This morning on Fox News, anchor Gretchen Carlson called Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) a “hostile enemy” of the United States because he has demanded that Congress vote on whether to approve funding for escalation in Iraq. In an interview with White House counselor Dan Bartlett, Carlson compared Kennedy to insurgents and terrorists in Iraq, saying that Kennedy represented the same kind of force “right here on the home front.” Watch it:
Dan Bartlett disagreed, saying that the White House doesn’t “view Ted Kennedy as a hostile enemy” of the United States.
Transcript:
GRETCHEN CARLSON: You talk about the hostile enemy, obviously being Iraq, but hostile enemies right here on the home front. Yesterday Senator Ted Kennedy, proposing that any kind of a troop surge should mean there should be congressional approval of that. A lot of democrats not coming to his side on this. But obviously this is not going to be an easy sell on Capitol Hill, even if it’s not an easy sell to the American Public.
BARTLETT: We don’t view Ted Kennedy as hostile enemy but we do view him to be an open and often critic of the war. He has been from the outset. I don’t think that’s anything new.
Consider the source. That’s all am going to say about the “Fake News” network.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:27 amNow that’s just sad. Dan Bartlett comes off as the sane one.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:27 amWith “friends” like any Kennedy, who needs enemies?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:28 amWith “friends†like any Kennedy, who needs enemies?
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Is Kennedy your friend, or your enemy?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:32 amIsn’t this the one having an affair with Brit Hume? Not that it matters.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:33 amWith idiots like Jason Hendler, who needs trolls?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:34 amHeh. Its funny to watch them go all the way to promote the war agenda.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:35 amTwo words: “Fair & Balanced”
January 10th, 2007 at 10:36 amWhat next? Declaring him an “enemy combatant”?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:39 amI can see calling Kennedy an enemy of the Bush policy, but certainly not a “hostile” one since I haven’t seen any guns drawn and absolutely nothing but an American patriot doing what a representative of the people should be doing.
With “friends†like any Kennedy, who needs enemies? …Comment by Jason M. Hendler
I guess that means we don’t need to create any foreign boogeymen enemies and we can bring our troops home.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:43 amGretchen Carlson’s remark concerning Senator Kennedy is simply emblematic of the topic discussed in Geoffrey Stone’s book Perilous Times- Free Speech in Wartime- From the Sedition Act of 1798 to the War on Terrorism. What this woman has said is what has been uttered since this country has been founded in which any questioning of the government’s policies, much less dissent, has been looked upn as being traitorous. When this country engages in war, people’s emotions run high and as a consequence their brains seem to shut down. She and others at Fox “News” would do well to recall the words, if I am not mistaken, of Howard Zinn, who wisely put forth that “Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.”
January 10th, 2007 at 10:43 amIsn’t Kennedy already on the no-fly list?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:44 amOnce again, it’s not Fox news it’s Fox opinion.
Jason H. Ted Kennedy is holding the President and his administration to the original Resolution. Where are the reports every 60 days? What criteria remain that haven’t been accomplished per the Resolution?
Answer those questions and then we’ll debate that. I’m looking at a copy of the resolution now and would love to read your take on why GW thinks he doesn’t have to be held accountable.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:46 amOn a similar note, Sean Hannity had a segment on Sean Penn and referred to him as an “Enemy of the State 
http://www.crooksandliars.com/ 2007/ 01/ 10/ hannity-sean-penn-is-an-enemy-of-the-state/
They’re just “conditioning” people to get used to these terms for when the become more commonplace in the next few years.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:46 amfox is really ratcheting up that eliminationist rhetoric, aren’t they. at some point, someone is going to be murdered due to this shit.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:47 amAnd this is somehow not true? If so, why do we have a congress in the first place?
A lot implies more than one. How many can you name? Otherwise, this is another lie.
What isn’t an easy sell? Bush’s plan? We already know that’s not an easy sell either to Congress or the American people. But I think she means Kennedy’s plan, in which case, another lie.
Wow, Fox news brainwashing in full spin cycle!
January 10th, 2007 at 10:48 amI’m shocked, Shocked I say that Dan Bartlett didn’t forcefully agree with Faux News!
He’s paying more attention to the American ppublic than they are…
January 10th, 2007 at 10:48 amwhy does fox even have a broadcast license ??
fox should be nuked !!!
January 10th, 2007 at 10:49 amWhat is this Fox News you speak of? Never heard of it much less watched it.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:50 amFOX calls Sen. Ted Kennedy a traitor? Bush and Cheney are war criminals who must be impeached > PERIOD.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:51 amGeez…Fox News have some nerve.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:52 amThere’s a typo in your headline… I believe the correct term is Fox News Wanchor.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:52 amIs it too late to call her a poo poo head?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:55 amIsn’t Kennedy already on the no-fly list?
Comment by Zoo
I heard that a while ago too. Did he manage to get taken off?
January 10th, 2007 at 10:57 am“someone is going to be murdered due to this shit.”
Comment by linda
One never can tell about these things…
…it’d be tragic but…
…maybe humankind will get lucky:
Humus
Handiddy
OLiarly
Krystalball
Limphog
Coldergeist
…for starters…
God knows their hate-filled Karma demands it…
January 10th, 2007 at 10:57 amThis whole ‘plan’ is ’stay the course’.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:58 amJust more of it.
Hey Gretchen,
It will be OK if you just stay out of his car.
On the other hand I doubt that you would be invited.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:58 amWell, I guess Democrats are going to call for a “symbolic” resolution. Oh, that’s exactly what Americans voted for in the last election: symbolism. Well, maybe we could send “symbolic” troops with “symbolic” equipment , and use “symbolic” money to finace them. What a joke.
January 10th, 2007 at 10:59 amIs it too late to call her a poo poo head?
Comment by hellinabucket
It looks like you’ll have to go that route, hellina. ForTruth’s been deleted twice forusing variations of the naughty b-word, and I was deleted for referencing it.
**eyes rolling**
January 10th, 2007 at 11:00 amI have never cared for “Teddy the Swimmer”. He may be an a-hole, but at least he is a consistant a-hole.
why does fox even have a broadcast license ??
fox should be nuked !!!
Comment by outtasight
Because of this wonderful thing called the Constitution. Here’s a concept. If you don’t like it DON’T WATCH IT.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:00 amI heard that a while ago too. Did he manage to get taken off?
Comment by ForTruth
They just make him fly in an airplane now. Heh.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:01 amGretchin is a mean person.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:03 amGretchen wouldn’t know a “hostile enemy” of the United States if one was to erode our Civil Liberties, bankrupt us and our military and sit idly by while we lost an entire American city.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:03 amFlies are on the no-fly list, they are gross.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:03 amBecause of this wonderful thing called the Constitution. Here’s a concept. If you don’t like it DON’T WATCH IT.
Comment by rant_on
Good idea! If you don’t like Ted Kennedy DON’T LISTEN TO HIM.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:05 amYes. Anyone who does not support der chymp’s Unitary Executive claims, is, on face, an enemy of the stadt.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:05 am/sarcasm off
Isn’t that the help O.J. station?
January 10th, 2007 at 11:05 amThey just make him fly in an airplane now. Heh.
Comment by Zoo
Ha!
January 10th, 2007 at 11:06 amBy endorsing the insane idea that it is possible to have a military answer to terrorism, have the Democrats not shot themselves (and the US) in the foot? You cannot say it is a war and then tell the Commander-in-Chief how to fight this war. Congress does not have the mandate to micromanage a military conflict. In that scenario, Kennedy can said to be undermining the Commander-in-Chief at a time of war and is, therefore, an Enemy of the State.
Remember what got us here. We are in this mess because we are fighting the wrong war. We are fighting a war that simply cannot be won. Terrorism is a tactic. Terrorism is not the “enemyâ€. Terrorists, by their very definition, have the constancy of mere shadows and shadows cannot be eliminated irrespective of how many nukes you drop on them.
I am afraid that if the Democrats in Congress are too scared to challenge the very central meme of a military answer to terrorism, Bush can do what he likes, when he likes it, and the US is well and truly screwed.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:07 amBecause of this wonderful thing called the Constitution. Here’s a concept. If you don’t like it DON’T WATCH IT.
Comment by rant_on
The shame sir, is that people will watch faux News and BELIEVE it is true. They go nowhere else for their news. Knowledgeable and thoughtful folks know Fox’s agenda, but others (kool-aid drinkers) just soak it up. They go to that network for their daily ‘talking points’. It is also curious to see the word constitution within your comment. Perhaps you should forward your post to the temporary resident of the white house. I don’t think he knows what that document is all about.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:07 amThe propagandists are growing more desperate and even more outspoken in their outrageous attempts to squelch any and all opposition.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:07 amGretchen bubblehead is an example of Fact-free Fox values: blonde, empty headed, and willing puppet — all bondes should take offense that she perpetuates the stereotype.
rant_on sez:
Not good enough. FOX news, by continuing to act its part as the propaganda arm of this corrupt and criminal administration, is engaging in speech that is endangering the American Public. Free Speech clearly does not protect this sort of lying and hatemongering.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:08 am#11, I think the quote is from T. Jefferson.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:09 amAs the rabid right gets more desperate, they turn up the rhetoric, and they are already way into the absurd. I think we will hear much more and louder, as the mighty wurlitzer is going to get turned up even further. I’ve never seen or heard this Gretchen Carlson, and other than being a blond haired “news anchor,: for faux news, what qualifies her to make such accusations.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:10 amIsn’t this point a really old worn out talking point? The whole “either your with us or against us” or the “You are a traitor if you don’t lick Bush’s boots” stuff. Gretchin is calling 70% of this country hostile enemies. Anyone seeing this Administration for what it is, is a hostile enemie.
Gretchin is a hostile enema.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:10 amJeezus, and I though ED “The Ice Queen” Hill was bad.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:13 amThis announcement should clarify things for all Americans.
Clearly, Fox news is a hostile enemy to the constitution, civil rights, and democracy right here on the home front.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:15 amThere really are women who don’t have that motherly instinct.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:15 amRe: Errol
January 10th, 2007 at 11:17 am“In a democracy, dissent is an act of faith” -William Fulbright
Nice one PLC.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:18 amAbby
Your logic, from premise to post, is so tortured that you must be a Rumsfeld protege.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:18 amI smell a Keith Olbermann Worst Person in the World segment in this.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:19 amGretchen? That’s a fat girl’s name!
January 10th, 2007 at 11:19 amComment by Tom,
I think a copy of the Constitution needs to be sent to the WH, The House of Rep AND the Senate. They ALL need a reminder.
Aside from that, you can’t fix stupid. If people want to depend on Fox or CNN for their news, who are we to stop it? That would be censorship.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:20 amProposed: Solution to Win the Iraq War…
Problem 1: Uniforms
January 10th, 2007 at 11:21 amIt’s very difficult to fight a war when the opposing soldiers don’t wear a uniform to distinguish them from civilians. The Geneva Conventions provide certain protections for “Lawful Combatants,” but such prot…
Isn’t that an accurate way to describe Faux News?!!
January 10th, 2007 at 11:21 amShe was Miss America in 1989, ewww.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:23 amMe like Fox News. Fox News tells me what I need to know.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:24 amSo if the act of dissent makes you a traitor, just what are these “freedoms” we went to war to protect? To wear white after Labor Day? To buy Crest instead of Colgate? Geez, that’s sure worth 3k plus lives.
Are we fighting for a principle, or just cheering on the home team, like this is some kind of football game? If, as our fearless leader proclaims, the enemy attacked us because they “hate our freedom,” who wins when we surrender that very freedom? Duhh! Get a grip, Fox.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:27 amI would pretty much support a Clinton/Kennedy run for the white house, just so I could watch the right wing melt down. Fox News would be a mad house of insane rants 24/7, instead of the 18/7 we have now.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:30 amNew bumper sticker?
Be an Enemy of the “State” - Support Congressional Oversight
January 10th, 2007 at 11:31 amWho hates freedom now?
January 10th, 2007 at 11:31 amI guess 60% of Americans are hostile enemies right here on the home front, too, then.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:31 amNice one PLC.
Comment by ForTruth
Someone didn’t think so - it seems to have disappeared! Ah well, we all know that life is a Badly Informed, Truth Challenged Human condition.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:32 amShe was Miss America in 1989, ewww.
Comment by ForTruth
One can only imagine what her “talent” was…
January 10th, 2007 at 11:33 amShe was Miss America in 1989, ewww.
Comment by ForTruth
Really!!?? I thought they were all for “world peace”?
January 10th, 2007 at 11:33 amI think we know who the enemies are, FOX…
January 10th, 2007 at 11:34 amJeez, PLC even got a post of his deleted. That’s just not right.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:35 amWouldn’t Fox better its ratings by having the Florida Gators tag team this
January 10th, 2007 at 11:37 amcooz live ?
It is time to revoke Faux News’ license to broadcast.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:38 amIt makes you wonder, during all those years she was a news anchor for various network affiliates, if she was just suppressing her right-wing bile and finally found an outlet for it. Or is this an act where she gets paid a huge bonus for being extra nutty and spewing lots of hateful lies?
January 10th, 2007 at 11:39 am“Are you aware of the co-relationship between 666 and FOX news? Virtually the only word in the English language that could be created from these numbers is FOX.
F = 6th letter in the alphabet
O = 15th letter 1+5 = 6
X = 24th letter 2+4 = 6
An incredible co-incidence or by design?”
January 10th, 2007 at 11:39 amSo thats where the vacuous beauty pageant contestants go when they get old.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:40 amSo thats Fox’s new tactic? Hostile Enemy?
January 10th, 2007 at 11:40 amI hope Ted Kennedy sue the network.
Somebody has to.Free Speech goes two ways except if you are not asying what Fox news WANTS YOU TO SAY!
Jeez, PLC even got a post of his deleted. That’s just not right.
Comment by ForTruth
Post 64 got through, with the bold highlights deleted. Maybe if we type backwards (hctib), the filter fairy will be confused. Or Latin (feminae cannis).
January 10th, 2007 at 11:44 amIsn’t Kennedy already on the no-fly list?
Comment by Zoo — January 10, 2007 @ 10:44 am
Yes, but that’s because of weight limitations. ;-)
January 10th, 2007 at 11:44 amI won”t be sure Ted Kennedy is an enemy until Rick Santorum says so. After all, we can surely trust the head of the Americas Enemies program at the Ethics and Foreign Policy Council can’t we?
January 10th, 2007 at 11:45 amFighting back…
I am using the term “Disgraced President”, “Disgraced Aministration”, Disgraced Vice President”, Disgraced Secretary of State and “Disgraced White House”, when referring to President Bush and or the administration.
I belive that it is important to fight the Neo-Con abrasive rhetoric with a subtle rhetoric of our own…. At least our definition falls closer to home and is more credible….
I would suggest to all like minded progressives that they do the same. ie. “Our disgraced President announced a troop surge today…”
Best Regards,
Econolicious
January 10th, 2007 at 11:46 amCan you believe it? Dan Bartlett, White House spokesman, DEFENDED Senator “Breast Stoke”? Will wonders never cease?
Tooodles….
January 10th, 2007 at 11:48 amOK, I give up. I’ll be nice. No more trying to fool the filter. Here goes:
Ms. Gretchen Carlson is a fantastic female FOX.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:49 amLet’s win this war, quick and efficiently, then get our boys (and girls) home!
To do so the military needs to publicly address 3 problems:
1) Define the enemy’s “uniform” (so we know who we’re fighting), then detain EVERYONE that matches that uniform.
2) Declare any building that serves as a command post as a military target (even if it’s a religious building or shrine).
3) The media is reporting on the realities of war, which sway public opinion in a biased manner. This then effects the policy of running the war, which inevitably hurts the war efforts and results in more of our soldiers being injured or killed. Ban the media from the Theater of War (including, but not limited to the country of Iraq), anyone reporter found in the country should be detained under Suspicion of Treason/Sedition, with habeas corpus proceedings delayed until the end of hostilities (read: after the war is over).
No, they’re not politically correct, and yes, I know I’ll get flamed for my opinions. Luckily I live in a country where my freedom of speech and freedom of expression are protected.
- Joe Levi, http://www.JoeLevi.com
January 10th, 2007 at 11:49 amOne can only imagine what her “talent†was…
Comment by Zoo
Good thing I haven’t eaten anything yet.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:49 amWho would have thought that wanting to enforce a system of checks and balances makes one a hostile enemy. Friggin Bush-worshippers. I’m in the wrong business!
January 10th, 2007 at 11:49 amExposing conservatives’ radical rhetoric, such as Carlson’s, is important, which is why Think Progress is important. Exposing such rhetoric is step one, but widening the awareness numerically is also critically important, especially in a democracy, and offering a compelling and widely-available alternative to the rhetoric is the ultimate need.
Millions of Americans have Fox News as virtually their sole source for news. (My parents are an example, actually, and they’re not unintelligent people.) But there is no other option both compelling and widely-available to them (e.g., a 24-hour news network on basic cable that’s actually balanced or even slanted to the left instead of to the [far] right).
January 10th, 2007 at 11:49 amFox News is a hostile enemy of the United States, doing everything they can to make sure more Americans are needlessly killed.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:49 amIn 2009 Gretchen will be out of a job.
see only Bush and his ilk need a boot licker
January 10th, 2007 at 11:50 am[…] This morning on Fox News, anchor Gretchen Carlson called Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) a “hostile enemy†of the United States because he has demanded that Congress vote on whether to approve funding for escalation in Iraq. In an interview with White House counselor Dan Bartlett, Carlson compared Kennedy to insurgents and terrorists in Iraq, saying that Kennedy represented the same kind of force “right here on the home front.†…” - Think Progress […]
January 10th, 2007 at 11:56 am78. I like it. I’m sure you are going to see varients to that. Such as: Ignorant President, Incompetent Administration, Dillusional President, ADD President and so on.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:57 amRachel,
Laura Bush’s front bumper has your name all over it.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:57 amJoe,
January 10th, 2007 at 11:58 amWhat a naive, fool you are. In fact, you’re a top contender for a nomination in Shrub’s administration with such a childish, 3 step suggestion!
Next time, try comedy, I think it suits you best.
FOX still ‘Swiftboating…..’
January 10th, 2007 at 11:59 amThe Hostile Enemies are the Administration, W., the Cardiac Kid, Rummy and Rice and all their supporters and co-conspirators, fellow travelers, Fox “News” etc. who have acted to undermine our economic and military security and destabilized a good part of the planet.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:01 pmThese people should all be in prison.
This war was not a mistake that in hindsight or any other way can be justified. It was and continues to be a subversive misadventure which has cost us billions of dollars and needlessly and pointlessly sacrificed thousands of American lives.
Joe, why don’t we just enlist all US Citizens (big time draft). Give them all uniforms and then start marching on all other countries? Anyone that doesn’t look like us then “Off with their head!!!”
Don’t know how much it will cost or if it’s even morally correct but why not.
How about not.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:04 pmWho would have thought that a United States Senator would be referred to as a hostile enemy for DOING HIS JOB?
Fox News is a disgrace and should be taken off the air…it’s run by a non-American, is it not? Who are they really working for?
January 10th, 2007 at 12:04 pmComment by rachel b — January 10, 2007 @ 11:54 am
Yesterday, rachel b tested to see if her post would get through by posting “Titty Titty“, then “Test Test”. Nice, rachel.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:04 pmIseFire,
January 10th, 2007 at 12:04 pmSure, my mom’s intelligent too, but she still watches Fox too much, therefore, she’s an idiot. See? If they can’t see the bullsh*t on Fox, then they aren’t too bright…Like my poor old mom.
What disturbs me with this current style of rhetoric is that the the wingnut loner with a gun thinks they’re talking to them and might act on it. This type of Hate Speech from a public forum needs to stop now!
January 10th, 2007 at 12:05 pmWow, it’s amazing to watch Fox News push the “Neocon” agenda. It just shows how very not democratic Amerikans can be when they oppose senators actually wanting Congress to have anything to do with our troops, and our nations foreign policy. Viva la dictator! I think some people just need to be ruled absolutely.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:07 pmMarie at #43
This seems to be an urbanand/or historical myth, that the quote that I cited at #11 was originally said by Thomas Jefferson but it was in fact first said by Howard Zinn in an interview conducted by TomPaine.com in May of 2004. I do believe that Jefferson would certainly have shared the same sentiments that Howard Zinn had put forth, that one does not have to support the government, despite what Fox “News” may believe, in order to be a patriot to one’s country.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:07 pmWell, on the bright side, at least she didn’t call him a “drunken, can’t-drive-across-a-bridge hostile enemy.”
Baby steps, folks …. baby steps.
;-)
January 10th, 2007 at 12:08 pmFiscal Conservatives, oh Fiscal Conservatives, where are thee? I miss thee so… At least us “libs” could debate you on actual issues instead of just being labeled unpatriotic, terrorist, or anti-american…
January 10th, 2007 at 12:10 pmI like the boycott idea. I also think that the anchor should be fired or at least be forced to make a public, on-air apology. Unfortunatley, there’s little else that can be done by the government without raising thorny First Amendment issues–on both a legal and policy basis.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:12 pmPerhaps we should just end this once and for all.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:13 pmAll the Red Staters who want a dictator can secede from the union, and W can be their god/emperor.
The rest of us blue staters can get our democratic republic back.
How come Geraldo Rivers has not threatened to turn Senator Kennedy into a pizza yet?
January 10th, 2007 at 12:14 pm[…] Link (Carlson is a FOX News anchor, Bartlett is a White House counselor): GRETCHEN CARLSON: You talk about the hostile enemy, obviously being Iraq, but hostile enemies right here on the home front. Yesterday Senator Ted Kennedy, proposing that any kind of a troop surge should mean there should be congressional approval of that. A lot of democrats not coming to his side on this. But obviously this is not going to be an easy sell on Capitol Hill, even if it’s not an easy sell to the American Public. […]
January 10th, 2007 at 12:15 pmFox news is so easy to manipulate. This is how you do it: They ask, pretty often to e-mail them your points of view. Well, we all no they will only read the ones the like (or not dislike). But, they are very vain. They love it to read questions, remarks from people abroad. It gives the network a global image. Look at us, even people from ….. watch us. I managed to get my remark on the air. 3 times! On of of them was are we chasing the right people. My answer was (and this was read in fox news):
No, i dont think we are chasing the right people. We should be chasing this Osama Bin Laden! WE ARE NOT!
Ok, i realise, this is not world shocking, but at least it makes it on the air, to fox news viewers. And that is probably the most extreme view they ever heart on Fox.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:16 pmDear Gretchen;
In the words of Ari Fleischer:
“… all Americans… need to watch what they say, watch what they do.”
Have a nice day…
January 10th, 2007 at 12:17 pmThe real enemy of the United States is false “news programs” that load trusting viewers up with propaganda from the White House Cabal.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:17 pmYou really want them to be in control of even half of the USA’s military and nuclear arsenal? The world would be completely doomed. It’s us that is keeping them at bay long enough to not blow up the world!
January 10th, 2007 at 12:18 pmJust keep in mind the hellstorm you’d have unleashed in the year after Sept. 11 had you dared to criticize President Bush on any matter at all. Not only would it be a “personal attack” — even if it was a mere criticism of strategy or policy — but you were also “Hating America First”(tm) and hurting our brave soldiers by undermining their commander-in-chief.
Now vapid blonde haircuts in a chanel suits are emboldened to call a duly-elected U.S. Senator a “hostile enemy” of the U.S. during what is ostensibly a straight news segment.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:20 pm“Hostile enemy” ?
As distinguished from what…a “Friendly Enemy”? A “Cordial Enemy”?
Fox News: The Benthic Network, featuring hysterical ranting from biased “Fair and Balanced” anchors.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:21 pmFox news is biased, we all know that by now.
Trying to take the high road though, kudos to Bartlett for not echoing Carlson’s ridiculous construct.
Even though Bush’s policies have proven disastrous on a variety of fronts, I doubt that the left and sceptical moderates would loathe this administration even a fraction of what is the current sentiment if they would just stick to highlighting the percieved strengths and benefits of their policies and ideas (however ludicrous they may be) and not engaging in ad hominem B.S. like Fox. Getting personal hurts one’s cause over the long term and leaves movements vacuous and lacking in meaningful ideas.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:22 pm[…] so It comes as no surprise that Ted Kennedy has finally been revealed to be hostile enemy. Permalink| […]
January 10th, 2007 at 12:23 pmwrite letters to their advertisers, you won’t change fox but you can influence those that pay their salaries.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:26 pm#110 - Hmm. I guess that we’d have to keep the keys to the arsenal as well. Oh, well, I knew it was just wishful thinking!
January 10th, 2007 at 12:29 pm#110 - On second thought, why don’t we relocate them to Iraq to replace the 12% of the population that’s evacuated our man made hell…
January 10th, 2007 at 12:30 pm#100 erroll
January 10th, 2007 at 12:31 pmRegardless of the source - the quote remains quotable and applicable, unless one is a Fox, fact-free propagandist. :)
Like they say Fox News Far from balanced….opps I mean Fair and Balanced
January 10th, 2007 at 12:33 pmTalk about a “Hostile Enemy” not only in the Democratic party, but right here in the Rupublican Administration. Dan Bartlett actually dared to mildly disagree with Fox New’s continuing attempt to insinuate Senator Kennedy into retirement in the Guantinimo Bay Not So Shady Acres Home for Inconvenient Opponants.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:34 pmTo Jason Hendler:
With Friends like Bush, who needs enemas?
January 10th, 2007 at 12:35 pmIf Kennedy is a “hostile enemy” for opposing sending more troops in harm’s way in a futile cause, then I guess the vast majority of Americans are “hostile enemies” of America. Huh, Fox? Or maybe they actually think any opposition to Bush is treason. Yeah, we fought a revolution to get rid of a king George, but Fox wants to install our very own new King George, and this one battier than the one we got rid of!
January 10th, 2007 at 12:39 pmThis is an FCC matter
Such utterances are as obscene as any of the deadly words the FCC levies fines for. These are our airways, and the FCC should investigate such hate speech on our airwaves, and take appropriate action. Hefty fines won’t by themselves eliminate the problem, but WILL have the salient effect of drawing wider attention to Fox’s continuing abuses. Concurrently, an investigation under RICO could provide additional insights into a continuing pattern of lies and subversive activities.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:40 pm#122
January 10th, 2007 at 12:40 pmCan I quote you?
Terrorists love to see ignorant fools like Carlson dividing Americans. Americans calling each other terrorist sympathizers is exactly the kind of thing the real terrorists love to see. It could be argued that Fox News has done more to help terrorists than anyone else in America thanks to their daily rants against all things Democratic that do nothing but divide us.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:42 pmThis is our money. We need to be telling our representatives that we would rather spend the money on saving millions of lives by putting an end to global hunger. According to the Borgen project this amount is much less than we have spent in Iraq already, and that amount is a mere $19 billion. Wouldn’t you rather see your money go towards saving lives!
January 10th, 2007 at 12:43 pmGee, whoever thought that a bunch of American superpatriots, wearing their little American flag lapel pins and all, would be using the airwaves in a manner reminiscent of the Red Guard?
Because really, what do we do with “hostile enemies”? We attack them and kill them! Isn’t that the “dog whistle” to the Fox News Faithful, here? Is this even the first time that extremists on the right have advocated killing their Leftist “enemies”?
Enough! Fox News and Newscorp belong to the same parent company that’s the licensee of a large group of major market television stations. Time to pull their licenses.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:44 pmSen. Edward Kennedy Is A Patriot!
10th of January 2007
by Jay Randal
The American people demand that Iraq debacle ends, but the warmongering Bush Regime wants to escalate the conflict, so Iraq policy causes upheaval in the US.
Sen. Edward Kennedy has dared to oppose escalation of the misadventure in Iraq, so FOX News whores call him a traitor, but he is a patriot to oppose Iraq fiasco.
Those who do nothing to end the Iraq quagmire, in the Congress, are accomplices to war crimes perpetrated by President George W. Bush and VP Dick Cheney.
The US Constitution clearly proclaims the Legislative branch of the government has the power of the purse to end any foreign ventures by the Executive branch.
President Bush is the Commander in Chief of the US military, but NOT the dictatorial despot of our nation, so the Congress must cut off the funding for Iraq war.
We the people call upon the House and Senate members to end the Iraq mistake, and to bring the troops home ASAP, to inform Bush he has abused the presidency.
( Jay Randal, political activist and writer in Georgia, USA.)
January 10th, 2007 at 12:47 pmFinally the truth
January 10th, 2007 at 12:47 pmReally, really dumb. But not unexpected.
Mike Judge’s ‘Idiocracy’ (out on DVD) has a great Fox joke.
See it here.
Yeah, it’s a YouTube link.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:49 pmDemocrats should organize a national boycott of Fox Cable News until they apologize to Senator Kennedy. I happen to know Senator Kennedy - he’s my Senator - and he has more Patriotism in his little finger than that Bitch that demonized him.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:50 pmIf you don’t like it DON’T WATCH IT.
Comment by rant_on
Thanks, I don’t. Faux is blocked on my tv.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:50 pmHey #25 Big Papa DipSh!t, you put together a conservative hit list then say
“their hate-filled Karma ” - What a complete hypocrite you are.
ROTFL
How do you spout that garbage and look in the mirror
ROTFL
January 10th, 2007 at 12:50 pmEd,
I already boycott Faux news, so it would change very little. It isn’t even a boycott, I just don’t watch them.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:52 pmKennedy is a scumbag. I would not hire him to clean my toilet much less vote for him.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:52 pmYou people are classic. These are the Democrats who voted for the war (before they decided maybe they shouldn’t have) then decide not to fund the war they voted for? Then they want to pull out, call it a loss and blame someone else for losing the war.
ROTFL
Ted is a drunken murderer and an enemy of America and freedom. Try and use your “Constitutional Right†to get a gun in his state. Funny thing is Ted’s car killed more people than my gun.
ROTFL
January 10th, 2007 at 12:55 pmMarie at 119
I certainly concur. Those on Fox “News” would do well to follow the words of a bumper sticker that is on my car and that should be heeded by everyone in this country, including those in the military and the government: “Freedom of Speech Means the Freedom to Disagree.”
January 10th, 2007 at 12:56 pmWhat else would we expect from FAUX NEWS, that broadcasts dircectly from the west wing of the White House?
January 10th, 2007 at 12:57 pmSimple. Just introduce a bill in Congress that strips Fox News Coipr of all of its broqadcast and cable licenses in the United States.
If they refuse to act responsibly, they should be trreated accordingly.
January 10th, 2007 at 12:59 pmFunny thing is Laura’s car killed more people than my gun.
ROTFL
Comment by Happy Guy — January 10, 2007 @ 12:55 pm
There, fixed your typo.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:03 pmFunny thing is Ted’s car killed more people than my gun.
Comment by Happy Guy
No big surprise there. Your “gun” hasn’t fired a shot in years.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:07 pm“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.â€
–Theodore Roosevelt
January 10th, 2007 at 1:08 pmGreat, now we can send Kennedy to a GTMO because he is an enemy combatant. Finally, we can torture him, and it’s totally legal…thanks to our new torture legislation.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:09 pmNote that the surge is timed to coincide with big oil companies landing 30-year contracts to extract as much Iraqi oil as possible.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:09 pmIraq and Afganistan Veterans of America (IAVA) gives Ted Kennedy a “B+” for his voting record supporting the troops. Dennis Hastert, evidently not deemed an enemy by FOX, gets a “D-”. And, Happy Guy, nobody voted “for the war.” Anyone who voted for the war authorization gave the president the go ahead if he went back to the UN for another resolution and came back every 60 days to update Congress on new evidence of threats to our security. Bush never did that. One more thing: Kennedy didn’t vote for the authorization anyway so get your facts straight.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:09 pmPlease use the correct spelling. It is Faux News, not Fox. Your cooperation is appreciated. Now, back to your regularly-scheduled comments board.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:14 pmHappy Gay,
Remember now,
ROTFL stands for
Really Out To F*cking Lunch
Keep using it; it describes you perfectly
January 10th, 2007 at 1:15 pmHappy Guy sez:
You know, Happy Guy, this whole ‘Dems voted for the war’ canard you keep spouting is seriously old.
First of all, Dems voted for the invasion based upon misleading intelligence reports…reports the administration knew full well were misleading, because they requested them that way.
Second, even if the Dems did know the real score in Iraq (which they didn’t, courtesy of this criminal administration), and voted to invade anyway, isn’t is conceivable that these same members of Congress could recognize the error of their ways, and act to curtail the daily death and destruction?
(By the way, it’s not a war…war was never declared.)
January 10th, 2007 at 1:16 pmShrill Right Wing Blonde Update: Gretchen Carlson…
Apparently Edward Kennedy is a hostile e…
January 10th, 2007 at 1:19 pmThey do like to strike at Ted Kennedy. The O’Brien team on CNN this morning gave him a small shot too. They were discussing the photo of Obama swimming, thus shirtless. Ohhs & ahhs all around, then one of them (Soledad, I think) suggested that maybe all members of Congress should appear shirtless. Miles said it was a bad idea; just think of Ted Kennedy, he said. I, on the other hand, was thinking of Denny Hastert.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:24 pmCrappy Spy #134
That’s no “hit-list”…
…that’s a Patriot Act guide to restoring American unity, humanity, and credibility through “accountability”…
…one must be “human” to be “hit”…
…protozoa don’t qualify…
…And I’m no hypocrite…
…I’d be the first to admit that your kind has seriously “stained” my Karma too…
January 10th, 2007 at 1:26 pm#142…ROTFLMAO!!!
January 10th, 2007 at 1:27 pmWow, hit a lot of nerves with one shot.
#141 – Just like a good little liberal. Change the topic when faced with a fact.
#142 – Whenever you have to make up a name to hide who you are I WIN. I got under your skin and I WON !!!!
#144 – I would love to see Ted in GITMO. But he weighs enough as it is. But if you do don’t forget to piss on his Koran
#148 – Your right – Ted Kennedy ROTFL (Really Out To F*cking Lunch) Thanks, I’ll use that. LOL
#149 – Old but true. And the truth hurts.
ROTFL – To All
January 10th, 2007 at 1:29 pm#145 - Got to wonder how many of these newly inserted 21,000+ troops will be “securing” the oil pipeline infrastructure…?
January 10th, 2007 at 1:31 pmIs it possible that Fox is out doing even the white house in frothing at the mouth?
I just dont understand how they could not feel stupid if they know anything about history and human nature. Then again they have proven time and time again they know nothing of history yet are great experts on the subject in their own minds.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:34 pmSimple. Just introduce a bill in Congress that strips Fox News Coipr of all of its broqadcast and cable licenses in the United States.
If they refuse to act responsibly, they should be trreated accordingly.
Comment by Hesiod
Censorship at it’s finest. If you don’t agree with the message, eliminate it.
Wait…
Isn’t that the same thing you are all against?
This is an FCC matter
Comment by Coronadoman
How so? What Broadcast rules have been broken?
January 10th, 2007 at 1:34 pmAnd it keeps going
#151 – So, you like freedom of speech but want to silence FOX news? Hypocrite! So what do you like? Al Jezera? You and Ted can have a beer watch that together, just don’t drive with him – ROTFL
#153 – Avoid again you hypocrite. Your Karma is like Ted Kennedy, stained everywhere. Admit it, I pointed out your hypocracy and just like the moon-bat mantra “Don’t admit, change the topic†- ROTFL
January 10th, 2007 at 1:36 pmHappy Guy, stop being purposefully intellectually dishonest. It’s already been proven that Congress didn’t have the same intelligence as the President had. It’s already been reported in the press that the intelligence was faulty. So the only conclusion you can come to is that they were lied to. Who doesn’t know the Bush administration didn’t want to go into Iraq before he even took office? Everyone knows now.
RYNOMT
Who has cut funding for the war? Who’s talking about pulling out? No one, they’re talking about redeployment. Keep hittin’ the right agenda talking points, I’m suprised you didn’t say we want to “cut & run”. It must’ve hurt to not include it.
RYNOMT
Regarding your line of “blaming someone else for the loss…” is pure unadulterated bs. They know who is to blame for everything from starting the war, to the amount of troops sent in, the fact that they didn’t secure the borders, have been unable to get services to the people like, power, water and safety, billions in no bid contracts, billions missing from said contracts…Shall I go on? You’re a liar and a bad one at that, like no one here knows wtf they are talking about. You insult our intelligence like we’re Hannity and Rush ditto heads, and then to get off subject you bring up the only thing Kennedy has ever done wrong that happened almost 40 years ago. That’d be like me bringing up the fact that Bush was a known coke head, alchy, SEC criminal, destroyer of companies and a mass murderer. Oh and that the first robot killed someone with her car in a drunk driving accident too. But I don’t because there’s plenty to fault the Chimper for. You on the other hand should know better.
RYNOMT
January 10th, 2007 at 1:37 pmHappy Guy sez:
WRONG, JACKASS Did you even bother to read my post?
What is the matter with you?
Can you respond and actually try to address the points I raised this time around? If not, don’t bother.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:37 pmWhy do I think “Poor mans Nancy Grace” when I look at this faux skank?
January 10th, 2007 at 1:41 pmIf anyone can tell me the stock symbol for the straw man factory where Delerious Boy buys his straw men from, I’ve got a couple of bucks to invest…
January 10th, 2007 at 1:41 pmHappy Gay is not here to argue or present a cogent argument. He is here to engage in his childlike need to be annoying. He’s like a toddler looking for attention. I always make at least one attempt to engage and a number of us have tried. I suggest we ignore Happy Gay.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:42 pm#51 PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC): Tortured logic? Maybe. ESL’s a bitch but do you refute my point about the impossibility of an actual conventional war on terror? If the Democrats attack and destroy that stupid meme (it’s not that difficult) Lil Bush is no longer a “war President” with war powers.
If the Dems would do that, we can win this country back and begin to make progress in this war-on-terror. Who knows, we might even regain some of our lost credibility internationally.
Rumsfeld protege? Goodness gracious me! Come on now. No need to be abusive.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:42 pmHow so? What Broadcast rules have been broken?
Comment by robert
You are right they have broken none… they are about one step away from it though… they are quite close to suggesting someone should take care of that enemy of the state Kennedy … and then that is just like what happened in Rwanda when the media was used to give lists of names of people that were enemies …and they suggenly showed up dead the next day… same sort of thing happened in Nazi Germany… is the right going to stop itself before going over that cliff? Some of the bloggers on the right have already gone over this cliff… is Fox next? They keep hovering around the edge…we will see.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:42 pmSimple. Just introduce a bill in Congress that strips Fox News Coipr of all of its broqadcast and cable licenses in the United States.
If they refuse to act responsibly, they should be trreated accordingly.
Comment by Hesiod
Censorship at it’s finest. If you don’t agree with the message, eliminate it.
Sounds about right. And accusing a sitting US SEnator of treason because he simply wants Congress to exercise its constitutional oversight responsibilities is libel, and unprotected speech.
So, yanks those licenses.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:45 pmObviously, Gretchen wants a promotion.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:46 pmwhy does fox even have a broadcast license ??
fox should be nuked !!!
Comment by outtasight
Because of this wonderful thing called the Constitution. Here’s a concept. If you don’t like it DON’T WATCH IT.
Comment by rant_on — January 10, 2007 @ 11:00 am
Rant_On is ingoring the concepts of screaming “Fire” in a crowded theater and “Your right to swing your arm ends when it hits my nose.”
Fox has been screaming “Fire” for 12 (at least) years, and they continuously assault truly patriotic Americans every day by forwarding the Evango-Christo-NeoCon-Republican agenda. Fox is a tool being used in the destruction of America and the world… And strangely, it’s not even owned by an American. What does it benefit Rupert Murdock to murder the American Democratic Republic? Sure Fox makes money (go figure!), but whose pocket is Murdock REALLY in??
January 10th, 2007 at 1:47 pmRupert Murdoch, Roger Ailes and that stupid blonde bimbo have every right to call Ted Kennedy a traitor for no good reason. They do not, however, have the right to do it from a cable news outlet to millions of people.
So, strip Fox of its broadcast licenses unless they reform thei irreponsible behavior. If those buffoons still want to shout and complain about Ted Kennedy or anybody else, thay can do it while standing on a milk carton in Central Park with the rest of the lunatics and mental patients.
January 10th, 2007 at 1:48 pmWhy do I think “Poor mans Nancy Grace†when I look at this faux skank?
Comment by Vance — January 10, 2007 @ 1:41 pm
I thought that Nancy Grace already was the poor man’s Nancy Grace. Would that make Ms. Carlson the homeless man’s Nancy Grace?
January 10th, 2007 at 1:52 pmRepublicans like fantasy (often involving underage boys or macho posturing to deter others from noticing the urine stains in their pants).
Democrats prefer to deal with reality.
Any questions?
You’ll have to exuse me. I need to do some macho posturing by shooting ducks that have had their wittle webbed feet nailed to the ground. Oh wait a sec…I’m not going to shoot a duck. That’s what everyone’s going to yell when I pick up the shotgun!
January 10th, 2007 at 1:55 pm“Sounds about right. And accusing a sitting US SEnator of treason because he simply wants Congress to exercise its constitutional oversight responsibilities is libel, and unprotected speech.
So, yanks those licenses.
Comment by Hesiod”
I though that libel ment that she was trying to state it as fact, not opinion. Commentators offer opinion. Journalists are supposed to handle the facts.
So, those that say that Bush is an enemy of the state and trying to establish a dictatorship should also be held accountable for libel? The sword swings both ways.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:00 pmBluedog49 #164
…of course you’re right…
…right wing Bushite home-schooled-fools have a limited vocabulary and even LESS critical thinking skills…
…think of our engaging inbred imbeciles like robert and Crappy Spy (aka Happy Guy)…
…like you would kids poking a stick into a dead snake…
…it’s practically the same thing…
sorry, (speaking for myself) I just couldn’t resist…
January 10th, 2007 at 2:06 pmWho cares? She’s a hottie!
January 10th, 2007 at 2:07 pmrobert sez:
It’s not libel if it’s true. There’s a wealth of corroborating evidence for the above statement.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:08 pmYou have to admit Robert, there is a big difference between say some anonymous person on a blog saying Bush is a traitor, and Katie Couric stating the same thing on her nightly news show.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:09 pmTed Kennedy and George Bush are public figures, so there will be no “libel” judgments either way.
The issue is that networks use public airwaves and natural monopoly cables to spread a political message. Networks are supposed to provide news information as a public service because we give them free access to the public air and do not enforce anti-trust legislation on their natural monopoly cables. I hope Democrats in congress look into this.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:09 pm[…] Go here to view clip. […]
January 10th, 2007 at 2:09 pm…like you would kids poking a stick into a dead snake…Comment by big papa —
January 10th, 2007 at 2:11 pmOr perhaps sticking firecrackers up a froggy ass?
165 Abby
I apologize for my comment. I re-read your post. Initially, your first paragraph looked to me like a typical troll blaming the Democrats and I was in “troll-smashing” mode at the time.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:13 pmComment by robert — January 10, 2007 @ 2:00 pm
Robert, she’s on Fox NEWS, not Fox & Friends. She’s not supposed to offer opinion. This is what Bob Kohn was bitching about on Scarborough the other night, in his diatribe against NBC (he’s an O’Reilly flunky). Yeah, it works both ways.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:13 pmSo, what’s the problem? She hit the nail on the head. That’s why I watch Fox News!
January 10th, 2007 at 2:14 pm[…] Fox News Anchor Calls Ted Kennedy A ‘Hostile Enemy Right Here On The Home Front’ This morning on Fox News, anchor Gretchen Carlson called Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) a “hostile enemy” of the United States because he has demanded that Congress vote on whether to approve funding for escalation in Iraq. In an interview with White House counselor Dan Bartlett, Carlson compared Kennedy to insurgents and terrorists in Iraq, saying that Kennedy represented the same kind of force “right here on the home front.” Dan Bartlett disagreed, saying that the White House doesn’t “view Ted Kennedy as a hostile enemy” of the United States. Transcript: GRETCHEN CARLSON: You talk about the hostile enemy, obviously being Iraq, but hostile enemies right here on the home front. Yesterday Senator Ted Kennedy, proposing that any kind of a troop surge should mean there should be congressional approval of that. A lot of democrats not coming to his side on this. But obviously this is not going to be an easy sell on Capitol Hill, even if it’s not an easy sell to the American Public. BARTLETT: We don’t view Ted Kennedy as hostile enemy but we do view him to be an open and often critic of the war. He has been from the outset. I don’t think that’s anything new. Here’s where you can view the interview: Think Progress » Fox News Anchor Calls Ted Kennedy A ‘Hostile Enemy Right Here On The Home Front’ I am very proud of Dan Bartlett for his response. Gretchen sounds like a real professional rep