats did to South Viet Nam and they will try to do the same to Iraq.
They will cut funding and hang the Iraqis out to dry. Millions died in South East Asia because of the Democrats many of whom are STILL in Congress including Teddy Kennedy. These people are traitors in every sense of the word and there will be a special place in hell when they are gone.
I want everyone to remeber how they voted and what they said because it will come back to haunt them. Iraq is not the war…Iraq is just a battle in this war on terror and it will go on long after what happens in iraq is done.
If we do let them “cut and run” it will be ten times as expensive in lives and treasure when we go back. I for one, would prefer going ahead and taking out Iran now before they get a substantial number of nuclear weapons and have the means to deliver them.
If we wait to long to take out Iran conventionally, the Israelis will have to take them out with nuc’s and nobody wants that!
The sooner we take out Iran the sooner this war will end!
January 10th, 2007 at 11:26 pmTed Kennedy crawls out of his drunken stupor spider hole about once every 6 months and makes his slurred alcohol-pickled brained comments and people still actually take this lush serious.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:29 pmI agree with her. I’ll go one step or two further: Kennedy is a traitor. Why? Because I would say that it is patriotic to fight for what you think is right and to help change course, but it’s quite the opposite when you undermine our efforts.
And the latter negates the former, too.
Kennedy and a few others have put their own needs ahead of the country’s. At every turn regarding Iraq and many other things, Kennedy goes out of his way to hurt the country. When Abu Gharib happened, instead waiting for the information to come in (like that the problems mostly happened on one shift over a short period of time), Kennedy made it out that the whole military is to blame. This does not help anyone.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:29 pmThere are plenty of other examples. What he forgets is we can watch what he says/does on the internet now; we don’t just have a few newspapers or networks that cover for him.
Kennedy, who has never served a day in his life in the military, has never looked more like what he is — a fat, spoiled, and intensely selfish rich kid, who knows nothing about the military and probably finds the Iraq war a very annoying distraction from his Hyannisport party schedule.
– gunjam
Comment by gunjam
gunjammed – and misfired. Kennedy served in the army, idiot.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:30 pmoh bah bah chimpy… in your leftist eye’s your the only enlightened one. We are discussing the media here and it’s reporting you ass of cours I’m talking about the media. If I was a leftist I would be insulting your education or your memory or getting talking points from the mauist guerillas. blah blah blah. Whats your reason that they didn’t pass the info to the police first? nd of course people say “keep away from that guy” at some workplaces…. but if you don’t have evidnece….. you can”t do anything. Unlike dems and libs want to think.. you need evidence to go after the guy not lynch him like the dems did to blacks back in the days… yeas dems I said it. and mister history buff look now at Byrd from wv a card carrying memeber of the kkk ( a dem) and also doens’t care about his state…. I’ve been there ( too often) and I know. Look in the mirror. and bring tissues cuz your gonna cry when your self rightenous wears off.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:30 pmI always enjoy wingnuts who claim to know history. Here’s a question, Art, supposed history buff: can you name an instance in recorded history in which democracy was ever successfully installed in a country that has never before had it by an invading force? And before you try using WW2 Japan, uh, uh; we were retaliating for their attack, and not invading to set up democracy. They were the initial invaders.
Comment by Barfly
Barfly,
January 10th, 2007 at 11:33 pmYou are quite right, of course, about Japan attacking the US first (at Pearl Harbor). To debunk another neo-con talking point concerning the democratization of Japan (and Germany, for that matter) after WWII, both countries had already had some experience with a parliamentary democracy before Fascist militarists took over around the 1930s.
The moonbats are out defending one of the worst. Ted Kennedy AKA the Cape Cod Orca, has an IQ that is marginally above the proof of the Scotch his father, the bootlegger, stock swindler, Nazi Lover and Anti-semite dealt. Kennedy is indeed an enemy of the commonwealth. Were he to have his way everyone would be held in thrall to the beliefs of the loony left.
And the left is indeed stupid and insane. Nothing they have done or supported since JFK has done what they wanted. They want to cure single mother hood and we have more single mother, they want to cure drug use and we have more drug use, the restrict guns and we have more gun crime. Why they are not held accountable for the degradation of western life I do not know. Perhaps because the media is filled with the same idiots.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:34 pmI’m not pretending anything. Your bunch are the great pretenders. You meander through life with your heads up your fat asses and live on hope, hoping that everything will turn out alright.
Sounds just like urine-stained republicans to me. You guy have no understanding of history – or physics. Otherwise you’d realize your tough-guy diplomacy was doomed to failure. Britain’s had enough, and is pulling their troops out, so when are you cheerleaders going to enlist?
January 10th, 2007 at 11:35 pmKennedy has been elected to the Senate by the people of Massachusetts 8 times, 6 of them after Chappaquiddick.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:35 pmComment by liberal press — January 10, 2007 @ 4:30 pm
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Nuff said. What does that tell you about the idiots produced by the state of Massachusetts? Talk about having your head up your ass & locked? For a lifetime?
The sooner we take out Iran the sooner this war will end!
Comment by Michael A. Pacer
So enlist, and show us how it’s done!
January 10th, 2007 at 11:36 pmYou go, Gretchen! I’m proud to be a fellow Minnesotan! I didn’t know you had it in you!
Keep speaking the truth.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:37 pmWhats your reason that they didn’t pass the info to the police first? nd of course people say “keep away from that guy†at some workplaces….
Are we now talking about Cheney’s drunken hunting?
January 10th, 2007 at 11:37 pmI hate to say it but after reading numerous of these comments, those left wingers should read their own rants and realize that they no longer resemble normal people. As far as a Clinton/Kennedy ticket, she could never ride in a car with Kennedy driving near any water and the spaces under all desks would have to be checked for her husband and/or his friend. As far as the war on terror, if B. Clinton would have paid attention to it during his administration instead of trying to define what “is is” we might not be in Iraq now. Grow up people and quit making everthing political and start thinking about the Country first. And remember, our Country was founded with the belief of the one true God and when that is forced out by the ACLU and others, this Country will cease to be a Country.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:38 pmWhy they are not held accountable for the degradation of western life I do not know. Perhaps because the media is filled with the same idiots.
Comment by not a yank —
Because there’s money to be made. As Fox about their porn offerings.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:41 pmEdward Kennedy did serve in the army, assigned to Paris, France as an Honor Guard (or so I have read).
January 10th, 2007 at 11:42 pmAlso, can’t Gretchen Carlson speakout against a Senator or is that only for liberals speaking out against conservatives on NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC and CNN?
Ted Kennedy is a murderer and has called George Bush much worse. He should be in jail, not staggering around the Senate spouting nonsense that gives aid and comfort to the enemy.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:44 pmWho cares what this skanky whore thinks, anyway?
January 10th, 2007 at 11:49 pmIf you libs would look at your posts and see the ranting going on. Thats what has destroyed our country jimmy the pacifist carter and bill the “intern” clinton. Sure reps have problems. They can see theirs why can’t you see yours? And you still can’t say why that guy didn’t hand in the info to the police first? If the guy was a molester he could have gotten away with it why he was holding onto the papers?. It’s so funny how you will forgive your sides sins or overlook them but tear so fervently at others. Stop being so angry and dillusional. Stop acting like a kid and wanting to drive. Your track record isn’t any better thn the reps and you’ve been in power longer than the reps have? Why can’t you guys form plans and not complain? Why do you have to do the whining and complaining like kids? Appeasists and angry people never get elected. thats why you lost pres election 2yrs in a row.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:49 pmBoy, you conservatives sure are sexually repressed little dweebs. And reading your posts, it’s easy to see why. You must get laid about as much as Radar O’Reilly.
You guys lost. Too bad. Quit sniveling. Kennedy’s legacy is safe.
Bush’s, though, is toast.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:49 pmpoysunivy = New troll.
Nuff said.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:50 pmKennedy, who has never served a day in his life in the military
Ignorance by Gunjam
All you have to do is Google, “Ted Kennedy’s military service,” and you will get things like,
January 10th, 2007 at 11:50 pm“Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) – U.S. Army, 1951-1953.”
Never served a day in his life in the miltary, eh? And how about five-deferment Dickhead Cheney, or Daddy’s-connections-got-me-to-skip-ahead-of-hundreds-on-the-National-Guard-waiting-list Dumbya?
Also, can’t Gretchen Carlson speakout against a Senator or is that only for liberals speaking out against conservatives on NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC and CNN?
Comment by Scott Leikam
Who cares what a Foxbot says? I haven’t once posted anything against her choice of words – but the over-heated trolls on this thread are another matter.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:51 pmTed Kennedy never murdered anyone, you idiot. You sound like a brainwashed republican.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:51 pmAppeasists and angry people never get elected. thats why you lost pres election 2yrs in a row.
Screams Rogerrubberstamp from the political wilderness.
But now that you support an emasculated lame duck, should we now call you Rogerrubberducky?
January 10th, 2007 at 11:56 pmfunny how the libs have to make up new words to call people, like troll and neocon to justify a position of hate. How juvenile. If they devoted half as much time to being angry as they did to policing themselves and actually having a “plan for anything that goes beyond rederic they would never have lost the pres elections and wouldn’t have lost in 95 the house????
January 10th, 2007 at 11:57 pmClinton didn’t start a war based on a bunch of lies, tell the American people everything was going great, keep it going even after hundreds of thousands of people were killed, go on tv after almost four years and say that mistakes were made, and then make a bigger mistake by deploying more troops after being told by his generals, his troops, the Iraqi people, and the American people that more troops will not work. Clinton lied about a blow job.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:57 pmveto thats all I have to say to that.. watch him play a ford on your asses
January 10th, 2007 at 11:58 pmrubberstamp that one
By inaction you can murder someone… and wasnt it dui? Doesnt mass have one of those good samaritin laws????
January 11th, 2007 at 12:00 amThats what has destroyed our country jimmy the pacifist carter and bill the “intern†clinton.
And don’t forget that terrorist appeaser Reagan. His cowardice set the stage for all the deaths that followed. He’s the most responsible -and most irresponsible – even moreso than Bush.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:00 amWhen one party steals two elections of course the other party is going to “lose” twice.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:01 amClinton only lied about the bj but he was incompetant anyways… I would have liked a payraise when I was in the service…..instead he shut down bases while the other dems cut funding to our intelligence networks….. Thats why we had a 9/11 and thats why no matter how bad a rep or independant is I will never vote dem
January 11th, 2007 at 12:02 amveto thats all I have to say to that.. watch him play a ford on your asses
rubberstamp that one
Comment by Rogerrabbit
Try override, Bugs. Even the republicans are jumping ship. Bush will get rolled – or the republicans will lose even more seats in’08.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:03 am“funny how the libs have to make up new words to call people, like troll and neocon to justify a position of hate.”
You republicans, or whatever you are, are the most hateful people on the planet. You are so brainwashed by your party that you’ve totally lost touch with reality and you think your hate is accomplishing something.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:04 amSteals? get over it what a bunch of crybabies? If you had a stronger candidate you would have gotten more votes. (period) At least the reps didn’t have to try and start false rumors of vote tampering among blacks… dems always run to miorities to fix their woes… because they spout “entitlement” bs to them to get their vote. Try winning once with an actual plan not just “talking points” and accusations”
January 11th, 2007 at 12:05 amKennedy is not only a “hostile enemy”, he’s a “murderer”. While driving drunk after a party, with a women that was not his wife, he drove into a lake and without knowing the condition of the woman left under water, got out of the car and walked home. He left a woman to die so that no one would know he was with another women. “Hostile enemy” AND “murderer”.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:05 amBy inaction you can murder someone… and wasnt it dui? Doesnt mass have one of those good samaritin laws????
Comment by Rogerrabbit
And Bugs is going to hop in his Wayback machine, arrest him, and bring him to 2007, where he can be prosecuted!
What an ultra-maroon!
January 11th, 2007 at 12:08 amYou neocons love war. Carter was for peace through dialogue and negotiation and that’s why you hate him. You’re jealous because Bush can’t complete a sentence that isn’t written down. We have to put up with him bombing everybody he hates. Go ahead and back your president to start more wars and see how much peace that will bring.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:08 amGore did get more votes than Bush, or have you conveniently forgotten.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:10 am“He left a woman to die so that no one would know he was with another women.”
Don’t you think he knew that someone would find out he was giving someone a ride home when they found the body? You can do better than that.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:12 amyeah and we see how wonderfully the world scammed those peace loving prezs. If the bad guy knows there’s consequences to being an a hole then we ont try and con you like the north koreans did to clinton. I bet you were the guys on the playground that wouldn’t fight back cuz your hippy parents told you all violence is bad.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:12 amTry winning once with an actual plan not just “talking points†and accusationsâ€
Comment by Rogerrabbit —
Why? You guys messed things up so bad, voters were looking for a change, and gave dems control anyway, even without what you consider to be a message.
What does that tell you about your republican “product?”
People aren’t buying it any longer.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:13 amwhere? votes where?… he didn’t become prez did he? stop living in the past and being grumpy. I propose a new amendment to the constitution to allow all dems and libs to have anger management classes
January 11th, 2007 at 12:14 amGore did get more votes than Bush, or have you conveniently forgotten.
Comment by the liberal press
They can’t even remember why we invaded Iraq!
Expecting them to remember something that far back is expecting a lot.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:16 amI bet you were one of those guys on the the playground who always got your ass kicked because your neocon parents told you that all violence is good.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:16 amNo the media was on your side thats why…. you guys want to pass a bunch of hollow bs bills to make yourselve look good. When you blow our economy the reps will be back in just like every other time you stuffed the economy. Plus if bush’s new plan goes well as long as the economy you wont hold your 1 person lead anyways
January 11th, 2007 at 12:17 amsheesh, trying to get them to remember what happened yesterday is probably too much to ask.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:18 amI got my assed kicked as well as doing the ass kicking.. unlike libs I don’t run away. I rather die on my feet than serve on my knees…like a dem
January 11th, 2007 at 12:18 amyeah and we see how wonderfully the world scammed those peace loving prezs.
Um, that would be Reagan, and the terrorists. Once they say how two-faced and easily intimidated he was, his perfidy spurred even more hostage-taking. Geeze, it’s like you guys only know history from TV.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:20 amYes, we know that a 9 trillion dollar deficit is much better than a 1 trillion dollar surplus. Those fiscally responsible republicans are just so much better at balancing a budget.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:21 amBush is a pussy. He uses other peoples’ lives to fight wars that he starts after doing nothing to prevent them in the first place. No wonder you love him.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:24 amKennedy is a drunken boob who is singlehandedly responsible for millions of Cambodians and South Vietnamese being murdered at the end of the Vietnam war. He defunded our aid to them, saying that our actions in the region were inhibiting the growth of democracy! Sound familiar?
January 11th, 2007 at 12:24 amyou mean the fake surpluss that clinton gave us?? the fake paper one???
January 11th, 2007 at 12:25 amHow about qouting % to gdp intead of a number.. everyone gets excited when they here big number wbut when you compare it with% it’s lower than it has been in 10 years… more dem spin
If it wasnt for reagan communism would be a big problme right now??? and what about clinton.. never got the bombers of our embassys.. took gwb to do that today for him….
Did anyone see my post #52.
I didn’t watch Countdown, due to the fact I was working, but I heard that I was right. Gretchen Carlson is the worst person in the world.
Give me some props my good people. The trolls can just shut up and go Cheney themselves.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
January 11th, 2007 at 12:25 amGretchen “Fox News Whore” Carlson…Worst Person in the World!
January 11th, 2007 at 12:28 amunlike libs I don’t run away. I rather die on my feet than serve on my knees
Who’s running away, Bugs? I know you’re a fictional character, but could you deal with things that are real for a while?
And you wouldn’t serve on you knees, or any other way, coward.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:28 amyeah, and the largest trade deficit in history. How long do you think the economy can sustain trillion dollar deficits? Good job!
January 11th, 2007 at 12:31 amIf it wasnt for reagan communism would be a big problme right now???
Communism was on its last legs when RAYGUN took office. The same CIA that Bush claimed misled him, lied to Reagan, (and congress) to keep their funding.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:32 amIt’s also funny how its ok for dems to control 99% of the news media on tv and cry when they dont have the other 1% maybe thats why fox is kickin their asses???????? It’s also funny how when people become older and wiser and have kids they become more conservative?? and How allot of those “hippie” are now running big companies and the others who stuck to their guns are penniless or in meager jobs? Why they will stick up for a criminal but not for the victims? it’s ok to be a lib or a dem but if your a rep or a conservative its not? Why libs have to call reps heartless even though it’s proven cons give more to the poor and charity and even help out more at shelters? How instead of blaming 20+ years of corrupt govt in louisian for the problems that katrina caused you blame bush? (I lived in LA I know) And none of the dems will bash the woman senator their because shes a dem??? Also how most of the states with reps have better economies? Why it took Arnold S to clean up a tax and spend California? The reason we don’t hear more about reps achievements is because they aren’t braggards and whiners. Look at youselves in the mirriors and see whats gonna happen.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:33 amhe would serve on his knees to avoid serving any other way.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:33 ambarfly? get out of the bar and travel the world… instead of sitting in your dorm and picking your pimples. I don’t have to justify my life to you. I have fought and earned everything i have . Can you say that? When you close your eyes at night have you actually done anything? Made a diff? helped a person? no didn’t think so And I don’t personally care if you were raped by a dog right now
January 11th, 2007 at 12:35 amMr lib press I have served and so will my kid and his kid.. will yours or will you hide in your basemnent and blame others for your woes
January 11th, 2007 at 12:36 amIt’s also funny how its ok for dems to control 99% of the news media on tv and cry when they dont have the other 1% maybe thats why fox is kickin their asses????????
It’s corporate media, Bugs. Dems don’t control corporate media – they love republicans for their obscene tax policy, and their deregulation, so the biggest can gobble up the smaller fish. Fox is just more blatant about their pro-Bush cheerleading.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:39 amIt’s funny to note that much more conservaties have kids in the mil than libs or dems??? Why is that…?? because we know the cost of freedom and happiness and are not content with getting fat on other peoples suffering and death
January 11th, 2007 at 12:39 amgimme a break…open your eyes the media is so full of antiwar anti rep people it’s obscene. It’s ok for celebs to fly off the handle everywhere about the pres and the us but if a single rep does it ww3 breaks out
January 11th, 2007 at 12:42 ammaybe thats why fox is kickin their asses????????
How do you explain that their ratings are in free fall?
It’s also funny how when people become older and wiser and have kids they become more conservative??
Conservatives become more conservative, not liberals.
How allot of those “hippie†are now running big companies and the others who stuck to their guns are penniless or in meager jobs?
Link, please.
Why they will stick up for a criminal but not for the victims?
We do not stick up for Bush.
it’s ok to be a lib or a dem but if your a rep or a conservative its not?
Be whatever you want to be, it’s a free country. That’s the libs and dems position.
Why libs have to call reps heartless even though it’s proven cons give more to the poor and charity and even help out more at shelters?
Link, please.
How instead of blaming 20+ years of corrupt govt in louisian for the problems that katrina caused you blame bush?
“You’re doing a heck of a job, Brownie.”
And none of the dems will bash the woman senator their because shes a dem???
As if you would bash a republican.
Also how most of the states with reps have better economies?
Not true.
Why it took Arnold S to clean up a tax and spend California?
January 11th, 2007 at 12:44 amHe got a windfall. It wasn’t any of his doing.
barfly? get out of the bar and travel the world…
I’ve lived in places that would’ve sent you scrambling back to mama long ago. And the first law of trolls is they claim to have served . . .
When you close your eyes at night have you actually done anything? Made a diff? helped a person?
Actually, yes. I housed a terminal cancer patient for three years, until he passed away last year. You must have a lot of anger; I feel sorry for your kid, as he’ll have to bear the brunt of your self-hate, and your self-delusion for years to come. Poor kid.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:46 amIt’s funny to note that much more conservaties have kids in the mil than libs or dems???
Actually, that’s a talking point ungrounded in reality.
Prove it.
Opinion polls don’t count.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:48 amtypical dem and lib position if you ? them they call you a troll, brownie, or anything else. They never bash one of their own or take responsibilty if they screw up. Want stats lookem up your on the comp arent you? or are you using a new hippie brain wave transmitter? Look up the info and open your eyes.. I aint your daddy or your momma and i aint gonna give you nothin for free
January 11th, 2007 at 12:48 amas dr phil says kill what you eat not what he kills
Mr lib press I have served and so will my kid and his kid.. will yours or will you hide in your basemnent and blame others for your woes
Nice that you think so little of your children that you would encourage them to fight in an insane war for a madman. I do not blame others for anything. That is what George Bush does. Stop projecting republican smear onto dems.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:49 amanother typical dem and lib position and kerry takes this all the time “I served” blah blah blah… whens the last time you were in mogadishu or the flinders ranges int he middle of the outback? or fought a fire? o you housed a cancer patient? big deal theres a hospice down the street from me go volunteer
January 11th, 2007 at 12:51 amYou see serving is honorable.. you think it’s not and discourage it. You sound like a europeon
January 11th, 2007 at 12:52 amreally? I was talking accountability I’m just saying hold a mirror to yourselves.. and i also said I wasnt a rep or a cons… what might I be.. out with the name calling already… libs are so good at it
January 11th, 2007 at 12:54 amI don’t believe that Rogerrabbit has ever served or has a child. Republicans typically rely on fantasies because they have nothing else.
January 11th, 2007 at 12:55 amWhy it took Arnold S to clean up a tax and spend California?
He got a windfall. It wasn’t any of his doing.
Comment by the liberal press — January 11, 2007 @ 12:44 am
Yeah, how about that “Tax-payer X?”
That was some heavy bread he/she laid down!
If only we could get corporations to pay their fair share . . .
January 11th, 2007 at 12:55 amLook up the info and open your eyes.. I aint your daddy or your momma and i aint gonna give you nothin for free
That’s what I thought, Bugs.
All you can point to are polls, which can be skewed if those polled think they should answer one way or the other. There are no stats that back up your claim.
January 11th, 2007 at 1:00 amThe fact that Arnold got a windfall was all over the news. He’s an idiot. And yes, it would be nice to stop the corporate welfare.
January 11th, 2007 at 1:01 amWell I sure would like to see you guys continue to debate a person thats been razzing you up… but I have to work for a living.. you know pay bills and get food for myself…… since that whole wealth redistribution thing you guys are working on hasn’t worked yet…..How does it feel to know you’ve been debating a person thats just trying to rouse you up? Was it a waste of time? Did you learn anything? has it made you angry? touched a nerve? I don’t have simplistic need to hurt people as some do when they get on here and try to debate. I simply like to watch people crawl all over themsleves like rabid dogs at the first smell of blood. All these ideologies, reps, libs dems, are irrevelant. As in passing time so shall they and they’re outdated methodologies. Ask yourself of which construct am I viewing? you will never get back the last hour. you will never get a rise out of me. you will win no moral or emotional victory here. Look back at the last hours postings and see where your life is leading. Insignificance is knowing no one will know you existed in a hundred years or two hundred. When you wake up wil you remember this? when you look into your mirror will you then? Or when you look at your loved one will this all pass in your mind? Look.
January 11th, 2007 at 1:02 amshe calls it as she sees it, i think she is right
January 11th, 2007 at 1:04 amI served†blah blah blah… whens the last time you were in mogadishu or the flinders ranges int he middle of the outback?
You’re a chickenhawk for sure.
I was talking accountability I’m just saying hold a mirror to yourselves..
… says the guy, holding the filthy, dented hubcap that he uses for a mirror . . .
January 11th, 2007 at 1:04 amyou know pay bills and get food for myself……
See? No kids. Roger’s a liar.
Actually Rog, when I started, I was wondering if I could bump this thread to 600.
Thanks for doing your part.
January 11th, 2007 at 1:07 am#605…Typical “just trying to rouse you up” post when you have lost. And you are right, we have wasted our time. You, of course, have not. You might want to try looking in the mirror sometime yourself.
January 11th, 2007 at 1:08 am1) Define the enemy’s “uniform†(so we know who we’re fighting), then detain EVERYONE that matches that uniform.
Hey Levi, you know the large amount of Blackwater Mercenaries in Iraq dont wear uniforms either. Does that make them unlawful enemy combatants?
January 11th, 2007 at 9:00 amLiberal Press………I am going to point out some words, sentences and/or statements from time to time that liberals always use in an attempt to slam their opponant. For example, they always somehow insert: you never served (in reference to you never serve in the military. Apparently to show that since you support the war in Iraq and that you never serving makes you hypocritical. A liberal usually makes this assumption) Another strategic move by the liberals in an attempt to nutrealize the opponant.
January 11th, 2007 at 9:20 amThe liberal press doesn’t just suck, it swallows too… I hope someone gets a happy ending.
January 11th, 2007 at 9:31 amJP, f*** you. Bigg a** c***s*****
January 11th, 2007 at 9:48 am[...] Yesterday on Fox News, anchor Gretchen Carlson called Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) a “hostile enemy” of the United States because he has demanded that Congress vote on whether to approve funding for escalation in Iraq. [...]
January 11th, 2007 at 9:52 amClearly choreographed. Notice how she pauses for breath as she comes up to the hostile enemy remark, gathers her thoughts for a split second so she can review her instructions from Roger Ailes before they leave her lips, blathers on about democrats not coming to his side, and then Bartlett dismisses the floated meme with his ever present born again “smile.”
Gretchen Carlson is a very sorry excuse for a television performer. It’s really quite sad to behold a person so besotted with the thirst for money and attention that they will unquestioningly internalize the viewpoints of others in order to lay claim to guaranteed camera time. Quite a disturbing example of this kind of psychosis now running rampant through broadcast journalism.
January 11th, 2007 at 10:12 amLove gretchen….theres a reason Fox news is #1!!! Suck it Libs!!
January 11th, 2007 at 10:32 am[...] Think Progress » Fox News Anchor Calls Ted Kennedy A ‘Hostile Enemy Right Here On The Home Front’ Fox News Anchor Calls Ted Kennedy A ‘Hostile Enemy Right Here On The Home Front’ [...]
January 11th, 2007 at 1:54 pmI’m willing to bet that the majority of people here don’t watch The View at all. It’s just daytime gossip. You’re way the hell off base.
Comment by JaneESchneider #220
You’re mistaken Jane…
…he isn’t “off base”…
This al Crackkker a*shole is off his rocker…
…probably an escapee from a half-wit house…
…holed up in a NASCAR trailer park…
…with a picture of Bushiva and L’il Dick pinned to his bib overalls…
January 11th, 2007 at 2:42 pm[...] She called Ted Kennedy an enemy on the homefront… [...]
January 11th, 2007 at 3:06 pm“Hey liberal press; Why is it that part of the DNA of someone who is a liberal always seems to resort to insults and name-calling? Why is this a S.O.P. for liberals to degrade and belittle other people that disagree with them?”
Comment by Mike Anthony #505
“BTW, it’s hard not to notice that you demonRAT’s “tolerance†of sexual deviance, depends on IF you agree with that specific degenerate’s politics.
That’s just sooooooooo 19th century-ish intolerant, monkey boy.”
Comment by Steve J #506
“So, the lefties are proud of their show “The View†with Baba Wawas and that fat pig loud mouthed pervert rosie”
Comment by Billy Bob #214
“I hate to say it but after reading numerous of these comments, those left wingers should read their own rants and realize that they no longer resemble normal people.”
Comment by S. Fitch #538
“What does that tell you about the idiots produced by the state of Massachusetts? Talk about having your head up your ass & locked? For a lifetime?”
Comment by poysunivy #534
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Dear Mike, Steve, Billy, Fitch, poysunivy (et al.),
I’m so sorry your parents (who were obviously blood relations)…
… procreated (and made you), then engaged in horrendously rough sex with your psyches…
…leaving you psychologically, and intellectually “sterile”…
…isolated you, and made you social misfits…
…the year is 2007, and you are no longer prisoners in your parent’s suburban/trailer park “GITMOS”…
…the world does not revolve around your racist, misogynist, homophobic, murderous, impotent, insecure, arrogant, WASP male (or wannabe) al Crackker a*ses…
…those guns you love so much, (the ones that make you such he-men), will not save you…
…you will extinct yourselves because of your mental inferiority…
…that is social Darwinism…
… and YOU all represent the recessive gene pools…
January 11th, 2007 at 3:12 pmMost of you look like traitors. That would make it plausible for Teddy K to be an enemy. Maybe you can all ride a skyscraper down together.
January 11th, 2007 at 3:19 pmIf there is anyone harboring doubts that this war is NOT about oil- the geopolitical control of it and it’s profits- I ask your viewpoints on this plan, and your assessment on how the Bush administration would respond.
The Iraqi populations realistic cynicism over the PSAs http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200661222081 is helping to fuel the insurgency and the sectarian violence. If current “negotiations†stand, the major petroleum corporations in talks will take 75% of the profits realized by selling Iraqi oil http://baltimorechronicle.com/2007/010907Floyd.shtml. Much of the negotiations are based on infrastructure improvements to be made by the oil profiteers- improvements to date being paid for by the American taxpayer.
By taking up their sovereign reins, Iraqis can feel they are a nation with the resource potential to stand on their own and progress. This is the “stand up for themselves†rhetoric from the White House- with free-market economic incentive to back it up.
Iraq is a nation, and our Congress has the constitutional power to make treaties. As the majority of Iraqis believe that our occupation is a bid to steal their resources, our endgame and exit could relieve them of this rightful concern.
I wish Congress to take the initiative and halt this rape of Iraq resources in its tracks. Congress should tie the terms of the PSAs to a US-Iraq treaty in which:
The profit margins to big oil are tied to their outlays to improve non-oil Iraqi infrastructure. Investment requires capital outlay, and as we created the market by opening it, this is only fair. No US money should be spent to improve ancillary infrastructures to enable corporations to profit. That is a direct subsidy to big oil- they’ve already been at that trough.
No US tax dollars can be spent on improving oil infrastructure in Iraq. The US cannot provide Iraq with any additional funds to improve this sector- they must provide it themselves. Iraq is a sovereign democracy- Iraq money spent on rebuilding their oil infrastructure will be regained to the Iraqi treasury prior to any profits being taken by oil interests.
The US maintains oversight only on the Iraqi plan for oil wealth distribution within the Iraqi population. A joint and independent US/Iraqi oversight body is created to monitor and audit both infrastructure improvements and oil output.
Most importantly- open the PSAs to true competitive bidding, based on companies following the terms set above and bidding on a least-cost-to-Iraq arrangement. The Iraqi government must prove it’s democratic nature by maintaining open-bid contracting and public discourse on awards. Let’s let them do what Bush cannot- put them in the driver’s seat, give them control of their resources NOW, and force our government out of bed with the corporations that have cost the US and Iraq massive life and treasure to fill their coffers.
January 11th, 2007 at 5:07 pmHey Libs let me ask you a question………..
If you say that Bush was AWOL then what would you call Bill Clinton when he, in order to avoid going into the military let alone go to a war zone, signed up for the ROTC TO STALL AND USE UP THE TIME IN ORDER TO NO BE DRAFTED. You have zero witness or documentation on Bush. Yet, we have a signed legal affidavit of the Colonel who signed him up for the ROTC and guess what? He was offered the opportunity to go to Oxford University (when he got the Rhodes scholarship). All while he was under contract. So in essence he was legally and absolutely AWOL. If you want to, and I doubt if you will because liberals really are cowards, read the signed affidavit that was entered into the Congressional Record in 1994.
Here’s the link. I’ll await your response(s)
http://www.gmasw.com/holmes.htm
January 11th, 2007 at 5:16 pmI understand Bush was offered a Rhodes scholarship, too- but he didn’t want to spend four years at Two-Lane.
January 11th, 2007 at 6:09 pmAnyone with the drive and intellect to obtain a Rhodes Scholarship (much harder to get than, say, a legacy spot at an Ivy League for Daddy’s 2 mils) would seem to have a pretty good argument for an educational deferment. Did anyone in Bush’s chickenhawk Cabinet- or his VP- use educatinal deferment- or had a Rhodes Scholarship? quick and simple answers here- you can do it! In fact, did anyone in the Iraq war planning group have military service? Wolfowitz? Cheney? Rumsfield? Anyone?
January 11th, 2007 at 6:19 pmNow I’ve seen it all…A news reporter who is dumber than Dubya.
January 11th, 2007 at 9:40 pmShe should do Dubya’s next press conference. Should be quite an eddifying event..lol
Hey to the idiot that quoted Howard Zinn, he is an avowed communist, your stripes truly show or you are just as ignorant as the rest of the left wing loony shop that post the above responses?
January 11th, 2007 at 10:20 pm============================
January 11th, 2007 at 11:37 pmCourse not. You don’t consider the fact that he was impeached for lying of any significance? The only way you can tell when he’s lying is when his lips are moving. Maybe he should have started a war on the truth, but he & all you democRATs are too chickenshit to get into a war. This war was because of what bill clinton DID NOT do. He & jimmie carter. The war started 28 years ago with the Iranian hostage crisis in Teheran. carter started it. Nothing of any significance was done by previous administrations to stop the march of violence by the terrorists other than Ronald Reagan lobbing a rocket up Gadaffi’s ass in his tent. Did that make a believer of Omar? Better believe it. Course, you wouldn’t know that. He was a Republican. We were winning this war, until your democRATs & their accomplice, the liberal media, kept ramping up the criticism of Bush’s war effort to the point that the terrorists knew they were getting help from the democRATs so they ramped up their attacks to cause further split from Bush’s effort. How does it feel to be on the side of the enemy, you jerk?
All you can point to are polls, which can be skewed if those polled think they should answer one way or the other. There are no stats that back up your claim.
Comment by Barfly — January 11, 2007 @ 1:00 am
January 11th, 2007 at 11:43 pm====================================
This is how the democRATs work. clinton always sucked his index finger and stuck it in the political wind to see which way to go. Then, his lips started moving. Maybe he stuck that cigar up there for a reason other than kinky sex.
in responding to ‘big pappa’ your comments have shown what you truly are. You talk about parents and I say, Thank God that I had parents who did in fact instill into me the love of God and family and Country. I was also brought up knowing that a fetus was a human being. With your talking, I guess that you don’t believe that. Are you truly so bitter toward your parents because they did not abort you? Just think with every abortion there is one less liberal to have to listen to. Even with that thought, I still do not believe in abortion. I would rather them grow up and be able to show to the rest of the world how sick and immoral that they are. Thank you ‘big papa’ for being you and advancing the cause of Conservatives.
January 12th, 2007 at 12:24 am[...] The GOP’s news channel calls a longterm member of the Senate a hostile enemy “here on the home front.” [...]
January 12th, 2007 at 4:09 amHow many of you people 1) live in Massachusetts and 2) are a veteran?
I’m both, and I do consider him anti-American in most of his stances. That’s my OPINION. For my reasons it’s simple. I’ve had to live with that fat bastard as my Senator since before I was able to vote, and I’ve never voted for him, and never will.
He certainly doesn’t stand for any of MY values.
January 12th, 2007 at 7:22 amDieNowForPeace, you call me a “naive, fool you are” and my “3 step suggestion” approach “childish,” yet you don’t rebut any of the points. Name calling won’t get any of us anywhere, please, I invite your constructive criticism of the 3 problems that I outlined, and your suggestions to solve them.
hellinabucket, you asked why I wouldn’t enlist/draft all of us, dress us in uniforms and march us off to war. Simply put, I’m not an elected official, I’m not a military official, I don’t have the authority to do so — nor would I want to. You then imply the I’m racist with your “decapitation for people that don’t look like us” reference. I don’t know what you look like, nor do you know what I look like. I don’t know your race, color, creed, or religion for that matter — nor do you know mine. Making such statements is simply inflammatory — where are your constructive remarks? If you’re an American you have the freedom of speech and expression guaranteed, rather than flinging mud why not think about the ideas that I expressed (also guaranteed) and debate them with me. It’s obvious that we don’t see eye to eye on the matter, but by your failure to illustrate (constructively) what you think is wrong with my ideas, and what ideas you have then aren’t we all just spinning our tires?
- Joe Levi, http://www.JoeLevi.com
January 12th, 2007 at 3:58 pmFoc has a license for the same reason MSNBC has one. Freedom. Kenedy isn’t an enemy just a stupid drunk.
January 12th, 2007 at 11:16 pmGretchen’s just speaking truth to power
January 13th, 2007 at 1:32 pmThe Kennedys are a bunch of crooks, starting with papa Joe.You reap whot u sew, 2 dead sons,thats to bad.
January 14th, 2007 at 10:09 amBig Papa, you’ve listed all of your “attributes” except maybe the gun one. Hell, you probably are still running around playing with a popgun. One thing I would like to suggest. Since your party of misfits, the democRATs and the leftist media have been so successful in siding with the enemy and prodding them to step up their attacks in a war that we were definitely winning, why don’t you give yourself a big pat on the back. And while you are doing that, why don’t you feel for a spine. If you find one, check to see if it feels like linguini. You are a first class idiot sans parents and you know what they are called.
January 14th, 2007 at 11:42 pmOK, You Got One…
Well, whaddya know: the Left finally has an example of conservative media bias that isn’t fabricated or (grossly) misinterpreted. Fox & Friends host Gretchen Carlson called Teddy Kennedy a “hostile enemy right here on the home front.” Althoug…
January 15th, 2007 at 11:20 pmGretchen is right on the money. Ted (the lesser brother) is a traitor.
January 21st, 2007 at 9:28 amHe was a traitor for his actions during Viet Nam and he is a traitor NOW!| All of you liberal whiners , smart asses and “deep thinkers” like David Letterman need an enema (for obvious reasons).
Reading your comments reminds me of the crap you spewed in the
’60’s and ’70’s. You were wrong then and you are wrong now.
You want a slogan? How about,” Liberals and socialists lied and the people in South East Asia Died” Or is the memory of the millions that died in Cambodia, Laos and South Viet Nam too painful. And now you want to do the same in the Middle East!
I thank God for someone like Gretchen to have the balls to call it as she sees it on national TV.
History will prove you whiners to be fools!!!!
I can’t believe the comments on this forum. How very sad that there are so many enemies of our great nation right here at home. You should all be ashamed and none of you deserve to be an American. Our government is fighting an enemy that WANTS YOU DEAD, but you are so ignorant that you see President Bush as the enemy. All of you who give aid and comfort to the enmey, WAKE UP. You are destroying America. Gretchen was right to call that miserable Kennedy an enemy. He, Pelosi, The Clintons, are all despicable. God Bless America, God Bless President Bush, and God Bless Our AMERICAN TROOPS!
January 31st, 2007 at 1:30 amYes G Carlsons remark about Ted Kenndy are the most classless thing to come out of her mouth. What a real right winger, it sure stands out. This gal in my opinion doesnt belong on this show. She is not a good mix and i question her intelligence just by watching and listening to her.
February 12th, 2007 at 10:13 amSophia Jennings: Ted Kennedy is not an “enemy”. He is a politician. If you were not so blinded by nonsense, maybe you would realize this is so.
February 13th, 2007 at 8:33 pm